Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 31, 2026
Zionist Distorts Arab Analysis As Arguing For Attack On Iran

U.S. President Donald Trump made a big mistake when he threatened war on Iran.

He was doing that to get concessions from Iran which the country is unable to make.

Trump asks for:

  1. a complete de-nuclearization of Iran,
  2. strong limits on its missile programs,
  3. the abolishment of Iranian support for regional allies like Hizbullah, Hamas and Shia militia in Iraq and Yemen and
  4. the recognition by Iran of Israel as a legitimate country.

Under the current system of Iran any politician who would argue for or agree to making any such concessions would immediately lose legitimacy.

Trump has made threats. He then set out conditions that guarantee that he will not get what he wants. He now has two choices:

  • To attack Iran until it concedes something.
  • To chicken out and recall his fleet from Iran.

Neither is a good choice:

Iran has announced to retaliate for any attack by massive missile launches against Israel and U.S. positions in the Middle East. Iran has also stated that it would close the Strait of Hormuz and thereby cause sky high global oil prices. This would likely lead to heavy losses for the Republicans in the mid term elections and would eventually end up with new impeachment procedures against Trump.

To chicken out would is also not be a good choice. By resisting a threat from Trump to then see the threat retracted without having made concessions Iran would have set an example that future targets of Trump’s extortion schemes would surely follow. It would make Iran look stronger and Trump look weaker.

I am by far not the only one who makes these points.

As Axios reports:

Saudi Defense Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman (KBS) said in a private briefing on Friday in Washington that if President Trump doesn’t follow through on his threats against Iran, the regime will end up stronger, four sources in the room tell Axios.

“At this point, if this doesn’t happen, it will only embolden the regime,” KBS said, according to the sources in the room.

In a separate briefing on Friday, a Gulf official said the region was “stuck” in a position where the U.S. striking Iran risked “bad outcomes,” but not doing so would mean “Iran will come out of this stronger.”

Prince Khalid bin Salman has a realist’s view and is right with this analysis.

The Axios reporter though, Barak Ravid, – well known to be a Zionist asset -, is trying to turn that realist view KBS uttered into a Saudi argument for bombing Iran:

Why it matters: This is a reversal from the public Saudi talking points cautioning against escalation and from the deep concern Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) expressed to Trump three weeks ago. That warning was one reason Trump decided to delay a strike.

No. The analysis KBS gave is not a reversal of the Saudi position. The Saudis are still cautioning against escalation. What KBS did there was to simply point out the calamity Trump has placed himself into.

To interpret that statement as a Saudi argument for an attack on Iran is a willful and distortion of what was said. It is a typical primitive attempt by a Zionist ideologue to ‘create a reality’ that does not exist.

Esfandyar Batmanghelidj @yarbatman – 10:39 UTC · Jan 31, 2026

I asked a senior Saudi official and Barak’s story mischaracterises KBS’s comments. There has been no reversal of Saudi policy.

KBS was stating the obvious when he said Trump not bombing Iran would embolden the regime. But the Saudis continue to urge caution and do not want war.

(Esfandyar Batmanghelidj is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). He is not a friend or promoter of the Islamic Republic.)

Comments

what is poor israel going to do when they can’t suck their useful tool – usa – into what they want??  as for the endless stream of propaganda bullshit – that is what everyone has come to expect…
 
thanks b

Posted by: james | Jan 31 2026 15:54 utc | 1

Now, there are powerful forces that not only wish for Trump’s defeat, but are also doing everything in their power to bring it about.

Forces that want to see the Middle East burn in order to use it to bring Trump down.
And these forces are not only indifferent to thousands, even millions, of deaths, but on the contrary, they actually desire them. Even billions would be welcome if they could attribute them to their opponent, Trump.
 
 
 
And it would also serve the purpose of effectively reducing the world’s population… because that is undoubtedly one of the goals.

Posted by: Genesis | Jan 31 2026 15:55 utc | 2

reading up on Prince Khalid bin Salman is informative.. he has spent a lot of time inside the usa bubble…

Posted by: james | Jan 31 2026 15:58 utc | 3

the relationships between us western forces, Israeli operations and Saudi Arabia throughout the last eighty years are probably best reflected in the real business conducted by Epstein and his circle. Sex slavery is hardly a thing. What they were really up to likely includes most of the terrror attacks we know about. Start drawing those lines.  Forget about the little girls. That’s just another verse of what has been sung before in various ways about other presidents. All of them scum. But the threatened revelations came from somewhere. Not saying a particular country or faith. Other than planet sacrificing gold mongers. 
 

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 31 2026 16:03 utc | 4

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 30th January 2026: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update Covers Gaza, the ME and Iran

Posted by: The Busker | Jan 31 2026 16:05 utc | 5

By the way:
Sheikh Tamir Kanal…
⚡️“It is impossible to resolve the territorial issues without a meeting with Putin,” said Zelenskyy.
He also stated that the more physically fit men of mobilization age return from abroad, the easier it will be for the army, the population, and Ukraine.
Suspicions are emerging that Zelenskyy might be planning something nefarious when he meets Putin… he would only have the opportunity to do so through personal contact… The past, and the CIA and MI6, would likely have some grounds for this, and Zelenskyy would probably be dead by the time the war ends anyway.

Posted by: Genesis | Jan 31 2026 16:06 utc | 6

Thanks for the timely posting b…….if the supposed attack had happened last night you would be writing different posting, eh?
 
Humanity is in the schoolyard watching this standup to the bully of centuries reign.
 
That bully has been put in a lose/lose situation fueled by their own hubris.
 
I hope the choice they make takes them further down the road of extinction and not us.
 
The shit show continues until it doesn’t…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 16:09 utc | 7

“Behold. The festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit: the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the sexism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk, and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul – all spray-painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair. Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn’t but has always been – arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshipped like gospel. It is America’s shadow made flesh, a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn’t just lose its soul – it sh*ts out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader.”  Oliver Kornetzke via Substack.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 31 2026 16:09 utc | 8

These arabs leaders are like dogs that always return to their vomit. Shameless and spineless dogs. KSA is saying that Iran is the problem? They grant the US everything asked of them, financial, diplomatic , military etc. Yet the US govt and people deride and ridicule them daily(nothwithstanding the vast investment in fiat junk in the US).Israel buggers them at will….oh yeah but they love allah. What a bunch of worthless dogs. Long Live Iran and the axis of resistance.Long live Yemen

Posted by: Cuffy | Jan 31 2026 16:11 utc | 9

It’s quite a trap Trump has built for himself and the world … Is there any way out? 
 
The only path I see that might have a chance is a long term investment in the Venezuela option … basically put a full cordon around the outlet of the Arabian Sea and interdict any Iranian cargo as “illicit” due to the “regime’s treatment of its own people” as well as the IRGC being classified as terrorists (here, the EU’s recent classfication comes in handy). 
 
Basically starve the the country until it pops at the top, like VZ did, and shout loudly that you won. Now, Iran might naturally respond with stopping all shipping out of the Gulf altogether;  but this would be unpopular with China … and during the current oil glut it may be months before things get short. Meanwhile, months of dirty tricks by USUKIS and minimal $$$ may have the impact desired. 

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 31 2026 16:18 utc | 10

Seems there’s a little more to the story than being reported 
Saudi Arabia Shifts To Support War On Iran As It Secures $9 Billion Patriot DeAl
https://southfront.press/saudi-arabia-shifts-to-support-war-in-iran-as-it-secures-9-billion-patriot-deal/

Posted by: Feck | Jan 31 2026 16:20 utc | 11

My deepest concern is that Netanyahu has corralled Trump and company into a circle to allow him to use a nuclear weapon on Tehran if he finds himself pushed up against a wall. Netanyahu is just itching to use such a weapon. Regardless of the outcome and consequences. 

Posted by: octavian61 | Jan 31 2026 16:21 utc | 12

@10
 
Imagine this:  two anti-ship rockets and half dozen high tech mines tossed about the Hormuz.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 31 2026 16:25 utc | 13

Something for if/when someone kicks it all off. Several middle east webcams.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E-iFtUM2kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zGuR1qVKrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6OG1_oPUj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JboXN7CuKxc
 
I am slightly surprised it has not been started yet. Those Epstein files seem to have some damning stuff that could use some distraction.
Gold/silver games should be having the people in the streets too, but few understand.
 
Americans are strange.
 
Lose their fucking minds over a word used the ‘wrong’ way or their ‘team’ being insulted.
 
Leaders murder millions, kill citizens, fuck and murder kids, steal trillions from the people? Meh.
 
 
 

Posted by: ftp | Jan 31 2026 16:26 utc | 14

@ Saint Jimmy | Jan 31 2026 16:09 utc | 8 with BEHOLD….thanks
 
I have passed it on and already got rave reviews with one saying that AI could not create such.
 
I have written all along the Trump represents the perfect face of dying empire and those human traits we don’t want in leadership roles.  Lets hope we learn the lesson.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 16:28 utc | 15

Paddy – The great thing about an embargo is the US could do it from far out of reach of Iran’s missiles … As for mining the strait, that’s an option but is the US actually worried about it in the short term?

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 31 2026 16:31 utc | 16

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 16:28 utc | 15
 
I knew there was no way it could be AI. I wish I had written it. It’s worthy of Hunter Thompson. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 31 2026 16:33 utc | 17

@11
 
The Saudis maintain a long line of scores of billions of potential buys from the US’ MIC!
 
Will those 730 PAC 3 MSE missiles (there is a lot more than PAC in a Patriot battery!!!)  actually be funded, before the SAUDIS fund the 10 THAAD batteries “potentially” sold a few years ago?
 
At $60/bbl it could be decades!

Posted by: paddy | Jan 31 2026 16:34 utc | 18

I really think it’s shit or get off the pot for the United States Navy’s CSGs menacing Iran, as of this weekend. After all, sailors gotta eat, &ct. They can’t just float out there indefinitely, in a surreal iteration of gunboat diplomacy, as big fat missile and submarine drone targets (just out of range?)
 
The diplo-scuttlebut (source: here&there) is that USA pleaded with Iran to absorb another symbolic strike without freaking out, as we saw as the end of that 12-day fiasco. But Iran said no way. USA says but don’t strike back at Israel, at least. But Iran says make my day — next little pinprick and we’re going all the way. Any of you Arab states found co-operating, we’ve got plenty left over for you, too.
 
So now what — shift the fearsome USS Abraham Lincoln into reverse, back to Diego Garcia, with its three-destroyer escort between its legs? That’s the scenario Aleph is rooting for. Procrastinating yet another week doesn’t seem practical, at this point.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 31 2026 16:38 utc | 19

Attack’s gonna end the Empire. Climb-down accelerates the decline considerably.
 
As Saudi Defense Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman said, climb-down will embolden Iran. I think it’s way worse than that; it’ll embolden China and Russia a lot as well. Russia and China put a lot of chips on the table with Iran.
 
Climb-down may help Trump on the domestic front, possibly. The Zionists will rage, true-MAGAs will rejoice. Few, however, will give Trump the credit; he started it, and now he’s got to take the consequences.
 
Don’t forget to thank your Zionist friends, Mr. Trump. Dance with the ones that brung ya, however ugly (the both of) you are.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jan 31 2026 16:38 utc | 20

Thanks for this analysis b. We should all, especially Americans,  be reading and thinking seriously about the present situation – and what we can do to prevent the mad USraeli dog from another attack. Here’s John Helmer’s deep dive on the present situation:
 
The Kremlin Editorial For Iran is Surrender or Die, with a Footnote For Trump and the Oil Market – Body Bags and Gasoline Price Hikes Kill Presidents At Elections
 
https://x.com/bears_with/status/2017514030026350958
 
“Putin advises Iran that the risk of Hormuz closure is enough to deter Trump’s attack…”
 
Recommended.
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 31 2026 16:38 utc | 21

Trump (the USA) has stuck his head too far into the lion’s mouth.
 
Forget the Venezuelan blockade, I cannot imagine what the daily burn rate is to have all of those forces in West Asia.
 
If he stays, he loses. If he withdraws, he loses.
 
One could almost read the quoted KSA claim about Iran emboldened as an attempt to inspire the US to make a fatal move, like daring someone who has been drinking to a round of Russian Roulette.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 16:40 utc | 22

This already happened with North Korea in the first term.  A lot of brinkmanship and nothing.  N.K. held their final nuclear test of a 250 kt weapon.  This reportedly caused a tunnel to collapse killing hundreds of people.  Kim Jung Un got scared of the power of the bombs they were blowing up and called it quits.  Late Trump&Kim had a “peace conference” leading to nothing and that was the end of it.  I don’t see the Iranians holding a peace conference PR stunt with Trump.  They consistently refuse high level summits.

Posted by: Kodi Kar | Jan 31 2026 16:44 utc | 23

Just as I wrote last time, words carry weight. Trump has no off-ramp, Iran only total war. Easiest would be signing a new JCPOA in a different dress. Trump can claim victory, Iran gave up nothing and has sanction relief. For 6 months until it starts over.
 
I read and some claim Iran air defense wil be useless. US can suppress it with EW and use HARM missiles gaining air superiority. We can assume the US has a lot of capabilities but it has never been battle tested. One thing I do know is that the other side always disappoint. Sometimes it feels like they don’t even try. After all threats from Iran imaging not  being able to hit a single ship, total failure. So much at stake this time.

Posted by: Isidoor | Jan 31 2026 16:46 utc | 24

“He [Trump] now has two choices:
 
1] To attack Iran until it concedes something.
2] To chicken outrecall his fleet from Iran correct his error and withdraw
 
Neither is a good choice”

Au contraire, only in the bloodthirsty minds of globalist/neocolonialist/neoliberal DC/London/Jerusalem and the “blue-no-matter-who” crowd [but I repeat myself] is a withdrawal of forces not “a good choice”. 
 
And if it is the latter, while I may not appreciate the bluff & bluster but, if that is all it is, that is normal $h!t for a “wheeler-dealer”.  The poll tested DNC talking point, TACO is a rhetorical device meant to create an illusion, one that denigrates Trump as female-genitalia if he takes a reasonable course of action but, reward him if he engages in the bloodthirsty butchery that the was/is the hallmark of the Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Sullivan-Blinken-Administration [singular-intended].
 
In every officer/NCO training course I took, an organized withdrawal/[retreat] is a tactic, not a statement about a commanders lack of courage.  As I said at the outset of this comment; “only in the bloodthirsty minds of globalist/neocolonialist/neoliberal DC/London/Jerusalem and the “blue-no-matter-who” crowd [but I repeat myself] is a withdrawal of forces not “a good choice“.
 

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 16:47 utc | 25

Self-imposed American stupidity knows no bounds.
If you don’t threaten to attack, then you won’t have to “chicken out”.

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Jan 31 2026 16:48 utc | 26

Posted by: Isidoor | Jan 31 2026 16:46 utc | 24
 
######
 
You must not have seen the photos of Tel Aviv after 12 days or the Haifa mayor crying about Iranian missiles.
 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 16:49 utc | 27

Americans are strange.
Lose their fucking minds over a word used the ‘wrong’ way or their ‘team’ being insulted.
Leaders murder millions, kill citizens, fuck and murder kids, steal trillions from the people? Meh.
Posted by: ftp | Jan 31 2026 16:26 utc | 14
Which “Americans”?  The ones paid millions by the ruling class to lie to the public?  The genocidal Zio billionaire Oligarchs that direct the MSM and politicians?  Or their victims: the millions of wage slaves?
Imperialist cheerleaders consistently ignore the crucial class distinction.  
Fuck you.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 16:54 utc | 28

john helmer post from yesterday on all this talk of an attack..
 
 

Posted by: james | Jan 31 2026 16:54 utc | 29

I think it is a false choice. Reality does not matter to the US, they can just make up more fantasy and have it published like they did with the bs about the B-2 bombing raid. It is why they are where they are in the first place.
 
So the US should just go home. Leave Iran alone. Leave Cuba alone, Leave Venezuela alone, Leave Greenland alone. Leave Iceland alone. Leave North Korean alone. Leave South Korea alone. Leave Germany alone. Leave Japan alone. Leave China alone. Leave Russia alone. Leave the UK alone. Leave Ireland alone. Leave Nicaragua alone. Leave Palestine alone. Leave Honduras alone. Leave Canada alone. Leave Mexico alone. Leave Syria alone. Leave all of the world alone.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 31 2026 16:59 utc | 30

If my brother Exile is about, maybe he will repost the supercut video of Iran pulverizing Israel last year.
 
I think that after all those officer training courses, people have forgotten who they are messing with. 😂😂😂
 
Don’t confuse mercy with weakness. In Russia or in Iran.
 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 17:00 utc | 31

Posted by: Isidoor | Jan 31 2026 16:46 utc | 24
 
######
 
You must not have seen the photos of Tel Aviv after 12 days or the Haifa mayor crying about Iranian missiles.
 
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 16:49 utc | 27
 
Such a beautiful sight!  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 17:01 utc | 32

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 31 2026 16:59 utc | 30
 
######
 
Better luck getting a dog not to bark than to get an Empire not go to war.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 17:02 utc | 33

octavian61 | Jan 31 2026 16:21 utc | 12
*** Netanyahu is just itching to use such a [nuclear] weapon. Regardless of the outcome and consequences. ***
 
 
Not necessarily regardless ….. he’s maybe got a Baldrick-style cunning plan, such as thereafter declaring Jared Kushner to be the Mafia Messiah (but would even Armageddonists and messianic Jews be dumb enough to fall for that?) …. and hence demanding a worldwide tithe be paid into Trump’s “Peace Board” swizz. 
 
 
Then again, Netanyahu and the Khazars in general are sadistic psychopaths so perhaps they would just plain enjoy doing it. 
Their cults really want to base themselves in postwar Ukraine, Somaliland and Patagonia anyway.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 31 2026 17:02 utc | 34

I think it is a false choice. Reality does not matter to the US, they can just make up more fantasy and have it published like they did with the bs about the B-2 bombing raid. It is why they are where they are in the first place.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 31 2026 16:59 utc | 30
Untill they can’t.  There’s a hard material limit to the propaganda and it is approaching rapidly.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 17:03 utc | 35

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 16:54 utc | 28
Which “Americans”?
Gee. Um, maybe all the ones that let those things happen. Or did space aliens come down and force those things you list on you? All the ones that scream USA!USA!USA! #1 without a clue that the only thing it is number one at is terrorism, financial, physical and political? All the hypocrites that back their teams evil while condemning  the “other side” when they do the same? All the too lazy to actually look into the issues and instead just parrot the ‘team’ position? 
 
“Fuck you”. Yeah, that is exactly the typical American response to any criticism. See the fucking problem? Of course you won’t. Because taking responsibility for the situation is also something the Americans can’t do.
 
Maybe you are not one of those I describe, but your response makes me pretty certain you are exactly what I described.
 
 
 

Posted by: ftp | Jan 31 2026 17:05 utc | 36

To interpret that statement as a Saudi argument for an attack on Iran is a willful and distortion of what was said.

 
It is indeed a willful distortion of what was said. However, it is a truthful rendering of what KSA wants.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 31 2026 17:06 utc | 37

My guess is that the US will attack Iran early next week.  Everyone is busy preparing “gotcha’s” from the Epstein file dump.  Depending how bad the coverage is Trump will decide when to commit when the bad news gets too loud.  
 
I envision a very large attack on air defense systems and decapitation strikes.  Israel is supposedly ready to absorb significant punishment.  The Sauds have pretty much told Trump he is a pussy if he doesn’t attack.  Europeans have already done their part by declaring the Republican Guard a terrorist group which gives a figleaf when arguing that it would be an anti-terror strike instead of simple naked agression.
 
I sincerely hope to be wrong

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 31 2026 17:08 utc | 38

Now the reason Kamala took a dive and Trump was allowed to win becomes evident. The Zionists wanted a destabilizing attack on Iran. Strategically, Iran would be much better ally for the US than the Israelis, which give us nothing but war and enemies.

Posted by: Andrew | Jan 31 2026 17:10 utc | 39

Everyone is lining up with the Americans on this one. UK, Germany, France, all of them.
 
The Shia are referring to this as the “final battle”. 
 
Thousands of Shia men in Iraq and Iran are signing up for martyrdom operations.
 
Gotta cover up the Epstein releases from last night that Trump was investigated for pedophilia and how Epstein referred constantly in emails to people about “torture” of women. Time to wag that dog.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 17:11 utc | 40

@40
 
Imagine, if you will, the premier male at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave on the neighborhood pedophile watch list.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 31 2026 17:29 utc | 41

I believe our host is correct that Khalid bin Sultan has not reversed the official position of reluctance to openly cooperate with Trump in an assault on Iran. I don’t really know anything about Axios much less the reporter but it’s hard to assign any other motive for exaggeration like this. 
 
But I’ve never been sure that the official position and the real position are the same. Thinking that, the question to me is, who is this gentleman talking to? If he is somehow trying to advise Trump, this is likely to encourage Trump to attack. The reason is, Trump is apt enough to think that the bad consequences will be worst for other countries. The US currently has the strongest capitalist economy in the world (PRC is not capitalist,) a closure of the strait of Hormuz is far more apt to leave the US in the position of the guy who wins the pot while others are out of the game.  In any event, speaking to Trump in this vein in public is hardly calculated to deter Trump. I suspect that the statement is intended more for domestic consumption, an attempt to evade responsibility for not persuading Trump behind closed doors. If aimed at other states, it seems meant to try to place all blame for such bad consequences as closure of the strait on Trump. Nonetheless telling Trump publicly he will lose if he backs down is like daring him. I think the Saudis do not believe that Trump listens all that closely in private and strongly doubt Trump will be guided by a leak and a public press release from a foreign government. Again, our host is probably right in Axios’ motives.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 31 2026 17:30 utc | 42

Re: Helmer’s report. I found it odd that the Russians would so pessimistic about Iran’s ability to fend off the US Navy. Yemen was able to; why wouldn’t Iran do the same?
 
I listened to (former) UK Admiral Jervy’s remarks with Col. Danny Davis. I was actually very un-impressed with the interview; he said nothing but the most obvious and trivial. Maybe we should expect that, but then, what’s the motivation to do the interview?
 
One thing Jervy said was (my paraphrase) the Red Sea (Yemen theater) is different than the Arabian Sea (Iran theater) because there’s so much more “sea room”. He said the Red Sea is relatively shallow and narrow, and the Arabian Sea isn’t so much. 
 
OK, that makes sense so far as it goes. But then I looked at a map and the US fleet is positioned relatively close to Iran, not thousands of miles away. 
 
And then I recalled this quote from Col. MacGregor:
 

“In the age of hypersonic missiles, there are only two kinds of warship: Sitting ducks and submarines.”

 
So, I’m seeing a great deal of subterfuge and misdirection and non-speak coming from almost all quarters – including Helmer and Jervy –  and I further note the long-standing stream of supply airlifted into Iran from Russia and China.
 
Doesn’t it seem likely that Iran has hypersonic missiles with sufficient range and accuracy to hit a ship in Arabian Sea? The Times of Islamabad (that’s in Pakistan) wrote an article on the subject a few days ago. Article thesis: “Iran has some hypersonics  that might work, aren’t tested in battle conditions”. The article also directly contradicts Jervy’s assertion that there’s plenty of  “sea room” in the Persian Gulf, where the US navy’s ships have taken up station.
 
Here’s what US-based Defense News thinks:

Most defense experts agree that completely sinking a U.S. supercarrier remains an extraordinarily high bar. A more realistic scenario would be a “mission kill.” A single successful strike on the flight deck could halt flight operations, temporarily removing the carrier from combat without sending it to the bottom of the ocean.

 
Defense News also commented on recent airlifts into Iran from China: 
 

By the end of the third day, at least 14 landings had been recorded. Defense specialists estimate that such a volume of traffic would be sufficient to deliver two to three complete HQ-9B battalions, along with reload missiles, command vehicles, and associated radar units.
 
Why the HQ-9B Matters
The HQ-9B is China’s most capable operational long-range surface-to-air missile system, often compared to Russia’s S-400. With a reported engagement range of up to 250 kilometers and the ability to intercept targets at altitudes approaching 50 kilometers, the system is designed to counter aircraft, cruise missiles, and some ballistic threats.

 
We might actually see a very different form of warfare  when the US and Iran commence this war. No doubt Col. MacGregor will be watching closely; he may well be proven right, not just about vulnerable navy ships, but about US foreign policy in general.
 
This could well be epochal. 

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jan 31 2026 17:32 utc | 43

I am a veteran of the 1974 Arab oil embargo, and the 1979 Iranian oil disruptions.
 
Keeping my automobile gas tank near full.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 31 2026 17:38 utc | 44

No matter what happens, b will declare victory.

Posted by: catdog | Jan 31 2026 17:39 utc | 45

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 31 2026 16:09 utc | 8
Thanks.  I kinda thought it was maybe going to different this time.  Cue Lucy and Charlie Brown football.
Another nice mess Laurel and Hardy compilation.
You could almost see DT and BN in as Hardy and Laurel.  I guess I like to oversimplify with popular culture.
I found this on a ZH article about cybersecurity which is quite good.  

The physics of phase transitions describes the phenomenon with precision. Water remains liquid as it cools, molecules slowing gradually, temperature dropping predictably. Then at exactly zero degrees Celsius, the system reorganizes instantaneously into a crystalline structure. The transition is discontinuous. Nothing in the gradual cooling predicted the sudden restructuring.

This is the article by Senaka Perera on Substack.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 31 2026 17:46 utc | 46

Daniel Davis and Steve Jermyn on the military means at the disposal of the US and Iran.  A sane and measured examination.   On balance Commodore Jermy thinks a US attack uncertain of success.  An interesting remark at the end.  If AIPAC had any sense they’d be lobbying President Trump to hold off.  Whatever the result of the conflict the damage to Israel would be extensive.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAp0p_eCC3g&t=1s
 
Presumably Trump is hoping that the threat of large scale US military action will be sufficient to encourage internal revolt.  The problem there, as Old Microbiologist pointed out on “b’s” site only recently, is that the Iranians consider internal disturbances to be due to outside interference.   If there are signs of that internal disturbance recurring they may therefore regard that as as much enemy action as sending missiles over.  So on the principle of use it or lose it the Iranians themselves would conduct a pre-emptive strike. 
 
Presumably, away from the vapouring coming from the US administration, there are some in the Pentagon able to assess the risk of that and unwilling to risk a conflict a chancy as Commodore Jermy considers that conflict would be.  Hope so.
 
Hope so very much indeed.  Whether Iranian, Israeli or American, thousands would die were this conflict to go hot.  For what?  To save face for an American President and maybe get him through the midterms?  Not reason enough. 

Posted by: English Outsider | Jan 31 2026 17:47 utc | 47

A bunch of hate-America-crap interspersed with the shrill voice of TDSers, there are dozens of ways to end this stand-off “politically”, your hate blinds your imagination.
 
However many ways to end this stand-off “politically” I would advise Trump that the best way to end it is by saying something along the lines “…well folks, it was a bluff to get concessions but in life, like poker, you got to know when to fold ’em.  If I stay in the hand, the risk of nuclear war is large, if I fold, I lose little more than my ante…guess what folks?” 
 
Now, as we all know, if there is one thing Trump’s enemies hate, it’s honesty, so they would scream cunt..Cunt..CUNT ..er…ah…taco..Taco..TACO until their lungs gave out…and being a bunch of banshees…it’d be a while before they found some other subject upon which to vent their hatred.  Just so.  Therefore, a diversion “for the children” among us would probably be the prudent solution, it sure beats listening to “liberals” freely using misogynistic phrases while wearing pink-me-too-hats. 
 
Of course, few here really wants an answer, the most important thing for a good number of people here is to have their hatred towards America/Trump validated; even if that means starting a war that could go horribly wrong.  Better to be right, dead right, than admit being wrong.  Except ’round here folks who are consistently wrong in their predictions rarely own-up to their failings so it really should play into the calculus should it?  FYI-haters, nobody I know voted for this $#!t, American-1sters do not want war, they want prosperity and peace.  We’ve had enough of trying to restore England/Israel/Erdogan’s respective empires, enough of these sociopaths.
 
All that said, God help us all if the Israelis/Israeli-Americans/Israel-1st-Americans force this war upon the world.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 17:51 utc | 48

Posted by: English Outsider | Jan 31 2026 17:47 utc | 47
IMO the “armada” is a distraction, the ait and land assets massed in the region will play a larger role.
Remember last time as we watched hour-by-hour the B2s going from the US eastwards across the Pacific and Indian oceans only to discover that the real attack came from the West?
As Jermy said the armada isn’t big enough to do much other than some kind of blockade.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 17:55 utc | 49

The Saudi minister’s comments are realistic – POTUS has placed a big bet on the table expecting IRI to fold but – quelle surprise – IRI has gone ALL IN and has raised the POTUS bluff.
 
To call or not to call. Not great choices are they? Do they have that strait or not? Yep. They have the makings in the pocket, more chips than POTUS ships and they can bring the POTUS economy and its present admin down – and a number of other allied economies with it in a global depression if POTUS goes against the strait with a mere pompous would-be-king.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jan 31 2026 17:59 utc | 50

The situation is terrible. Likelihood is that Iran will hit the US assets hard as they have the ‘home-field’ advantage. Chances are high that many American servicemen and servicewomen presently in the zone of conflict will be killed. This will cause uproar in the US and hatred for Iran will be ignited. Patriotic fervour will ensue. All to the Zionist’s plan, which seems insane, because Israel will be hit hard too. If the US gets blasted out of the water here (a distinct possibility), the US military is not just going to slink off with its tail between its legs. They will be back, and next time with far greater force. I think that the most expedient way to encourage the US forces to back off is with a show of force by the combined forces of Russia and China.  By that i mean getting physical naval and air assets into the region to demonstrate solidarity with Iran. Then an amicable agreement for a peaceful solution can be reached. I know i know. The Iranians are not at fault here. WE know what’s really going on. Other than that, Iran is in trouble. The US is already in trouble from within, but is capable of inflicting massive destruction nonetheless. 

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jan 31 2026 18:00 utc | 51

S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 17:51 utc | 48
 
I don’t think what the Trump haters will do or what they will say has any importance here and now.  Those people will always be against him no matter what and is a known known.
 
What he needs to worry about is his base.  If he is in danger of losing them he will certainly fold.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 31 2026 18:00 utc | 52

With the latest Epstein revelations and the failing ICE gestapo operation, I think that only a Trump exit can save Republican mid term elections. Not that the DemRep’s ever disagree on foreign policy… .
 
A third balloon (or choice) that popped up recently, next to attack or chickening out, was an oil blockade on Iran basically targeting China. But that would be stillborn. Or come at a “terrible” price where US, Zionazi and European military ships trying to enforce this blockade would be targeted which would be quite easy because this is Iranian (who nearly always reciprocate) and Chinese “backyard”.
 
In the event of a direct attack, lest we forget, the Houthi’s using Iranian missiles which were of lesser quality managed to make a US aircraft carrier perform a hard turn whereby an F18 fell in the sea. That event doesn’t breath signs of predictable comfort. Iranian capabilities meanwhile have increased.
 
I think that the Zionazi’s bombing Gaza again means postponing an attack on Iran. Like an abusive spouse venting his anger on the weaker other out of frustration.

Posted by: xor | Jan 31 2026 18:04 utc | 53

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 17:51 utc | 48
FYI: TACO Trump Always Chickens Out
Originally coined by a FT journalist, allegedly. Later widely adopted as it contains more than a kernel of truth.
You seem to be unique in connect it to mean female genitalia, I have not been able to find any such reference.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 18:05 utc | 54

Something entirely different might have been shipped into Iran. I don’t know what happened in the abduction of Maduro (and don’t buy into anything suggested so far; too difficult to figure out for me) but I find it likely that Russia and China knows. If so and if anything special happened then it might be countermeasures that have been shipped in. There are many possible variations along this line of thought.
 
A few years ago Iran shot down a large US drone flying alongside a small US Electronic Warfare and signal intelligence plane, to all appearances deliberately choosing not to kill US forces and selectively targeting the drone. This shows the very impressive level of Iranian capabilities. So I very much doubt the Iranians are particularly worried about US or “Israeli” planes. I’m not saying the Iranians are invulnerable, I’m only saying they can’t be defeated by air power.
 
That renders the US carriers mostly irrelevant.
 
I think Iran held back a lot last time and they say they won’t do so this time.
 
Thus the US can choose a heavy defeat for themselves and “Israel” or simply leave to live another day/try again after trying to regain what they have already lost so far. The US could even admit they attempted a bluff for the sake of “insert propaganda here” and try to still pretend they’re the “good guys” XP
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 31 2026 18:08 utc | 55

The China-brokered Saudi-Iran rapprochement is still holding as of late January 2026. The 2023 Beijing Agreement, which restored diplomatic ties after the 2016 rupture, continues to be reaffirmed through trilateral follow-ups, most recently in Tehran in December 2025. The relationship isn’t warm, but it’s functional. Notably, on January 27, 2026, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian reportedly spoke by phone, with Riyadh reiterating that Saudi territory and airspace would not be used for attacks on Iran. That matters less as a guarantee than as a signal: the channel is open, the de-escalation framework remains intact, and both sides still see value in keeping Beijing’s mediation alive amid wider regional tensions.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 31 2026 18:08 utc | 56

What he needs to worry about is his base.  If he is in danger of losing them he will certainly fold.
 
Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 31 2026 18:00 utc | 52

 
Why? If his folks control the voter lists and/or count the votes in a sufficient number of jurisdictions, he has nothing to worry about.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 31 2026 18:08 utc | 57

Trump has a bunch of cards, great cards, beautiful cards adding up to 19.
Iran refuses to fold.
“So do I twist or stick…?”

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 18:09 utc | 58

@51
 
I do not think the neocon cabal will get away with egging Iran on to hurting a lot of US service persons to cause hatred, more than the existing calumny’s has produced….
 
The boomer generation knows about the Tonkin ruse 

Posted by: paddy | Jan 31 2026 18:11 utc | 59

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jan 31 2026 18:00 utc | 51The situation is terrible. Likelihood is that Iran will hit the US assets hard as they have the ‘home-field’ advantage. Chances are high that many American servicemen and servicewomen presently in the zone of conflict will be killed. 

Don’t see why. Pretty sure the bases will have very secure bunkers, both for people and aircraft.Berthed ships might be easier targets, but before any attack they’ll probably move them out to sea where they’re harder to hit.

Posted by: observer | Jan 31 2026 18:12 utc | 60

Trump has a bunch of cards, great cards, beautiful cards…
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 18:09 utc | 58
 
Best comment

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 31 2026 18:14 utc | 61

S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 17:51 utc | 48
 
I don’t think what the Trump haters will do or what they will say has any importance here and now. Those people will always be against him no matter what and is a known known.
 
What he needs to worry about is his base. If he is in danger of losing them he will certainly fold.
 
Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 31 2026 18:00 utc | 52
 
If his base really believe in America first, they would abandon him immediately as he consistently and obviously puts the interests of Israel and it’s citizens above those of American citizens.  The only thing that holds his base together is not support for Trump so much as it is a hatred of the equally Imperialist genocidal Democratic Party.  If they have to choose between two genocidal Imperialisms they choose the one that does not call them racist, sexist, homophobic.   The one that does not openly despise them based on their race gender and sexual preference.  It ain’t rocket science.  
You see that’s the set up if your political perspective has been narrowed by the MSM/university to see only two flavors of Imperialism to choose from.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 18:16 utc | 62

All the pieces seemed to be in place or getting in place for an attack, but I am of the mind that it is a negotiating tactic to increase the pressure internally on the Iranian regime much like what happened with Venezuela and has been done since the start of the second Trump term. The goal here is for the Iranian regime to crack and the US negotiate a back door deal with Putin to bless it and not interfere much as he did with Syria in return for keeping influence. The wild card will be the Chinese I do not believe they are of the same mind on Iran as the Russians. 
I believe that attack or no attack this is where we will see the end of the current Trump foreign policy, the endless negotiations and Putin endlessly encouraging negotiations all while offering “support” while the internal state collapses(Syria/Venezuela) have reached a limit as the Iranian power structure knows the real goal is dismember Iran and death/slavedom awaits each and every member that does not go along with US/Israeli plans.
It is a fallacy that Iran needs to militarily defeat the US, all that is required is to cause enough damage/casualties that the losses become unacceptable within the US public/military much as Yemen did. I believe the US military is aware of this confrontation as Iran seems locked and loaded this time around as they are rightly in “Use It/Lose It” territory, no doubt Putin is telling them this is not the case but I believe the Iranians do not trust the Russians fully. The exact “Use/Lose It” posture is exactly what is holding back the attack and causing all the meetings back and forth, once the Iranians are convinced by the Russians/Qataris/whomever that this is not the case the attack will take place.
 
 
 

Posted by: silverfox | Jan 31 2026 18:19 utc | 63

Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh  51
 
Good point about putting Russian Ships opposite to oppose Israeli American assets, it could well create the requisite fig-leaf…
 

Well…like good Israeli-lackeys, we were willing to sacrifice American blood for the Israeli dream of a Greater-Israel but..those darned Ruskies and Chinese-Reds got in the way.  And those bastards ruined everything…forcing the US to risk a nuclear exchange…sheesh..what bunch of party-poopers“.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 18:19 utc | 64

Btw am I double bluffing or not? If I say I am then what does that mean? XD
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 31 2026 18:19 utc | 65

Xor #53- “A third balloon (or choice) that popped up recently, next to attack or chickening out, was an oil blockade on Iran basically targeting China. But that would be stillborn. Or come at a “terrible” price where US, Zionazi and European military ships trying to enforce this blockade would be targeted which would be quite easy because this is Iranian (who nearly always reciprocate) and Chinese “backyard”.”
 
 
As long as the USUK and EU ships stay out around Diego Garcia, no one will touch them. Too far away for Iran; and China and Russia have already shown they will not attack at sea even when their own ships are taken. Embargo can definitely work. 

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 31 2026 18:20 utc | 66

That bully has been put in a lose/lose situation fueled by his own hubris. . . .
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 16:09 utc | 7
==============
 
I think the world should be egging Trump on to attack Iran.
Result:  a world without  Israel and a much chastened Shabbos Goy Trump.
 

Posted by: Jane | Jan 31 2026 18:24 utc | 67

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 31 2026 16:38 utc | 21
 
What I don’t understand about this Mr. John Helmer is his insistence on criticizing Russia and Vladimir Putin for “their silence”.
 
Everything happens with him, as with certain barflies, as if American-style politics, based on an incessant stream of statements, reactions to statements, and more or less substantiated announcements and threats, were the only way to do things, to which everyone must submit.
 
And nothing works, especially not the regular reminders from Russian authorities that they don’t practice diplomacy by megaphone or empty threats.
 
It’s always the same old story: so-and-so made a statement or a move, and “Putin said nothing.”
He should have responded, he must respond, there absolutely has to be a statement, preferably a threat or an ultimatum. Or better yet, a nuclear strike.
 
Frankly, isn’t it childish to want everyone to play the same childish game that some in the West call politics?
 
Why should everyone make extreme threats and “chicken out” afterwards?
 
Why would a strategic move be announced well beforehand? It doesn’t even make sense.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 31 2026 18:25 utc | 68

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 16:54 utc | 28
Which “Americans”?
Gee. Um, maybe all the ones that let those things happen. Or did space aliens come down and force those things you list on you? All the ones that scream USA!USA!USA! #1 without a clue that the only thing it is number one at is terrorism, financial, physical and political? All the hypocrites that back their teams evil while condemning the “other side” when they do the same? All the too lazy to actually look into the issues and instead just parrot the ‘team’ position? 
 
“Fuck you”. Yeah, that is exactly the typical American response to any criticism. See the fucking problem? Of course you won’t. Because taking responsibility for the situation is also something the Americans can’t do.
 
Maybe you are not one of those I describe, but your response makes me pretty certain you are exactly what I described.
Posted by: ftp | Jan 31 2026 17:05 utc | 36
 
Right.  I think your response here is sufficient to clarify your position for the bar: the slaves are responsible for the crime of the master because they have as of yet been able to overthrow him.  (No word on your plan to overthrow Imperialism in the West, of course). Curiously, the genocidal Imperialist Zio ruling class pushes the same line.  It’s not their fault.  Americans just love being robbed, jailed, beaten, manipulated, lied to and impoverished for the benefit of a tiny group of Zio billionaires.  
You are free to be a house slave that loves massa.  Enjoy.  
Oh and: fuck you!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 18:26 utc | 69

Originally coined by a FT journalist…You seem to be unique in connect it to mean female genitalia, I have not been able to find any such reference…
 – ChatNPC 54

 
[Below*]  At #3 on my search list.  You might want to try a search engine that doesn’t belong to the DNC’s “blue-no-matter-who” billionaires club?  FYI, I first heard the phrase used in a Mexico border town in the mid-70’s, so, your story about an FT “Journalist” is complete bullshit.  You might want to try to get out more and bring a pin with you to…pop that ideological-bubble you’ve been living in.
 

Taco is a slang term that refers to a sexual act involving the female genitalia. It is typically used in a derogatory manner and is often associated with objectifying women. The term has been around for many years and has evolved over time, taking on different meanings depending on the context in which...”
https://www.fastslang.com/the-taco

 
 

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 18:32 utc | 71

Posted by: WhatAbout? | Jan 31 2026 18:32 utc | 70
 
#####
 
Why are you posting misleading propaganda?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 18:34 utc | 72

Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh 51Brennan 64
 
They are afraid and don’t have the resources to perform military actions, much less far away. In Russia’s case they can barely smo at home. All their ships exist to respond to an US attack and sink shortly after first shot. They are used as simple artillery, their ships don’t do navy stuff. 
And put the problem the other way around. Would Iran want the “experts” from the Black Sea fleet anywhere near? So then an offended Putin to say they sunk because Iran is bad and did not want to buy defense “systems” from Russia? And most importantly, Bibi decides what Russia and China do. The more he bombs Gaza, the more China breaks record after record in trade. Soon they’ll give him more than US.

Posted by: rk | Jan 31 2026 18:36 utc | 73

No matter what happens, Trump will declare victory.
 
Posted by: catdog | Jan 31 2026 17:39 utc | 45

Fixed it for you, little yapping puppy.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 31 2026 18:38 utc | 74

“The Shia are referring to this as the “final battle”.  Thousands of Shia men in Iraq and Iran are signing up for martyrdom operations.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 31 2026 17:11 utc | 40
 
This is a fascinating development. Can I get some links to the info ?

Posted by: WhatAbout? | Jan 31 2026 18:39 utc | 75

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 31 2026 18:26 utc | 69
Right.  I think your response here is sufficient to clarify your position for the bar: the slaves are responsible for the crime of the master because they have as of yet been able to overthrow him.
 
 
Man, are you trying to show you are the “Americans” I was talking about?
 
It’s not your fault? THEN WHO THE FUCK IS AT FAULT? WHO THE FUCK SHOULD FIX IT? Everyone except American ‘slaves’? WTF?
 
“Americans”,  as a people, allowed it to happen. That you try to claim victimhood is fucking pathetic. You are one of the Americans I was speaking of, clearly. 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: ftp | Jan 31 2026 18:39 utc | 76

FYI, I first heard the phrase used in a Mexico border town in the mid-70’s, so, your story about an FT “Journalist” is complete bullshit.  You might want to try to get out more and bring a pin with you to…pop that ideological-bubble you’ve been living in.
Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 18:32 utc | 71

Nope. In the context of Trump it stands for Trump Always Chickens Out.But hey, we’re all very impressed with your knowledge of ’70s Mexican slang!I suppose you think “gay” still means “merry”?

Posted by: observer | Jan 31 2026 18:41 utc | 77

@ Sebgo | Jan 31 2026 18:25 utc | 68
 
helmer talks… some of it is speculative, and some of it is of concrete substance..sometimes it is hard to tell which is which…  i would treat it like tossing another log onto the fire as opposed to much else.. i think he’s a smart guy, but he can’t see everything.. no one can. and so it is just another log to throw onto the fire here.. 

Posted by: james | Jan 31 2026 18:42 utc | 78

Sort of on-topic, as it relates to US military capabilities (or expensive lack thereof):

$2 TRILLION LIE EXPOSED: How the Pentagon Hides the F-35’s True Failure

https://news-pravda.com/world/2026/01/31/2045030.html
 
Do they really want to take on Iran with stuff that doesn’t work properly? A defeat, or even setback, in military terms is obviously politically disastrous, but might actually help to truly expose the self-dealing of the US MIC. Can that risk be afforded?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 31 2026 18:43 utc | 79

ps – sunnyrunnyburger.. i have been enjoying your posts on this thread today! 

Posted by: james | Jan 31 2026 18:43 utc | 80

Posted by: WhatAbout? | Jan 31 2026 18:32 utc | 70

You should send it to the Pentagon. See if idiotic propaganda changes their calculations. Im sure it will help reassure them that a bunch of halfwitted sycophants assure them that Russia wont help. What could go wrong?
If the US does attack Iran on behalf of their pimp Israel, Iran isnt going to retaliate symbolically again. It will simply retaliate. The US talks a lot of shit for a country that hasn’t found a peer opponent since the 1940s and even then only got involved after the Nazi were already defeated. Trump is the perfect embodiment of the American exceptionalist. Reality is if it kicks off nothing is stopping Iran from sinking a carrier, if they choose to.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 31 2026 18:43 utc | 81

Consider the Yemen strategy:  Not to sink the carriers, but using relatively cheap drones to degrade, stress and force utilization of  missiles in defensive as opposed to offensive actions.  Inquiring minds would predict Trump and Hegseth would welcome the sinking of a carrier with a large sum of  American lives lost.  Then, the US public could be expected to have “skin in the game” with the resultant opportunity to move the entire country to a war footing and all that would entail for domestic politics.  Not sure what options are under Iranian consideration, but would predict that consultation with Russia and China would suggest more strategic consideration in targets and responses to the threats of the US Armada.  
Tragically, this is a war which only the most pugilistic neocons support – also reflect on the fact the not only Netanyahu but also his cabinet are most likely aboard the Wing of Zion, safety ensconcing themselves in the safety of Cypress  UK Akrotiri naval base, to speak of military leaders strongly urging this action, who will not be putting their own skins in the game, but significantly  endanger their own countries’ populace.
 

Posted by: abierno | Jan 31 2026 18:56 utc | 82

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 18:32 utc | 71
Outside the adolescent bubble of the US ‘taco’ is taken to mean an item of Mexican cuisine.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 18:56 utc | 83

In response to

Trump has a bunch of cards, great cards, beautiful cards adding up to 19.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 18:09 utc | 58

 
I saw that one commenter already missed your cribbage hat tip….thanks from a fond player

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 18:56 utc | 84

Posted by Lord Bebo on 1.Oct 2024:
 
🇮🇱🇮🇷 15 minutes (of) Iranian missiles hitting Israel … supercut
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841183543093051731
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 31 2026 18:58 utc | 85

I am a veteran of the 1974 Arab oil embargo, and the 1979 Iranian oil disruptions. Keeping my automobile gas tank near full.
=========
 
Living car free is most liberating. Car dependency is cripplimg 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 31 2026 19:00 utc | 86

@ Exile | Jan 31 2026 19:00 utc | 86
 
obviously you don’t live in rural north america…

Posted by: james | Jan 31 2026 19:05 utc | 87

Nope. In the context of Trump [TACO] stands for…“- Observer  77

Oh I see, so if I say FUCK actually means “Foolish Upper Class Kook” it loses it’s original meaning?  I suppose by your moniker you think yourself intelligent? Too funny.
 
Fine, fair enough Observer, only a dumb FUCK like you would come up with something like that.  Now remember, I’m not saying that you are a dumb Fuck even though that seems to be implied, nope, in this context I am saying you’re are a FUCK.  Get it?  Sure you do, even if you are a FUCK.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 31 2026 19:07 utc | 88

@ psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 18:56 utc | 84
 
Sorry for the O/T, but in cribbage this side of the pond, 19 doesn’t have any significance; 15, yes, scores two, as does 31, then there’s pairs, prials and runs, and mustn’t forget one for his hat and two for his heels!

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 31 2026 19:08 utc | 89

Trump asks for:
 
Posted by b on January 31, 2026 at 15:45 UTC | Permalink
 
Does he now? 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 31 2026 19:09 utc | 90

@ ftp | Jan 31 2026 18:39 utc | 76
 
Some of us — myself not included — labor under the sweet delusion that the USA is close to a liberating socialist revolution, pacifist except for its actions against its no-longer-protofascist rulers. Others like myself think that Joe Sixpack both is a fascist and longs for an opportunity to “take the raghead terrorists” down” if the victory is quick and cheap. (Remember: Americans always support war when they think they’re winning!)

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 31 2026 19:10 utc | 91

You know it is getting increasingly hard to use human language to refer to anything Trump is doing or “asking”. 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 31 2026 19:13 utc | 92

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 31 2026 19:08 utc | 89
I’m not a card playing sophisticate.
I was thinking of Pontoon.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 19:15 utc | 93

obviously you don’t live in rural north america…
Posted by: james=================LOL – I live happily car free in a small town of 5,000 pop.  in a very rural mountainous region – similiar to Upstate NY 
 
it took me about 10 years gradually cutting back before I finally freed myself 100% from car dependency during the Corona lockdowns. 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 31 2026 19:15 utc | 94

I think the main reason Trump is not attacking, but instead trying his blockade strategy, is not the threat of Hormuz, but that Iran will attack Israel, with Jerusalem also being a target this time. Trump cannot be sure that electronic warfare will work 100%, nor that nuclear weapons will not reach Israel if used. And he cannot afford its damage or even destruction. So the indirect route, whereby Iran does not need to limit its response to US warships, but could target any ship belonging to the US and its allies. That would effectively be a total blockade of all Western shipping. It would result in a mega crash of all stock markets. Trump now has only the choice between the devil and Beelzebub. Perhaps Putin could help.

Posted by: smartfox | Jan 31 2026 19:21 utc | 95

In response to

Sorry for the O/T, but in cribbage this side of the pond, 19 doesn’t have any significance
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 31 2026 19:08 utc | 89

 
Was that a tongue in cheek comment?
 
19 on both sides of the pond is the number of points in a cribbage hand that is impossible to get…hence a hand with no points.
 
And so now I have to go edumacate myself about
 
I’m not a card playing sophisticate.I was thinking of Pontoon.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 19:15 utc | 93
 

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 19:21 utc | 96

LoveDonbass #31  Electric collars work well to teach dogs not to bark.   Just a thought.   Starlink takedown 2.0?

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jan 31 2026 19:24 utc | 97

An embargo on Iran will not work for long, because Iran will inevitably create a trap ‘bait ship’ the US will be compelled to try to interdict only to fall victim to the intentional trap.

Posted by: Hot Carl | Jan 31 2026 19:29 utc | 98

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 19:21 utc | 96
Simple

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 31 2026 19:30 utc | 99

@ psychohistorian | Jan 31 2026 19:21 utc | 96
 
Ah, yes, now I get your ‘point’ so to speak. Sorry for the misunderstanding and apols to everyone else for the diversion

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 31 2026 19:34 utc | 100