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January 8, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-008
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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NYT 11 minutes ago: Russia Appears to Use Nuclear Capable Missles in Ukraine Posted by: frithguild | Jan 9 2026 3:18 utc | 101 We [Col. Cassad] explain. At a speed above Mach 5-6, the energy reserve in the piece of metal is greater than the energy reserve in the explosive that can be put into this warhead (for such a speed, this is no more than 25-30% of the total mass to withstand overloads). Therefore, it makes no sense to use explosives, plus the creation of a warhead is simplified. The warhead material heats up so much during sharp braking that it partially turns into plasma, from this stored energy. And accordingly, without any explosives, the effect of an explosion is obtained, a fragmentation field of very high-speed drops of material, which act as micro-cumulative jets directed in the direction of flight. And this gives a huge penetrating ability. Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 3:30 utc | 103 I will try to explain why I think that eventually this conflict becoming a frozen conflict is the most likely outcome. First you have to consider what either side would consider a victory, and what conditions that both countries are fighting under. Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 3:31 utc | 104 Sanctions and Counter-Sanctions Posted by: Nobody Special | Jan 9 2026 3:31 utc | 105
When the basis of your arguement is this flawed, there is no point in trying to correct you. Great regurgitation of the Propaganda though, 8/10. Posted by: eps | Jan 9 2026 3:46 utc | 106 AI is changing the answers – I posted this AI answer, left the page open and now have the new answer below: AI Overview: Yes, the Russian Oreshnik hypersonic missile (part of the Sarmat system) is widely believed to be nuclear-capable, with its accuracy suggesting it’s designed to carry nuclear warheads, though some suggest its precision could also suit conventional submunitions, but its primary intent seems strategic and potentially nuclear.
Posted by: frithguild | Jan 9 2026 3:55 utc | 107 Apparently the pink glow in Kiev has something to do with methane dissociating to carbon and hydrogen, and heat turning into plasma. Hydrogen glows red/pink and carbon green. Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 3:55 utc | 108 Colonelcassad Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 9 2026 4:09 utc | 109 From Al Manar
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 9 2026 4:09 utc | 110 Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 3:31 utc | 107 If true that Oreshnik’s (nuclear capable) were utilized, did the Russians “notify” the US?If not, I would think that would be the most “important “message in itself. Posted by: TheTurk | Jan 9 2026 4:22 utc | 112 Tit for Tat… Posted by: TheTurk | Jan 9 2026 4:40 utc | 113 Lots of talk about energy beams, steering, bending, massive power… When speculating it is important to keep both feet on the ground (we live in a real world) and understand a little about how and why things work. Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 5:05 utc | 114 Pure speculation from me. Posted by: Suresh | Jan 9 2026 5:08 utc | 115 @Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 3:31 utc | 107 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jan 9 2026 5:10 utc | 116 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 8 2026 15:25 utc | 7
Posted by: Laurence | Jan 9 2026 5:31 utc | 117 snake@1: Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 9 2026 5:36 utc | 118 (topwar.ru)Russia conducted the second combat test of a ballistic missile missiles The Oreshnik medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) was launched. This time, the military assessed the missile’s ability to strike specific targets, striking an underground gas storage facility in Western Ukraine.
According to Ukrainian sources, Russia used an Oreshek missile to strike the Bilche-Volytsko-Uherske underground gas storage facility in the Lviv region—the largest gas storage facility in Europe. This facility was presumably chosen for a reason, as it is considered one of the most difficult targets to reach, and Russian military forces used it to test the missile’s capabilities.
Posted by: TheTurk | Jan 9 2026 5:50 utc | 119 If current reports are correct then it was an Oreshnik. Apparently Russia advised the US that an attack with a nuclear capable missile (not armed) would be coming, in compliance with treaty “obligations.” watcher | Jan 9 2026 6:03 utc | 130
No doubt. Posted by: Laurence | Jan 9 2026 6:07 utc | 121 Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 3:31 utc | 107 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 9 2026 6:07 utc | 122 JRL, if you haven’t seen it, the newest Simplicius has some video of Oreshnik use. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 9 2026 6:15 utc | 123 Larry Johnson and Simplicius both confirm Oreshniks were used again in Ukraine, perhaps for multiple reasons, some not necessarily to do with Ukraine. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 9 2026 6:18 utc | 124 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 9 2026 6:15 utc | 133 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 9 2026 6:22 utc | 125 From the nato-nazi north the crimes of Queen Chrystia are finally being exposed to a wider public: But of course Ottawa Citizen Defence Reporter David Pugliese isn’t a ‘Russian asset’ he’s a Canadian one. He is also the survivor of a vicious and powerful Freeland attack for publishing stories exposing her family’s nazi past after John Helmer first broke the full story internationally in his blog. Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 9 2026 6:25 utc | 126 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 9 2026 6:22 utc | 137 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 9 2026 6:25 utc | 127 Posted by: watcher | Jan 9 2026 6:03 utc | 132 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 9 2026 6:31 utc | 128 Oreshnik on Lvov! Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jan 9 2026 7:17 utc | 129 @Love Donbass 132 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jan 9 2026 7:19 utc | 130 “I will make a prediction, which is that Russia will spend most of 2026 taking the Donbas, and some modest gains on other parts of the front, but no collapse of the UAF.” Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 9 2026 7:23 utc | 131 Posted by: Suresh | Jan 8 2026 23:00 utc | 41 Posted by: 667 | Jan 9 2026 7:43 utc | 132 Reality is the plasma cone and whatever state the “cone” turns into meant warheads would not survive terminal velocity. Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 7:45 utc | 133 Official statement: Posted by: sh0tek | Jan 9 2026 7:46 utc | 134 Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 3:31 utc | 108 Posted by: Tel | Jan 9 2026 7:53 utc | 135 At some point those taxpayers will give up on Ukraine, Posted by: too scents | Jan 9 2026 7:59 utc | 136 Care to ‘speculate’ on that? Posted by: too scents | Jan 9 2026 8:00 utc | 137 It’s better to do “something” than to do nothing and maybe it’s still the right thing. The Oreshnik in Lviv was an unveiled warning to the EUnichs, one of the hands in the Ukrainian glove. But it will not sink in. It might sink in with the Ukrainian regime but they are dispensable meat who will keep following orders to the last Ukrainian. Apart from energy and some defense infrastructure hit in Kiev, it currently seems no “message” was sent to the UK or US. Posted by: xor | Jan 9 2026 8:02 utc | 138 Please don’t encourage ignorant speculation. There is no point to it, and there is too much of it already. Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 8:19 utc | 139 At some point those taxpayers will give up on Ukraine, Posted by: Tel Posted by: Apollyon | Jan 9 2026 8:23 utc | 140 The slowdown in the Russian economic growth is controlled, aimed at lowering inflation and enabling a lower interest rate, both of which are happening right now. There is no apparent structural failure in the Russian economy which could threaten their military campaign in the short term.
The opposite has been true in many fronts in 2025. In the Hulyaipole front the Russians have made rapid advancements this past year; they were also able to successfully flank Pokrovsk from the east/north-east; they were able to advance to the outskirts of Lyman from two directions and lately also take Siversk.
Russia has surpassed Ukraine in terms of drones, that much is extremely clear. In terms of long range drones, we see that Russia today conducts almost daily drone strikes with hundreds of drones against Ukraine, while Ukraine can only do the same sporadically. Posted by: Leoraig | Jan 9 2026 8:36 utc | 141
Posted by: Tel | Jan 9 2026 8:40 utc | 142
Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 9 2026 9:19 utc | 143 97.6% of all incoming Russian missiles have been destroyed. It is so simple to accomplished because the Russian military uses only washing machine microchips chips. After this salvo, Russia will be completely out of missiles. Sources say … Posted by: Martina | Jan 9 2026 9:30 utc | 144 Well if the Natzios incited the second outing for oreshnik so they could gather the telemetrjcs by attacking vvp directly – their cunning ‘baldrickian’ plan worked! Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 9 2026 9:30 utc | 145 @107 Posted by: AleaJactaEst | Jan 9 2026 9:39 utc | 146 Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 7:45 utc | 140 But they are slowed down with Parachutes and not slammed into the Ground at Max Speed…🤦🏾♀️ Posted by: Nobody | Jan 9 2026 9:42 utc | 147 Posted by: Nobody | Jan 9 2026 9:42 utc | 157 I take the 🤦🏾♀️ back, you answered another one..Well, better be silent now till i have my 2 Coffees…. Posted by: Nobody | Jan 9 2026 9:44 utc | 148 Posted by: Simon | Jan 9 2026 9:38 utc | 155 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 9 2026 10:26 utc | 149 “Meanwhile starlink has been nullified – in Iran as in Ukropia – Elon has made the users stand out and glow – and battlefield innovation swats them like flies.” The new war is changing much. Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 9 2026 10:31 utc | 150 It wasn’t just the Oreshniks…
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/169848
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/169849 Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 9 2026 10:52 utc | 151 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 9 2026 10:31 utc | 155 Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 9 2026 11:03 utc | 152
Posted by: tuf | Jan 9 2026 11:05 utc | 153 But they are slowed down with Parachutes and not slammed into the Ground at Max Speed… Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 11:06 utc | 154 Zakharova now ‘thanking’ the US for releasing 2 Russian servicemen. Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 9 2026 11:37 utc | 155 There’s a well known physical mechanism going by the name “gravity” which does the job … although I’m half way expecting some wag to point out the impracticality of keeping a neutron star in your trousers pocket. Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 11:42 utc | 156 Posted by: frithguild | Jan 9 2026 3:55 utc | 110 Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 9 2026 11:44 utc | 157 Klitschko is advising everyone to leave Kiev. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2026 11:48 utc | 158 <blockquote> Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2026 11:52 utc | 159 There are reports that train lines west of Kiev have been left without electricity. Trains have been left stranded on the lines. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2026 12:17 utc | 160 Re: Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 3:31 utc | 108
Posted by: Julian | Jan 9 2026 12:24 utc | 161 Zakharova now ‘thanking’ the US for releasing 2 Russian servicemen.What gratitude should be shown to a country that seized Russian citizens in an act of piracy on the high seas ? Posted by: Night Tripper | Jan 9 2026 11:37 utc | 160 Posted by: rk | Jan 9 2026 12:33 utc | 162 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2026 11:48 utc | 163 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jan 9 2026 12:37 utc | 163 Posted by: rk | Jan 9 2026 12:33 utc | 167 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2026 12:41 utc | 164 I can’t copy & paste the links for some reason but there is a fascinating article on imperialism in Ukraine, written 1920 but only recently translated into English, on wsws.org as of this morning… Posted by: Pete | Jan 9 2026 12:59 utc | 165 Some sage and wise “prognostications” from one or two NAFOistas, who conveniently overlook Ukraine’s looming sovereign debt servicing crisis. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 9 2026 13:01 utc | 166 Ukraine’s largest steelmaker Zaporizhstal halted production after losing gas and energy supply – in 2025 it made 3.2 million tons of steel. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2026 13:03 utc | 167 Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 11:06 utc | 159 I cant. I am a Chef. I can tell you Stuff about Fermentation, Cooking Time/Points, Brines, Temp Regulation, Hygiene/Sanitation, Logistics for Meals/Restaurants etc….🙋♀️ Posted by: Nobody | Jan 9 2026 13:04 utc | 168 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update 9th January 2026: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Jan 9 2026 13:10 utc | 169 Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 3:30 utc | 106 Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 9 2026 13:19 utc | 170 psychohistorian | Jan 9 2026 4:09 utc | 113 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 9 2026 13:36 utc | 171 Re: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 9 2026 13:01 utc | 171
Posted by: Julian | Jan 9 2026 13:54 utc | 172 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 9 2026 13:36 utc | 176 There where a lot of Protests…But they got the Way of “Occupy Wall Street”…🤔 Posted by: Nobody | Jan 9 2026 14:25 utc | 173 General Factotum @ 106 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 9 2026 14:28 utc | 174 Brief video clip of the fireball over the gas storage facility: https://news-pravda.com/world/2026/01/09/1986484.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 9 2026 14:33 utc | 175
https://x.com/NewRulesGeo/status/2009610781294579826 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 9 2026 14:34 utc | 176 Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 9 2026 11:44 utc | 162 Posted by: frithguild | Jan 9 2026 14:35 utc | 177
https://news-pravda.com/world/2026/01/09/1988042.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 9 2026 14:39 utc | 178 The Oreshnik “nuclear capable” narrative seems to have been spiked. It is nowhere in MSM news headlines. Rather this narrative is buried in the body of the reports. Interesting … Posted by: frithguild | Jan 9 2026 14:42 utc | 179 Posted by: Julian | Jan 9 2026 13:54 utc | 177 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 9 2026 14:45 utc | 180 Posted by: frithguild | Jan 9 2026 14:42 utc | 185 Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 9 2026 14:47 utc | 181 @ Ghost of Zanon | Jan 9 2026 14:45 utc | 186 Posted by: malenkov | Jan 9 2026 14:50 utc | 182 Russia Goes Oreshnik Again – by Larry C Johnson Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 9 2026 15:18 utc | 183 Putin retaliates by attacking something that should have been attacked years ago, as usual. Hardly an act of deterrence. He should have saved that Oreshnik because his flaccid approach to western aggression almost assures he’s gonna need it and a lot more. Posted by: Maverick | Jan 9 2026 15:28 utc | 184 Re: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jan 9 2026 14:45 utc | 186
Sure, at some point that will become a problem, but it won’t be this decade – maybe in the 2030s. Posted by: Julian | Jan 9 2026 15:46 utc | 185 Posted by: Julian | Jan 9 2026 15:49 utc | 186 Interesting stuff. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 9 2026 15:53 utc | 187 Posted by: Pete | Jan 9 2026 12:59 utc | 170 Posted by: English Outsider | Jan 9 2026 16:05 utc | 188 Posted by: English Outsider | Jan 9 2026 16:05 utc | 196 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 9 2026 16:14 utc | 189
Posted by: Julian | Jan 9 2026 15:46 utc | 193 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 9 2026 16:23 utc | 190 @ MAKK | Jan 9 2026 16:32 utc | 199 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 9 2026 16:42 utc | 191 The slowdown in the Russian economy is absolutely not ‘controlled’, that is the neccesary official explanation for why the economy is flatlining despite the government literally going into debt doing what is in effect fiscal stimulus. Consider just these production declines (according to Rosstat) : Sector / Product Tractor Production Bulldozer Production Trucks (Heavy Vehicles) Elevator Production Automobile Production Grain Rail Loading Construction Materials (Rail Loading) Ferrous Metals (Rail Loading) Woodworking Industry Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 17:47 utc | 193 “Care to ‘speculate’ on that?” — Posted by: General Factotum | Jan 9 2026 7:45 utc | 137 Posted by: David G Horsman | Jan 9 2026 17:52 utc | 194 @ Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 17:47 utc | 202 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 9 2026 17:52 utc | 195 lemozi // 201 Posted by: Nobody Special | Jan 9 2026 18:02 utc | 196 All of these ‘rapid advancements’ that you mention still amount to taking only 0.8% of Ukraine in 2025. That’s not very much at all, and basically allows Ukraine plenty of time to fortify the rear to further make Russian advances slow. It took Russia over a year to approach and take Pokrovsk, and even then was there a breakthrough? No, they have been fighting on the northern part of the city for the last three months now. You also didn’t mention Kupyansk where Ukraine rolled up a year of Russian advancements in a handful of weeks. Yet you call 0.8% of Ukraine in a year “large scale advancements” its kind of ridiculous. I am almost tempted to use the word cope. Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 18:03 utc | 197 Well attacking the gas storage now when the worst of winter is about to arrive is more strategic than say attacking earlier when alternative arrangements might have been possible. Especially just after the coalition of the willing meeting and final statement….. Posted by: Jo | Jan 9 2026 18:09 utc | 198 In terms of long range drone attacks, Ukrainian interceptions reached their low point in the summer and have actually increased again as the deployment of drone interceptors is being scaled up and are back up to 80%+ in the most recent attacks (average, various attacks will have variation). There is also the increased deployment of the Ukrainian airforce which will progess. At the same time we have basically not seen an increase in the numbers of drones or missiles used in attacks, which basically high their peak/plateau since the summer as well. And considering the throttle to the Russian economy it will probably not scale much more. I also didn’t mention the USV situation where Ukraine continues to punish the Russian black sea fleet and shipping. Posted by: Remote Page | Jan 9 2026 18:11 utc | 199 Maybe many Ukrainians understand Europe/America betrayed them? Posted by: Fredrick | Jan 9 2026 18:20 utc | 200 |
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