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January 9, 2026
Trump Has Changed And TDS With Him

When Trump did win his second term there were many people, including here, who were a bit in panic. Other characterized that as a ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ (TDS).

I had preferred Trump over the blabbering incompetent person the Democrats had put up as their candidate. I did not like Trump’s policies but I also thought that he would do just minor damage just like during his first term in office.

At first it looked like I had been right. The Alaska meeting with President Putin went reasonably well. The war in Ukraine seemed to move towards some sane outcome. His domestic policies were a bit wild but not far off from the expected trajectory.

Things have been going downward since. Something has definitely changed. But why and how this derangement happened is yet unknown.

The late December CIA attack on Putin’s residence in the Novgorod region, which includes strategic command facilities, has broken the rules that have governed relations between nuclear powers over many decades. Those relations have now deteriorated beyond fixing.

The attack on Venezuela was likewise beyond any reasonability. There is little chance that the U.S. will ever get what it wants from the country without on the ground intervention. But any commitment of troops to Caracas would end in disaster.

The administration defense of ICE goons, who clearly broke all rules of policing when they killed an innocent women, is also beyond all reasonability. There are certainly ways to explain the incident but they decided to smear the obvious victim.

That such behavior has become and will stay the norm for the Trump administration can be concluded from two recent interviews.

The first was on January 5 at CNN with Trump aide Stephen Miller:

TAPPER: So let’s — the question about who is now running Venezuela is one that even members of Congress who are big Trump supporters say they’re not quite sure about. Senate Majority Leader John Thune told CNN’s Manu Raju that he doesn’t know what President Trump meant by his assertion that the U.S. is running Venezuela. And he said he needs more information. Can you tell us what the President means when he says, is acting President Delcy Rodriguez in charge? Is she running Venezuela or not?

MILLER: Well, what the President said is true. The United States of America is running Venezuela. By definition, that’s true. Jake, we live in a law, I’m sorry, we live in a world in which you can talk all you want about international niceties and everything else, but we live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power. These are the iron laws of the world that have existed since the beginning of time. The United States —

TAPPER: But are you saying — but in terms of day-to-day operations in Venezuela, that is president, Acting President Rodriguez, right? It’s not some sort of American emissary.

MILLER: No, what I’m saying is, and we’ll keep going here, Jake. So I want to say what I’m saying, and then you’ll follow up. But what I’m saying is just one level above that, which is that, by definition, we are in charge because we have the United States military stationed outside the country. We set the terms and conditions. We have a complete embargo on all of their oil and their ability to do commerce.

So for them to do commerce, they need our permission. For them to be able to run an economy, they need our permission. So the United States is in charge. The United States is running the country during this transition period.

Miller really seems to believe that this is how the world works. It isn’t.

The second interview, on January 7, was by the NY Times with Trump himself:

Trump Lays Out a Vision of Power Restrained Only by ‘My Own Morality’ (archived)

The relevant excerpt of craziness:

Asked in a wide-ranging interview with The New York Times if there were any limits on his global powers, Mr. Trump said: “Yeah, there is one thing. My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me.”

“I don’t need international law,” he added. “I’m not looking to hurt people.”

When pressed further about whether his administration needed to abide by international law, Mr. Trump said, “I do.” But he made clear he would be the arbiter when such constraints applied to the United States.

“It depends what your definition of international law is,” he said.

Mr. Trump’s assessment of his own freedom to use any instrument of military, economic or political power to cement American supremacy was the most blunt acknowledgment yet of his worldview. At its core is the concept that national strength, rather than laws, treaties and conventions, should be the deciding factor as powers collide.

Trump’s take on domestic limits exposes a similar might-makes-right vision:

On the domestic front, Mr. Trump suggested that judges only have power to restrict his domestic policy agenda — from the deployment of the National Guard to the imposition of tariffs — “under certain circumstances.”

But he was already considering workarounds. He raised the possibility that if his tariffs issued under emergency authorities were struck down by the Supreme Court, he could repackage them as licensing fees. And Mr. Trump, who said he was elected to restore law and order, reiterated that he was willing to invoke the Insurrection Act and deploy the military inside the United States and federalize some National Guard units if he felt it was important to do so.

So far, he said, “I haven’t really felt the need to do it.”

TDS has changed its meaning. Trump is deranged and its not just a syndrome. I have yet to make up my mind of what is most likely to follow from this.

Is the U.S. sliding down the path towards full fascism? Or is this all pure bluster that will end as soon as it experience a serious bulwark?

Comments

One more for the road…
 
Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 10 2026 17:48 utc | 500
 
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FUKUS…
 
Coalition of Killing
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[Mr Fish, courtesy Consortium News]
 
Thats all folks

Posted by: denk | Jan 10 2026 17:58 utc | 501

I think Trump is trying to divert attention from the Epstein Files. He is also clinically insane. I agree. He was not like that 2 years ago. His mental state is deteriorating rapidly.

Posted by: Alfred (Hurghada) | Jan 10 2026 18:02 utc | 502

Posted by: duck n cover | Jan 10 2026 17:43 utc | 498
Calm down Francis, you’ll have an aneurysm.

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 18:08 utc | 503

duck and cover – Yes, the US has all kinds of problems of our own … we will or will not fix them on our own … all empires have their sell-by date, after all, and as Randy Newman said “the end of an empire is messy at best; and this one is ending like all the rest”. We will see what becomes of this one over time.
But none of this is any excuse for the idiocies of the IR … their corruption and misrule are all their own and the Iranian people themselves will be the final judge of whether a second revolution is needed to replace the first. It took the French how many tries to get to some level of a real republic? And a very imperfect one, for all that? Iran’s just on the first … they have a long way to go 🙂 
Lovedumbass gets annoyed when his/her diarrhetic postings are called out for the BS they are … spamming comments and sheer weight of words are not a replacement for thought, however … again, LD, care to comment on your nonsense re the Rial’s inflation versus the dollar? 
 

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 10 2026 18:13 utc | 504

{preferred Trump over the blabbering incompetent person}
I cant believe you said this! Even Kama Lama Ding Dong in a blind blacked out ossified drunk stupor, is still more mentally competent than Forest Gump Trump. He did one thing – solidified the intellectual caliber of not only the entire US but perhaps the entire planet.
The man doesn’t exist. His entire persona is an absolute outright bona fide lie, a charade, a farce, a hologram and a mirage as solidified by the 34 felony counts his was convicted of for (drum roll please) LYING and falsifying his business records.
The man is two-bit shyster and even that’s a complement because if he had two living brain cells they’d kill each other. The man has been robbing from Peter to pay Paul his entire life as to give the appearance of great wealth which Barbara Walters exposed brilliantly proving to the world he was delusional but far worst today. Look how he cowardly says, you don’t have to say that. 
https://www.facebook.com/NextGenAmerica/videos/barbara-walters-interviews-donald-trump-1990/4077033235915008/
Botton line, if this man were your doctor how fast would you run out of the office and yet millions of people are just as delusional as he is. There is no President DJT. Can you say political theater? The sooner people start to eliminating his name entirely, and instead, using the USA the faster this ruse will reach it’s immanent downfall. He was deliberately installed because he is the greatest distraction in the history of politics. People really need to worry regarding the magnitude of things going on behind the scenes while he is center stage.    
The imbecile has airplane models on his desk, seriously people? Even Joe Biden is more cognitive then he is. What more possible proof does anyone need to see to realize he is severely learning disabled and most likely also on the spectrum, high functioning autism. He’s a man child, if that! I would bet anyone his IQ is borderline  and or in the low 70’s.   
 
 
 

Posted by: BJ | Jan 10 2026 18:20 utc | 505

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 16:57 utc | 473

Lies. Again and again. That’s all what you have left. About Maduro, about Minneapolis, about Gaza. Never ending lies.
 
But we’ll see. I don’t think things will end here. I book my seat to watch the collapse of your cult, and hopefully, of your godforsaken country.
 

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 18:24 utc | 506

caliman, ru Claude or grok?

Posted by: paddy | Jan 10 2026 18:24 utc | 507

“Lovedumbass gets annoyed  ”
LD seems to get it right about half the time, totally wrong the other half. So basically a bloviating nothingness of zero value.
Though I will say I really do appreciate LD using ####### in posts. Makes it so much easier to identify and skip them.
 
 

Posted by: sureOK | Jan 10 2026 18:26 utc | 508

Posted by: Alfred (Hurghada) | Jan 10 2026 18:02 utc | 505
 
The exact same thing was true for Biden. I think Biden was taking amphetamine and I think Trump is, as well.  

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 10 2026 18:42 utc | 509

Paddy – What gives, brother? Just because someone thinks the not just our own fools and tools but also the cretins who run the “official enemy” countries like Iran also misrule is somehow beyond your pale and sign of AI?
Does it really really seem to you that iran and Venezuela were well-run worker’s paradises and that their only problem was the US pressure? Seems quite silly to me but to each his/her own … 

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 10 2026 18:47 utc | 510

But do remember that the Arab Spring started with just one guy setting himself on 🔥 in Tunisia. 
 
Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 10 2026 17:48 utc | 500

 
And Aaron Bushnell’s self-immolation, which I regard as noble and heroic, didn’t start anything.  Americans lack the moral fiber and courage of Tunisians.
 

I think Trump is trying to divert attention from the Epstein Files. He is also clinically insane. I agree. He was not like that 2 years ago. His mental state is deteriorating rapidly.
 
Posted by: Alfred (Hurghada) | Jan 10 2026 18:02 utc | 505

 
— which in a way makes him the perfect US president.
 

[Mr Fish, courtesy Consortium News]
 
Posted by: denk | Jan 10 2026 17:58 utc | 504

 
Mr Fish, easily the best political cartoonist in the USA, is a cashier at a Trader Joe’s.  That’s how much his work is appreciated.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 18:48 utc | 511

The US Terrorist/Pirate Regimes accomplices – get in on the act in Venezuela.
 
“Halliburton filed a lawsuit against Venezuela this December for damages it incurred when it was forced out of the country by Trump’s unilateral sanctions Rather than seeking financial restitution from Washington, these vultures targeted Venezuela’s government”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 10 2026 19:06 utc | 512

Another US Terrorist/Pirate Regime accomplice makes demands.
 
“Exxon CEO Darren Woods is saying he wants what his company always sought in Venezuela, but couldn’t get post-Chavez: laissez faire laws guaranteeing maximum foreign plunder without having to pay back into the state”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 10 2026 19:07 utc | 513

The Yankee kangaroo court and Maduro’s fit up.
 
“The US indictment of Maduro relies on testimony from Hugo Carvajal, who will likely serve as the DOJ’s main witness But Carvajal has cut a secret deal to reduce his own sentence in exchange for securing Maduro’s conviction.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 10 2026 19:08 utc | 514

Meanwhile, Trump & friends know how to exploit every opportunity, either blatantly criminal or bordering to the criminal. Here, from Grayzone, about operations in Greenland:
 
https://thegrayzone.com/2026/01/09/greenland-miners-hire-trump-lobbyists/

Posted by: Avtonom | Jan 10 2026 19:10 utc | 515

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 18:24 utc | 509
and let me guess you’re the… Purveyor of truth?
Sorry dude it’s already been well established what she was and what she was doing. She was there doing a stunt to interfere with law-enforcement and having her wife film it.
She just got more than she bargained for which is what happens when you do stupid things like that.
 
You don’t have to like it, but you don’t get to control the facts.
 
All nations and empires end, and that doesn’t really worry me. But it’s not gonna be for quite a while still so you better buckle up princess!

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 19:15 utc | 516

Posted by: sureOK | Jan 10 2026 18:26 utc | 511
Far be it for me to defend LoveDonbass, but if you don’t like her posts, simply don’t engage with her.
It’s not supposed to be an agreefest, no point getting personal.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 19:22 utc | 517

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 19:22 utc | 520
LOL. Oblivious to the irony of your post?
Maybe take your own advice?

Posted by: twitfinder | Jan 10 2026 19:25 utc | 518

More of Trump’s accomplices cashing in.
 
“Energy Transition Minerals has hired Pam Bondi’s firm, Ballard Partners, which represented Palantir, Boeing, Amazon, Meta, Qatar, and the private prison firm Geo Group Trump Inc’s crony capitalist swamp is washing up on Greenland’s shores”
 
Greenland mining firm hires Trump-tied lobbyists amid US invasion threats – The Grayzone

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 10 2026 19:26 utc | 519

Does it really really seem to you that iran and Venezuela were well-run worker’s paradises and that their only problem was the US pressure? Seems quite silly to me but to each his/her own …
 
Posted by: Caliman | Jan 10 2026 18:47 utc | 513
 
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Iran and Venezuela are workers’ paradises just like America.
 
America has jobs with dignity and respect.
 
The US maintains excellent diplomatic relations with the world.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:29 utc | 520

The thing that is different today over past thuggery is the MAGA folk believe half the country are criminals which inevitably means fascism mis needed to keep order.

Posted by: WG | Jan 10 2026 19:36 utc | 522

LD- Arguing with yourself again? Of course the US has all kinds of problems. Who would deny it? Late empire is a bitch and we are suffering it as we speak. We will deal with our issues hopefully as we transition back to some version of a normal republic over the next decades as China replaces us as #1 or we won’t and will crash and burn … that remains to be seen.
 
The point is that just because our oligarchy is a corrupt, self-dealing, and cretinous one is NOT evidence that the ones leading official “enemies” like Iran and VZ are not ALSO corrupt, self-dealing, and cretinous and therefore ripe for revolution from within. How hard is that to understand and deal with?

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 10 2026 19:38 utc | 523

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:29 utc | 523
 
Well done.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 10 2026 19:48 utc | 524

No that is a damn lie. She was an authorized observer of the ICE operation. . . .
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 12:55 utc | 437
 
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“Authorized”? \By whom?
Don’t make me laugh.
It is ICE law enforcement that is “authorized” by US law to carry out actions to detain illegal immigrants.
No one has a legal right to interfere with law enforcement activities. They can observe but they must understand—that is surely part of their training—that there are risks to trying to obstruct law enforcement. Duh. 
As for Good’s being an “observer,” look at the videos. She was not “observing.” She was participating by getting in the way. It was her wife who was “observing” by taking the video that surely was supposed to go viral.
Furthermore, Good behaved like a grown-up brat toward law-enforcement officers.
Sure, being a brat shouldn’t get you killed, but if you put yourself in the middle of a “conflict” situation and you obstruct law enforcement and on top of it do not obey their orders to get out of the way, get out of your car, whatever, then all bets are off.
 
I am incredulous of the cavalier attitude of Caveman and others here regarding the enormous costs of illegal immigration—yes, also in treasure—to US society and regular Americans  (aka taxpayers), in particular certain immigrant communities that have developed multi-billion-dollar grifts and scams.
 
I am quite certain that if B takes the time to look at the videos showing the incident from muliple angles he will realize that they do not support the conclusions jumped to by the American MSM.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 19:50 utc | 525

Posted by: Johnny7 | Jan 10 2026 16:39 utc | 460 ##### Iran doesn’t have “mullahs”. Maybe sit this one out, ok? Fox News is not an educational resource.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 16:47 utc | 466

 
Iran doesn’t have “mullahs” …
says who?

Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 19:51 utc | 526

Largely agree about Trump but you lost me at :”The administration defense of ICE goons, who clearly broke all rules of policing when they killed an innocent women””
I’ve seen video of the women deliberately driving her car at the man.

Posted by: Bill Jones | Jan 10 2026 19:58 utc | 527

It is ICE law enforcement that is “authorized” by US law to carry out actions to detain illegal immigrants.
 
Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 19:50 utc | 528
 
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Just like the Israelis are authorized to “administer” the West Bank, right?
 
Just like American settlers were “authorized” to conduct the Trail of Tears, and the US Army to use Agent Orange in Vietnam?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:58 utc | 528

Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 19:51 utc | 529
 
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Clearly, I said it.
 
What is a Mullah?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:59 utc | 529

The great leader Castro to Chavez, its a pity he’s not here to aid Maduro right now against the US Terrorist/Pirate Regime and its ever obedient minions.
 
“April 12, 2002, early morning: Fidel’s call At 12:38 am, an aide tells him, “Mr. President, you have a call from Commander Fidel Castro.” Chávez picks up the phone immediately, somewhat anxious. Since early in the afternoon of April 11, Fidel had been trying to reach him. Fidel quickly asks about the situation at that moment, and Chávez responds.
 
“We’re here in the Palace, entrenched,” he begins. “We’ve lost the military force that could have been decisive. They cut our television signal. I have no forces to mobilize and I’m assessing the situation.” “What forces do you have there?” Fidel asks quickly. “Between 200 and 300 men, completely exhausted.” “Do you have tanks?” “No, there were tanks but they withdrew to their barracks.” “What other forces can you count on?” Fidel presses. “There are others further away, but I have no communication with them,” Chávez replies, alluding to General Baduel and the paratroopers, the armored division in Maracaibo, and the other loyal forces. Fidel pauses briefly and with great delicacy says: “May I offer an opinion?” Chávez responds immediately: “Yes.”
 
“Negotiate honorable and dignified terms, and preserve the lives of your men—they are your most loyal. Don’t sacrifice them, and don’t sacrifice yourself,” Fidel says in the most persuasive tone possible. “They’re all prepared to die here!” Chávez responds with emphasis and emotion. “I know, but I believe I can think more calmly than you can right now,” Fidel adds without missing a beat, as Chávez listens intently to every word.
 
“Don’t resign. Demand honorable, guaranteed conditions so you don’t fall victim to treachery—because I believe you must preserve yourself. Besides, you have a duty to your comrades. Don’t immolate yourself! Don’t step down! Don’t resign!” 48 hours later, Chávez was back in the presidency.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 10 2026 20:02 utc | 530

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 19:50 utc | 528
“and on top of it do not obey their orders to get out of the way, get out of your car, whatever, then all bets are off.”
Three different pigs were screaming three different orders. Go watch all the video angles with sound.
She complied with one, so that justifies a death sentence for the other two contradictory orders? How convenient for the armed government workers….. All they have to do is give contradictory orders and blowing the target away when they comply with one is OK….
 
Yes, she put herself in a bad situation.  That so many think that deserves a bullet to the head? Excellent. When your brain is splattered on the pavement by trigger happy cowards, because of misunderstanding or panic, no whining.
I hope every “she deserved it” commenter gets exactly the same treatment one day.
 
RIP humanity and consideration.
 

Posted by: gfy | Jan 10 2026 20:04 utc | 531

it’s a bit of a stretch but as always Krainer makes it at least plausible.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 17:26 utc | 489
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Krainer’s basic geopolitical viewpoint makes sense to me:
Namely, that “left” and “right” don’t realliy mean much, and the true way to understand the political landscape is in terms of globalists vs. nationalist or nation-statists.
 
Krainer pegs Trump as an anti-globalist. In some respects this seems to be true, but there are major inconsistencies.
 
The problem  with this view of what Trump is up to is that (in my book, at least) the heart of “globalism” is Zionism and international banking and finance, much of which is controlled by Jews. And of course the big AI outfits that want to impose globalist control agendas are controlled by Jews/Zionists (Thiel, Paul Singer, Ellison, Zuckerberg, and Rothschilds, Bill Gates, the Maxwell family, and many more).
 
So whatever Trump does for the Zionists and these other folks would seem to be by definition globalist. So it is hard to make the argument that the Ven. caper is basically nationalist and anti-globalist. Because the Israelis are certainly behind that action.
 
Still, I think Krainers schema does offer some good starting points for analysis. It explains some of Trump but definitely not all.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 20:11 utc | 532

..
What is a Mullah?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:59 utc | 532

I’m tempted to reply “a long winded male blow hard”  but I don’t know – google says they have them.

Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 20:12 utc | 533

@Jane #528
Your characterization is inaccurate.
The verbal behavior of the woman is not the reason that she is dead.
She is dead because the ICE agent in front of the car, heard the tires spinning because the woman stepped on the accelerator. Because of this, he believed he was under threat to be run over by an SUV. Any car is a potential deadly weapon, and law enforcement agents are ALWAYS authorized to use force if they believe their own life is in danger.
That this agent was dragged by the car in the past and injured, is certainly not an excuse but likely factored in his action – but the point is that a) the car is a potential deadly weapon b) the car was being driven in a way such that the agent could legitimately believe he was being threatened by said deadly weapon.
And furthermore: the woman was very clearly engaged in an attempt to interfere with law enforcement activity. I think this is a tragedy but I also firmly believe that anyone who interferes with law enforcement in their legal activity is widening the window of possible outcomes to include many very bad outcomes for themselves. It doesn’t matter if you are resisting arrest legitimately or not, resisting arrest escalates the situation. And equally, sticking your nose into an active law enforcement activity also escalates the situation.
As such, the Left’s messaging that encouraged this woman’s actions was clearly a factor in creating this situation, and the woman’s actions – her intent clearly to zip away from the situation like she could/would from other similar confrontational situations – was exactly the wrong reaction.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 10 2026 20:13 utc | 534

 
https://x.com/tiberiusfiles/status/2009976266276123114
Tiberius  @tiberiusfiles 
 
When we let our leaders do genocide unchecked, they’re not going to think twice about killing any of us, kidnapping world leaders, starting more wars, or literally anything else 
 
Welcome to the future, brought to you by Western impunity and media complicity.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 10 2026 20:20 utc | 535

I’m surprised to see Jane sitting in the short bus with Tobias Cole, S Brennan, Sean the Leprous etc.

Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 20:22 utc | 536

Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 20:12 utc | 536
 
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Well, if Google says so, then it must be true.
 
I wonder what Google thinks a Mullah is…
 
I’m a jerk (obviously). I like to know what words I am using and what the meaning of those words is.
 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 20:24 utc | 537

..What is a Mullah?Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:59 utc | 532

I’m tempted to reply “a long winded male blow hard”  but I don’t know – google says they have them.
Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 20:12 utc | 536
 
google says Iran has mullahs.

Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 20:24 utc | 538

“Authorized”? \By whom?Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 19:50 utc | 528

Not “by whom ?” By what ?
 
The First Amendment, stupid.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 20:26 utc | 539

Haven’t read this thread, so dunno if this has already been posted, however quoting b:
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>”I had preferred Trump over the blabbering incompetent person the Democrats had put up as their candidate. I did not like Trump’s policies but I also thought that he would do just minor damage just like during his first term in office.”</BLOCKQUOTE>
 
That’s when tRump killed hundreds to thousands of american’s who’d developed Covid from June of 2019, when their plannedemic began in the Springfield, Va. area near washington dc in earnest at upscale retirement communities. The origin of this ‘mysterious respiratory disease similar to pneumonia, but far more deadly was fort detrick’s bio 4 lab, which the lab was shut down in August of 2019, because of pathogens escaping their waste system. T’was shut down permanently by the state of Md., because of too many serious  violations spanning decades, but was reopened by the army citing national security concerns during the spring of 2020.  Their plannedemic was covered up for six months, until December of 2019, when China discovered their first case and tRump could point his finger and blame China. His personal recommendations afterwards were to drink bleach, or take remdesivir for an antidote, until his clot shots were brought to us at “warp speed” for Pompeo’s “live exercise”. 
Imo, anyone voting for tRump in 2020, or ’24 paid little attention to his first disastrous term and if you don’t believe the above, just google it, it’s all still on the internet, in local news for anyone to view. Our military infected others by sending american soldier/athletes to military olympics held every four years at different venues worldwide and during November 2019 they were held in Wuhan, China. Our athletes performed uncharacteristically poorly and many had to be sent home early, because of a mysterious illness.    
 
 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jan 10 2026 20:28 utc | 540

I’m surprised to see Jane sitting in the short bus with Tobias Cole, S Brennan, Sean the Leprous etc.
 
Posted by: tucenz | Jan 10 2026 20:22 utc | 539

 
Well, that makes one of us.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:32 utc | 541

Posted by: twitfinder | Jan 10 2026 19:25 utc | 521
Au contraire, that was her advice to me some time ago.
Good advice, which I have endeavoured to follow.
(For the most part).

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 20:34 utc | 542

@ aye, myself & me | Jan 10 2026 20:28 utc | 543
 
What, you mean all those Fall 2019 cases weren’t just bad vaping? (and strangely disappeared with no change in the composition of the vapes)? 😉 :-)))

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 20:41 utc | 543

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:29 utc | 523
On days like this I avoid the comment threads.
Trolls old and new.
They are getting clever with their slight twisting of the truth instead of the hammer. Surprised at a couple but not really. 
If I see a new prolific commenter I just stick to the article. 

Posted by: ld | Jan 10 2026 20:48 utc | 544

@Jane #528Your characterization is inaccurate.The verbal behavior of the woman is not the reason that she is dead.. . .
Posted by: c1ue | Jan 10 2026 20:13 utc | 537
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Her verbal behavior was indeed a symptom of the attitude that led her to put herself in harm’s way.
I agree with the rest of your description, which is what videos and other information sources show and confirm. But one of the videos does also show the very inappropriate conduct and communications of this woman in the situation in which she had put herself.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 20:49 utc | 545

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 20:11 utc | 535
I am not sure about Trump’s true intent either.
Many of the institutions he has quit (WHO, GAVI, B+M Gates foundation) I’m fairly OK with.
The BIS and WTO are more alarming, though malign institutions too, it could be an indicator of a coming US default.
Good luck trying to get paid, Rest of the World.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 20:49 utc | 546

Just like the Israelis are authorized to “administer” the West Bank, right? Just like American settlers were “authorized” to conduct the Trail of Tears, and the US Army to use Agent Orange in Vietnam?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 19:58 utc | 531
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Hey, Dumbass, up to your old tricks!!
I didn’t introduced the “authorized” term.
The poop just keeps coming.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 20:53 utc | 547

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 10 2026 20:13 utc | 537
” heard the tires spinning”
I have heard no such thing on any of the videos. I have not even heard such thing even asserted by the lying pricks at the White House. The vehicle slowly pulled forward, AND RIGHT, away from the pig at front left. 
The vehicle did not lurch forward as ‘tires spinning’ would have caused.
If you have evidence of ‘tires spinning’, please post it.
 
 

Posted by: somebs | Jan 10 2026 20:55 utc | 548

The First Amendment, stupid.
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 20:26 utc | 542
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Nah, you be the stoopid one. The First Amendment doesn’t “authorize” anything. It protects free speech.
It most certainly does not “authorize”  obstructing law enforcement bt positioning one’s vehicle athwart a street.
 
You and Dumbass really need to get together on this “authorize” business.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 20:58 utc | 549

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 10 2026 20:13 utc | 537
She is dead because the ICE agent in front of the car, heard the tires spinning because the woman stepped on the accelerator. Because of this, he believed he was under threat to be run over by an SUV.

False. First, he was not in front of the vehicle when he shot. While he walked around the car from the passenger side to the driver’s side, Renee Good had already turned her wheels in the opposite direction, from the driver’s side (left) to the passenger’s side (right). When he drew his gun (after he had quickly put his phone back in his pocket which gave the fake impression he had been bumped by the car but that was denied by video from other angles ), the car was already positioned to go away from him. He shot as he stood right at the left front fender of Good’s SUV and lodged the first bullet in the corner of the windshield on the driver’s side.

Any car is a potential deadly weapon, and law enforcement agents are ALWAYS authorized to use force if they believe their own life is in danger.

Mostly untrue. I’ve heard somewhere some police officer said it was absolutely against police safety rules to shoot a moving vehicle. Guess why ? You just said it yourself : any car is a potential deadly weapon… especially with a dead driver on the wheels.

That this agent was dragged by the car in the past and injured, is certainly not an excuse but likely factored in his action

So the guy had already a history of bad encounter with a car but first chance he had, he runs towards a SUV like a braindead bull ?

the woman was very clearly engaged in an attempt to interfere with law enforcement activity

Nope. She was in her car. About to leave the scene. Politely let some ICE trucks to engage. And maybe if she hadn’t had that road courtesy, she would still be alive. Ooh, yeah, bad girl, she was teasing the alpha males…Tiny dicks who couldn’t stand to be called big boys… It’s not law enforcement, it’s a bunch of pussies dressed up like modern day gestapo, having cheese sticks hard-ons acting like cheap warriors.
 
But I understand you : fuck the 1st Amendment !

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 21:01 utc | 550

The vehicle slowly pulled forward, AND RIGHT, away from the pig at front left. The vehicle did not lurch forward as ‘tires spinning’ would have caused.If you have evidence of ‘tires spinning’, please post it.  
Posted by: somebs | Jan 10 2026 20:55 utc | 551
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You kind of disqualify yourself by referring ICE agents as pigs.
 
Tires spinning does not cause a vehicle to lurch. Tires spinning means there is no traction and the vehicle probably goes nowhere until the driver takes foot of pedal and gives gas much more slowly. Guess maybe you don’t know how to drive, or you live in a warm climate.
You clearly have not watched all of the available videos carefully. There was one agent standing to the left of the car, and another one standing right in front of the car. The only acceptable actions were for Good to either do nothing until she was sure she understood agents’ instructions, or maybe to reverse. Going forward was not an option unless she intended to try to run over or otherwise neutralize the agent standing right in front of her car.
In one slowed-down video one can see the left tire spinning on the ice. Good must have stomped her foot on the gas hard but the street was icy and there was no traction.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 21:10 utc | 551

An Elegy For My Neighbor, Renee Nicole Good
 
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a69957102/elegy-for-renee-nicole-good/
 
‘…Neighbor, you should be alive. Neighbor, you should have risen into another good morning with your wife. Neighbor, you should have made it home to your child, to the bright warmth of his laughter, but our country is at war with its people, and your goodness makes you an enemy, a citizen insurgent. Renee, like I’m sure you often did, I’m thinking about the children…’
 
Fellow poet Danez Smith memorializes the Minneapolis mother’s call to witness.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 10 2026 21:10 utc | 552

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 20:58 utc | 552

Well, Jane, if you’re a Yank, you have a very reductive notion of the 1st Amendment.
 
First Amendment : Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
So Jane, prove us with material evidence that Renee Good, her partner or any individual standing in the street, watching, filming or verbally protesting against the ICE agents were interfering in any way with their operations.
 
In fact, all video show it was mostly ice and snow that were interfering in the progress of their “operations”.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 21:13 utc | 553

Jane @ 554
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I agree with Paul Craig Roberts:
https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-true-story-of-the-ice-shooting-in-minneapolis/

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 21:14 utc | 554

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 21:10 utc | 554
 
“In one slowed-down video one can see the left tire spinning on the ice”
One might question why you did not post the video link….
 
“You kind of disqualify yourself by referring ICE agents as pigs.”
Why? Exactly how does this ‘disqualify’ one? Does tone change fact?

Posted by: fuj | Jan 10 2026 21:15 utc | 555

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 21:10 utc | 554
No point arguing with him. He will say whatever to justify lawlessness regardless of any fact.
 
 It’s the modern fake lefty, they are all like 5 year old spoiled bratty children.
 
 They believe they have the right to do whatever they want  whenever they want and anyone who disagrees is wrong. No fact will matter to them, they operate by emotion not thought.
 

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 21:34 utc | 556

“No point arguing with him.”
 
Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 21:34 utc | 559
 
The self soothing cop-out of those who have no argument to support their assertions….

Posted by: hgr | Jan 10 2026 21:37 utc | 557

tl;dr
but here’s some more to read:
https://thebaffler.com/latest/near-and-present-anarchy-zakin 

Posted by: Rwood | Jan 10 2026 21:39 utc | 558

DH: Trump Just Broke
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K55MywG6u0
 
“Russia unleashes Oreshnik, Venezuela claps back| with Greg Stoker and Elina Xenophontos.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 10 2026 21:44 utc | 559

No point arguing with him. 
Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 21:34 utc | 559

On that we agree : there’s no point arguing with you fascist sickos.
 
Still, there’s something as enjoyable as it is informative to see you unable to extricate yourselves from your crass contradictions : you Trump-pets were fiercely defending the first Amendment, your freedom of speech, to say anything ya want to anyone’s face, the exact same one you deny Mrs Good or any “Leftist” when they don’t want to be like you, passive spectators or coward accomplices of inhumane treatments, violences and raids against immigrants chased like Jews in Nazi Germany.
 
In the end, rest assured, I do not give a micro shit. I’m just enjoying to see the first dumbocracy of the world morally declining : the American dream is dead, long live the American nightmare !

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 22:09 utc | 560

They believe they have the right to do whatever they want  whenever they want and anyone who disagrees is wrong. No fact will matter to them, they operate by emotion not thought. 
Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 21:34 utc | 559

The same old right wingy whiny boo-hoo…

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 22:13 utc | 561

“You kind of disqualify yourself by referring ICE agents as pigs.”Why? Exactly how does this ‘disqualify’ one? Does tone change fact?
Posted by: fuj | Jan 10 2026 21:15 utc | 558
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Because it shows your bias from the get-go.
You don’t give a s— if agents are harassed and insulted and threatened and have objects thrown at them. To you they are not people, they are . . . . pigs.
 
As for videos, go and look for them yourself.They are all over the place.
Tired of self-righteous, ignorant oinkings.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 22:14 utc | 562

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 22:14 utc | 565
Tired of self-righteous, ignorant oinkings.
 
Yet you persist. Odd.
You don’t give a s— if agents are harassed and insulted and threatened and have objects thrown at them. To you they are not people, they are . . . . pigs.
Assumption, not in evidence. They are ‘pigs’ in their manner of interaction. IMO Frightened cowards with guns, badges, hyper-egos and a de-facto licence to kill, at least for vast majority I have seen or interacted with. Do you think their behaviour in the videos was appropriate? Calm and rational? Or hyper aggressive and confrontational? Brave? Cowardly?
As for videos, go and look for them yourself.They are all over the place.
I have. I want to see the one that backs your assertion directly. Will you link it? Obviously it would not be hard to do so if “They are all over the place”. 
 

Posted by: fuj | Jan 10 2026 22:38 utc | 563

It seems that Jane who may not even be a woman and the other cowards that back her elitist American fluffy Trump views takes the line:

“She was raped because she asked for it”.

Classic ‘blame the victim, not the obvious perpetrator of a heinous crime’.

Weak, gutless egotistical rationalisation like Donny the Epstein boy, and total subservience to King Donald from Jane.

It’s been obvious for a long time.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 10 2026 22:40 utc | 564

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 22:14 utc | 565

Aren’t you right now “operating by emotions”, as Archetypex accused his detractors to be doing ?
 
The way we’re calling the ICE agents here, wether it’s pigs or apes (I for one think it’s more of an insult for the pigs and apes than for the agents) is irrelevant.
 
Renee Good and her partner called one of them “big boy”, not pig or ape. They didn’t throw anything at him. And all the videos taken from every possible angles show that it’s him who made a tremendous effort of throwing himself in front of her vehicle and that she was a good enough driver to avoid him.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 22:41 utc | 565

How short memories can be when polluted by the MSM…
 
.. his name was Gonzalo Lira.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 22:43 utc | 566

His name was Michael Hastings.
 
His name was Seth Rich.
 
His name was Vince Foster.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jan 10 2026 22:45 utc | 567

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 20:11 utc | 535
It seems Krainer got his list from here https://www.coreysdigs.com/u-s/laundering-with-immunity-the-control-framework-part-1/ 
There is no mention of BIS or WTO in the Presidential Memorandum of J6 (maybe later…):
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-states-from-international-organizations-conventions-and-treaties-that-are-contrary-to-the-interests-of-the-united-states/
So Krainer is perhaps being a bit sloppy in his research and conclusions.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 22:49 utc | 568

In fact, all video show it was mostly ice and snow that were interfering in the progress of their “operations”.
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 21:13 utc | 556
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Yet more willfully ignorant oinkings.
You owe it to yourself to get out there on the internet and find the relevant videos.
It is really crazy here how many people here at MOA, of all places, are willing acolytes of the MSM when the narrative reinforces their ideologies, bias, stereotypes, and outright hatreds. Unfortunately the evidence points in the opposite direction. Go find it.
“In fact, all video show it was mostly ice and snow that were interfering in the progress of their “operations”.
What idiocy. Scare quos don’t impress anyone.
No. Jeez, where do you live. Love the way people like Pignouf can’t be bothered to post any videos while acting all sanctimonious, and also the way he/she wriggles out of having called another human being a pig.
The officer did not try to throw himself in front of the vehicle. Rebekah Good said “Drive, Baby, Drive,” to Renee, and you can see Renee wrenching the wheel suddenly to her right as she stepped on the gas. That is not calm, sensible behavior on the part of either woman and especially, the driver, when someone is in front of your vehicle. The officer’s video registers an audible thud when she hits him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwwgUiNVSmc
 

Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 23:04 utc | 569

It might do people good to try and stop thinking of “end of empire” as a metaphor and start thinking of it as a real process with concrete impacts upon the world.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 9 2026 15:41 utc | 69
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Interesting that you mention this.
Interesting to me because, contrary to your usual “TDS” disparagements, I actually voted for Trump, rather than the babbling bobblehead.
 
Why? Not because I agree—at all—with most/any of his stated policies. Nor because I thought he would improve things for us.
 
No, I voted for him solely because I though that he might be the one to hasten the downfall of our Empire, by making egregiously wrong decisions.
 
Now I’m not sure he’s even competent enough to fulfill that function. It’s like he’s so wrong, he’s not even wrong.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 10 2026 23:09 utc | 570

The only message voting Democrat would send is that one is a fool.  Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 9 2026 16:53 utc | 134
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When will you get it through your somewhat thick skull that just because a lot of us here disparage Trump, see his policies as misguided, counterproductive or worse, does not mean that we conversely believe that the Democrats are the angels poised to rectify all his wrongs? That the Dems aren’t just as warlike, if not moreso, than their Repugnocratic counterparts?
 
Yes, we get it that the two parties are but opposite sides of the same coin. That there exists a continuity of policy no matter whether the occupant of the White House (or the majority of Congress) is a “D” or an “R”. We understand it, so you can stop beating that particular drum.
 
I’ll take Rand Paul or Thomas Massie over Adam Schiff or Nancy Pelosi any day. But at the same time I’d much prefer Elizabeth Warren over Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 10 2026 23:19 utc | 571

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 22:09 utc | 563
You and the troll hgr and the rest  don’t give a damn about freedom of speech or any law,  you only care about abusing and twisting these concepts to get what you want, the ability for lawless actors you support to escape any consequences and be able to operate with no legal hindrance.
 
 Your follow up posts contain nothing but bullshit and misrepresentations.
 
 God forbid people like you ever fully get what you want!
 America certainly isn’t perfect but you morons would make it a hellscape even worse for the world than it can be now.

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 23:23 utc | 572

This Red Team vs Blue Team death match is getting very tedious.
No viable third party exists, or is likely to be allowed. Here in the UK we often have at least one third party which we can use as a stick with which to beat the red-blue tag team of misery.
Perhaps the mid-terms might be more entertaining if peeps just voted against the incumbent (obviously not if your incumbent happens to be one of the very few competent representatives and not totally corrupt).
Too many senators and congressmen are sitting fat,dumb and happy in safe seats, relying on tribal voters to return them for decades on end. Who would like to see system warpigs like Lindsey Graham or Dick Blumenthal defenestrated?
Easy. Vote for the nest most likely to win – either on a primary, if one happens, or by holding  your nose and just this once voting for the other side. You could try abstaining but that is less effective.
Either way the benefits could easily outweigh the costs if it removes the most venal and corrupted from office.
Just a suggestion.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 10 2026 23:33 utc | 573

What good is a third party if the duopoly counts the votes?
 
3rd parties, IMO, are an excellent way to divert and waste the energy of people who sincerely want change and are capable of critical thinking.
 
Critical thinking to a point. The system is constructed against a 3rd party. If I were architecting a paradigm to preserve my power, I would have elections. Constantly. Anyone can run, but ultimately, only I decide who can win.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 10 2026 23:37 utc | 574

The officer’s video registers an audible thud when she hits him.
Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 23:04 utc | 572

 
I saw that. And other videos from other angles.
 
I will repeat myself again. No emotions, just facts :
 
The ICE agent is filming with his phone, not his bodycam. He walks past Renee Good’s partner who is also filming him, calling him “big boy”, then goes around from the passenger side to the driver side where Good sits. At that moment, things accelerate and happen within 2 to 3 seconds : the car starts to move to the right, and since he had his phone in his hand, he had to put it back to wherever he puts it (or in his other hand) and that’s when we see the camera shaking and we hear the noise that sounds like a thud, it’s actually the phone being quickly manipulated for him to reach his gun.
 
On that video, we can see that he starts to draw his weapon while the car had already started to move away from him.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 23:38 utc | 575

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 23:23 utc | 575
“You and the troll hgr and the rest  don’t give a damn about freedom of speech or any law,  you only care about abusing and twisting these concepts to get what you want, the ability for lawless actors you support to escape any consequences and be able to operate with no legal hindrance.
LOL. Feel better? Let it all out. I can her the spittle hitting the screen.
Man your life must be seriously empty to get so unhinged about this. Show me on the doll where the Liberal touched you.
Seriously, take a walk and breath some fresh air.
Maybe meditate on why you are so invested. Seems strange.
 

Posted by: tgv | Jan 10 2026 23:41 utc | 576

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 10 2026 23:23 utc | 575

So many emotions in your comment, dude… Chill.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 10 2026 23:43 utc | 577

To fully understand the present, You have to know about the past. Trump is just following an old plan, in fact most world events were planned out a long time ago, but are shrouded in theater . 
 
Technate of North America: 
https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/

Posted by: The Painter | Jan 10 2026 23:48 utc | 578

That is not calm, sensible behavior on the part of either woman and especially, the driver, when someone is in front of your vehicle.  Posted by: Jane | Jan 10 2026 23:04 utc | 572

Oh geez, this is what I call “sanctimonious”.
 
I really would like to see how you, “Lady”, would behave surrounded by masked and heavily armed men, shouting, screaming contradictory orders, grabbing your door and trying to open it, probably with your dog barking on the backseat.
 
It was up to these stupid brutes to behave calmly and give her clear instructions. They’re just incompetent, untrained bullies.
 
And he called her “stupid bitch” just after he exploded her face with three bullets… Tell me, Jane, if your damned God will approve that.
 

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 11 2026 0:10 utc | 579

ICE filled a plane tonight with illegal scumbags headed to jail and deportation.
 Protests in MN crushed after they started to destroy property.
 
 Pump it up ICE!

Posted by: Archetypex | Jan 11 2026 0:23 utc | 580

@Jane #548
The verbal abuse, unless it included actual threats, is not why she is dead. They are the reason why she was in that situation, hence are a critical factor but critical factors are only enablers.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 11 2026 1:27 utc | 581

@somebs #551
None of the videos which show the outside situation have useful sound, but there are plenty of videos showing the car tires from the rear left side, right before she squeals out and gets shot in the process.
At 25:20 in this video – there is a zoom where you can see the woman back up a bit, then accelerate.
Again, note I am not saying the she was deliberately trying to hit the ICE agent in front of her. I don’t believe she was. But nobody is a mind reader, and you can clearly see the acceleration where the SUV’s tires spin on the icy ground even as she turns the wheels to avoid the ICE agent.
But here’s the thing: the ICE agent could not possibly see the SUV being steered away from him. All he can see is the SUV accelerating and hear the tires squealing as she accelerated.
The sad fact is that the above is sufficient provenance for the ICE agent to feel threatened by a deadly weapon ie the SUV.
The woman’s mistake was in pulling away from the ICE agents when told to stop, even with one in front of her blocked her from leaving.
This is what I mean by the woman, being in a very dangerous situation, without understanding just how much danger she was in.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 11 2026 1:40 utc | 582

@xiao pignouf  #553
It doesn’t matter that he was not in front of the car when he shot. 
All that matters is that he feels threatened when he was in front of the car. And he was clearly in front of the car when the woman accelerated – see the above video.
That’s what you don’t get. A law enforcement officer, that feels threatened, is empowered to shoot to protect his own life.
It would be better, in this particular situation, if the officer were willing to get hit in order to avoid accidentally killing someone, but that is not a requirement for law enforcement.
It is easy for people like you, who likely have never been in situations where their life and safety are literally under threat, to criticize the actions of someone who is in such a situation. I note yet again, that the officer in question was actually injured by a car previously.
It is also a fact that the woman was told to stop the car and get out – and that her action to try and drive away was justification for the use of force. So even her short backing up action was justification for the use of force. Not deadly force, but the point is that escalation has already occurred.
And once the woman stops reversing and shifts to drive, and turns her wheel – it is 100% clear that the car was originally pointed to the left (from the woman’s view) of the officer in front of the car and swung to point right. Meaning the car was, in fact, pointed at him for most of this process even as the car is starting to accelerate.
The last point is that a law enforcement officer does not have to be correct, in his belief that unlawful use of deadly force is threatening him. 
Do you get this? He could be wrong in his belief, but so long as a law enforcement officer has a “reasonable” belief that “unlawful” “deadly force” is directed at him, is sufficient grounds for his use of deadly force. This is why you don’t do stupid shit around law enforcement, yo.
So once again: I think it is terrible that this woman died.
But I equally think that it is extremely unlikely that the officer acted in any way, outside of his own rights and guidelines to behavior.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 11 2026 1:57 utc | 583

@ c1ue | Jan 10 2026 20:13 utc | 537
 
you mention ”the left” but you don’t mention ”the right”.. that is those folks who can’t think without a gun and figure everything has to happen right away,, and thus the need to shoot and murder.. the idea that she couldn’t be gotten later, but instead they needed to resort to murder – the proliferation of guns obviously has nothing to do with it – a right ideology – is why the world is in this ongoing ‘left/right’ divide.. oh and innocent people die needlessly and it seems like you are making lots of excuses here, along with jane…  that is what both of your commentary looks like to me.. 

Posted by: james | Jan 11 2026 2:10 utc | 584

feeling threatened… that is all that is needed… so if someone feels threatened by any number of things – just take out the gun and shoot them.. great society principles at work their… 

Posted by: james | Jan 11 2026 2:12 utc | 585

@james #587, 588
All I can say is: if you think that law enforcement should act differently – why don’t you go do that job?
It is easy to say what other people should do when they feel threatened; it is not the same thing when it happens to yourself or someone you personally know.
Furthermore, you are being far too simplistic.
I was very careful to talk about force vs deadly force – there is a difference. The woman is the one who escalated to force by failing to comply, then further escalated to deadly force by attempting to drive away and, in the process, giving an ICE agent the idea that she might run him down.
There are also differences in justification. If the woman was driving a tricycle, there would not be any reasonable threat of deadly force from the tricycle – but she was driving a 4000 to 5000+ pound vehicle. Such vehicles have been used in terrorist attacks to kill people. There were 2 such attacks just in 2025: in Mannheim, Germany and also in Vancouver.
So feeling threatened is not enough to justify law enforcement use of deadly force.
But civilians often don’t understand that the latitude for what constitutes acceptable use of deadly force is quite wide.
If you reach into your pocket – maybe you are going for a gun even if you are just trying to get your wallet or phone out. 
Equally, it is clear that the people complaining here don’t understand that said 4000 to 5000+ lb SUV is a potential deadly weapon. A plastic bag on your head, secured by tape is a deadly weapon even if the same plastic bag in your hand, is not. A shoelace around your neck, tightened, is a deadly weapon even as the same shoelace is not in your hand or in your shoe.
From my view: the naivete of civilians around law enforcement is the product of stupidity – theirs, not law enforcement’s. LE officers are not “just another guy”. They work in a profession where the chance of death or serious injury on the job is multiple orders of magnitude more than almost all civilian jobs.
Would you consider the attack dog, at fault if someone triggers the dog to bite? What about a wild animal – is the animal at fault for maiming the dumbfuck trying to take an innocent picture of it for their social media?

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 11 2026 2:28 utc | 586

@c1ue 1:40 and 1:57. Your comments may be valid and germane. I don’t want to watch any of the videos, so I can’t say one way or the other. That doesn’t explain the hindering and deliberate delay and obstruction  of medical aid to the injured person by the federal agents.

Posted by: FeJohn | Jan 11 2026 2:28 utc | 587

Well, I’m glad that b now realises just how bad Trump is. I have to admit that while I have never been so inclined to cut him slack as b, I didn’t expect him to be quite so … active in his second term either. It’s only been a year and it already feels like four. Still, Trump’s fascist views and potential and his pathological personality have always been obvious, and the fascist nature of the people around him has been so, too. When push comes to shove, I would have never wanted fascists in power, however tempting Trump’s ‘dovishness’ on Russia may have been. The Dems were horrible, too, but I could never root for Trump or advocate support for him – not even in 2016, let alone in 2024. Unfortunately, this isn’t just about Trump personally, this is about a major fascist wave in American – and Western – politics.
 
Re ‘blabbering incompetent person’ – that’s one of the least faults for a US president. If anything, given the kinds of policies they usually seek to implement, it’s better if they aren’t very skilled and successful in doing so.

Posted by: F. Foundling | Jan 11 2026 2:42 utc | 588

@ c1ue | Jan 11 2026 2:28 utc | 589
 
no disrespect for your position here c1ue, but in a society that ”weaponizes” everything, problems and misunderstandings will definitely happen.. as for the job of the police – the job comes with a risk factor 24-7, but some discernment is needed.. that is what is missing here… what it says about the larger values of the society is also ripe for speculation…   i wasn’t there.. you’re right about that…  but i see ongoing problems and a lot of excuses being made with a response that seems to add to the problems… security is a big problem and getting more police of ICE everywhere doesn’t look like a solution to me… it seems like it does for the rabid right however, which is more and more exemplified by trump and his admin.. 

Posted by: james | Jan 11 2026 2:44 utc | 589

@ FeJohn | Jan 11 2026 2:28 utc | 590 who is hinting at the potential premeditated aspect of this event….thx
 
I posit that the ICE knew all about these folks from real time information management and it was decided to make an example, eh?
 
I read all the emotion expressed but it is like thinking that killing people in boats near Venezuela is going to address Western drug problems directly….NOT
 
I see ICE as a an overreaction to the immigration problem with the intention of using that overreaction force to instantiate a military civil war between the blue/red factions with their heads up their ass in our top/bottom world.
 
Keeping emergency health care from the woman speaks volumes to the premeditation potential of this event, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 11 2026 2:56 utc | 590

feeling threatened… that is all that is needed… so if someone feels threatened by any number of things – just take out the gun and shoot them.. great society principles at work their… 
Posted by: james | Jan 11 2026 2:12 utc | 588

 
It was the leftwing agitators who pioneered the “Muh feelings!” strategy … you know, “Feel unsafe therefore violence!”
 
Don’t anyone pretend they never heard of that … none of us were born yesterday … so I for one will step forward and say that was one heck of a stupid idea, and it led us down a dark path … now we see the same thing thrown back at the activists and suddenly they don’t like it much. Well, let’s all agree to be better than that and not go there again. It requires a tiny bit of contrition from the ones who started it, dunnit?

Posted by: Tel | Jan 11 2026 2:57 utc | 591

@  Tel | Jan 11 2026 2:57 utc | 594
 
everyone with a gun in the usa is a  bad idea too.. weaponizing everything is also a   bad idea… lots of  bad ideas to go around… 

Posted by: james | Jan 11 2026 3:04 utc | 592

@ psychohistorian 2:56
Re a possible motivation to make an example of someone, I don’t know. If such intent were a factor, the shooting would be sufficient for achieving  purpose, I would think. I would prefer not to speculate further.

Posted by: FeJohn | Jan 11 2026 3:11 utc | 593

@ james | Jan 11 2026 3:04 utc | 595 with the callout of bad ideas…thx
 
Might-makes-right is one of those bad ideas that Trump is still using and that use by him makes ok for others to emulate……sad but true unfortunately
 
I have been thinking about this and the might-makes-right is for those that made it out of grade school without learning how to share….they have to protect their private property of spaceship earth for themselves and their inheritors.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 11 2026 3:15 utc | 594

The crew still trying to stand up for murderer in uniforms, when they murder leftists, forget that explaining at length that she was a leftist is an explanation at length that it was a premeditated murder. 
Another set of liars wants to pretend to high-minded realism about how self-defense by cops of every sort. First, even in this case, that explains zero about blocking medical attention for the woman. That betrays their murderous intentions. And it exposes everyone of these murderers’ apologists as the scumbag liars they are. Second, it is typical to suddenly pretend that cops are just ordinary people. The truth is that when they put on that badge they are claiming to be better, braver and more honest, more heroic, than others. And that is exactly the kind of respect they demand. But live up to the obligations they supposedly accepted? Third, the question with cops—-and by the way, the warrior ethos Trump’s minion Hegseth is indoctrinating the officer corps with—is the problem they are afraid, or simply enraged that some lower class person defied them? Afraid for the lives or for their vanity?
 
 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 11 2026 3:42 utc | 595

@ c1ue 2:28 : ‘if you think that law enforcement should act differently – why don’t you go do that job?’
 
This is a bogus argument that should never be used. Obviously we are entitled to have views on the way people do their jobs in that they affect us – especially when that is a matter of our life and death. We aren’t obliged to take their jobs upon ourselves in order to have the right to do so – obviously we can’t take every job in society. This applies to plumbers, to doctors, to politicians, and yes, to policemen and soldiers, too. This kind of argument can be used to defend any abuse of power – ‘How dare you criticise the way the Fuehrer governs our country, do you know how hard it is, you have never been in his shoes.’ Pathetic.
 
‘LE officers are not “just another guy”. They work in a profession where the chance of death or serious injury on the job is multiple orders of magnitude more than almost all civilian jobs.’
 
It’s the job of LE officers to assess adequately how great the likelihood of threat to them really is in each situation. If they are too cowardly and paranoid to do so adequately, they shouldn’t be LE officers. Yes, LE officers aren’t ‘just another guy’ – because they are supposed to be *braver* and *more* cool-headed than other guys, not less so, as you would have it. It is a LE officer’s job and duty to take the risk of being killed rather than kill innocent people for no good reason, just as it is a soldier’s job and duty to take the risk of being killed rather than kill all civilians in the vicinity ‘just in case’. After all, the very nature of law enforcement is sacrificing your own safety for the sake of the safety of civilians, not protecting your own safety at all costs. A policeman or soldier is already armed and trained and thereby has an advantage over the overwhelming majority of civilians; that advantage comes with a greater responsibility, not with a carte blanche. 
 
In this case, that woman clearly wasn’t a likely threat. She was much more likely to be trying to escape than to be some loony terrorist trying to kill people with her car – a far rarer occurrence. Even to the extent that she put him in some danger, he just needed to move away slightly – as he did – to avoid that danger, and shooting her was neither necessary nor even conducive to his safety in any way. It seems quite likely that he didn’t kill her because he was afraid of her and that he instead killed her just because he wanted to prevent her from escaping. And he had no legal right to do that.

Posted by: F. Foundling | Jan 11 2026 3:51 utc | 596

@ psychohistorian | Jan 11 2026 3:15 utc | 597
 
thanks pscyho…. yes, ‘might makes right’ is another bad idea, especially when it’s  been embraced by the usa foreign policy department since ww2, maybe before…
 
here is a bigger issue to ponder for everyone… accountability.. this is what i’ve noticed for a long time with the usa actions on the world stage – no accountability… the same applies to many other countries, corporations and people’s actions and etc. etc as well…this is an even bigger consideration for those who identify as LEFT or RIGHT – try some accountability, regardless of which side you think you are on, instead of blaming the other side… choose accountability instead… make your words, actions and decisions accountable to yourself and others, as opposed to blaming others for them.. that is what i’d really like to see from everyone.. without that all the judgement towards others is missing this key consideration or ingredient..

Posted by: james | Jan 11 2026 4:06 utc | 597

Trump
‘We need at least 1.5T defense budget to ensure our safety in this turbulent world’ [sic]
 
 
Why is this world so turbulent Donald ?
 
 
To Trump tards out there,
 
 
Its the MIC stupid !
 
 
 

Posted by: denk | Jan 11 2026 4:07 utc | 598

Mr Fish, easily the best political cartoonist in the USA, is a cashier at a Trader Joe’s.  That’s how much his work is appreciated.
Posted by: malenkov | Jan 10 2026 18:48 utc | 514
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Thank you for the info !

Posted by: denk | Jan 11 2026 4:11 utc | 599

Weak, gutless egotistical rationalisation like Donny the Epstein boy, and total subservience to King Donald from Jane.
It’s been obvious for a long time.
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 10 2026 22:40 utc |
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Normally you are not this full of shit.
Some kind of syndrome kicking in, I guess.

Posted by: Jane | Jan 11 2026 4:17 utc | 600

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