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January 15, 2026
Iran – Trump Chickened Out

Yesterday U.S. President Donald Trump was ready and willing to bomb Iran. The most important target would have been the Supreme Leader, Ajatollah Khamenei.

But Iran was ready and Khamenei safe. The U.S. military, in contrast, was not ready to defend against the inevitable retaliation that would have come out of Iran. There are only three destroyers with air-defenses in the area that could offer  protection against a ballistic missile onslaught. A few minutes after the first strikes their arsenals would have been empty.

Before the last bombing of Iran THAAD and Patriot air defenses from the U.S. and South Korea had been flown to the Middle East. A U.S. carrier group was stationed nearby and U.S. bases had been depopulated. The military was able to provide Trump with somewhat reasonable options.

U.S. allies, most importantly Israel but also some Gulf countries, were fully on board.

This round was way different.

The military was unable to give any good options for strikes. It had to ask Trump to stand down.

The Gulf countries were anxious and did not want to be part of a campaign:

“Bombing Iran goes against the calculus and interests of the Arab Gulf States,” said Bader al-Saif, an assistant history professor at Kuwait University. “Neutralizing the current regime, whether through regime change or internal leadership reconfiguration, can potentially translate into the unparalleled hegemony of Israel, which won’t serve the Gulf States.”

Even Israel suggested to wait until the ‘regime’ breaks down.

That is not going to happen.

The internal configuration of the Islamic Republic has made ‘regime change’ nearly impossible. A majority of the country and the security forces support the country’s political structure. No bunch of paid terrorists, who shoot at random people as well as security forces, can break that connection.

In consequence, at least for now, Trump chickened out.

 

Comments

james @305: “meanwhile trumps ”its about the drugs coming in from venezuela” – any other tobias coles at moa believe that bullshit still?”
 
 
Trump doesn’t even believe that bullshit. He made promises to get a political coalition together and one of those promises was to “deliver Maduro”, which was a promise he fulfilled literally (bet Rubio was expecting regime change when he asked for that), and that required some theater to put in motion.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 21:45 utc | 301

Saudi will not let US use it’s territory to launch an attack on Iran.
Us is bringing an carrier group from Asia from which to attack.
So delay in rhetoric/or US attack

Posted by: Bingo | Jan 15 2026 21:47 utc | 302

“To certain barflies here breathlessly predicting imminent doom:” ”No, Israel is not about to be destroyed.Neither is Iran.” “You can stop masturbating over that particular image.”
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 20:58 utc | 288
 
 
Of course one of them will cease to exist.
Agreed, maybe not this month or year.  Maybe a few more years.
 
Light and dark cannot co-exist.   You have one or the other.
 
 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 21:47 utc | 303

Posted by: Bingo | Jan 15 2026 21:47 utc | 311
 
With respect,  Saudi, Turkey, Qatar, Oman… are fiddlesticks to US.
We heard sane thing about Iraq

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 21:50 utc | 304

Brian Berletic : US/Iran
 
https://x.com/BrianJBerletic/status/2011622996784668820
 
“…It’s not ‘if’ but when the next US attack comes…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 15 2026 21:55 utc | 305

@ William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 21:45 utc | 310
 
that may be true, but it doesn’t change the maga nuts who believe his every bullshit word…  but yeah – kidnapping foreign leaders, murdering people on fishing boats and etc. etc. – all goes with the american fuhrer and his ‘might makes right’ ideology, doesn’t it? 

Posted by: james | Jan 15 2026 21:55 utc | 306

Alexander Mercouris says Moscow has stepped into the Iran conflict, although I have not had time to listen to the video yet so not certain what that means. It’s getting close to a collective of countries going for the neck of the USrael and that would certainly not be a bad thing.  As we have seen before, a lot of speculation has been paraded on these pages and everywhere else which always gives the one that plays his cacophonist Trumpet the loudest all the power. But its an illusion. Stop giving Trump all the power I repeat, he is nothing but an old and deluded narcissistic puffer fish.  Times have changed, and time for the US and the war criminal Netanyahu to back off, otherwise they are going to get seriously clobbered. I repeat, that would not be a a bad thing. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 15 2026 21:56 utc | 307

@ Bingo | Jan 15 2026 21:47 utc | 311
 
ksa will go to the highest bidder.. its all about the money.. they have no ethics or morals, or i’ll be a dead kashoggi.. 

Posted by: james | Jan 15 2026 21:57 utc | 308

The Wotan and the BRICS faced off against each other, pawed the dust under hoof, waved horns, bared teeth. Feinted lunges at each other. Eyes met. And then the Wotan turned away. The turn became a sidle. The sidle became a mincing trot, shedding self respect with every stride. Finally an ear-flattened canter to safety in exile and isolation. The BRICS then turned to the waiting herd of females…

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jan 15 2026 22:03 utc | 309

…..A separate Gulf official said the message delivered to Tehran was equally blunt, warning that any attack on US facilities in the Gulf would carry consequences for Iran’s relations with neighboring countries…..
 
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 15 2026 21:39 utc | 307
 
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Funny. Persia is ancient. Many of the Arab regimes aren’t even 100 years old.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 22:04 utc | 310

When he started talking about the protests settling down in Iran last night I suspected this was on the way.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 15 2026 22:09 utc | 311

The fact of the matter is that Russia and China have always “complicated” things for Iran response wise.
Iran always takes its Allie’s into consideration.
Iran went and saw 2 people.  Lebanon, to meet with Berri (Hezbollah in realty) and went to Oman.
 
Russia sent top man, Shogui to Iran.  Iran did not fly to Russia.  Iran didn’t send anyone to China.
 
Now that Aytollah message is crystal clear.  No more games.  This latest assault via USReal is an existential threat now.
What did u do Russia?  When staring down an existential threat?… You invaded and got the first shots in.  Stopped it in its tracks.  And you sit there and tell Iran to observe international law & political means? 
Think Iran (Ayatollah specifically) suggested they either support him all the way,  or get out of their way.  The “political & economic” considerations are finished.  Iran will not do an ego-stroke-strike to keep Donny on side and “war at bay”.
 
Obviously Junes decapitation & regime change gambit failed.
But here they are, 7 months later, at it again.
Existential threat indeed.
Iran is treating it that way. They won’t be taking their hands of their triggers for quite some time.
Here, they helped themselves, but also, gave Trump a political win (to Americans) last time… but look what they did with that cooperation…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 22:11 utc | 312

I see people write that Iran would have targeted American bases in the Arab countries, but would that not entail declaring war on the Arab countries?
Posted by: Afro | Jan 15 2026 20:32 utc | 264
 
After the genocide in Gaza the Arab satraps are not keen to be seen by their population to side overtly with either the US or Israel. 
Especially if those countries are seen as the aggressors attacking a Resistance country, and Iran limits its response to American or Israeli facilities in those countries.
 
 

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 15 2026 22:13 utc | 313

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 15 2026 21:56 utc | 316
 
Yes, Mercouris always glorifies Russia, particularly Putin and his “sway”.  But frankly, even though Putin may have some excellent relations with the varying Presidents and Prime Ministers.
 
The Ayatollah’s relationship with Putin is much different.
 
Frankly,  China has the purse strings for both nations.  Guessing if Iran listening at all,  it’s to China,  and China has much more serious interests in that region, understands the threat, and will support Irans guarded stance and red line.
 
As for the Arab nation states in the region, Iran has called repeatedly for ejection of US and cohesive Muslim policies.
 
The Arab world has been at war with Iran for over 49 years.  They’ll never come on side.  Most like EU,  won’t even do wants best in their national interests. So,  they may stay out of the way, but if US orders Saudi Head-choppers to head into Iran,  they’ll do it.   They want the Persians dead too.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 22:24 utc | 314

The Grayzone Live: ‘With You In The Field’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaZDnwxIZGo
 
“Max Blumenthal discusses the chaos gripping Iran wiht Ali Alizadeh of Jedaal, uncovering the reality behind Iran’s protests cheered from Western capitals…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 15 2026 22:26 utc | 315

Iran has everyone in the region by the balls. Shutting down the Strait of Hormuz would wreck the global energy market quickly.
 
They don’t need to attack American vassals. 
 
When Muad’dib confronted the Emperor at the end of Dune, he had positioned water above major spice fields, which would have killed the worms, destroying interstellar travel and consigning trillions to death.
 
“The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it.”
 
Iran never needed nukes to blow up the world. They just have to shut down the Strait.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 22:37 utc | 316

Anyone reading/considering these posts re: the “Iranian diaspora”: @33, @97, @197, and @297
 
Ought to read this post:
 
Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 15:49 utc | 38

Posted by: FollowsTheWay | Jan 15 2026 22:37 utc | 317

If you insist, Google “US selling Venezuelan oil” and you can find literally hundreds of articles.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 15 2026 23:03 utc | 318

🥴🥴🥴
no come on, the Narrative merchants have lost the plot surely :
 

@SprinterPress
1h

Sprinter Press

 
 

@SprinterPress
1h

The end times have come: Israel asks Trump not to attack Iran Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed the President of the United States, Donald Trump, on January 14 with a request to postpone any plans to attack Iran, according to New York Times sources. On Wednesday, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu asked US President Trump to delay all plans for a US military attack on Iran, fearing that Iranian retaliation could be directed at Israel. Netanyahu’s request comes amid concerns that Israel has not yet sufficiently replenished its stock of interceptor missiles for air defense. In an interview with NBC, US President Trump refused to say whether he would attack Iran, saying: “I won’t tell you.” He also said he saved many lives yesterday.

Jan 15, 2026 · 9:23 PM UTC

The end times have come: Israel asks Trump not to attack Iran Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed the President of the United States, Donald Trump, on January 14 with a request to postpone any plans to attack Iran, according to New York Times sources. On Wednesday, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu asked US President Trump to delay all plans for a US military attack on Iran, fearing that Iranian retaliation could be directed at Israel. Netanyahu’s request comes amid concerns that Israel has not yet sufficiently replenished its stock of interceptor missiles for air defense. In an interview with NBC, US President Trump refused to say whether he would attack Iran, saying: “I won’t tell you.” He also said he saved many lives yesterday.

Jan 15, 2026 · 9:23 PM UTC

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 15 2026 23:05 utc | 319

Sorry for double paste. But … wtf? 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 15 2026 23:06 utc | 320

Carriers are juicy targets for anyone reasonably equipped nowadays. (It would have to stay around Diego Garcia to have some sort of protection).

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 15 2026 19:28 utc | 210

Thank you. And not even nowadays:  Multiple U.S. carriers (especially early in the Pacific War) were sunk or crippled by conventional bombs and torpedoes from Japanese aircraft or submarines—these include carriers lost at Coral Sea, Midway, and other battles before the large-scale kamikaze campaign began. 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:14 utc | 321

American stock market option expiration this Friday.  Any action is going to occur after that.

Posted by: ramAustralia | Jan 15 2026 23:15 utc | 322

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 21:45 utc | 310
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You’re OK, dude.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 23:16 utc | 323

Iranians have a perfect opportunity to destroy UAE/Zionists assets on Socotra Island as the main instigators.
 
+ Doing a solid to both Ansar Allah and Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 15 2026 23:17 utc | 324

Tannhouser @ 7 and elsewhere:
 
You need to speak to quite a few people in the Iranian community. One person who happens to express a deranged opinion that Iranians prefer to be bombed rather than be governed by mullahs or whatever other occupational group she dislikes isn’t representative of the whole community where you live.
 
I’ve met a few Brazilians here in Sydney – we have a small and growing community of Brazilians – and they all had varying opinions of the current government under President Lula da Silva. One guy (happened to be a work colleague) turned out to be a Jair Bolsonaro fanatic who absolutely refused to hear or see anything less than glowing praise of that fellow. After being on the receiving end of a couple of rants about how Lula da Silva was leading Brazil into socialist ruin, I took care not to mention Brazilian politics to this guy again!

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 15 2026 23:18 utc | 325

My guess is that something will happen this weekend. There are too many pieces moving at this point for the whole process to do a 180.
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 15 2026 14:58 utc | 4

NYT today: President Trump said this morning that he might use the Insurrection Act to deploy troops to Minneapolis. His comments came a day after a second person in the city was shot by a federal agent, fueling clashes between demonstrators and law enforcement.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:18 utc | 326

Iran needs a nuclear weapon and if Khamenei won’t or can’t withdraw his and Khomeini’s fatwas against nuclear weapons, he can still find a loophole: maybe Iran can’t develop nuclear weapons, but it could buy them from, say, North Korea?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jan 15 2026 17:13 utc | 101

I don’t like this trivialization of nukes one bit – so, amazingly, Khamanei and I have something in common. And the fatwa is also against acquisition of nukes: A fatwa by Khamanei is against the acquisition, development and use of nukes dates back to the mid-1990s (wiki).

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:22 utc | 327

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 22:24 utc | 323
 
I totally disagree with you view that “Mercouris always glorifies Russia”. That is your meme you are choosing to use in an attempt to make him look biased, but you are welcome to have that opinion. Mercouris simply gives Putin credit for his competence and capacity as a leader in his own country and throughout the world with BRICS and SCO and many other places he manages to connect with . I would say therefore that Mercouris and the Duran and the many others they discuss these issues with on there panels are realists that actually give Putin an opportunity to be taken seriously rather than dismissed as is the usual case for much of the biased Western media. 
 
I would also say that you have no better authority on these pages than anyone else in terms of knowing what Putin’s current relationship with Iran is since he is sensible enough as a leader not to run to the microphone and shower the world with nonsensical bravado like Trump and the Americans do and plays his cards very close to his chest maintaining a poker face. Xi Jinping is no different.  What do you even know they are discussing together? 
 
I would also claim that you are wrong in where the Arab states lie in terms of their relationship with Iran. I would not base that on the last 49 years of behaviour since we have not seen for a very long time the kind of geopolitical shifts in the region as the world transits away from US/ Israeli dominance to wanting to form a more stable multipolar alignment that will finally destroy US/Israeli bullying and its arrogant seeking to have it all their own ways. This seismic shift is moving very fast now for those people perceptive enough to see it.
 
China’s history with Iran goes back to the silk road, it has a major influence on Iran, but I think you should realize it now also shares a number of  close ties due to US/UK interference as well throughout the entire region with any number of countries that are aligning against the disgrace that the US and Israel have become. 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 15 2026 23:27 utc | 328

I don’t like this trivialization of nukes one bit – so, amazingly, Khamanei and I have something in common. And the fatwa is also against acquisition of nukes: A fatwa by Khamanei is against the acquisition, development and use of nukes dates back to the mid-1990s (wiki).
Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:22 utc | 335
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Thank you for that.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 23:30 utc | 329

For those diehard Maga Trump still enamoured by the mad fat fool–Mussolini Lite ….. 
 
Versus — Releases violent murdering neo-nazi cowards onto the streets of America knocking down peoples doors disappearing people and shooting the face off non-threatening unarmed suburban mothers.
Versus — Kidnaps President Maduro, Targets Venezuelan Oil, will rebuild Venezuela’s whole infrastructure, US is going to run the country, Targets Greenland for annexation, Targets Bombing Iran, Supports Genocidal War Criminal Netanyahu and Israel, backs in fascist middle east monarchies, Ditches “America First” and declares himself interim President of Venezuela threatening to place US Troops there and everywhere. . . applying the Monroe Doctrine upon the entire world on a psychotic whim.
 
2024 election Trump promised no more regime change action, no more interfering in other counties, no more invasions of or bombing other nations, no more is the US acting as the world’s policeman, no rebuilding others infrastructure, No more running other countries. 
 

“We do not seek war, we do not seek nation building. We do not seek regime change. And we don’t want to be the world’s policeman. Those days are over. No more boots on the round. No more rebuilding other countries infrastructure.” 

Now the Neo-Nazi Trump Administration is threatening to invade and seize a NATO territory of Greenland–triggering Article 5 retaliation. While threatening to declare an INSURRECTION in MN so he can send in the US Military to shoot and kills US Patriots on the streets of Minneapolis and anywhere else where the People have NOT lost their minds.
 
Yay go the cheers of the braindead MAGA nutters. He was the guy that wasn’t going involved in that kind of shit anymore. Believing that is The Real TDS. 
 
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Oh, have you seen the big beautiful new WH Ballroom you’ll never get to stand inside of yourselves?
 

Posted by: Funny | Jan 15 2026 23:33 utc | 330

Trump wouldn’t be the first US president to have a civil war and an international conflict on his hands. Lincoln led the Union against Confederate secessionists in a brutal civil war, while also confronting foreign powers like Britain and France, who considered recognizing the Confederacy. So that’s the first manifestation of the “coalition of the willing” entertaining notions of regime change….in the US. Both nations depended heavily on Southern cotton for their textile industries but withheld full recognition to avoid a situation which would legitimize Confederate privateers and complicate cotton imports.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:34 utc | 331

@Sebgo 159
North Korea deterred aggression before by artillery tubes in hill caves pointed at Seoul, the idea being that American wouldn’t want its slave-colony’s capital to be beaten to pieces. But that was before the Shrub era, when it became obvious that American regimes had no problem attacking their own city and killing thousands of their own people to create a justification for planned wars of choice. By now any sane person can see (ISIS attack on Iraq, Nordtream II and Ukranazistan, for example) that to current American regimes their slave-colonies are completely disposable tools. Thousands of hillside artillery tubes have about as much deterrent value now as the artillery on the Maginot Line in WWII.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jan 15 2026 23:34 utc | 332

@Princess Bodica 335:
 
You imagine that Trump has backed down permanently from attacking Iran?
 
How adorable.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jan 15 2026 23:35 utc | 333

You imagine that Trump has backed down permanently from attacking Iran?
 
How adorable.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jan 15 2026 23:35 utc | 342

Wow. Next time pay attention to what people are actually saying, ok?
 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:38 utc | 334

Iran should down a few intel/recon drones and planes{AWACS) out of the region to use the air defense before it is knocked out like last time. Iran obviously needs the practice since they got totally chumped last time. Even Euro wimp Serbia did better AD. Better use that China and homegrown AD and make sure it works.
Also start deliberate piecemeal missile sniper destruction of all US/UK radars at all bases in the region as US/NATO assets are sent to the region. Show Iran is not just going to take the sucker punch decapitation like last time. Blind the radars and send a few drones and old scuddy expiring missiles to drain US/UK air defense on ships, bases. Cripple some support ships, UK stuff, keep the killing low. Take a couple wild shots at diego garcia, cyprus to remove radars. 
A slowed US/UK operation cannot be sustained. US/UK want a smash and grab after months of prep. If the getaway car has flat tires, has run low on gas from idling and the thug can’t see well from a bloody cut over the eye and they can’t get a clean run at the target it becomes a real slog not a smash and grab. Ammo /supplies/ AD missiles deplete. Ships need to rotate out, logistics get broken, delay blunts the blow while sharpening the Iran military.
Yemen did this with the military equivalent of fireworks and model airplane drones and had a good run instead of a Syria collapse. Iran getting its leadership killed again is not smart. Show enough resistance to disrupt US/UK preparation of forces and shaping of the battle field. Do some of Iran’s shaping of the battle field for a change.
Venezuela waited months and got sucker punched and folded, how many sucker punches can Iran take? The US or Izzy will do it again and again. Iran: don’t get stupider with each sanction/ ship capture/ decapitation hit. The next punch is easier with a block or dodging out of the way.
Waiting for the other guy to fire first is stupid, it already happened once. Learn your lesson Iran. The US/UK military are already moving in the region, disrupt that operation now.

Posted by: Jonny Law | Jan 15 2026 23:40 utc | 335

Remember that one time when Iran whacked the Mossad band camp in Iraqi Kurdistan?
 
Or when Iran attacked Balochistan terrorists in Pakistan and Pakistan retaliated by bombing the Balochistan terrorists in Iran?
 
How we laughed and laughed.  Good times!

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 15 2026 23:41 utc | 336

The comments thread is already very long and no doubt quite a few MoA lurkers and barflies may have already left after 300+ comments but I would like to draw readers’ attention to this article on how Mossad lures and persuades individuals (and even threatens and blackmails them) in Iran into supplying it with information to use in its destabilisation efforts.
 
Israel Secretly Recruited Iranian Dissidents to Attack Their Country From Within
 
“… In the lead-up to June’s air attacks, according to Israeli planners, they arranged for unwitting truck drivers to smuggle into Iran tons of “metallic equipment” — the parts for the weapons used by the commando teams.
 
Israeli officials said these operations reflect a fundamental shift in the Mossad’s approach that began about 15 years ago. The agents in Iran who broke into the safes, set up the machine guns, blasted the air defenses and watched the scientists’ apartments were not Israelis. All were either Iranians or citizens of third countries, according to senior Israeli officials with direct knowledge of the operations. For years, such missions in Iran had been the exclusive work of Israeli field operatives. But officials said the growing unpopularity of the Iranian regime has made it much easier to attract agents.
 
S.T. was one of them. Israeli officials said he grew up in a working-class family in a small town near Tehran. He enrolled in college and was living a seemingly ordinary student life, when he and several classmates were arrested by Iran’s feared Basij militia and taken to a detention center where they were tortured with electric shocks and brutally beaten.
 
S.T. and his friends were ultimately released, but the experience left him enraged and eager for revenge. Soon after, a relative living overseas provided his name to an Israeli spy whose job was to identify disaffected Iranians. Messages were exchanged via an encrypted phone app, and S.T. accepted a free trip to a neighboring country.
 
A case officer from the Mossad invited him to work as a covert operative against Iran. He agreed, asking only that Israel pledge to take care of his family if anything went wrong. (Iran summarily executes anyone caught spying for foreign countries, especially Israel.)
 
He was trained for months outside of Iran by Israeli weapons specialists. Just before the attack was to begin, he and his small team slipped back into the country to play their role in one of the biggest and most complex military operations in Israel’s history …
 
… One key to the spy agency’s success is the ethnic composition of Iran. Israeli officials noted in interviews that roughly 40% of the country’s population of 90 million is made up of ethnic minorities: Arabs, Azeris, Baluchis, Kurds and others.
 
Shortly before he died in 2016, [Mossad Director Meir Dagan] told us that “the best pool for recruiting agents inside Iran lies within the country’s ethnic and human mosaic. Many of them oppose the regime. Some even hate it.”
 
Present and former officials said Dagan championed the shift to relying on foreign-born agents. In the early years of the effort to penetrate Iran, the spy agency had relied mostly on Israelis, known to Mossad insiders as “blue and white” — a reference to the colors of Israel’s flag.
 
Under Dagan, the Mossad’s leadership came to believe they could find highly effective agents in Iran or among Iranian exiles and others living in one of the seven countries that border it.
 
Present and former officials said the recruits fell into two categories. Some gravitated to the realm of traditional espionage, gathering intelligence and passing it on to their handler. Others expressed a willingness to carry out violent operations, including attacks on nuclear scientists.
 
“Convincing someone to betray their country is no small feat,” said a former senior Mossad officer who oversaw units handling foreign agents. “It’s a process of gradual erosion. You start with a minor request, an insignificant task. Then another. These are trial runs. If they perform well, you assign them something larger, more meaningful. And if they refuse — well, by then you have leverage: pressure, threats, even blackmail.”
 
Spymasters, he said, try to avoid threats or coercion. “It’s better to guide them to a place where they act willingly — where they take the first step themselves,” the former officer said.
 
Not surprisingly, given the risk of summary execution, many had initial doubts.
 
 
The most critical element is trust. “Your agent must be loyal and emotionally tied to you. Like a soldier who charges forward despite the danger, trusting his comrades, so it is with agents. He goes on the mission because he trusts his handler and feels a deep sense of responsibility toward him.”
 
Most of the people who agreed to work for Israel expected payment for the risks they were taking. But the present and former officials said the driving force for people who agree to spy on their own country is often more primal.
 
“Financial reward is, of course, important,” the former Mossad officer said. “But people are also driven by emotion — hatred, love, dependence, revenge. Yet it always helps when the recruit’s motives are supported by some kind of tangible benefit: not necessarily a direct payment but some type of indirect help.”
 
 
This is how S.T. was recruited.
 
His handlers said he was consumed by hatred toward the regime and what had been done to him by the Basij militia. But what finally pushed him to cooperate was the Mossad’s offer to arrange medical treatment unavailable in Iran for a relative.
 
For decades, medical care has been one of the Mossad’s signature recruitment methods. Israeli intelligence has links with doctors and clinics in several countries, and arranging surgery and various therapies was also used to penetrate Palestinian extremist groups. It has featured even more in approaches to Iranians, in the hope of persuading them to help Israel …”
 
The way in which the US and Israel together have turned economic sanctions against Iran and the Iranian government’s authoritarian style into tools to exploit people’s grievances and turn those people into expendable tools against their country is truly beyond cynical and sickening. 

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 15 2026 23:45 utc | 337

We don’t know how well Iran has incorporated Russian air defense systems into their military structure. Certainly, in the 12 day war, air defense was a real weakness. OTOH, there is good reason to expect than Iran’s offensive missile capabilities have been strengthened. Why Israel might wish to test that premise is a complete mystery to me. 

Posted by: Rob | Jan 15 2026 23:47 utc | 338

…a coworker… from the Iranian DIASPORA… said the people of Iran  SHE would rather THEY were bombed by outside forces than continue w the present leadership. [after Tannenhouser, 15th Jan 1505 GMT]
The surprise would be if she had said anything other.

Posted by: petra | Jan 15 2026 23:48 utc | 339

james @315: “that may be true, but it doesn’t change the maga nuts who believe his every bullshit word”  
 
 
But it should change the vegetative TDS victims who believe everything the Mockingbird mass media pumps into their fragged little minds. At least that’s what I hope. 
 
 
You know how long I have been imploring people to tune out of mass media? It is decades now. It is so discouraging to see smart people still eating that swill.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 23:50 utc | 340

“(bet Rubio was expecting regime change when he asked for that)”
 – William Gruff  310

Rubio has promised his base of Cuban UROCs he will deliver their ownership of Cuba back to them by cutting off the VZ supply chain and that is still occurring.
 

may be true, but it doesn’t change the maga nuts who believe [in] kidnapping foreign leaders, murdering people on fishing boats and etc. etc
 – James  315

 
James,
 
I’m guessing you live in the Seattle or Portland area.  I say that because when tourists from those areas come to this rural town to visit they say things like that.  Outside of the “do or die GOPers” who supported Bush’s invasion and “crossed the aisle” to support Obama’s multiple invasions and color-revs that have cost millions of lives, I do not see ANY “MAGA’ folks around here celebrating VZ or the simmering Iranian conflict.  No joy at all.  Most are very disappointed with Trump’s foreign policy and say so….most are down to saying something like “well…he’s sure the hell better than Hillary“…definitely not celebrating.  And for the record, Kamala was Hillary’s pawn.
 
Just as the GOP’s characterization of Obama as a commie  hippie was a figment of their right wing imagination, urban “liberals” characterizations of MAGA is a figment of their/your delusional imagination.  I am pretty sure at this point Rubio is going to win the GOP primary and that the DNC will put a loser like Newsom in the ring to “take the fall” but…I could be wrong, maybe Hillary still has enough clout to get her cypher installed.  Tell me true James, do you really think Hillary/Obama’s foreign policy is a big improvement over Trump?
 
 
*Unassimilated residents of convenience [s]
 
 
 

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 15 2026 23:51 utc | 341

“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair…”—Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities

Posted by: hightrekker | Jan 15 2026 23:51 utc | 342

I think I know why the birth rates in western countries are cratering. It’s not only the covid jabs. It’s because couples, in the morning, instead of taking advantage of the morning wood (hallelujah!) reach for their mobile phone to check what new stupid stuff Trump and his admin have come up with.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Jan 15 2026 23:57 utc | 343

Can’t catch up to the thread but I found Mercouris interesting the last couple of shows. He is completely on side with Iran but sincerely feels that the government is slagging and not doing as good a job as they should be able too. 
EG: he says they could easily have borrowed a couple of billion from Russia or China and used it to support their currency but they didn’t.
 
In short he says the government  is incompetent.

Posted by: arby | Jan 16 2026 0:04 utc | 344

@ William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 23:50 utc | 349
 
thanks.. that is true what you say too… indeed, it is almost like there are 2 sides to this trump coin – the mega nuts, and the tds sufferers, lol… a middle path is possible here too… taking everything with a grain of salt and asking more questions  is a good starting point.. 

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2026 0:04 utc | 345

Libé (translated by DeepL):

As international condemnations multiply in response to the bloody crackdown on protests in Iran, which is said to have left thousands dead, the diplomacy of Turkey, Iran’s neighbor, has only one refrain: regional stability. The former head of intelligence—now foreign minister and a key figure in the Turkish power structure—Hakan Fidan has hammered this message home in the Turkish media. More strikingly, for the first time he has also echoed Iranian regime propaganda, claiming that the protesters were being remotely controlled by the Mossad, Israel’s intelligence services.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 0:17 utc | 346

Rob @ 347:
 
Read this:  Iran and the Price of Sovereignty: What It Takes Not to Be a Client State
 

… Israel’s  June 13th, 2025, unprovoked attack on Iran was primarily made possible by the Mossad-trained Iranian commandos inside the country. They successfully sabotaged or destroyed the Iranian air defenses prior to the Israeli attacks and made it possible for the Israeli jetfighters to roam the Iranian skies freely …

 
And this as well: Israel Secretly Recruited Iranian Dissidents to Attack Their Country From Within
 

… In the early morning hours of June 13, a commando team led by a young Iranian, S.T., settled into position on the outskirts of Tehran. The target was an anti-aircraft battery, part of the umbrella of radars and missiles set up to protect the capital and its military installations from aerial attack.
 
Across the country, teams of Israeli-trained commandos recruited from Iran and neighboring nations were preparing to attack Iranian defenses from within.
 
As described by their handlers, their motives were a mix of personal and political. Some were seeking revenge against a repressive, clerical regime that had imposed strict limits on political expression and daily life. Others were enticed by cash, the promise of medical care for family members or opportunities to attend college overseas.
 
The attack had been planned for more than a year by the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service. Just nine months earlier, the spy agency had shocked the world with its technical prowess — executing a plot hatched in 2014 by its director at the time, Tamir Pardo, that crippled Hezbollah by detonating pagers booby-trapped with tiny but lethal amounts of explosives. According to Hezbollah, the blasts killed 30 fighters and 12 civilians, including two children, and injured more than 3,500.
 
At 3 a.m. on June 13, S.T. and a foreign legion of roughly 70 commandos opened fire with drones and missiles on a carefully chosen list of anti-aircraft batteries and ballistic missile launchers. (His handlers in the Mossad would only tell us his initials.) The next day, another group of Iranians and others recruited from the region launched a second wave of attacks inside Iran.
 
In detailed interviews, 10 present and former Israeli intelligence officials described the commando raids and a wealth of previously undisclosed details of the country’s decades-long covert effort to prevent Iran from building a nuclear bomb. They requested anonymity so they could speak freely.
 
The officials said the commando attacks were pivotal in June’s airstrikes, allowing Israel’s air force to carry out wave after wave of bombing runs without losing a single plane. Informed by intelligence gathered by the Mossad’s agents on the ground, Israeli warplanes pounded nuclear facilities, destroyed around half of Iran’s 3,000 ballistic missiles and 80% of its launchers, and fired missiles at the bedrooms of Iranian nuclear scientists and military commanders.
 
As they had with the pagers, Israeli spies took advantage of their ability to penetrate their adversary’s communications systems. Early in the aerial attack, Israeli cyberwarriors sent a fake message to Iran’s top military leaders, luring them to a phantom meeting in an underground bunker that was then demolished in a precision strike. Twenty were killed, including three chiefs of staff …
 

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 16 2026 0:18 utc | 347

Will laser-based defensive weaponry be a factor in this war?

Posted by: NotPaulHollywood | Jan 16 2026 0:21 utc | 348

Re John Gilberts’ pointer to “In the Moments Before the Third World War”https://davidrovics.substack.com/p/in-the-moments-before-the-third-world-war[15th Jan, 2137 GMT]
 
The piece appears to have vanished. Any other sources…?

Posted by: petra | Jan 16 2026 0:22 utc | 349

Refinnejenna 356,
 
If Israel’s the ubermensch of the piece then how did the untermenschen of Iran beat Israel into suing for peace?  My training, [and experience], as an engineer taught me to always trust observational data when it conflict with that which has been “reported”.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 16 2026 0:26 utc | 350

“Trump declared that he was not subject to international law or, really, any law in his conduct of foreign affairs. “I don’t need international law,” he said, “I’m not looking to hurt people.” Asked if there were any limits on his power, Trump named his conscience. “Yeah, there is one thing,” he said. “My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me.” (Jamelle Bouie in NYT)

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 0:30 utc | 351

james @ 317
 
US needs a support airbase to attack Iran. In the 12 day war they used Saudi. Since the Saudi have a security agreement with the Pakistan. It specifically mentioned use of Saudi airbases.
MBS told the US not this time. So UD needs to bring up a carrier group for m Asia toale the attack. On its way now.
Brian B is right to say not if, but when
 

Posted by: Bingo | Jan 16 2026 0:31 utc | 352

DJT has his hands full with the insurrection underway in Minneapolis.
There is absolutely no need for second real crisis.
As it is he has a Governor and a Mayor of a major city in open revolt against federal authority, basically promoting a civil war against US law enforcement.
He will be tied up with this and the Greenland push for quite a while.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 0:32 utc | 353

We should not be mesmerized by this. “My own mind” and stuff. As we just saw, there are things that are stopping him and he can’t get rid of them all forever. However since he is shaky on the mind side of the equation, he is understandably shaky on the stopping side also. Therefore Trump must be stopped. 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 0:34 utc | 354

…… and made it possible for the Israeli jetfighters to roam the Iranian skies freely …
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 15 2026 23:45 utc | 346
 
Typical Zionist shite!
 
 

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 16 2026 0:34 utc | 355

When the B2’s leave Missouri, then you will know the attack is underway.
Are the Israelis prepared for a second demolition of the industrial heartland of Haifa by Iranian strategic missile forces?

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 0:39 utc | 356

I had a mini desktop exercise on Peplexity : 

U.S. Nimitz- and Ford-class aircraft carriers project unmatched power with 70-90 aircraft delivering 100+ daily sorties, protected by strike groups featuring Aegis destroyers/cruisers (100+ VLS cells with SM-6/Tomahawks), submarines, F-35s, electronic warfare, and lasers forming a 500-1,000 nm defensive bubble at 30+ knots—none have been sunk or mission-killed in combat.

Iran counters regionally in the Persian Gulf via asymmetric saturation using mobile Ghader/Hoveyzeh ASCMs, Khalij Fars/Hormuz ASBMs (300-700 km range), thousands of Shahed-136/238 drone swarms for recon/kamikaze, Kilo-class submarines with torpedoes/mines, and IRGC speedboat swarms—effective in chokepoints like the Strait of Hormuz but lacking verified blue-water reach to distant bases like Diego Garcia (~3,800-5,300 km beyond capabilities).

U.S. forces decisively counter these via stealthy F-35 over-the-horizon strikes, cyber/EW jamming of drone links, hypersonic defenses (Glide Phase Interceptor), preemptive B-21 bombers/SSGNs, and carrier-launched JDAMs/MALD decoys, ensuring operational freedom as demonstrated in recent Middle East deployments.
 
 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 0:44 utc | 357

@ Bingo | Jan 16 2026 0:31 utc | 361
 
thanks bingo.. we’ll see how this plays out…
 
 – judge on galloways show – 18 minute video from the past 1 hour and worth the watch.. a friend sent it to me…
INTERVIEW: Trump’s private army
If you get stopped for jaywalking or murder in the US, says Judge Andrew Napolitano, the officer has to give you name and badge number. These masked ICE thugs don’t have to give you anything – 
 
trumps private nazi army… i am sure it goes over well with the hard core maga nuts, but not anyone else… 

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2026 0:49 utc | 358

hey c1ue – check out the post above and let me know what you think.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2026 0:49 utc | 359

have a gig and have to leave soon.. off til tomorrow.. any james here forward – fake.. 

Posted by: james | Jan 16 2026 0:50 utc | 360

@366
 
IDK where anyone gets 100 sorties per day from a CVN.
 
In 1991 Desert Storm the US Navy carriers got off 20 loaded strike sorties a day.  The dance using elevators and restricted hangar decks is self limiting.
 
That said the carriers in Red Sea both 1990 and 2025 were protected by land based US and RAF fighters from Djibouti.
 
The need for multiple refuelings further reduce the strike sorties from a CVN.
 
Which need a thousand miles from any shore based missiles…..
 
The Houthi got pretty close and they learned a lot to share….
 
Fun to watch what USS Abe Lincoln gets.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 16 2026 0:51 utc | 361

@ Refinnejenna | Jan 16 2026 0:18 utc | 356
 
How disappointing that the ProPublica article you quote — twice — doesn’t tell us why S.T. and his friends were arrested. A crucial piece of the story is — conveniently? — missing. 

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 16 2026 0:55 utc | 362

USS Abraham Lincoln had to take extreme evasive action to avoid a Houthi missile strike, the action was so violent that an F35B was tossed overboard…….yea the missile threat on CVN’s is real……….

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 1:18 utc | 363

Iran is not going to be defeated like Saddam was defeated. In Iraq, military leaders were bought off, and Shock and Awe decimated crucial civilian infrastructure.
 
The difference now is that Iran is going to give as good as it gets. Iraq couldn’t really fight back.
There is no amount of conventional firepower that can win this, IMO.
 
Every American military engagement is about creating a reason to spend more money they don’t have on the MIC.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 16 2026 1:21 utc | 364

Certainly not standoff weapons. Without 100,000 or so boots on the ground, there is no way the US has a chance to achieve its goals.
 
It takes months and months to deploy and stage that sort of manpower.
 
This is going to be a smash-and-grab, an attempt to hurt Iran, maybe get lucky and kill someone important.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 16 2026 1:24 utc | 365

Hey b, off-topic but do a thread on the faux-annexation of Iceland suggested by Billy Long. It’s getting silly now…

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 16 2026 1:25 utc | 366

‘I had a mini desktop exercise on Peplexity : ‘ princess bodica
Just… wow! 
I had a desktop exercise,  and the Americans had Battlestars and x- wing fighters,  and photon torpedoes,  and totally wiped out the Iranian forces.   Booyah!

Posted by: Scuppers | Jan 16 2026 1:26 utc | 367

DeepSeek said this of the Perplexity scenario:

Conclusion

· Factual Claims: The description of hardware, ranges, and basic doctrine for both sides is accurate.
· Analytical Claims: The description of U.S. counters being “decisive” and “ensuring operational freedom” in a hypothetical high-end conflict is U.S. military doctrine and confidence, not an established fact. It presents one side of a complex military problem.
· The Core of the Debate: The summary perfectly frames the modern military dilemma: a high-tech, expensive, concentrated force (U.S. CSG) versus a low-tech, cheap, distributed, and saturated force (Iranian A2/AD). War games have shown both sides achieving “victory” depending on the scenario’s assumptions (rules of engagement, who strikes first, environmental conditions).
· What’s Missing: Any discussion of escalation dynamics (a conflict wouldn’t happen in a vacuum), political will, the catastrophic economic impact of a Hormuz closure, or the potential for miscalculation.

In short: The “facts” are correct, but the exercise presents a best-case, doctrinal U.S. response as a certain outcome, which is the very issue war planners and analysts constantly debate.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 1:27 utc | 368

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 1:18 utc | 372
The Houthis with their limited arsenal created extensive damage and was met with an ineffecitve response; Iran has orders of magnitude greater more weapons, resources, industrial base and control over Hormuz. 

Posted by: Deniz | Jan 16 2026 1:28 utc | 369

Funny 301 – the American people voted overwhelmingly to enforce federal laws against the illegal alien invasion engineered the handlers of Joey Boy Biden, the most corrupt, and senile, and demented POTUS in US history.
What is happening in Minneapolis is a mirror of the insurrection of May 2020, which spread to many American cities.
This time DJT will use the Insurrection Act in the next few days to forcefully put down the insurrection, an insurrection obviously carefully engineered by the Soros Group, Antifa (which does not exist right?), BLM, anarchists, trotskyites, Black Panthers, and assorted groups………..  and now apparently backed by Governor Tim Red Walz, and Mayor Jacob……….LOL.
Expect federalized NG and US Airborne troops in the city by the weekend….live with it.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 1:36 utc | 370

That is all America can do now. Smash and grab, kidnapping, pirating ships, it’s like NATO, the most they can do is terrorism.
 
If America were going to deploy thousands and thousands of men for 2 months, then this would be real.
 
But they don’t have the logistics. They don’t have the recruitment. They don’t have a place to stage a war with Iran from.
 
It’s not about who would win or lose in an AI simulation. It’s about what is even possible.
 
“When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth,”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 16 2026 1:38 utc | 371

“She said the people of Iran would rather they were bombed by outside forces than continue w the present leadership.”  Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jan 15 2026 15:05 utc | 7
I’m sure Marco Rubio would say the people of Cuba would rather they were bombed by outside forces than continue w the present leadership. And La Machado certainly prefers bombing Venezuela to the present regime. And Moldovan expats in the EU clearly prefer war with Russia to peace.
No problem volunteering someone else to get bombed for you and expats just love it, the hypocritical little NED bunnies. 
 

Posted by: jorge | Jan 16 2026 1:40 utc | 372

Speaking of Machado: Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina ‍Machado ‍said she ⁠presented U.S. President Donald Trump with her Nobel ‍Peace Prize medal ⁠during their meeting on Thursday. She ⁠did not ⁠answer ‍reporters’ questions as to ‌whether he accepted ⁠it.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 1:42 utc | 373

Iran could have dirty Uranium to attack maybe, it would be a disaster.

Posted by: man1990 | Jan 16 2026 1:45 utc | 374

Trump wouldn’t be the first US president to have a civil war and an international conflict on his hands. Lincoln led the Union against Confederate secessionists in a brutal civil war, while also confronting foreign powers like Britain and France, who considered recognizing the Confederacy. So that’s the first manifestation of the “coalition of the willing” entertaining notions of regime change….in the US. Both nations depended heavily on Southern cotton for their textile industries but withheld full recognition to avoid a situation which would legitimize Confederate privateers and complicate cotton imports.
Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:34 utc | 340
================
 
Re the reality behind the “special relationship” between Britain and the USA, see a recent post by Mathew Ehret,
https://matthewehret.substack.com/p/taking-greenland-a-21st-century-war?
 
First graf:

Trump’s recent push to expand US influence into Venezuela and Greenland has been heralded by some as proof of US duplicity and a continuation of the same imperial agenda that lit the world on fire for over a century. For others, these acts are treated as proof of an American patriotic war against the British Empire spearheaded by Trump.”

In the piece he links this short documentary, “The Special relatioship is for Traitors”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNONzKhF3ks
 
 

Posted by: Jane | Jan 16 2026 1:46 utc | 375

Indeed:

Trump reportedly snapped, during a testy June 5, 2018 phone call with Justin Trudeau over steel tariffs, “Didn’t you guys burn down the White House?”—a glib reference to the British torching of Washington on August 24, 1814, in the War of 1812. The historical irony, of course, is that this was retaliation for the U.S. burning of York (present-day Toronto) on April 27, 1813, and that the White House episode itself was carried out by British regulars under the Irish-born General Robert Ross, with only marginal colonial militia involvement. “Canada” as such had nothing to do with it—Confederation would not arrive until July 1, 1867.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 1:51 utc | 376

Funny @ 301
Tobias  Cole,@ 379
Alex Berenson has a pretty good post on the situ in MN and the USA:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-reckoning-on-immigration-is-here?
 
His main point, which I agree with, is that closing the border was the easy part. Figuring out what to do about the 20 million illegals currently dwelling in the USA—whether they are working (for whom?) or scoffing up billions in welfare of different sorts— is the hard part.
 

Posted by: Jane | Jan 16 2026 1:55 utc | 377

“Canada” as such had nothing to do with it—Confederation would not arrive until July 1, 1867.
Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 1:51 utc | 385
================
 
Except that , per Ehret, Canada always has “something to do with it,” as Canada was and is an outpost of the British Empire, and is one of the prime ways that British influence is channeled into the USA govt. For instance, the cabal that murdered Lincoln was based in Canada. The motivation was Lincoln’s determination for the US govt to issue all US currency.
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Posted by: Jane | Jan 16 2026 1:58 utc | 378

Posted by: Jane | Jan 16 2026 1:58 utc | 387
Yeah, Matthew “except that” Ehret certainly is an interesting guy. What else can one say about the cabal in Canada?

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 2:07 utc | 379

  1. I like the suggestions Tom Pfotzer ( Jan 15 2026 17:12 utc | 99 ). However I think both China and North Korea will react militarily to any substantial war-like actions against Iran and potentially directly against the continental US ie. without any limit. Such might be part of the real reason behind the scenes if nothing more happens.
  2. Pax Polli? Pollo? Pollux? (Please excuse my very poor and essentially nonexistent Latin). Anyway a thank you to the chicken! What was chicken in Farsi again? Murgh? Margh? Already forgotten it :/ (scatterbrain me). How does one say “Peace of the chicken” in Farsi?
  3. Always liked Nintendo playing cards.
  4. Yeah it is unlikely to be over; they will probably attack Iran soon. I want Iran to win overwhelmingly and with as few losses as possible and hopefully it will be the end of so-called “Israel” (maybe the US too!). One can wish.

 
(I have only read the first page of comments so far).
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 16 2026 2:09 utc | 380

First up, without going any further than b’s headline,  I will say I am sorry to see it.  Not sorry that war has been averted, even if temporarily.  But sorry that the statements of Trump which evidence a sane assessment should be described in this manner.  Trump did something good not going ahead with the initial impulse.  He should be praised for this.
 
That’s my comment this evening.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 16 2026 2:12 utc | 381

Oh that’s what Pax polli meant, a chicken’s peace, as per the article’s headline. It should be Pax pulli. 

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 2:15 utc | 382

Princess Bodica 385 – the Brits and Canadians retaliated for the burning of York and Fort George by burning Fort Niagara, Lewiston, and Buffalo, and Black Rock, and massacring civilians in those areas, with the help of their native allies.
Ross was an Anglo-Irish soldier, not to be mis-identified as Irish.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 2:23 utc | 383

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 15 2026 23:34 utc | 340
 
Yeah, but but don’t you think the difference between Trump’s and Lincoln’s time is that during the American Civil War there were fairly clear cut boundaries between North and South which I understood pretty much followed or gravitated around the Mason-Dixon line. If civil war breaks out in the US this time it could be between Democrat vs Republican states since he is targeting the former more than the latter, or perhaps a war of everyone against everyone distributed between Trump supporters and others that could literally live anywhere in any state.
Also on the international level, Lincoln was not an imperialist, something that was promoted by the Anti-Imperialist League in the 1890s, so he wasn’t deliberately trying to take over other countries through outward aggression for exploitation.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 16 2026 2:26 utc | 384

the Soros Group, Antifa (which does not exist right?), BLM, anarchists, trotskyites, Black Panthers, and assorted groups………..  and now apparently backed by Governor Tim Red Walz, and Mayor Jacob……….LOL.Expect federalized NG and US Airborne troops in the city by the weekend….live with it.
Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 1:36 utc | 379

As usual, full of shit.
(nobody says antifas doesn’t exist, just that there’s no real antifa organisation overseeing their actions)
Don’t reduce the people you dislike to your obsessions.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 16 2026 2:27 utc | 385

Posted by: juliania | Jan 16 2026 2:12 utc | 390
Well, he connived with his Israeli owners and donors to whip up unrest and provide a pretext for a joint US/Israeli assault on the Islamic Republic causing untold death and damage. Then at the last minute he backed out.
I’m not sure he should get any kind of affirmation for backing out of a conflict situation he himself created.
It’s essentially rewarding and reinforcing bad behaviour – you wouldn’t train a dog  that way.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 16 2026 2:29 utc | 386

Except that , per Ehret, Canada always has “something to do with it,” as Canada was and is an outpost of the British Empire, and is one of the prime ways that British influence is channeled into the USA govt. For instance, the cabal that murdered Lincoln was based in Canada. The motivation was Lincoln’s determination for the US govt to issue all US currency.5
Posted by: Jane | Jan 16 2026 1:58 utc | 387
 
Not more of the “everyone is picking on the poor Americans again”!  I’d swear that Americans can sound like an abused housewife complaining because she didn’t get a mink coat for Christmas.

Posted by: EoinW | Jan 16 2026 2:30 utc | 387

“He should be praised for this.”
Posted by: juliania | 390
 
No. A genocider should never be praised for anything.

Posted by: NotPaulHollywood | Jan 16 2026 2:31 utc | 388

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 1:36 utc | 379

Just deal with the fact there’s two USAs : yours and theirs
Minneapolis may be the start of a new civil war.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jan 16 2026 2:31 utc | 389

While hosting Ben Norton, this evening, Danny Haiphong gave a huge shout-out to B and the “Trump Chickened Out” headline.  It’s nice to observe the various champions of human freedom participating in a friendly dance in support for each other.  Cooperation is ascending, as a site featuring the late Delores Cannon’s explanation of how our 24 hour day is getting the same squeeze as the major banks who have been shorting silver…with cosmic realignment…many of us are now awakening at around three in the morning…and the claim is that we are being “rewired” into a dimensional shift.
 
So, congratulations to B for the recognition and also to Haiphong and Norton striving steadily to keep the restive us informed as to what is really going down.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2026 2:33 utc | 390

This needs to be a wakeup call for Ireland when its estimated that up to 30 million illegal aliens are infesting the US, grabbing up hundreds of billions in welfare scams, serious violent crimes and whole networks of drug smuggling and dealing.
Ireland has sat back and done nothing to stem the tide of fake asylum seekers, and is now paying the price.
Alex Berenson was correct on the Biden pandemic scam, and his is correct on the deliberate Democrat alien invasion open border initiative, the goal of which was to turn the US into a permanent socialist/fascist state, a censorship state, a gun seizure state, a Red Dawn state. 

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 2:38 utc | 391

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 16 2026 2:26 utc | 393

Astute. A civil war doesn’t need battle lines. The Spanish Civil War didn’t. Rwanda didn’t. If we go by the definition of civil war Trump could indeed have a civil war on his hands even if it is neighbor against neighbor. But you see what is happening? A civil war in the US is already a scenario one can debate. Unthinkable just a few years ago. Ditto the UK. Fun fact: Lincoln invoked the Insurrection Act too.

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 2:38 utc | 392

Haiphong also shared  a short clip of Miss Linda Graham of SoCar, making a quick statement while his posture and facial droop indicated that Santa Claus is not gonna bring him delight over the Trumpster bombing Iran anytime soon.
 
 The Old Ordure is failing and flailing and there is no way that they can put Humpty Dumpty together again…”All the King’s Horses and all the King’s Men” are looking to be a sorry lot in Perfidious Albion, what with one single immobile aircraft carrier and an army which cannot get enlistments …so Pedo Starmer and his cronies are calling for a draft.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2026 2:40 utc | 393

Princess Bodica@238:  “Insurrection”???  Have you watched the Trumpeting Elephant in video clips lately.  Doesn’t he look all drawn and harassed?  Is he virgining on a stroke?  Bring out the nitro…or was it all used up in the latest bombs blasting Gaza?

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2026 2:42 utc | 394

On September 24, 1862 President Lincoln officially suspended Habeus Corpus and began to arrest over 45,000 Peace Democrats and Quakers, and to confiscate their bank accounts and properties…..
President Trump by contrast is seeking to deport over twenty million illegal aliens allowed into this country under the open borders sedition orchestrated by the handlers of the brain dead, demented and corrupt Joey Boy Biden.
 

Posted by: tobias cole | Jan 16 2026 2:47 utc | 395

Eioioio:  @230:  One truth about Canuckistan.  They remain a Dominion of the Crown.  The Governor General has the power to overwhelm Parliament and the entire Ottawa infrastructure.  Living to the north of the majority of Canadians, I would like to see them shitcan the Dominion status, give the First Nations a fair deal and end the domination of southern Ontario over the rest of the country.  It could become a great one, if all the rich shitheads were deported to Baffin Island.  I can see it now…All those Bespoke Suits totally baffled over their current status and not a warm parka and a set of those nice S. snow boots in sight.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2026 2:49 utc | 396

As a Minnesotan who lived in Minneapolis decades ago; I’ve been following the protests and the goon-squad in confrontations. Looks like Trump’s owners, such as that Israel First widow out west, have been pushing him to create the kind of armed by both sides chaos that would enable him to read the riot act and send in the regulars.  The goon squad is fast becoming detested by even many Trump voters as a bunch of bullying thugs…to say very little about the three-shots murderer.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2026 2:53 utc | 397

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 2:38 utc | 401
 
It’s just likely be be more difficult when you don’t know where your enemy is going to be and could come from anywhere. 
 
The problem with Trump is that he is creating layers of potential enemies from every direction, every proclivity, and from many sources both domestic and international since he is taking everyone on. I have not seen a leader from any country in all of my life that has such potential to attract such a wide field of adversaries with much animosity held towards him.   

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jan 16 2026 2:54 utc | 398

Cole Feet@247:  No apologies for Lincoln, but in late ’62 he was more fearful of the bank$ters behind him than the Rebs in front of him.  Wars are economically ruinous…except for the speculators, the arms manufacturers like Dupont and the likes of J.P. Morgan who quickly bought up a lot of obsolescent muskets and quickly sold them back to the Union Army as soon as they had more recruits than rifles.  Later in the war, his fortune was further extended by selling reject “shoddy” cloth made into uniforms which melted in the first good rain shower at the front.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 16 2026 2:58 utc | 399

In 1982, when the Constitution was repatriated “Dominion” was dropped from official use. But this is neither here nor there. Or is it?

Posted by: Princess Bodica | Jan 16 2026 2:59 utc | 400