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February 4, 2026
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2026-031
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Posted by: unimperator | Feb 6 2026 18:41 utc | 498 Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 19:00 utc | 502 beat me to it. thats the gold in that record. Posted by: Not Ewe | Feb 6 2026 19:05 utc | 503
Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 19:20 utc | 504 I see in the mainstream media that there is a fuss in the USA over the Trump administration producing a cartoon which reportedly depicts the Obamas as monkeys. Seems poopie the Presitrump is in it as “King of the Jungle”. Posted by: Cynic | Feb 6 2026 19:21 utc | 505
Posted by: steven t johnson | Feb 6 2026 19:23 utc | 506 Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 19:20 utc | 504 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 6 2026 19:23 utc | 507
That is an ill-chosen screen name! No genuine cynic would ever believe that a woman who slept with men of other races was ever anything but an asset, a hired prostitute, not a trusted leader setting policy and carrying out major projects for national security (as that kind thinks of it.) Also, no genuine cynic would ever believe that Trump disliked the Obamas because of the kill lists or even disapproved of the Jakarta method. Indonesia 1965 was a victory for the likes of Trump, instead of a losing forever war. Trump is not anti-war, he’s anti-losing. And any genuine cynic knows people who talk anti-imperialist are quite capable of pretending being anti-losing is all about being anti-war. Posted by: steven t johnson | Feb 6 2026 19:29 utc | 509 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 6 2026 19:21 utc | 505 PS My notion of the Nobel Peace Prize for Obama is, electing a Black man president made it so much easier to pretend the US was a force of good, instead of being the war chief of imperialism. Good PR, like Johnson promoting the end of Jim Crow while fighting Communism like a mad dog. Posted by: steven t johnson | Feb 6 2026 19:33 utc | 510 From my favorite Wagner officer,
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 6 2026 19:35 utc | 511 No genuine cynic would ever believe that a woman who slept with men of other races was ever anything but an asset, a hired prostitute, not a trusted leader setting policy and carrying out major projects for national security (as that kind thinks of it.) Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 6 2026 19:38 utc | 512 Now ZH is telling jokes as this Premium posting title tells Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 6 2026 19:50 utc | 513
Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 19:51 utc | 514 So, on one hand, The Post (2017), Spielberg’s historical drama, is all about the Washington Post stepping up in 1971 to publish the Pentagon Papers. You’ve got Katharine Graham (Meryl Streep) and Ben Bradlee (Tom Hanks) taking huge risks to go against Nixon’s administration, exposing decades of government lies about the Vietnam War. The film makes it feel intense—fast-paced newsroom scenes, John Williams’ score, and that constant tension of “will they get shut down or worse?”—and it really frames the press as a check on power. Graham’s arc is especially compelling: she starts off hesitant, socially awkward, and ends up making the bold call to publish, while Bradlee’s the classic editor who pushes everyone to prioritize truth over comfort. The Supreme Court victory at the end just cements the idea that the press is essential to democracy. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 19:56 utc | 515 One more for the road…. Posted by: denk | Feb 6 2026 19:57 utc | 516 Bitcoin only exists as data on readable storage media. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 6 2026 20:12 utc | 517 ‘Panama’s president hits back after China threat in canal ports rowPresident Mulino responds to China, insists his country upholds the rule of law and and has an independent court system.’ Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 20:15 utc | 518 Equity markets rallied Friday as the Dow Jones Industrial Average crossed the 50,000 threshold for the first time ever. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 20:24 utc | 520 As someone who is genetically 3/8 Irish it pains me slightly to read various retarded statements here coming people of Irish descent. The common factor is they appear to live in North America. The 1/4 component of my makeup that is Polish is confused about this but my English matrilineal DNA smiles superciliously. Fortunately the remainder Scots DNA has no interest in der doodlesac. Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 20:25 utc | 521 re: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 20:25 utc | 521 Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 20:32 utc | 522 Sebgo @ 495: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Feb 6 2026 20:32 utc | 523 Sebgo @ 495: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Feb 6 2026 20:33 utc | 524 Sorry, didn’t mean to post twice but there were some hiccups in posting. Posted by: Refinnejenna | Feb 6 2026 20:34 utc | 525 Posted by: Not Ewe | Feb 6 2026 19:05 utc | 503 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 6 2026 20:42 utc | 526 Maybe neither here nor there but important nonetheless at least for our edification: Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 20:47 utc | 527 Bebas-aktif—literally “independent and active”—is Indonesia’s core foreign-policy doctrine, and it’s one of the most durable strategic ideas of the modern era. Formulated in 1945, it commits Indonesia to maintaining full freedom of maneuver (no permanent alliances, no foreign bases) while actively engaging the world to shape outcomes rather than passively reacting. That’s why, even in 2026, Indonesia can deepen defense cooperation with the US, welcome massive Chinese investment in nickel and EV supply chains, lead ASEAN diplomacy, and still refuse formal alignment without contradiction. Far from fence-sitting, bebas-aktif is a deliberate strategy of autonomy: extracting benefits from all sides, hedging against great-power rivalry, and avoiding entrapment in someone else’s geopolitical script—the same principle that has quietly guided Indonesia across regime change, the Cold War, and today’s US–China competition. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 20:54 utc | 528 Princess Bodica @518, 527, 528: Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 6 2026 21:34 utc | 529 TNA: Brian Berletic Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 6 2026 21:36 utc | 530 The world of physics is quite different to the world we see and feel. A different discipline and requires a different line of thought. The neon light and the plasma cutting torch that I used in my mates workshop ….. Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 6 2026 21:41 utc | 531 Syriana Analysis: ‘What Epstein Emails Reveal About Rothschild, Israel & Russia’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 6 2026 21:43 utc | 532 Posted by: MoaMetal | Feb 6 2026 12:52 utc | 403 Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 6 2026 21:45 utc | 533 “The king is the slave of history” (Tolstoy in War and Peace) – thinks he rules but is ruled Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 21:45 utc | 534 Uk police searches Mandelson’s properties after it was revealed that he was passing to Epstein some sensitive financial information in 2008 during the lead to the stocks crisis. Posted by: Tom | Feb 6 2026 21:52 utc | 535 The 6th of February is not only Bob Marley’ s birthday it is also the national day of my country, New Zealand – Waitangi Day. It’s an event that over its history has had a wide range of things happen. Here is some footage from yesterday*. For those who are interested in the broad range of views on matters vis a vis Maori – pakeha relations, I recommend reading the comments. Bear in mind though they are heavily weighted towards the retarded reactionary end of the political spectrum representive of maybe 20% of the population. But big enough and powerful enough for the dark forces of splitist politics to use. Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 21:59 utc | 536 Interesting. Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 6 2026 22:01 utc | 537 The State Department intends to fund analytical centers and charitable organizations across Europe associated with Trump’s MAGA movement to spread his political positions, reports the Financial Times, citing sources. Posted by: Jo | Feb 6 2026 22:16 utc | 538 Posted by: Jo | Feb 6 2026 22:16 utc | 538 Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 22:21 utc | 539 I believe Kassam is sincere but his backers use him: as a 2nd or 3rd generation Pakistani (?) immigrant, from East London, he is their guy to preach against mass immigration. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 22:26 utc | 540 Video of a WWI Enfield rifle with volley sights. I had never seen or heard of them before. Shooting at 3000 yards. He had the range spot on but was getting varying wind drift. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 6 2026 22:40 utc | 541 Trump-GOP Law Slashes Amazon’s Tax Bill by 87% as Company Fires 30,000 Workers, Profits Soar Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 22:40 utc | 542 The mystery surrounding the Melania film solved? Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 22:42 utc | 543 And finally for NZ Waitangi Day Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2026 22:43 utc | 544 Rare China L Panamanian Supreme Court orders the termination of contracts and ends China’s control of 2 ports in the Panama canal. It looks like doing nothing only works when no one tries to stop you. Ofc this to nothing and win approach is not a recipe for geopolitical success and anyone who thinks that it is us delusional. Posted by: Q II TRFN | Feb 6 2026 22:49 utc | 545 Female Czech composer Vítězslava Kaprálová Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 22:55 utc | 546 This came up the other day between MOA user @fnord and I. The Chomsky Epstein conundrum. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 6 2026 22:59 utc | 547 Bitcoin only exists as data on readable storage media. Nothing could possibly go wrong with that… Posted by: arby | Feb 6 2026 23:18 utc | 548 Take General Factotum. Posted by: arby | Feb 6 2026 23:27 utc | 549 Jo | Feb 6 2026 22:16 utc | 538 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 6 2026 23:27 utc | 550 Rare China L Panamanian Supreme Court orders the termination of contracts and ends China’s control of 2 ports in the Panama canal. It looks like doing nothing only works when no one tries to stop you. Ofc this to nothing and win approach is not a recipe for geopolitical success and anyone who thinks that it is us delusional. Posted by: arby | Feb 6 2026 23:34 utc | 551 Posted by: arby | Feb 6 2026 23:35 utc | 552 I have a feeling that Panama will deeply regret kicking China out of its contracts. Of course the president who made the decision will just move himself and his millions top Miami. Posted by: arby | Feb 6 2026 23:41 utc | 553 I have an unorthodox idea. What if Epstein spied for the US deep state? How else would he have been allowed to operate in the US for years? Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 23:56 utc | 554 The US Embassy in Poland announced that it would cut ties with Polish parliamentary speaker Wlodzimierz Czarzasty after he said that President Donald Trump did not deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 7 2026 0:02 utc | 555 Posted by: Refinnejenna | Feb 6 2026 20:32 utc | 523 Posted by: Sebgo | Feb 7 2026 0:03 utc | 556 You see as soon as somebody started circulating the rumor that Epstein worked for Russia, you can be pretty damn sure he worked for the US deep state. Even Trump would agree the deep state is all about Russia Russia Russia 🇷🇺 Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 7 2026 0:10 utc | 557 And that is why Trump is now working for the deep state. End of story. Peace out and see you soon. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 7 2026 0:14 utc | 558 Posted by: arby | Feb 6 2026 23:18 utc | 548 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2026 0:15 utc | 559 FYI–FYI– Posted by: Exile | Feb 6 2026 18:50 utc | 500 Posted by: Sebgo | Feb 7 2026 0:31 utc | 562 LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2026 0:28 utc | 560— Thousands gather in Libya for funeral of Saif al-Islam Gaddafi Killing of Saif Gaddafi removes alternative to Libya’s rival governments Death of former dictator’s son removes symbolic alternative to Libya’s entrenched political deadlock One of the entrenched candidates is UN supported. I would imagine that means the US’ UN, not China’s or Russia’s? Does it matter? Gaddafi’s father was a very independent thinker and actor on the world stage. He wasn’t a big fan of China at all. In fact, he slyly references China here in this brilliant speech before the UN: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=VXKBpycMvd0&t=33 [ https://youtu.be/VXKBpycMvd0?t=33 ] China never supported an African union nor would they today. Individual countries can shut up and get in line for BRICS. Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was way too honest about how the system works. He had to go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI China never minded, actually publicly expressing satisfaction at the prospect of ‘stability’ and the bright future prospects for Libya after Gadaffi’s murder. Russia did actually make very condemnatory statements at the time. But it’s not like they called for prosecutions and punishments! That’s not how the game works. That’s what Muammar Gaddafi was letting on. Posted by: Dan Kelly | Feb 7 2026 0:38 utc | 564 Live with it TDS sufferers: Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 7 2026 0:46 utc | 565 China has no power projection in that area of the world, it doesn’t make any sense to continue the deal and have the US take it anyways Posted by: 69 | Feb 7 2026 0:47 utc | 566
China Just Made This Unfixable for Israel Posted by: Friend_of_MLK | Feb 7 2026 0:54 utc | 567 Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 6 2026 23:56 utc | 554 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 7 2026 0:35 utc | 563 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2026 1:07 utc | 569 “watcher” seems unwilling to admit to the reality of what has been partly uncovered re Epstein activities ….. oh, but hardly any of them would rape, torture and kill small girls, for instance …. yet consideration of what the Western leadership (political and commercial) and its top servants knowingly inflicted on several entire countries — take Libya and Syria as examples — and especially on Gaza, proves beyond any doubt that they absolutely couldn’t care less about their own lies and infliction of extreme suffering and murder on hundreds of thousands of people. Posted by: Cynic | Feb 7 2026 1:25 utc | 570 karlof1 | Feb 7 2026 0:29 utc | 561 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 1:30 utc | 571 LoveDonbass | Feb 7 2026 1:07 utc | 569— An additional thought to my 571. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 1:35 utc | 573 Here are links to the three articles ‘Friend_of_MLK’ referenced: China labels Israeli-occupied lands as ‘high risk area,’ bans all new investments: Report https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/02/05/763573/China-Kibbutz-Hanita-Israel-Palestine-Gaza- The Chinese government bans all new investment in Israel https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/skeqnl08wg China labels Israel as ‘high risk area,’ bans all new investments: Report https://thecradle.co/articles-id/35786 These are all referencing the same $11 million dollar kibbutz ‘settler’ i.e. colonizer lawsuit that evidently has suddenly unearthed that the Chinese government actually essentially banned all investment in the genocidal entity since going back to Oct of 2023. China hasn’t out-and-out banned investment in the genocidal entity rather it has put it on its ‘red category’ which is high risk. It’s rather strange that something this important is coming out now when they themselves say it’s retroactive to Oct 2023. ‘According to a response letter from Ballet attached to the lawsuit, the Chinese government has classified Israeli-occupied lands as a “high-risk area” or “red category” due to the ongoing situation in the West Asia region, specifically since Oct. 7, 2023. “Since the outbreak of the fighting, the Chinese government has classified Israel as a high-risk zone (red category) and prohibited any new Chinese investment in the Israeli-occupied lands,” it said in the letter.’ Here and more often they talk about new investment in ‘Israeli-occupied lands’ without defining what exactly that means and where the line is. It is safe to assume, given that they use the words ‘Israel’ and ‘Israeli-occupied’ that they don’t mean all of occupied Palestine rather they mean perhaps just Gaza and the West Bank. None of this is clearly delineated. China still does a fair amount of business with ‘Israel’ though it’s essentially a pittance of China’s overall dealings worldwide. Posted by: Dan Kelly | Feb 7 2026 1:37 utc | 574 Friend_of_MLK @ 567: Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 7 2026 1:40 utc | 575 John Gilberts | Feb 6 2026 2:27 utc | 409— The YNet article says ‘all investment in the country’ a number of times so that would indicate the entire entity. Different audiences, different translations. Bizarre. Posted by: Dan Kelly | Feb 7 2026 1:42 utc | 577 Thanks John. From the article: ‘This incident occurs against the backdrop of evolving China-‘Israel’ relations, which have historically emphasized technology and infrastructure cooperation but faced strains due to geopolitical pressures. Bilateral trade has remained robust, exceeding $16 billion in recent years, with China continuing to invest in ‘Israeli’ sectors despite US concerns over technology transfers and national security. However, Beijing has implemented targeted restrictions elsewhere, such as banning US and ‘Israeli’ cybersecurity products for domestic use, citing national security risks.’ And again, no statement nor confirmation from the Chinese government on this. https://en.mehrnews.com/news/241427/China-bans-new-investments-in-Israel-for-fear-of-security Posted by: Dan Kelly | Feb 7 2026 1:46 utc | 578 Take General Factotum. He’s got so much data that he probably ran out of room some time ago. Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 1:46 utc | 579 General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 1:46 utc | 579 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 1:52 utc | 580 Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 1:35 utc | 573— I was sent this China Daily article by Dr. Hudson about Xi’s new book release as he was queried by the authors for his views. Note this doesn’t have anything to do with the recent publication of Xi Jinping’s speech on China’s financial system, although the two do coincide in their public appearance, which IMO isn’t accidental. @ General Factotum and Peter AU1 about keyboards…. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2026 2:09 utc | 583 For Juliania and Peter (and any others who may be interested in birds)… Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:13 utc | 584 I have trouble with spilling coffee and booze on my keyboard. … The one I’ve got now, I can strip it down and wash it under the tap. Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:32 utc | 585 General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:13 utc | 584 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 2:33 utc | 586 General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:32 utc | 585 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 2:37 utc | 587 I have two approaches currently, commercial Terro and home made borax/powdered sugarOther suggestions barflies? Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:38 utc | 588 Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 1:35 utc | 573 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 7 2026 2:43 utc | 589 Mostly starlings a few Asian minors here. Australasian Figbird Australasian Swamphen Australian King-Parrot Australian Magpie Australian Raven Bell Miner Black-faced Cuckooshrike Blue-faced Honeyeater Brown Thornbill Channel-billed Cuckoo Common Bronzewing Crimson Rosella Dollarbird Dusky Moorhen Eastern Rosella New Holland Honeyeater White-browed Scrubwren Eastern Spinebill Eastern Yellow Robin Eurasian Blackbird Eurasian Coot Galah Gang-gang Cockatoo Golden Whistler Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:48 utc | 590 Trump Calls For Country to ‘Move On’ From Epstein Files, as Scale And Scope of Criminals, Cover-Up Exposed Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 7 2026 2:50 utc | 591 591 corrected: Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 7 2026 2:54 utc | 592 I am watching the latest Danny Haiphong video with Larry Johnson and Col Wilkerson. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2026 2:59 utc | 593 Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:13 utc | 584
Posted by: juliania | Feb 7 2026 2:59 utc | 594 General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 2:32 utc | 585 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 3:04 utc | 595 Anyone interested in seeing and hearing the birds I listed… Cornell University runs a comprehensive site that has excellent images of birds around the world, as well as very good recordings of their calls: Posted by: General Factotum | Feb 7 2026 3:05 utc | 596 Peter AU1 | Feb 7 2026 3:04 utc | 595 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 7 2026 3:41 utc | 597 I didn’t know this….Whew!…from a ZH piece
Average rate on credit card accounts……Holy Shit……I pay mine off every month and so don’t follow….think about the amount of GDP is payments of credit card debt. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2026 3:42 utc | 598 Yo, Barflies. Hi, General. This comment is a long one and likely of no interest to casual readers, as it expounds in much detail on the last week’s back and forth involving me and the General, both topically and personally wise. I recommend to skip if you are not onside. Posted by: persiflo | Feb 7 2026 3:46 utc | 599 Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2026 2:09 utc | 583 Posted by: juliania | Feb 7 2026 3:47 utc | 600 |
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