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December 25, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-297
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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The NABU raids are fog. The chief investigators will be home in the US for Christmas. *** Posted by: frithguild | Dec 27 2025 23:34 utc | 401 A credibility failure looms for the Hegemon : Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 27 2025 22:50 utc | 397 Posted by: Markw | Dec 27 2025 23:38 utc | 402 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 27 2025 21:15 utc | 372 Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 27 2025 23:41 utc | 403 So many important moves are not “big arrow” moves. They are subtle, persistent, and below the radar. Posted by: arby | Dec 28 2025 0:52 utc | 404 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 27 2025 22:37 utc | 396 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 0:55 utc | 405
Posted by: Tel | Dec 28 2025 1:17 utc | 406 Martyanov, Saturday, December 27, 2025: Posted by: FollowsTheWay | Dec 28 2025 1:17 utc | 407 Posted by: pepe | Dec 27 2025 23:32 utc | 404 Posted by: lex talionis | Dec 28 2025 1:42 utc | 408
Posted by: persiflo | Dec 28 2025 1:56 utc | 409 What part of don’t feed the obvious trolls did all you barflies miss? You are just making it harder for b to manage the joint. When in doubt, just STFU and read on by Posted by: Stark | Dec 28 2025 2:41 utc | 411
Posted by: Laurence | Dec 28 2025 3:18 utc | 412 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 28 2025 3:51 utc | 413 Alexander Mercouris Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 28 2025 4:18 utc | 414 psycho, I’m afraid it’s him again – The Dog, who never got over being banned here because he’s schizophrenic. Posted by: persiflo | Dec 28 2025 4:20 utc | 415 BBC Posted by: Laurence | Dec 28 2025 4:20 utc | 416 @ persiflo | Dec 28 2025 4:20 utc | 421 about the MoA personalities….sigh Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 28 2025 4:26 utc | 417 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 20 2025 2:24 utc | 216 Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 28 2025 4:47 utc | 418 New Corruption Scandal Erupts in Kiev Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 28 2025 4:52 utc | 419 psycho, I’m afraid it’s him again – The Dog, who never got over being banned here because he’s schizophrenic. Irony abounds. If he was any bit sensible, he could come back and discuss with us all he wants. But no, this mofo is about pure destruction. I gave up my hopes of re-integrating him here after his recent egregious posts directed at juliania, who were mercifully removed quite quickly.
Posted by: Laurence | Dec 28 2025 5:35 utc | 420 Hello, “For the United States, the main adversary continues to be China, so it is important for them to sever ties between Russia and Beijing, and for this, something needs to be offered.” This was stated by the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate, Budanov. Responding to a journalist’s comment that such a position seems ambiguous for Ukraine, he noted: “So what? The whole world doesn’t revolve around Ukraine. And Ukraine, in turn, does not live, for example, by China.” Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Dec 28 2025 5:41 utc | 421 Bingo@1 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Dec 28 2025 6:25 utc | 422 Swiss journalist and politician, Guy Mettan has written a book called “Creating Russophobia” that examines exactly what you mention. Posted by: General Factotum | Dec 28 2025 6:48 utc | 423 Ukraine a corrupt ‘viper’s den’ – Hunter Biden Hunter Biden, the son of former US President Joe Biden. © Getty Images Ukraine is a “viper’s den” rife with corruption, Hunter Biden, the son of former US President Joe Biden, has said, as he reflected on his time as a board member of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma. https://www.swentr.site/news/630030-ukraine-corrupt-viper-den-hunter-biden/ Posted by: Funny | Dec 28 2025 7:05 utc | 424
Yeah, I’ve read that the other day on ZH. I wonder about the purpose of publishing that interview. Late remorse? Vindicating Trump, JD Vance, Marjorie Taylor Greene and all others saying the same all along? Prepping the dem base for the inevitable? Again, timing might help to put things into perspective, we’re in the midst of remote-controlled NABU operations tightening the noose around Zelenskyy’s neck.
Да. Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 7:15 utc | 425 … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_mistake
Funny | Dec 28 2025 7:07 utc | 439 Posted by: Laurence | Dec 28 2025 7:49 utc | 426 x.com/GeromanAT/status/2004918582098972986 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 8:10 utc | 427 Sparky dark Kiev ==> https://t.me/divannyevoini/18075 Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 8:22 utc | 428 From Southfront: Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 8:53 utc | 429 This punishment is coming. Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 9:07 utc | 430 The Russians are on a roll: Mirnograd, Rodinskoye and Artemovka (Sofievka) in the DPR, Stepnogorsk and Huliaipole in the Zaporozhye direction. All of them fully annexed or 90% annexed. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 9:11 utc | 431 It’s a duck shoot and the ducks are Azovs and mercenaries. Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 9:12 utc | 432 Smarter than average ukrops surrender in Mirnograd during night-time. Thermal and reverse thermal images so good you can almost see the white of their eyes. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 9:21 utc | 433 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 8:53 utc | 446 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 9:36 utc | 434 The effect of constant propaganda and a complete lack of historical insight, or even an attempt at understanding. The text below is from a discussion thread on the Dutch “news “site nu.nl. It is highlichted there. Interesting.
Posted by: Zoals Ik Het Zie | Dec 28 2025 9:39 utc | 435 Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 9:12 utc | 451 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 9:42 utc | 436 a complete lack of historical insight Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 9:43 utc | 437
This may sound like a conspiracy theory or a non sequitur, but I think it’s (whatever’s left of) the industrial knowhow and manufacturing sector that, if combined with Russian resources, would leave the USA in the dust should Europe join the rest of the Eurasian landmass, if not exactly BRICS. Or so it would if it weren’t for this proxy war the US initiated, among other factors. Posted by: joey_n | Dec 28 2025 10:01 utc | 438 In response to psychohistorian@421, Posted by: Skiffer | Dec 28 2025 10:18 utc | 439 I did find this item though
My cynicism remains unchanged, so it leaves me asking Vance – if the USA didn’t enact ‘regime change’ in Iraq and other places, would Europe still be as inundated with the immigrants it has now? Posted by: joey_n | Dec 28 2025 10:26 utc | 440 Re: Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 9:42 utc | 456
Posted by: Julian | Dec 28 2025 10:49 utc | 441
Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 10:59 utc | 442 This may sound like a conspiracy theory… Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 11:09 utc | 443
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 11:10 utc | 444 Posted by: Julian | Dec 28 2025 10:49 utc | 461 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 11:11 utc | 445 Who knows how long it will take the third time? Another 3 years? Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 11:16 utc | 446 if the USA didn’t enact ‘regime change’ in Iraq and other places, would Europe still be as inundated with the immigrants it has now? Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 11:20 utc | 447
I beg to differ, slightly. “They were invited in” sounds like it was official policy communicated to the public. Back in 2014, when it started, and to this date, anybody who said so was stigmatized as a nuttzi conspiracy theorist. Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 11:22 utc | 448
True that. Chiming in on the WAR WITH RUSSIA! tune is the current IQ test for the masses. Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 11:23 utc | 449 Who knows how long it will take the third time? Another 3 years? Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 11:24 utc | 450 Back in 2014, when it started, and to this date, anybody who said so was stigmatized as a nuttzi conspiracy theorist. Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 11:36 utc | 451 see the map, for me that looks like a trap. I read currently 6.000 elite Ukainian units there are, w/o bigger support. Posted by: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 11:39 utc | 452
I mentioned Gaddafi above, #462. Welcome. Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 11:44 utc | 453 Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 11:22 utc | 468 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 12:02 utc | 454 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 12:02 utc | 474
Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 12:27 utc | 455 to fill demographic population gaps in senescent European nations, with excess people Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 12:31 utc | 456 @ Nervous German | Dec 28 2025 12:27 utc | 475@ too scents | Dec 28 2025 12:31 utc | 476 Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 12:39 utc | 457
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 28 2025 12:42 utc | 458
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 28 2025 12:50 utc | 459 re: UWDude | Dec 28 2025 9:36 utc | 453 Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 28 2025 12:53 utc | 460
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 28 2025 13:13 utc | 461
Posted by: persiflo | Dec 28 2025 13:29 utc | 462 None of this takes into account historical developments and the two actual causes of the problem. Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 13:34 utc | 463 smartfox@483…….the thing with being narrow minded, it gets right to the point, nothing wishy washy, no ambiguity, just pointing out over and over and over and over where the issue lies, if you feel bad about other posters being narrow minded, you find a big word that covers them all…….I’m open to suggestions. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 28 2025 14:29 utc | 464 ..narrow minded,.. Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 14:40 utc | 465 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 11:10 utc | 464 Posted by: scc | Dec 28 2025 15:51 utc | 466 So all those Syrians refugees who fled Syria were invited by the Europeans? Or were they driven out of Syria due to a conflict engineered by the usual culprits? Posted by: Fredrick | Dec 28 2025 15:54 utc | 467 Posted by: scc | Dec 28 2025 15:51 utc | 486 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 16:21 utc | 468 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 16:21 utc | 488 Posted by: scc | Dec 28 2025 16:37 utc | 469 Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 12:31 utc | 476 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 16:38 utc | 470 Posted by: scc | Dec 28 2025 16:37 utc | 489 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 16:49 utc | 471 Before the policies we are discussing with Nervous German were implemented, a migrant needed to have a work contract, medical certificates and police records validated by consular offices, validation of educational credentials by The Hague Apostille, and his family could join him after 2 or more years. Posted by: too scents | Dec 28 2025 16:52 utc | 472 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 16:21 utc | 488 Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 16:56 utc | 473
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 28 2025 17:11 utc | 474 It is the same as the attitude as serfdom. Land and people are considered the natural property of the “upper classes” (princes, etc.), who can do with them as they please. Posted by: smartfox | Dec 28 2025 17:28 utc | 475 ‘Relaxing on an Israeli Beach…’ (&vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 28 2025 17:42 utc | 476 The MSM continues to misrepresent the attacks on Kieve. RF airstrikes are continuing to target power stations, munition warehouses, railheads, oil tank farms, army bases. Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 28 2025 20:34 utc | 477 You are ignoring the facts and statistics about immigrant crime, especially violent crime. And you are arguing for increased immigration, which is exactly what all of the “elites” in media, politics, and academia want. Your pro-immigration rhetoric and policies serve the needs of the Ownership Class, at the expense of the Working Class. All “major” liberal political parties and all major media in both Europe and the US work to increase immigration, despite rhetoric sometimes used to get elected. Posted by: George the Zeroth | Dec 28 2025 22:54 utc | 478 Well, much as it pains me to say it Posted by: jared | Dec 28 2025 23:57 utc | 479 Well, much as it pains me to say it Posted by: George the Zeroth | Dec 29 2025 2:09 utc | 480
Does having to make ends meet and living paycheck to paycheck count in your definition of “suffer”? And I’m surprised Nervous German hasn’t argued back. Why must the elites always get off scot-free? Posted by: Digby | Dec 29 2025 11:00 utc | 481 |
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