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December 11, 2025
Will CentCom Condemn This Blatant Act Of Piracy?

U.S. Central Command – Press Release Nov. 16, 2025

[Country] Forces Illegally Seize Commercial Tanker in International Waters

November 16, 2025
Release Number 20251116-01
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

TAMPA, Fla. – U.S. Central Command forces monitored an incident involving [Country] forces illegally boarding and seizing a Marshall Islands-flagged tanker transiting international waters in the Strait of Hormuz, Nov. 14.

M/V Talara was seized after being boarded by [Country] forces who arrived by helicopter. [Country] operatives then steered the tanker to [Country’s] territorial waters where the ship remains.

[Country’s] use of military forces to conduct an armed boarding and seizure of a commercial vessel in international waters constitutes a blatant violation of international law, undermining freedom of navigation and the free flow of commerce. We call on [Country] to articulate to the international community the legal basis for its actions.

U.S. forces will continue to remain vigilant and work alongside our partners and allies to promote regional peace and stability.

I am now waiting for CentCom’s statement on this:

U.S. seizes oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, escalating tensionsCBS, Dec 10 2025

Washington — The U.S. has seized a large oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, officials said Wednesday, escalating tensions between the two countries. President Trump said he assumes the U.S. will keep the oil.

Bloomberg first reported the oil tanker seizure. Mr. Trump announced the seizure during a roundtable meeting at the White House, saying the tanker was “seized for a very good reason.”

The M/V Talara had been boarded by Iranian forces on November 15 because there was reason to believe that it was carrying Iranian oil that had been illegally smuggled out of the country. On November 19, after the oil on board had been tested, the vessel, its crew and its cargo were released.

The U.S.  move, with the intent to keep the oil the tanker Skipper is carrying, is in contrast just blatant piracy.

Comments

Pirates of the Carribean Redux!
 
 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 11 2025 11:24 utc | 1

This is beyond CENTCOM’s operational space, this is SOUTHCOM area of responsibility. The US is like the UK, a country of piracy. It looks like Trump is staying away from kinetic action against Venezuela for now, relying on provocations like piracy. With people like Elliot Abrams still advising on the LatAm portfolio, expect a Bay of Pigs fiasco if Trump carries through with it. The PDVSA is the lifeblood of the Bolivarian Republic, and this is pure intimidation tactics. Its too bad PDVSA is still very exposed to US markets since its sour heavy crude it well suited to US refineries, its why sanctions are still hurting Venezuela. But BRICS allies are helping to cushion it. Hopefully Venezuela and its allies will weather this Monroe Doctrine episode.

Posted by: USSA Empire Of Lies | Dec 11 2025 11:31 utc | 2

The British Empire, now the US Empire, aka the “Five Eyes”,was built on piracy and opium running. The management changed in WW II, but the business continues on unabashed and unabated.

Posted by: Saturna | Dec 11 2025 11:37 utc | 3

It has all the hallmarks of hypocrisy, but legitimacy is determined by the one who can declare the state of exception and controls the representation. We all know what the “rules-based international order” means—whoever rules sets the rules, and is free to break them. But the Russians are showing the limits here.
 
On the ‘state of exception’, are you alarmed b by the possibility that VDL and Kallas may invoke emergency powers and convert the EU into the Fourth Reich so they get their hands on Russian money? Old motives dressed in fancy duds. Piracy and theft, land-grabs and extortion. Old as the hills.

Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 11 2025 11:39 utc | 4

What I found interesting is that the piracy act
seems to have been performed by US Coast Guard vessel/personnel.
 

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 11 2025 11:44 utc | 5

Nr.5 das Luegenimperium
Die venezolanischen Drogenschattenflotillen werden von der Ex-Weltmacht Nr.1 im Namen der Monroe-Doktrin noch ein Weilchen ins absolute Nichts katapultiert. Nun aber geht’s ans Eingemachte. Die Oele nach China sind ein unverdaulicher Happen. Das wird Schatten auf die Überlebensstrategie des MAGA-Magiers werfen. Mit BRICS ist bald noch weniger zu dealen als jetzt schon.

Posted by: Hatomune | Dec 11 2025 11:52 utc | 6

What act of piracy? the U.S. “executed a seizure warrant,”

 

 

 

Attorney General Pamela Bondi
 

 

 

@AGPamBondi

https://x.com/AGPamBondi/status/1998875795151024337  

with video

Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 11 2025 12:10 utc | 7

It’s good for business and equity markets, and for ousting Maduro regime, so it must be good, right? Let’s ask the “experts”. 
 
“Seizing a tanker is quite a smart move by the U.S. as they try to oust Maduro,” Matt Smith, lead U.S. analyst at Kpler, said in a note. “It is much preferable to starting a conflict, and also hits Venezuela where it hurts — its oil revenue. Shippers will likely be much more cautious and hesitant about loading Venezuelan crude going forward.”
 
Tyler Richey, co-editor of Sevens Report Research, said in an email Wednesday that disruptions to Venezuelan oil “would add another factor to the already present geopolitical fear” that has rattled the oil futures market for more than a year.
“The wild card to watch is whether or not Guyana’s oil production growth is impacted due to disputes over offshore oil resources” with Venezuela, Richey said. However, “barring a material impact on Venezuelan oil exports or Guyana oil production growth expectations, the price impact on oil should be limited.”

Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 11 2025 12:15 utc | 8

Theft is defined as ‘depriving the owner of the use of his property’.  It does not require that the criminal benefit from the theft (served on a Grand Jury and this stuck w/me).  The U.S. is guilty of theft.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Dec 11 2025 12:30 utc | 9

“so they get their hands on Russian money? / Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 11 2025 11:39 utc | 7”
 
They do have their hands on the 300 billion Russian money. Question is : will they default on returning it to the owner?
Whatever the eurotards or Euroclear do with this credit/debit entry, Russia still has a claim on it. Towards each clearing entity (e.g. Euroclear). Defaulting on returning when asked?
 
Then I guess lotsss of people and financial entities worldwide will get their funds out of EU. At the same time. A small door for a lot of people. And with the German economy sinking fast, the confidence in EU banks will be hmmm… reduced.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Dec 11 2025 12:31 utc | 10

Going to develop a theme. Will take a few posts. 
I asked some days ago on one of MoA’s articles for a definition of the ‘Western Hemisphere’. 
There has been no authoritative answer so far. So I’ll start with the following:
 
 
The ‘Western’ Hemisphere tries to establish itself as the ziofascist tyranny from the Artic to the Antarctic . North, Central AND all South America – surrounded by the Artic, North and South Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans.
 
That is a pretty large Escape to The West – Lord of the Rings type fantasy – by the magical ziofascist beings that claim supremacy over the world.
 
Run rabbits run run run – you will never get the whole of South Americas and by war you will lose it in all the countries there.
 
You will not get all the central Americas and you will not get it I. Mexico – you might just get to call the bits of it around Florida the Gulf of Zion but that’s ALL.
 
 
I think the thumbs up symbol is blockquote (what’s up with that btw b?) 
 

DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics)
🇧🇴🇺🇸 Former Bolivian President Luis Arce has been arrested and the timing raises serious questions. AP reports that Arce was detained by anti-corruption police over alleged misuse of public funds and fraudulent contracts tied to development programs. Prosecutors say more arrests could follow, while Arce’s allies call the move blatantly political. What makes this even more striking is the context, Bolivia just restored full diplomatic ties with Israel, and the country’s new U.S.-aligned president, Rodrigo Paz Pereira, has been in office for barely a month. This is the same pattern Latin America has seen repeatedly, a geopolitical pivot toward Washington and Israel followed almost immediately by prosecutions against the previous left-leaning leadership. AP frames it as a corruption crackdown, but coming right after the foreign-policy shift, the optics are weird at best.
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🇮🇱🇧🇴 BREAKING: Israel and Bolivia are officially restoring full diplomatic relations, another major win for the emerging Isaac Accords bloc. Bolivia first severed ties with Israel in 2009 and again in 2014. A brief restoration came in 2019 under the right-wing interim Áñez government, aligning Bolivia back with Israel and the U.S. But in 2020, after the Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) returned to power, relations collapsed once again. Following the October 7 attacks, Bolivia cut all ties with Israel and later joined South Africa’s ICJ genocide case against Israel in 2024. Last month, centrist Rodrigo Paz Pereira became Bolivia’s new president. Under his leadership, La Paz is now reversing course and renewing full diplomatic ties with Israel. Another sign that the Isaac Accords framework is expanding.
Dec 11, 2025 · 1:15 AM UTC

 
 
Hos does that connect – is next. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 11 2025 12:43 utc | 11

@10 MultipolarBear: “What act of piracy? the U.S. “executed a seizure warrant,” ”
US Military: “We call on [Country] to articulate to the international community the legal basis for its actions.”
Pointing to a seizure warrant issued under a domestic jurisdiction doesn’t satisfy the latter argument:  the issuer of that warrant has to articulate how that warrant overwrites the rights that all vessels to enjoy innocent passage in international waters, which Pam Bondi conspicuously failed to do.
If the vessel entered the territorial waters of the issuer of that seizure warrant, sure, OK, that I get: the vessel is in the jurisdiction of that country’s laws, and therefore a seizure warrant is at least arguable.
But in international waters a vessel is sailing under the jurisdiction of its flag country, so unless it is that flag country that has issued that seizure warrant then that vessel is entitled to the right of innocent passage under the freedom of the seas.
And, again, Pam Bondi hasn’t explained how a US-issued “seizure warrant” overrules that right.
 

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Dec 11 2025 12:43 utc | 12

MEANWHILE THEY TRY AND SQUIRM AND BEG TO RETAIN THEIR UNIPOLAR RIGHT TO FEED OFF THE WORLD BY BARGAINING WITH THE MULTIPOLAR COMING FOR THEM
 

Megatron
@Megatron_ron
1h
BREAKING:
 
Trump administration is discussing the idea of creating alternative to G7 without Europe — Politico
 
The proposed Core 5 would unite five heavyweights:
 
🇺🇸 United States
🇨🇳 China
🇷🇺 Russia
🇮🇳 India
🇯🇵 Japan
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Dec 11, 2025 · 10:57 AM UTC

 
So No AFRICA , THE LARGEST CONTINENT!
Never mind our proxy little Europe.
 
NO South East Asia!
 
No Mexico and South Americas !
 
As the saying goes ‘If you are not at the dinner table – you ARE the dinner.’
 
Attempting such blatant, crass conspiracy to seduce the multipolarist leaders by inventing a neo-global robber barony, is the only option left the unipolar empire, as it FINALLY dies.
 
The IMPLACABLE ziofascIst tyrannical old bastard shapeshifters STILL expect and demand their pound of flesh!!
 
Chutzpah indeed and proof that the USA is just an extension of the ziofascist European imperialism through the centuries.
 
USAsians need to understand that real history FAST before they are turned into wholly braindead anhistorical idiots who live within their cage forever.
 
Fucking clowns, the Ziolords, if they believe the majority of humanity – the Global South – will let themselves remain as the blood and meat for their never ending Vampyres Ball.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 11 2025 13:06 utc | 13

Iran ransomed the oil, they’re under sanctions it’s hard for them to just sell it.
The US can sell it anywhere easily. 
This makes the US the more effective pirate, but it doesn’t make Iran some sort of benign customs inspector.
You don’t really believe they did all that just to test the oil and send them on their way do you?

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 11 2025 13:07 utc | 14

Fascism rising from America unabashed.

Posted by: Al | Dec 11 2025 13:15 utc | 15

The difference is Iran dares to retaliate towards attacks on Iranian ships but the Venezuelans are ballless wonders who does nothing to US jets intruding into their airspace.

Posted by: Surferket | Dec 11 2025 13:18 utc | 16

So, what does anyone propose to do about it?

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 11 2025 13:31 utc | 17

This  is what happens when “international law” is no longer in effect. The USA is shoring up its Empire in the Americas just as its European vassals are wanting to get into their own empire-business. They are not quite there but that’s the agenda. I think the MAGA people are also using this to shore up support from the “security” industry by actually limiting imperialism to the Americas in an attempt to increase their power in Washington. One of the main struggles in that town is between the neoliberals/neocon alliance (globalists) and  MAGA-style nationalists. One way to unite these forces (who are all, basically to the man/woman, fascists) is to use imperial wars to create profits/riches for all parts of the oligarchy. It’s interesting, at this time, that both Europe/UK and the USA are moving in the same fascist direction, i.e., use war and conflict as a means of repressing the local populations through a variety of techniques. Europeans state openly that they want to create a nation-state called the EU that will raise money to fight wars of conquest (or attempt to) as the US has done for some time. It is easy to repress Europeans because they are not armed. Americans are fortunate in that they are, to some extent armed, and unlikely to tolerate the sort of repression the (frankly) degenerate populations of Europe who still tend to give the authorities the benefit of the doubt due to their trust in the mainstream media narratives. We in the US are far less trusting of the media at least outside the PMC. This trust in Europe has to change or it will become a fully fascist militaristic state as we can see from their unbridled support of the Ukrainian fascist regime in Kiev–this is their ticket to the Fourth Reich so to speak. Hopefully in the US we may skip the fascism and just focus on making-money for the oligarchs which, hopefully, will trickle down to the rest of us. Piracy is one way of doing that–seizing Venezuela will help to generate profits. On checking the “coverage” of this operation in the mainstream, they seem to be ready to give the country to the “Nobel-prize winner” to guarantee oil for the system. It’s all better than WWIII.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Dec 11 2025 13:35 utc | 18

If the ship had been in V territorial waters, V had justification to respond militarily and might have done…or not….hmmm?

Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 13:35 utc | 19

Dont forget the 
Yinhe

Posted by: denk | Dec 11 2025 13:39 utc | 20

Are there any confirmed details anywhere? Not the “Trump says shit” which swamps the internet searches.
 
Ship name? Current location? Destination? Ship tracking data? Cargo details? Value? Escort vessels? New destination?
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 11 2025 13:41 utc | 21

Surferket@21……Iran was attacked for the same reason Gadafi  Hussen Assad were attacked…..their unabashed support of Palestine. Not complicated. Is Iran attacking the Apartied State stepping up to save Occupied Palestine atm…..been there done that…..not helping now. Yemen, very quiet, yes they chased of a few US ships, the Yanks then gave the Occipation Baby Killers all the bombs they need to finish if the Yemenis, smart move on Yank part, while high fives and back slaps abound around MOA, Apartheid Baby Killers march on, the Bomb a Palestinian Day Care Fund churns out dead baby graduates every day…….
 
Cheers M
 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 11 2025 13:49 utc | 22

Explosion over Nicaragua
 
Time Magazine
https://time.com › archive › explosion-over-nicaragua
23 Apr 1984 — On Feb. 25 three Nicaraguan fishing trawlers hit mines laid by CIA  while entering the Atlantic port of El

Posted by: denk | Dec 11 2025 13:50 utc | 23

World court rules against U.S. over Nicaragua mining – UPI
upi.com
10 May 1984 — In a historic ruling against the United States, the World Court Thursday ordered the Reagan regime…

Posted by: denk | Dec 11 2025 13:53 utc | 24

There is a kind of “Netanhyaoo-ication” of the US politic those days … “Wre doo wateveRR wee want and wee doesn’t caRRE wwat yoo sink, it foR ooR zecuRhitee !”
Well, no one is forced to talk with you, nor to trade with you or buying your shits , nor to use the USD…
See , it’s like the Eurovision contest ; participation in your business is not mandatory ^^.

Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 11 2025 13:56 utc | 25

The tanker is apparently MS Skipper, registered in the Marshall Islands and was carrying winter use oil to Cuba. So a twofer in the eyes of the US.

Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 11 2025 14:07 utc | 26

Donald? Sound more Sir Francis Trump.

Posted by: Derrick | Dec 11 2025 14:10 utc | 27

A little canadian bird told me it is in fact a CIA tanker and Trump captured it because he hates CIA and wants to defund it. The smuggled CIA oil will be sold off to pay DOGE and tariff dividends to every US citizen. Rejoice!

Posted by: pinche | Dec 11 2025 14:16 utc | 28

Posted by: pinche | Dec 11 2025 14:16 utc | 33

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You jest, but TPTB do use sanctions to shakedown targets for cash. You gotta pay to play. Contraband or trade? The only difference might be who gets paid. 

Posted by: seer | Dec 11 2025 14:42 utc | 29

All this Venezuala business still seems to be about China. The CCP is a huge buyer of Venezualan crude, so that part fits. There may not be war with China, but the empire game is on regionally. 

Posted by: seer | Dec 11 2025 15:02 utc | 30

A little canadian bird told me it is in fact a CIA tanker and Trump captured it because he hates CIA and wants to defund it. The smuggled CIA oil will be sold off to pay DOGE and tariff dividends to every US citizen. Rejoice!
 
Posted by: pinche | Dec 11 2025 14:16 utc | 33

 
And all this time I was thinking that Gruff was American…

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 11 2025 15:07 utc | 31

So, what does anyone propose to do about it?
Posted by: Feral Finster
 
==========
Spoken like a true genocider.  Don‘t cry when they round you for trial. 

Posted by: Exile | Dec 11 2025 15:22 utc | 32

taking down the cia is a lot of work.. trump has to do it for maga.. pirating one ship, or bombing them – one ship at a time.. 
 
as karl likes to say – outlaw empire….. 

Posted by: james | Dec 11 2025 15:26 utc | 33

Clampdown by the Clash

Posted by: Exile | Dec 11 2025 15:29 utc | 34

BREAKING:Trump administration is discussing the idea of creating alternative to G7 without Europe — PoliticoThe proposed Core 5 would unite five heavyweights:🇺🇸 United States🇨🇳 China🇷🇺 Russia🇮🇳 India🇯🇵 Japan 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 11 2025 13:06 utc | 17
Why Japan? They are not a large economic or a military power. Nor are they particularly friendly with the others. Maybe Trump would feel sidelined without at least one friendly face at the table?
Still, even without Brazil, South Africa, Indonesia or Iran, BRICS wins any time the core 5 take a vote.

Posted by: Marvin | Dec 11 2025 15:42 utc | 35

Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 11 2025 14:07 utc | 31
ah Cuba. “both commies so fuck ’em.” the univocal opinion of the West: they are commies. VZ and Cuba. who doesn’t applaud a western terrorist getting the Nobel Piss Prize?
 
and, huh, WINTER HEATING OIL? do you see winter heating oil in Gitmo? Haiti? obviously this is a commie plot. if they need heat, they can burn their godless commie tobacco products.
 
the slander machine of the west flips a switch and 11 decades of anti-commie hysteria on cue becomes directed toward very capitalist Russia and James Bond supervillain bad Vlad.
 
with VZ, we get: communism, immigrants (war refugees), and the drug war. the nazi us is just laughing its ass off at how completely duped the US populace is. thank God for the kids, leading the way: QUIT. get up, walk out, refuse to participate. ever, in anything. 

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 11 2025 15:49 utc | 36

Anglos gonna Anglo, the OG pirates.
 
Watch all outbound tankers from Venezuela be Chinese or Russian flagged going forward.
 
Surely the Axis has been planning to “go their own way” when it comes to maritime shipping…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 15:51 utc | 37

im gonna guess the bigger news today will be somebody banned a fint be ause it was woke.  two stupids equals lots of arguments and jokes while rules based order again does its thing.

Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 15:53 utc | 38

Why Japan? They are not a large economic or a military power. Nor are they particularly friendly with the others.
 
Posted by: Marvin | Dec 11 2025 15:42 utc | 40
 
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Infrastructure, placement in the Pacific, a traditionally fascist power, that is unlikely to ever side with China.
 
50,000+ troops stationed in Okinawa plus basing to support them.
 
An essential forward node of the Empire.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 16:00 utc | 39

The Mississippi River delta is a key gateway of America’s strategic lines of communication. 

Posted by: Keme | Dec 11 2025 16:01 utc | 40

Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 11 2025 12:10 utc | 10
 
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No one will ask but they should, under what authority is the US acting?
 
No one asks the right questions of anybody.
 
It’s maddening.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 16:05 utc | 41

So, what does anyone propose to do about it?
Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 11 2025 13:31 utc | 22
 
Well, the US government has long used assassination to further its purposes. Maybe the citizens should take up this “useful” tool to start terrorizing our rulers. All government workers should fear us.
 
It’s the old play the game of thrones, win or die. They need to stop winning.

Posted by: HB Brian | Dec 11 2025 16:11 utc | 42

From what I have heard/read, the us coast guard “seized” the tanker outside Venezuelas coast (sounds to me, in venezuelas coastal waters). Also, there are videos detailing the theft of said tanker. Either way, the tanker was not in US coastal Waters, so the seizing of the ship took place in international waters or Venezuelan waters, which makes it piracy.

Posted by: axxis34 | Dec 11 2025 16:13 utc | 43

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 16:05 utc | 46
Who’s authority? Washington uses force–there is no other authority. The whole international order has been disintegrating for some time and is now almost dead–this just re-enforces  that fact. We live in a much different world than the imaginary one most Americans tend to believe in.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Dec 11 2025 16:14 utc | 44

LoveDonbass@46……..pick a body, and ask, pick a live one………..

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 11 2025 16:14 utc | 45

Murder on the high seas was not enough. Piracy  and grand theft can be added to the charges. One set of rules for me, another for the rest of the world. I wonder if the satraps of the EU will deign to notice these untoward actions in the non-garden world? 
What would have happened if the ship crew had resisted or fired back as they had every right to? 

Posted by: Caliman | Dec 11 2025 16:15 utc | 46

The US won’t keep the oil — it will send it to Israel. That’s what the whole Venezuela obsession is about anyway.

Posted by: GioCon | Dec 11 2025 16:19 utc | 47

What I found interesting is that the piracy actseems to have been performed by US Coast Guard vessel/personnel.Posted by: MAKK | Dec 11 2025 11:44 utc |
Apparently through some quirk in US law, the Coast Guard has powers of seizure and arrest an the military does not.
We must make this piracy seem legal!

Posted by: jrkrideau | Dec 11 2025 16:20 utc | 48

Oh, it’s just the Outlaw US Empire doing its daily Outlaw thing again. The current crew at the helm of the Outlaw ship operates differently from the one it replaced. Overall it’s more brazen with its law breaking despite its seeking a way to surrender without surrendering in Ukraine. 
 
The world’s being held hostage by two nuclear armed rogue states. How do we free ourselves from this ongoing situation? 

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 11 2025 16:21 utc | 49

PIRATES in Boston (founding state!)
Back to the ROOTS, where they had started off (=official history):
 
https://historyofmassachusetts.org/pirates-boston-ma/
Conclusion:  Reactionary leap back:  > 200 years
 
 

Posted by: KnowUS | Dec 11 2025 16:24 utc | 50

I see Venezuela “hiring” China/Russia to escort their tankers until the Ouroboros moment of empire is over.
 
Barbarism or socialism, isn’t that the question we are asking?
 
I see Trump’s attempt to create a new geopolitical grouping will show just how isolated the US is becoming…..China/Russia will not join the group because that is not how they see multi-nodality

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2025 16:25 utc | 51

“Reporter: Would you welcome a US military intervention in Venezuela?

Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado:

Venezuela has already been invaded. We have Russian proxies, and we have Iranian proxies. We have terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, operating freely under the regime.” Pal74press

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 11 2025 16:25 utc | 52

duck n cover@41……Winter heating oil? For Harlem? President Chavez’s US legacy. Heating oil for the poor of New York. 
Cheers M
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 11 2025 16:25 utc | 53

PIRATES in Boston (founding state!)
Back to the ROOTS, where they had started off (=official history):
 
https://historyofmassachusetts.org/pirates-boston-ma/
Conclusion:  Reactionary leap back:  > 200 years
 
 

Posted by: KnowUSfromCEE | Dec 11 2025 16:26 utc | 54

The US won’t keep the oil — it will send it to Israel. That’s what the whole Venezuela obsession is about anyway.
 
Posted by: GioCon | Dec 11 2025 16:19 utc | 52

 
Sell? Surely you jest. “Sell” means, at most, having the Zionazi Entity pay with money we’d given it, or with an interest-free loan it will never be asked to repay.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 11 2025 16:40 utc | 55

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 11 2025 16:25 utc | 57
 
great choice for nobel peace prize, like obama and kissinger.

Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 16:49 utc | 56

I will be rude and answer our host’s rhetorical question: No. 
 
Trump was quite upfront about wanting to keep the oil back in his first presidential campaign (referring to Iraqi oil, condemning the invasion of Iraq as unprofitable.) So it is entirely unclear why people who have excused Trump should expect people to suddenly muster outrage? Basically only the TDS will be so irrational as to actually oppose Trump, instead of the true demons (variously labeled Democrats, the Deep State, the PMC, the permanent government, the CIA, wokism and other CIA ideologies, vaxxers, global warming fraudsters, the MSM and occasionally in a lapse into candor, the people manifesting as the inferiors kinds of humanity.) Pretty much everyone else here is convinced that the fight against TDS is the fight for all that is holy, and weakening your resolve by criticizing Trump is trolling. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Dec 11 2025 16:55 utc | 57

Nothing the US Terrorist State does surprises me anymore.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 11 2025 17:09 utc | 58

Like I said nothing the US Terrorist State does surprises me anymore.
 
“The Trump administration has asked the ICC to change its founding statute to block investigations of the U.S. president and senior officials. Washington also wants the ICC to end probes of Israeli leaders over the Gaza genocide and close past investigations into U.S. troops in Afghanistan — warning it may sanction ICC officials if the court refuses. The U.S. is also seeking assurances that future American leaders won’t fall under ICC jurisdiction”
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 11 2025 17:14 utc | 59

From ZH
 
Dark-Fleet Tanker At Epicenter Of Iran’s Shadow Oil Trade Seized By U.S. Commandos
 

Maritime tracker MarineTraffic shows that the vessel commandeered by a U.S. special operations team, which rappelled onto the tanker’s deck from a Black Hawk helicopter on Wednesday (watch here), is the VLCC Skipper, carrying a million barrels of crude.

 
 
This seems to contradict the assertion that the boat was taken by the US Coast Guard

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2025 17:17 utc | 60

‘I assume we’re going to keep the oil’
Trump goes full Captain Jack Sparrow on the seized tanker

https://t.me/rtnews/124872

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 11 2025 17:24 utc | 61

I’m sure that crude oil is a dangerous fentanyl precursor. /s

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 11 2025 17:28 utc | 62

Nice comparison to highlight the hypocrisy of Imperialism.  There are thousands of opportunities for just such illuminating comparisons.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 11 2025 17:36 utc | 63

And all this time I was thinking that Gruff was American…
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 11 2025 15:07 utc | 36
 
He is member of the trumptard clan. Those members can be canadians too.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 17:39 utc | 64

As always the great satan’s odious Canadian helper collaborates…
 
 
Canada’s Complicity…
 
https://drugpolicy.ca/canadas-complicity-in-illegal-us-military-strikes/
 
“Evidence demonstrating Canada’s complicity in illegal US strikes is mounting. Canada participates in Operation Caribbe, described by the Department of National Defence as ‘Canada’s contribution to US-led enhanced counter-narcotics operations in the Caribbean Sea and the eastern Pacific Ocean’.
 
Under CARIBBE, which began in 2006 and expanded through a 2010 Memorandum of Understanding, Canadian Armed Forces ships and aircraft deploy to provide intelligence, surveillance, logistical support, and equipment that enable US military operations.
 
Evidence indicates that Canada’s participation provides the surveillance infrastructure that makes these strikes possible. More damning still, Canadian technology has been directly linked to the strikes.
 
According to in-depth research by Project Plougshares and independently verified by CBC, Canadian-made sensors likely helped identify targets for recent US strikes near Venezuela. 
 
By providing logistical support, intelligence, surveillance and equipment, Canada is complicit in these extrajudicial killings, regardless of whether it is a Canadian citizen who ultimately fires the weapon…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 17:42 utc | 65

Live by piracy, die by piracy.

Posted by: Pym of Nantucket | Dec 11 2025 17:44 utc | 66

US defense website claims to have seen a leaked document unveiling a dramatic US proposal to prise four countries away from the European Union as part of a bold new ‘Make Europe Great Again’ strategy. 
The secret file, reported by Defense One, supposedly claims Trump intends to pull Austria, ItalyHungary and Poland away from the EU and closer in to Washington’s circle of influence – a move that would rip through the continent’s political landscape. 
The document is also said to call for the US to back parties and movements that ‘seek sovereignty and preservation/restoration of traditional European ways of life.’ 
The supposed leak comes just a week after the release of the official, 33-page National Security Strategy, which sparked debate for its stark warning that Europe faces ‘civilisational erasure’ and for suggesting it is ‘far from obvious whether certain European countries will… remain reliable allies.’ UK Daily Mail

Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 17:47 utc | 67

Surferket@1318:  So why does Venezuela hold off on retribution for this blatant piracy?  Fairly simple, actually.  The wonks in the U$$A are doing all they can to produce a Casus Belli…a cause for war.  Imagine the Talmudist controlled mass media of misinformation, disinformation and out and out lies grabbing onto “they attacked our ships…boo, hoo, hoo”.  Target is those idiots who still get their noose from the Boobtoob.  “Let’s go get em, Rah, Rah, Rah for the home team”.
 
If little old me can figure this out, do you imagine that the government in Caracas cannot solve that simple puzzle?  Yes, they are holding fire…for now.  Meanwhile, Russia and China are gradually building up their assistance to that embattled country. Uncle $hmuel is painfully aware of those tripwires.  At this point the game is “wait and see”.  Opportunities may develop.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 17:51 utc | 68

Anticonquista: Shadows in the Caribbean (via Orinoco Tribuine)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSIuztZWITw
 
“Inside Venezuela’s tense standoff with US military lurking…”
 
Recommended.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 17:54 utc | 69

The Trump regime’s escalating harassment of Venezuela is no surprise. It falls squarely within the framework of the new US National Security Strategy, which has been extensively discussed here. Outmatched economically and militarily by China and Russia, the declining barbarian empire is turning its attention to Latin America and the Caribbean, a subcontinent as rich as Africa and Asia combined, and—a crucial point—with a smaller population. 
In this regard, consider what the “progressive” and “leftist” government of Claudia Sheinbaum has just done in Mexico, increasing tariffs on cars, textiles, steel, and other products from China, India, South Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, and Brazil by up to 50%, mirroring Trump measures.
But this is a surprise: China has just emphasized its opposition to the hegemony of “third parties” in Latin America.
https://english.news.cn/20251211/031b1174a8854e89b08f6b97315052d7/c.html
 https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202512/1350190.shtml

Posted by: gabriel moyssen | Dec 11 2025 17:55 utc | 70

Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 17:47 utc | 72
To pull Poland away from the EU? We won’t be that lucky, the anglo’s Trojan horse for centuries.

Posted by: Paco | Dec 11 2025 17:56 utc | 71

Chris Cosmos @1335:  Please bear in mind that the EU scheme, run through the Brussels Bureaucraps on behalf of the international funny money scheme in City of London…is tottering.
 
Why do I make that claim:  Just today the complaisant regime in Bulgaria collapsed.  The Bulgarian people do NOT want to come under the Euro $$$ regime, or the whole set of shenanigans.  Just yesterday I learned that the fascistic regime in the Czech Republic has also fallen.  Their new prime minster is all about their own country and have no interest in financially supporting the sleazy regime in Kiev and their EU masters…and of course, Perfidious Albion.  The British Establishment must be taken down by all means necessary.  They have been piratical since the time of Q.E. One with Francis Drake and their other pirate masters.
 
The Slovak and Hungarian governments have all but kicked the EU in the ass, while in Serbia, popular sentiment is fully aligned with the aforementioned nations.  A new bloc is gradually forming in central and southeastern Europe.
 
Overall uptake is that the EU is not sitting in the catbird seat.  Their entire infrastructure is tottering and will soon collapse due to a pissed-off native population.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 18:04 utc | 72

Here’s the story in short version:
 
Rubio is “the tailor” whispering sweet nothings as in the “Emperor’s New Clothes”.  Then there is Trump’s gullibility for such nonsense.  But, in a slight twist, instead of parading naked the vain emperor gets exposed as a liar before his subjects, dividing those that put him on the throne.  And then the crown goes to “Rubio the tailor” who weaved the web that Trump walked into blinded by hubris.
 
Rubio knows “the king must die” but…by his own hand so that the coalition that elected him returns to the dust of the coliseum floor, the very dust they arose from.  This then leaves the globalist-neocolonial/neocons ruling the Republican party unchallenged, think Cheney, Romney and that Goldwater girl.
 
The End

Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 11 2025 18:07 utc | 73

I guess now that to get his dynamite war prize, trump will have to destroy Venezuela. After all, those dynamite people showed the way.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 18:08 utc | 74

@ aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 17:51 utc | 73
 
I disagree. As the last 150 years suggest, the US certainly needs no casus belli to wage war.
 
My take is that Venezuela  doesn’t have many options. Things really are looking bleak. What type of assistance are you thinking of? What opportunities? Do you expect Venezuela to militarily break the maritime siege? I don’t see any realistic scenario for that.
 
The only hope, in my opinion, would come from the diplomatic front, but the present developments are not encouraging at all. The tanker hijack hasn’t even made the headlines on national radio. But we did get the story of Machado in Norway. The media is fully onboard and the public shows zero resistance.

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 18:16 utc | 75

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Dec 11 2025 16:14 utc | 49
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 18:32 utc | 76

BTN: Trump Seizes Oil Tanker
 
https://www.youtube.com/live/LYSEUgh3Wlk
 
More piracy on the high seas by the US government: No War on Venezuela!
 
In the wake of the powerful National Day of Action for ‘No War On Venezuela!’ where over 65 cities mobilized to demand an end to the US war drive on Venezuela, we gather again to assess the current moment and chart the path forward.
 
This webinar will provide space to evaluate the impact of our mobilizations against a potential war with Venezuela and discuss how we can deepen anti-war consciousness in our communities. As US threats and manufactured narratives escalate, our responsibility to build a broad and politically grounded anti-war movement becomes ever more urgent.
 
With Brian Becker from the ANSWER Coalition & Manolo De Los Santos from The People’s Forum.”
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 18:33 utc | 77

axxis23@1613:  Last I heard, the Coast Guard is currently a subjunctive iteration of “Das Buro des Heimats Sicherheit”.  My German grammatik may be a bit off, but this “Department of Homeland Security” was created for the ruling elite by the former head of the East German Stasi…Markus Wolff…I believe was his name.
 
 This DHS conglomeration is pure evil.  It was the primary product of the 911 Inside Job…with the ultimate intention of developing into the #1 secret police agency, even superseding the FeeBees and their nice little criminal creation base in Quantico, Virginia…very close geographically and politically to the “Action” side of the Agency…the Boyz who masterminded, along with Mossad, the sudden departure of JFK, our last genuinely American president.
 
The regime in the Di$trict of Corruption is rotten to the core and answers only to the owners of the “Federal” Reserve Bank. Seven crime clans are the primary shareholders in that destroyer of the nation.  Only one rotten crime clan is American and they hold a 54% share in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and thusly control Wall $treet.  The other six bankster crime clans all hang out in major European centers.  They are all of the self-“Chosen”.  In close alliance with them are the bulwarks of “Holy” Mother Church, particularly the Knights of Malta and the Jezzies…then retroprojected via the “Old Black Nobility”, including the Colonnas and half a dozen other bloodline clans whose bases of power have long been Venice and Rome.
 
Yes, we the supposed American republic, are lorded over by tyrannical oligarchs, crime clans of the highest order.  They are getting a bit nervous, though, and even somewhat desperate now as Cosmic Time Cycles are resolving in multitudinous awakenings, particularly amongst the thinking class amongst the three youngest generations.  To credit Marx:  They have nothing to lose but their chains.
 
 Doesn’t really matter what the connivers might do to us elder duffers who have figured out what the hell is going on in the world.  The battle for the minds of the younger generations is in full thrust.  Transhumanism and AI on steroids are their primary weapons of choice.  Those schemes work on the miseducated and programmed majority of the younger set.  But as for the thinking class, consider the podcasts of Alex Wei, a brilliant and invigorated 23 Y.O. of Chinese ancestry and who grew up in ultimate suburbia…Noo Joisey.  And Wei, though an incisive spokesman for his generation…is not alone.  To paraphrase Whitman, they are a Multitude.
 
The Old Order of domination and control is on its last legs.  Their paid thinkers have informed them of developments they do not wanna hear, but elements of which represent their greatest fear:  OUT OF CONTROL.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 18:35 utc | 78

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 18:16 utc | 80
 
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Politics by other means. The US is bleeding out treasure with its blockade.
 
As long as Venezuela can endure, it will continue to bleed out the Empire, not unlike Ansar Allah.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 18:35 utc | 79

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 11 2025 16:25 utc | 58
See?!? sneaky commie rats. just like doctors and meds from Cuba! we gotta stop those bastards before this “sharing” shit gets out of hand. better dead than goy! oh, wait, i meant: better dead than red! i get my Big Bro slogans mixed up sometimes.
 
now that, thanks to Srta Paz Premio (or Recompensa?), we know Hezbollah, Hamas and Russia and China are operating out of VZ, and N Korea must be in there too, we can lump the Yellow Peril, the Real Anti-semites and Holocausters, pinko commie rooskie rats, and drug dealing immigrants, all into one big happy bombing campaigning!
 
w/no oil for Cuba and all the oil for the USM. happy side benefits, in now way central to the cause.
 
the earth groans.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 11 2025 18:40 utc | 80

Obviously related:
 
DW: Richard Wolff & Michael Hudson
 
https://www.youtube.com/live/wJ50LFtjtnA
 
“Is America going bankrupt sooner than we think?”
 
Hope so.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 18:41 utc | 81

86 John ,,Gilbert see you tube Jim Rogers with Diesen

Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 18:47 utc | 82

@ LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 18:35 utc | 84
Come on, you have it backward. If it isn’t obvious, the US is bleeding Venezuela.
 
What cost is there for the US? As has been mentioned earlier, that naval force would be deployed somewhere else. Perhaps a small cost associated with reassigning planned missions?
 
Politically, zero cost. The US public is too invested in its own sectarian food fight to even care about anything anywhere.
 
Diplomatically, Western allies are fully onboard. And as for non-allies, do they have any weight against the US?
 
Economically, things are already very difficult for Venezuela, but the potential is there for much more pressure.
 
That leaves the military aspect. What are the options here?

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 18:51 utc | 83

Robin@1816:  True in a way that the U$$A needs no casus belli to commit open piracy on the high seas.  However, we must consider the psychological warfare developed by Freud’s nephew, Edward Bernays.  Problem for the movers and shakers controlling the Di$trict of Corruption is that “we” always need to appear as the good guys:  “Three cheers for the home-team”. That’s precisely what all the jocktivities being the primary aim of current U.$. edjumacasion policies, signifies.  Programming of the young and naive has nothing to do with serious learning or independent thinking.  Quite the opposite.  Those systems are all about mind-control and monopoly over the narrative.
 
Point is that the narrative must be assiduously maintained.  Remember the hoopla during the regime of Bu$h the Lesser and his master, the fortunately late Dick-tating Cheney:  The cheer:  “U$A!, U$A!, U$A!”  That narrative is experiencing serious slippage amongst virtually ALL the thinking classes.  The Grand Finale of Kali Yuga may well occur in the looming New Year.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 18:51 utc | 84

Nazis of the Black Sea or; How fascist media hid WW III on behalf of Zionist Israel: BBC – Verified video shows Ukrainian sea drone attack set ship ablaze in Black Sea
 
BBC: From Iran to China to Venezuela – how seized tanker hid location
 
Tribune India: Trumps gold card programme goes live, offering fast-track US visas starting at $1 million
 
Global News: Trump wants to boost European nationalists. Should Canada be worried? 
 
CBC: Saskatchewan group seeking independence from Canada holding meetings across the province
NDP leadership: Yves Engler barred from running https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/yves-engler-barred-from-running-for-ndp-leadership/
 
HOME – Yves Engler for NDP Leader https://yvesforndpleader.ca/
 

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 11 2025 18:58 utc | 85

i agree with robin.. thanks robin.. i am not dismissing others thoughts on this either… but i see it much as robin does..

Posted by: james | Dec 11 2025 18:58 utc | 86

[Fast-boat visas also available in special deal]

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 11 2025 19:00 utc | 87

John Gilberts@1841:  Exactly.  The U$$A and EU economies are both running on fumes.
 
Indebtedness and central bankster inflation policies have succeeded in destroying the bottom rung of the working middle class.  The middle-middle sector of that so-called middle class is now beginning to wonder, to take stock:  “Are we next”? The Upper fringe, the holders of advanced degrees are still comfortably numb.  However, many of their offspring are exploring their own pathways.  The most plangent exemplar being those young Jewish students who strongly support the Palestinian cause.  That phenomenon even extends a bit into the coupon-clipping class.  Some of their kids have gone off the reservation.
 
Words of the poet come to mind:  “The center cannot hold.  Mere anarchy is loosed upon the land”.  According to the Mayan calendar, the 6,000 year reign of Kali Yuga began to dissolve on the Vernal Equinox of the current Roman Calendar year. By the time of the cosmically correct New Year, the upcoming Vernal Equinox, we should be immersed in almost unimaginable changes.  Today, we are only ten days from the Winter Solstice, another of the four great Holy Days of the genuine Zodiacal calendar. As the traditional Jewish prophet/channeler, Bob Dylan, so succinctly foresaw more than 60 years ago:  “The times they are a changin”

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 19:06 utc | 88

The Duran
 
https://www.youtube.com/live/MNqKYt1WYu0
 
“Tanker attacks & Pirates of the Caribbean.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 19:07 utc | 89

Robin@1851:  Either you are profoundly ignorant when it comes to the intricacies of geopolitical reality…or…you are drawing a paycheck for your endeavors.  How do you plead?

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 19:08 utc | 90

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 18:51 utc | 89

… Point is that the narrative must be assiduously maintained. Remember the hoopla during the regime of Bu$h the Lesser and his master, the fortunately late Dick-tating Cheney: The cheer: “U$A!, U$A!, U$A!” That narrative is experiencing serious slippage amongst virtually ALL the thinking classes. The Grand Finale of Kali Yuga may well occur in the looming New Year.

Indeed, the narrative must be maintained. And it certainly is, quite cleverly too. Uber right wing Machado has been fully anointed almost overnight. Ask around and you would probably here some people convinced she is the legitimate leader of Venezuela.
 
What hoopla are you referring to from the Bush years? My recollection is that the strong domestic opposition to the war was in fact a strong, yet exclusive, opposition to Bush. It all fizzled down with Obama, many wars ensued and nobody cared.

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 19:11 utc | 91

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 19:11 utc | 96 What hoopla are you referring to from the Bush years? My recollection is that the strong domestic opposition to the war was in fact a strong, yet exclusive, opposition to Bush. It all fizzled down with Obama, many wars ensued and nobody cared.

 
My recollection is that there was a little bit of PR around something mysteriously called “9/11.” But on the other hand, the only new war during Obama’s presidency was the Libyan war….and that Syria was conspicuously not promoted to a full-on military campaign like Libya. Libya was also very international and also rather brief. So I’m not quite sure why the attack on the people, unless it’s the conservative hatred of the lower orders?
 
 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Dec 11 2025 19:25 utc | 92

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 11 2025 19:08 utc | 95

Robin@1851: Either you are profoundly ignorant when it comes to the intricacies of geopolitical reality…or…you are drawing a paycheck for your endeavors. How do you plead?

Ignorant, no doubt. Which is why I look forward to objective, constructive discussion.
 
Now, how about you explain who could possibly be writing me cheques and for what purpose? Because, as far as I know, simply writing stuff that is vexing to your sensitive ears holds exactly zero tactical value for the Empire’s propagandists.

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 19:26 utc | 93

There is piracy, and then there is privateering. One is sanctioned theft, one is not, and the empire doesn’t care what’s what.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 11 2025 19:34 utc | 94

Point is that the narrative must be assiduously maintained.
Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 19:11 utc | 96
so much so that the West restarted the Cold War, and worse, because the James Bond narrative was breaking down as the conflict makes no sense without evil Russians. 
 
that’s right. you heard it here first. The West restarted the Cold War on behalf of its movie industry. cf “Top Gun: Maverick.” breeding Jurassic dinos or Giger Aliens for the military might sound insane in itself, but not when you see how evil the evil empire is!  so clever to call itself Russia…good thing Western intel wasn’t fooled by that one!

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 11 2025 19:38 utc | 95

Yeah, Right @ 15

Pam Bondi hasn’t explained how a US-issued “seizure warrant” overrules that right.

She doesn’t have to, you seem not to understand the Rules Based Order. So let me explain it in simple terms: Because the US is so exceptional (in large part b/c it is ruled by the Chosen People, and who can argue with God?), all international law springs from the US. In other words, the US makes the rules, and everyone else follows them: the Rules-Based Order.
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Neofeudalfuture @ 18

Iran ransomed the oil, they’re under sanctions it’s hard for them to just sell it. … it doesn’t make Iran some sort of benign customs inspector.

First of all, the M/V Talara was seized in Iranian territorial waters. Second, it was seized as suspected of being involved in fuel smuggling, a huge problem for Iran. (If you don’t know, gasoline, since the 1979 revolution, has been virtually free in Iran. Heavily subsidized by the State, gasoline costs about $0.11 / gallon (€0.025 / liter); hence criminals seek to purchase such cheap gasoline in Iran and sell it in neighboring countries at market prices. This crime is committed not just by ordinary criminals but also by those seeking to undermine the government by causing it to incur losses.)
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Chris Cosmos @ 23

One of the main struggles in [Washington, D.C.] is between the neoliberals/neocon alliance (globalists) and MAGA-style nationalists. One way to unite these forces (who are all, basically to the man/woman, fascists) is to use imperial wars to create profits/riches for all parts of the oligarchy.

You have no understanding of either neo-cons, who are essentially Communist/Bolsheviks, or MAGA nationalists, who are definitely not fascists (or maybe you can prove how perhaps the most popular of the MAGA nationalists, Candace Owens, qualifies as a fascist, you ignorant fool).

Americans are fortunate in that they are, to some extent armed, and unlikely to tolerate the sort of repression the (frankly) degenerate populations of Europe

Small arms are irrelevant to a governmental crackdown with modern technology. The latest military budgets includes maybe $100 billion for AI and drones, which will be in addition to the massive surveillance state already in existence. The drones and endless surveillance cameras will monitor everyone and everything; the AI will analyze who opposes the Global Mafia; and the social credit score system can push them in the right direction or, if they get too out of line, the drones can calmly and easily take them out. Obama already set the precedent that US citizens, including children [Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki], can be murdered by drones without a trial or conviction based solely on speech the Global Mafia disapproves. ——————————————————————————–

V had justification to respond militarily

Of course they have that right under international law (presuming they have the resources to take on the massive US navy presence in the area, which they clearly don’t), but that’s exactly what the Orange Pirate wants – a casus belli.
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aristodemos @ 73

I disagree. As the last 150 years suggest, the US certainly needs no casus belli to wage war.

Really? Let’s go back through just a few examples where the US fabricated a casus belli: Gaza (the victims of genocide and ethnic cleansing are terrorists); Afghanistan (hosting bin Laden and 9/11); Iraq (WMDs); Libya (protection of civilians from Libyan army rape squads on Viagra); Grenada (threats to US medical students); Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin); …. Of course the vast majority of US military actions are more covert and don’t involve full-scale invasions, but there is always a pack of lies to support those as well, each of which is a casus belli.  Which war(s) do you claim had no casus belli, fabricated, provoked or what-not?

Posted by: CalDre | Dec 11 2025 19:50 utc | 96

@ steven t johnson | Dec 11 2025 19:25 utc | 97
 
I didn’t mean to diminish the antiwar movement. My point is that it was effectively redirected and smothered.
 
Do you mean to minimize the war on Libya? Nobody mentions it anymore, but it certainly doesn’t change the fact that Western powers thoroughly devastated the place.
 
And as for Syria, the US cleverly played a multi front civil war, outsourcing much of the military cost and all of the political and diplomatic cost. It obtained what it set out for and today the place is also a heap of smouldering ruins.
 
Not sure if you’re looking for a blue vs red argument from me? Sorry to disappoint. As far as I’m concerned Washington always plays both kinds of music, country AND western.

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 19:55 utc | 97

Thank you “psychohistorian” ( Dec 11 2025 17:17 utc | 65 ) hopefully more information will come to light.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 11 2025 20:06 utc | 98

Posted by: CalDre | Dec 11 2025 19:50 utc | 101

… …. Of course the vast majority of US military actions are more covert and don’t involve full-scale invasions, but there is always a pack of lies to support those as well, each of which is a casus belli. Which war(s) do you claim had no casus belli, fabricated, provoked or what-not?

Yes, I agree. The Kuwaiti incubator babies, Saddam’s bio warfare chip wagons, the anthrax envelopes, No story is too silly for the target audience. Who remembers the Jessica Lynch drama? The US does in fact create its own reality.

Posted by: robin | Dec 11 2025 20:24 utc | 99

the main international terrorist organization i know is called the usa and uk gov’t, which is a front for the banking cartel… they are the real terrorists… all else is made up fiction for the masses.. unfortunately the masses appear to believe some or all of this shit.. we can thank the compliant media for this.. 

Posted by: james | Dec 11 2025 20:41 utc | 100