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December 9, 2025
Zelenski Defies Trump, Rejects Peace Deal

Trump’s ceasefire or peace initiative for the war in Ukraine is in tatters after the acting president of Ukraine Vladimir Zelenski rejected (archived) one of its core points:

Ukraine will not surrender territory, President Volodymyr Zelensky declared Monday, rejecting a central Russian demand that President Donald Trump had incorporated into his latest proposal to end the Kremlin’s war.

“Under our laws, under international law — and under moral law — we have no right to give anything away,” Zelensky said, after meeting with top European leaders to discuss Trump’s plan Monday. “That is what we are fighting for.”

Zelenski would not reject Trump’s plan without the support from European leaders. Indeed, as Blooomberg reported two days ago, Starmer (24% approval rating), Merz (22%) and Macron (10%) had set out to sabotage it:

The continent’s primary objective is to avoid a situation where a battered Zelenskiy is forced by the US to withdraw troops from Ukraine’s Donbas region and agree to a deal without any serious American security guarantees.

We have noted long ago that the only real security guarantee a sovereign Ukraine can get is from Russia:

But any such guarantee will of course come with conditions attached to it. Either Ukraine will accept those or it will never be secure from outer interference.

That is simply a fact of life Ukraine has had to, and will have to live with.

Trump’s recent National Security Strategy set out the end of the conflict in Ukraine as one of its aims. The U.S. is thus likely to press further on Kyiv.

There are several ways to do that. The U.S. could threaten to end all intelligence support for the Ukrainian military. It is still delivering constant detailed analyses from satellite pictures and other sources that only the U.S. can provide. This allows Ukraine to know where Russian forces are moving. Blocking such data would be immediately felt on the battlefield.

Another possibility is for the U.S. to tell the NABU anti-corruption investigators, which it controls, to open a case against Zelenski. After recently removing Zelenski’s advisor Andrei Yermak simply by searching his office NABU has been remarkably silent. Yermak has not even been served with an official suspicion. He might be offered a deal to become a witness against Zelenski.

Another alternative is for Trump to simply walk away from the issue for another six months or so. By then the already catastrophic electricity situation in Ukrainian cities (2×4 hours per day max) as well as on the battlefield will have worsened sufficiently to make a land-for-peace deal even more attractive than it is today.

Comments

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 10 2025 8:37 utc | 202
Must be paycholgy too:
What’s at the Root of Name-Calling?
Calling others names they do not deserve stems from insecurities, displaced aggression, or the need to dominate and/or control a partner/friend/coworker/etc.
Those who do not have much ego strength build themselves up by tearing down innocent others. It’s a maladaptive pattern that could stem from learned behavior—that is, witnessing others do this in childhood. It may also arise from unresolved emotional issues
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-full-picture/202408/the-psychology-behind-name-calling-in-politics-and-beyond
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:15 utc | 201

The Laurence method of argument:
https://sonar21.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/school1-1747408762.019-1764514945.222.jpg

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:22 utc | 202

Mark2 | Dec 9 2025 23:24 utc | 132
“If england, europe and america dont want a large amount of refugees and ileagle imigrants comeing to their countrys. They should…..Stop starting wars. Stop destabalizing countrys politicaly. Stop exploiting poor countrys.Until then i am very much pro imigrant and refugee. Becouse….Dont blame the victem.”
 
How are those actions of Western elites the fault of the Western working class, who you and others claim to care so much about, who has to bear the entire brunt of these invasions? The elites themselves are completely shielded from all the evil effects of mass immigration.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 10 2025 9:24 utc | 203

Trump issues yet another deadline: “Deal by Christmas” for Zelensky
 
https://www.rt.com/news/629243-trump-sets-zelensky-deadline/

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:26 utc | 204

“Trump issues yet another deadline: “Deal by Christmas” for Zelensky // Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:26 utc | 207”
 
Christmas on December 25th or January 7th?

Posted by: Asian Frog | Dec 10 2025 9:32 utc | 205

God Mode Declared. 
 
‘ Zlatti71 (@Zlatti_71)
‼️ Hackers from the KillNet group have created an interactive map of Ukraine called “MATRIX” showing the locations of factories producing drones for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The map is updated in real time and contains information about 850 FPV production sites, 720 large drone factories, 45 marine drone manufacturing enterprises, 380 kamikaze drone creation points, and 136 locations where reconnaissance drones are assembled. – UARU
Dec 10, 2025 · 6:28 AM UTC ‘
 
 
Looks as if the big boys have decided enough is enough!
 
The natzios must concede defeat or have all the not so secret, wunderwaffen, bullshit, annihilated. The ‘peenemundes’ of this era.
 
Nazis just can’t stop being mad. They are indoctrinated all their lives and they have raised proxy sacrificial brainwashed peoples  
 
in fewer words :
 
Resistance is Futile!
 
The multipolar has won and unipolar is defeated.
Only the shithead Fascist idiot old bastards who have been raised all their whole dynastic lifetimes refuse to accept their masterplan has failed, again, they are the forever ‘bad guys’ – death worshipping Natzios.  
 
if they don’t heed this direct message I expect the oreshniks, plus the other new ones, to fly to every ‘secret’ base – If they are known in the ukraine – they are known EVERYWHERE. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 9:34 utc | 206

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 10 2025 9:24 utc | 206
 
Nothing is fair for the Western working class except for some who are useful idiots that vote for the people that deceive them every time and never seem to learn.
But does that really defeat Mark2’s argument since even if it was people in the past and elites that did the actions he suggests, the result is what we see today with refugees arriving from many of these often war torn countries, or ones where the wealth was formally extracted.  The damage is already done, it’s just the result irrespective of who it impacts or who did it. You are most certainly correct however that it never impacts elites, in fact historically they have actually been rewarded for it.
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:41 utc | 207

‘Bankrupt Europe hurtling to total destruction’ amid ‘warmongering’ and Trump RIFT: Alex Krainer

Neil Oliver and Alex Krainer discuss Europe’s rift with Donald Trump over the Ukraine war and the battle between globalism and the supremacy of national sovereignty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgx6S7WadEo

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 10 2025 9:44 utc | 208

Posted by: Asian Frog | Dec 10 2025 9:32 utc | 208
 
Christmas on December 25th or January 7th?
 
Who knows?
 
Like all Trump deadlines he will either change his mind or shift the goal posts when it gets closer to either date.
 
Meanwhile Russia will…………carry on regardless. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:45 utc | 209

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:22 utc | 205

Those who do not have much ego strength build themselves up by tearing down innocent others

Eat it, George. 🍴
 
 

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 10 2025 9:51 utc | 210

From Reuters
 
EU close to a deal on Russian assets, summit to go on until agreement, Costa says
 
Desperation is as desperation does………Like there is some magic that will all of a sudden make it “legal”.
 
I guess if they go forward it will just represent the coffin that the EU is lowered into as all monies from the RoW are removed for lack of trust.
 
 
How many here have read The Shock Doctrine and think that what is happening to the EU is similar to what happened in South America?……..I know we are early into it but I expect a US dollar debt jackboot across the EU will bring similar results……sad to say and watch.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2025 9:53 utc | 211

@193 Snake
 
The  capitalism IS monopolistc sinse 1870.  

Posted by: Soviético | Dec 10 2025 10:00 utc | 212

Multipolarbear | Dec 10 2025 1:34 utc | 160
 
“For decades, Russian strategic communication has simply not landed in the West — not because Russians are wrong or incompetent, but because Russia uses a high-context communication style, while the West uses a low-context one. This isn’t a criticism or blaming. In the Anglo-American world, communication is expected to be explicit: clear statements, short logic chains, repeated slogans, simplified metaphors. “Say it plainly or it didn’t happen.”
 
In that case anyone on either side who doesn’t understand that and adjust accordingly is wrong and incompetent. Unless they’re deliberately trying to deceive and bait the opponent into an action.
 
I’ve been saying for years that if Putin is as intelligent as he’s said to be, that has to mean he is deliberately making himself and Russia look irresolute, indecisive, weak, in order to induce NATO to launch direct attacks on Russia. Sure enough, it’s taking a long time but Europe is now openly talking about launching “pre-emptive” strikes which would trigger WWIII.
 
Is that what Putin wants? His own counter-threats (like “there might be no one left to negotiate with”)  remain obscure. Over the last four years Europe has travelled most of the psychological distance toward attacking directly. They are collectively homicidal-suicidal. They are not sane. They only doubt they have left is whether the US will stand by them in the end. There Trump as well keeps giving mixed signals to his fellow Western leaders as well as to the Russians. (Probably because Trump has no plan at all but wakes up each morning wondering what the day will bring and how he’ll react.)
 
Since nobody has a plan it’s possible this theater war will fizzle out without escalating to a full direct NATO-Russia war. But given the European mindset, and how they’ve been left alone by both Putin and Trump to seethe among themselves, I wouldn’t bet on it.
 
At most it’ll be just a Minsk III respite for NATO and any rump Ukraine to rearm themselves. All the fake talk about fake agreements and fake elections boils down to that. Either Russia will complete the war successfully by force on the ground, or it will fail.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 10 2025 10:04 utc | 213

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 10 2025 9:51 utc | 213
 
“Those who do not have much ego strength build themselves up by tearing down innocent others”
 
Eat it, Laurence 🍴 Your snow white innocence is palpable!
 
Now you are using the evidence from psychology I supplied (you’ve not been able to counter it) which you formally claimed was “that’s a theoretical pile of crap” and “specious claptrap” to argue your point !   Funny.  You couldn’t argue your way out of a wet paper bag.  
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 10:10 utc | 214

@ George & Laurence:
Could you please stop your fight here?
Many thanks.

Posted by: scc | Dec 10 2025 10:16 utc | 215

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 10 2025 10:04 utc | 217
————————
From what I read so far, those preemptive strikes were at the level of  internet attacks, not military.

Posted by: scc | Dec 10 2025 10:20 utc | 216

 
Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 10 2025 1:34 utc | 160
 
Lovely exposition.  Thank you.
  
Next stage, when communication fails as dramatically as it has done between Russia and the West, is stop talking, start shooting.  Which unfortunately we’re seeing all over the place.
 

Posted by: English Outsider | Dec 10 2025 10:27 utc | 217

BIZARRE!!
 
Zelensky asks the west for air support over Ukraine to prevent russian missiles whilst he HOLDS AN ELECTION.
 
😆😆😆😆😆😆

Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 10 2025 10:40 utc | 218

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2025 6:13 utc | 192
Posted by: snake | Dec 10 2025 6:31 utc | 193
Posted by: normal wisdom | Dec 10 2025 9:55 utc | 215
 
 
100% agree barflies .
 
As per my last.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 10:44 utc | 219

” “MATRIX” list of drone assembly sites”
Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 9:34 utc | 209
 
We will be informed that the Russians AGAIN bombed away at residential
buildings killing droves of babies, kids, women and retired seniors
and have hit a hospital or two.

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 10 2025 10:46 utc | 220

Flying Dutchman @ 206
 
George Wendall has answerd your question to me,  perfectly. Probably better than i could.
 
Dont lets get played here on this thread….
 
Sam beyoud doubt is @ gruff.  trying to derail a good and relivant thread.  As usal.
 
 

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 10 2025 10:46 utc | 221

Hundreds of Ukrainian FPV drone plants discovered and mapped out? Big news.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 10 2025 10:48 utc | 222

scc | Dec 10 2025 10:20 utc | 220
 
“From what I read so far, those preemptive strikes were at the level of internet attacks, not military.”
 
It’s part of continuing gradually to move deeper into the cold water before plunging in. Rhetorically they’ve long been in full fantasy mode about imposing no-fly zones (i.e. directly confronting the Russians in the air), closing the Baltic to Russia and sending de jure NATO forces to the Ukraine. They very ardently want to do all these things, and are struggling to overcome their last inhibitions.
 
The only alternative would be to admit Europe’s complete bankruptcy in every way and submit to being treated like serfs by both Russia and the US. 

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 10 2025 10:53 utc | 223

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2025 9:53 utc | 214
 
I know we are early into it but I expect a US dollar debt jackboot across the EU will bring similar results
 
Looks like they’re going to the mat.

Posted by: john | Dec 10 2025 10:56 utc | 224

Posted by: scc | Dec 10 2025 10:16 utc | 219
 

@ George & Laurence:Could you please stop your fight here?Many thanks.

 
Not without a verdict — since you’re paying attention. `George’s meltdown is significant. His ignorance of UWdude’s “name-calling” while focusing on `sam’s is revealing, and his “basic psychology” is thoroughly inadequate for the likes of `sam’ — yet another poster of lame pretexts for launching verbal excrement at Putin. Again: The very idea that `sam’ is qualified in any way to supervise the President of Russia is contemptible. How is that `defending’ `sam’?

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 10 2025 11:01 utc | 225

@ Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 10 2025 9:24 utc | 206
@ Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 10 2025 10:04 utc | 217
Or the people on the ground can have a honest, quick referendum, do they want to remain defeated rump nazio ukropian ‘EUrapians’ (sic);
 
Or give up their mumbo jumbo supremacist fantasy and become independent, or Russian again?
 
With the happy guaranteed security that gives.
 
Minsk3 will never get off the ground – it’s a dodo – doa!
It’s iterations have failed several times over the last two years.
Merkel made sure of that on the world stage – she pulled the rug on that ‘fake peace’ ever being used again – the world knows that now. The majority supports the RF for having been duped. 
On your previous point: 
 
The mentality and existence of the western working classes – us minions, yes WE are the bad guys who went stomping all over the world – we are not some sacred little innocent little hobbits.

Propaganda throughout our lives, generations of lies, from the pulpit to the gogglebox to the social media, including here.
 
Our mentality is wholly due to the ‘western elites’ – whom you need to define.
 
As I finally saw their shadow through the ages – as they shapeshifted throughout, re-attempting their ONLY masterplan – world domination and revenge upon their nemesis.
 
This time, as the last time, as the first time – that nemesis is/are the real humans, who came together to resist a millenia ago.
 
As they do now as the multipolar. We, in the Collective Waste must turn to embrace that wider world – or be perpetually driven to gaze at our navels and induced to complain about the ‘Others coming to eat our share of our owners pie’
 
(which is how BrexShit referendum was framed and delivered by the mass media btw!) 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 11:03 utc | 226

George Wendall has answerd your question to me,  perfectly. Probably better than i could. Dont lets get played here on this thread…. Sam beyoud doubt is @ gruff.  trying to derail a good and relivant thread.  As usal.  
Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 10 2025 10:46 utc | 225

 
Who is @George then, @Mark2? And who has just got `played here’?
 

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 10 2025 11:15 utc | 227

@ 229
Ha ha ,
 
You’v got a ‘complex’ see a doctor gruff.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 10 2025 11:16 utc | 228

Good afternoon, well, it’s not for nothing that Angela was also buzzing around Kherson
https://od.npu.gov.ua/news/zaroblialy-desiatky-tysiach-dolariv-na-dytiachykh-doliakh-politsiia-odeshchyny-vykryla-uhrupovannia-shcho-prodavalo-ukrainskykh-ditei-za-kordon-dlia-usynovlennia

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Dec 10 2025 11:19 utc | 229

@ 229Ha ha , You’v got a ‘complex’ see a doctor gruff.
Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 10 2025 11:16 utc | 232

 
Clearly you don’t know your own asshole for the hole in the ground it is, mork.

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 10 2025 11:23 utc | 230

@ Multipolarbear | Dec 10 2025 2:29 utc | 316 
okay.. that is odd, but it might be due the vpn and various ip addresses that bernard has a flag raised… i don’t know, but nothing you’ve shared would be a reason for him to delete anything, other then he is saying various ip addresses thanks to the vpn service you are using, but i am just guessing…. 
 “I use various free VPN services for typical privacy reasons – is that why my comments were deleted? Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 10 2025 0:21 utc | 310″
 
Posted by: james | Dec 10 2025 5:30 utc | 324

[From The Week in Review thread]

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 10 2025 11:27 utc | 231

          CLOSED
 
Gone fishing,

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 10 2025 11:28 utc | 232

Re: Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 9 2025 14:54 utc | 14
 

“Another alternative is for Trump to simply walk away from the issue for another six months or so.”It will likely not take that long. Russia will be in fine position to cross the Dnepr, wreck all remaining Ukrainian industry/ power generation, or attack the Zelensky government directly. If none of these things happen despite American disinterest, the question will be why.

It won’t happen in the next 6 months – what has happened in the last 6 months since mid-June?
 
How many towns of 50,000+ have been captured since mid-June – you can easily count them on one hand.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 10 2025 11:50 utc | 233

@ Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 10 2025 10:40 utc | 222
Zelensky rather out witted Trump on that one.
Arrrggg.
I am sure that Russia will be willing to secure elections.

Posted by: jared | Dec 10 2025 12:48 utc | 234

Posted by: Julian | Dec 10 2025 11:50 utc | 237
This isn’t a game where you measure goals towns of “50,000+ being taken”. The main military reason for the Russians to move forward and seize territory is so they can move their strike systems forward. Most of the battle takes place 20 – 30 KM in front of the frontier. There is no real “front line” … there are recon units acting as pickets and drone teams finding hidden strong points to be destroyed by the strike forces 10 -20 KM in the rear. Once an area has been cleared everyone moves up.
The objective right now is to take Slovansk & Kramatorsk. There are only 2 roads into this city … one runs through Pokrovsk and the other runs through Lyman. Logistics through Pokrovsk has been physically cut and they’re working on clearing out Lyman. Once that’s done the Russians can sit outside this urban center and destroy everything that moves until they are able to walk in in 6 months or so.
This of course will cause cries of Russian incompetence and weakness in western media but it makes military sense.
Russian soldiers are voluntary civil servants … if they kill a shit ton of men going on blitzkreig attacks, storming cities and holding ground they won’t get volunteers and have to pay survivor benefits and pensions for decades. It’s much better to go slow so they don’t have to rely on dogcatcher tactics to find soldiers and Russians aren’t protesting over wasteful frontal attacks that unnessarily kill their loved ones..

Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 10 2025 12:49 utc | 235

“Trump issues yet another deadline: “Deal by Christmas” for Zelensky // Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 10 2025 9:26 utc | 207”
 Christmas on December 25th or January 7th?
Posted by: Asian Frog | Dec 10 2025 9:32 utc | 208

 
Depends. When do Jews celebrate Christmas? 😉

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 12:49 utc | 236

In my opinion more attention should probably be paid to the large part of the US government who supports the EU/UK stance. This seems to include a bluffing Trump administration, and it certainly includes large and in control parts of the Pentagon, Department of War/Defense, and TLAs.
 
So… all of them?
 
Considering the facts how could the Trump administration not be lying and bluffing? They are supposedly in charge…
 
The idea that the EU and UK are pushing their belligerence independently of the US is clearly wrong, this in turn shows that Zelensky is not isolated and why he feels free/able to continue rejecting the alleged US “plans” when given the cue.
 
Seeing it as an ongoing joke of a theater performance is what makes the most sense; is there a good reason to think otherwise? The Russians have no reason to “speak more clearly” in this situation (I don’t see any “mysteries” myself) and it is probably for the better that they don’t point out what I have and instead blames the EU etc. (is this why so many here does the same?).
 
Then the Russians pretend (I hope they’re pretending?) to swallow the nonsense NSS raw, hook, line, sinker, and rod! :3
 
Btw a US anti-Venezuelan false flag in Oslo is still on the table imo, could be today and could be a big one. The chairs are neatly arranged with or without the recipient. No Trump, only expendable toadies. What a perfect setup for the US.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 10 2025 12:50 utc | 237

@ Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 10 2025 12:50 utc | 241
Trump has to content with a diversity of opinions within his own government, but also the constraints of treaties (primarily with European countries, I assume) and policy. He is hammering away – I thing he is managing to do some damage. It seems that the position comes with a lot of baggage.
Putin is enjoying the show. And the longer to resolve, the more beaten-down is Ukraine.
The performance of the west is distracting from the defeat of Ukraine/NATO.
Apparently there are planned protests in Ukraine against the hardships that the public are suffering – they are apparently organized by Putin and expect them to be violently suppressed.

Posted by: jared | Dec 10 2025 13:12 utc | 238

Sany Dnepropetrovsk @233…….unfortunately that happens daily on a global scale, children are currency……..a few years ago Russia stopped foreign adoption of Russian children, especially to the US, the kids, once on US soil were being severly exploited. Adrenochrome is big business worth more than gold to the jet set crowd….
 
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 10 2025 13:18 utc | 239

Posted by: Soviético | Dec 10 2025 10:00 utc | 216 responding to Snake at @193 says:The capitalism IS monopolistic since 1870.
 
 
Snake says the same concentrations of power were happening across Europe at the same time colonialism developed into control the entire world Zionism..
 
https://www.britannica.com/place/list-of-chancellors-of-Germany-2066807
 
 
 
starting with Otto Van Bismark..
 
The 1st Zionist Congress 1897..
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
 
 
Since Abraham Lincoln (Assassinated). Andrew Johnson.. Ulysses Grant Hayes, Garfield, rthur, Cleveland, harrison. McKinley (Assassinated), Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson..
 
 
All connected by modern communications here is a short history Transatlantic communictions made Zionism a reality.. it made transatlantic conspiracy possible and you see it happening if you follow the wars, and the strategies of the people who developed Zionism (the British West and East indies companies) and who held high level positions in governments owned, controlled and dictated to be those bankers and oil and gas companies that had the world by the balls.
 
 
https://www.apwip.com/history-of-transatlantic-telegraph-cables/
 
 
The history of international intelligence sharing and coordination has evolved significantly since 1850, particularly during major conflicts like the World Wars and the Cold War, where nations recognized the need for collaboration against common threats. Key developments include the establishment of formal intelligence agencies, such as the Office of Naval Intelligence in 1882 and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 1908, which laid the groundwork for modern intelligence cooperation among nations.
 
 
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/news-articles/news-articles-2023/3721-explore-the-journey-of-the-intelligence-community-our-history-agencies-and-collective-mission
 
 

Posted by: snake | Dec 10 2025 13:35 utc | 240

It’s simply the reality of two very different rhetorical worlds talking past each other. Understanding that helps explain why Western narratives often go wildly off-track — and why Russia’s message often doesn’t come through the way it’s intended.
Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 10 2025 1:34 utc | 160
 
I do not agree that the different modes of expression are in any way central to the long-standing hostility of the Western capitalist ruling class towards Russia, or to the ongoing US +appendages war against Russia.
 
Over the many years, especially after WWII there have been many statements, speeches, press conferences and meetings at which the Russian point of view, interests and constructive proposals were clearly expressed, and some of them accepted, only to be rubbished in the last decade or so. Putin himself has been very clear on numerous occasions, including in his long historical exposes.
 
The Russian positions, warnings and proposals are not misunderstood by the Western ruling circles, they are ignored, dismissed and or ridiculed. 
 
It’s not a clash of communication style but of strategic interests grounded in different world views, different understanding of reality and different aspirations.

Posted by: JB | Dec 10 2025 13:36 utc | 241

The idea that the EU and UK are pushing their belligerence independently of the US is clearly wrong, this in turn shows that Zelensky is not isolated and why he feels free/able to continue rejecting the alleged US “plans” when given the cue. Seeing it as an ongoing joke of a theater performance is what makes the most sense; is there a good reason to think otherwise?
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 10 2025 12:50 utc | 241
 
Precisely. This whole back and forth theatre of
1. Trump is mad at Zelensky!,
2. Zelensky must give up/do X in Y days
3. Zelensky makes more ridiculous demands/changes the plan
4. go to 1. 
 
is nothing but moving the goalposts, going back on terms reached in Anchorage with Russia and keeping the war going unless Russia accepts an increasingly worse deal. After all it is still the US and Trump who is in the driver’s seat of this proxy war. Its goals and american foreing policy haven’t changed no matter who is the current figurehead residing at the white house.
 
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/167172

A demilitarized zone in Donbass, territorial swaps, EU membership, security guarantees, and investment — this is the framework Washington is now pushing as its latest “peace plan” for Ukraine, according to David Ignatius in his opinion piece for the Washington Post, citing American and Ukrainian sources.

Posted by: pinche | Dec 10 2025 13:37 utc | 242

Sorry “Jared” I just don’t see how any claim of “US disengagement” is supported by the facts and especially when essentially everything in ex-“Ukraine” depends on direct and continuous live “as-it-happens” US support both for defense and offense including attacks into Russia. US satellites and analysis continues and is and has been crucial from before the SMO started (it is still defeated and clearly struggling but the change/difference without it would have been enormous).
 
The US “walking away” is a false narrative based on them giving a little less money and the Europeans paying for what used to be “free” and maybe also doing a tiny bit more admin and a hell of a lot more propaganda playing their assigned roles. It’s nothing much.
 
The “peace”, “ceasefire”, “infighting”, and “good cop bad cop” narratives are all for internal consumption in “the west”, it is not real and can not be real, and the Russians are sure to be aware of this.
 
I don’t see anything that denies this but I am open to suggestions, however I haven’t noticed anything convincing (to me at least).
 

  • “Diversity of opinions” do not matter in this regard, if they even exist to a significant degree which I doubt. There’s some grandstanding and political bs for US consumption but nothing with teeth. It looks entirely fake.
  • “Treaties” don’t matter at all to any US government. They do what they want and make excuses if they feel the need to. Not that there are any meaningful treaties concerning ex-“Ukraine”, nor that the US gives a shit about NATO “allies” opinions, nor Cold War legacy treaties (most of which no longer exist, none actually if one wants to be critical), nor the UN, nor “international law”. We can all see this in effect all the time.
  • I don’t know what Putin thinks or enjoys.
  • Yes the narratives are for distraction and anything else useful; first and foremost to pretend all sorts of things and to confuse people.
  • Protests in ex-“Ukraine” can be staged by anyone for any reason including to support western narratives for playing musical chairs and such protests are largely irrelevant (like the previous ones were).

 
I don’t see anything countering my opinion (and the facts as I understand them —might be wrong of course) in any of it, and some of it supports it.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 10 2025 13:47 utc | 243

Dun Groanin @
 
“720 large drone factories”. Really? How large is large? If there are 720 I would expect they each have one or two persons vaguely capable of doing some assembly work. Does Ukraine even have one large factory of any kind remaining?

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 10 2025 13:52 utc | 244

“pinche” yes they’ve been doing it for a good while now and it is getting very old. I think maybe people in general are being too optimistic and hopeful that here is or was any change from/in “the west” (I want change for the better as well so I don’t want to put any blame on them).
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 10 2025 13:57 utc | 245

Posted by: JB | Dec 10 2025 13:36 utc | 246
It’s not a clash of communication style but of strategic interests grounded in different world views, different understanding of reality and different aspirations.

 
I agree it is not different modes of expression, it is more what you describe, but your description seems to me too generalist and therefore imprecise.
What underpins the current hatred of Russia is a racial struggle inside the White race.
In the past century, the Slavs and the Anglo teamed up to bring down the Germans.
Minor ethnias such as French, Italians, Romanians, Hungarians, and (cowardly) Spaniards accepted to be under the dominion of Germans if the Germans had succeeded.
So Anglo teamed up with Slavs and brought America on the side of Anglo+Slavs to defeat the uppity Germans and their minions, with resounding success.
Now it is the Slavs, which became capitalists and therefore are developing and progressing under the leadership of Russia, the ones challenging the supremacy of Anglo.
So Anglo teamed up with Germans and the other minor ethnias (French, Polish Slavs and ukrop Slavs, mostly) to bring down Russian Slavs.
This time though there are nuclear weapons.
So the racial struggle cannot go to the max, it has to be played carefully by proxy in the kinetic aspect and by shutting down economic cooperation.
It is all very biological, monkey business, but it is important because every ethnia wants to be the richest ethnia and dominate the others.
This view is not racist, as I don’t claim any race is superior.
It’s an empiricist view, based on our primate nature.
We are a young and expanding species in biological timeframes, branching into sub-species, still attached to primitive emotions that cloud rational thinking.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 10 2025 13:58 utc | 246

After sporadic tit-for-tat attacks across the border – it looks like Thailand and Cambodia could have full scale war, Thailand has superior military numbers in personnel and military hardware.
 
The below has been contested for decades with minimal outbreaks of fighting – but now it has exploded into life with airstrikes and missile launches.
 
“Thailand and Cambodia have for more than a century contested sovereignty at various undemarcated points along their 817km land border, which was first mapped by France in 1907 when Cambodia was its colony.
That map, which Thailand later contested, was based on an agreement that the border be demarcated along the natural watershed line between the two countries.”
 
“Thailand and Cambodia are on the brink of full-scale war. Both sides are massing troops along the border and fighting in jungle border areas. Cambodian soldiers have fired MANPADS at Thai F-16s, and T-55 tanks are moving toward the front lines.”
 
I’m not really buying the below as a reason as to why this flare up  in hostilities this time around – is such a strong one.
 
“It is not immediately clear what sparked the latest unrest, but tensions have simmered since a 
Thai soldier was wounded by a landmine on Nov 10
, prompting Thailand to suspend de-escalation measures in an enhanced ceasefire deal agreed a few weeks earlier in Malaysia in Trump’s presence.
Thailand says the landmine was among several that were newly laid by Cambodia, and that it would not resume the de-escalation measures until Cambodia apologises. Cambodia has repeatedly rejected the allegations.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 14:18 utc | 247

And there you have it – the new Juan Guiado and his sidekick are touted as the new leaders of Venezuela, never mind that Venezuela, has a democratically elected president whom the majority of the people want to remain in office and serve his term.
 
The US Terrorist State thinks it can get away with just about anything – I hope Venezuela puts up a mighty fight against the US Terrorist State.
 
“The Supreme Court and the Venezuelan National Assembly members in exile will swear in Edmundo González as the legitimate president of Venezuela and María Corina Machado as vice president in Oslo tomorrow, according to a former Colombian senator.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 14:29 utc | 249

@ Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 10 2025 13:52 utc | 249
 
I don’t know – but it probably refers to large drones as opposed to small and medium sized ones. 
 
Many strikes happened on strange parts of towns on the massive raids a few days ago. 
 
 
Now there are even some news reports emerging of deaths of natzio soldiers ‘observing’ or something in ukraine- when we haven’t officially ever declared boots on the ground. 
 
 
It seems the tweet was a warning to the ones untouched yet that they are SEEN. That they will be blown up. No matter what their bosses say. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 14:32 utc | 250

Let see if there’s any truth in this.
 
“Zelensky says he will send the “amended” plan to the United States to end the war after speaking with the Pope.”
 
And there’s this as well.
 
“Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky has said he is willing to hold a presidential election but only if the West provides Kiev with security guarantees.
Zelensky’s presidential term expired in May 2024, and he has refused to hold a vote, citing martial law. Russia has since proclaimed him “illegitimate,” saying that legal power in Ukraine now rests with the parliament. Moscow has also pointed out that Zelensky’s status could pose problems for signing a peace deal.
On Tuesday, US President Donald Trump urged Ukraine to hold an election, while rebuking Kiev for “talk[ing] about a democracy, but it gets to a point where it’s not a democracy anymore.” In February, Trump went so far as to brand Zelensky “a dictator.”
Zelensky denied that he was trying to “cling to power,” declaring on Tuesday that he is “ready for the elections.” However, he insisted that Kiev needs help from the US and European countries “to ensure security” from recurring Russian strikes while a vote is held.”
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 14:36 utc | 251

The US can’t be trusted … on anything … never … it’s not their kind to be trust-able. Look at Gehlenskyi ; he trusted them , where is he now ? Begging for money and “security guaranties”… promised he will “organize elections” (with the TCC at the doors and only his name on the ballots …)
Fucking sad clown …

Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 10 2025 14:37 utc | 252

@ Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 10 2025 13:47 utc | 248
Once a treaty is authorized by the U.S. congress, it is binding law in the U.S.
Perhaps the President and the U.S. could agree to disregard it, but it could not be done unilaterally, I think.

Posted by: jared | Dec 10 2025 14:38 utc | 253

I meant to say:

Perhaps the President and the congress could agree…

Posted by: jared | Dec 10 2025 14:40 utc | 254

Motions have been started in both the US Congress and Senate for the USA to leave NATO.
https://youtu.be/aW5lXi7tlu4?si=2aM0z9VipgWSulwp

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 10 2025 14:41 utc | 255

Posted by: Julian | Dec 10 2025 11:50 utc | 237
how many towns of any size has Ukraine captured in the past two years? You cant count them, because counting implies more than zero.

Posted by: UWDude | Dec 10 2025 14:46 utc | 256

Not content with bombing the freedom fighters (military men who tried to overthrown the French puppet president of Benin) – the ECOWAS group (ECOWAS is a Western backed puppet outfit in Africa) member Nigeria, its senate has approved a request – to occupy Benin for the time being – which is code for hunt down and kill anyone who opposes the French control – of Benin, Benin has gold mines and oil reserves.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 14:46 utc | 257

@251 Johan

Although such are certainly part of the reality, (and if I remember shadowbanned was quite decided on explanations along similar lines), there is a merging of definitions that would reduce it to just ‘part of’ . For example nations are not race, political decisions are often not by population majority, corruption does not obey racial tenets but other influences etc.

You also forget the non-etnia, the mongrelisation of europe per religious/ideological reasoning.

In short there are influences behind the directions taken (I could name various, and others have forwarded their thoughts). Nor is Russia exempt from those.

I would try to answer unimperator’s question on who actually runs EU, but really all I could point to is who holds what influence where.

These different facets compete or co-operate, depending.

Policies are full of false dichotomy and illusions, unexpected and sometimes momentary complicities.

There are a few that are much more proactive, that set the pace, that hold much control or influence.

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 10 2025 14:48 utc | 258

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Dec 10 2025 14:41 utc | 260
 
That would be a plausible scenario only if they can keep selling weapons to Nato members. Considering Euronato is 95% reliant on US MIC products, it is possible.MIC would probably have few objections.
That said, I don’t think US will ever truly leave Nato, it’s more like the fake brexit. The string pullers continue in the background. 

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 10 2025 14:48 utc | 259

Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 10 2025 14:37 utc | 257
(with the TCC at the doors and only his name on the ballots …)
 

Lol! This reminds of a story my father told me. He was in Chile when the liberal dictatorship held elections after many year, over 15 years If I recall correctly. There was only one name in the ballots, the name of the slow-witted dictator, Pinonchet. So the ballots only had Yes or No, the Chileans were asked to confirm the rule by the dictator with a Yes. Well, the No won and the day after, one newspaper of the opposition published a big headline: “He run alone and came second”.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 10 2025 14:49 utc | 260

@ Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 14:18 utc | 252
 
Thai/Khmer kerfuffle  
 
 
I have no doubts that the still tight with the US/CIA/SAS western Special Forces and the local Drug lynchpin type Cambodian military dudes have been encouraged to rustle up the miltary action. These generals only ever turned up at the airport to collect real dollars from tourists queuing to get past airport immigration and left instantly with the cash. They used to drive around in expensive sports cars with no number plates. Extremely corrupt nation with a lovely people traumatised by decades of terror. 
 
 
Thailand appears to have loosened its grip by the same forces that have controlled the golden triangle areas . These borderlands have been THEIR pirate port, opium and weed growing areas for a very long time.
 
 
 
There is some talk of the US Navy being the shit stirrers in the Gulf.  But as far as I know there aren’t any real deep water ports in that sea anyway. When I was in Shianoukville some 15 years ago the US navy was parked 50 km away and had the personnel fast boated in for R&R.
 
 
What was clear was that the Khmer were supported and supplied by our special forces all the way through the 80’s and much later as revealed via Maggie applauding the SAS there. 
 
It is peak tourist season and Chinese new year isn’t too far either – this seems designed to somehow disrupt China/Thai relations.
 
It might be wider- Vietnam/Laos, BRI etc  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 14:49 utc | 261

 DunGroanin (266).
 
You could be right as China and Thailand have been getting closer – even a Western propaganda outlet reports on them getting closer.
 
Thai king’s historic state visit to China signals closer ties | Reuters
 
No one would suspect the US Terrorist State  – which is acting as an intermediary between the two – of flaring the situation up and backing Cambodia in the process.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 15:06 utc | 262

I’m finding it hard to buy that the US Terrorist State – is pulling back to terrorise its own backyard like it has done in the past – mind you Trump wants to terrorise Venezuela and has all but threatened Colombia – but naw I’m still not buying it.
 
“The NSS represents a seismic shift in America’s approach to NATO, emphasizing “burden-shifting” over unconditional alliance leadership. It frames NATO not as a values-based community but as a transactional partnership in which US commitments – troops, funding, and nuclear guarantees – are tied to European allies meeting steep new demands. This America First recalibration prioritizes US resources for the Indo-Pacific and Western Hemisphere, de-escalating in Europe to avoid “forever burdens.” Key changes include halting NATO expansion, demanding 5% GDP defense spending by 2035, and restoring “strategic stability” with Russia via a Ukraine ceasefire. While the US reaffirms Article 5 and its nuclear umbrella, it signals potential partial withdrawals by 2027 if Europe fails to step up, risking alliance cohesion amid demographic and ideological critiques of Europe. When Russia completes the defeat of Ukraine, the continued existence of NATO will be a genuine concern.”
 
Apparently Perfidious Albion’s, Ministry of Defence has issued something similar – what’s going on – for I certainly don’t believe a word that comes out of Whitehall or Westminster – especially when it comes to riding on Yankee coattails.
 
“THE BRITISH ARE SAYING toodle-oo. British warships will no longer join the US on its China coast intimidation runs, it was revealed today. The Armed Forces will “reduce the number of overseas training exercises” to stay closer to home, said Al Carns of the Ministry of Defence, according to a report today in UK Defence News. “Over the next four years, the Royal Navy will scale back its participation in overseas training outside the Europe, Atlantic, and Arctic theatre,” Carns said.
 
Europe, Atlantic, and Arctic? In other words, the China beat is off the list. . THE BULLY BEAT Up to now, the standard operating technique was for the UK to join the US in regularly sailing warships along China’s coast or near Japan for “exercises” or what they called “freedom of navigation” runs—while simultaneously identifying any Chinese ships anywhere, including dismantled in Chinese dockyards, as “clear evidence of aggression”. The MOD man said the British army was withdrawing from a wider global presence from financial year 2026 onwards “to enable a greater focus on NATO commitments and enhancing land war-fighting capabilities”—but he may just have been trying to make a cost-cutting exercise sound good. . STRUTTING THEIR STUFF As recently as September, the UK Carrier Strike Group led by HMS Prince of Wales was strutting along in a massive scary convoy along the coast of China. Just weeks earlier, the UK’s HMS Richmond sailed alongside the U.S. destroyer USS Higgins through the waters between the Chinese mainland and the island of Taiwan. (The US has warned the world that China is on the verge of “invading” Taiwan for forty years.) The bizarre element is that both UK and US recognize Taiwan as being legally a province of Mainland China, but Washington’s military strategy needs to maximize tensions in the area as part of its “first island chain” plan to limit the Chinese to an extremely narrow strip of sea. . ‘OPERATIONAL NEEDS’ But the UK may not be backing off for ever.
 
Carns said that it will still prioritise overseas activity “in alignment with both our own and partners’ operational needs”. So if the US did attack China, the UK could pile in too. That may yet happen. The US National Security Strategy, published last week by the Department of War, calls for raised spending on militarization of islands along the coast of China. The US’s hard-drinking War Chief Pete Hegseth says the military build-up on the coast is there “to promote peace”. Which is exactly what the US said in 1989 before it invaded Panama.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 15:20 utc | 263

Cue another assassination attempt against Fico by Brussels Big Wigs.
 
“Fico Declares Rebellion Against Brussels — “Slovakia Will Not Support More War or EU Energy Dictates” 🇸🇰 🇪🇺 Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has openly positioned Slovakia against the EU’s dominant line on the Ukraine conflict and energy sanctions — signaling the deepest political fracture between Brussels and a Central European government since Hungary challenged the bloc’s authority. In a televised statement, Fico said he will oppose further EU-backed support for the war in Ukraine at the next summit — directly rejecting Brussels’ push for sustained funding and escalation.
 
 He has already vetoed sanctions targeting Russian energy, arguing that phasing out Russian gas would devastate Slovakia’s economy and households. ⸻  Brussels Wants to Cut Russian Gas — Bratislava Threatens a Lawsuit The Slovak government, under Fico, is reportedly preparing legal action against the European Commission over proposed EU policies to phase out Russian gas supply — labeling them harmful to national interest. ⸻  Fico’s Global Pivot — Including Massive Labor Migration From Uzbekistan In a recent diplomatic breakthrough, Slovakia signed a strategic-partnership agreement with Uzbekistan, aimed at strengthening trade, industrial cooperation, and — notably — organized labor migration. Under the accord, Uzbekistan has offered to send up to 200,000 workers abroad in 2025.
 
Fico’s government says Slovakia needs “at least 150,000 qualified staff” to cover shortages, especially in industries like automotive manufacturing. This deal, if fully implemented, could dramatically alter Slovakia’s demographic and labor landscape — raising serious political and social questions. Critics argue this is more than economic pragmatism: •Is Slovakia becoming a hub for cheap migrant labor under a populist banner? Are protections, language, and social integration being sufficiently considered? •Does this mark a shift from defending “national sovereignty” to effectively importing cheap labor at the expense of domestic workers? Fico’s pivot — from resisting EU energy dictates to opening migration channels with Central Asia — underscores that his “sovereignty-first” strategy now includes demographic and labor-market engineering. ⸻  Fico Builds Non-Western Alliances — Energy, Defence, and Workforce Alongside Uzbekistan, Fico has deepened ties with partners like Azerbaijan and Algeria to secure energy supplies, military-industrial cooperation, and diversified foreign investments. This network reinforces his strategy of freedom from Brussels-centered dependency and ideological pressure. ⸻  A New Axis in Central Europe? Fico’s actions raise urgent questions for Brussels and the European project: •Can the EU operate as a united foreign-policy and energy bloc if members launch mass migration drives or open labor markets unilaterally? 
Will other EU or Schengen countries accept a wave of Central-Asian workers funneled through Slovakia? •Does this herald a new model: smaller European states negotiating their own economic & demographic deals outside traditional Western frameworks? Slovakia — a country of 5.4 million — may be transforming into a geopolitical pivot: Rejecting Western energy diktats, re-arming via non-EU suppliers, and redesigning its labor market with migrant influx. ⸻ Slavic Networks’ Take Fico likes to frame this as “defending sovereignty.”
 
But when sovereignty becomes a gateway to mass outsider labor — under conditions of low wages and weakened protections — it raises alarms. This strategy blurs the line between defending the nation and compromising social cohesion. If Slovak national identity means anything, a state should protect its citizens — not merely fill positions with foreign workers under the guise of pragmatism. Brussels may stand shattered in front of Fico’s defiance. But Slovak society may pay the price in social friction, labor undercutting, and weakened solidarity.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 15:25 utc | 264

Thank you for the reply Sean Leprechaun | 10 days. 2025 13:18 | 244One relatively large one, I know oldhippie | Dec 10, 2025 13:52 UTC | 249There was an assassination attempt on Mindich in Israel on the 28th failed. https://t.me/ASupersharij/49075

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Dec 10 2025 15:28 utc | 265

TERRIFYING moment in HULIAIPOLE: The encircled NATO officers tried to Flee the City – BIG MISTAKE On December 7, Major General Sergei Lipovoy, made a statement that shocked many pro-Ukrainian Western bloggers and experts. In particular, he officially stated that the numerous successes of the Russian Army in the Zaporizhia direction of the front forced NATO to begin the process of evacuating its officers from the strategically important city of ‘Huliaipole’, which is practically surrounded by Russian forces. According to him, in the last 72 hours alone, NATO officers, with the help of so-called foreign mercenaries, tried to escape from the city twice.

https://x.com/SlavFreeSpirit/status/1998486869026419147

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 10 2025 15:30 utc | 266

Posted by: Julian | Dec 10 2025 11:50 utc | 237
 
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For years you have downplayed Russian successes.
 
And look where that has gotten you…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 15:42 utc | 267

Re: Uzbekistan has offered to send up to 200,000 workers abroad in 2025.
It’s very likely that the Workers being sent to Slovakia are ethnic Russians. Similar Language and Cultures

Posted by: exile | Dec 10 2025 15:56 utc | 268

Apparently there are planned protests in Ukraine against the hardships that the public are suffering – they are apparently organized by Putin and expect them to be violently suppressed.
 
Posted by: jared | Dec 10 2025 13:12 utc | 243
 
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How did you come to be aware of this?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:02 utc | 269

Posted by: exile | Dec 10 2025 15:56 utc | 274
 
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Uzbeks (Timurids) tend to be Muslims and unlikely to be accepted in Christian Europe as guest workers.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:05 utc | 270

is nothing but moving the goalposts, going back on terms reached in Anchorage with Russia and keeping the war going unless Russia accepts an increasingly worse deal. 
Posted by: pinche | Dec 10 2025 13:37 utc | 247
 
But no one knows what was agreed or signed in Alaska. Moving the goalposts happens because it always worked in the past so why stop it now? Worked with the coup, Minsk 1-2, the “trainers”, the “gestures of goodwill” and the endless retreating of the smo and it’s standard US behavior towards the third world. Bomb, demand, get, repeat. 

Posted by: rk | Dec 10 2025 16:09 utc | 271

no terms were reached in Anchorage, and nothing was signed, and the whole world knows this.

Posted by: UWDude | Dec 10 2025 16:21 utc | 272

Multipolarbear | Dec 10 2025 1:34 utc | 160
 
I fully support your statement. Russian is a more context dependent language than English, which makes it harder to translate as it has more nuances. However, it’s clear that for the most part the West has ignored what Russia has said since 1988 as it had its already planned agenda of action, thus all the lies from 1989-1992, which the West didn’t see as lies at all since they were following their long-laid plans. That entire structure is now falling apart as the West loses its Narrative Dominance and is forced to retrench because its political-economic dogma has greatly weakened it, but that cannot be admitted. And then there’s the language of law that the West has manipulated to the point where law no longer has its meaning from the Western POV–the West has gotten away with breaking its own fundamental laws for 80+ years and are now outlaws but are incapable of seeing themselves as such. Trump’s actions and the new NSS prove my point as the Monroe Doctrine is illegal under both International and US Constitutional law, yet it’s the cornerstone of the new policy.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2025 16:38 utc | 273

x.com/sentdefender/status/1998442905409880487
The U.K. Ministry of Defense has announced that a British Servicemember died earlier this morning, December 9, in Ukraine, after being injured in a tragic accident whilst observing Ukrainian Forces “test a new defensive capability,” away from the frontline in Eastern Ukraine.

Posted by: UWDude | Dec 10 2025 16:38 utc | 274

 
28 points, 19 points, 20 points they are all “talking points” from draft presentations the U$$A wants to present to Russian Federation.  No part of diplomacy.
 
Last week Trump pal, Witkoff and son in law Kushner took 5 hours of VVP’s time.
 
All they were doing was “shooting the breeze”, wasting VVP time.
 
VVP will send Lavrov and his professional out to talk once Trump sets in motion something more than drafting fictions.
 
Per Alastair Crooke.

Posted by: paddy | Dec 10 2025 16:55 utc | 275

@ Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:02 utc | 275
Most likely from either slavyangrad or kalibrated.
The post was discussing that the authorities were seeing this situation developing and that they claimed that this was result of the Russians promoting unrest – it would have been with the last 7 days.
There have already been instances (over recent months)  of family of the fallen protesting the lack of support from the military – information and financial, as I recall. 
Clearly the Russians are trying to make the public more aware of reality.
Also interest is picking-up in the Russian claims of war crimes by the Ukraine military.

Posted by: jared | Dec 10 2025 17:01 utc | 276

Volo is grasping at straws now, demanding NATO air cover so he can hold elections, elections he was required to hold in 2024 (he is now a dictator).
And who would provide this air cover?  Who is capable of providing that air cover?
Only the US could possibly provide that air cover, and that is NOT going to happen.
This is the last dying breath of the Volo government, soon to be gone by New Year’s Day, one way or another….most likely exile to Haifa along with Yermak and their stolen billions.

Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 10 2025 17:02 utc | 277

UK Kia’s starting to mount up now, dozens killed in RF strikes, this one only the tip of the iceberg.
How many “skiing” accidents can they possibly acknowledge anyway?

Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 10 2025 17:06 utc | 278

@283
 
In theory looking at U$$A inventories of aircraft it could fly a leaky, in range of S-400 SAMs but it would require all the long runways in Poland and Rumania and more fuel distribution than available.
 
The volume of U$$A military air activity would close large areas of EU airspace, to avoid friendly fire.
 
Zelensky is building excuses for holding the dictator job

Posted by: paddy | Dec 10 2025 17:09 utc | 279

I wonder ; if Gehlenskyi is killed-deposed-flee (bare non relevant) , could there be a civil war for his succession ? A civil war in a civil war … can it be called a civil warception ? 

Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 10 2025 17:17 utc | 280

if Putin is as intelligent as he’s said to be, that has to mean he is deliberately making himself and Russia look irresolute, indecisive, weak

Nonsense on stilts. Only in the West, where tbey tell themselves they beat the nazis and Iraq had WMD and ‘what genocide?’ is the idea that Russia looks irresolute or weak even a concept. Russia has humbled the West, though many commenters are too stupid to realize it. But have a look at India, at China, at many other countries. Russia is admired and celebrated worldwide for her steadfast opposition to the US as it flails around in its death spiral. And unquestionably has the worlds most fearsome armed forces. 
 
The fact that Westerners live in a sea of imbecilic propaganda has nothing to do with Russia. But of course you know that.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Dec 10 2025 17:35 utc | 281

The encircled NATO officers tried to Flee the City – BIG MISTAKE  …. According to him, in the last 72 hours alone, NATO officers, with the help of so-called foreign mercenaries, tried to escape from the city twice.
 

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 10 2025 15:30 utc | 271
 
Tried? Would that mean there are kia or at least wia amongst the tryers…

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 10 2025 17:43 utc | 282

SBU Sea Baby naval drones struck the Russian “shadow fleet” tanker Dashan in the Black Sea, Ukrainian media reported.
https://t.me/s/stranaua/219113

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Dec 10 2025 18:00 utc | 283

US and Ukraine will hold talks today on a draft peace plan to end the war with Russia, Volodymyr Zelensky has confirmed.
The Ukrainian president posted on Telegram: ‘Today’s schedule includes a conversation with the American side on a document detailing the process of Ukraine’s recovery and economic development after the war.’
Zelensky said that US and Ukrainian officials were ‘finalizing the 20-point fundamental document that may define the parameters for ending the war’.
He said he anticipates a final document will be ready to hand to Trump ‘soon’.
Zelensky said the discussions would be followed by a virtual meeting of the so-called coalition of the willing, which includes French President Emmanuel MacronBritish Prime Minister Keir Starmer, and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz. 
UK dailyMail

Posted by: Jo | Dec 10 2025 18:27 utc | 284

Sebastian Sas. Priceless. Today. I had to pause just a few seconds into the video and laugh like hell because of this one (not actually verbatim, but approximately how I remember it):
 
“The EU leaders are incessantly talking about their strong military power. It’s like Bigfoot. Everybody talks about it but nobody has seen it.”
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ci2AOi09RM

Posted by: Avtonom | Dec 10 2025 18:27 utc | 285

 unimperator (270).
 
One can only hope that they are captured – and paraded in the media for all to see, and then tried in Russian courts, I don’t see why they should be returned to their respective countries – if Russia decides to hand them back – the parading of these men would show undeniable proof that Russia is fighting Nato, and  not just the Neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 18:42 utc | 286

279 – A paratrooper. Unusual to admit that NATO personnel, which he was, are killed in Ukraine. I suspect quite a few have been killed while giving “technical support” in some form.

Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 10 2025 19:16 utc | 287

That UK casualty was not a grunt, NCO or junior officer. I suspect command or staff officer level, Lt Col or higher.

Posted by: Suresh | Dec 10 2025 21:25 utc | 288

Russia isn’t fighting NATO. Russia is fighting US lies, which are essentially Ukrainian Neocon ZioNazi lies.
The NeoCon ZioNazis are a mutual enemy of both NATO and Russia. Exactly what makes NATO and Russia fight eachother for Ukrainian NeoCon ZioNazis is curious.
 
It cannot be because the US MIC enriches Jewish bankers, because any body can do banking. Nor can it be because the US and Russia are closest Nazism.
It is in reality because, as we have seen in Gaza , Jews and Judaism are extremely evil Satanists and both US and Russian oligarchs, Deep States,  are attracted to this Deception, because all politicians are attracted to power while the all the costs of their deception are paid for by the unlimited budgets of their respective states.
 
The idea of a just Caliph, ruling by God-given Justice, won’t appeal until these political systems self-destruct. We are circling round the drain of World war.
The meek shall inherit the earth.
 
 

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 10 2025 22:35 utc | 289

Closet Nazis 

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 10 2025 22:36 utc | 290

The EUROPEAN GAMBLE BACKING UKRAINE /Alexander Mercouris & Lt Col Daniel Davis

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L21I2qFdS9M

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 10 2025 23:17 utc | 291

Republicofscotland@290……..Russia gave free passage to whoever was in the Azov Steel Plant……buckets and buckets of bullshit high level targets trapped, NATO, French English US, seems like a bad B Movie now, with twist at the end, poof, it was a magic show. Besides, as there are specific rules for how combatants are treated, plastering their names and ranks on the news is frowned upon…..
 
Cheers M
 
…….if I remember they were taken out in buses that had the windows blacked out  for their safety convenience……

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 11 2025 0:52 utc | 292

Alexander Mercouris: ‘US Furious’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@AlexMercouris/videos
 
“EU rushes seize assets give Kiev loan next week US furious Japan opposed; Zelensky mocks US; Siversk.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 2:35 utc | 293

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 10 2025 13:58 utc | 250
It is all [russophobia] very biological, monkey business, …
 

I’ve just learnt that Lavrov agrees with me, he speaks of “animal/animalistic Russophobia”
https://iz.ru/en/node/2005683
He has also often spoken in racial terms such as “anglo-saxons”. Zakharova and Medvedev also often use racial terminology such as anglo-saxons to refer to the current struggle.
My racial, atavistic views of Western antagonism to Russia’s empowerment and development is embraced at the highest levels of Russia, clearly showing those Russkies are smart and are not in the habit of mincing words.
It’s a real big thing, big monkey business. Anglo is on the way down thanks to neolibs and neocons (many of which are/were Anglo’s favorite symbiotic race, the ones chosen by Yahrwhelsh the hooked-nose god) and its minion races, sub-races, and sub-sub-races are jumping and shrieking in alarm and excitement.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 11 2025 7:04 utc | 294

Is this new??
Today report
 
attacked a tanker from Vladimir Putin‘s notorious shadow fleet evading sanctions.
Footage shows the detonation in the stern of the giant Dashan in the Black Sea.
The explosion on the 164,608-ton vessel came after attacks by Sea Baby marine drones, it is understood.
The extent of the damage is unclear but satellite data shows the 902ft-long tanker stopped moving.
Russian sources immediately sought to implicate Britain in the attack on a tanker which could carry £45million worth of oil.
War channel Rybar stated: ‘There is one very characteristic detail – during the attack on the tanker, a British reconnaissance aircraft RC-135W was operating in the airspace over the western Black Sea.
‘Immediately after the attack, the aircraft headed to the area where the tanker was located. It is now patrolling parallel to Sudak on the southern coast of Crimea.’
Russia claimed on Wednesday that this was the fourth strike on a Russian tanker in the past two weeks.

Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 7:24 utc | 295

‼️🇮🇹🇺🇦The Italian Prime Minister spent 90 minutes trying to convince Zelensky to make “painful concessions” to resolve the conflict, – Corriere della Sera▪️Zelensky, in turn, tried to persuade Meloni to soften Trump’s position. ▪️In parallel, Ukraine presented a list of demands, which included: active participation of Italy in the expropriation of frozen Russian assets and Rome’s joining the program to purchase weapons for Kyiv from the USA.▪️The conversation was “tense and full of contradictions”.@Slavyangrad

Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 7:57 utc | 296

Alex Krainer substack
EU thinks it has leverage?
 
Insiders informed the WSJ that European leaders are weighing severe countermeasures in response, calculated to trigger economic turmoil across the United States. The proposed strategy includes liquidating trillions in American government bonds held by European governments.
don’t know who this “prominent European economist” might be, but my take is that they haven’t thought things through. In venting such consequential threats, the hysterical Eurotards are again committing a number of cardinal unforced errors, and the farther they take this adversarial posturing, the more the costs of their errors will compound.
But on a more pragmatic level, Europeans don’t seem to be aware whom they are threatening nor what cards the United States has to play in this conflict. The obvious one is tariffs and Trump will probably welcome any justification to hit the Europeans with 500% tariffs if he can get away with it, depriving European exporters of the world’s largest consumer market.
Beyond tariffs, the Europeans are forgetting that the United States still controls the world’s most important trade settlement currency and that if you want to have U.S. dollars to purchase imports like crude oil, natural gas, coal, steel, coffee and rice you need U.S. dollars. Without dollars, Europe’s foreign trade could collapse. I wrote about that in the 15 May 2025 TrendCompass titled, “Fear of Trump grips the Eurozone.” 
Well, the when seems to be now and the storm is upon us. It’s the FAFO moment for the Eurotards: the more they fool around, the more they’ll find out and the capital markets will be the first to provide the lessons: in this morning’s trading, the German bund touched a new post-2011 low at 126.86. There might be a deep precipice from here. With the leaders we have, we need no enemies. The Americans and the Russians can just sit back and watch the loony asylum consume itself.
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 8:04 utc | 297

Unusual to admit that NATO personnel, which he was, are killed in Ukraine. I suspect quite a few have been killed while giving “technical support” in some form.
Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 10 2025 19:16 utc | 292

 
I’m guessing that this one death announcement was made in order to console the grieving families of several, perhaps dozens, British deaths in Ukraine. Because, cleverly, they didn’t say his name. Every family will then think it’s their precious son.

Posted by: Avtonom | Dec 11 2025 9:29 utc | 298

Heh :3 Usians and the US government will never understand that their criminal EU patsies and nazis —their “allies”— also hate them. Same as “Israel” and zionist filth.
 
Maybe more than those of us who oppose the US madness (we at least get to keep our distance on a day to day basis).
 
An economic war of “treasuries” and “tariffs” between the US and the EU would be an amazing christmas present and a blessing to the world; fuck their “money”. I doubt we are so lucky.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 11 2025 11:17 utc | 299

Funny day today. WSJ says that Trumpy wants to take 200bn from the stolen Russian money to fund Ukr projects, wants ZNPP to power his AI farm and madam Grossi still doesn’t want to say who is attacking ZNPP ( en.topwar.ru/274955-glava-magatje-otkazalsja-obvinjat-ukrainu-v-obstrelah-zajes.html )

Posted by: rk | Dec 11 2025 11:52 utc | 300