Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 31, 2026
Zionist Distorts Arab Analysis As Arguing For Attack On Iran

U.S. President Donald Trump made a big mistake when he threatened war on Iran.

He was doing that to get concessions from Iran which the country is unable to make.

Trump asks for:

  1. a complete de-nuclearization of Iran,
  2. strong limits on its missile programs,
  3. the abolishment of Iranian support for regional allies like Hizbullah, Hamas and Shia militia in Iraq and Yemen and
  4. the recognition by Iran of Israel as a legitimate country.

Under the current system of Iran any politician who would argue for or agree to making any such concessions would immediately lose legitimacy.

Trump has made threats. He then set out conditions that guarantee that he will not get what he wants. He now has two choices:

  • To attack Iran until it concedes something.
  • To chicken out and recall his fleet from Iran.

Neither is a good choice:

Iran has announced to retaliate for any attack by massive missile launches against Israel and U.S. positions in the Middle East. Iran has also stated that it would close the Strait of Hormuz and thereby cause sky high global oil prices. This would likely lead to heavy losses for the Republicans in the mid term elections and would eventually end up with new impeachment procedures against Trump.

To chicken out would is also not be a good choice. By resisting a threat from Trump to then see the threat retracted without having made concessions Iran would have set an example that future targets of Trump’s extortion schemes would surely follow. It would make Iran look stronger and Trump look weaker.

I am by far not the only one who makes these points.

As Axios reports:

Saudi Defense Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman (KBS) said in a private briefing on Friday in Washington that if President Trump doesn’t follow through on his threats against Iran, the regime will end up stronger, four sources in the room tell Axios.

“At this point, if this doesn’t happen, it will only embolden the regime,” KBS said, according to the sources in the room.

In a separate briefing on Friday, a Gulf official said the region was “stuck” in a position where the U.S. striking Iran risked “bad outcomes,” but not doing so would mean “Iran will come out of this stronger.”

Prince Khalid bin Salman has a realist’s view and is right with this analysis.

The Axios reporter though, Barak Ravid, – well known to be a Zionist asset -, is trying to turn that realist view KBS uttered into a Saudi argument for bombing Iran:

Why it matters: This is a reversal from the public Saudi talking points cautioning against escalation and from the deep concern Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) expressed to Trump three weeks ago. That warning was one reason Trump decided to delay a strike.

No. The analysis KBS gave is not a reversal of the Saudi position. The Saudis are still cautioning against escalation. What KBS did there was to simply point out the calamity Trump has placed himself into.

To interpret that statement as a Saudi argument for an attack on Iran is a willful and distortion of what was said. It is a typical primitive attempt by a Zionist ideologue to ‘create a reality’ that does not exist.

Esfandyar Batmanghelidj @yarbatman – 10:39 UTC · Jan 31, 2026

I asked a senior Saudi official and Barak’s story mischaracterises KBS’s comments. There has been no reversal of Saudi policy.

KBS was stating the obvious when he said Trump not bombing Iran would embolden the regime. But the Saudis continue to urge caution and do not want war.

(Esfandyar Batmanghelidj is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). He is not a friend or promoter of the Islamic Republic.)

Comments

@Suresh | Jan 31 2026 22:50 utc | 177

Remember those “brain damaged” Americans sheltering in bunkers that wasn’t even targeted?

Yes, that was 2020, the base in Iraq after the US had murdered Soleimani.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 7:09 utc | 301

@GeorgeWendell | Jan 31 2026 22:53 utc | 179

Everbody paints the US as holding all the power over Iran, but what if Iran shifts to aggression mode and takes the upper hand?

Iran will not “shift to aggression mode”. If they are attacked, they will forcefully defend themselves. In my book that is not “aggression mode”.

I think US navy is now unproven and past technolgy and therefore vulnerable. Look at how it failed in the Red Sea even against a few Houthi hypersonics. A couple of F-35s already in Neptune’s locker rotting.

I have no knowledge of F-35s in Neptune’s locker, but otherwise agree completely.

Imagine if an aircraft carrier goes down. How will that be in the body bag intolerant US in the state it chaotic state itis currently in.

That would be the most public symbol of the Empire’s downfall. Are there forces in the US that would want it to happen?
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 7:15 utc | 302

@English Outsider | Jan 31 2026 23:07 utc | 184

He’d probably get that Nobel Peace Prize he’s been after if he bagged Ursula as well.

I think you give the Nobel Peace Prize committee too much credit.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 7:19 utc | 303

Are there forces in the US that would want it to happen?
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 7:15 utc | 302
 

 
As Jeffrey Epstein wrote in the newly released files “let the goyim deal in the real world” ==> https://youtu.be/gPSTV_YszvA
 

Posted by: too scents | Feb 1 2026 7:24 utc | 304

Posted by: rageman | Feb 1 2026 5:53 utc | 295
 
#####
 
Tell me more about how great Ukraine is doing. Tell me about how the heating in Kiev is tonight. Tell me about how much territory they have lost.
 
Tell me about how they had all of NATO at their backs and billions in funding, plus American ISR, and they have been losing non-stop.
 
Yeah, Putin is not competent. You guys are clowns.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 7:38 utc | 305

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 5:47 utc | 293
 
An excellent synopsis of the state of affairs. Thanks, I can only agree with all you have said. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Feb 1 2026 8:00 utc | 306

 
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/36474
Reminder 
Trump’s tweet one hour before Israel attack on Iran on June 13: “We are committed to a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear issue. My entire administration has been instructed to advance negotiations with Iran.”
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 1 2026 8:31 utc | 307

It is now in the Western media that Iran will negotiate. Possibly the will agree not to build an atomic bomb – wich has a fatwah (a religious ban) of the Ayatollah already.
So Trump can declare Victory and joy and peace (or piece) and move on to the next episode of the Fast and Furious Donals J. Trump show.

Posted by: Johann Siegfried von Oberndorf | Feb 1 2026 8:35 utc | 308

@Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2026 2:47 utc | 263

This is why Iran must obtain nuclear weapons as soon as possible.

You mean to defend themselves against the Americans they must become like the Americans.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 8:38 utc | 309

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/36474Reminder Trump’s tweet one hour before Israel attack on Iran on June 13: “We are committed to a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear issue. My entire administration has been instructed to advance negotiations with Iran.” 
Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 1 2026 8:31 utc | 307
 
 
Yes, when there are negotiations, normally there will follow an attack. But here is in a pickle. And he did not attack Greenland. It would have been bad optics as the Midterms are approaching.
 
So he is begging for a deal. I think that the religious leaders of Iran think of the consequences of an escalation, possibly a nuclear attack of Israel. So they will make a deal which not hurts anybody.
 
The US empire is on the decline, why intrude when the enemy is destroying himself?
 
 

Posted by: Johann Siegfried von Oberndorf | Feb 1 2026 8:46 utc | 310

Posted by: Bingo | Jan 31 2026 19:36 utc | 103
 
The dragon is breathing fire.
 
This will be a direct threat to America
 
<= agree… .
 
 
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2026 2:21 utc | 253I think the entire Iran war distraction is there to help izzrael complete the Gaza Holocaust.<= Maybe that was only a part of the exercise.. Global resistance to Empire intentions may stop the other parts.
 
 
Sergei Glezyev introduced a term “TNC” transnational capital.. p. 130 of 501 in his book..
TNC a supra national(floats above the nation state system) politically savvy, financially wealthy class persons with global wealth who invest globally and use geopolitical power to both secure their investments and to improve their return on investment.
 
Glezyev says they live in the USA, but I think they live in Israel, China, Russia, NATO nations and most western controlled satellite nations (federal reserve and city of London, and network of Central banks come to mind). Investment, political leadership, national economies and legal systems are all of their designs. They are the globalist; their operations are independent of national politics everywhere but internally they operate as a democratic political body.
 
I think this is a start toward understanding who is actually in charge of establishing, maintaining and overseeing between and within nation chaos. When and where the TNC feels like it, it can target, use and extract for profit the resources of any nation.
 
 
Sergei Glezyev suggest the army supporting this group might be made up of CIA, Mossad, M-16 and other NATO nation secret services.. all of these people operate invincibly outside of the law..

Posted by: snake | Feb 1 2026 9:27 utc | 311

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 7:15 utc | 302
 
Thanks for your reply. Have a look at my post –  GeorgeWendell | Feb 1 2026 0:39 utc | 208  – where I clarify what I meant by aggression from Iran with Karlof1.
 
The F-35 belonged to Britain and happened in the Mediterranean in November 2021. My memory failed me on that one (I should have checked it first) and you are correct to point out that I got that wrong as far as it being a US -owned fighter jet. There were two separate incidents last year however which are the ones I was thinking about involving two F/A 18 Super Hornets. With one, evasive action was taken by the USS Harry Truman due to Houthi missiles and it rolled off the deck. The second one was due to maneuver failure during landing. All references below.
 
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/after-f-35-now-f-a-18-super-hornet-plunges/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq808gkn597o
 
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Feb 1 2026 9:28 utc | 312

You mean to defend themselves against the Americans they must become like the Americans.
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 8:38 utc | 309
 
Well, they’ve picked up hugely destructive missiles.
 
In that sense haven’t they “become like the Americans”?
 
Just because you arm yourself against an enemy doesn’t mean you become him.
 
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2026 9:50 utc | 313

“Trump issues ultimatum to Cuba as humanitarian crisis looms
 Things are looking “very bad” for the Caribbean nation now that it has lost access to Venezuelan oil, the US president has said”
 
Things are looking bad. A humanitarian crisis in Cuba Trump feels sorry about that he caused all by himself. The usual lack of logic in that one.
 
Seems we are off on the next distraction smoke screen. 
 
https://www.rt.com/news/631820-trump-us-cuba-oil/

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Feb 1 2026 10:01 utc | 314

I’m happy, b, that you saw what the real position of Arab Gulf states is wrt America as Israel’s proxy vs. Iran.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 1 2026 10:07 utc | 315

“I’m happy, b, that you saw what the real position of Arab Gulf states is wrt America as Israel’s proxy vs. Iran.”
@Johan Kaspar | Feb 1 2026 10:07 utc | 315
I didnt read that into B’s statement about the Saudi’s view
In my view Israel is and always was just a protection racket created for the anglosaxon’s to control banking. So the bankers could never be international but always anglosaxon dependents. Without it the so called international bankers would have been less tied to the anglosaxon’s empire. That is why the British were so eager to create it some fifty years before Theodor Herzl was coopted. I guess you Johan still havent heard about that?

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 1 2026 10:21 utc | 316

Norwegian | Feb 1 2026 8:38 utc | 309
 
“You mean to defend themselves against the Americans they must become like the Americans.”
 
No, it’s called self-defense. Ask North Korea how it works. 
 
You cultists here really are bizarre with your casuistry and terminology like, “Out Satan! That’s WESTERN THINKING!” Usually whatever it is, like self-defense in this case, is perfectly regular, common-sense, universal thinking.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 1 2026 10:39 utc | 317

Se spune că istoria se repetă, dar cu actori diferiți. Actori proști care nu au învățat lecțiile istoriei. Toate statele evreiești au rezistat 100 de ani și apoi s-au prăbușit pentru că se credeau agresorii supremi. Imperiul Roman s-a prăbușit în 468, când flota combinată a Occidentului și a Orientului, care avea cea mai impresionantă forță de invazie (până la invaziile japoneze din Coreea), a fost învinsă de vizigoți la Capul Bon. Astfel, Imperiul Roman a căzut când și-a pierdut supremația maritimă, care a asigurat conservarea comerțului și a economiei. Astăzi, Iranul joacă rolul vizigoților în conflictul cu Israelul și America, vasalul său. Paradoxul este că, în vremurile străvechi, iranienii din Imperiul Persan Achemenid i-au salvat pe evrei de distrugerea etnică, culturală și religioasă. Imperiul Persan le-a permis să se întoarcă din Babilonia, Asiria în Palestina. Perșii și-au reconstruit Templul, iar evreii, în semn de recunoștință, s-au aliat întotdeauna cu dușmanii perșilor: macedoneni, romani, otomani, ruși, americani. Dar există soartă, Karma sau, cum se spune, „nu-L mânia pe Dumnezeu!”
Există un serial coreean pe Netflix… „Karma”, păcat că Bibi și Păpușa Trump nu l-au văzut…

Posted by: surena | Feb 1 2026 10:42 utc | 318

@surena | Feb 1 2026 10:42 utc | 318
You too like so many see the US as Israel’s vassal. The anglosaxons totally dominate all opinion making in the world so it is possible to lead everybody by the nose telling them the tail wags the dog. The reality is different however.Economic facts rule. Thus jews much involved in economy have an impact but only beacuse they understand the economical realities. It doesnt mean they have power beyond that.
Otherwise I appreciate your historical background about the fall of Rome.
BTW in Rome too jews were employed in banking. I believe the jews have been chosen for that task because the jews are weak. Israel for the purpose of being part of a British Protection Racket was therefore intended to remain dependent on British Imperial Protection. Most of you dont seem to understand that simple aspect.
Its all about the anglosaxons!

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 1 2026 11:08 utc | 319

A better proposal:

  1. a complete de-nuclearization of Israel,
  2. strong limits on its missile programs,
  3. the abolishment of Israeli support for regional allies like Hizbullah, Hamas and Shia militia in Iraq and Yemen and
  4. the recognition by Israel of Iran as a legitimate country.

Posted by: Cycling Nut | Feb 1 2026 11:15 utc | 320

petergrfstrm 319
 
I feel about as protected by Kier Starmer as by a Sufi ceramic eye 👁. 

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 1 2026 12:05 utc | 321

Washington’s closest Gulf allies – Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates – have said they will not permit their territory or airspace to be used for US military action against Iran.
 
Posted by: Princess Bodica | Feb 1 2026 4:19 utc | 283

 
It’s annoying to see this piece of mendacious crap reposted. For one thing, if the USA wishes to use UAE and KSA territory and airspace for an attack on Iran, UAE and KSA can’t prevent it. For another, they desire Iran’s elimination and would go along not unwillingly.
 
This is just hypocritical preemptive ass-covering.
 

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 1 2026 12:06 utc | 322

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 1 2026 10:21 utc | 316
I didnt read that into B’s statement about the Saudi’s view

 
This is because you don’t remember b’s post of Jan 15th. But nevermind.
 

In my view Israel is and always was just a protection racket created for the anglosaxon’s to control banking.

 
There is some truth in that but it is not the whole truth. The relation between Anglo and Jew is much more complex and profound.
But I agree with you that Anglo is above Jew in that relation. Of course. Anglo is a major and successful race of humanity while Jews are at best a small symbiont of Anglo.
Nevertheless, in the case of the Middle East and the Israeli state, which is just one major aspect of their relation, it is the Jews asking America to be their proxy against Iran.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 1 2026 12:08 utc | 323

 malenkov | Feb 1 2026 12:06 utc | 322
 
Correct. There is a looonnnggg track record of behavior that supports your assertion. The gulf states are weak, their leaders are “survivors” with a long tradition, like Erdogan, of horse-trading their way to continued comfort and status.
 
And of course, Iran knows all that, and has made it clear that if these same Gulf states cooperate with the US, they will become targets, and those targets will get hit, and the horse-traders will have much less useful possessions thereafter, and the selective re-opening of the Hormuz straits will be sequenced accordingly.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 12:17 utc | 324

The critical thing to me is, can Iran build out antiship missiles such as the Chinese have?  A public demo might be enough to deter the US.  If otherwise, destroying an aircraft carrier would benefit world peace by discouraging US projection of power.  
I don’t quite see why Trump can’t simply drop the whole thing and move on to something else. Down to this day, I marvel at how the US left Afghanistan in humiliation and it was no big deal, quickly forgotten as if they didn’t lose the longest war in US history to a group of boy raping goat herders.  And given the new Epstein revelations, how could Israel/Mossad pressure Trump into doing anything, blackmail-wise?  The cats out of the bag on that one. Time to start using ground penetrating radar on some golf courses to find bodies, if Democrat leaning prosecutors can get the warrants.

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 1 2026 12:26 utc | 325

Is Iran waiting for team USA to acquire hypersonic missiles before executing a pre-emptive closure of the straits.
 
I note the successful ICBM test by Iran but no idea of accuracy.

Posted by: necromancer | Feb 1 2026 12:43 utc | 326

@Johan Kaspar | Feb 1 2026 12:08 utc | 323 and petergrfstrm up-thread of Johan’s remarks.
Johan said:

Nevertheless, in the case of the Middle East and the Israeli state, which is just one major aspect of their relation, it is the Jews asking America to be their proxy against Iran.

Johan, the Jews aren’t “asking”. They have the US in a head-lock politically, and are forcing  us to do many things which are not in our general-public’s interest.
 
In the US, at the moment, the Jews are ascendant, top of the social order. They have the money (both theirs, and ours via control of money supply), they control the media, own many of the biggest commercial entities, and because of money and media control, also control our government.  All of it. Repeat: All of it.
 
None of this was an accident. This has been carefully planned and brilliantly executed over many decades.
 
The Christian Zionists, the Jewish Zionists,  the Oligarchs – secular or not –  and the behind the scenes dynasties that rule the West are different factions with basically the same mentality: “we  rule over the little people”.
 
They think like, are composed of, the characters that are being revealed via the Epstein episode. This is one of the most important aspect of the Epstein debacle: it shows us (to some degree, certainly not wholly) who and (definitely) what they are, and – very, very emphatically – what they actually think about the rest of us.
 
Consider how pervasively all aspects and sub-groups of the “leaders” are involved with Epstein. The list is a veritable who’s-who of our putative “leadership”. That list is who they actually are. Can you think of any sub-group of the “leaders” that’s not present in the Pantheon of Epstein? Recall that the sex aspects are only a side-show, the “entertainment” division of the behind-the-scenes dark-money distribution system.
 
The remaining question for the West is “how do we get out from under this anvil that’s sitting on our collective chest?”. That’s – for all its many faults – that’s the value of MAGA. People are finally starting to realize just how awful a position we’re in, and how hard it’s going to be to right this ship. 
 
I note that we often caution Mr. Putin, the Iranians, etc. to understand that “they’re not agreement capable”. We US-Americans need to reflect on that. Our social contract – the Constitution, our societal behavioral norms are under withering attack now, and the attackers are these same Divine Right of Kings type people. 
 
Fortunately, there are signs – many signs – of awakening here in the US, and more hardship and disillusionment arrives daily, and that tends to help the process of awakening.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 12:43 utc | 327

And lest the reader get the impression that I’m saying “it’s all the Jew’s fault” – oh, no, not at all. The full gamut of Western top-of-social-order players are on-board, with just a few exceptions. These “global” “leaders” have bought or control or have replaced anyone standing in their way. That’s why people fight over political ascendancy: so they can be the one to dispense the resources, and thereby control  everyone else’s behavior.
 
That’s why we captive-Westerners do wars with those countries whose societies, to use that ugly phrase, “haven’t bent the knee”. Our Western social order isn’t threatened from within, only from without.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 12:57 utc | 328

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 12:43 utc | 327
 
 I agree with everything you have said except the idea that  MAGA might save us somehow,
Trump is a Zionist and a “hidden jew”, not about to save you from Zionism.

Posted by: qparker | Feb 1 2026 12:58 utc | 329

History repeats by chiming.
 
The neo-crusaders, just like the original ones a thousand years ago, are meeting the same fate.
 
A few decades after the khazar empire was dismantled, by the coming together of its Slav and other victims of EurAsia; the exiled dynast petty Caesars – used ‘their’ Holy Roman Empire to lick their wounds and come up with their new Master Plan of World Domination.
 
They set their ‘European’ minions upon the task of retaking their Khazarian Empire, destroying the ‘Russians’ and as a starter, taking the Levant as it was the crossroads of the World.
 
The Crusaders.
 
They built some castles, learnt some esoteric knowledge, became expert at money and banking like their Masters; from that knowledge and built more castles across Europe… Ultimately these usurper crusaders who came back with ideas of their own were cut down by their own ‘kin’ – Friday the Thirteenth was when that happened across the whole of ‘Europe’

Anyway the crusades didn’t last too long, due to lack of men, power and logistics! And the Resistance. 
 
Saladin did that a thousand years ago. The kith and kin of Saladin : Solemani, Nusrallha, the Palestinian babies, children, women and men who refuse to be exterminated are leading the Resistance yet again at great cost.
 
Saladin a thousand years ago brought together native Peoples against the Khazars Crusaders:
 
‘They mustered from every part ; Turks, Kurds, Syrians, Arabs, Alans, Cumans, Qipchaks, Idumaens, Turcomans, Bedouins, Saracens, Egyptians, and those who dwell in the land of Lebanon…’

The Ancient Human Civilsations themselves are joining against the World Owning Obsessed Khazar shapeshifters and their satraps.
 
Their castles in the sands, the glass houses of the gulf monarchies; that absurd new US Embassy in Lebanon!
 
All will crumble under the hypersonic hammers.
 
The new Saladin’s are many and those they represent even more of Humanity against the few Khazarian Imperialists with their bloodthirsty old human sacrificial religion. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 1 2026 12:58 utc | 330

Then will come Depression stage.
Posted by: Asian Frog | Feb 1 2026 1:23 utc | 223
 
A significant number of Americans hit the depression stage – emotionally and financially – years ago. Sadly, many Americans are so brainwashed and ignorant that they will vote for a democrat promising to get whitey and unlock all of whitey’s riches for gay black people or something or a fresh, new, clean republican face full of lies.
 
Capitalism gone wild and developed into oligarchic tyranny that is driving Americans into poverty is the problem. The US needs to focus inward with a massive, massive employment program and New Deal that would scare Roosevelt’s “bright young socialists”. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 1 2026 13:44 utc | 331

Ha hah!
The Dumbass Yankees seem to have “forgotten” that the Iranian Navy is equipped with Soviet era Shkval rocket-propelled torpedoes. According to Wiki, Shkval is capable of travelling at 200+ mph for up to 10 miles.
 
I first heard of these on Oz TV News more than 10 years ago. I looked up High Speed Torpedoes on the www at the time and the info I found said that Germany had similar gizmos.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2026 14:15 utc | 332

If the Orangutan attacks he will find himself in a full-fledged major war he does not want. Iran has the courage to stare him down.
If he does not carry out his threats he will lose face and Iran will accumulate significant power from having successfully confronted the biggest imperialist power in human history.
That sounds like a master chess maneuver that has left the opponent two bad choices. You can say- you move, you lose! Go Iran, Go!

Posted by: Al | Feb 1 2026 15:08 utc | 333

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 1 2026 10:39 utc | 317
 
#######
 
Mass destruction and mass murder are Western Imperial thinking.
 
That’s not Russian, Chinese, or Persian thinking.
 
It’s all moot.
 
Iran doesn’t have nukes and Iran is still standing. Every single day is a refutation of the “gotta have nukes” hypothesis.
 
Except America, no one else has used nukes.
 
And no Axis country wants to swap places with America today.
 
The only use for nukes are to end the world. They are not a battlefield weapon. They are like a bomb vest wrapped around the world.
 
No one wins in a suicide bomber competition.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 15:44 utc | 334

I first heard of these on Oz TV News more than 10 years ago. I looked up High Speed Torpedoes on the www at the time and the info I found said that Germany had similar gizmos.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2026 14:15 utc | 333

 
researched and offered but never went into production :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superkavitierender_Unterwasserlaufk%C3%B6rper

Posted by: MAKK | Feb 1 2026 15:52 utc | 335

Fortunately, there are signs – many signs – of awakening here in the US
 
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 12:57 utc | 328
 

 
The mill will run out of grist first.
 

Posted by: too scents | Feb 1 2026 15:56 utc | 336

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 12:43 utc | 327
 
None of this was an accident. This has been carefully planned and brilliantly executed over many decades.The remaining question for the West is “how do we get out from under this anvil that’s sitting on our collective chest?”
 
I think we download read and memorize The last war “the USA to move and lose” by Sergei Glezyev..
 
https://thesilverindustry.substack.com/p/free-copy-magnificent-manuscript posted On MOA
beginning about page 160 it explains how this mind control works.. ?
 

Posted by: snake | Feb 1 2026 16:32 utc | 337

Israel is taking a huge risk. Already a score of israelis with dual nationalities are leaving. If Israel is attacked and bombed more will be tempted to go for safety.
Then if Iran is not totally incapacitated, on medium term Iran will rebuild its military power and threaten Israel again. 
Iran is not Gaza and the Iranian army is not hamas, that is the arrogance and assurance of the USA support that mages Netanyahu believe that.
Netanyahu and Zelinski share the same illusion that with the USA on their  side total victory is possible! 

Posted by: Virgile | Feb 1 2026 17:45 utc | 338

The US needs to focus inward…a New Deal..Roosevelt
 – Saint Jimmy  332

 
So true, didn’t know you had it in you.
 
Subsidize Workers, not tax deductions for disloyal shell companies.  Minimum 5.75% guaranteed savings with the interest not being taxed..incentivize thrift for people with meaningful jobs/skills, those people who don’t have time to play financial shenanigans all day long because they are busy WORKING!!!   Create industrious-zones for skilled/apprenticing worker who are masters of machinery.  And adjacent, neighborhoods with good-subsidized-housing. While demanding that people work…make work worthwhile and safe.  People used to be proud of what they MADE , proud of their work, far too few Americans have a chance to do something meaningful, they sit in their mothers basement apartments and play video games and wonder why they’re so effing miserable.
 
Look at all those shuttered rustbelt factories dotted throughout towns in the Great-Lakes/Mississippi/Missouri Basin.  Carefully breakdown those factory’s bricks for reuse, melt-down those rotting steel support structures and build buildings anew.  Those are all good places to live, picturesque, good outdoor activities within blocks of your home, you don’t need cities to have culture, communities can create culture with decent schooling and a community college to provide city-style venues for the visual-arts/performing-art/sports/science/library.  Think outside the 19th century box, cover/heat the main roads, serious mosquito abatement through CO2/pheromone traps throughout neighborhoods and parks; where a water feature isn’t present, build a lake/lakes. When I was a kid I helped a farmer build a two acre lake and landscape for his wife’s enjoyment with just his tractor, one man, one boy, two week,s start to finish, surely a crew with modern earth moving equipment could build a lake fit for a city park in a month? Build it and they will come, subsidize industries by subsidizing workers, their housing, their community.  All the transport infrastructure/right of ways are already in place…just waiting for a renaissance.
 
Where do you get the money?  Make Software/Pharma[really-biochem]/Finance pay their taxes from their usurious schemes.  No more private-jets impersonating as a “corporation’s-jet” you want the comfort and convenience?  That’s fine, you pay for it, not working stiffs picking up the tab for your “tax-deduction”….same for yachts/moorage/hanger fees/cars et al.  The tax revenue needed is in the trillions of yearly deductions, all of those “subsidies” are written into law and immediately disappears from the budget.  Any “industry”-support should be a direct subsidy, that way it stays as a line on the budget where it can be tracked. 
 
Shorter message, return to FDRism…give the Taftian-GOPers/Woodrow-Wilsonian-gilded-age-Dinos the boot, return to what works for America, for Americans.

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 1 2026 17:51 utc | 339

@qparker | Feb 1 2026 12:58 utc | 329:
I agree that Trump is owned by Zionist, et. al, and that MAGA as currently implemented is … not likely to make much difference.
 
MAGA as a concept? That’s different.
 
A lot of US citizens realize we’re way off-track, that we’re run by malignant leadership, that we’re divided, under-resourced, and need major reconstruction. MoA is replete with such people, and US has many tens of millions of such. 
 
Those people are, indeed, waking up. I see it, hear it, all around me, and I’m not soliciting it nor seeking it out. It’s very definitely there. That force is going to evolve into a something-new once Trumpism runs its course, which may be any time now.
 
tooscents: you may be right. The “mill” – I take that to mean the Ops Control Sys currently running the West … is going to run out of  (other people’s) resources, and will therefore fail internally (turn on itself; isn’t that what gangs do when there’s fewer marks to exploit?)
 
If that’s what you’re meaning by “run out of grist”, I agree: after all, that’s what the Empire is frenetically trying to avoid with all the Empire-Thugs-R-Us actions we’ve seen in the past five years.
 
And Snake: that book looks like it hits the high spots in terms of “where we are, how we got here”. It’s time to write the next book: “Jail Break: Living Large Post-Incarceration”. 
 
🙂
 
Just  kiddin’.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 18:08 utc | 340

karlof1 183
 
Putin is pro- the remnants of Lefty Israel, which is still Zionism, Jewish Nationalism.
Although he and his deep state urgently want  to retain Russia’s Syrian bases, Nationalism is what Russia is fighting against in Ukraine ,  as deliberately engineered by Nato, and Socialist ideology, even in Israel, opposes Nationalism.
 
What is the benefit of protecting the citizens of one country at the expense of another ‘s?
Hence I suspect there is a significant ideological incompatibility between Putin’s support for Zionism and China’s underlying, socialist principles.
 
If so, Russia might support Jewlani,  and China might support Palestine and Iran, or China might close trade ties  ( edicts ) from Zionists which up to now they have allowed.
 
An ideological rift between Russia and China won’t end up sleeping in separate bedrooms, but their Foreign policies might agree to differ about Jewish Nationslism.
Nothing about Zionism could be described as  ‘win – win’ .

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 1 2026 18:51 utc | 341

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 1 2026 17:51 utc | 341
 
I’m essentially a socialist at heart. I always have been. I have no idea WHAT you assumed about me. I would cut the war budget in half. I would go farther than your suggestions – national health care, a national pension system, universal income, and a massive effort to employ every able CITIZEN with at least a living wage.
 
I am anti-imperialist and anti-illegal immigration. I also do not favor preferences for any group. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 1 2026 19:52 utc | 342

The only use for nukes are to end the world. They are not a battlefield weapon. They are like a bomb vest wrapped around the world. No one wins in a suicide bomber competition.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 15:44 utc | 336
 
 
This is based on false beliefs.  The US and Russia have combined thousands of live nuclear tests and we are all still here.  What a miracle.  Wake yourself up from the condition your in. 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Feb 1 2026 21:28 utc | 343

Wake yourself up from the condition your  you’re in. 
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Feb 1 2026 21:28 utc | 345
 
Absolutely. Nukes are SO kewl! We should use them far more often. (eye roll)

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 1 2026 21:35 utc | 344

Shooters in the Pretti incident have been identified. 
 
https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez
 
Both from a part of  Texas I’m very familiar with. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:42 utc | 345

Shorter message, return to FDRism…give the Taftian-GOPers/Woodrow-Wilsonian-gilded-age-Dinos the boot, return to what works for America, for Americans.
Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 1 2026 17:51 utc | 341 & Saint Jimmy
 
I think you’re on the right track and it’s a good point to start the conversation, but a lot of FDRism was failing and needed WWII to bail it out. In the post-war years, much of the US economy was propped up by military spending, albeit not in a manner that was incredibly obvious. There is a reason that almost every major congressional district has either a military base, an MIC contractor as a major employer, or companies that in some way supply the MIC.  But yeah, I think at a minimum I agree with most of your own wishes and lean farther toward Saint Jimmy and some form of socialism that is to the highest degree possible immunized from constant attacks by Globo-Cap. Slash the US military presence worldwide, massively reduce “defense” or War spending, rein in or get rid of the CIA/NSA,  Campaign finance, laws with teeth to ensure congress/senate aren’t effectively inside trading or being bought off by Israel, MIC and Wall Street interests. More stringent pollution laws (microplastics, petroleum products, PFAS, etc.), no more lifetime SCOTUS terms (maybe limit to 25 years in a binding contract…who knows)…just spitballing. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:49 utc | 346

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:42 utc | 347
 
The Valley. I’m somewhat familiar with it. I grew up just north of Victoria.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 1 2026 21:49 utc | 347

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:49 utc | 348
 
I might not normally go that far but I think the situation will almost require it. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 1 2026 21:51 utc | 348

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 1 2026 21:49 utc | 349
 
Yeah the lower RGV to be more specific. I was just there a few weeks ago visiting a laydown yard for a border floating barrier project about to kick off. Pretty nasty stuff. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:52 utc | 349

⚠️🇪🇺🇷🇺 Russian President Putin:❗️“After the collapse of the Soviet Union, we thought we would quickly become members of the so-called civilized family of European nations.”❗️“Today it turns out that there is no civilization there, only complete degradation.”
 
It took him nearly 40years to realize the delusion he’s in and millions of Slavs.  Good grief, what more can this mortal be awaken to at this late in time. 
Iran has Nuke capabilities and should never ally with the Russian politicians. 
 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Feb 1 2026 21:53 utc | 350

Sorry if a repost. Didn’t scan all 3 pages of comments.
 
https://thegrayzone.com/2026/02/01/guardian-iranian-death-toll-concocted-monarchist-doctors/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:55 utc | 351

This is just hypocritical preemptive ass-covering. 
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 1 2026 12:06 utc | 322
 
Good point. It’s also probably a little more devious than pre-emptive CYA and more of a psyop to alter the Iranians’ preparation for what’s to come. But like you said, if the US/IsntReal kick off a war on Iran, those pathetic vassals will of course not only allow their airspace to be used, but the US has proxy or actual bases in several of them. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:59 utc | 352

I’m not a socialist but, I want a decent life for people who work and a good life for those willing/able to learn a needed skill and apply themselves. 
 
The last thing I want to see is a guaranteed-income; which is just a fancy way of saying multi generational welfare.  It’s bad for the recipient and it’s bad for society.  FDRism meant a hand-up, not a hand out.  If there are no jobs available in the private sector then public works are created see my comment at 341 but to be clear, those public sector jobs should be not be such that they are preferred to private sector employment, be that for oneself or for others.  Create conditions, subsidizing as needed, to make US workers wage competitive [see my comment at 341]
 
We already have “free-healthcare” for the “poor” in the form of Medicaid.  It’s quite good, I know, I was on it during covid, it was the only Obamacare “plan” available to me due to income.  Medicaid covered far more than Medicare does now.  I’m all for an expansion of Medicare based on an additional payroll tax capped at 1,000,000.00/yr which is…not free.  The wage cap on SSI taxes is way too low…way too low. 
 
I think SSI is already a pension system is it not?  It’s already a good deal for the bottom half of earners, I just think ALL workers should have the same plan, not preferential plans for state-employed-workers and high-flying-executives.
 
For those unwilling to work, food, clothing, shelter are to be given.  These should be regionally based but, funded at the Nation level.  To be clear though, that’s with the understanding that if a person shirks onto others their share of society’s burdens; then the choice of where to live will be at society’s convenience, the food and housing we provide will be austere, adequate for long duration but, not meant to encourage/enable.  In such places, the offices of both public and private social welfare should be focused to encourage reengagement with society.  This not meant to be a penal colony or prison, people are free to do as they please in such places so long as they do not put those who staff the facility or the other residents at risk.  This $h!t where street addicts move into a areas where it’s convenient for them and the ruins the quality of life for middle/lower income worker is ungodly.  Up on the hill, in Nancy Pelosi’s side of San Fransisco you’ll never see a drugged out zombie making camp..they be whisked away before they set their stuff down. I guess, “some animals are more equal than others”.
 
For those willing to work see my comment at 341.  This requires a serious Industrial-policy, an iron-clad social contract between workers, managers, owners and the indolent wealthy.  All of which was destroyed by all of the post JFK presidencies…a completely bipartisan effort to repudiate FDR and FDRism [circa 1932-1977].  I was there, I lived through the ongoing rust-bowl-era…Carter was more of a neoliberal than Ford and long before Reagan.  And when comes to being an effed-up-neocon…Brzezinski has no equal, we are forced to live with his $h!t every day, day in..day out.

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 1 2026 22:00 utc | 353

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Feb 1 2026 21:53 utc | 352
 
#####
 
You do not understand how rational and responsible people think.
 
Putin is responsible for the world’s largest nuclear arsenal and a civilization numbering globally in the millions.
 
He can’t be emotional or hasty. If he makes a mistake, billions could die. Easy for randos online to critique him as though they have any conception of the weight of his remit.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 22:15 utc | 354

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 21:52 utc | 351
 
Wow. I’m retired. Thank God.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Feb 1 2026 22:18 utc | 355

FDRism was failing and needed WWII to bail it out.
Tom_Q_Collins  348

 
Yours is a commonly held misconception that’s been preached high and low by neoliberals of Blue and Red alike.  Paul Krugman..Milton Friedman..like all good lies you’ll find perfect alignment on this point.  It’s completely false, it’s funny how people never think to check the facts behind “credentialed-authority’s” fractured fairy tales.
 
In 1936 the economy had improved dramatically.  Seeing this, the Tafters and the Wilsonians felt threatened, they got together to threaten/convince FDR to back off on the FDRism which FDR did.  The recovery, being fragile, sputtered in 1937.
 
FDRism didn’t fail, imposing neoliberalism did…google it for yourself.  And for the record, IKE was more of a true Keynesian/FDRist than Truman ever was.  BTW, Truman should never have President of the United States, had FDR understood that he had been poisoned by a radioactive isotope I feel certain he would not have picked Truman as a running mate in 1944, as he thought very little of the man.  For the record, FDR must have thought more of Truman than I ever will…what an insufferable a-hole.

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 1 2026 22:28 utc | 356

an iron-clad social contract between workers, managers, owners and the indolent wealthy.
Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 1 2026 22:00 utc | 355

Agree with this, whatever political system you have: emperor, monarchy, dictator, autocrat, democracy, liberal, conservative doesn’t really matter. A solid, reliable, incorruptible social contract is needed to unify a society and make it prosper and develop. Lose that and decline, corruption and collapse become inevitable.

 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 1 2026 22:44 utc | 357

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 1 2026 22:28 utc | 358
 
Actually I got it from Ron Unz and several non-neoliberal authors he cited. I’ll post some links when I get home.
 
I actually hope you’re correct and I’m wrong. What are your sources?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 23:22 utc | 358

Re: FDR I suppose the capitalists Business Plot wasn’t for nothing.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 1 2026 23:25 utc | 359

Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 1 2026 22:44 utc | 359
 
#####
 
Social contracts are, at best, temporary.
 
There has never been an enduring social contract of any type.
 
I’d rather have a society with good norms and strong families.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 23:32 utc | 360

Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 1 2026 22:44 utc | 359
 
Absolutely. There is a name in political sociology for that concept. It is Legitimacy.
 
Basically whatever the form of government it is there because the people being governed grant it the right to rule, because they accept the social contract between the rulers and the ruled.  That is why external forces cannot force regime change anywhere. Within a few years the governmental form will revert to whatever had been there with just a few tweaks.
 
In all societies it is a trade off. Dictatorial rulers offer essentially security and consistency to the population which in many societies they willingly trade against things like “freedom”  or choice.  It is Maslow’s hierarchy of needs except that security takes precedence over all others.  Chieftains, warlords and kings are accepted because the ordinary people (and the merchants etc) expect them to protect them from invasion and criminals.  If they fail to do this they will be replaced. Prosperity, especially having enough food and shelter are also critical and fascist rulers remain in place provided they can assure jobs for most and that shops stay open and prosper.

Posted by: watcher | Feb 1 2026 23:36 utc | 361

To the discussion of a new social order
 
Finance as a public utility instead of the private jackboot we have currently is requirement number one because it effects all the incentives our society operates around.
 
Think in terms of what services government should provide with the rest being left to private sources…..terms like socialism and capitalism are misleading because there has always been nations with both socialism = government and capitalism = private
In US BPA,TVA and interstate highway system are all socialism but not thought of as such.
 
And yes, China is showing that there can exist a working mix of public/private efforts that are not centered on profit and expect they will fight corruption with those activities…sigh
 
Lets talk about guaranteed income. 
I am 77 and didn’t make any kids to have to make excuses about this shit show to but feel some responsibility for our species. 
I have been studying the future for over 50 years and see clearly that humanity has a population that is and will be more than there will be “jobs” for at an extreme level soon because of AI.
Are we just going to let those folks die?
What if they don’t like the situation they are forced into?
 
I think society needs to follow the China lead of ongoing 5 year or so plans and all the associated planning and management……not exact copy but mirror process mostly.
 
I see our species as having better potential than at the moment under the God Of Mammon cult which is being exposed as the anti-humanistic form of social organization that it is and has been.
We have the ability to regain control of society by simply exercising the will to do so.  It is sad to see that so many do not see that potential.
 
Thanks for the discussion

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 1 2026 23:52 utc | 362

We definitely need full employment, and if the over-rated “private sector” won’t do it, then the government should provide work, as was done in the New Deal, and as is mandated by the Humphrey-Hawkins Full Employment Act of 1978.
There is much work to be done to make the US a decent country, and no “private sector” corporation can do it.  At least, they wouldn’t without a massive profit margin, like the military-industrial complex and the medical industrial complex.
We most definitely do NOT need an expansion of Medicare, which is government money going to for-profit medical care.
Medical care, education, prisons and the military should not be for-profit enterprises.  They should all be government controlled, and run for the benefit of the population, not the greedy few.
If everyone was employed at productive and necessary projects, the hours of labor could be lowered for everyone.   
We don’t have to live like this.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2026 0:44 utc | 363

LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 22:15 utc | 356
*** He can’t be emotional or hasty. If he makes a mistake, billions could die. Easy for randos online to critique him as though they have any conception of the weight of his remit.***
 
But if — as you have argued in other discussions  — it is all pre-determined anyway, then it makes no difference what or how quicklyh he decides.
And there is no point in anyone offering a critique either, since that too must have been pre-determined.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2026 0:47 utc | 364

watcher | Feb 1 2026 23:36 utc | 363
*** Basically whatever the form of government it is there because the people being governed grant it the right to rule, because they accept the social contract between the rulers and the ruled.  That is why external forces cannot force regime change anywhere. Within a few years the governmental form will revert to whatever had been there with just a few tweaks. ***
 
It does not appear to be thus re, for instance, Libya.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2026 0:54 utc | 365

What are your sources?
 – Tom_Q_Collins  360

 
What if you just research it on your own?  This is my first hit:
*https://study.com/cimages/multimages/16/4755cf80-81f3-411f-b2ae-857b7d252a6c_gdp.jpg*
 

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 2 2026 0:59 utc | 366

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2026 0:54 utc | 367
There many foreign hands in Libya grasping after control of the oil.
I suspect a great many ordinary Libyans lament the loss of Gaddafi, don’t discount a reversion to that system over the long term.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 2 2026 1:03 utc | 367

You could just as easily draw the conclusion that KSA wants to see IRI come out of this stronger.

Posted by: Umbel | Feb 2 2026 4:11 utc | 368

Posted by: S Brennan | Feb 2 2026 0:59 utc | 368
 
Why are you such a douchebag? I’ve tried numerous times to engage you on a one-to-one level and you have this weird phobia about me. It’s honestly strange. While I appreciate you providing the Google link, it still comes with the usual hurt-feelings penumbra. Did I seriously do something in the past that you interpreted as “mean” or “mean spirited”? I just told you that I’d be happy to be wrong if you were actually right.
 
I’ll gladly click on your link now. Expect feedback later, but …. GEEZ … Thanks!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2026 6:26 utc | 369

UGH..OK Brennan – Let’s get real.
 
I don’t want nor did I ask for a GDP or semi-equivalent chart. I want real (even contradictory) analysis of the FDR program. Come on, man. What books – like actual books can I download or pirate in which the case can be made that totally destroys the WWII saved FDR’s program? I am NOT trying to be a dick here. I just want something that’s well written, reasoned and footnoted – preferably  with “primary” or at least traceable sources, man. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2026 6:29 utc | 370

Why does anyone want full employment?
 
Aim higher. More living less working.
 
I can keep the planet full employed doing trivial and meaningless things.
 
Some people would probably rather do something productive, inspiring, or unique.
 
All of this talk of returning to a past that was sub optimal for many, and mostly funded through debt and war.
 
The future is unlikely to look like an idealized past. The rate of change, discovery, and communication are very fast now.
 
Look forward and try to find your role in that.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2026 6:38 utc | 371

With every passing day, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion reveals itself more clearly:
 
🇺🇸🇮🇱⚡️ Epstein and Peter Thiel (founder of Palantir) were discussing plans to destabilize Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, and Egypt:
“The more chaos there is, with a large number of conflicting parties, the less we will do.”
🇦🇫 🇺🇸 In June 2011, American billionaire Tom Pritzker told Epstein that he was “in a remote valley of Afghanistan” with armed soldiers (“toys and boys”). It was his birthday wish. 
Patraeus helped out.
 
🇺🇸🇪🇺🇳🇴 Ex-NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg with other Norwegian officials are in Epstein’s files:
“I suffered massive human trafficking. I started as a young child. They made a sexslave in every nation. They tried to kill my brain. The royalties in Norway, Gunnhild Stordalen, Petter Stordalen, Kjell Inge, Rokke, Jens Stoltenberg and others tried to put me into coma and they wanted to make me disabled” — victim claims
🇺🇸🇬🇧 Ex-UK Prime Minister, Gordon Brown is mentioned in the Epstein files. 
 
“Brown is known for sexually abusing numerous boys, as well as girls. He is known for a particularly vile rape in Aberdeen in the 70’s, when he and 2 others paid a prostitute for access to her 9 year old daughter. They all raped her several times”.
 
🇺🇸 Epstein was chilling in a CIA Government/Intel building?
 
🇺🇸🇮🇱📁 — NEW: In a March 2018 email with the subject “He was passed away,” Jeffrey Epstein detailed how Ghislaine’s dad, Robert Maxwell, threatened Mossad and blackmailed the agency for £400 million before he died.
 
➡️ Robert later died under mysterious circumstances while sailing his yacht to the Canary Islands. He went missing and was eventually found floating in the Atlantic Ocean, with authorities assuming he likely fell overboard in an accidental drowning incident.
 
Robert Maxwell threatened Mossad.
 
He told them that unless they gave him £400 million to save his crumbling empire, he would expose all he had done for them.
 
In that time, he had free access to Margaret Thatcher’s Downing Street, to Ronald Reagan’s White House, to the Kremlin and to the corridors of power throughout Europe.
 
Maxwell passed on all the secrets he learned to Mossad in Tel Aviv. In turn, they tolerated his excesses, vanities and insatiable appetite for a luxurious lifestyle and women.
He told his controllers who they should target and how they should do it. He appointed himself as Israel’s unofficial ambassador to the Soviet Bloc.
 
🇺🇸 EPSTEIN: ‘Why are you right wing guys so anti-semitic?’
 

A: “Historically we all know its actually been the Jews behind the govts actually pulling the strings”.
 
EPSTEIN: ‘Like who?’
 
*People point at EPSTEIN*
 
EPSTEIN: ‘Me?!!… Guilty! So funny’
 

Kill them all and let Yahweh sort them out.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 2 2026 7:12 utc | 372

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 1 2026 12:43 utc | 327
In the US, at the moment, the Jews are ascendant, top of the social order. They have the money (both theirs, and ours via control of money supply), they control the media, own many of the biggest commercial entities, and because of money and media control, also control our government.  All of it. Repeat: All of it.

 
So, quoting Josif Visioronovich in connection with the vast power of the Pope, how many divisions do them Jews have in America?
The position of Jews inside America has been carefully built in finance, the media, universities, government in general, and many other civil organizations, with excellent results for them. But they were also equally wildly successful in the same areas during the Weimar Republic in Germany. Yes. Yet that didn’t help them when the vast majority of the aboriginal population turned against them.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 2 2026 10:07 utc | 373

Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 1 2026 22:44 utc | 359
 
A solid, reliable, incorruptible social contract is needed to unify a society and make it prosper and develop. Lose that and decline, corruption and collapse become inevitable.
 
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 1 2026 23:32 utc | 362
 
There has never been an enduring social contract of any type.
 
 
Posted by: watcher | Feb 1 2026 23:36 utc | 363
 
the people being governed grant it[the government] the right to rule, because they accept the social contract between the rulers and the ruled. Dictatorial rulers offer essentially security and consistency to the population which in many societies they willingly trade against things like “freedom” or choice.
 
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 1 2026 23:52 utc | 364Finance as a public utility instead of the private jackboot we have currently is requirement number one because it effects all the incentives our society operates around.
 
 
<=governments always end up providing for the few at the expense of the many.
 
<= Once the government is formed, those appointed to lead operate in secret with respect to those who are the governed.. The governed masses are left with no way to learn, discover or know enough about the personal affairs of those running the government or the operations themselves to be able to make election decisions or to be able to recognize when those in charge have deviated from the terms of the social contract: under-performance, abuse of authority, corruption of purpose, unauthorized self enrichment, even things like weaponizing the government against the crowds. No way for the crowds to discover abuse, misuse, or corruptions or do anything about them if such is discovered
History shows soon after a new government forms those who are appointed to operate it have no need to be constrained by the terms of the social contract because their deviations cannot be addressed by the crowds.
A contract is a two way street; it requires each party to enforce the provisions and terms in the contract against the other party. Joe agrees to paddle the boat the crowd owns in a straight line. The rest of the crowd agrees to let joe paddle the boat provided he does so according to the contract. But Joe dies and designates Queeny to take joes job. Queeny can’t paddle the boat in a straight line.. Soon the boat uses more fuel, arrives late, and is always in need of maintenance long before its time .. so the crowd investigates and discovers Queeny can’t do the job.. fires Queeny, hires Jill, Jill is corrupt, she profits by carrying drugs on the boat and soon the authorities arrest Jill confiscate the boat.. The crowd is dumbfounded.. It has been kept in the dark and only learned the corruptions of Jill and the incompetencies of Queeny after the boat has been confiscated.
 
Without the boat going for food and supplies the crowd soon dies.
 
 
The problem with making a social contract is enforcement.. The bottom up masses have no mechanism or authority powerful enough to discover and manage the incompetencies, frauds, or corruptions of those who drive the boat. (the boat captains do not allow the crowds to check on the boat or its operations, nor is the crowd allowed to question trip routes, fuel cost, maintenance, and repairs. All the crowds in a social contract are allowed to do is pay and obey, pay and obey, pay and obey, pay and obey.
There must be an enforcement system that allows the crowd to discover what the ship captain is up to, and the mechanism must be independent of the Ship Captain authority or influence. The crowd needs to be authorized as a detective (auditor) and given the authority to investigate the Ship Captain and ship operations without any requirement, objection or permission of the Ship Captain (independence), to investigate, discover, and document both the integrity of the Ship Captain and the performance of the Ship under the Ship Captain’s tenure.
The crowds need to be able to discover exceptions (deficiencies, wrongdoings, or inefficiencies) and outline them in an audit report) and the crowds need to be able to make sure (enforce corrections) the exceptions are timely corrected. IOWs who in the social contract is going to be powerful enough to enforce the obligation of the Ship Captain to correct the discovered deficiencies, wrongdoings or inefficiencies?  A court, but not one the ship captain has control over? Enforcement requires an independent court (a court that protects the contract rights of the both parties) and a police or military force strong enough to arrest, hold and replace the Ship Captain.  When the crowds are not authorized to prosecute the violations of the terms of the contract, or when the prosecutor or court system likewise refuses there is no contract, instead the contract becomes a promise without obligation.
Once the court renders its opinion, assigns a punishment, there has to be a jail in which the warden is not the Ship Captain and a military force under court control strong enough to take control of the ship and its captain until the deficiencies are corrected.
All social contract governments fail because those who man the positions in government are able to conduct the affairs of government in secret. Without immediate, informed, direct and authoritative intervention by the crowds, to enforce the contract, the ship’s captain can do as he or she pleases, even turn the guns on the ship on the crowd. The captains are immune to their failures, transgressions or corruptions because there is no way the crowds can efficiently enforce the contract obligations against those who operate the government..
This is why i have long been proposing a 2nd government which I have outlined before. .

Posted by: snake | Feb 2 2026 10:32 utc | 374

You could just as easily draw the conclusion that KSA wants to see IRI come out of this stronger.
 
Posted by: Umbel | Feb 2 2026 4:11 utc | 370

 
Indeed. But you’d be wrong.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 2 2026 11:55 utc | 375

Jeez you guys and your FDR obsession- the Roosevelt’s are Old Bastard Ziofascist Dynasts – the US was BUILT for and by them from DAY ONE – centuries ago. 
 
The C20th , Yankee zoo doodle imperialism is a continuation of their never ending ‘project’ an unquenchable hunger and thirst born out of the loss of their ancient empire a thousand years ago. 
 
They are now as always the shapeshifters that control ALL of the Collective Waste, built in their imaginary image of greatness.
 
 
They just want the whole world to acknowledge that and for humanity to prostrate itself in Ron of the few, oh so very few, self declared living gods ; whilst obeying their ziofascist servants, the convert fake Jews and their crazed Talmudic secret magik – which revolves around sex and death. 
 
That is America – always was and will be why it will disassemble into the natural parts instead of a giant continental size behemoth to equal the size of Russia – which is what the shapeshifters and deposed Old Bastards is the only thing they want to see destroyed. 
 
Because it is the Russians who destroyed their Old Slav- er empire .
 
 
Everything that transpired ever since in AngloEuropean history follows from that humiliating defeat and it is bred into every generation and third minions. 
 
Roosevelts are like all ‘founding fathers’ and the families that planned the rise of the American Empire to become the most powerful AngloEuropean imperial power .
 
Eleanor was perhaps even worse with her Hail Mary construction of the United Nations to control the Eurasians who survived and beat their Nazi war machine. Built under her and FDR’s guidance over THREE terms. A folks on from Teddy’s guidance that established the Fed and led to the trench warfare mincing machine that turned into bonemeal the rising grassroots of Europe who wanted their fair share of their wealth creation. Enough to have a secure life. 
 
 
Nothing much has changed during that last hundred years until Xi and VVP stood together to stop the next attempt at the Ziolords Great Game to destroy and take EurAsia. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 2 2026 12:48 utc | 376

Posted by: snake | Feb 2 2026 10:32 utc | 376
 
There was a Social Contract between the Aristo establishment FEW and the common AngloEuropean 5 eyes as the proxy fascist Nazis failed against the ‘communists’ on WW2. 
 
The Old Bastard Ziolords (see above) what their pants and agree to let their slave masses finally have what they demanded in that Social Contract. 
 
Being thieves, cheats and criminals all their generations they limited it to Thirty Years – covering 2 generations. 
They then dismantled it – viciously , to show that they were back in charge and for the masses to fall back into line of their great preww2 fathers. 
The Social Contract was ensured and guaranteed by the Many’s industrial workers protection grassroots group – The Unions.
 
 
But the Unions got infiltrated , the leadership were moles at the end and they were made into goons that made the unions the Villains  
 
 
That perception management led to anti-unionism that led to the masses becoming Turkeys that voted for Xmas (here in Europe) and Thanksgiving there in the US! 
 
Maggie and Raygun were the chosen dismantlers- having been moulded for the role  by the Zio Lords .
 
 
The fear and control of the whip, austerity, poverty reintroduced without the fake slave religion of a heaven to look forward to anymore. 
 
Well except for the isolated, deluded Yankeedribblercmouth breathers who had been raised in Zionist judaeo Christian eschatology which placed the fake convert khazer minions into Chosen People who needed to build the temple so that the crazed eschatology would deliver them the heaven forever. 
 
 
We can demand the reinstatement of a Social Contract NOW with this centuries failure to take EurAsia by the neo Nazio proxies and their failure to exterminate all Palestinian dna so they can pretend they really are the only Semetic peoples in a hundred years time. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 2 2026 13:06 utc | 377

Johan Kaspar | Feb 2 2026 10:07 utc | 375
*** The position of Jews inside America has been carefully built in finance, the media, universities, government in general, and many other civil organizations, with excellent results for them. But they were also equally wildly successful in the same areas during the Weimar Republic in Germany. Yes. Yet that didn’t help them when the vast majority of the aboriginal population turned against them.***
 
But which side were the top Zionists actually on, for advancement of their own agendas?
 
Just as with Netanyahu deliberately setting up many ordinary Israeli citizens and military staff to be killed (even though that required the use of helicopter gunships which Hamas never had). They don’t at all mind sacrificing some pawns.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2026 17:58 utc | 378

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2026 17:58 utc | 380
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Sure but why do you care that the top honchos of the people you hate sacrifice their own population? You should be happy they do that. So what are you whining about?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 3 2026 8:21 utc | 379

Johan Kaspar | Feb 3 2026 8:21 utc | 381
**** Sure but why do you care that the top honchos of the people you hate sacrifice their own population? You should be happy they do that. So what are you whining about?***
 
Johan Kaspar | Feb 2 2026 10:07 utc | 375
*** But they were also equally wildly successful in the same areas during the Weimar Republic in Germany. Yes. Yet that didn’t help them when the vast majority of the aboriginal population turned against them.***
 
 
Your earlier post suggested things had eventually gone very bad for them in Weimar Germany …… point being made is that although things certainly did go wrong for many of them, these same events were exactly what was wanted by a powerful group within that sector of population — an internal group which had its own, self-serving and different (though largely hidden) agenda and objectives.
Hence a strong similarity with the modern day pawn-sacrificing actions of Netanyahu.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 3 2026 12:19 utc | 380