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March 2, 2026
U.S.-China And The Four Week Time-frame For The War On Iran

The war on Iran is waging on – and will continue do to so for a while. Tehran gets bombed to smithereens, the hydrocarbon infrastructure in the Gulf is shutting down or gets damaged, the economic pressure on the global economy is starting to show.

Neither effect answers the question of why the U.S. did decide to attack Iran. U.S. President Trump has give about a dozen different reasons none of which holds up to scrutiny. Iran wasn’t making nukes, didn’t build intercontinental missiles and had no intend to attack anyone. Its internal situation was and is stable.

Since the mid 1980s the Zionists have tried to push the U.S. into war with Iran. All the time the U.S. did not submit to their pressure for good reasons. To suggest that this pressure is now at the root of the conflict is too perfunctory. As are suggestions that the current Russiagate scandal, aka the Epstein files, has anything to do with it.

The empire is not a joke. It acts for strategic reasons.

One has to zoom out from those narrow views to make sense. Andrew Korybko is onto something when he claims that this campaign is Part Of Trump’s Grand Strategy Against China:

The goal is to obtain proxy control over Iran’s enormous oil and gas reserves so that they can be weaponized as leverage against China for coercing it into a lopsided trade deal that would derail its superpower rise and therefore restore US-led unipolarity.

That’s the brainchild of Under Secretary of War for Policy Elbridge Colby, and it was expanded on in this analysis here from early January. As was written, “US influence over Venezuela’s and possibly soon Iran’s and Nigeria’s energy exports and trade ties with China could be weaponized via threats of curtailment or cut-offs in parallel with pressure upon its Gulf allies to do the same in pursuit of this goal”, which is to coerce China into indefinite junior partnership status vis-à-vis the US through a lopsided trade deal.

China is well aware of that the U.S. strategy is aimed against it. It is one reason why it is giving technical and military support to Iran, mostly in the form of intelligence, while avoiding to get directly involved in the conflict:

Intelligence reports on February 27, 2026, indicated that China sent “loitering munitions” (kamikaze drones) and air defense systems to Iran shortly before the attack began. Along with China supplying Iran with missile programs, negotiations continued between Beijing and Tehran to supply Iran with CM-302 supersonic anti-ship missiles, a technology that is difficult to intercept and is considered a game-changer in the region. Along with providing cybersecurity to Iran, China began in January 2026 a strategy to support Iranian digital sovereignty by replacing Western software with closed Chinese systems to protect against Israeli and American cyberattacks. With China rebuilding Iran’s missile capabilities, China contributed to compensating for Iran’s weapons losses following the 2025 attacks, including the provision of advanced ballistic missiles.

A loss of Iran would cause significant damage for China’s energy position as its dependence on Gulf sources for oil and gas is still significant. It has been hedging that position by making new energy deals with Russia:

On the one hand, China takes into account the increased regional risks in West Asia. According to some reports, the rise of Beijing’s interest in [the Power of Siberia Pipeline 2] was triggered by the Iran–Israel war in June. As concerns arose about the reliability of energy supplies from Gulf Arab states, Beijing decided to consider alternatives—a step that fits into its overall strategy of minimizing external risks to energy security.

On the other hand, as an economic confrontation with the US is unfolding, China seeks less dependence on hydrocarbon supplies from close partners of Washington while also actively reducing oil and gas imports from American suppliers. In this regard, expanded purchases of Russian energy is a useful hedging strategy.

In light of this it is interesting that Trump today set the length for his war on Iran to four weeks:

“We’re already substantially ahead out of our time projections,” Trump said. “But whatever the time is, it’s okay. Whatever it takes…Right from the beginning we projected four to five weeks, but we have the capability to go far longer than that.”

Trump will visit China four weeks from now – from March 31 to April 2. His position towards China was weakened when the Supreme Court recently buried his tariff edicts. Being bogged down in Iran would further weaken his position.

But coming to China while having won concessions from Iran would be bonus for Trump. He could claim that the U.S. is able to forcibly change governments, in Iran and Venezuela, who supply energy to Beijing. A victory in Iran would put Trump into a good negotiation positions.

China, on the other side, will want to avoid a loss of Iran. Its interest is to see the U.S. bogged down in the Middle East and with its arsenals empty. Everyone and everything that helps to that will be in Beijing’s favor.

The time horizon of four week thus matters. It is the time frame in which Trump has to win. It is the time frame which Iran needs to sustain to come out as a (nominal) winner.

The four weeks are to be kept in mind when and analyzing the procession of this uneven fight.

Comments

this is too convoluted – I call bullshit on it.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 18:42 utc | 1

Four weeks my butt – time for the us of a to depart the middle east.  
China doesn’t “fall” for this sort of bs.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 18:42 utc | 2

Netanyahu has locked down independent social media from Israel. What little real news is getting out, indicstes real damage being accomplished.  Much worse than june 2025.
 
4 weeks ? Wait after 4 years. 
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Mar 2 2026 18:49 utc | 3

“China refutes reports of selling CM-302 supersonic missiles to Iran” https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/china-denies-deal-sell-supersonic-anti-ship-missiles-iran-126030200987_1.htm

Posted by: John V. Doe | Mar 2 2026 18:49 utc | 4

Hadn’t read the article you posted, but nice to see I wasn’t alone when i posted this in the open thread almost an hour ago…
 

Inconvenient Truth of the day. If there was no such place as “Israel” this attack on Iran wouldn’t be happening.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 2 2026 17:37 utc | 150 
What if it is not the truth, what if (as in Venezuela) the only objective is to control , or at least deny , cheap oil to china? 
israel may have an agenda and us another… a “one-two” punch against china and then… 
what if then us offered RF Eastern Europe (and even a say on western continental) , for joining the us on a “energy board” that decides who gets what at what price… 
not saying it is so, not saying RF would accept, just discussing a scenario that could neuter china without a direct blockade , let alone open conflict… 
 
Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2026 18:00 utc | 152
 
Maybe the end of march visit is only the first part of the strategy…

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2026 18:52 utc | 5

Now they are saying possible boots on the ground. Four weeks is very optimistic! 

Posted by: Nomad | Mar 2 2026 18:53 utc | 6

I too call bullshit on this one, they thought it would be over in 24-48 hours. No way will Israel win this one, the population will be forced to flee and let’s face it, who will accept them?

Posted by: PajamaPantz | Mar 2 2026 18:53 utc | 7

Equating the “Russiagate” hoax with the Epstein Files is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on here, and that’s saying something after your defence of Epstein. 
Doubling down for pedophiles is not a good look. 

Posted by: Facekicker | Mar 2 2026 18:54 utc | 8

China should immediately fake an invasion of Taiwan. Send a vast naval fleet and possibly even implement a blockade. That would get the Americans’ attention really quick. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 18:56 utc | 9

China should immediately fake an invasion of Taiwan. Send a vast naval fleet and possibly even implement a blockade. That would get the Americans’ attention really quick. 
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 18:56 utc | 9
 
Will call this the “I told you so on open thread” thread… but not right now , they should wait a while
 

In the RIP thread I mentioned that just shy of two weeks will be critical for the us, now in the open thread I’d say that if things are still hot then, then a window of opportunity arises for china to flexc its muscle, local us forces will be mainly spent (not transferable to other theaters) and the us will probably need to bring forces from elsewhere. 
Which would the us prefer to lose? 
 
Posted by: Newbie | Mar 1 2026 22:25 utc | 44

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2026 18:58 utc | 10

Everything hinges on whether the US/Israel can destroy Iranian ballistic capability before running out of their own anti-air missiles. If they can do this and establish air superiority over Iran, they will attempt to Gazafy the entire country–or at least all of its population centers. If they succeed at this, then it is very likely this could be over in less than four weeks. 
What is CRUCIAL for Iran is to be able to employ the selective use of its own anti-air defenses to keep US/Israel fixed wing aircraft at bay, while also keeping up the pace of its own ballistic launches. If Iran can force US/Israel to use up its anti-air munitions, and then subject both US bases and Tel Aviv to massive strikes, then it has a chance. I think this is its only chance. 

Posted by: WJ | Mar 2 2026 19:00 utc | 11

I don’t think anyone “serious” has said that Operation Epstein Fury is strictly about Epstein, and it’s quite disingenuous to equate Pedogate to Russiagate. One is real, the other was entirely fake. 
 
Of course the US wants to be able to leverage energy resources against China and there is a good reason why the illegal Venezuela operation preceded the illegal Iran operation. 
 
China need to step up here and do more than issue sternly worded proclamations at the UN. They need to exert major economic pressure on the US and EU, stop doing business with Isn’tReal, and implement a harsh blockade on Taiwan, at least for important items like chips being shipped to the US and EU. 
 
But yes, the grand strategy laid out by Wesley Clark all those years ago “7 countries in 7 years” has taken a lot longer than they wanted, but it’s still moving along – although not with the “success” of implementing “democratic” and stable governments in the countries they’ve illegally laid siege to and invaded. The Epstein thing just happened to bite Trump and a large faction of the elites right in the ass and the distraction element of the attack on Iran cannot simply be waved away with the motion of your hand. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:01 utc | 12

Imagine how humiliating it must be for US soldiers to be shuffled in/out of hotels and basements (while getting the evil eye from everyone they see)

Posted by: MarkGilmore | Mar 2 2026 19:02 utc | 13

I suspect all will be revealed before the week is out. Can’t speculate but it doesn’t look good for the dreidel twirlers. 

Posted by: Gaultless | Mar 2 2026 19:03 utc | 14

The war has a dual function: 1) Israel’s interest in destroying Iran 2) the US interest in blocking China’s energy supply.

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 2 2026 19:03 utc | 15

In response to #12 I share this link:
https://no01.substack.com/cp/185980275
From January 25, 2026.  It seems “China” is already doing what you suggest.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 19:04 utc | 16

Now – a side note – but I was reading the last article and the responses got so confusing – being so many posts got deleted.
Regardless – China presently holds the cards on “rare earth metals” – and they did it without even firing a shot.
Go figure.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 19:06 utc | 17

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 19:04 utc | 16
 
Yes, exactly. And that is what b (and the other author he linked) is getting at. If the US can exert strategic proxy control over Iran, then  they will try to use that as a bargaining chip for things like the metals and other elements your link about the weaponization of the periodic table discusses. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:06 utc | 18

I don’t think it is gonna be easy to block “energy supply” – especially when ships heading to China get passage.  I mean that is that.
WAR is WAR.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 19:08 utc | 19

The one good thing abut Trump is that he does seem to be the only leading politician who recognises how close to the end the US empire is.  MAGA after all was the only admission that America is no longer Great that any politician has even made.So observe that US has pulled out of direct conflict with both Russia and China.  That US would look cowardly but for the extravagant threats against VZ and Iran (but no proper action till this week end).And observe that a US that could not defend Israel  would appear extremely weak.And that the dollar (which Trump does care about) depends very much on US ability to throw its military might about.Unwise or not, US does seem compelled to get into a fight with someone PDQ.  VZ is just unrealistic, it would require a troop invasion.  For Israel this is an opportunity to get Trump to attack Iran.Netanyahu knows how to play Trump.Attacking Iran is high high risk for US but there is the incentive.But letting Israel attack Iran wihtout US help and lose would be a complete disaster with extreme certainty.So it had to happen.  (yes I also thought it would be too mad to contemplate but that is modern US – the alternative to war (peace) will be disastrous)

Posted by: Michael Droy | Mar 2 2026 19:09 utc | 20

As usual Simplicious has a realistic assessment (does not equal correct):

As such, this one’s for all the marbles and Iran appears to be biding its time, playing this one more smartly, evidenced by latest claims of Trump’s “surprise” that Iran’s attacks have been “limited” so far. On one hand, this could be explained by the earlier theory that Iran is seeking an off-ramp, but at the same time Iran could simply be digging in for the long haul this time, and does not want to blow its load too early; these aren’t mutually exclusive.

I think that many countries harm their own interests by very restrained support for Iran or siding with the borg. This will not ensure their longer term security. A coward dies 1000 deaths.

Posted by: jared | Mar 2 2026 19:09 utc | 21

With all due respect b, is beginning to sound like Seymour Hersh. His usual sharp analysis is becoming blunt. 

Posted by: Steve | Mar 2 2026 19:10 utc | 22

Yes, Iran probably was part of  an energy dominance strategy aimed at China.
However, I don’t think Trump has a plan. He  got duped by Bibi and is making things up as he goes along. He pulled the 4 weeks timeframe out of thin air.  If he could get a ceasefire right now he would take it. 
As Alex Krainer wrote today, Trump scored an own goal like no one has ever seen  
https://open.substack.com/pub/trendcompass/p/an-own-goal-like-nobodys-ever-seen?r=bsac1&utm_medium=ios
 
 

Posted by: Moses22 | Mar 2 2026 19:11 utc | 23

From what I can tell, Iran is pretty much on their own. I wish that wasn’t the case and many here would disagree, but I just don’t see it. Super secret maybe they are, maybe they aren’t doesn’t cut it. If they were substantially backing Iran I believe it would be clear to see and it is not. As far as I’m concerned the ‘axis of resistance’ really isn’t and never was. Unified with mutual defense treaties between Iran, Russia and China that if one was attacked, all would come to their defense would have prevented all of this, but they haven’t taken this obvious step.  Russia wallows in Ukraine, China does nothing, and Iran is left to fight alone. 
 
I wish that wasn’t the case and I still hold out hope that Iran can hold the Empire of Lies and Chaos off by itself. But in doing so, it is clear they are going to get wrecked. The videos out of Tehran are pretty horrifying and far more extensive than anything I’m seeing on the other side, but of course media blackouts might account for much of that, or it might not. I just don’t know and if your honest with yourself, neither do you. 
 
My greatest hope is that the US and Israel quickly run out of AD missiles and Iran gives them the pasting they rightly deserve. My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Iran, but not with either the Russian or Chinese governments who seem to endlessly disappoint. 

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 2 2026 19:11 utc | 24

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:06 utc | 18
Good “luck” to those using the military of the us of a as if it is a “pawn” – I don’t care for that one bit.
So – if they try to stop free passage of the oil carriers to China – sort of like they tracked down that Russian ship near the UK of all places after it was deterred in Venezuela – (there must be more to that “story”) – I think it is a fools game and reflective of a place in serious decline.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 19:12 utc | 25

In light of this it is interesting that Trump today set the length for his war on Iran to four weeks:
 
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That’s the thing, Trump has no control over the timing.
 
Unless he can raise a 200,000-man army, he’s never seizing control of anything ever.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:13 utc | 26

Four weeks? Could be asking a lot of some of the allies/vassals to last that long; in the ”RIP” thread I posted a link to an article that covers the economic losses already being caused by the closure of Dubai airport, possibly up to US$1 million per minute.
How many US$1 million’s in four weeks?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2026 19:13 utc | 27

I’m just spit balling here, but what do people think would happen if in fact Iran did have (whether Chinese or their own) ability to sink a major aircraft carrier and managed to do so? 
 
I understand the current approach of disabling smaller vessels needed for support, fueling and maintenance, but I’m just curious what we think would happen if an aircraft carrier was actually sunk?  What would public opinion polls in the core of the imperium say then? 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:14 utc | 28

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 2 2026 19:11 utc | 24
 
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Very predictable post.
 
Iran doesn’t need allies.
 
America has endless weak spots that Iran can exploit.
 
This is a battle of wills (and supply chains).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:14 utc | 29

A report from John Helmer; Israelis planned to use nuclear weapons offensively if Goyimstan/US did not immediately do what it was told to do by it’s Israelis/Israeli-American-rulers. Additionally, Helmer reports that the Israeli plan B is to use nuclear weapons if they don’t achieve the defeat of Iran conventionally. Plan A, Israelis use nukes, plan B, Israelis use nukes.

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 2 2026 19:14 utc | 30

Posted by: Facekicker | Mar 2 2026 18:54 utc | 8

+1 
I guess you weren’t a regular barfly during the Epstein plandemics, then…  🙂

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Mar 2 2026 19:16 utc | 31

The war has a dual function: 1) Israel’s interest in destroying Iran 2) the US interest in blocking China’s energy supply.osted by: smartfox | Mar 2 2026 19:03 utc | 15
 
 
not to mention the gobs of money the energy sector will make as prices skyrocket
and Kushner makes a killing off his Iran war betting company

Posted by: ld | Mar 2 2026 19:16 utc | 32

I won’t call Trumpshit, but there are numerous errors here, b. Millions were in the streets of Tehran publicly mourning and calling for revenge of Khamenei’s murder–a vast number of videos on images prove that Theran isn’t being bombed to “smithereens.” Second, the political goal of regime change was the first required step to balkanizing Iran and thus negating it as a regional power; however, the plan didn’t include the millions of troops required to complete that policy goal; thus, the policy failed in its planning stage. Why? Because the Kool-Aid said Iran was a “house of cards.” 
It’s now public knowledge that Trump via the Italians asked Iran for a ceasefire so negotiations could resume. Larijani replied “No, the war will end when we say so.” And that will occur once the Zionists are rendered incapable of harming anyone anymore. All of that confirms my initial analysis. I also said the war will last all of March and that the jihad and economic fallout will last much longer. IMO, it’s possible for the war to completely oust the Zionists form Palestine and Levant will last longer than a month. And the same can be said for the complete eradication of Outlaw US Empire military presence in the region. The fallout for all regional Arab monarchies may prove fatal, Jordan most particularly because of its very large Palestinian diaspora. Then there’s the question of what Egypt and Turkey might do. And Iraq; will its people free themselves from the Empire as they are now attempting?
 
Why are the UK, France, and Germany having their regional assets attacked? They were the three that conspired with Trump to try and impose the snap-back sanctions from the defunct JCPOA. And we must not forget that the Zionist existence in Palestine was made possible by British and French Imperialism. 
 
I must thank Pepe Escobar for bringing up the big dilemma Russia faces with having 1,5-2 million dual passport holders living in Occupied Palestine–that was done toward the end of his chat segment with Nima this morning. I won’t attempt to paraphrase what he said because it’s too important. Finally, Dr. Hudson has published a short essay that provides further excellent analysis of why the Empire chose this course of action. I also suggest the Crooke/Judge Nap chat this morning. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 2 2026 19:16 utc | 33

What is really being said here is that China and Russia are both more than willing to watch another ally go down while they pretend to help… it all seems to be horrible theater … for all their posturing about a multipolar world, China and Russia seem quite content to be junior partners to the Hegemon, as long as the smaller counties get put in their place…

Posted by: Paul | Mar 2 2026 19:17 utc | 34

The China angle is the controlled opposition narrative that feeds the East vs West and imperialists vs antiimperialists false political dialectic. Those are the old ways that the Globalists want to keep everyone stuck inside of such that they only have questions but no definitive answers.
Definitive answers are only ever the result of structural analyses. Structural analyses can only ever be engaged by starting with first fundamentals and proceeding from there with complexity theory. 
So long as you all refuse to put the work in to understanding that this industrial civilization is SINGULAR due to extreme marketplace complexity, and that NO country is capable of transitioning to an industrial autarky, then you will never get any concrete answers as to why the US MIC, that is the prize possession of the Globalists, would allow the Zionist political faction to regime change Iran when the costs of regime change objectively outweigh the benefits. Because all those questions are political and not structural. 
The questions to ask are ones like, how does this unfolding war catastrophe benefit a collapsing global industrial civilization? What is the structural method to the apparent political madness? 

Posted by: reante | Mar 2 2026 19:17 utc | 35

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:14 utc | 29
 
We all need allies sometimes LD. Hasn’t life taught you anything. 

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 2 2026 19:18 utc | 36

B. I seldom disagree with you take, but I feel you are as wide off the mark on this point as on the plandemic.
Hemingway explains why.
“The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists.” 

Posted by: Bok | Mar 2 2026 19:18 utc | 37

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 2 2026 19:14 utc | 30
 
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Helmer is a fantasist who appeals to the delusional and uninformed.
 
I’d be careful with his “reporting”.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:18 utc | 38

“Never interrupt your enemy while he is in the process of making a mistake.”
 
China has the luxury of letting the U.S. run down it’s inventory for a long as it takes.

Posted by: Helen Weals | Mar 2 2026 19:19 utc | 39

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:14 utc | 28
I ought no better, but my view is it would be “unwise” to sink an Aircraft Carrier – that might trigger a nuclear response and while war is war – we don’t all want to DIE over this foolishness do we?
But – that carrier would be advised to depart – cause if it stays longer than 4 weeks I reckon it will be sunk.
Place your bets!

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 19:20 utc | 40

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 2 2026 19:18 utc | 36
 
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Who is “we”?
 
You’re a Yank, you have no allies, only vassals and co-Pedophiles.
 
I’m good, thanks.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:22 utc | 41

Iran is to China what Ukraine is to Europe: A convenient vehicle to weaken the enemy. If Iran were to sink even one aircraft carrier, demonstrating it is possible, Taiwan would be on its own. With no US protection. Same goes for Japan …Russia, on the other hand, benefits from energy infrastructure and oil tankers in Iran and its neighbouring countries being destroyed. With Iran gone, and Venezuela gone, China and India will have to buy Russian oil. And those sanctions meant to damage Russia: They’ll really, really hurt Europe when oil- and gas supplies from the Middle East dry up. LNG-prices are exploding already, with Katar’s infrastructure taking hits. At a time when Europe’s reserves are at an all-time low.

Posted by: Marvin | Mar 2 2026 19:22 utc | 42

Short of using a nuclear weapon, it ain’t gonna happen. Even with using such a weapon, Iran will prevail. Sending troops, as he has stated he would do, into a country of 90 million and the size of Europe will be a catastrophe for Emperor Trump. I would bet one penny that China cancels the visit from the Emperor. 

Posted by: octavian61 | Mar 2 2026 19:22 utc | 43

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:18 utc | 38
 
Actually Helmer is one of the few who go beyond generalities like yourself and actually digs into the weeds and offers real analysis. You just don’t like what he says. 

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 2 2026 19:23 utc | 44

S Brennan | Mar 2 2026 19:14 utc | 30
*** Additionally, Helmer reports that the Israeli plan B is to use nuclear weapons if they don’t achieve the defeat of Iran conventionally. Plan A, Israelis use nukes, plan B, Israelis use nukes.***
 
So the Khazars become Kalizars ……

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 2 2026 19:23 utc | 45

Realpolitiks Geopolitical interests
 
USA regardless of Democrats or Republicans are all the same Uniparty on the topic of Digital Censorship and War on Iran
 
Blocking China from accessing cheap Iranian oil is secondary to their interests
 
China had been pivoting away from Oil and Gas dependency in MENA by

  1. Pipelines from Central Asia Russia Siberia and Myanmar to China
  2. Unstable + weather dependant Green renewable energy 
  3. Alternative routes like North Pole shipping lanes and Pakistan Ciian corridor and maybe build canal in Thailand 
  4. Oil Reserves 

In the competition between US and China. The current USA is hellbent on control all oil field like
Venezuela but their oil is too sour and current infrastructure cannot use it.
Alberta Canada separatists were invited to the White House. Pentagon floating the idea of controlling Canada oil field.
Iran oil fields are light and good to use but as we can see they aren’t giving up without a fight
Russia is currently delivering gas to China using pipelines but oil are still ocean bounds.
Gulf states oil rigs and all facilities and refineries got hit by rockets. It will take months or years for anything to restart production even if everything isn’t destroyed. Also foreign workers are leaving.
Other oil producers Nigeria Brunei Angola etc cannot keep up with the demands of the world insatiable appetite to feed the modern world.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 2 2026 19:24 utc | 46

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 2 2026 19:23 utc | 44
 
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Of course, you’re a Helmer guy. 😂😂😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:24 utc | 47

My post from the RIP thread:
In this war the parties have following ressoures:US and Israel have:1. A lot of ammunition for bombing Iran and a lot of airlpanes to do the job.2. Satellite surveillance.3. CIA and Mossad for detecting Iran leaders.4. Limited air defense ammuntion (the talk is for about two weeks)5. NukesIran has:1. A vast amount of drone and rockets, the more advanced even not yet used.2. As Shiites the willingness to suffer and for martyrdom – and to replace killed leaders.When the US/Israel air defence is depleted, and Iran has still ammunition, they can continue to beat US bases and Israel really hard until they beg for peace. Even now, there is a fair amount of destruction. And they are not accustomed to real damage and casualties. US may even give up some bases.
 
The US/Israel crazies could opt for nukes. In both cases the war will not take too long – or in case of the nukes it could lead to a world war.

Posted by: Johann Siegfried von Oberndorf | Mar 2 2026 19:27 utc | 48

For the first time in US history, polls show that Americans view Palestinians more favorably than they view israelis. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 2 2026 19:27 utc | 49

I too call the four weeks timeline Trump bullshit as it’s easy to start the war but hard to end it.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 2 2026 19:28 utc | 50

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 19:24 utc | 47
 
I support facts and investigation, getting to the truth. I am nobody’s sycophant. Unlike you who slaves yourself to ideology and views everything through a very biased lens. 

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 2 2026 19:29 utc | 51

Iran falling to the Israelis/Israeli-Americans hurts Russia/Iran/China together and as Maverick above points out, this was EASILY PREVENTABLE, all three parties involved simply chose not to.  Extraordinary.  It’s easy to say that this is more fruit from the poisonous Slo-Mo, Go-Slo tree but, it’s more than that, all three countries have more than their share of quislings so, maybe that’s the root of their paralysis.

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 2 2026 19:30 utc | 52

So, 5th dimensional chess from USA and Israel? Don’t buy it.

Or just stupid is who stupid does?

Whole purpose of USA colonies in Gulf is to:
1. produce oil
2. transport oil

Iran just showed it can end that in 24 hours. USA just showed it can’t even defend its own bases there, let alone whole colonial order.

You can bet Gulf states are already scrambling to make deals with Iran and accept new strongest factor in the region.

Donnie just lost Middle East to USA.

Posted by: Abe | Mar 2 2026 19:30 utc | 53

@ KillerDoll | Mar 2 2026 19:24 utc | 46
 
I’m sure I read somewhere fairly recently (might even been a link that a barfly posted here) that China was expanding its fleet of nuclear power stations as well.
 
I’ve certainly seen several articles and commentary about their serious research and experimentation with thorium reactors. 

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2026 19:32 utc | 54

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 2 2026 19:30 utc | 52
 
Little fucktard concern troll is concerned! How’s the air down in that jewish bunker?

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 2 2026 19:33 utc | 55

The “cards” are shuffling themselves.
§| Spain has said U$ cannot use bases to attack Iran, and U$ vessels are leaving
§ Bulgaria is rapidly backpedaling, saying “we dindo nufin” … despite previously posting and boasting about U$ aircraft ready to roll from their civilian airport
§ Cyprus is seeking guarantees from UK that it’s bases won’t be used.
$ Greece is sending a vessel and planes to defend its part of Cyprus.
Turkiye is saying nothing. Very silent.
§| 3 U$ fighters were downed over Kuwait as Iranian drones attacked the US embassy.
§| Panic buying in Dubai as people realise nothing is coming in by air or sea…
 
And it’s only Tuesday. (Well it is here)
 
^^^ links for the above on the open thread posted during yesterday my time

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 2 2026 19:34 utc | 56

For the first time in US history, polls show that Americans view Palestinians more favorably than they view israelis. 
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 2 2026 19:27 utc | 49
 
Source is an AP poll.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 2 2026 19:34 utc | 57

 
haifa and tel aviv etc etc won’t exist in four weeks
 
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 2 2026 19:35 utc | 58

The questions to ask are ones like, how does this unfolding war catastrophe benefit a collapsing global industrial civilization? What is the structural method to the apparent political madness? 
Posted by: reante | Mar 2 2026 19:17 utc | 35
 
Maybe?
 
“what if then us offered RF Eastern Europe (and even a say on western continental) , for joining the us on a “energy board” that decides who gets what at what price… not saying it is so, not saying RF would accept, just discussing a scenario that could neuter china without a direct blockade , let alone open conflict…  Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2026 18:00 utc | 152” Maybe the end of march visit is only the first part of the strategy…
Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2026 18:52 utc | 5

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2026 19:37 utc | 59

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 2 2026 19:28 utc | 50
 
As absolutely shit-brained as it sounds, I truly believe that the 4-week BS timeframe is really the amount of time that the US and Isn’tReal have to destroy Iran’s missile capabilities and at which point, if they have failed or are taking heavy casualties after AD is depleted, they’ll resort to nukes and God save us all if/when that happens. 
 
We can all bandy about our (often good and useful) geopolitical/economic theories for this war, but at the end of the day these people are psychotic. We are ruled by pedophilic, above-the-law lunatics. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:37 utc | 60

Its all nonsense – the four to five week duration of this war. Clearly delusional WH chatter.  Even DJT supporters like Tucker are disenchanted……
 
The US and Israel armed forces do not have four to five weeks of AAD ordinance to expend against Iranian missile, aircraft and drone attacks, they are lucky to have four or five days worth of ordinance at this rate of fire.
 
When Haifa is destroyed (again) in detail, then there will be ceasefire, and how long do the Gulf states wish to continue to take daily punishing fire that is destroying there own little ‘Vegas’ of the ME?
 
This whole mess will be over by the weekend……bet on it……drinks at the bar on me, I will take a West Cork irish on rocks please……….

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 2 2026 19:37 utc | 61

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 2 2026 19:30 utc | 52
 
Don’t remember who posted it above, but Michael Hudson hits the nail  on  the head here: https://michael-hudson.com/2026/03/negotiation-to-detonation/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:39 utc | 62

Any intelligent and military assets have been in use in MENA against any terrorist organization or government is another asset and personnel not being in use on China.
 
The USA lost because Obama tried to pull out of MENA to Pacific but distracted and now Trump too.
 
China has its plan of 2050 timeline to achieve the current USA status. China was free from US intervention since 2001 until now.
 
As long as USA is forever stuck in MENA China will be Surpass the USA
 
Look at this and tell me How MIDDLE EAST NORTH AFRICA isnt US Vietnam. The USA is in a quicksand here.
Blackhawk down Al shabab, Somali
Beirut bombing Hezbollah, Lebanon
Soviet Taliban Osama, Afghanistan
Saddam Hussein ISIS, Iraq
Civil War No Fly Zone Gaddafi, Lybia
Assad Moderate rebels Al Nursa Kurds, Syria 
Hamas Palestinian states, Israel 
Houthi, Yemen
IRCG since 1979, Iran
2011 Arab spring Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt
Wagner groups and Nomadic Islamist group in the Sahara desert acrosss North Africa
The USA need to cut off its Empiral tentacles tangled in this Cancer known as Muslim World

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 2 2026 19:41 utc | 63

China should takeover Taiwan now.
 
No point delaying it. Old Uncle Sam is too busy. Swiftly take back Taiwan and integrate it to the PRC model. Don’t give Uncle Sam time to recover.

Posted by: Jason | Mar 2 2026 19:43 utc | 64

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2026 19:32 utc | 54
 
Yes, Rosatom is involved in partnership with China to expand its nuclear capacity by introducing new reactors that complete the fuel cycle. China’s new 5-Year Plan has energy generation expansion as its top priority in all realms, including energy storage. As we’ve seen, Chinese planners are very perceptive and accurate in their choices. More nations are realizing the Chinese model is the one to emulate, which means planned social-industrial capitalism with the state controlling money and credit creation. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 2 2026 19:43 utc | 65

The USA need to cut off its Empiral tentacles tangled in this Cancer known as Muslim World
Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 2 2026 19:41 utc | 63
 
The US, EU countries and Israel are the carcinogens that caused any “cancer” in the Muslim world. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 2 2026 19:43 utc | 66

At first it was going to be a quickie, just a weekend foray…kill Khamenei and call it quits.
Now they’re selling a month long war, = 4 weeks and we’re done
Next
>>>> we’ll be home by Christmas!
 
Boots.
TrumpTeamTrix are talking boots. Boots on the ground.
 
They really have no clue.
 
Meanwhile,  Bibi skedaddled to German in the first few hours, and hasn’t been heard of since.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 2 2026 19:43 utc | 67

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 2 2026 19:37 utc | 61
Once again I ought no better – but I can resist this – I take the bet.
I bet against this being resolved over the weekend.
So my bet is placed on this. Gracious me.

 
West Cork is renowned for its dramatic coastal landscapes, where rugged rocks and dramatic sea cliffs define the region’s identity.  The area’s geology, shaped over millions of years, includes ancient bedrock formations like Old Red Sandstone and dolerite, visible in places such as Dunmanus Bay and Ballycotton Bay. These rocks are not only geological features but also cultural landmarks—many were used in prehistoric times for megalithic tombs and ritual sites, including wedge tombs and stone circles like Drombeg near Glandore. 
The Wild Atlantic Way runs through West Cork, highlighting iconic rock formations such as Bull Rock off Dursey Island—famous for its pirate-era legends—and Mizen Head, Ireland’s most southwesterly point, where the Atlantic Ocean crashes against towering cliffs.  The area also includes Mass Rocks, where Catholics secretly held Mass during the Penal era, such as the site at Toormore near Schull, which sits atop a Bronze Age wedge tomb. 
In addition to its natural and historical significance, West Cork is home to West Cork Distillers, a modern craft whiskey producer.  Their Bourbon Cask Blended Irish Whiskey—aged in ex-bourbon barrels—reflects the region’s heritage with notes of vanilla, honey, and toasted oak, offering a smooth, approachable flavor profile that captures the character of the land.  This whiskey, like the region itself, blends tradition with craftsmanship, making it a distinctive expression of West Cork’s spirit. 

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 19:43 utc | 68

So with Venezuela and Iran out of the game for delivering oil and gas to China, Russia wins some leverage over China. So much for “Russia is the pet duck of China”.As a bonus, Russia has less interest to sell its oil and gas to the EU in the future. Lets see if the EU can heat its homes with heat pumps and wind 😀
 

Posted by: Ali | Mar 2 2026 19:48 utc | 69

Meanwhile,  Bibi skedaddled to German in the first few hours, and hasn’t been heard of since.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 2 2026 19:43 utc | 67
 
Man I hate that demon. “God’s people” my big fat white ass… ad they can kiss it, too. Most of us will never look at a jew in the same way, innocent or not. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 2 2026 19:48 utc | 70

When you want to play for keeps with the big boys, eventually you have to put some skin in the game. Especially when the stakes are so high. The US is doing it, Russia is doing it, North Korea is doing it, Europeans are doing it (they have disguised troops in the Ukraine, we all know.
China? Not quite yet. They provide ISR and some weapon technology, but real fully fledged military support? 
If Iran goes down, it is a serious strategic blow for China as it seeks to maintain its position of dominance. If China really make a stand, and mean it, the Israel-led US will have no choice but to back off.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Mar 2 2026 19:49 utc | 71

see the 17-second video at the first link
 
see the 34-second video at the second link. 
 
 
 
https://x.com/AryJeay/status/2028551992352616816
Arya – آریا @AryJeay 
 
Tonight at Enghelab Sq, Tehran.
 
Grieving Iranians demand: 
No surrender, we want revenge.
 
————-
 
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/2028551433373589616
Lord Bebo  @MyLordBebo 
 
🇺🇸🇮🇶 The Iraqi resistance attacks American targets in Erbil. 
 
Get ready for more bombing of Iraq by the US Airforce
 
———–
 
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2028530588827668899
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
The Americans are saying that their main ally is Israel and all the others are classical allies. It is time for the Gulf countries to realise their position and put an end to all US military bases they are hosting.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 2 2026 19:51 utc | 72

@20
“Make America Great Again” is a ripoff from Reagan’s campaign in 1980.

Posted by: p3t3r | Mar 2 2026 19:52 utc | 73

If Iran bends its entire BRICS assembly collapses like a castle of cards. This will prove once again that I was right and that Putin and Xi are two soft robotic rags who only know how to grin stupidly by reaching out for photos that will end up in the trash of History.

Posted by: Hagen | Mar 2 2026 19:54 utc | 74

I was surprised to see Krainer of all people is starting to distance himself from his former love affair with The Orange One. 
Clearly people who think like Bibi don’t give a sh!t about soft power. Hard power is all they care about. I feel like this means US decline could accelerate if Israel becomes like South Africa did.

Posted by: Pym of Nantucket | Mar 2 2026 19:57 utc | 75

p3t3r | Mar 2 2026 19:52 utc | 73
 
You’ve stated precisely what Trump is–a giant Rip-Off artist.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 2 2026 20:00 utc | 76

@Steve | Mar 2 2026 19:10 utc | 22. Please don’t complain of B’s short-comings without providing substantive new material or corrections to whatever deficits B’s material had. Complaining is a waste of bandwidth on everyone’s part.
 
===
 
The way you get to political action is to set out a course of action that meets the needs of the quorum (key players) necessary to get a particular action done. War is a political action. The “key players” are Deep State (each Western country has one, often comprised of Empire operatives), the global rich that control the Deep State(s), and some array of hangers-on / opportunists. 
We have the “West” – that’s the global rich and their operatives in the “Deep States” on one hand, and everyone else that wants self-determination on the other. Mid-east has the most oil, all modern economies need huge energy inputs, so if you want to control others control energy. Hence mid-East / West Asia. 
 
I think we all know who the Antagonists in this play are; we’ve beat that horse pretty good. Now it’s down to actual war, and it’s time to see who’s got the firepower to back up their position.
 
The key unanswered questions are (as others have already posted):
 
a. Who runs out of ammunition or launch-access for that ammunition (bases, carriers, etc.) first, and
 
b. Who hits something of great strategic value “firstest with the mostest” (h/t Stonewall Jackson) and of course that culminates with 
 
c. When do the nukes come out. I don’t currently see a path to avoid the Nuke Move if Iran wins A and B above…
 
And yet, it seems like Iran is reconciled to item C, or they’d be behaving differently. So that means either:
 
a. Iran is reconciled to a major urban-center holocaust, or
 
b. Iran has reason to believe Samson is in a cage, and won’t come out. Someone has told Samson a story.
 
“Samson” is the mythical Jewish figure that destroyed everyone – including himself – as he lost the war.
 
That means we have only a few more days of fog-of-war uncertainty; the ammunition story has a week to go, and it’ll be very obvious when someone runs out: more attacks get through the gauntlet, and more desperate acts occur, like the bombing of nuke facilities. 
 
Every arm-chair general I read has said that the US-Israel side runs out of ammunition first, and that Trump is dreaming when he says he can keep up the war for months, or send ground troops. 
 
I do have one question for the bar: apparently there was a bomber attack on Iran; was that actual bombs dropped vertically from over Iran, or was that just more stand-off cruise missile launches?
 
I ask because that’s a tell: either Iran can spot and shoot down planes over its territory, or not.Do the actually have the AD capacity to see stealth planes and shoot them down, or not?
 
The “or not” is a big deal; if it can reliably shoot down overhead planes, then the bombs-delivered stops once the ordinance runs out, or the launch pads / tankers get knocked out.
 
I expect Iran to concentrate on reducing launch-pads; they’re fixed, they’re in-range, and may not be adequately defended from Iran’s best missiles. That may well be a few more days’ work for Iran given the pace of the last two days’ destruction of US bases, including Cyprus.
 
I also note – based on reporting here at MoA – that Iran now has long-range drone anti-aircraft  tools. (thanks Persiflo). That may become quite problematic for tankers. I note that max range for this drone is 1000km. (several sources, here’s one and another). 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Mar 2 2026 20:00 utc | 77

Posted by: Hagen | Mar 2 2026 19:54 utc | 74
 
I’ll bet that you’ve never been right about much of anything in your entire miserable life. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 2 2026 20:01 utc | 78

Lindsay Graham wants Moar War.
(Of course he does)
 

Cuba is Next.
Lindsey Graham: “Cuba is next. They are going to fall. This communist dictatorship in Cuba? Their days are numbered.”

 
https://nitter.net/AFpost/status/2028470392084427168

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 2 2026 20:02 utc | 79

I never comment on this site despite on lurking here for 7 years until the US bombing Iran war. For me this is very bad. The public may be desensitized by all the Big Events like pandemics wars but this one is real big Black Swan event for a global collapse.
 
Oil is the fundamentals of the world despite what Climate change activists want to stop. Every modern technology like plastics asphalt etc around us has its origin coming from oil underground.
 
This disruption will fundamentally break the world into different fragments. Everyone will become POORER as resources and financial levers are weaponized against eachother. Wars will be Inevitable as a fact of life across the globe.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 2 2026 20:03 utc | 80

Four weeks is a long time in the life of a Donald. Look, he’s bombed eight countries in a year, started two wars in two days, (Iran and Pak-Afghanistan). Got Bill gates “pardonned” (and truncated the Epstein lists where Gates and Clintons were named) in a week, and given him massive contracts. The other Epstein class are queuing up for generous non-bid contracts as well.
 
So, too long a time frame, and it is not really him that controls the USZio war effort. He just gets the US to pay (on credit) for it. Then there are the coalition of the EU dimwits, who will queue up to send their troops to do photo ops in the “war” theater.
 
etc. etc. The actual fighting is clearly calculated to last by the Iranians. However, when the Israeli attacks on Lebanon, on the last survivors in Gaza and extending their settlers takeovers are concluded, we may see the beginning of the end.

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 2 2026 20:05 utc | 81

Michael Lüders, renowned Middle East expert: Armageddon im Orient (in German)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhHwTxh96W0
 
 

Posted by: mk | Mar 2 2026 20:06 utc | 82

The decision by USA and Israel to go to war against Iran was, according to Crooke, confirmed at the end of December, coinciding with Treasury’s attack on Iran’s currency/economy. The economic attack was followed by the orchestrated protests within Iran, which was accelerated by violent elements seeking to escalate violence on all sides, coordinated with external propaganda networks. Should that initial momentum succeeded in creating the intended sustained chaos, it’s conceivable a well-timed decapitation strike could have truly caused a lot of damage to internal stability within Iran. Certainly the west’s propaganda was locked in to such a scenario. But the operation’s destabilizing intent stalled out, with the strong indication that the disruption of the Starlink system (on which everything apparently relied) was a key factor.  After some weeks, the decision was made to go ahead with the plan anyway – without the internal chaos to provide a pretext and the environment for a potentially successful regime-change. 
 
Indications right now are that the Americans are trying to get some kind of ceasefire put in place, but their track record of negotiating in bad faith is severely limiting any progress there. Israeli hubris appears to have gone mute – three days ago they were joking about bomb shelter “pajama parties”, and now the joke is on them and they have yet to be seriously targeted. There is a very high chance should matters proceed as currently, that some sort of “doomsday” weapon will be employed by US and/or Israel (nuclear bomb, neutron bomb, etc)
 
Also, in Lebanon, announcement was made that Hezbollah had been “disarmed” in the south, and sure enough, two weeks later, Israel is announcing an invasion of the newly presumably defenceless area. As for Gaza, the Board of Peace is surely a dead letter, after a single meeting. 

Posted by: jayc | Mar 2 2026 20:06 utc | 83

@ Jimmy. Truth hurts, huh?

Posted by: Hagen | Mar 2 2026 20:07 utc | 84

“when the Supreme Court recently buried his tariff edicts”
Ridiculous. European news might claim that, but the Administration is doubling down on different justifications not covered by SCOTUS.
 
Anyways, the fact China is “hedging” with Russia just demonstrates how weak their motivation is. The Chinese can share targeting intelligence, and Israel REALLY isn’t going to like that. But China isn’t risking a war well out of their comfort zone for a third-tier priority. It’s why day drinkers have to fantasize about a Chinese attack on Taiwan. Not going to happen this year, or ever.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Mar 2 2026 20:08 utc | 85

KillerDoll,
 
Indeed – prep for hard times. Practice csr lite mobility 

Posted by: Exile | Mar 2 2026 20:09 utc | 86

The big question is How does Trump get himself out of this mess?.
He has to declare that the US withdraws from the Mid East and passes the baton to Iran.This requires two major events, Israel is given a major kicking by Iran and Energy prices skyrocket causing major damage to the world economy. If he is savey enough to take that route only time will tell

Posted by: Monty | Mar 2 2026 20:09 utc | 87

How much US debt needs rolling over in the next 4 weeks? Some of the major holders in the Gulf might have second thoughts about their holdings, especially if their twin income streams of oil and tourism are adversely affected.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2026 20:09 utc | 88

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 2 2026 19:37 utc | 61
 
#####
 
Tucker’s son is JD Vance’s Deputy Press Secretary.
 
Everything Tucker does on his show is a performance.
 
It’s media management. In America, all of the personalities are actors.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 20:10 utc | 89

Posted by: Hagen | Mar 2 2026 20:07 utc | 84
 
You wouldn’t know truth if it jumped up and bit you in the ass. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 2 2026 20:11 utc | 90

In the words of novelist John Dos Pasos in his great trilogy USA……….”oil was trumps.”
That was 100 years ago, and remains the name of the game,,,Also the main motivation for the Ukraine war…Russia’s massive oil and other resources….

Posted by: pyrrhus | Mar 2 2026 20:12 utc | 91

Brian Berletic has been saying for years that the US’s overrriding foreign policy goal is continued global primacy, that the leading threat to that is China, that the US wants to gain control of Iran’s oil because 80% of Iran’s oil exports go to China, and that the US intends to use its proxy Israel to absorb the blame for an attack on Iran.  He has repeatedly pointed to a 2009 Brookings Institution paper with a section called “Leave it to Bibi” that says exactly that’s how an attack on Iran should be implemented.  And since Israel is totally dependent on the US for its weapons rather than the other way around, the US has complete leverage over Israel and would have no difficulty getting Israel to do and say whatever the US wants it to.
What’s going on now strongly echoes the 1953 US and UK overthrow of the Iran’s elected leader Mossadegh, who had nationalized Iran’s oil, and their substitution of their puppet the shah.  Israel played no role in that affair.  Then as now, the US didn’t need Iran’s oil but saw it as a means to exert control over countries that did.  Currently, the country it wants to exert control over is China.
All this nonsense about Israel being behind this war distracts from how epochal the outcome of this war will be.  The US’s determination to block the rise of China and turn it into a vassal state has several motives.  The less important ones are that it will ensure continued access to China’s vast labor and consumer markets for American corporations, as well as to its resources including rare earths. US corporations wouldn’t have to fear competition from Chinese companies even if those companies produce better and cheaper products.
But the more important motive is that the success of the Chinese economic model, in which the welfare of the people takes precedence over private profits, and the market is reduced to a tool to improve living standards, would pose a mortal threat to the continuation of the Western capitalist model in which private profits reign supreme.  To take just one example, everyone in the West assumes that AI will result in the loss of millions of jobs, and that those who become unemployed will have to fend for themselves with perhaps a few government scraps to sustain them.  In China, people don’t fear AI because they assume that the government will use it as a way to improve their lives.
In other words, if the Chinese model isn’t destroyed it will be bound to be emulated by many other countries and even eventually (though it will be the laggard) the US.   That is why the US is unlikely to ever walk away from this war.  Defeating Iran is the best chance it’s likely to ever have to derail China.
Epstein and Bibi are just a sideshow.  Yes, many in the Israeli government may sincerely want there to be a “greater Israel.”  And many of the suitably indoctrinated Israeli populace may now support that.  But it’s not something they even talked about just a few years ago, and certainly not something they’d favor at the cost of having Israeli cities bombed by Iran.  For the US, this war is “existential” in the sense that’s it’s crucial to preserving its predatory economic system.  Israel has much less to gain, and far more to lose.  It has always been and remains “the US’s unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East,” whose purpose is to help the West keep a lid on Arab nationalism in an oil-rich region.  What Israelis think is basically irrelevant because they have to do and say what the US tells them to.
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Mouse | Mar 2 2026 20:13 utc | 92

IRAN’S REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS COMMANDER SAYS STRAIT OF HORMUZ IS CLOSED, IRAN TO SET ON FIRE ANY SHIP TRYING TO PASS -IRANIAN MEDIA

Posted by: Hormuz | Mar 2 2026 20:14 utc | 93

So, in 4 Weeks DonT takes His Ball, declares Victory and goes Home while Iran keeps pummeling the Region? I DONT THINK SO!

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 2 2026 20:15 utc | 94

this is too convoluted – I call bullshit on it.
Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 18:42 utc | 1
To convoluted for a little narrow brain. On the contrary, this is utterly simple. The usa needs to stay on top in order to extract from all the world the money needed to finance their deficit spending needed to maintain the empire status. Clear now?

Posted by: Pnyx | Mar 2 2026 20:16 utc | 95

Sorry for the repost but I messed up the paragraphing which made the first one hard to read.  So here it is again:
 
Brian Berletic has been saying for years that the US’s overrriding foreign policy goal is continued global primacy, that the leading threat to that is China, that the US wants to gain control of Iran’s oil because 80% of Iran’s oil exports go to China, and that the US intends to use its proxy Israel to absorb the blame for an attack on Iran.  He has repeatedly pointed to a 2009 Brookings Institution paper with a section called “Leave it to Bibi” that says exactly that’s how an attack on Iran should be implemented.  And since Israel is totally dependent on the US for its weapons rather than the other way around, the US has complete leverage over Israel and would have no difficulty getting Israel to do and say whatever the US wants it to.
 
What’s going on now strongly echoes the 1953 US and UK overthrow of the Iran’s elected leader Mossadegh, who had nationalized Iran’s oil, and their substitution of their puppet the shah.  Israel played no role in that affair.  Then as now, the US didn’t need Iran’s oil but saw it as a means to exert control over countries that did.  Currently, the country it wants to exert control over is China.
 
All this nonsense about Israel being behind this war distracts from how epochal the outcome of this war will be.  The US’s determination to block the rise of China and turn it into a vassal state has several motives.  The less important ones are that it will ensure continued access to China’s vast labor and consumer markets for American corporations, as well as to its resources including rare earths. US corporations wouldn’t have to fear competition from Chinese companies even if those companies produce better and cheaper products.
 
But the more important motive is that the success of the Chinese economic model, in which the welfare of the people takes precedence over private profits, and the market is reduced to a tool to improve living standards, would pose a mortal threat to the continuation of the Western capitalist model in which private profits reign supreme.  To take just one example, everyone in the West assumes that AI will result in the loss of millions of jobs, and that those who become unemployed will have to fend for themselves with perhaps a few government scraps to sustain them.  In China, people don’t fear AI because they assume that the government will use it as a way to improve their lives.
 
In other words, if the Chinese model isn’t destroyed it will be bound to be emulated by many other countries and even eventually (though it will be the laggard) the US.   That is why the US is unlikely to ever walk away from this war.  Defeating Iran is the best chance it’s likely to ever have to derail China.
 
Epstein and Bibi are just a sideshow.  Yes, many in the Israeli government may sincerely want there to be a “greater Israel.”  And many of the suitably indoctrinated Israeli populace may now support that.  But it’s not something they even talked about just a few years ago, and certainly not something they’d favor at the cost of having Israeli cities bombed by Iran.  For the US, this war is “existential” in the sense that’s it’s crucial to preserving its predatory economic system.  Israel has much less to gain, and far more to lose.  It has always been and remains “the US’s unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East,” whose purpose is to help the West keep a lid on Arab nationalism in an oil-rich region.  What Israelis think is basically irrelevant because they have to do and say what the US tells them to.

Posted by: Mouse | Mar 2 2026 20:16 utc | 96

jayc @ 83
 

There is a very high chance should matters proceed as currently, that some sort of “doomsday” weapon will be employed by US and/or Israel (nuclear bomb, neutron bomb, etc)

 
For myself, I’m convinced the first war ended after 12 days because Israel was going to use a nuke, the USA and Iran worked out a face saving way to deescalate. My worry is I see no way we won’t get to that exact same point again, and this time what, this time both Israel and USA will want to use a nuke? Iran, Russia, China have this mapped out, they must have a plan to deal with this. Not saying they gave Iran nukes, and I don’t believe in nuclear umbrellas, when the nukes fly it’s every man for himself, so I have no idea where it will go. I do hope better minds on all sides gamed it out intelligently.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 2 2026 20:18 utc | 97

The stock of interceptor missiles relied on by the US and Israel is rapidly running out, and American production of the missiles is very small, 700-800/yr…then there’s the fact that the Abraham Lincoln carrier is trapped in the Arabian Sea now that the Strait of Hormuz is closed, and it reportedly has already taken damage…
Trump needs to get out of there before it turns into a total debacle..

Posted by: pyrrhus | Mar 2 2026 20:19 utc | 98

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2026 20:10 utc | 89
Tucker’s son is Vance’s “press secretory” – did I read that correct. 
Oh glory me – place your bets!

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 2 2026 20:19 utc | 99

does anyone know anything about George News/Media????
They have up on youtube a piece titled “China Leaks EVERY U.S. Military Base Location To Iran — Pentagon SHOCKED & Furious”
Seems to me… Using the word “leaks” implies that there was some obligation to hold private or secret the information being shared, doesn’t it??
Does or doesn’t China have a right to its own sovereignty and its own associations? Isn’t Iran a major partner in many respects with Iran?
Doesn’t the US “leak” its own intelligence info and resources to select others?
 

 

 
 
 

 

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Mar 2 2026 20:19 utc | 100

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