Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 9, 2026
Winter Strikes Kiev

Last night Ukraine was finally confronted with the consequences of attacking Russian infrastructure.

And no, I do not mean last nights Oreshnik strike on the large gas storage facility in west Ukraine. The seismic impulse from that strike likely damaged the geological structure that allowed the gas to be stored in caverns. It can now escape and has been seen burning. Those were the Ukrainian reserves for the rest of the winter. The strike was in revenge for the late December drone strike on Russia’s strategic command facility and Putin’s home near Novgorod. It was also a warning, mostly to Europe.

But the real hurt came with a medium-sized drone and missile strike on Kiev. At least three combined-thermal-electric facilities were taken out. These used to provide water, heating and electricity to the blocks of Soviet era high rises that cover much of Kiev. These strikes, as the Russian Ministry of Defense empathizes in its reports, are in retaliation for strikes on Russian infrastructure facilities. Russia at a time, offered a ceasefire on infrastructure strikes. Ukraine did not keep to it.

Now nearly half of Kiev’s high-rise apartments have lost water, heating and electricity supplies. This while the temperature has gone down to minus 20° Celsius at night. Municipal workers have started to drain (in Russian) all water from intra-house systems. Otherwise the risers and pipes would freeze and break open. But it also means that water and heat supplies will not come back to those high-rises until the temperatures are back in a positive Celsius range.

The buildings have thus become unlivable. Hundreds of thousands if not millions will have to live elsewhere.

The mayor of Kiev Vladimir Klitschko has called on residents to leave the capital:

Half of Kyiv’s apartment buildings, almost 6,000, are currently without heat supply after critical infrastructure in the capital was damaged in a large-scale Russian attack.

“Municipal workers have connected social facilities – in particular hospitals and maternity hospitals – to mobile boiler houses. And together with energy workers they are working to bring electricity and heat supply back to Kyiv residents’ homes,” Klitschko said.

He added that the combined attack on Kyiv on the night of 8-9 January was the most painful for the capital’s critical infrastructure facilities.

“City services are operating under emergency conditions. And unfortunately weather conditions are forecast to be difficult in the coming days.

I also appeal to residents of the capital who have the opportunity to temporarily leave the city and go where there are alternative sources of power and heat, to do so,” Klitschko concluded.

A similar situation exist in Dnipro, one of Ukraine’s most industrial cities, since yesterday.

During the war the parts of the Ukrainian population that were not directly involved in fighting seemed to have little interest in what was happening. There was still a lot of nightlife in Kiev, all goods were available and even the few short interruptions of electricity were not much to bother with.

This will now change. Electricity is off for most of the time. Shops are closing because running business on generators is unprofitable. Local public transport is mostly down. Longer range tail transport is interrupted. Apartments are unlivable. The consequences of the war have become personal.

This will change the mood even of those who want to prolong the war. The numbers of those willing to accept the loss of territory in exchange for peace will rise.

After a while a change of policies will follow for this.

Comments

Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 11:40 utc | 307
 
The Oreshnik warheads can be programmed individually with very accurate CEP (circular error of probability). As such, they can be programmed to individually hit access points and surface-to-sub-surface connections to the reservoir.
The storage itself is probably intact, but hitting the pumps, compressors and sub-surface tunnels can render the storage un-utilizable, which is most likely what happens. The area has been hit in the past by Kinzhals, cruise missiles and drones, most likely impacting surface infrastructure, pumps, pipes etc.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 11:43 utc | 301

Is that why – give or take – 60% of adults vote for AIPAC stooges, and the remaining 40% can’t be arsed to vote for, let alone campaign for the only opposition party with a believable anti-war, pro-Palestine and anti-zionism stance?

 
Juan Moment: “only” opposition party? In addition to Jill Stein (I hesitate to say “The Green Party” because it fielded Howie Hawkins in the 2020 election) there’s a small handful of Marxist parties. But in several states the only option was not to vote, because the Duopoly forbade all of these parties from appearing on ballots, and additionally several states don’t allow write-ins.
 
Do keep in mind that roughly half of the eligible population does not vote at all, and it’s difficult to argue with those who believe that it’s not worth the trouble.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 11:57 utc | 302

who called onto the streets?NABU is an US FBI tool. Guess who saw his lever being removed and acted.Today the majority of “popular uprising” is orchestrated from outside.( and the “controlled crouds” displace those with a real grivance )
Posted by: MAKK | Jan 10 2026 11:37 utc | 306

 
Yeah, NABU is an US FBI tool, thats why I wrote “supposed independence”, but thats beside the point.
 
Unlike your “Today the majority of ‘popular uprising’ is orchestrated from outside”, which is exactly the problem. If it takes outside players to coordinate and marshall protestors, because people without being poked by the CIA et al are too submissive or asleep at the wheel to speak up, then good night Irene. They deserve every bit of distress coming their way.
 
Re your “and the “controlled crouds” displace those with a real grivance”, I highly doubt that. If people with actual deeply held discontent and irritation would hit the streets in massive numbers, they wouldn’t give two shits about paid agitators.
 
Its possible to come up with a litany of excuses for why people fed up with their governments feel powerless. In the end that all they are: Excuses.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Jan 10 2026 12:03 utc | 303

Posted by: Juan Moment | Jan 10 2026 12:03 utc | 310
(remote) controlled groups are much better organized
( top down with central steering ) and bankrolled.
They get associated media attention in sync.
“real” grassroots activism is invariably less organized
IMU perfect example for how this is “worked” was Ukraine and _Syria_
 

Posted by: MAKK | Jan 10 2026 12:12 utc | 304

A little context on the gas situation.
 
 
The 5 year contract of the Ru to EU pipeline via UA ended in 2025.
UA got a lot of money from Ru for transit even during the war.   
This has now stopped so all the gas there was for local consumption. It could be taken out. 
 
 
Not that this is good news for Europe, they have already maneuvered themselves in a critically vulnerable position towards both Russia and US. 
 
The gas delivered to EU now goes via the ‘safe’ pipeline Turkstream with no benefit or control for UA. 
That is less than before since our idiot EU leaders decided to phase out Russian gas and buy even more expensive LNG.   
 
So another tip for What can Russia do?:
 
30% of that LNG comes from Norway via pipelines.
Would be a real shame if some would blow up. 
After all, it happened before and with no consequences.
 
An even more stunningly idiotic decision than ending vital Russian supply is replacing most of it (70%+) with LNG from the fascist US. 
This means we are now at the mercy of this whimsical lunatic that can cripple us at any moment if he has his period.   
And Russia could hit 2 birds with one stone if they were even bolder and somehow a US LNG ship or two had an accident.   
It would be quite the fireworks.  
What crew would be prepared to make the next trip  knowing they would be traveling on a huge floating bomb with nowhere to escape?
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 10 2026 12:31 utc | 305

@b Tagesschau reports “Oreschnik” worth 25m to 30m per shot was used to attack a garage and damage was minor. It was just a sign to the EU that Russia can attack anything. And NATOs “Arrow 3” can defend against it.
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/russland-oreschnik-ukraine-100.html
So overall it’s useless, Ukraine is still winning and we should continue support Ukraine.
No connection between “Oreschnik” and the destroyed gas storage:
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/ukraine-russland-krieg-energieversorgung-100.html

Posted by: Ali | Jan 10 2026 12:41 utc | 306

As the depopulation to the last ukropian proceeds one way or another – the Ziolords have changed the ‘law’ of Ukraine so they can pick up the land and it’s resources for cheap cheap cheap … expecting to profit from it in the future- through some kind of bargain or supposed contract – that will allow them to claim their pounds of flesh forever! 
 
Read about it here and then the follow up about whom exactly is getting first dibs on the carve up. 
 

🇺🇦 Ukraine Opens the Door to Western Land Takeover
 
Starting next week, foreigners will be able to buy Ukrainian land by obtaining Ukrainian citizenship, according to the Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation.
 
On January 16, Law No. 4502-IX on multiple citizenship comes into force. Under this law, Ukraine recognizes dual citizenship with a list of countries approved by the Cabinet of Ministers in November: the United States, Canada, Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic.
 
Previously, under a 2020 law, agricultural land could be purchased only by Ukrainian citizens. Foreigners were supposed to gain this right only through a national referendum on the issue. No such referendum has been held, nor is one planned.
 
However, from January 16, citizens of the listed countries will be able to bypass this restriction by acquiring Ukrainian citizenship and purchasing land on the same terms as other Ukrainians.
 
The Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation notes that proposed amendments to delay this mechanism by 3 or 5 years were rejected during the consideration of the multiple citizenship law.
 
🔴 @DDGeopolitics

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 10 2026 12:42 utc | 307

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 10 2026 4:53 utc | 250
From the article:

Notably the Embassy of Qatar in Kyiv appears to have been directly hit, likely by a drone, or else possibly from missile debris.

Looking at the pictures it looks more typical of damage from a wayward NATO “air-defence” missile, especially the internal one with a few windows blown in and messed up roller blinds. We might hope a RF drone would do a bit more damage.
The quote should read:

Notably the Embassy of Qatar in Kyiv appears to have been directly hit, likely by a drone, or else possibly from missile debris.

IMO

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 12:57 utc | 308

So food can be frozen stored outside, but you need heat to defrost and cook. Starvation. Thirst. Toilets frozen and cannot empty.Car and van and lorry engines can be so frozen up, no heat to warm them up…means transport is in extreme difficulties.
 
No amount of candles and such can keep an apartment warm for elderly to survive. Social services such as care workers, doctors nurses, emergency staff may not be able to operate at all. Small batteries easily lose their power in such cold. Some people may be rich enough to have large power bank batteries for computers and to recharge mobile phones. Analogue phones may still work to some degree.
Businesses and companies will slowly stop working. More people’s may need medical attention through injuries in the cold let alone medical conditions become exacerbated, and how to deliver collect medicines from pharmacies. Lifts may not work in such  high rise buildings so how can the elderly and people with mobility problems climb up 17 stories.
Etc. It has all been so unecessary since April 2022.

Posted by: Jo | Jan 10 2026 13:00 utc | 309

Judging by gas pressure dropping all over Ukraine, it could be plausible to assume the 17bn cubic meter gas storage was wrecked in a way that pressure loss is unavoidable, and gas pipelines through Ukraine are without pressure. Even if the gas storage were intact, the connections to it have been disabled. That also applies to EU who can no longer pump gas to EU countries from it.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 13:04 utc | 310

Poison Frog’s explainer:
https://t.me/fred33flint/21097
Can Oreshnik break geology? Maybe, seems it was worth a shot to find out…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 13:07 utc | 311

So food can be frozen stored outside, but you need heat to defrost and cook. Starvation. Thirst.
 
Posted by: Jo | Jan 10 2026 13:00 utc | 316
 

 
Water water, everywhere, Nor any drop to drink.
 

Posted by: too scents | Jan 10 2026 13:09 utc | 312

@ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 12:57 utc | 315
 
The picture suggests only the windows suffered.   
That happens in a wide radius of an explosion from pressure and in no way does it suggest this building was targeted.  
On the contrary, it wouldn’t look like that if they wanted it gone.   
But who expects truth from Qatari snakes?  
It’s a non-event worth ignoring.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 10 2026 13:12 utc | 313

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 10 2026 13:12 utc | 320
PAC-3 interceptor wunderwaffen mistook it for a drone.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 13:15 utc | 314

Starmer and Merz are going psychotic, freaking out over the Oreshnik launch. Combined with total media black-out, it’s plausible to assume it caused serious carnage.
 
There are also geolocated reports that at least some of the Oreshnik warheads struck the Lvov aircraft repair plant, a potential storage for F-16s and possible Nato command post location.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubhx_3a_4gY

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 13:17 utc | 315

Start Prepping  my fellow Barflies.
 
a propane grill ✅
a little PV system for camping ✅
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 10 2026 13:24 utc | 316

In addition to Jill Stein (I hesitate to say “The Green Party” because it fielded Howie Hawkins in the 2020 election) there’s a small handful of Marxist parties. But in several states the only option was not to vote, because the Duopoly forbade all of these parties from appearing on ballots, and additionally several states don’t allow write-ins. […]
 
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 11:57 utc | 309

 
No doubt there are other options besides Jill Stein. I found the policy planks on which the Libertarian Party ran also a thousand times better than the shite the RepDems proposed. The important aspect to voting third party is the traitorous uniparty realises it can no longer take the votes of large sections of society for granted. That there will potentially be severe electoral consequences for the monkey business they get up to. At the moment there are none.
 
If indeed, as is stated here at MoA frequently, there is sizeable portion of the US population frustrated and angry with the two party establishment, yet for whatever reason they don’t support those folks who are actually trying to change the political landscape, well then Americans might as well start waving the white flag, bend over, and get ready for a livelong rectal hammering. But please do us non-Americans a favor, and stop whinging about how it hurts.
 
 

Do keep in mind that roughly half of the eligible population does not vote at all, and it’s difficult to argue with those who believe that it’s not worth the trouble.

 
I keep that in mind. Like I keep it in mind that there are people fully aware the neighbor is abusing his kids, but don’t do nothing to stop it because “its not worth the trouble”. I know they exist, I just can’t relate.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Jan 10 2026 13:27 utc | 317

Anyway, revised answer to how long it takes for the Oreshnik to get from Kiev to Lvov – “By chrise Boss, ‘im dere already!”  …
 
Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 10 2026 10:43 utc | 301

lol. Thanks, General. I think the rectangular thingy was the bottom of my bottle last night.

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 10 2026 13:47 utc | 318

“Half of Kiev needs to be evacuated. Laugh my ass off. Why can’t the Untied States protect its friends?”
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 10 2026 0:10 utc | 193
 
To be fair,  600, ooo Belograd residents are currently out of power & 200,000 have no water.
Hence, probably temporarily finding a place with water and heat also.
Belogrod has been droned nearly EVERY single day since SMO began…
 
RF a lot closer than US,  and doesn’t seem to be able to do squat about “protecting” Belogrod.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 13:50 utc | 319

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 13:04 utc | 317

For a worthwhile read and introduction to natural gas pumping and distribution :

https://bluegasexpress.com/natural-gas-pumping/

Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 13:53 utc | 320

Posted by: Exile | Jan 10 2026 13:24 utc | 323

I recommend a Dutch Oven…

Posted by: Nobody | Jan 10 2026 14:31 utc | 321

600, ooo Belograd residents are currently out of power & 200,000 have no water.

Source? Also, source that if this is the case, the outage is due to enemy action and not weather-related. 
 
 
 

Posted by: Milton | Jan 10 2026 14:31 utc | 322

@ Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 13:50 utc | 326
 
If you can’t get the name of the city right, why should I take your numbers on faith?

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 14:37 utc | 323

Population of Belogrod : 384,425 estimate
Much less than 600,000.

From website : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgorod

Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 14:45 utc | 324

@robin #284 08:49

I have already mentioned my regret for the disrespectful reply you rightly condemn.

As for the discussion you propose, Mr.LoveDonbass’ penchant for (certainly well meaning) tales of “wisdom” and consolation, much in the vein of Voltaire’s Professor Pangloss, makes the idea unfeasible for me.

This also applies to many other “creative” and “free flowing” interpretations, regularly dumped here…

I will leave the task to someone smarter and better equipped than me.

In any case, thank you for your reply.

Posted by: MoaMetal | Jan 10 2026 14:46 utc | 325

Where as Belgorood Oblast has estimated population of 1.5 millon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgorod_Oblast

Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 14:51 utc | 326

It would also be interesting to compare the length of time the power is out in Belgorod Oblast with the length of time gas supply in Ukronazistan is disrupted due to the Oreshnik strike.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 14:56 utc | 327

Yesterday, after overnight strikes by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, 556,000 people in six municipalities of the Belgorod region were left without electricity, the same number without heat, and 200,000 without water. I am staying in touch with dozens of Belgorod residents. Some were lucky – they received power and heat ahead of schedule, while others are still without power. The real heroes of the past few days are the power workers, both Belgorod residents and those assigned to them. Despite the constant risk of shelling, they are waging a round-the-clock battle for survivability in the region. What is known so far?
✔️ Currently, regional authorities are addressing pressing issues: water delivery to apartment buildings, restoring cellular service, temporary warming stations (temperatures outside are -5 Celsius), and grocery stores.
✔️ Authorities are summing up the initial results of their work. The exact number of buildings without power and heat is being determined, and a list of multi-story buildings and social infrastructure facilities where power has already been restored is being compiled. This is being done to avoid confusion and to focus utility efforts on the most critical areas.
✔️ Backup power generation is gradually being established, and regular fuel deliveries to generators are being organized. According to Governor Gladkov, multi-family housing is the priority, with the economy taking second place.
✔️ A call center is being established to collect resident requests and distribute them to specific responders in the districts. On the first day of the blackout, the inability to receive feedback from local residents significantly complicated the authorities’ efforts to address the crisis.
✔️ Mobile phone charging stations are being set up, primarily in the entrances of apartment buildings, stores, and social centers. Gladkov acknowledged that on the first day of the crisis, the region lacked mechanisms for disseminating vital information to the public.
✔️ Snow removal efforts in Belgorod continue despite the blackout. More than 540 specialists and 46 pieces of equipment are involved. The main objectives are road and sidewalk safety, courtyard cleanup, and access to bus stops and medical facilities.
✔️ By 5:00 PM, water supply was restored in the central districts of Belgorod. Problems remain in the northern parts of the regional center, but authorities promise to resolve them by the end of the day.
The region, having suffered a severe blow, is gradually recovering from its aftermath. The efforts of thousands of specialists are gradually beginning to bear fruit. It is still difficult to say when electricity, water, and heat supplies will be fully restored in the region. However, work is underway, and results are already being achieved. The entire country is literally fighting for the region.

https://t.me/llordofwar/551472

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 10 2026 15:03 utc | 328

I’m looking to find out why nearly all high ranking Nazis had Jewish names. Also wouldn’t mind knowing why this is of no interest to all who post here. Not a single thought as to what was going on from any of you.
Posted by: interesting | Jan 10 2026 1:28 utc | 217

———-
 
You want a single thought? You have it backwards, the question should be: why did German Jews adopt Christian German surnames? The answers are obvious, one, to blend in, and two it was good for business.  I grew up and worked with numerous Canadian Jews with the Anglo last name “Brown”. It was an easy transition from Bronstein, Bronfman, or whatever.
 
Now do us all a favour and stop reposting this.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jan 10 2026 15:12 utc | 329

@Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 14:45 utc | 331
Is this a joke?  
You twice can’t get the name right?   
Not as bad as the other guy who calls it Belograd, which is Beograd, the capital of Serbia.   
Then again, he is american so probably Serbia might as well be somewhere in Russia for all he knows.  
But more importantly, learn not to use Shitipedia as a source.   
Their census is from 2021.    
Accurate numbers from 2026 show 421000 inhabitants.
 
 

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 10 2026 15:18 utc | 330

It must be said that the rioting regime changers in Iran aren’t good news. But for connoisseurs of hypocrisy it’s interesting to compare the BBC coverage of “protesters” in Iran, burning buildings and beating police officers to death, with their coverage of “rioters” on January 6th 2021, waving flags and putting their feet on desks.  

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 10 2026 15:20 utc | 331

“This will change the mood even of those who want to prolong the war. The numbers of those willing to accept the loss of territory in exchange for peace will rise.
 
After a while a change of policies will follow for this.”
 
We have been hearing such wishful thinking since the beginning of this war. It never happens because nobody cares what Ukrainians think or like or want and they have no influence on anything. 

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 10 2026 15:41 utc | 332

“It must be said that the rioting regime changers in Iran aren’t good news. But for connoisseurs of hypocrisy it’s interesting to compare the BBC coverage of “protesters” in Iran, burning buildings and beating police officers to death, with their coverage of “rioters” on January 6th 2021, waving flags and putting their feet on desks.”
 
Double standards. Yup. So what? It works.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 10 2026 15:43 utc | 333

Some basic geology and “kettle physics” is enough isn’t it?
 
Geology is so many different things, lots of “geology” can’t even support itself above certain thresholds, in fact that applies to all of it and is one reason why we don’t have higher mountains! XD
 
I loved to pick “geology” apart with my bare hands when very young; like graphite and slate (flaky rocks), and then there is the universal favorite: sand.
 
Gas and oils are trapped in pockets of geology, sometimes voids. Often in “geology” that is porous and spongy-like with lots of tiny voids and openings in them. Some large volumes, many small. Fracking is about crushing any obstructing “geology” to create access to more. It doesn’t have to take much force but more force widens the applicability.
 
All of this stuff is often trapped under layers of harder and load-bearing “geology”, if that cracks then gases escape and petroleum might seep up due to internal pressure. This happens naturally in many places in the world (Azerbaijan is famous for it).
 
So if what is posited (target, weapon, etc.) happened we could call it a “crack and frack attack” XD
 
The heat imparted will create pressure which helps force the gas out. Lots of heat making lots of pressure; the two are the same thing.
 
If something ignites you get more heat imparted.
 
Disclaimer: I don’t know what happened etc. but I don’t see anything outrageous in what “b” wrote and no science fiction either since judging by Yuzhmash whatever the Oreshniks do the assumption has to be that they manage to hit very deep and hard.
 
And btw at some point of x amount of gas escaped and y amount of cracks there will be absolutely no way to economically repair anything or ever use it again or in any way economically gain access to whatever may remain. Those threshold may well have been reached with the attack; we just don’t know yet. Lots of stuff in our world is “marginal” and “just barely” to begin with and not in a bad way but simply because it is possible and very helpful/useful.
 
Anyway if nothing else I hope this comment may function as a “sanity check”.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 10 2026 15:45 utc | 334

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 10:09 utc | 295
 
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I have no deep insight but my understanding is that the sky over the area of the strikes has been a light magenta hue, some speculation is that was caused by burn off or some effect of the release of gasses.
 
What I think we can be sure of is that it will be a chilly week in Western Ukraine.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 15:56 utc | 335

https://t.me/s/CyberspecNews
Kyiv is without water, heat, and light: the systems have been shut down. Public transport is also not working, – Kiev City State Administration.And it’s currently -10°C outside…
Hmm, guess the residents of Kiev are getting their first real taste of the war.  I hope that Russia keeps up the strikes until no major city has power, hoping that will hasten the end of the war…
 

Posted by: ctiger | Jan 10 2026 16:03 utc | 336

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 13:50 utc | 326
 
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I have spent many years living in very rural environs where electricity supply was fragile due to high winds and icing weighing down and breaking power lines.
 
Water being out is usually an electricity issue. No pumping, no water. No power, no pumping.
 
For people living outside of metropolitan areas in the Northern Hemisphere, it is sorta normal.
 
What is not normal is what Russia did to Kiev, which will require substantial and time-consuming repair of legacy equipment such that an evacuation was ordered.
 
Is that “fair”?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 16:07 utc | 337

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 10 2026 15:45 utc | 341
 
Is your sanity check really useful?
 
Some people simply want to say that Russia used an expensive, high-tech missile just to block the gas outlets from this reservoir. Much ado about nothing.
 
Nothing has been lost, and it would only be a matter of time before a workaround is found to regain access to the gas and reuse the infrastructure.
 
The fiery red glows in the sky would be nothing more than a harmless natural phenomenon, and all the hype about the Oreshnik missile would be nothing but propaganda.
 
From this perspective, no argument can shake those who cling to their “nothing to see here” narrative.
 

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 16:09 utc | 338

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 15:56 utc | 342
 
For comparison, search for images of the sky around a volcano with molten lava  in the night.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 16:12 utc | 339

$90 Propane Grill Walmart Special
 
Re: Dutch Oven
 
thats a good solution, but a bit hard core for most people. Hence my reccomendation to get a propane grill wagon thats available at any hardware store. Advantage is its usefull even during normal times. Link above is s typical cheepie version
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 10 2026 16:19 utc | 340

https://substack.com/home/post/p-184081438
A good post that mentions what I’ve been saying as applied to Ukraine and the West. They have plenty of IT people but not supporting engineers or technicians to design and build – in this case, weapons. It’s structural incapacity

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 10 2026 16:22 utc | 341

“Sebgo” for sure it won’t help anyone who insist on being insane (unexplained but “natural” (and everything is always “natural” anyway) red/pink/magenta/whatever glows in the sky lasting for how long? There has to be a cause) …but then there is the rest of us (hopefully lol) who are trying to understand what actually happened or at least figure out what is a reasonable possibility or not :3
 
So yeah, definitely of limited use and in a better human world it would be completely unnecessary.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 10 2026 16:23 utc | 342

Apparently the Baby Shah has just called for a general strike in Iran as well as massive disruptive actions…….

Posted by: Exile | Jan 10 2026 16:28 utc | 343

Posted by: Exile | Jan 10 2026 16:19 utc | 347
 
But we still need to be sure that when the need arises, the propane supply will be guaranteed.
 
That’s not exactly the kind of assurance one can have during a crisis.
 
Where I live, we use butane instead of propane, and there are regular supply disruptions, without crisis.
So much for the “back up” purpose.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 16:31 utc | 344

Posted by: Exile | Jan 10 2026 16:28 utc | 350
 

Apparently the Baby Shah has just called for a general strike in Iran as well as massive disruptive actions……

 
So Bibi Netanyahou’s best buddy is really dreaming to make a “come back”.
 
He has spent 25 years in the west and know nothing about this country. Or must I say his father’s country.
And yet, they think he can run Iran.
 
Those guys are just insane…

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 16:36 utc | 345

Among the scant online references to something called “Oreshnik” we find real sobriety from Col. MacGregor, as usual, reading the strike on Lviv as confirmation of  checkmate for NATO.
 
But we also hear Danny Davis interviewing Professor Theodore Postol, whose little calculator has convinced him Oreshnik isn’t much more than a loud firecracker. YT comments under something like this are interesting — contributors there are gobsmacked that Postol, the wizened professor, subscribes to children’s fairy tales about Yuzhmash.
 
A total fraud — at MIT? Well, I’ll be scuppered.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 10 2026 16:41 utc | 346

Dima says that the Oreshnik did not cause any damage. The Russians merely fired into the forest as a demonstration to warn the Europeans.
 

Posted by: guest from franconia | Jan 10 2026 16:43 utc | 347

He has spent 25 years in the west and know nothing about this country. Or must I say his father’s country.And yet, they think he can run Iran. Those guys are just insane…
Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 16:36 utc | 352

It wasn’t really his fathers country either.
He was installed by the British ( after some unpleasant termination of a more or less democratic leadership )

Posted by: MAKK | Jan 10 2026 16:47 utc | 348

@ exile re: winter prepping for heat
 
In my small house, I have yet to install a small wood stove for the living room. 
 
When the whole kerfuffle with Russia began in 2014, the year my daughter was born, I took to investigate several self-sufficient means of cooking/heating. 
 
In addition to your solar PV system for lights/charging devices/and refrigerator emergency, the problem of basic heating for your living area still remains. 
 
Wood stove is ideal but I also investigated “candle” candles and Terra cotta garden pots for radiating small amounts of heat (just enough to make it) in your living area. TONS of videos and experiments on YouTube, but I think I will try this one soon as it solves the problem of heat loss towards the ceiling with passive systems involving the terracotta garden pots. It involves a metal elbow joint for stoves and a computer fan with a 9v battery…could be solar too. 
 
This metal side table from ikea has a lip for knock-over safety that could happen from pets or small children and is very sturdy.
 
For cooking I like a small Coleman camping stove that uses white gas…very shelf stable. 

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 10 2026 16:47 utc | 349

@ Aleph_Null | Jan 10 2026 16:41 utc | 353
 
is there a possibility postol was told to tone it down?  
 
on a related note, this book i am reading by francesca albanese ”a moon will rise from the darkness” – she mentions the role MIT plays in helping contribute to the genocide in gaza/palestine..  she names names or various corporations and etc. etc. which is very much the reason she’s been censored especially by rubio and the trump admin.. 

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2026 16:47 utc | 350

Ughhh…lack of preview function strikes again. Should read: “crisco” candles. 

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 10 2026 16:48 utc | 351

Is that “fair”?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 16:07 utc | 344
 
Of course it is.
Remembering of course the numerous attacks by Ukraine on oil refineries , oil storage tanks (last week)  drone of oil carrying ships,  attacks on grids.  That although considered “pin pricks” still require repair time, manpower and replacement equipment… in other words “costs”.
 
Taking 50% out when Russia could have taken a 100% of the storage takes in Ukraine seems benevolent.
 
Since Moscow theatre massacre, van/drone attacks on RF nuclear triad, assassinations of acting Generals, a recent attack on Presidential residence & command communication pod, this “benevolence” of leaving 50% of storage tanks in place,  not at any one of these occurrences, changing vaunted SMO to a Declaration of War,  well, benevolence is pretty much bordering on treason…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 16:50 utc | 352

Lots of speculation here as to whether the Oreshnik damaged the underground natural gas storage reservoir or not.
 
Consider:
 

Oxygen is required for a natural gas explosion. For an explosion to occur, three conditions must be met simultaneously: a flammable gas concentration within the explosive limits, sufficient oxygen to support combustion, and an ignition source. Natural gas, primarily composed of methane, requires oxygen to undergo combustion, which is the chemical process behind an explosion. The mixture of natural gas and air must fall within the flammable range—typically between 5% and 15% gas by volume—to be explosive.

 
Since air and an ignition source were present, we have to conclude natural gas was not. Therefore is very unlikely that the structural integrity of the deep natural gas storage was impacted, otherwise there would be much larger explosions, over a longer period of time.
 
Perhaps, and this is obviously speculative, this was a message/warning from Russia/Putin. Just as the drones near his residence were a message/warning to him.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jan 10 2026 16:58 utc | 353

…..candles and Terra cotta garden pots for radiating small amounts of heat…..
 
an excellant Solution for specific situations. A buddy of mine uses this solution as a heat booster in his Apartment 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 10 2026 17:02 utc | 354

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 16:50 utc | 359
 
#####.
 
If you know anything about Russian history, you’d know what Ukraine has done thus far are, at best, mosquito bites.
 
Wake me up when NATO tanks are outside the Kremlin.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:05 utc | 355

This thread has been busy with a lot speculation around Oreshnik, and I am guilty of adding many pointless points to it. So let me now suggest we dig a little more into what is going on in Kiev. If they have to evacuate the city in winter conditions without power this will be a catastrophe. Skimming the Kiev Independent website, there are no signs of major distress. So what is happening?

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 10 2026 17:06 utc | 356

Posted by: MAKK | Jan 10 2026 16:47 utc | 355
 
It’s a bit more complicated than that.
 
The country was already a constitutional monarchy before his grandfather seized power by force and proclaimed himself emperor (Chah) in place of the previous one.
 
His father, having succeeded the first of the dynasty, had the elected prime minister, a nationalist, arrested, which led to his removal by the people for the first time. A dispute about giving all the country oil to an English company.
 
Uncle Sam and London bombed Iran and regime-changed the elected government to reinstate him, before the Islamic Revolution finally ousted him later.
 
He took his crown prince with him, the current Western puppet who claims to govern Iran.
 
PS: The English oil company for witch Teheran was bombed changed its name because of the bad buzz.
It’s known today as BP.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 17:06 utc | 357

With lack of visual evidence of damage to the gas storage site after the reported atttacks, some websites have offered up for public consumption their own.

” A part of what Ukraine’s security service alleges is a Russian nuclear-capable hypersonic Oreshnik missile system is shown amid Russia’s attack on Ukraine, in an unidentified location the in Lviv region. (Security Service of Ukraine/Reuters)”
pic. link
https://i.cbc.ca/ais/a1ffdf6a-1eed-48dd-98c2-54909617f06e,1768001452599/full/max/0/default.jpg?im=Crop%2Crect%3D%28152%2C6%2C1027%2C577%29%3BResize%3D1179

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-russia-missile-9.7039207

The sources are well noted before any serious consideration exercised by the poster here.
Or as regular poster here might say, on account of being reuters ; “ProlliBollox”.

Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 17:08 utc | 358

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 10 2026 15:20 utc | 338
 
Hahaha…. The british bullshit corporation will never let anyone know how shitty life is now in the “uk”. Iranians might actually be happier. That’s what is so sad. Life in the “west” – the EU, UK, and US – has deteriorated to the point where people who were alive during the last half of the 20th century wouldn’t even recognize it, any longer. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 10 2026 17:09 utc | 359

Also, in discussion, it is somewhat obvious who has and has not been in business.
 
Repairs due to attacks are “the cost of doing business” during an SMO as oil sales continue to boom.
 
What is Ukraine’s big economic activity these days?
 
Can begging for borrowed money from bankrupt countries be considered economy?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:09 utc | 360

A total fraud — at MIT? Well, I’ll be scuppered.
 
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 10 2026 16:41 utc | 353

 
Like Noam Chomsky…

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 17:10 utc | 361

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:09 utc | 367
 
Well, ukraine has some exports… manual labor and gold digging trophy wives.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 10 2026 17:15 utc | 362

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 10 2026 17:15 utc | 369
 
#####
 
You’re right.
 
I forgot involuntary organ donation and human sex trafficking.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:17 utc | 363

Posted by: persiflo | Jan 10 2026 17:06 utc | 36

My Guess: They are so overwhelmed & Incompetent, they will just let everyone die in there Homes….🤷‍♀️

Posted by: Nobody | Jan 10 2026 17:19 utc | 364

“Wake me up when NATO tanks are outside the Kremlin.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:05 utc | 362
 
Nice pivot. Meaningless, but I’ll let you fantasize.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 17:21 utc | 365

Well lets seen where the NatGas Price goes on Monday. Will tell us if the Storage was Hit!

Posted by: Nobody | Jan 10 2026 17:22 utc | 366

” A part of what Ukraine’s security service alleges is a Russian nuclear-capable hypersonic Oreshnik missile system is shown amid Russia’s attack on Ukraine, in an unidentified location the in Lviv region. (Security Service of Ukraine/Reuters)”pic. linkhttps://i.cbc.ca/ais/a1ffdf6a-1eed-48dd-98c2-54909617f06e,1768001452599/full/max/0/default.jpg?im=Crop%2Crect%3D%28152%2C6%2C1027%2C577%29%3BResize%3D1179
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-russia-missile-9.7039207
The sources are well noted before any serious consideration exercised by the poster here.Or as regular poster here might say, on account of being reuters ; “ProlliBollox”.

 
I stopped caring about what parts Ukraine showed as ‘Russian missiles’ after Klitschko showed what appeared to be a piece of water pipe as a Russian Kinzhal. They even showed pieces of Patriot PAC missiles as Russian missiles in the past.

Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 17:08 utc | 365

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 17:23 utc | 367

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:05 utc | 362
 

Wake me up when NATO tanks are outside the Kremlin.

 
Napoleon was even inside the Kremlin.
But at the end…

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 17:24 utc | 368

More likely, the West will continue to absorb more Ukrainians. With Poland continuing to fob them off on the rest of Europe. Probability is good at this burden will be disproportionately felt by the likes of Ireland which isn’t even a NATO member and that the Eastern countries that took such glee on egging this on will shirk these people off on the West. Afterall in their minds that’s what Western Europe is for, precious Poland is not to take in foreigners. The more a country has done to shamelessly push this war the fewer refugees they’ll take. 
 
The ability of the powers that be to continue to drag this war out has been predictably shameless. They are turning this into a new Syrian civil war. And why not? The strategy of tension and death by a thousand cuts allowed them to take out Assad after it seemed he had weathered their storm and after neocon plans for a US campaign to directly regime change him failed to materialise. Given the impossibility to enact regime change in Russia through every other avenue they’ve sought so far they may as well try to do to Russia what they’ve done to Syria. Sure the ethnic and religious tensions are nowhere near as serious in Russia as Syria but when the neocons are never called out on who they are and why they do what they do and face no consequences why not?  When every single spin of the wheel is free why not keep spinning until you hit the jackpot?

Posted by: Altai | Jan 10 2026 17:26 utc | 369

Posted by: Nobody | Jan 10 2026 17:22 utc | 373

Well lets seen where the NatGas Price goes on Monday. Will tell us if the Storage was Hit!

 
Not objective at all as indicator.
 
Trump just said he controls Venezuela, without any evidence, and the crude oil prices went down.
 
Just as a twit from Elon Musk can impact Bitcoin.
 
Narratives have as many impact as reality nowadays.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 17:28 utc | 370

Posted by: Altai | Jan 10 2026 17:26 utc | 376
 
The west is ruled by banker oligarchs. For them, personally, there might not be ‘costs’, but all the costs are burdened by unfortunate citizens of EU member states. I believe EU itself is baring the brunt and could start dissolution process along with Nato.
 
Maybe the western oligarchs will get off scott-free, but that’s their plan to implementing more repression on financial and personal freedoms in EU member states.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 17:32 utc | 371

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 17:21 utc | 372
 
####
 
It’s not a pivot. It’s that I have self esteem and refuse to coddle glass half empty bedwetters.
 
If you don’t understand that Ukraine has lost and without some miraculous Black Swan event is finito, talking about Russia is cope, IMO.
 
But, but, but, terrorism!!! 😂😂😂
 
Russia’s job in Ukraine, is almost done. And has the world’s most formidable military and military technologies. The economy is relatively stable and it’s diplomatic reach is 3x what it was before the SMO.
 
Russia, like China, is antifragile. Difficulty makes them better. Sanctions, terrorism, tariffs actually power them up like how a diamond is formed through pressure.
 
The way to destroy those countries would be through opulence and financial corruption, not gay ass terrorism or weak effeminate sanctions.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:34 utc | 372

@Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 17:08 utc | 365
I called Wikipedia a shit source a few comments up and I would say Reuters is complete bollocks.
I mentioned this example after the Maduro kidnapping.  
Bollocks news invented solely to sow discord and chaos in the country. 
 

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Jan 10 2026 17:35 utc | 373

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 17:23 utc | 374
90+% of people are stupid sponges, worldwide. It is said on the feed they are currently listening to, so it is their ‘truth’. The concept of ‘confirmation’ or ‘fact checking’ is not in their brain. “does it even make sense” is not ever considered. The laziness of the stupid. First thought planted is the one they will die with.
TPTB know this. They know that stupid people simply ‘believe’ and lock in that belief. To change that belief would mean accepting they were wrong, and anyone who has dealt with the truly terminally stupid knows they will never accept that. Ego trumps intellect. Again: First thought planted is the one they die with.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: whatever | Jan 10 2026 17:37 utc | 374

Combine that with the general rule that “you can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into”, and it looks pretty hopeless.

Posted by: bassplayer | Jan 10 2026 17:43 utc | 375

I forgot involuntary organ donation and human sex trafficking.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:17 utc | 370
 
surrogacy : 25% of the global market.

Posted by: MAKK | Jan 10 2026 17:47 utc | 376

Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 16:31 utc | 351
 
Propane is better than Butane for low temperature environments, as it’s a lighter molecule. 

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 10 2026 17:49 utc | 377

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 10 2026 17:49 utc | 384
 
Yes. Where I live, 15°C is “very cold”.
All West Africa use butane instead of propane.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 10 2026 17:53 utc | 378

Posted by: bassplayer | Jan 10 2026 17:43 utc | 382
 
#####
 
IMO, reality is never hopeless.
 
We just haven’t figured out a way yet.
 
Reality is the challenge. Conditions we didn’t create, cannot often manipulate, and do not control.
 
The struggle is acceptance. I am only this tall or my family is poor, that I will never be bulletproof, and so on.
 
If I cannot change it, I must accept it. People tend to go crazy and become dangerous when they cannot reach an emotional and psychological accommodation with reality. 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:57 utc | 379

Meanwhile, slow day sub 1.100 AFU casualties
 
some details from Marat 
 
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-january-9th

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 10 2026 18:04 utc | 380

Always a good source of information – Simplicius the Thinker’s Garden of Knowledge substack. May have been linked previous throughout this ling thread here. No harm to repost for those who have missed .https://

simplicius76.substack.com/p/swift-retaliation-putin-launches

N.B. In post by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 17:23 utc | 374
Only the first paragraph is a quote from myself. This post 374 is structured that the second paragraph appears as a quote from my post.

Posted by: Fíréan | Jan 10 2026 18:23 utc | 381

@ Nobody | Jan 10 2026 17:22 utc | 373
 
Personally I won’t be reading too much into how gas prices move next week, there’ll be a lot of noise and not much signal.
 
Consider that Ukraine has been actively purchasing at various times over the last 12 months we could conceivably see prices even drift down slightly; if a buyer has had a large part of its storage capacity taken offline then it won’t be buying.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 18:39 utc | 382

Thinking on it further, something more likely to affect gas prices would be a mysterious mid-Atlantic explosion of a LNG carrier heading for Europe, that would certainly cause some jitters…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 18:42 utc | 383

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 10 2026 17:23 utc | 374
>I stopped caring about what parts Ukraine showed as ‘Russian missiles’ after Klitschko showed what appeared to be a piece of water pipe as a Russian Kinzhal.
https://iy.kommersant.ru/Issues.photo/NEWS/2023/05/10/KMO_111307_50216_1_t222_201238.jpg
That was a real knee-slapper. Piece of water pipe in that photo is an actual weapon though.
https://weaponsystems.net/system/1343-BetAB-500ShP

Posted by: 俺様 | Jan 10 2026 18:45 utc | 384

guest from franconia said: “Dima says that the Oreshnik did not cause any damage. The Russians merely fired into the forest as a demonstration to warn the Europeans.”
Dima’s latest is that the Oreshnik struck an airfield where F-16s were parked. Chances are it hit the gas storage and the airfield. Versatility.

Posted by: begob | Jan 10 2026 19:07 utc | 385

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 17:34 utc | 379
 
Again, pivoted to “terrorism”, nothing to do with anything.   We’re u asked to “coddle” anyone?
 
My statements are pretty cut and dried.
1). COSTS are being incurred on both sides. Not just Ukraine getting the snot beat out them as pumped up here.
2). RF has had ample provocation and their own legal framework to move SMO to Declaration of  War and have not.
 
The inaction of the 2025 US (Not “NATO”) assaults on the RF amounts to near treason, not “strategy”.   As the triad & cyberattacks, presidential residences, are national security breaches, not “Ukraine assaults”.
 
2026 will hail more serious players coming out in RF to defend the nation. The Oreshnik “display” fooled no one in the RF.
 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 19:11 utc | 386

These ukraine outages show the vonrabilty of electric cars. Both east and west.
 
Or am i wrong.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 10 2026 20:09 utc | 387

@ Mark2 | Jan 10 2026 20:09 utc | 396
 
All cars are “vonrable”, each in its own way.  A good old-fashioned one is still useless without the infrastructure necessary to extract oil, refine it into benzine, and market it.  Mad Max fantasies about an atavistic world miraculously graced with an endless supply of “guzzolene” are, well, puerile.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:12 utc | 388

Malenkov @ 396
I recomend desael oil,  i can run my truck on vegtable oil, central heating oil,  tax free ag oil.  I hasten to say i dont but … i could.
 
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 10 2026 20:20 utc | 389

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:12 utc | 396
I don’t disagree with your assessment of most peoples delusions about how things would be after a societal collapse, but;
Wood-gasifier and an old vehicle. There is a guy near here with a 1984 f250 running wood as fuel. Entire system is in the box of the truck. He has been running it for the last decade.
Look up WW2 coal and wood gasifiers. Not much use for post 2000 crapified cars, but fine in old stuff.

Posted by: gter | Jan 10 2026 20:22 utc | 390

Anyone got info on ekectric cars in ukraine  at the momment ? 
We could all do with a laugh i feel.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 10 2026 20:25 utc | 391

I am reading your post with fascination while comfortably sitting in my apartment, drinking wine in a t-shirt and shorts. Those poor people in Kyiv! It must be really bad there! Oh, but hold on a second…I live in Kyiv and I’m here right now! Why is it that I don’t recognize any of the BS that you are lying about? Are there blackouts? Yes. But is it all the time? NO! And what makes things OK is that we get a schedule about when the electricity will be off, so you can plan, and it’s not so bad at all. No, it’s not -20 degrees Celsius in Kyiv and has not been that cold this winter. Right this moment it is -14. Yes, that’s quite cold but it’s nowhere near that cold in homes. Like I said, I’m still wearing shorts and a T-shirt, and I don’t like getting cold. So, it’s not that bad at all. But the author is even lying about a little thing like the temperature, never mind everything else! So, if you or Nazi Russia think that Ukrainians are going to surrender because we have a few blackouts, you are extremely ignorant and foolish. We’ll keep hitting the Russians where it hurts them most. It keeps us warm and happy just to see those Russian oil and gas facilities, weapons factories and depots, oil tankers and Black Sea Fleet ships BURN! And that’s why Ukraine will win. We’ve seen far worse things in our history than a little blackout here and there. And if you think that “General Winter” is a Russian, you’re wrong. He’s Ukrainian. We know how to deal with the winter. The Russians only know how to keep themselves warm with booze. Let’s see how they get through the winter without electricity and heat. We’re already bombing their electrical stations.  

Posted by: Andrew | Jan 10 2026 20:29 utc | 392

@ Andrew | Jan 10 2026 20:29 utc | 400
 
Are you supposed to be posting on the Sabbath???

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 20:34 utc | 393

Posted by: Andrew | Jan 10 2026 20:29 utc | 400
 
Cools story bro.
A nice effort and almost believable, until the last 10 sentences. They give away your ludicrous cope.

Posted by: dfos | Jan 10 2026 20:34 utc | 394

@ Posted by: gter | Jan 10 2026 20:22 utc | 399
 
Sounds viable.  But since I’m one of the first who’d be disappeared in the event of societal collapse, I don’t make survivalist plans.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:36 utc | 395

2). RF has had ample provocation and their own legal framework to move SMO to Declaration of War and have not.
 
Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 10 2026 19:11 utc | 393
 
######
 
Ok, I’ll play. Why not?
 
What reason?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 20:37 utc | 396

So, if you or Nazi Russia think that Ukrainians are going to surrender because we have a few blackouts, you are extremely ignorant and foolish. 
 
Posted by: Andrew | Jan 10 2026 20:29 utc | 401

 
Fine with me — and Russia — if you keep on not surrendering. 😀

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:38 utc | 397

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 20:37 utc | 406
 
Its name is Igitt Po(o)p(p)yhead.  😉

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:39 utc | 398

And perhaps we could even ask the esteemed @ Andrew | Jan 10 2026 20:29 utc, if he is such a brave and patriotic Ukrainian, upstanding citizen of that free and democratic nation…
 
Why hasn’t he volunteered for the front line yet ?
 
Asking for a friend in the TCC-SC…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 20:44 utc | 399

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 20:44 utc | 409
 
Dying is for the little people, the profanum vulgus, the deplorables, the useless eaters.  The unchosen, even.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:46 utc | 400

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