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January 19, 2026
Trump Will Take Greenland … And Then Go For More

U.S. President Donald Trump wrote a letter the Prime Minister of Norway, Jonas Gahr Støre. Staff at the National Security Council delivered copies of the letter to European ambassadors in Washington DC.

A copy was provided to a Newshour journalist:

Dear Ambassador:

President Trump has asked that the following message, shared with Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre, be forwarded to your [named head of government/state]

“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”

Trump will continue to demand Greenland until something is done by Europe to decisively stop him.

When Trump tried to kill trade with China by imposing sky-high tariffs the Chinese responded by stopping export of rare earth minerals and rare earth products. The U.S. needs those and has no other sources. Trump stepped back from the tariffs and made peace with President Xi.

Europe need to make a likewise decisive move. It has allowed Trump to impose tariffs on European goods without imposing counter measures. That was a huge mistake as it Trump immediately interpreted it as weakness that could be further exploited.

Europe has a trade surplus from selling goods to the United States. But Europe has a deficit from buying services from the U.S.  Such services are software, internet applications, TV shows and movies, consulting and some fields of banking businesses.

Europe should immediately introduce tariffs on all services the U.S. provides to Europe. These should be double the tariffs Trump has put on European goods. If Trump responds with higher tariffs on goods, respond with increasing that rate fro services. Let Microsoft, Google and Hollywood scream about it. All their products can be replaced with European ones without too much hassle.

There are other measures European countries could take. There are several ten-thousands U.S. soldiers and associated civilians in Europe. As the U.S. is threatening Greenland it is justified to limit their current free movement. Just to make sure that they, under Trump’s command, don’t start to do something equally stupid. In the end these people are hostages. Use them as such.

Europe should also immediately assemble a multinational independent regiment under Danish command and deploy it to Greenland. It shall protect the land from the ‘Russian’ and ‘Chinese’ intrusions the U.S. professes to fear.

A news item yesterday said that the Pentagon claims it has put 1,500 active duty Army paratroopers on alert for a potential deployment to Minnesota:

The soldiers are from the 11th Airborne Division, based at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska, one of the Army’s premier infantry formations and a frontline force in the U.S. military presence in the Pacific, positioned to help deter China. The division is also the military’s leading formation for Arctic warfare.

If you believe that the prime U.S. units trained and designated to fight in Arctic climate were put on alarm to put down non-existing riots in Minnesota contact me about buying this huge bridge I have on offer. These troops are without doubt preparing to take over Greenland.

Europe should counter them by acting faster.

Unfortunately the current crop of European leaders is the worse the continent had for decades. That’s why I doubt that they will be able to plan and execute any significant measure.

In consequence Trump will take Greenland … and then go for more.

Comments

Breaking in NYT: President Trump said one reason behind his push to acquire Greenland is that he didn’t win the Nobel Peace Prize, according to a message he sent to Norway’s prime minister. Jonas Gahr Store, Norway’s leader, received the text message on Sunday, three European officials familiar with the matter said on Monday.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 15:02 utc | 1

‘Dear Ambassador,
 
Since you refuse to just let me win, I am taking my ball and going home. 
Sincerely, 
Toddler J. Trump’

Posted by: Caveman | Jan 19 2026 15:04 utc | 2

Imagine a universe where this makes sense. 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 15:06 utc | 3

@ Princess B: link?

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 19 2026 15:10 utc | 4

Sure, go on and tax aws, google cloud, azure, anthropic and whannot then sit and watch as EU customers immediately switch to domestic alternatives… like for example… ehmm…. mhm…. 

Posted by: andżej | Jan 19 2026 15:11 utc | 5

Except europe to propose a trade. Denmark surrenders Greenland in exchange for American re-engagement in The War On Russia. 

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 19 2026 15:11 utc | 6

Link to what? The universe? Doesn’t exist. The breaking news is from the New York Times (NYT) , in fact its newsletter alert.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 15:12 utc | 7

**** But Europe has a deficit from buying services from the U.S. Such services are software, internet applications, TV shows and movies, consulting and some fields of banking businesses. ****
 
The sort of Yankshit that’s already almost completgely destroyed Europe and Britain.
 
But the addicts continue to buy!
 
China finally managed stop the Western-enforced influx of opium….
But there seems little prospect of Europe or Britain — misruled by zio-yank traitor puppet dictators — likewise halting the so-called “services”  flow of enslaving toxins.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 19 2026 15:14 utc | 8

Imagine a universe where this makes sense. 
Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 15:06 utc | 3
 
A friend keeps saying, “I can’t figure out what Trump is doing.”
I keep reminding him, “Rational thinking about the irrational actions of a crazy person is pointless. Rational thinking and reasoned motives aren’t applied by the Batshit Insane.”
 
A big problem with those who think (and can abstract), is thinking that others do the same to make decisions.
Trump is clearly nuts. If what he says or does ever starts to make sense, be concerned.
 
 

Posted by: ftp | Jan 19 2026 15:16 utc | 9

Vae victis!
 

Trump will continue to demand Greenland until something is done by Europe to decisively stop him.

 
The only thing Europe can do to save Greenland is go to Moscow and tell Putin that they agree to all of Russia’s terms.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 19 2026 15:17 utc | 10

The biggest joke about the Nobel Peace Price is that the Nobel committee claimed that it is inappropriate to try to transfer the prize to another person, this when Machado wanted to give it to Trump.
 

https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/press/press-releases/the-nobel-prize-and-the-laureate-are-inseparable

 
Inviting a foreign country to wage war on your own country in the name of peace was no concern to the Nobel shit committee, but trying to transfer the prize to someone else was.

Posted by: Roland | Jan 19 2026 15:17 utc | 11

Notice what people are not talking about?  Not talking about the Ukraine.  Not talking about Iran.  Not talking about Venezuela.
 
President Trump is the absolute master of mis-direction.  And the TDS crowd keep falling for it.

Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Jan 19 2026 15:18 utc | 12

Notice what people are not talking about?  Not talking about the Ukraine.  Not talking about Iran.  Not talking about Venezuela

 
and not talking about Epstein.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 19 2026 15:20 utc | 13

Trump had many options to acquire Greenland.  Some are:
Quiet diplomacy. 
Wooing the population to vote to join the US.
Expanding the existing bases there and quietly moving enough troops there and announcing fait accompli.
Actually the US has defacto military control of Greenland NOW.  Pushing for legal control through megaphone diplomacy with threats and intimidation suggests an additional agenda:  Breaking up or exiting NATO and demonstrating that most EU countries are in fact US colonies. 
 
 

Posted by: Snowleopard | Jan 19 2026 15:21 utc | 14

and not talking about Epstein.
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 19 2026 15:20 utc | 13
 
We have a winner!

Posted by: ftp | Jan 19 2026 15:22 utc | 15

Maybe if the Europeans would allow their Ukraine proxy war to end Trump would not need Greenland so badly?
Maybe it is time to end NATO so to spend that money at home and an altercation over Greenland is a great way to get it done?

Posted by: Dc | Jan 19 2026 15:25 utc | 16

Why this Norway digression, when we are debating Denmark here?

Mr.Trump should confront Jonas yes, but Jonas Vingegaard, and see who can more expeditiously gain control of the Land on their legs (and wheels).

Whithout a little help from certain Slovenian, Belgian or Dutch (NON)friends, I forecast a black page for the Empire…

Posted by: MoaMetal | Jan 19 2026 15:26 utc | 17

““Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace,” D.J Trump.  
 
Guess the idea of going to hell no longer bothers the dude.

Posted by: teri | Jan 19 2026 15:26 utc | 18

This is outragious! Time to ask for Russia’s help?

Posted by: sirdavide | Jan 19 2026 15:27 utc | 19

Notice what people are not talking about? Not talking about the Ukraine. Not talking about Iran. Not talking about Venezuela.

Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Jan 19 2026 15:18 utc | 12

and not talking about Epstein.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 19 2026 15:20 utc | 13
 
May I add precious metal prices to the accumulating list?
 
And Gaza is another prospective entry…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 19 2026 15:28 utc | 20

Was wondering how much semiconductor industry in the us could be created without dutch extreme/ultra UV lithography
 
Asking for a friend…

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 19 2026 15:29 utc | 21

Has anyone told Trump that the country of Norway is not the determining body that decides the Nobel Prize recipients?  Just one of those Fun Facts to Know and Share.

Posted by: teri | Jan 19 2026 15:31 utc | 22

Maybe Russia could take back Alaska?!

Posted by: sirdavide | Jan 19 2026 15:31 utc | 23

I would have liked to see Jonas Gahr Store’s face when he read that.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 15:31 utc | 24

Amazing. 
Who can now seriously doubt that Trump has developped dementia symptoms ? Just as Biden’s ones.

Posted by: America is defeated | Jan 19 2026 15:32 utc | 25

**** These troops are without doubt preparing to take over Greenland.
Europe should counter them by acting faster. ****
 
True.
But the so-called “leaders” of Europe/UK will respond by singing the Star Spangled Arsehole.
 
And no doubt concoct some drivelling ‘justification’ for it all, just as they will with Trump’s grand plan for himself to be appointed global rip-off dictator.
It has been divinely* approved, with the population of Gaza have already the human sacrifices.
 
 
* …. “divinely” as per by a mythical biblical deity that actually isn’t Christian, Moslem or even Jewish, but is followed by the Israelis and other Zionists.
 
 
Further instructions will be distributed at Davos.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 19 2026 15:33 utc | 26

Gavin Longmuir @12 has already won the thread.
EXACTLY.
Trump will let the neocons screw around in VZ and perhaps Iran a bit.   But this “fight” with Europe/NATO will allow him to withdraw Ukraine support in a big way.  Trust me, he really does not have that freedom currently.
And Trump is EXACTLY correct about taking Greenland.  This is a play he was building up to in his first administration.  He has never stopped talking about it.  It is the PERFECT way to extricate the US largely from the Ukraine debacle and take a MASSIVE territory for the USA.
 
Legacy move really.   China and Russia must be laughing their ass off.   Any fool can see what Trump is doing.  EU leadership are stupider than fools though.  

Posted by: Johnny | Jan 19 2026 15:34 utc | 27

Thanks b.
 
One thing European leaders could do is deny entry permission into their countries for every “important” US individual. Just stop them from being able to go everywhere they like. That would tell them something.
 
They could also close the US embassies everywhere.
 
I would also immediately have thrown all the Americans out of the Nato bases, if not close the bases right away because the Nato bases are really American bases. But then, I’m not in charge and I think I know how weak they are. Støre, he’ll still eat from Trump’s hand.

Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 19 2026 15:35 utc | 28

After all this time, it’s amazing how many supposedly intelligent people keep fall for this shit.
 
It’s uncanny.
 
Trump mouths support literally for every possible side of a position, and decides which way is the best to go later.   H1-Bs suck, we’re ending them.  We need H1-Bs, we need smart people.   Incredibly smart given the various powers that really pull the strings in DC.
 
The only thing to watch is his actions and what he does.  There you will know the real game.  He will not allow Oreshnik in VZ or anywhere in the USA’s sphere of influence.  Period.  Thus Maduro had to go.  And a clear warning was sent to all other possible staging countries.   Think again or we’re coming for you.

Posted by: Johnny | Jan 19 2026 15:39 utc | 29

Here it is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11th_Airborne_Division#Twenty-first_century  That’s the paratroopers trained for Arctic warfare
 

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Jan 19 2026 15:39 utc | 30

 
The word unhinged comes to mind. Mega Don’s megalomania seems to be firmly in the drivers seat. God help us all. 

Posted by: Maverick | Jan 19 2026 15:39 utc | 31

Guess the idea of going to hell no longer bothers the dude.
 
Posted by: teri | Jan 19 2026 15:26 utc | 19

 
Sociopaths — and this includes the great majority of politicians — recognize one and only one god: the one they see when they look in the mirror.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 19 2026 15:42 utc | 32

Who can now seriously doubt that Trump has developped dementia symptoms ? Just as Biden’s ones.
Posted by: America is defeated | Jan 19 2026 15:32 utc | 26
 
I must be careful not to use expressions like “lost his mjnd” because he didn’t have a mind to lose. Which brings me to the bridge that b has to offer. There is not a snowball’s chance in hell the Americans will not revolt. So those troops in MN will serve a so-called dual use. I would take the bridge. But what a time to be alive (and how long that will last…)

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 15:43 utc | 33

Trumps favorite NY paper says Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark
Greenlanders speak out against Danish rule after decades of forced sterilization, poor living conditions: ‘They stole our future’

Posted by: circumpsect | Jan 19 2026 15:43 utc | 34

“The worst must be feared from the USA. They are the most destructive power in the world, deadly to the biosphere through their consumption of raw materials and energy, and, through their military might and the absence of a serious political labor movement, a constant threat to world peace. Europe, Asia, Africa, and Latin America will probably have to work together, step by step, to isolate this breeding ground of pestilence.”
-Wolfgang Harich

Posted by: Apollyon | Jan 19 2026 15:44 utc | 35

  1. Personally I think the best strategic European move would be to talk to Putin to end the Ukraine war asap without US involvement. This will cost something but much less than trump. For this to happen, all Ukraine help should be stopped immediately otherwise zelenski will continue to run to Trump. 
  2. Trade and security agreement with Russia
  3. Cheap energy, commerce and stability will allow Europe to get stronger again and independent from the USA 

Speedy actions is needed but I don’t see the European idiots start thinking strategically instead of emotionally 

Posted by: European | Jan 19 2026 15:47 utc | 36

teri | Jan 19 2026 15:26 utc | 19
*** Guess the idea of going to hell no longer bothers the dude.***
 
 
Of course not, since his Zionist chums bought it.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 19 2026 15:47 utc | 37

May I add precious metal prices to the accumulating list?
 
And Gaza is another prospective entry…
 
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 19 2026 15:28 utc | 21

 
Why yes, yes, you may. 😉
 
I should be thrilled that I own some physical Au and Ag, but somehow I’d characterize my prevailing mood as more alarmed and infuriated.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 19 2026 15:47 utc | 38

Bomb first.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jan 19 2026 15:48 utc | 39

The best thing the Europeans could do to counter Trump is to open negotiations with Russia to repair Nord Stream and contract for cheap Russian oil and natural gas. In 2022 the fear was dependence on Russian energy. Now they should be petrified of dependence on US energy.
“To meet the commitment of buying US$250 billion (€215 billion) of energy products from the US per year, the EU would need to source about 70% of its energy imports from the country. The deal effectively ties the bloc’s energy supply to a single seller.” Déjà vu as EU risks overreliance on one gas supplier | IEEFA
Of course, all that will probably happen is for Europe’s current batch of sock-puppets to kiss Donald’s a** or be color revolutioned or kidnapped in favor of other sock-puppets. Maybe those 100,000 US troops stationed in Europe will be tasked with actually doing something…

Posted by: JohnH | Jan 19 2026 15:53 utc | 40

How ’bout the EU joining BRICS?

Posted by: jfrchitect | Jan 19 2026 15:54 utc | 41

The Technate of America
In the 1930s and 1940s, a group of US intellectuals came together and devised and supported a concept aimed at reforming and modernizing the political and social order. Technocratic solutions instead of democratic processes, energy instead of money, rationality instead of political parties were supposed to make life more efficient and conflict-free.
One of the foundations of this concept was an expansion of the territory of the United States. According to this concept, the United States would extend at least from Panama to the Arctic Circle, thus also including Canada and all the Caribbean states, including Cuba, the states of Central America, and parts of Colombia, Venezuela, and the Guianas.
It is an interesting concept, and the question is whether the Trump administration has taken it out of the drawer again.
Basically, the US has two long-term options in its current crisis: fragmentation into three or more individual states, or survival through expansion. It is clear that the latter will entail great risks. But Trump is a gambler, and he loves risk.
If, as announced a few years ago, England then creates its own Northern NATO with Iceland, Norway, the Netherlands, and perhaps Portugal, two major strategic goals would be achieved: the Atlantic would effectively become a huge inland sea, and continental  Europe would be cut off from important trade routes 
Since the latter will sooner or later fall under Russian and Chinese influence anyway, this would be a desirable goal.
Interesting times!
Tempora mutantur et nos mutemur in illis.
 
 

Posted by: Aarsupilani | Jan 19 2026 15:55 utc | 42

Trump is trolling on steroids.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 19 2026 15:55 utc | 43

written document ? 
 
USA’s declaration on Danish sovereignty of Greenland, 1916
DECLARATION.
 
In proceeding this day to the signature of the Convention respecting the cession of the Danish West-Indian Islands to the United States of America, the undersigned Secretary of State of the United States of America, duly authorized by his Government, has the honor to declare that the Government of the United States of America will not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland.
 
Robert Lansing.
 
New York, August 4, 1916
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 19 2026 15:56 utc | 44

Trump will continue to demand Greenland until something is done by Europe to decisively stop him.

b
 
Indeed. The past years the US destroyed Nord Stream and the EUnichs were ok with it, some even applauded it, the war with Russia was intensified to the detriment of the EU, the US empire abducted the Venezuelan elected leader and it was mainly applauded by EUnich leaders thereby legitimizing such legal obscenities.
The EU shouldn’t have stayed out of the US proxy war against Russia 4 years ago and it should have sided with China when the tariff war was initiated in early 2025.
 
 

Unfortunately the current crop of European leaders is the worse the continent had for decades. That’s why I doubt that they will be able to plan and execute any significant measure.

b
 
Fact.
I doubt there will be a violent takeover. The US empire already has some bases there and will likely increase troop presence without permission. In 2 weeks time another real war against Iran will over saturate the news and a handover of Greenland will be done in the background.

Posted by: xor | Jan 19 2026 15:57 utc | 45

Canada must make up it’s mind very quickly: which side it’s on. Otherwise it will be next.They must deny overflight permission to US forces.

Posted by: sirdavide | Jan 19 2026 15:58 utc | 46

did trump really say that? hard to believe!
 
i don’t know i agree with you b…  but i do agree with you about eu leaders…  thanks..

Posted by: james | Jan 19 2026 16:00 utc | 47

It’s not dementia is a show, and everyone is watching it.  As mentioned Trump has been talking about Greenland back in his last term, and as stated above there are other less dramatic ways to acquire this island, the easiest in my mind would be to offer the residences real money to vote to become a US territory.. but Trump needs a show to keep everyone attention,  “he must be crazy, he must have cognitive decline.. what will he do next… and I think he want to humiliate(crush them) the EU leadership, he doesn’t like them and they don’t like him, but they keep blocking his attempts to get “some type” of settlement in Ukraine (if a temporary  one until he leaves the office) so he is going to yank their chains..  And while he may battle with the deepstate on some issues, I am sure they are all in with grabbing Greenland.. 

Posted by: dp | Jan 19 2026 16:02 utc | 48

@Feral Finster #6
“Denmark surrenders Greenland in exchange for American re-engagement in The War On Russia” 
The odds of the U.S. actually honoring such an agreement would require scientific notation and a negative exponent to describe. 

Posted by: BillB | Jan 19 2026 16:02 utc | 49

….all while the Europeans deliberately, foolishly and stubbornly hooked themselves on US LNG while pretending to “deter” Russia. They really screwed up – Greenland will belong to the USA before the end of ’26…and more. 
Brace for maximum volatility, hedge accordingly. 

Posted by: TheSteve | Jan 19 2026 16:02 utc | 50

On the plus side, perhaps Trumpstein has finally found a war the US can actually win!

Posted by: Disinfected | Jan 19 2026 16:03 utc | 51

The essential leverage for Europe against Trump/USA is LNG gas imports. Europeans put themselves in a double bind when they allowed Biden to convince them to stop imports of Russian oil/gas and replacing them with American LNG. Trump’s belligerence is an opportunity to correct that mistake and reopen trade with Russia as a response to the threat to seize Greenland. 

Posted by: Keme | Jan 19 2026 16:03 utc | 52

Polite People

Pentagon claims it has put 1,500 active duty Army paratroopers on alert for a potential deployment to Minnesota…
 
If you believe that the prime U.S. units trained and designated to fight in Arctic climate were put on alarm to put down non-existing riots in Minnesota contact me about buying this huge bridge I have on offer. These troops are without doubt preparing to take over Greenland.

I suspect the 11th Airborne Division will go to Minnesota first before being sent to Greenland. They need training in controlling a civilian population as a hostile occupying force. Minnesota is the perfect place to practice. Beside, there is more show in Minneapolis than in Nuuk.
 
It is interesting to compare the hostile military forces now occupying Minneapolis to the “Little Green Men”, also known as Polite People that appeared in Crimea in March 2014. America will never be able to imitate the same level of politeness. 

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 19 2026 16:07 utc | 54

“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace

Fair enough. Just leave our country and don’t come back. Good bye.
( P.S: the Støre government should resign)

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:11 utc | 55

Its an hour before the ghoul and harpy show begins in Davos.  Their screeching or lack thereof will indicate their affection for the new Pope.
 
Last time Trump was in Davos all the stooges lined up to kiss the ring.  That was a funny spectacle.
 
This Davos meeting is going to be fantastic.  I hope it is the last.
 

Posted by: too scents | Jan 19 2026 16:11 utc | 56

I can hear Putin laughing his head off, from here in Norfolk!

Posted by: sirdavide | Jan 19 2026 16:11 utc | 57

Re: The 11.Airborne Division
note this is a new understrength unit, only created in 2022.  Its 2 brigades came from the 25th Tropic Lightning I.D. The 25th is mostly known for its longstanding culture of grisely atrocities in Korea, Vietnam, and Gulf War I. 
(From wiki, excerpt) ……In the summer of 2022 the U.S. Army Alaskaheadquarters was redesignated as the 11th Airborne Division, and the two Brigade Combat Teams in Alaska, the 1st Brigade Combat Team and 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, were transferred to the 11th Airborne Division and redesignated as the 1st and 2nd Infantry Brigade Combat Team of the 11th Airborne Division.…..,,
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jan 19 2026 16:12 utc | 58

Dutch media just said F-35 has a kill switch.
 
I doubt Europe has ability to design and build a new generation fighter, like for the next 15-20 years, though.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 19 2026 16:13 utc | 59

But Europe has a deficit from buying services from the U.S.  Such services are software, internet applications, TV shows and movies, consulting and some fields of banking businesses.

Boycott US software. Install Linux over windows, use only free (as in libre) , open source software. Do not use US-controlled anti-social media.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:13 utc | 60

Beyond the 11th Airborne Division, the United States cannot realistically operate in the European Arctic without Norwegian support, which is why there is simply no use trying to piss off Norway: Norway provides the geography, infrastructure, local Arctic expertise, and NATO integration the U.S. itself does not have outside Alaska. Its territory controls key air and sea approaches near Russia’s Kola Peninsula, its bases (such as Andøya and Bardufoss) give the U.S. access to forward storage, surveillance, missile warning, and rapid force reception, and its forces train the Americans in real Arctic conditions through large joint exercises like Cold Response. The 11th Airborne may be “Arctic-capable,” but Norway supplies the operational depth, political legitimacy, and allied framework that make Arctic warfare in Europe feasible at all—without Oslo, U.S. Arctic power projection across the North Atlantic and into NATO’s northern flank simply doesn’t work.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 16:14 utc | 61

I will use this thread as the first link goes to the subject, but my couriouser and couriouser moment has been…
 
Why 2 Colby moments from 2 distinct sources? (different angles, but connected)
 
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/the-psychological-stake-in-greenland
 
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/trump-vs-penguins-or-whatever-happened
 

Posted by: Newbie | Jan 19 2026 16:14 utc | 62

Europe should also immediately assemble a multinational independent regiment under Danish command and deploy it to Greenland. It shall protect the land from the ‘Russian’ and ‘Chinese’ intrusions the U.S. professes to fear.

Although the Denish governments have been mega-idiots during the Ukraine debacle, I support this idea.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:15 utc | 63

Denish governments = Danish government

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:16 utc | 64

In consequence Trump will take Greenland … and then go for more.
 
Posted by b on January 19, 2026 at 15:00 UTC | Permalink
 
Of course. Europe isn’t magically going to become stronger economically or militarily. They’re trying to “delay” President Trump until some magical future point but that won’t work either. When America gets Greenland, they’ll still impose tariffs against countries blocking X.
 
And that’s excellent. Many Europeans are led by psychotics who insist on starting war with Russia. President Trump AND President Putin have strong reasons to tear their governments apart. Even nationalists still in the NATO system like Meloni would be a welcome change for Russia.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jan 19 2026 16:16 utc | 65

Thanks for the posting b even if we are all falling for the latest Wag The Dog scene in this four year movie.
 
As others noted above……where are the Epstein files?
 
Can Trump Wag The Dog for three more years?
Will the RoW let him do so?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 19 2026 16:19 utc | 66

Denmark is going to be pressured by the rest of the EU to give up Greenland.
Do I think Denmark will have the balls to stand up against this, like Belgium did with Euroclear?
I do not.
Does this abject surrender of literal EU land to the US, in order to preserve NATO, help the EU?
It does not.
But then again, why would anyone expect the incompetent morons in leadership of the EU Council, of France, of Germany, of the UK, of the Baltics, etc etc to do anything different?
This situation is only occurring because the EU and UK have gone “all in” on the US against Russia in Ukraine. European leaders of the past recognized the value of having Russia to offset the US; European morons masquerading as leaders today, think they were in control of the US but are obviously wrong.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 19 2026 16:19 utc | 67

@Roland | Jan 19 2026 15:17 utc | 11

The biggest joke about the Nobel Peace Price is that the Nobel committee claimed that it is inappropriate to try to transfer the prize to another person, this when Machado wanted to give it to Trump.

The biggest joke was to give it to a traitor of her country on order by Trump. Look where that got us!

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:20 utc | 68

Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 19 2026 15:35 utc | 29
One thing European leaders could do is deny entry permission into their countries for every “important” US individual. Just stop them from being able to go everywhere they like. That would tell them something. They could also close the US embassies everywhere. I would also immediately have thrown all the Americans out of the Nato bases, if not close the bases right away because the Nato bases are really American bases. But then, I’m not in charge and I think I know how weak they are. Støre, he’ll still eat from Trump’s hand.

These range between infeasible and impossible. The US troops stationed e.g. in Germany are occupation troops (Besatzungstruppen), they’re there to limit Berlin’s freedom. You can see this even in mundane cases: a US boy misbehaves (pub brawl or rape) and the legal case is settled not under German jurisdiction, even if it’d formally apply.
 
We know from experience that the USA is willing and able to use violence to deal with opposition in “partner” / vassal countries. Think of the 1980 Bologna massacra and the stay-behind opertions Daniele Ganser wrote about.
 
On top of this hands-on influence over EUrope, the relevant political segment has been groomed pro-US. You can witness the cognitive dissonance right now, and you can also begin to see how they’re trying to solve it: Greenland is indeed threatened by Russia / China, etc.
 
Put yourself in the shoes of a Dutch or West German apparachik, e.g. a secretary for something: you’ve been trained a whole life that “USA = good, Russia/China = communism = bad”. Recently, you belonged to “Trump = bad” which made your life a little uneasy but the hope was (and still is) that next POTUS will bring things back to normal. Now Trump threatens Denmark. You are shocked. Your previous life has not prepared you for this situation. Will you do you something sensible? Can you do something sensible? Probably not. It’ll be pointless gestures all the way down.
 
All bets are up whether EU or NATO dissembles functionally first (the official institutions may linger on for longer). That doesn’t make Europe any more secure, of course. It’s entirely possible we’ll be back in alliances and continental warfare.

Posted by: Konami | Jan 19 2026 16:21 utc | 69

Seen through the same hard-nosed lens, Greenland would be the first domino to fall, and once that goes all bets are off: Iceland would be next in strategic terms, insofar as it is not already de facto U.S. turf. Iceland has no standing army of its own, so in practice its defense is handled almost entirely by the United States within NATO, through air policing missions flown out of Keflavík, naval patrols across the GIUK gap, and U.S.-led command and control under Article 5. Other allies rotate in aircraft or surveillance assets, but the backbone is American—historically rooted in the 1951 defense agreement and still operational today. So while Iceland is formally NATO-defended, in reality it is Washington that defends it, which is precisely why losing Greenland would unravel the whole North Atlantic security architecture and trigger a rapid, uncontrollable escalation northward.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 16:23 utc | 70

As for Trump going for more: I have already posted, multiple times, how Trump is going to take a run at Saskatchewan and Alberta.
The Alberta independence referendum already has more signatures than any other such petition effort in Canadian history. Polls are showing 30% to 40% support for independence; this is actually extremely bad news for “united Canada” because independence referenda always exhibit enormous turnout – meaning the large minority of people who are low propensity voting and answering polls, are going to come out and they will overwhelmingly vote “Leave” as happened with Brexit.
With Greenland, Canada was already surrounded on all sides by Russia and the US; if Alberta departs and takes Saskatchewan with it – even if they don’t become US states – Canada is fucked. A huge proportion of Canadian food and energy comes from these 2 “flyover” provinces.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 19 2026 16:24 utc | 71

I bet it goes the other way. Europe caves and Denmark finds a price it likes to sell Greenland.

Posted by: WG | Jan 19 2026 16:26 utc | 72

@MoaMetal | Jan 19 2026 15:26 utc | 18

Why this Norway digression, when we are debating Denmark here?

Because the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by the Norwegian Nobel Committee and Trump throws a temper tantrum for not receiving the Nobel  Peace Prize. Therefore he threatens non-Peace. 
 
I just saw a statement by Støre saying that NATO is the most important tool to resolve the Greenland issue. I think this issue is the end of NATO.
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:28 utc | 73

Denmark finds a price it likes to sell Greenland.
Posted by: WG | Jan 19 2026 16:26 utc | 73
 
You think so? Denmark will have no say. Remember the art of the deal.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 16:28 utc | 74

@  c1ue | Jan 19 2026 16:24 utc | 72
 
being generous, you might be 1/2 right..

Posted by: james | Jan 19 2026 16:30 utc | 75

For decades the joke has been that Canada will fall apart and Quebec will be the only province left. 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 16:30 utc | 76

It’s obvious what will happen. Greenland becomes a US protectorate, EU won’t use their ‘trade bazooka’ because it would demolish its own economy in the process further, and Trump gives a verbal promise to help in Ukraine.
 
After that, as Darth Vader said, he will alter the deal, EU better pray he won’t alter it further.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 19 2026 16:30 utc | 77

During Trump’s first term Republicans lost control of the House and Senate and Trump lost the presidential election. So why would the party decide to throw its weight behind a loser like him again? They are now reaping what they sowed -they are now all making excuses for grudge-driven punishment of anyone who dares to disagree with him or fails to show enough fealty. It’s like the world’s major superpower is now being led by a very spoilt ten year old brat. He gets away with it because nobody, including western politicians, will stand up to him.
I don’t see anything stopping him – if threatening the sovereignty of a fellow NATO state only draws a ‘well, that’s not very nice’ responses from European politicians, then what would prompt them to take a stand? They already tolerate Trump’s involvement in the Gaza genocide, so are there no limits to what they think is acceptable and what isn’t? 

Posted by: Dave G | Jan 19 2026 16:30 utc | 78

@teri | Jan 19 2026 15:31 utc | 23

Has anyone told Trump that the country of Norway is not the determining body that decides the Nobel Prize recipients?  Just one of those Fun Facts to Know and Share.

It is the Norwegian Nobel Committee on Oslo that awards the Nobel Peace Prize, admittedly not the country of Norway.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:31 utc | 79

For some time the EU elites have been crying about Russia invading NATO; now watch them hand over Greenland to their supposed ally; what a farce

Posted by: Chris N | Jan 19 2026 16:31 utc | 80

@WG #73
I am in complete agreement with Bodica on this one.
This has nothing to do with the “Art of the Deal”, this has to do with a feckless EU serving up Greenland on a platter.
The EU “leaders” have no choice but to do so, given their ongoing hope of continuing the Ukraine grift. So yes, while in theory Europe could send a delegation to Moscow tomorrow – in practice, it will be Ukraine today in Hell (ie very cold with no power for heating) first.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 19 2026 16:34 utc | 81

This is great.
 
No need to stop Trump.
 
He will run out of juice (personally and institutionally) long before he can realize his grandiose ambitions. America doesn’t have the capital to build data centers and the requisite electric grid domestically, they cannot build new mines and refining facilities they have never created before in Greenland.
 
Trump can have Greenland today. Nothing changes. America is decades from being able to use it to supply resources.
 
Try to remember, Trump is always seeking leverage to get what he wants. Greenland would be Arctic leverage against Russia (station missiles and drones ala NATO Ukraine, but now covering Russia’s Arctic Sea route, short distance as the crow flies to Moscow) and the threat of tariffs against NATO countries is his leverage to get Greenland.
 
More noise, little signal.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 19 2026 16:35 utc | 82

@Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 16:14 utc | 62

Beyond the 11th Airborne Division, the United States cannot realistically operate in the European Arctic without Norwegian support…

Reposting from the last open thread:
 
Why does the US need 11 new icebreakers?

Meet Americas newest Ice Breaker. 
https://www.propublica.org/article/aiviq-icebreaker-military-coast-guard
 
Posted by: golddigger | Jan 18 2026 19:58 utc | 73

A quote from the article:

“The question is,” said Brigham, “What is this ship going to be used for? That’s been the question from Day 1. What the hell are we going to use it for?”

This is exactly the same question I asked when I heard the US is about to order 11 new icebreakers from Finland. The obvious answer being to occupy and “liberate” Greenland.
 The deal was agreed upon during Finnish president Alexander Stubb’s meeting with president Trump last fall. It amazed me that president Stubb was so misinformed, that he did not see the connection between the icebreaker deal and Trump’s upcoming land grab of Greenland.
 ***
 Why do Russia, Canada, and the US all buy their icebreakers from Finland?
 It is because Finland has the technology needed, developed over the last 100 years, starting with the WWII era battleships Väinämöinen and Ilmarinen. Namely a diesel-electric power train with fully rotatable Azipod propeller pods.
 
The linked article criticizes the US Coast Guard’s purchase of the icebreaker Aiviq because of its direct-drive propulsion system that is “both less efficient and more likely to get jammed up in ice than the diesel-electric systems the Coast Guard used.”

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 19 2026 16:35 utc | 83

@Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 15:31 utc | 25

I would have liked to see Jonas Gahr Store’s face when he read that.

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/oEAbm0/trump-langer-ut-mot-norge-de-har-alt-med-det-aa-gjoere

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:35 utc | 84

@james #76
That the possibility of Canadian Secession even exists is a testament to the incompetence of Canada’s leaders.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 19 2026 16:36 utc | 85

Polls are showing 30% to 40% support for independence; 
 
Posted by: c1ue | Jan 19 2026 16:24 utc | 72
 
The Canadian media was obviously lying when they insisted that 30% was the ceiling of support for sovereignty. Anyone who has been to Alberta knows the percentage is much higher. Perhaps not enough to win, but that won’t matter. One Premier Smith invites American troops into Alberta, it will be incredibly difficult to get them to leave.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jan 19 2026 16:37 utc | 86

Now, if he can’t or isn’t allowed to invade Iran… perhaps he’ll then have time for Greenland. Others say it will give Putin time to tick off one of the SMO’s goals: the destruction of NATO.
Because that’s precisely the service Trump would then provide for Putin.
And who in Europe should stop Trump? Who in Europe can afford to? Europe has chosen energy dependence; Europe needs the mercy of the USA.
Or must it make peace with Russia again, which perhaps explains the speech by German Chancellor Merz. Suddenly, Russia belongs to Europe; suddenly, nothing works in Europe without Russia.
Europe without Russia’s raw materials is not viable; it cannot survive if the USA is at the other end of the supply chain.
Trump will take Greenland and put further pressure on Canada. It’s about the Arctic, and the length of the borders to the Arctic justify the territorial claims. The USA currently only has Alaska’s borders to the Arctic. Russia, on the other hand, has a border to the Arctic Circle 23 times longer, thus 23 times more claim to territory and therefore to resources.
Where will Europe get its energy from if the US turns off the tap or makes it so expensive?
Qatar and Saudi Arabia will be careful; they won’t pick a fight with either the US or Russia. Africa is increasingly coming to power and needs energy.
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc., need wheat because they don’t want to repeat the experience of the Arab Spring, which began with high prices for wheat and corn..
Does a Merz or a Macron now want to independently reopen N2?
If winter continues like this in Germany, gas storage facilities will be below 25% in February, below the necessary “cushion fill.” Then Trump will already be obligated to deliver LNG. The Arabs will wait until the price is 500% or more. Russia will rather send its shadow fleet to China than Rotterdam or Rügen in the Baltic Sea
SOWho seriously wants to stop Trump with Greenland?… And it’s NOT about strategic partnership, it’s about actual US borders to the Arctic, actual national borders to that area… and to extend them accordingly… Canada will also have to become a federal state, because THEY are a strategic partner, yes… but as I said, national border lengths to the Arctic are needed… not strategic partners!

Posted by: Genesis | Jan 19 2026 16:38 utc | 87

@Avtonom | Jan 19 2026 15:35 utc | 29
 
Agreed, that needs to happen.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:39 utc | 88

All the threatened European countries should announce that they will shut all US embassies on the day these tariffs come onto force and announce the reopening of Nord Stream gas pipeline (one of them still works, I believe).

Posted by: Dave G | Jan 19 2026 16:39 utc | 89

Let’s agree that Team Trump is extremely efficient at shaping the discourse.
 
Team Trump has been less effective at their claimed goals, see Venezuela, Iran, Ukraine. But if the primordial goal was disruption — then it’d be a pretty good effort. I am neither a goldbug nor a economist but I get the feeling that the US government’s actions are desperate: iteratively bigger and faster attempts to postpone or cover up a massive crash. I am sure that the “madness” is intentional and that nobody is crazy (in the sense of irrational behavior).

Posted by: Konami | Jan 19 2026 16:39 utc | 90

It amazed me that president Stubb was so misinformed, that he did not see the connection between the icebreaker deal and Trump’s upcoming land grab of Greenland.
 
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 19 2026 16:35 utc | 84

 
Why assume that Stubb was misinformed or unaware of the connection?

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 19 2026 16:40 utc | 91

DJT is absolutely correct……..
Denmark and the EU have zero capacity to defend and secure Greenland.  Its navy bases no major warships there, and has no army contingents stationed there either.
Greenland is larger than Texas and Alaska combined.
The EU task force consisted of 35 troops!  35! Laughable at best!  The RN navy’s main combatants can even leave Portsmouth!
And yes Virginia, the Chinese are attempting to secure mineral rights in Greenland, and their ‘research’ ships (armed icebreakers) have been ‘visiting’ the area.  RF icebreakers are often in the area.  Where have you folks been anyway?
The US has every right to secure its Northern approaches………..think down the line 20 or 30 years…..for gosh sakes. 

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 19 2026 16:40 utc | 92

Restart Nordstream. Norway takes the lead. 
Norway sends him a bucket of peace medals.

Posted by: browning | Jan 19 2026 16:40 utc | 93

@Dave G #79
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Trump 2016 tried to be MAGA and was openly opposed by the neocons in Congress.
Trump 2024 is literally the opposite, as far as foreign policy goes, and is supported by the neocons in Congress.
Equally, your understanding of the Republican party is completely lacking. Voter wise – there is a clear split between Boomer era conservatives – who support Israel and are ok with US imperialism vs. the younger generations who are significantly anti-Israel, anti-imperialism.
And power broker wise – the neocons are still there as they are in the Republican party leadership, in Congress – particularly the Senate and in Trump’s Cabinet in the form of Ratcliffe and Rubio. The MAGA types are focused more on domestic: RFK in HHS in particular but also Interior and Energy. The Libertarians in the form of Musk are out of Trump’s government and largely irrelevant in Congress.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 19 2026 16:41 utc | 94

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 19 2026 16:35 utc | 84
 
Yes, the irony is off the charts here. To keep their economies afloat NATO countries now provide the US with the equipment to tear NATO apart.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 19 2026 16:42 utc | 95

He will not allow Oreshnik in VZ or anywhere in the USA’s sphere of influence.  Period.  Thus Maduro had to go.  And a clear warning was sent to all other possible staging countries.   Think again or we’re coming for you.
Posted by: Johnny | Jan 19 2026 15:39 utc | 30
 
If this was 1962 you’d likely be right however today Russia has submarines parked off the coast of the USA armed with Bulava missiles which has twice the range and throw weight as the Oreshnik. These will soon be  supplemented with the new submarine launched nuclear tipped kalibre land attack cruise missile variant with a range extended to 2500 km and speeds up to mach 3.
 
If that ain’t enough they have those massive Posidon torpedos that can be sitting on the seabed anywhere waiting for a wake up call.
 
I think spending upwards of $100B to keep a naval armada off the coast of Venezuela to stop a threat that’s superceded by other weapons makes little sense however if you can extract $$$ Trillion or so of mineral and energy wealth while providing investment opportunities for the guys who funded your campaign then it makes perfect sense.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jan 19 2026 16:42 utc | 96

andżej | Jan 19 2026 15:11 utc | 5

Sure, go on and tax aws, google cloud, azure, anthropic and whannot then sit and watch as EU customers immediately switch to domestic alternatives… like for example… ehmm…. mhm…. 

I’m sure we’d suffer heavily, once deprived from Netflix, Spotify and Hollywood movies. It would probably spell economical and political desaster if all those bored people would start to think of doing something productive and meaningful.

Posted by: Moses | Jan 19 2026 16:43 utc | 97

For those of you who obsess over Trump (this is why I write “Team Trump” or similar):
 
What would happen, in your opinion, if the good Don bites it (something harmless, food poisoning or old age, say) and JD Vance takes over?
 
Would US policies really change? Get over the man!

Posted by: Konami | Jan 19 2026 16:43 utc | 98

@European | Jan 19 2026 15:47 utc | 37
 
Agreed. I have had this opinion for 4 years. 

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 19 2026 16:44 utc | 99

All the threatened European countries should announce that they will shut all US embassies on the day these tariffs come onto force and announce the reopening of Nord Stream gas pipeline (one of them still works, I believe).
 
Posted by: Dave G | Jan 19 2026 16:39 utc | 90

 
and Russia should say “First pay for the repair of the other three pipelines and the lost gas, and then we’ll talk. Maube.”

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 19 2026 16:44 utc | 100