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March 28, 2026
On The Failure Of Shock And Awe In Iran

One Sergey Poletaev (quoted here) writes in RT about the Shock and Awe doctrine:

Russia also succumbed to the idea of the shock and awe doctrine.

After the war with Georgia in 2008, the Russian military was restructured to carry out rapid and destructive military interventions. However, Russia was the first to stumble on this doctrine. In spring 2022, it faced a critical choice: Either fight a serious, bloody war of attrition or settle for a disgraceful peace. Moscow chose war, and the Ukraine conflict has now entered its fifth year.

Trump now finds himself at a similar crossroads: Fight or to concede defeat. The problem is that the entire Western military-industrial complex has spent decades adapting to the shock and awe doctrine; NATO and the US possess unparalleled and exorbitantly expensive airstrike capabilities, but don’t have many other resources. If a targeted nation can withstand the initial air assaults, time will be on its side – unlike Russia, the West lacks the resources for a prolonged military campaign.

This explains the ‘gestures of goodwill’ Trump is currently making toward Iran. Just like Putin in spring 2022, he needs to buy time and figure out his next move: Continue fighting, launch a highly risky landing operation, or settle for a humiliating peace. The first option could spell disaster for Trump in the upcoming midterm elections, while the second could bring the US the most significant strategic defeat since Vietnam.

MoA commentator  English Outsider  replies to it: (Please read his use of “we” in scare quotes. It obviously does not include MoA readers 😉

The RT comparison between the war with Russia and the war with Iran has some force. In both cases the West committed itself to war on a gamble. We expected the Russians to fold at once under our Shock and Awe sanctions; and we expected the Iranians to fold at once as a result of our Shock and Awe initial attack.

Those were our plan A’s and we had no plan B’s ready. In both cases we thought they wouldn’t be needed. In the Iranian case we see Trump himself nonplussed that plan A hasn’t worked. Failure wasn’t supposed to happen, he’s saying, and he’s now at a loss because it has.

So both attacks, the sanctions war on Russia and the Blitzkrieg attack on Iran, were what the soldiers call shit or bust operations. In more elevated terms, both wars were gambles we had to win because the consequences of failure were catastrophic.

So the RT comparison between the Ukrainian war and the war with Iran has some force.  It’s not, however, entirely a foursquare comparison.

The Russians always had options.  There was only one option ever open to the Iranians.  Fight with all they had  because if they didn’t immediate destruction awaited them.

And the comparison also breaks down when we consider the respective positions of Russia and Iran now.  Russia still has the option of finessing the final outcome of the Ukrainian war.  The Russians aren’t too bothered about how they stop the use of Ukraine as a Western attack dog, just as long as they get to stop it one way or the other.  The Iranians do not have the luxury of alternative options.  They have to put paid for good to Western power in the ME. They know very well that if they don’t, we’ll be back for more later.

The RT comparison fails another way too, on the all important PR side.

We talk grandly of “the West” or “the US” or “Brussels” as if we’re looking at monolithic entities.  We’re looking at no such thing of course.  We’re looking at a relatively small coterie of politicians, interest groups, and factions in control of the political, administrative and military power centres of the West.

That control goes for nothing unless those various Western politicians gain the acquiescence, if not the support, of the masses of people they are governing.   That can only be done by ensuring the climate of opinion is in their favour.

In the case of the Ukrainian war that was ensured.  A vanishingly small number of people in the various Western electorates knew what the true position in Ukraine was.  We most of us believed, and still believe, that that war resulted from a Russian dictator seizing the chance to re-establish the old Soviet or Tsarist empire.  There were none I knew, England or Germany, who believed otherwise.  There were none I knew who did not believe we should therefore be resisting that Russian dictator with all our might.  The coterie of Western politicians therefore had the enthusiastic support of the greater part of the various populations they governed.

Not so in the case of the Iranian war.  When it came to the preliminaries to the two wars, very few of us knew, as one example, of the ultra atrocities during the ATO.  Unless you kept away from the screens entirely, all of us knew of the atrocities in Gaza.  When it came to the start of those wars, few of us knew of the true position on the LoC in February ’22.  In ’26 all of us knew  that the West had mounted a violent attack on Iran during peace negotiations.

The PR climate is therefore entirely different in the two cases and whereas in ’22, most of us were clamouring for the Russians to be hit with all we had, in ’26 many (including a component of Trump’s MAGA base) are dead against the Iranian war.  There is also increasing concern across all the electorates of the West about the resources we are putting into that war and about the economic blowback on us.

For though the politicians and interest groups pay no attention to whether we are fighting a “just war” or not, most ordinary members of the public do.  In ’22 we believed, almost all of us, that we were fighting a just war against the Russians.  Now, few believe we are fighting a just war against the Iranians.  It is that alteration in the PR climate that renders it inevitable that if they hold steady, the Iranians will win.  I suppose the Iranians could always end up inhabiting a radioactive wasteland, but that itself would be no victory for our elites.

Is that true? Isn’t the PR machine in the West in override to change that picture?

Comments

“Derivative instruments” are also sort of hedges amongst the “monied class” so to speak, but they will also break down or cause the breakdown of fiscal systems not backed up by physical goods – when they get triggered and the insurance company has no means to make payment.
 
Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 29 2026 21:10 utc | 830
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I used to think that derivatives, like put and call options, were the Devil’s work and ought to be banned.
 
I realize now that some of them actually make sense.
For instance, an airline company can buy call options based on the price of jet fuel, so that if it rises they can recoup some of their losses.
 
The rest of them (derivatives) are just scams in the casino.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 29 2026 22:13 utc | 801

This just in: my oil price thing (https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/) finally woke up after sleeping most of the weekend:

  • WTI: $102.65
  • Brent: $115.58

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 29 2026 22:16 utc | 802

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 29 2026 22:13 utc | 831
Like everything “terminology” is important – semantics and whatnot.  Fact of the matter though seems the derivative instruments are wound up in a web based on some assumptions – and with the conflagration in Iran those assumptions are likely to prove fallacious – and truly – when the insurance can’t pay, then fiscal chaos ensues.
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That is why as I put forth above – tis critical if not essential for “currency” to be backed up physically – otherwise tis just imagination – and you must know how quick minds change – and that is a vulnerability – and now when NYC Real Estate entities are in the “not so white house” – this vulnerability turns into the potential for the end of the us of a….
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It could be time for some splittin up…cause when debts ain’t paid – all chaos quickly breaks out – so one would be advised to get some chickens.  Not kidding around.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 29 2026 22:41 utc | 803

ps – thanks for that link….

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 29 2026 22:44 utc | 804

Wellll, the point I was trying to make is that derivatives are reasonable when the bet being made (because they are all bets) has something to do with the interests of the bettor, like the airline/jet fuel example I gave. The airline company has a vital interest in the price of jet fuel.
 
Not so much when the bettor is just someone who’s trying to make a killing in the casino betting on something that has nothing whatsoever to do with them, just like betting on a horse race or a basketball game.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 29 2026 23:18 utc | 805

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 29 2026 23:18 utc | 835
Don’t get me wrong – any prudent airline would have some “bets” to insure cheaper fuel – but the thing is – as I already said – if the bets can’t be “paid off” – then all bets are off – and chaos ensues.  I sort of think we are saying the same thing.
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Posted by: Ken Hausle | Mar 29 2026 23:27 utc | 806

You’re describing a worst-case scenario where everything melts down.
I’m not. We’re not there yet.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 29 2026 23:39 utc | 807

Posted by: Surferket | Mar 29 2026 11:41 utc | 688
 
I’m aware of that, but Renminbi I understand is a direct translation of ‘the people’s currency’ which is what I was asking about. Ren min 人民 being often used in many CPC government departments.
“The people,” or renmin, was broadly defined in the early years of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). At their 2nd National Congress in 1922, it included the proletariat, peasants, and even the bourgeoisie.” https://chinamediaproject.org/the_ccp_dictionary/the-people/

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Mar 30 2026 1:32 utc | 808

Where are all the people who were filling the streets in Amman and Istanbul  protesting the genocide in Gaza? 
Why aren’t they protesting their nation’s support of the attacks on Iran?  Why aren’t the people in Jordan,  Saudi, UAE, Kuwait protesting their nation’s support of the US-Israel attacks, like the Bahrainis are doing (and dying for)?
 
  I see more protests of the war in the US and even Israel than in the Sunni nations
  I hear silence from Sunni commentators or lukewarm protests conditioned with criticism of Iran’s alleged religious crimes, with complete silence on israels attacks on Lebanon and potential anexxation of South Lebanon.
 
The Zionists efforts to divide and turn Muslims upon each other has succeeded, and the Sunni allies will regret it,  just as their alliance with the British against the Turkish brothers led to the loss of Palestine and or Arab dignity.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Mar 30 2026 3:31 utc | 809

I hope that I’m not included in this large “we” group who initially favored our involvement in the Ukraine war.

Posted by: Tim Pallies | Mar 30 2026 11:09 utc | 810