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January 25, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-023
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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It was mentioned in the old thread but Simplicius has a very good summary on the current energy situation in Ukraine, here: Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 13:12 utc | 1 We’ve now seen the template for how concerted drone strikes can empty a capital city. The production levels in Russia are now such that a similar campaign can be run against Poland and Germany. Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 14:01 utc | 2 Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 13:12 utc | 1 Posted by: Newbie | Jan 25 2026 14:05 utc | 3 Are the people really leaving Kyiev? Posted by: Simon | Jan 25 2026 14:18 utc | 4 Posted by: Simon | Jan 25 2026 14:18 utc | 4 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 14:22 utc | 5 Posted by: Simon | Jan 25 2026 14:18 utc | 4 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 25 2026 14:31 utc | 6
Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 14:31 utc | 7 Simon & Night Tripper, @ 4 & 5 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 25 2026 14:39 utc | 8 Night Tripper @2 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 25 2026 14:43 utc | 9 oldhippie | Jan 25 2026 14:39 utc | 8 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 25 2026 14:47 utc | 10 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 25 2026 14:43 utc | 9 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 14:52 utc | 11 Progress on the front seems to be restricted by heavy snow and heavy frosts, advances are in hundreds of metres not in km. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 25 2026 14:54 utc | 12 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 23rd January 2026: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Jan 25 2026 14:58 utc | 13 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 14:52 utc | 11 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 25 2026 15:04 utc | 14 Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 14:52 utc | 11 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 25 2026 15:05 utc | 15
Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 15:06 utc | 16 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 25 2026 15:05 utc | 15 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 15:14 utc | 17 Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 13:12 utc | 1 Posted by: Babel-17 | Jan 25 2026 15:20 utc | 18 Posted by: Simon | Jan 25 2026 14:18 utc | 4Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 14:22 utc | 5″so Klitschko, mayor of the city, who has encouraged people to leave and confirmed 600,000 have recently left0, is making it all up? For what?” Posted by: chudon | Jan 25 2026 15:23 utc | 19 Russia won’t strike NPP’s but recently they’ve stepped up attacks on transformer stations. If they collappse the transmission system it’ll force the Ukrainians to shut down reactors. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 25 2026 15:36 utc | 20 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 25 2026 15:36 utc | 20 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 15:45 utc | 21 People only migrate when there is absolutely no alternative. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 15:47 utc | 22 Posted by: chudon | Jan 25 2026 15:23 utc | 19 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 15:49 utc | 23 NORDSTREAM 2 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jan 25 2026 15:56 utc | 24 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 15:49 utc | 23
It is the same logic about the supposed flight of people from Kiev in my opinion. Posted by: chudon | Jan 25 2026 15:57 utc | 25 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jan 25 2026 15:56 utc | 24 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jan 25 2026 16:02 utc | 26 Posted by: chudon | Jan 25 2026 15:57 utc | 25 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 16:12 utc | 27 If Putin is begging for a peace treaty, why cant he get one? Posted by: UWDude | Jan 25 2026 16:15 utc | 28 Consider the possibility the whole drive up tot the Kiev zoo without sufficient manpower was done to maximize the element of surprise, and to hide the true intentions of the SMO. Posted by: UWDude | Jan 25 2026 16:18 utc | 29 President Trump has not issued specific public statements directly addressing Kyiv’s energy shortages in January 2026. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 25 2026 16:19 utc | 30 Zelenskyy blames Russia for deliberate winter attacks on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure to demoralize civilians. Trump faults Zelenskyy for blocking peace talks that could end the strikes. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 25 2026 16:23 utc | 31 European leaders’ posture on Ukraine’s deepening energy crisis and the faltering peace process has hardened into a familiar EU muddle: loud moralism paired with strategic paralysis. Brussels and major capitals thunder against Russia’s winter bombardment of Ukraine’s power grid, ship generators and emergency aid for optics, and ritualistically reaffirm loyalty to Zelenskyy — yet studiously avoid any public friction with Washington as U.S.-led talks grind on without results. The result is a politics of gesture rather than leverage. EU heavyweights like Macron and von der Leyen issue grand statements about European resolve while privately cautioning Kyiv on “realism,” all the while refusing to negotiate directly with Moscow (politically radioactive since Minsk) or to challenge American framing, even when it veers into blaming Ukraine itself. This produces a characteristically European contradiction: maximalist rhetoric about values and sovereignty combined with a deep reluctance to assume strategic responsibility. The Union talks like a geopolitical actor but behaves like a risk-averse committee, leaving Ukraine dependent on U.S. decisions and publicly prodding Europe for backbone it still seems unwilling to grow. Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 25 2026 16:33 utc | 32 Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 14:31 utc | 7 The Nuclear provide 3/4 of whats left of Production AFTER Russia started/did the Destruciton… And they are getting shut down too…. Posted by: Nobody | Jan 25 2026 16:33 utc | 33 @31 Posted by: paddy | Jan 25 2026 16:48 utc | 34 In response to unimperator@6, Posted by: Skiffer | Jan 25 2026 17:07 utc | 35 EU muddle: loud moralism paired with strategic paralysis Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 17:09 utc | 36
Posted by: 4q8 | Jan 25 2026 17:23 utc | 37 he ‘Ukrainian people’ have constantly thrown their lot in with regime and are continuing to do so. In the centre and the west and Kiev particularly. Which is where the aggression clearly stems from. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 25 2026 17:25 utc | 38 Lots of continued posturing about war motivations here and elsewhere. Amidst the endless bloviation by Trump are common refrains it is Bidens war, NATO, the EU, a facile argument if you can even call it that, as if these are not instruments of American policy. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 25 2026 17:58 utc | 39 Posted by: UWDude | Jan 25 2026 16:15 utc | 28 Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 25 2026 18:02 utc | 40 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 25 2026 17:25 utc | 38 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 25 2026 18:02 utc | 41 The general perspective that strategic bombing of the power grid will force Ukraine’s surrender I think is wrong, because strategic bombing simply does not work the way it’s alleged to. The best verdict on this is the famous (or should be) Strategic Bombing Survey studying the effects of strategic bombing in WWII. The fact that the north of Korea wasn’t defeated should confirm this as well. Given the physical problem that aircraft simply are not going to be able to deliver as much weight of explosives to target as a ground force that isn’t fighting gravity, the ability of the economy and population to recuperate is generally underestimated and the impact on the morale of the population is generally overestimated, as if the people were responsible for the war in the first place. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 25 2026 18:05 utc | 42
Unfortunately that means he cannot take counsel, for strategy requires articulation. While wisdom may spring from the mouths of babes on occasion, I prefer the advantage of additional perspectives from equals. Else youre in a hall of mirrors reflecting your glory, no? And motive and plan can be inferrred by enemies, this deduction being the primary means, before the modern era of surveillance, for anticipating the moves of opponents. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 25 2026 18:06 utc | 43 For all opinion holders in the EU Posted by: BlindSpot | Jan 25 2026 18:11 utc | 44 Viva Las Davos! Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 18:21 utc | 45 but how is that achieved when the actual Banderism/Nazism emanates from further west ? Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 25 2026 18:45 utc | 46 Unfortunately that means he cannot take counsel, for strategy requires articulation. While wisdom may spring from the mouths of babes on occasion, I prefer the advantage of additional perspectives from equals. Else youre in a hall of mirrors reflecting your glory, no? And motive and plan can be inferrred by enemies, this deduction being the primary means, before the modern era of surveillance, for anticipating the moves of opponents. Posted by: UWDude | Jan 25 2026 18:58 utc | 47 Trump could end Kiev’s masochism with one call to Hegseth, that is shut off all Intel to sheepdipped US controllers in Kiev. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 19:11 utc | 48 when negotiating behind closed doors they make concessions. Posted by: UWDude | Jan 25 2026 19:11 utc | 49 when negotiating behind closed doors they make concessions. Posted by: too scents | Jan 25 2026 19:20 utc | 50 The general perspective that strategic bombing of the power grid will force Ukraine’s surrender I think is wrong, because strategic bombing simply does not work the way it’s alleged to. The best verdict on this is the famous (or should be) Strategic Bombing Survey studying the effects of strategic bombing in WWII. Posted by: johnf | Jan 25 2026 19:44 utc | 51 According to a NATO sailor, saboteurs were dropped, by helicopter, on a ship in the Baltic during the annual Baltops exercises in 2022. From the ship they took a submersible and were gone all day, coming back in the evening to be picked up by helicopter. The sailors were not told anything about who they were or what they were doing. He only figured it out a couple of months later when the pipelines were blown up. Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 25 2026 19:49 utc | 52 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 19:11 utc | 48 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 19:58 utc | 53 HBN @ 46 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 25 2026 20:07 utc | 54 Posted by: johnf | Jan 25 2026 19:44 utc | 51 And I suppose that not bombing all the dams was the only reason the US was stalemated in the Korean war? And knocking out the power for Baghdad was how the US won the war in Iraq? I agree that military men commonly believe that attacking the enemy population is the road to victory. It certainly is a road to lower casualties than assaulting the enemy’s armed forces. It will be a great day for the generals when strategic bombing works the way Billy Mitchell and Giulio Douhet said it would. Perhaps the excerpts from the survey I read so many decades ago were misleading, but the notion that the strategic bombing is both precise and devastating with a regularity that is beyond repair and the effects on the population will be decisive were not well supported, regardless of what they speculated about if the bombing had followed the correct strategy. I will confess that I can believe the chair force can think over well of itself, and its powers. So perhaps I’m wrong and Ukraine will surrender shortly. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 25 2026 20:13 utc | 55
Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 20:21 utc | 56 Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 25 2026 14:31 utc | 7 Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 25 2026 20:26 utc | 57 Ukraine has intensified mobilization efforts. Also evident on videos released with kidnapper TCC being more aggressive than before.
https://x.com/NovichokRossiya/status/2015508106013208715 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 25 2026 20:32 utc | 58 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 19:58 utc | 53 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 20:34 utc | 59 Scott Ritter: Trump HUMILIATED, Putin’s Oreshnik Missile Destroys CIA Coup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWaXb2OJj9M Posted by: unimperator | Jan 25 2026 20:35 utc | 60 Zelensky today in his ramblings was talking about Oreshnik. They seem to be scared of it, it’s demonstrated to be very effective against hitting and destroying any strategic target and sub-targets within any strategic target area. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 25 2026 20:45 utc | 61 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 20:34 utc | 59 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 20:45 utc | 62 Western Military Units in Ukraine to Be Seen as Intervention – Russian Foreign Ministry https://sputnikglobe.com/20260125/western-military-units-in-ukraine-to-be-seen-as-intervention—russian-foreign-ministry-1123522943.html Posted by: Laurence | Jan 25 2026 20:51 utc | 63 Ritter has and interesting take he articulated in a discussion with Danny Haiphong. Posted by: frithguild | Jan 25 2026 21:15 utc | 64 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 20:45 utc | 62 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 21:33 utc | 65 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 21:33 utc | 65 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 25 2026 21:49 utc | 66 Not only is the ‘peace president’ a moron, but he is also an oxymoron, even in his own country. Get rid of him America Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 25 2026 21:49 utc | 67 @16 Yet another Anon. Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jan 25 2026 21:56 utc | 68 Alexander Mercouris: ‘No Concessions’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 25 2026 22:05 utc | 69
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 25 2026 22:17 utc | 70 @ frithguild | Jan 25 2026 21:15 utc | 64 Posted by: malenkov | Jan 25 2026 22:19 utc | 71 Our dear Johnny on the Spot, Marat thinks Azerbaijan is just begging to be bombed. Apparently his wife is an exact copy of Zelensky and an Isreali asset. Posted by: Suresh | Jan 25 2026 22:22 utc | 72 Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 25 2026 22:05 utc | 70 What would you expect. The US is never going to be of use in any settlement concerning Ukraine and Russia. It’s only ever about Trump taking all the credit while Russia nows fully about US duplicity. They act politely and follow diplomatic protocols but know fully that the US is a liar that only seeks the phony cedit for whatever it does. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 25 2026 22:25 utc | 73 @ fruitloop 64. Posted by: Suresh | Jan 25 2026 22:27 utc | 74 Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jan 25 2026 21:56 utc | 69 They are not Greens and have not been for many years. They are imposters pretending they are Greens and there to destroy what Greens ever stood for. The real Greens were slaughtered in a made to look double suicide. That was the end. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 25 2026 22:46 utc | 76 Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 25 2026 19:49 utc | 52 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jan 25 2026 22:46 utc | 77 Meh, and a thousand timed meh. Trump is president of the USA, and therefore he is responsible even if he knew nothing about it. With power comes responsibility, after all. Posted by: frithguild | Jan 25 2026 22:57 utc | 78 @ fruitloop 64. *** Posted by: frithguild | Jan 25 2026 23:00 utc | 79 Posted by: Suresh | Jan 25 2026 22:22 utc | 73 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 25 2026 23:02 utc | 80 some call it lawmakers but it can be JFK type stuff as well. Posted by: frithguild | Jan 25 2026 23:10 utc | 81 The excuses and rationalizations for Trump are truly ridiculous now. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 23:13 utc | 82 Sounds like the usual confusion trying to lead events as a participant of value rather than the dust on the table he is. Posted by: Jo | Jan 25 2026 23:21 utc | 83 ‼️🇺🇦🇷🇸Ukraine demands the inclusion in the EU as a condition for signing a peace agreement from January 1, 2027, — Vučić▪️Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Slovakia are categorically against this, — added the President of Serbia.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Jan 25 2026 23:23 utc | 84 Some .mil porn: Posted by: jared | Jan 25 2026 23:32 utc | 85 I wonder, if Europe were going to participate in negotiations, who would they send? Would they have any legitemacy? Posted by: jared | Jan 25 2026 23:36 utc | 86
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 25 2026 23:39 utc | 87 Has Trumps traveling circus run out of steam? Posted by: jared | Jan 25 2026 23:40 utc | 88 🇺🇦Kiev without electricity and heat: a power shortage is raging in the capital of Ukraine– As of yesterday evening, about 800,000 subscribers in Kiev were left without electricity. The Ukrainian Energy Ministry stated that “the power shortage still persists”.- The Gauleiter of Kiev reported that as of today, 1,676 houses remain without heating.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Jan 25 2026 23:41 utc | 89 The excuses and rationalizations for Trump are truly ridiculous now. *** Posted by: frithguild | Jan 25 2026 23:52 utc | 90 and Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jan 25 2026 15:56 utc | 24 Posted by: steve | Jan 26 2026 0:06 utc | 91 The greatest progress was recorded in the military subgroup. The disengagement of forces, monitoring of the ceasefire, and the creation of a control center were discussed. As a result, the parties agreed on a monitoring format with the participation of mainly Ukraine, the USA, and Russia. Within a week, the delegations will exchange definitions of key terms and agreed to continue negotiations in the same format approximately in a week.Doubt it@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Jan 26 2026 0:10 utc | 92 The Trump circus is just that a circus match as a real circus its purpose is to distract and entertain a general audience. The negotiation with Russia continues behind the scenes, the CIA attack on Putin/family was ill conceived , that did trip some sort of line in the sand and we have seen Russia perform an Oreshnik strike on something undefined as well as upping the electric/infrastructure war. Posted by: silverfoxes | Jan 26 2026 0:13 utc | 93 Posted by: frithguild | Jan 25 2026 23:52 utc | 95 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 26 2026 0:14 utc | 94 Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jan 25 2026 18:02 utc | 40 Posted by: snake | Jan 26 2026 0:37 utc | 95 *** I was speaking in general. Usually, I would cite your post if I were referring to you. There are at least a half dozen who shamelessly Trumpsplain. *** Posted by: frithguild | Jan 26 2026 0:38 utc | 96
If THAT was the goal, they sure acted stupid about reaching it. I don’t know any group of oligarhs or inner forces capable of leading any opposition mass movement in Russia or staging a coup. Posted by: Rutte | Jan 26 2026 0:42 utc | 97 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 25 2026 23:13 utc | 84 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 26 2026 1:00 utc | 98 Rutte, Posted by: silverfoxes | Jan 26 2026 1:00 utc | 99 Posted by: frithguild | Jan 26 2026 0:38 utc | 101 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 26 2026 1:02 utc | 100 |
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