Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 15, 2026
Iran – Trump Chickened Out

Yesterday U.S. President Donald Trump was ready and willing to bomb Iran. The most important target would have been the Supreme Leader, Ajatollah Khamenei.

But Iran was ready and Khamenei safe. The U.S. military, in contrast, was not ready to defend against the inevitable retaliation that would have come out of Iran. There are only three destroyers with air-defenses in the area that could offer  protection against a ballistic missile onslaught. A few minutes after the first strikes their arsenals would have been empty.

Before the last bombing of Iran THAAD and Patriot air defenses from the U.S. and South Korea had been flown to the Middle East. A U.S. carrier group was stationed nearby and U.S. bases had been depopulated. The military was able to provide Trump with somewhat reasonable options.

U.S. allies, most importantly Israel but also some Gulf countries, were fully on board.

This round was way different.

The military was unable to give any good options for strikes. It had to ask Trump to stand down.

The Gulf countries were anxious and did not want to be part of a campaign:

“Bombing Iran goes against the calculus and interests of the Arab Gulf States,” said Bader al-Saif, an assistant history professor at Kuwait University. “Neutralizing the current regime, whether through regime change or internal leadership reconfiguration, can potentially translate into the unparalleled hegemony of Israel, which won’t serve the Gulf States.”

Even Israel suggested to wait until the ‘regime’ breaks down.

That is not going to happen.

The internal configuration of the Islamic Republic has made ‘regime change’ nearly impossible. A majority of the country and the security forces support the country’s political structure. No bunch of paid terrorists, who shoot at random people as well as security forces, can break that connection.

In consequence, at least for now, Trump chickened out.

 

Comments

Really good podcast on Iran and the wider picture. Allister Crook and Sharmine Narwani 
the cradle podcast NR.1 

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Jan 15 2026 19:16 utc | 201

Stand down or abort?
 
I believe the Phase 3 missions were aborted due to failure of Phases 1 & especially 2. The Starlinks sent to Iran (10000?) was not so much to coordinate the riots but for prepositioning to enable a repeat of Spiderweb type SEAD and fixed missile sites. 
 
Iranian/Chinese “Kill Switch” for Starlink could have probably been the wunderwaffe in this round. 
 
Had Iran targeted bases in the complicit Arab States, chances were their regimes would have collapsed and Israel would have been surrounded by angry natives no longer restrained and repressed by the hated Zionists friendly regimes.
 
Hence, the abort.

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 15 2026 19:24 utc | 202

On the subject of diasporas, many of the people from Turkey I know detest the AKP government but that doesn’t say much about opinion in Turkey itself.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jan 15 2026 19:24 utc | 203

@29
 
Easy for her to say.
Sometimes they talk like that thinking they are ingratiating themselves to their hosts. Or maybe life in Iran was better for her parents or grandparents under the shah.

Posted by: Fred777 | Jan 15 2026 19:25 utc | 204

One or more commenters upthread noted that this weekend is a 3-day one for the US and because it is MLK day it is also controversial….perfect time to bomb Iran with Occupied Palestine.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 15 2026 19:26 utc | 205

by flooding GPS channels, terminals cannot create and maintain good connections to the Starlink satellites
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:11 utc | 196
 

 
I’m pretty sure that the satellites track the ground stations and not vice-versa.
 

Posted by: too scents | Jan 15 2026 19:28 utc | 206

You have to take into account that Rouhani and Zarif were “reform”, and none of the reformists were ever eliminated by the CIA or Israel in any raid. AlthoughRaisi and other “hardliners” regularily were. That the present authorities have simply put the two “suspects” in house arrest, shows a level of civilisation that deserves respect, and a calculation not to stir internal hostility by simply zapping them.
 
However, where Trump is concerned, his tactic is to “propose” discussions or the equivalent, and THEN kill whoever shows up. (Solemani for example). I suspect that they are now trying to find out where Khameni is, or was hiding, and waiting for his appearance. That will be a danger point for Iran.
****
 
There is some confusion about US carrier groups on their way to the middle East or not. Some sources say that the Whats’itsname “Ford” is on the way, but that the Naval High command does NOT want this, as it will extend the length of time on “patrol” far too long. Probably they realise as well, that that Carriers are juicy targets for anyone reasonably equipped nowadays. (It would have to stay around Diego Garcia to have some sort of protection).

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 15 2026 19:28 utc | 207

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:15 utc | 201
 
This is very true.
 
But there is a like of “discontinuity” in monotheism.
 
After Adam, the only one who let a know written mark is Henoch, the 7th after Adam. After that, there is a “blank”.
 
Abraham is said to be born to a polytheist family, and to have rediscovered monotheism by itself.
 
The continuity of the prophets of monotheism is after Abraham till the muslim prophet Muhammad.
 
What is sure is that Moses is not the first monotheist in any known written text.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 19:30 utc | 208

Following MenchOsint https://nitter.poast.org/MenchOsint/status/2011779440196395142 the attack would have been a stretch. Now it will still take about 10 days for a carrier group to arrive that would be needed to suppress, somewhat, Iranian retaliation. Me also thinks nothing will happen.
Either way, they’ll conjure some other lies when they want to bomb Iran again. Last time they had the advantages that a backstabbing attack had to offer. Grossi (IAEA) the agent of empire, the Iranian leadership sitting together to study the US proposal, USISUK agents using the same tactics that were applied against Russia’s strategic bombers, … . Those advantages are gone now.
 
The Zionazi’s seemingly conducted a nuclear test today.
https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics/170511
A shallow 4.2-magnitude earthquake in Israel’s Negev desert near Dimona has fueled speculation about a possible nuclear-related test.
Dimona hosts Israel’s undeclared nuclear facility, long shielded from international oversight.
The timing raises further questions. An earthquake preparedness drill had reportedly been scheduled days earlier for nearly the exact moment the tremor occurred. Whether coincidence or coordination, the overlap has fueled suspicion that the event was anticipated.
 
Iran should acquire nuclear deterrent.

Posted by: xor | Jan 15 2026 19:30 utc | 209

Posted by: too scents | Jan 15 2026 19:28 utc | 209
 
#####
 
How does the satellite know a terminal is present? How does it know which packets are for which device?
 
That is what Iran has been disrupting, which is what I have been told.
 
And when the terminal transmits, it is supposedly easy to track down.
 
 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:35 utc | 210

Posted by: Suresh | Jan 15 2026 19:24 utc | 205
>The Starlinks sent to Iran (10000?) was not so much to coordinate the riots but for prepositioning to enable a repeat of Spiderweb type SEAD and fixed missile sites.
Plausible, and definitely their style. The strategy of the new Trump spooks seems to be to conceal every attack behind another attack. What happens when Iran turns the internet back on?

Posted by: catdog | Jan 15 2026 19:36 utc | 211

MarcusAurelius – pointing out that there indeed are young Iranian people in Iran itself (not too many) and in the diaspora community (quite a few) who detest the IRI and love the old Shah and the young Shah wannabe, and would accept assistance from anyone including UK and US and IS to accomplish a change in governance is NOT concern trolling. It’s living in the real world. 

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 15 2026 19:38 utc | 212

What happens when Iran turns the internet back on?
Posted by: catdog | Jan 15 2026 19:36 utc | 214

Lots more MOSSAD operatives and agents get arrested…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jan 15 2026 19:39 utc | 213

You gotta stop writing about Trump, b. Calling him a chicken?! Compare that to one of your articles with lots of great analysis of information from good sources…
 
You are obsessed with him and it creates a blind spot, get over it.

Posted by: Rae | Jan 15 2026 19:41 utc | 214

I have problems posting links so i do it like this:
 Really good podcast on Iran and the wider picture. 
Allister Crook and Sharmine Narwani 
the cradle podcast Nr.1 
 
The last 30min are very interesting. They talk about the frictions between SA and UAE. Very helpfull to get a glimps of the bigger picture. 
 
What i was wondering and which is rarely adressed anywere, is how Russia and China will react this time. Any passivity at this point and with Iran role could have existential consequences for both of them. Yes we know they provided the “Starlink-Killer” but what would happen when USrael would try once more? What are the options? 

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Jan 15 2026 19:41 utc | 215

The Cradle, Ep 147: ‘Will He Or Won’t He?’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B91nL43lPQ
 
“Trump plays for time as Iran promises punishing response.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 15 2026 19:43 utc | 216

Re; Carrier Time on patrol ?
 
The old rule of thumb was 3 months at sea, 3 months repairs, then 3 months training.  That why USN had 12 carriers but only 3 were on patrol at any one time – 1 each Pacific, Atlantic, and Med. That pace of operations changed about 20 years ago. Some Pentagon types musta got MBAs and decided to accelerate the pace. Power Point Jockys won the day. 
 
Now, carriers are often deployed for 6 months. Net result is performance has dropped big time. Being at sea is brutally hard on equipment and people. 
 
 

Posted by: exile | Jan 15 2026 19:43 utc | 217

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 15 2026 19:38 utc | 215
 
How can you love someone or something you don’t know and never see/ meet ?
 
By what metric does anyone chose a distant foreign country that plays no role in his everyday life and politics to help him reach the goal of regime change.
 
Why won’t young Iranian root for democracy without the clerics, or for a califate, but only for monarchy they never lived in ? 

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 19:45 utc | 218

219 corrected:
https://www.youtube.com/@thecradlemedia

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 15 2026 19:45 utc | 219

But there is a like of “discontinuity” in monotheism.
 
Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 19:30 utc | 211
 
#####
 
I am not a scholar or person trained in religious knowledge, but I do know that the Prophets everyone talks about aren’t all of the Prophets, per Islam. Prophets were sent to every people, everywhere at different times.
 
As I understand it, in Islam, Prophets were likely sent to India and China, definitely Africa (the Abyssinian Christian Negus from 614 to 630), maybe even the natives of the Americas, perhaps even the barbarians of the European continent.
 
Some Vedic texts prophesied the appearance of Rasoolallah (Muhammad) one day.
 
This is a massive topic, and as demonstrated by Sheikh Imran Hosein, one can spend an entire lifetime studying it and still have unanswered questions.
 
Personally, I am less interested in history and more interested in philosophy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:45 utc | 220

How does the satellite know a terminal is present?
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:35 utc | 213
 

 
There is a discovery protocol.  The ground stations are nodes.  The satellites are a network.  The ground stations have no knowledge of the network topology.  The satellites share the network topology amongst themselves.
 
The strongest attack is on the discovery protocol.  It keeps the ground stations from joining the network.  I suppose this is done by spoofing the overflying satellites the ground station is listening for.
 
Localizing a transmitting ground station is another possible attack.
 
I don’t see how GPS/GLONAS/BeiDou enters into either scenario.
 

Posted by: too scents | Jan 15 2026 19:47 utc | 221

Posted by: Rae | Jan 15 2026 19:41 utc | 217
 
######
 
Chicken is pretty mild.
 
I call Trump a pedophile and mass murderer.
 
b is a gentleman.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:48 utc | 222

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:45 utc | 223
 

Personally, I am less interested in history and more interested in philosophy.

 
Very good choice.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 19:50 utc | 223

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 15 2026 19:12 utc | 198
 
A real surprise for the US/UK would be an Iranian missile that can reach Diego Garcia.  That would be a game changer.  If not, I’ll settle for Iran to blast Cyprus. Kill two birds with one stone.  Brit base and Zionist Horde.

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 19:53 utc | 224

I feel like I have generally been on the right track.
 
Russia, China, Iran, and Venezuela’s restraint has been working. The US is no further ahead in any theater, and they have all avoided mass civilian casualties or huge infrastructure devastation.
 
When something is working, particularly if your opponent is befuddled, it is unwise to change strategies.
 
If it works, keep doing it. Make the opponent stop you. Keep the pressure on them.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 19:57 utc | 225

A real surprise for the US/UK would be an Iranian missile that can reach Diego Garcia.
 
Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 19:53 utc | 227
 

 
Iran put a satellite in orbit in 2009.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/world/middleeast/04iran.html
 

Posted by: too scents | Jan 15 2026 19:57 utc | 226

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 15 2026 19:38 utc | 215
 
These “young Iranians” you speak of are most likely Iranian Jews, who would love to go back to Iran to exploit the Non-Jew Iranians and their resources. That’s what parasites do.  And if they’re not Iranian Jews, then they’re westernized and do not know our brutal SAVAK was back then. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 19:58 utc | 227

re Starlink 
 
Our Starlink searches for satellites.   The thing scared the bejesus out of me one day when it went in search of a new satellite.   I didn’t realize the cable was also powered by the router to articulate the dish.

Posted by: cc | Jan 15 2026 19:58 utc | 228

I am sick of Love Dombass and others pulling shit out of their ass about networking.
 
Starlink has upload and download frequencies it operates within.  To fuck with it you need electronic equipment that will create and read signals through antennas built for those frequencies.
 
The best way to jam and detect ground users is through triangulation from heights.
 
Fuck Love Dombass and their keyboard vomit of things they know nothing about…a true scourge on the MoA bar

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 15 2026 20:01 utc | 229

We talk about the US but not Israel (is there a real difference?).
 
Israel has got nothing. The IDF is a boogeyman. They couldn’t take out Ansar Allah, Hezbollah, and are struggling with Hamas, a resistance inside a concentration camp.
 
When push comes to shove, the Zionists have to turtle up and hide behind Mama America’s skirt.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:01 utc | 230

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 19:53 utc | 227
 

If not, I’ll settle for Iran to blast Cyprus.

 
 
Wouldn’t this be the place where the coward Netanyahu goes to hide when he instigates bombings against his citizens?
 
Good choice of target indeed.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 20:02 utc | 231

Posted by: too scents | Jan 15 2026 19:57 utc | 229
 
Let’s hope then DG is the first target then. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:02 utc | 232

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 20:02 utc | 234
 
Yes.  Apparently, a large number of Israelis fled Israel to Cyprus to buy up land after True Promise 2. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:03 utc | 233

too scents @209: “I’m pretty sure that the satellites track the ground stations and not vice-versa.”
 
 
Both. Starlink terminals use phased array antennae to “steer” their signals with beamforming to specific satellites in a relatively narrow beam, while the satellites likewise use phased array antennae to generate fairly narrow beamed signals aimed at the terminals. This allows the transmitters to operate at much lower power levels, and why it is relatively impressive that the Russians (and now apparently the Iranians) can locate the terminals. While phased array antennae still have sidelobes that can be detected, those sidelobes tend to be significantly weaker than the main beam, making some signal processing very helpful in tracking the terminals down. In other words, I don’t think you can put a pin in a Starlink terminal with a standard off-the-shelf radio direction finder.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 20:04 utc | 234

The US already is selling Venezuelan oil. They got what they wanted.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 15 2026 20:05 utc | 235

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 15 2026 20:05 utc | 238
 
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To who?
 
And do you have a source for this information?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:07 utc | 236

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 15 2026 20:05 utc | 238
 
Link?

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:09 utc | 237

If Iran/Russia can really locate Starlink terminals…I’m impressed. 

Posted by: Fredrick | Jan 15 2026 20:10 utc | 238

Posted by: Fredrick | Jan 15 2026 20:10 utc | 241
 
#####
 
Russia has been able to for some time. There were Ukrainians (cited by Simplicius, I believe) who said they had become scared to turn their terminals on near the front line. Presumably, the Russian detection range has an equipment-limited range.
 
I do not believe that they can detect any random Starlink terminal turned on globally.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:15 utc | 239

Us relocating Aircraft carrier from South China Sea to near Iran.    May take a week. 
 
Once the US aircraft carrier arrives near Iran…Should China run an impromptu military exercise off the Taiwan coast?

Posted by: Fredrick | Jan 15 2026 20:16 utc | 240

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jan 15 2026 20:05 utc | 238
 
Nothing new. Venezuela even shared a video of an American tanker leaving the port with crude among the blocus.
 
There is an American major always drilling in Venezuela, I forgot the name. This one never leave the country.
 
The question is, what crude is it ?
The one stolen from “seized” tankers, the one that belong to them, or some oil they take from Venezuela as a ransom ?
 
From the 700+bpd production, 600 is said to be earmarked for China, to repay the debt.
If some is diverted, the lawfare is going to be hot.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 20:16 utc | 241

As I recall,  Yemen has already stated they would assist Iran.
 
I just don’t see Iraqi Shias and Hezbollah hanging out.
 
I don’t see Iran in the mood for a “mutual agreed strike” to save face thing like b4.
 
I could be wrong,  they could agree on a short strike thing,  but I’m not seeing Iran being in the mood,  which is making Trumps show shit he likes to do, that much harder.
 
In any event,  the decision has been made. US has to turn around now, tell Nuttyahoo “you’re on your own”  or go balls in.
 
Really curious what Pakistani border will bring.
 
Also curious what aid Afghanistan has in mind.
Quite a few there that would assist with ground forces if needed.
 
I do really wonder how prepped Iran is.
 
 I already know USReal has over estimated itself again.
 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:16 utc | 242

Posted by: Rae | Jan 15 2026 19:41 utc | 217
 
Why shouldn’t he be obsessed? Like his predecessor, he is a certifiably insane criminal with no morals and was elected chief executive of one of the most powerful nations on Earth. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 20:20 utc | 243

Posted by: Fredrick | Jan 15 2026 20:10 utc | 241
 

If Iran/Russia can really locate Starlink terminals…I’m impressed. 

 
Not very new, they talked about it last year.
About the Russian Kalinka system for Starlink signal finding :
 
https://en.iz.ru/en/1807283/2024-12-14/russia-has-developed-kalinka-system-calculating-starlink-signals
 
https://orbitaltoday.com/2025/04/09/russia-china-escalate-threats-against-starlink-with-kalinka-system/
 
 

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 20:21 utc | 244

Posted by: Fredrick | Jan 15 2026 20:16 utc | 243
 
Need to protect their new investment. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-us-reaches-trade-deal-with-taiwan-as-supreme-court-decision-looms-152657183.html

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:21 utc | 245

@238
TACO insists he is exclusive broker for VZ sour heavy crude works bc he can stop the tankers.
 
Won’t work when Chauvistas RPG  tankers, or load booms.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 15 2026 20:21 utc | 246

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 20:16 utc | 244
 
It was Chevron.  Been there decades.
Chevron recently stated that yes, the assets were seized when Oil was Nationalized. 
They stated they had a court case and judgement, and that Venezuela has been paying that judgement, so no reason for them to leave.
 
In other words, they’ve been compensated for their assets (property ect).
 They rest that pulled out and smashed Venezuela with lawsuits, probably have not been.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:22 utc | 247

The US is witnessing the end of free speech. Ritter said 2 says ago ln Judge Nap that Trump should be impeached and he saw his bank account frozen the next day. Now we have Sonar21 frozen without new comment for the past 16 hours. Maybe it was not so smart for Napolitano to interview Marandi yesterday. Useless bravado. That they scheduled the attack for Nima’s visit shows how important the role of these podcasts is considered. 
Decentralized platforms are urgently needed.

Posted by: Tom | Jan 15 2026 20:22 utc | 248

President Trump Tells Iran He Won’t Attack the Country: Iranian Envoy (Antiwar.com)
 
So does this mean he’s about to attack Iran?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 20:22 utc | 249

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:16 utc | 245
 
If israel had to face Iran on its own without Big Daddy, it would be doomed. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 20:23 utc | 250

@ 229 “Iran put a satellite in orbit in 2009.”
Iran tested a 3 stage rocket a few months ago. It was said to be a satellite launch. 
But because it was a sub orbital flight. Some speculate it was a test of a ICBM capable of reaching the USA. 
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/07/22/iran-tests-satellite-launch-vehicle-for-first-time-since-war-with-israel/

Posted by: golddigger | Jan 15 2026 20:23 utc | 251

Alex | Jan 15 2026 15:34 utc | 29
…works at Nintendo
Dude. That 4chan meme is at least 15 years old. Probably 20.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 15 2026 20:25 utc | 252

@ E | Jan 15 2026 17:00 utc | 88  // 168
 
lol…. and that will teach you to be more selective in your reading, lol.. no more copedog for you! 

Posted by: james | Jan 15 2026 20:26 utc | 253

The confiscated Starlink sets I have seen displayed from Iran were all in neat boxes, i.e. unused. So those were not subject to advanced triangulation in my opinion.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 15 2026 20:28 utc | 254

What has been said was that this was a inorganic protest set up by the US and the Zionists with no prepardness of military assets in the area. There will never be any true support for an operation in the region outside the Zionists sphere of influence.
The US’s priority are in its Hemisphere and taking down Cuba and Venezuela by naval blockade. Venezuela, like Iran, has a well established military and civilian assets who are not going anywhere anytime soon.  Of course, Zionists are pushing hard on Persia.  They always have and they always will until they obtain their desired outcome.  You will not see  a war powers resolution vote in Congress when and if we attack Iran.
Persian citizens can protest all they want but unless the Persian military backs them against the IRGC it is useless.  These protests are organic albeit they are being pushed along by currency manipulations and sanctions.  Sanctions suck across the board IMHO.
I know people, hardcore Bay Area Marxists, who sat down with Chavez and the Cubans back in those days.  I know people who have come and gone from Venezuela and they all say the same thing, dangerous hellhole.  
Marxism provided a short term gain when it took over but it always leads to long term destruction.  We are all in deep shit no matter who is in charge. Where has it worked?
I have watched California spiral into decline over the decades but people still want to come here in large numbers.  Cannot say that about those other places mentioned.  Money flows like water here if you know where to stand.  Cannot say that about those other places.
 

Posted by: circumspect | Jan 15 2026 20:28 utc | 255

Posted by: golddigger | Jan 15 2026 20:23 utc | 255
 
If true, that would be the end of the Zionist Project in Occupied Palestine.   The Zios won’t have a casus belli to nuke the world if the US cuts bait. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:29 utc | 256

Saint Jimmy @254: “If israel had to face Iran on its own without Big Daddy, it would be doomed.” 
 
 
The psycho occupiers of Palestine would be doomed in days even if nobody lifted a finder against them if the US pulled support. 
 
 
As I keep saying, it is just an unusually large military base staffed with religious nutcases. Military bases cannot exist without constant external support.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 20:30 utc | 257

Segbo – “How can you love someone or something you don’t know and never see/ meet ?”
 
Of course one can love someone or thing from afar … in fact, for many people and things, getting close is a detriment: the stench of the real thing is a turnoff. 
The children of the diaspora communities live in a gilded memory handed down to them by elders of a past that wasn’t even true when they were living it, since they were not aware or cared for the poverty of the 90%. 
As for the restless youth of Iran itself, they see “know” what they don’t like (the familiar tyranny close to hand) and they “see” a golden dream on the internet and western media. Much like the citizens of the SU before 1991, it’s easy to love the west if you’ve never lived here. 

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 15 2026 20:31 utc | 258

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 15 2026 20:28 utc | 258
 
######
 
I believe the Iranian authorities are seizing terminals being smuggled in.
 
In the box.
 
Hopefully, they turn them over to the Russians, who are using black market Starlink for some long-range reconnaissance drone, making them immune to conventional EW and allowing deeper penetration behind Ukrainian lines.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:31 utc | 259

I see people write that Iran would have targeted American bases in the Arab countries, but would that not entail declaring war on the Arab countries?

Posted by: Afro | Jan 15 2026 20:32 utc | 260

Posted by: Fredrick | Jan 15 2026 20:16 utc | 243
 
Had Venezuela at minimal made an effort to break the embargo,  that probably would have taken some fire power off of Iran.
 
 I can’t see China attacking Taiwan,  but I would not be surprised if they sent warships to gulf to “monitor” the situation… they’re warships could provide jamming and alternate sources of satellite surveillance for Iran, as well as rescue any Iranian distressed ships.
 
 I saw a report that during the air closure of Irans airspace,  China cargo planes were entering at that time.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:32 utc | 261

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:29 utc | 260
#####
 
Trump didn’t have a casus belli for the 12-day war, for the blockade, for killing Soleimani, or for the kidnapping of Maduro.
 
Legal justifications are no longer required. They never were really, but the pretense of creating one (Yellow Cake, etc) is no longer being done.
 
Stephen Miller has clearly stated that the US will go where it wants and do what it wants because it can.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:35 utc | 262

Posted by: circumspect | Jan 15 2026 20:28 utc | 259
 
How do you explain Colombia, Ecuador, and Nicaragua… all free market paradises – also being dangerous hell holes?

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 20:36 utc | 263

Israelis to Cyprus to buy up land after True Promise 2. 
Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:03 utc | 236
Pilling on another reason Turkiye is opposed to further attacks on Iran.
Turkiye can foresee the new settlers deciding “akshually, Cyprus – all of it – was promised to us 3000 years ago … “

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 15 2026 20:36 utc | 264

Posted by: Afro | Jan 15 2026 20:32 utc | 264
 
#####
 
The Arab police state monarchies are American/Israeli vassals, not sovereign nations.
 
The only Arab exceptions are the revolutionary Yemeni, Ansar Allah, and some parts of Iraq. Everyone else is bought and sold.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:38 utc | 265

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:35 utc | 266
 
No doubt, but if the Zios launch Samson, it’s not only be the end of Israel, but Zionist, worldwide.  Persona non-grata.  Of course, a lose-lose for humanity.  But yes, they’ll skip the gaslighting and propaganda, and bomb regardless.  Regarding Miller, sounds more like the confidence game since the US Military relies on China rare earths for their war machine. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:39 utc | 266

How do you explain Colombia, Ecuador, and Nicaragua… all free market paradises – also being dangerous hell holes?
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 20:36 utc | 267
Smedley Butler. He confessed how he’d destroyed Central America for the United Fruit Company.
The U$ has been fucking with its Monroe neighbourhood for over a century now.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 15 2026 20:40 utc | 267

Actually it is the Abraham Lincoln Carrier group that is heading for Iran, not the Ford which is still in the Caribbean

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 15 2026 20:41 utc | 268

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 15 2026 20:36 utc | 268
 
Fun fact, the Sultans during Ottoman days collaborated/consulted with Zionist Herzl in the Armenian Genocide.  But yes, Turkiye of today is caught between a rock and a hard place. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:42 utc | 269

President Trump Tells Iran He Won’t Attack the Country: Iranian Envoy (Antiwar.com) So does this mean he’s about to attack Iran?
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 20:22 utc | 253
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Or another proxy attack by Israel is imminent?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 20:42 utc | 270

“If israel had to face Iran on its own without Big Daddy, it would be doomed. “
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 20:23 utc | 254
 
Think we all saw that X post of that huge missile… that “this is for you” Israel.
 
 I rather believe, that although they may take the Qatar command center out… maybe some bases in Iraq,  the majority of their fire power will be concentrated on USReal to once and for all, destroy them.  
Think they FINALLY got the memo:
Its us or them…
 
If they’re going to face years of blown out buildings, devastation & hunger… then they want the sticker that says “Israel is no more…”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:43 utc | 271

circumspect @259: “I know people who have come and gone from Venezuela and they all say the same thing, dangerous hellhole.”
 
 
I’ve backpacked around the northern and western parts of South America, including Venezuela, and Venezuela didn’t seem all that dangerous to me. Less dangerous than Colombia (the military there was super-jumpy), and certainly much less dangerous than Oakland. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 20:44 utc | 272

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:43 utc | 275
 
Taking out Israel’s desalination plants would make a fine target. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:47 utc | 273

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 20:42 utc | 274
Same clip from article that Trump won’t strike.
Trump sent message via Pakistan Moghadam.
“Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), a close ally of President Trump, claimed in a post on X that Moghadam’s remarks weren’t true. “The circumstances around the necessary, decisive action to be taken against the evil Iranian regime have nothing to do with President Trump’s will or determination,” Graham said. “Nothing could be further from the truth. Quite the opposite. Stay tuned.”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:47 utc | 274

No doubt, but if the Zios launch Samson, it’s not only be the end of Israel, but Zionist, worldwide.
 
Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Jan 15 2026 20:39 utc | 270
 
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They are all in on the Rapture. I don’t see them being worried about annihilation or ostracism. Ostracism and holocaust only reinforce Zionist identity. They are better than the goyim, which is why they are persecuted and hated. Not through any fault of their own, but because the cattle resent their betters.
 
Sure, there are sincere, God-fearing, and peace-loving, devout Jews, but those aren’t in the Knesset or directing the IDF.
 
The worst of the worst rise to the top. The ones with flexible morality and aggressive personalities.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:47 utc | 275

Venezuela is a hellhole, and the Uighurs are oppressed slaves.
 
Also, Americans are going to be richer than ever before!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 20:50 utc | 276

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 15 2026 20:31 utc | 262
 
There is no monarchy Shah or Baby Shah “golden dream” on display on the internet.
 
It was finished 46 years ago, before your “young Iranian” were even born.
 
That’s why this narrative is fallacious.
 
Only Netanyahou and his team are foolish enough to think an old hated monarchy can be brought back to be imposed on people who for the most part never experienced it.
 
And that someone who leave a country 46 years before asa child can run it again today.
 
All this tell of a return of the Shah is simply absurd.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 20:52 utc | 277

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 15 2026 20:40 utc | 271
 
I know. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 20:52 utc | 278

Posted by: fnord | Jan 15 2026 17:27 utc | 116
 
Ha, yes indeed. The metphysician shows their hand when they use metaphors like ‘language of the universe’. Since language is a representational and conceptual form its relationship to reality is always at a distance (hence the mise en abyme of metaphor). Even the verb ‘to be’, which plays at determining the real, can only refer (which is also to say it can only defer, or ‘put off’ an encounter with the real). As such even the ‘language of the universe’ must be metaphorical at its base, only in a banal form (tautology). And when that language encounters absurdity (from its point of view), it must resort to the metaphors of anomaly (irrational numbers, etc), which becomes hilarious when all those anomalous forms turn out to be the most central and fundamental: e, pi, i, zero, etc., and one has to resort to real language to give them any meaning, which in turn proves that mathematics is a quintessentially human artefact. If mathematics is the language of God all it proves is that He is an utterly boring conversationalist and obtuse. But in the end expressions like ‘language of the universe’ turn out to be contradictions: how can a transcendent metaphysics be articulated via representation (i.e, art, whose function is to encounter the mystery of reality and revels in the play of disclosure and concealment)? Plato’s dilemma in Republic 10: art is deceit, and discloses nothing. 2+2 = 4 is a feedback loop: the truth lies in its mystery (in what way does 4 differ from 2+2?); only poets and philosophers can divine that—with language!

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 15 2026 20:53 utc | 279

Cyprus – all of it – was promised to us 3000 years ago …
 – Melaleuca  268

 
File under: Funny but; Not Funny
 
I can just see some Israeli-American Rabbi, your basic UROC* model, speaking with great gravitas on the subject on how biblical text requires the Israelis to steal yet another piece of land in the GREATER ISRAEL PROJECT.  You just know it’s coming.
 
*Unassimilated residents of convenience 175

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 15 2026 20:54 utc | 280

The gold standard , fixed exchange rate brigade say.. 
 
 “They need to steal the oil to deal with the national debt. ”
 
Nope gold standard , fixed exchange rate thinking ( as per usual ) by those with little brain or simply can longer think.for themselves.
 
Debt/ GDP math refresher 
 
://bondeconomics.substack.com/p/debtgdp-math-refresher?r=nmvfm&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
 
Not that the ” ideologues ” or ” kissingerarians” will understand a word of it.
 
 
 

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Jan 15 2026 20:56 utc | 281

I’ve backpacked around the northern and western parts of South America, including Venezuela, and Venezuela didn’t seem all that dangerous to me. Less dangerous than Colombia (the military there was super-jumpy), and certainly much less dangerous than Oakland. 
Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 20:44 utc | 276

 
We sure have seen some changes since the 1960’s huh?
 
You can roughly map Venezuelan prosperity by the oil production. Year 2020 was when they hit the skids hard, then China came along and bailed them out with loans and rebuilt the oil industry. There’s a chart showing exactly what happened … click below and zoom out to 10Y timespan.
 
https://tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/crude-oil-production

Posted by: Tel | Jan 15 2026 20:57 utc | 282

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jan 15 2026 20:47 utc | 278
 
Miss Lindsey is the toughest talking pansy I’ve ever run into. I actually did run into him once in the basement of a Senate office building. He bumped right into me and almost made me spill my coffee. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 20:57 utc | 283

To certain barflies here breathlessly predicting imminent doom:
 
No, Israel is not about to be destroyed.
Neither is Iran.
 
You can stop masturbating over that particular image.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 20:58 utc | 284

William Gruff  237
 
Thanks. Not an EE or an electronics wiz so a layman’s explanation of the difficulties is useful stuff

Posted by: S Brennan | Jan 15 2026 20:59 utc | 285

Is the consensus that this is a pause and the attack is still on soon?
 
Do we think this pause hurts or helps Iran? Will the increased US naval assets tip the balance?
 
Is it harmful to America (and the UK, soon France too) to stage assets so far from home for an extended period?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 21:05 utc | 286

Brave Iranian feminists scrawl “Trump” across their breasts while waiting for bombs to liberate them
 
As the Maduro thing fizzled out and the Epstein thing didn’t, President Trump desperately needed an excuse to bomb Iran, and right on cue, those brave Iranians spontaneously started rioting. It was the best coincidence because it gave us the excuse to liberate their oil and their hot women.
It truly has been a liberating past few days. I can’t tell you how much fun I’ve had lecturing privileged human rights supporters. “Oh, you don’t want a regime change war? What are you? A fucking Ayatollah supporter?”
The telecommunications blackout has given us the perfect chance to lie to our heart’s content. I’m now in a competition with Bari Weiss to see who can inflate the casualty figure highest. I’ve reached seventy-twelve trillion and ninety-five and I’m winning because Bari can’t count that high. This is what makes me the world’s best propagandist.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Jan 15 2026 21:06 utc | 287

Steal the oil to fix the debt ?
 
As the debt  ratio grows, you need an even larger fiscal deficit to keep up nominal GDP growth. For example, let us say the net debt-to-GDP ratio magically jumped to 200%. If nominal GDP growth is still 5%, you need a fiscal deficit of 10% of GDP just to keep the ratio unchanged.
 
That is a very large flow of income relative to the size of the economy. You can get deficits of 10% of GDP during deficits or total wars (where you typically run rationing schemes to control inflation), but it is hard to sustain such a deficit in peacetime in an expansion without inflation blowing out (which contradicts the 5% nominal GDP growth assumption).
 
Note that this is  net debt. Japan has very high gross debt, but that was only achievable courtesy of arms of governments having high government debt holdings. This is described in a 2025 paper ( by the St. Louis Fed. 
 
The gross debt is given as 270%, but net debt is 78%. It is possible to write extremely large IOU’s to yourself and not affect the economy. (If I write an IOU to myself for eleventy quadrillion dollars, I have both an asset and a liability that cancel each other out.) In Japan’s case, it is a bit more complicated, but this is just intra-governmental accounting,
 
In the absence of secular policy changes, the (net) debt-to-GDP ratio can easily bounce around current levels on a “sustainable” basis. There is absolutely nothing stopping the US from buying its own debt like Japan does. In fact they have done it many times recently in some cases $500 billion a month.
 
We need to reverse the trend in modern fiscal policies: increase the fiscal balance with the least effect on nominal GDP growth. That is, soak the rich in taxes. Alternatively, rich people can learn to stop yapping about the perils of government debt.
 
So no , the war mongering , fascist genocide supporting US do not need to steal the oil because of their national debt. They are trying to control the oil to control China.
 
The gold standard, fixed exchange rate brigade are just stupid.

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Jan 15 2026 21:06 utc | 288

I’ve backpacked around the northern and western parts of South America, including Venezuela, and Venezuela didn’t seem all that dangerous to me. Less dangerous than Colombia (the military there was super-jumpy), and certainly much less dangerous than Oakland. 
Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 20:44 utc | 276
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My own experience in Central America:
 
In 1988 I took a “fact-finding” trip with a bunch of other university folks down to Nicaragua.
It was my first (and only) venture down there.
 
At the Managua airport we were greeted by machine-gun toting Sandinista soldiers.
They guided us through customs inspections.
They were super polite, very nice, non-threatening.
 
Our guide, who had been down that way several times before, told us that this was a marked contrast to the way they were greeted in San Salvador, where the gun-toting soldiers were actually quite menacing.
 
Our trip ended when Ronald Ray-Gun called up troops for another Contra attack on the country.
Our hotel (Hotel Mercedes) was across the road from the airport. We heard mucho planes taking off that day.
 
Our guide, a young Sandinista (from south Philly!) was called up to active service and bade us goodbye.
 
My impression of Nicaraguans from that trip? They’re basically party animals, ready to dance and feast at the drop of the hat. Also have a great sense of humor.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jan 15 2026 21:06 utc | 289

Posted by: Sebgo | Jan 15 2026 20:52 utc | 281
 
Agree Sebco, and I pointed this out to my Iranian boy. Did not jolt him. Not sure where he got his passion from. His grandfather i think. From what I could piece together, his grandfather had been rich, (still relatively so) under the Shah, but he and his father lived in very constrained circumstances.
 
An extraordinarily clever boy (his English as a 16 year old was better than most Australian born University graduates), he was also I think well down the spectrum as we would fashionably say today.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 15 2026 21:08 utc | 290

Lots of chatter about Starlink, not a lot about radio though.
 
Mr.Gruff. 3 would be required for location purposes.one would be adequate for frequency detection.
 
Given that Starlink operates on a certain frequency range, the narrower that band is, the easier it is to hunt. The Soviets/newly formed Russian federation were capable of finding your location in around 12-15 seconds depending on terrain and signal strength.
 
The Axion dark matter receiver is at least 12 years old. It’s detection abilities (in it’s frequency range) are strong enough to pick up mobile phone signals from Mars (assuming no interference). A lot has happened in 12 years

Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Jan 15 2026 21:15 utc | 291

 
Talked w a coworker yesterday.She’s from the Iranian diaspora.I’m still trying to process what she said.She said the people of Iran would rather they were bombed by outside forces than continue w the present leadership.  
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jan 15 2026 15:05 utc | 7
Asking a member of the Iranian diaspora, whose exile usually indicates a former position of privilege under the former regime (Shah), is rather like asking the Miami Cubans of Little Havana if they think their darker-complexioned countrymen back home should be bombed and subjected to economic hardship…

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jan 15 2026 21:18 utc | 292

Steal the oil to fix the debt?
 
If you don’t want to tax the rich because you worship their arseholes and think they walk on water because you are so ideological and  Stupid enough to actually believe their taxes fund things.
 
The answer is: one needs to worry about inflation created by fiscal and other policies (looking at you, tariff policy), but the debt-to-GDP ratio will take care of itself.
Let us take a look at the American debt-to-GDP ratio in the figure above. The latest figure (from the second quarter of last year) is at around 118%. For some reason, people get into a panic about a debt-to-GDP ratio of 100%, but that is a superstition and/or relying on a bogus study (see the appendix).
The thing people forget about the debt-to-GDP ratio is that it is a ratio. At a level of 118%, what do you thing the level of the deficit required to lower it by 5% to 113% if nominal GDP growth is 5% (roughly current levels)?
You need a small deficit of around 1/2% of GDP. That is right, a deficit, not a fiscal surplus. If you managed to balance the budget without tanking nominal GDP growth (admittedly, not easy), the growth in the GDP denominator would “reduce the ratio” by a factor of 5% (new ratio = old ratio/1.05, not (new ratio as a %) = (old ratio as a %) – 5%).
Getting to a balanced budget is normally very difficult, but if you keep the deficit at 3% of GDP (which is fairly typical for modern economies outside of recessions), the debt-to-GDP ratio will converge on 60% eventually (albeit slowly). Given that deficits blow out in recessions, you probably need a slightly lower deficit to get there in practice.
A slightly lower deficit will reduce growth. Unless, you ramp up bank lending and go to a “conservative ” quick quid economy and burden households and businesses with loans ( been tried and always failed and caused 2008) the Tory way of growing an economy. Increased austerity with banks on a rampage of risky lending.
 
Causes its own problems.
 
Taxing the rich is the best most economical way to go about it. To reduce the savings held in bond portfolios by the rich. The debt-to-GDP ratio will then take care of itself.
 
 

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Jan 15 2026 21:23 utc | 293

 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 21:05 utc | 290
No, I think what is happening is that no matter how much Trump is bribed, he is confronted with the reality that Iran has the top 5 military defense systems in the world and their ballistic missiles and drones could level Israel.  

Posted by: Deniz | Jan 15 2026 21:23 utc | 294

Some random comments
 

  • I do not trust the backdown by Trump. I hope Iran does not
  • Where are the US aircraft carriers
  • Trump I think assumed Venezuelan oil would keep oil flowing even if Iran blocked the straits of Hormuz. I think this might have been a miscalculation, hence possible delay on striking Iran
  • I suspect that behind the scenes both Russia and China have had something to say on Venezuelan oil, that may have changed the dynamic
  • oreshnik
  • China has indicated strong support for iran
  • Russia dare not let the USA have control of Tehran, and will intervene to stop it. Too close to their underbelly
  • The Gulf states have seen Venezuela and Oreshnik and have got cold feet
  • Ditto Turkey
  • Interesting report on arrest of Rouhani et al. Yes makes sense. Israel/US/UK would have wanted a puppet government. The Shah was obviously a non starter
  • Those who criticise Russia for abandoning Syria, seem not to suspect that it was Iran under the “moderate” Perezekian which pulled back, leaving Russia with little option other than to save Assad and his family.

It is all still a bit of a confused mishmash of information but probably all ties together.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 15 2026 21:24 utc | 295

Bernhard is a cheap weasel – not a word does he write about Minnesota and Trump’s attack upon the American patriots.
 
Nor the fact of how many of these ICE Criminals are Proud Boys and other Fanatical MAGA right wing gun toting nutcases. 
 
Nothing about what Cowards these ICA scum are and what a Loser Trump and MAGA really are. 
 
Is B a racist violent right wing too? What dd the MN Somalians ever do to him? Yep, seems so. His silence condemns him.. 

Posted by: Funny | Jan 15 2026 21:24 utc | 296

Posted by: Deniz | Jan 15 2026 21:23 utc | 299
 
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I suspect the attack plan was heavily reliant on Starlink for some aspects of the operation.
 
They don’t have the troops to occupy Iran, which is massive, many times larger than Iraq.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Department of Hegseth (DOH) asked the President to reconsider for a couple of days as they rework their strategy.
 
Trump likes to make moves while the markets are closed and the Western media are slacking off (weekends). 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 15 2026 21:30 utc | 297

George the Zeroth @293: “My impression of Nicaraguans from that trip? They’re basically party animals, ready to dance and feast at the drop of the hat. Also have a great sense of humor.”
 
 
That was my impression of Venezuelans and Colombians both. Very gregarious and boisterous folks. I kept getting “adopted” wherever I went, but perhaps that was because they took pity on a poor lost-looking foreigner since I was travelling solo?
 
 
The soldiers, on the other hand, were polar opposite between Colombia and Venezuela. As I mentioned, the Colombian troops were really jumpy and threatening-looking. I was very careful around them as it felt like they were on hair-trigger and I didn’t want to get shot. The Venezuelan troops, on the other hand, always seemed to be off-duty and just chilling with the locals. Very much non-threatening.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 21:31 utc | 298

@ William Gruff | Jan 15 2026 20:44 utc | 276
 
thanks for bringing some objectivity to the conversation… as i said previously here at moa, my friend and i went to olympic peninsula  early december.. he was born in caracas and he informed me his 83 year old sister, living in peru, wants to go back to caracas, as they own an apartment their and maduro had made caracas much safer then it had been when she left… what do they know? are msm certainly won’t be telling us anything about this… 
 
meanwhile trumps ”its about the drugs coming in from venezuela” – any other tobias coles at moa believe that bullshit still? 

Posted by: james | Jan 15 2026 21:37 utc | 299

Time for a little music…
 
In the Moments Before the Third World War
 
https://davidrovics.substack.com/p/in-the-moments-before-the-third-world-war
 
“Between abducting the Venezuelan president, killing scores of Cubans, boarding Russian tankers and threatening to invade Greenland the immediate future is feeling very sketchy…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 15 2026 21:37 utc | 300