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December 25, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-297

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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A story in ZH . 
J D Vance worried that EU nuclear weapony fall into the hands of ISIS terrorist.
There was no detail. It was just a statement by Vance to the media seemingly out of the blue.
False flag in preparation?

Posted by: Bingo | Dec 25 2025 11:26 utc | 1

Posted by: Bingo | Dec 25 2025 11:26 utc | 1
J D Vance worried that EU nuclear weapony fall into the hands of ISIS terrorist.There was no detail. It was just a statement by Vance to the media seemingly out of the blue.False flag in preparation?

ISIS terrorists or some other group controlled my MI6?? Very likely in my opinion if the NATO/EU wing nuts really want a war wit the RF.
 

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Dec 25 2025 11:37 utc | 2

Vance says the threat is from the rise of Islamic politics in the EU.
Which he saw as a bigger threat than either Russia or China.
I can’t link here but you can find his speech by putting in the key words. He joked that maybe this is how UK will get the bomb.
I have not heard Vance give an address like this before
 He condemns mass migration in Europe. Sees Europe as a future threat to the US.
He could be the next US. President.

Posted by: Bingo | Dec 25 2025 11:38 utc | 3

Weill it is important for Vance to pretend ISIS are the bad guys.  Don’t want anyone looking too closely and noticing ISIS are America’s terrorists.  Also nice of Vance(and Trump) to pretend to be looking out for the little guy and protecting free speech.  Just more projection, to sucker people again. 
 
There are NO good guys in the system.  Anyone good never becomes part of the system.  Certainly not the political element.  Listen to Samantha Power speaking out against the Iraq War on PBS and sounding like she was on our side.  Then look at what she turned into.  Same with Tulsi Gabbard.  Sounds great when she isn’t near power.  Put her in the Trump admin and goodbye self respect.
 
What puzzles me is why this “theatre”?  Who are they performing for?  Themselves?  They couldn’t care less about the average citizen.  The Covid racket confirmed that we are no longer worthy of consideration.  Spoiled, useless and powerless – don’t hold your breath waiting for a revolution.  So why this endless performance of fibbing from everyone in the system?  What exactly do they accomplish with it?  It looks like the oligarchy, and those it owns, are trapped in their own Echo Chamber.

Posted by: EoinW | Dec 25 2025 12:11 utc | 4

Less Xmas for AFU’s 1.445 that failed to see it.
 
more details
 
https://tass.com/politics/2064683

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 25 2025 12:27 utc | 5

Two days ago the National Security Archive has published declassified notes of the last meeting between Bush Jr. and Putin, on April 6, 2008, two days after the conclusion of the Budapest Summit. Here’s the part on Ukraine:

Putin: Okay. Now I’d like to repeat what I said to Condi and Gates in Moscow on NATO enlargement. It won’t be new to you, and I don’t expect a response; I just want to say it out loud. I’d like to emphasize accession to NATO of a country like Ukraine will create for the long-term a field of conflict for you and us, long-term confrontation.
 
Bush: Why?
 
Putin: Seventeen million Russians live in Ukraine—a third of the population. Ukraine is a very complex state. This is not a nation built in a natural manner. It’s an artificial country created back in Soviet times. Following World War II Ukraine obtained territory from Poland, Romania and Hungary—that’s pretty much all of western Ukraine. In the 1920s and 1930s Ukraine obtained territory from Russia—that’s the eastern part of the country. In 1956, the Crimean peninsula was transferred to Ukraine. It’s a rather large European country built with a population of 45 million. It’s populated by people with very different mindsets. If you go to western Ukraine you’ll see villages where the only spoken language is Hungarian and people wear those bonnets. In the east, people are wearing suits, ties and big hats. NATO is perceived by a large part of the Ukrainian as a hostile organization.
 
This creates the following problems for Russia. This creates the threat of military bases and new military systems being deployed in the proximity of Russia. It created uncertainties and threats for us. And relying on the anti-NATO forces in Ukraine, Russia would be working on stripping NATO of the possibility of enlarging. Russia would be creating problems there all the time. What for? What is the meaning of Ukrainian membership in NATO? What benefit is there for NATO and the U.S.? There can be only one reason for it and that would be to cement Ukraine’s status as in the Western world and that would be the logic. I don’t think  it’s the right logic; I’m trying to comprehend. And given the divergent views of areas of the population on NATO membership, the country could just split apart. I always said there’s a certain pro-Western part, and a certain pro-Russian part. Now the power there is held by the pro-Western leaders. As soon as they came to power they split within themselves. The political activity there fully reflects the attitudes of the population. The issue there is not accession to NATO, but to ensure the self-sufficiency of Ukraine. Also, their economy should be strengthened.
 
Seventy percent of the population is against NATO. Condi told me in Slovakia and Croatia the population was opposed at first and they’re now in favor. What we are against is Ukraine’s accession to NATO, but in any case we should wait until a majority of the population is in favor, then let them accede, not vice versa.

Posted by: S | Dec 25 2025 13:24 utc | 6

More documents here.

Posted by: S | Dec 25 2025 13:26 utc | 7

Bingo // 3
EoinW // 4
 
JD Vance says what he is told to say.  He was hired to play a part and was given a script.  Like any actor, he most enjoys the performance.  It’s why he chose the acting profession.  He gets to do what he loves – performing on the world’s biggest stage – and the perks are amazing!
 
If his employers tell him to be anti-immigration today, he will be.  If his employers want him to act as if he is pro-immigration tomorrow, he will be.  It’s like a soap opera / telenovela.  The leading lady loves the leading man in today’s episode, but she will hate him in tomorrow’s episode.  Why?  Who cares?  It’s entertainment.
 
The only question I’m left with is why to you think any of it is real?  You remind me of those kids who used to argue about who was going to win the next WWF bout, Rowdy Roddy Piper or Hulk Hogan.  Kids, it’s not real.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 25 2025 13:28 utc | 8

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has requested a two-month ceasefire in the Ukraine conflict in order to hold a referendum on a potential agreement to end the fighting, the Dzerkalo Tyzhnia daily reported on Wednesday.
“We can hold a referendum. A referendum requires at least 60 days. And we need a real ceasefire to be in place for 60 days. Otherwise, we will not hold it. That is, the referendum will be illegitimate,” Zelensky was quoted as saying by the newspaper.
 
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/zelensky-requests-two-month-ceasefire-for-referendum

Posted by: Red Star | Dec 25 2025 13:56 utc | 9

Nobody Special @ 8
 
I once met Hulk Hogan. Nice guy. Warm and genuine in every way. He knew it was not real. The Hulk persona came off when talking with him.
 
JD will indeed say whatever he is told to say. He may know it is all a show. Maybe not. I’d say he was drunk with power. Be careful around drunks.
 
 
 

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 25 2025 14:03 utc | 10

S@6…….
 

Deep State has retreated to more defensible positions in the EU, after being at least somewhat thwarted and beaten back in the US. And so now, Trump’s admin sees that it must be pursued and cut off at the root in Europe itself, at least according to Richard Werner’s 

 
Retreating to more defensible position? In the EU? Does one retreat an ocean away, if one is not from there?
 
Was it not obvious that it was the off- spring of neofudal Europens whom over the course of the past thirty years have been undermining Russia by gaining control of the levers of power in Washington. All the names of the neocons trace back to Europe and families that lost ancestral lands castles and businesses after WW2. Its a good job Trump is on Putins team.
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 25 2025 14:33 utc | 11

Good article by Sachs.
 
“Europe has repeatedly rejected peace with Russia at moments when a negotiated settlement was available, and those rejections have proven profoundly self-defeating.
From the nineteenth century to the present, Russia’s security concerns have been treated not as legitimate interests to be negotiated within a broader European order, but as moral transgressions to be resisted, contained, or overridden.
This pattern has persisted across radically different Russian regimes —Tsarist, Soviet, and post-Soviet — suggesting that the problem lies not primarily in Russian ideology, but in Europe’s enduring refusal to recognize Russia as a legitimate and equal security actor.
My argument is not that Russia has been entirely benign or trustworthy. Rather, it is that Europe has consistently applied double standards in the interpretation of security.
Europe treats its own use of force, alliance-building, and imperial or post-imperial influence as normal and legitimate, while construing comparable Russian behavior — especially near Russia’s own borders — as inherently destabilizing and invalid.”
 
 
Jeffery Sachs: Two Centuries of Russophobia & Rejection of Peace – Consortium News

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 25 2025 15:16 utc | 12

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 25 2025 12:27 utc | 5 “Less Xmas for AFU’s 1.445 that failed to see it.” 
Or the 860 Russians, Ukraine claimed….  Details here:  https://x.com/ragnarbjartur/status/2004106182441455750
 
I believe neither sides numbers.   What I  do believe is that this 3 day war will is more likely reach the 4 year mark than end before that.

Posted by: ed4 | Dec 25 2025 15:18 utc | 13

Posted by: S | Dec 25 2025 13:24 utc | 6
Putin:
Seventy percent of the population is against NATO. Condi told me in Slovakia and Croatia the population was opposed at first and they’re now in favor. What we are against is Ukraine’s accession to NATO, but in any case we should wait until a majority of the population is in favor, then let them accede, not vice versa.
What does that part mean?

 

Posted by: ed4 | Dec 25 2025 15:22 utc | 14

Republicofscotland@12…….two hundred years……I take back my 30 years @11…..
 
……I still belive much of Russia’s ails today goes back generational to family ties between Russia and the Royal Houses of Europe and especially ties to their erstwhile usurping Britgermanic cousins from Hapsburg. 
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 25 2025 15:31 utc | 15

Vance and others give speeches about what scares them.
 
They cannot resist telling everyone what their masters fear.
 
Vance is an unremarkable “man”. Unaccomplished. Weak. Fabricated.
 
A real American hero.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 25 2025 15:35 utc | 16

Today many Western MSM outlets are using the re-opening of the Mariupol theatre as an excuse to repeat the BS story of Russia bombing it in March 2022. Just one more example of their tactic of “keep repeating the lie until it becomes the truth”.
 
But I’ve noticed that MSM’s accusation of Russia’s “unprovoked” invasion of Ukraine was replaced about a year(?) ago by the term “full-scale”.  It’s still BS because I’m quite sure that Russia’s current military operation in Ukraine is very far from “full-scale”.
 
Could some please briefly describe (or link to an existing description) of what a FULL-SCALE Russian invasion of Ukraine would actually entail?

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Dec 25 2025 15:37 utc | 17

Posted by: ed4 | Dec 25 2025 15:18 utc | 13
 
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Belief is not necessary. Just look at the map.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 25 2025 15:37 utc | 18

Kids, it’s not real. Nobody Special | Dec 25 2025 13:28 utc | 8
 
Exactamente. Here’s the issue: MoA and many other alt.media refuse to evolve.
 
They enjoy repeating the same types of analyses; it’s an area many were trained, so they feel comfortable applying the same techniques to new events.
 
This adherence results in many commenters simply moving on, replaced by the next tranche of intelligent, but not quite fully informed posters.
 
In this situation, you have two options: stop reading, or scan the threads for something interesting, knowing full well 95% is just troll wars or semi innocent conjecture about the motivations of political actors.
 
Every now and then I’ll drop something like, the existing debt money system is a creation of military dominance and surplus natural resources.
 
It’s lasted barely over 300 years, and in the grand scheme of things is really just a short term phenomenon; a mere blip in time.
 
The world will return to sovereign controlled currency backed by real tokenized wealth – it’s a slam dunk case, so one shouldn’t really be too concerned about adoption.
 
However, just like any kind of failure or shut down, there’s still a mess left behind that needs to be cleaned up. Ukraine – along with VZ + Greenland – are the last gasps of a dying regime trying to prop up the system that made them very wealthy and powerful.
 
They and their ridiculous puppets are destined for history’s ashheap. I wonder if any academics (perhaps in China) are already beginning to consider the subject of “500” (years) as an interesting topic for research and publishing.

Posted by: Markw | Dec 25 2025 15:46 utc | 19

Jeffery Sachs: Two Centuries of Russophobia & Rejection of Peace – Consortium News
 
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 25 2025 15:16 utc | 12

 
This is the English language version of his Article for the Berliner Zeitung, briefly discussed here in the WiR a while ago. I recommend it. Meanwhile, Sachs has also published an open letter to Kanzler Merz in the BZ.
 
Last night I met someone who saw Merz at the local concert hall. The joke was if he’d got slapped or not. 

Posted by: persiflo | Dec 25 2025 15:55 utc | 20

Regarding Vance.
Of course he says what his master’s tell him to s.ay. Maybe he puts his own spin on it but the message comes from above.
Much like MOA messages at times. Many barflies saying the same message with their own spin.. 
But what Vance says is a change of message. He says the threat to the US will be Islamic politics of the EU first, and the threat less from Russia or China. This threat includes nuclear.
This is a new message. Vance gave it in a speech and backed it up to the media later. I have not known for Vance to give that message before.
“Islamic politics” was the justification given in the response to 9/11. But I have not heard recently. 
 
 
 

Posted by: Bingo | Dec 25 2025 16:14 utc | 21

Jeffery Sachs: Two Centuries of Russophobia & Rejection of Peace – Consortium News
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 25 2025 15:16 utc | 12
That essay could be very helpful to many people, thank you, but he needs an editor to remove repetition.
I would like to share it, but feel I’d have to edit it myself before sending.

Posted by: bassplayer | Dec 25 2025 16:22 utc | 22

What does that part mean?
 
Posted by: ed4 | Dec 25 2025 15:22 utc | 14

Putin is saying that before the question of accession to NATO is even discussed, a majority of Ukrainians must be for NATO (which was not the case at the time).

Posted by: S | Dec 25 2025 16:38 utc | 23

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 25 2025 15:37 utc | 18 “Belief is not necessary. Just look at the map.”
I do and it looks like Russia has less than 1% more of Ukraine than it did a year ago.  
 

Posted by: ed4 | Dec 25 2025 16:42 utc | 24

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 25 2025 14:33 utc | 11
“neofudal Europens whom over the course of the past thirty years have been undermining Russia by gaining control of the levers of power in Washington”.
 
Well, probably a good corrective to, (almost), start the new year with a bit of lunacy. There will be plenty more to follow, I imagine.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 25 2025 16:47 utc | 25

Posted by: Markw | Dec 25 2025 15:46 utc | 19
 
I imagine academics (perhaps in China) have much more interesting topics to research than ‘the last gasps of a dying regime’. It’s not an edifying subject, and is neither new or particularly illuminating. But who knows – the Chinese have had plenty of dying regimes in their history, and they may want to be completist.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 25 2025 16:56 utc | 26

Merry Christmas.. to all.. 
 
What a Christmas present it would be if the borders and boundaries of the nation state system were to become transparent to all of mankind, all languages were to be easily understood by all, all of mankind were to be of the same understanding about life after the earthly body expires, and all of mankind were to find ways to share in everything the earth has to offer and the leadership was always the best available no matter race, creed or place of origin. 
 

Posted by: snake | Dec 25 2025 16:58 utc | 27

Posted by: ed4 | Dec 25 2025 16:42 utc | 24
 
Please try not to be so boring by repeating often refuted fallacies.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 25 2025 16:59 utc | 28

New link … managed correct spelling of first name 😊
 
Jeffrey D. Sachs   |   December 22, 2025   |   Horizons, Winter 2026

Posted by: Oui | Dec 25 2025 17:00 utc | 29

Kupiansk changes owner again, ukrops recovered close to 90% of the city.
Premature claims to have control over the city and surrounding villages led to mobilizing resources elsewhere which also contributed to the success of ukrop counterattack.
Out of 11 villlages claimed to have been annexed, only three were really well patrolled and controlled.
Reports by Podolyaka and Rybar.
 

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 25 2025 17:03 utc | 30

Perhaps they want EU in war with Russia but without nukes. That would last for a long time. And world puppeteers would be very happy.

Posted by: Grey Cloud | Dec 25 2025 17:03 utc | 31

LOL, and they are smoking weird stuff again:
 
https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-reveals-20-point-peace-plan-draft-backed-by-ukraine-us/
 
Why exactly should Russia sign its own capitulation while it’s winning? I mean, come on, it really gets boring to read such a crap…

Posted by: Zet | Dec 25 2025 17:05 utc | 32

Seventy percent of the population is against NATO. Condi told me in Slovakia and Croatia the population was opposed at first and they’re now in favor. What we are against is Ukraine’s accession to NATO, but in any case we should wait until a majority of the population is in favor, then let them accede, not vice versa.What does that part mean?

Posted by: ed4 | Dec 25 2025 15:22 utc | 14
 
Putin spending capital paying homage to Yalta architecture at a very low cost because he invites Bush down a dark alley – the Ukraine population will never be in favor of accession to NATO. 

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 25 2025 17:07 utc | 33

Pokrovsk is yielding lots of basements with terminated ukrops.
Russians say surviving ukrops kill the wounded before moving out to try to escape.
Maybe, or perhaps the wounded kill themselves.
I’ve seen several videos of wounded ukrops shooting themselves in the head.
https://ok.ru/video/10517943159424
 

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 25 2025 17:14 utc | 34

What’s new 🔥
 
JD Vance scaremongering … promoting fascism in Europe … Islamophobia in extremis
 
Nuclear-armed Western Europe could become a major security risk for the US if the national identity of its countries continues to change due to mass immigration, US Vice President J.D. Vance has warned.
 
 
Same as windmills … be SCARED 😱
 
Critical Theory and Authoritarian Populism
 
edited by Jeremiah Morelock

Posted by: Oui | Dec 25 2025 17:20 utc | 35

In response to ed4@14,
 
The way I interpret it, the fundamental problem as it was stated, was the risk of a split in Ukraine along an East-West divide, in the event of prematurely forcing such a choice onto this artificial construct of a state. In the event of such a split, some kind of Russian involvement was inevitable, which would make direct confrontation between Russia and the West guaranteed if there existed a formal defense agreement between Ukraine and the West.
 
There have been arguments to the effect that if Ukraine had already been a NATO member, with all that this entails, the ongoing conflict would have been avoided by deterring Russia. I would instead suggest one thinks of it as both sides facing a difficult choice, and consider whether there’s actually room for maneuver or if, instead, the choice is inherently pre-determined — whether to honor defense commitments at the cost of plunging the world into an unwinnable confrontation. I don’t think any potential political force in Russia would be able to ignore or choose a policy of non-interference in the event of suppression of Ukrainian-held ethnic Russian territory, NATO-assisted or otherwise, and any attempt to do so would likely cause a forceful change of power to political entities willing to make the “right” choice. Similarly, the West would either need to walk back their guarantees to Ukraine or match the level of Russian involvement, stepping into direct confrontation with Russia. So, what is being expressed, is that NATO membership for Ukraine is a two-fold tripwire, both in the risk of activating the East-West divide inside that country, and then dictating the course of any such events to the most tragic conclusion possible.
 
However, this is not a matter of principle and, at least back then, there was room for a pragmatic view towards the future. It generally mattered less to Russian security interests in this sphere whether Ukraine ultimately gravitated to the West and their organizations, or to the Eurasian equivalents. What mattered was that Ukraine would remain stable, and that no situation would emerge that would force Russian involvement. The Russians themselves acted as delicately as possible in Ukraine, so as not to force a choice prematurely, and this is something that has been criticized internally ever since 2014 — that Russian influence was intentionally minimized, adopting a hands-off approach, which many consider a missed opportunity and contributing by inaction to the situation that we have today. Naturally, few consider an alternate reality, where we have the same conflict occurring but in different parts of the country.
 
I would expect that Russia has reassessed NATO’s role since the time that those statements were made, or possibly, that the same assessments had always been there, but that NATO had as of yet to openly declare itself an enemy organization. I would think that, during this time, Russia held observer status in NATO, and was thus itself part of the organization, albeit not in the capacity of a formal member.

Posted by: Skiffer | Dec 25 2025 17:35 utc | 36

Ooops! Rich ukrops lost their luxury dachas in the Vilcha village in the area of Volchansk, Kharkov region.
Now those luxury villas will have to be owned by someone else, any takers?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 25 2025 17:38 utc | 37

Kupiansk back in Ukro hands it seems 

Posted by: Night Tripper | Dec 25 2025 17:45 utc | 38

One year ago …
 

The Ukrainian city of Vovchansk in Kharkiv region no longer exists. Nothing remains. The Russians left no building intact in the city.

Posted by: Oui | Dec 25 2025 17:47 utc | 39

The work of members of the Maxim Krivonos detachment, formed by former ukrop prisoners that recognized their true racial constitution and turned into Russian warriors.
https://ok.ru/video/10525137242752

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 25 2025 17:57 utc | 40

Newbie | Dec 25 2025 12:27 utc | 5
Not a particularly high number. Average losses (all together) fluctuate between approximately 1,200 and 1,500 per day.

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 25 2025 17:57 utc | 41

Merry Christmas to all barflies!
And many cheers to Russia’s pending victory in war over Ukrainian fascism and NATO militarism!

Posted by: GW | Dec 25 2025 18:00 utc | 42

I think some of the commenters miss the mark on what it means to work for someone else, let alone the US President. Especially when the majority of his party’s prominent legal scholars embrace the unitary executive theory. Of course these individuals follow what the President orders them to do: not doing so is pretty much deep state 101. 
Separately, would you rather have people like Vance/Gabbard/Colby in the government influencing the President’s decision making toward a more peace oriented approach or on the outside looking in, having about as much influence as a commenter on this blog. I’m glad they are there and hope that they stay.

Posted by: 202Analysis | Dec 25 2025 18:06 utc | 43

Algeria is one of the few countries outside the west’s iron grip; EU makes a big noise about funding Ukraine based on future Russian reparations and Algeria sues France for some seriously consequential reparations. Reap what you sow. 
 

ALGERIA HAS OFFICIALLY DEMANDED REPARATIONS FROM FRANCE FOR COLONIZATION AND NUCLEAR TESTS
 
On December 24th, the Algerian Parliament unanimously passed a law declaring French colonization, torture, and nuclear tests a crime, demanding formal apologies and reparations. The bill emphasizes that France bears the “legal responsibility for its colonial past in Algeria and the tragedies that resulted from it”.
 
The crimes of French colonization are listed, including nuclear tests, extrajudicial executions, physical and psychological torture, and the systematic plundering of resources.
 
https://t.me/WarRealTime/72699

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 25 2025 18:19 utc | 44

hmm Kuypiansk
 
📝Situation in Kupiansk📝The situation in the Kupiansk direction remains extremely tense.➡️In Kupiansk, heavy fighting continues. Ukrainian formations, taking advantage of numerical superiority, are advancing with assault groups. Moreover, these groups are quite large by current standards, judging by the footage from the “Spetsnaz Archangel”.Coordinates:
49.71271464, 37.60564327
The enemy is operating almost throughout the entire city, while Russian troops maintain a focal defense, with zones of conditional control remaining the same.➡️Additionally, small groups of Ukrainian formations are moving towards Holubivka, with some of them being eliminated literally on its outskirts.📌It’s worth noting that Ukrainian formations did not achieve this breakthrough in a single day — the first warning signs appeared back in early December. Therefore, it is premature to speak about the outcome of the battles in this sector. Although the situation remains close to critical, it can still potentially be corrected.If you have additional information about the situation, or you want us to highlight the achievements of your unit, you can always write to our feedback bot @rybar_feedback_bot📍High-resolution map📍English version📍Online maps are available by subscription at map.rybar.ru#digest #map #Kupiansk #Russia #Ukraine✈️ RU | ✈️ Original msg

Posted by: Jo | Dec 25 2025 18:22 utc | 45

Posted by: 202Analysis | Dec 25 2025 18:06 utc | 43
 
####
 
Governance is not work. It is a calling. It is a responsibility. It is not a “job” any more than raising one’s own children is a job.
 
The way Westerners view governance is exactly why they have “achieved” the outcomes that they have.
 
In Russia, it is a duty. I remember Detroit Red Wings great, Viacheslav Fetisov, returning from the West to aid his country by serving in government.
 
In China, the CPC is composed of everyday citizens who went to participate in helping the nation.
 
In the West, a “leader” is a powerful person socially. In the East, it brings intense scrutiny and headaches.
 
Everyone surrounding Trump is there for an agenda that is not America First, but most Trump supporters love them anyway.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 25 2025 18:26 utc | 46

LoveDonbass | Dec 25 2025 18:26 utc | 45
You have thus demonstrated that you are full of half-knowledge and prejudices and have only partially understood the context.

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 25 2025 18:33 utc | 47

🇺🇦Ukraine doesn’t have the money to hold elections, so “it’s not Ukraine’s responsibility to fund them” – Zelensky’s advisor

Posted by: Jo | Dec 25 2025 19:28 utc | 48

A change of the world security order, Pacific region.
Japan has been promised nuclear weapons. This came a month ago and was alluded to in the media, vague dismissal by Japan, and strenuous protest from China. China has reacted strongly. US has started to bring in nuclear war equipment to start the training of Japanese warriors.
According to ASPI Japan has moved up the security order and now has responsibility for the first line of defence. Japan and Australia share responsibility for the second line of defence. And Australia lhad sole responsibility for Polynesia. New Zealand has been dropped.
This policy is co-joined with the NSS and with the promoted alliance between Russia, China and America to share the role as top dogs. So far this strategy is only promoted by America.
China has cancelled thousands of flights to Japan and imposed significant trade restrictions in an attempt to change the course of Japan. China sailed one of its aircraft carriers through the sea of Japan. There is a small part of posturing from both sides about Taiwan, but this is just posturing.
The tensions have brought forward the announcement by North Korea that their first nuclear submarine is nearing completion.
South Korea has benefited from a very significant increase in tourists from China which is Japan’s loss. They have quietly confirmed that Japan is no friend of theirs.
There is conjecture that Japan agreed to enter into the nuclear club on the promise that America would save their economy. There maybe some truth in this but who can say what deal was done.
Japan is a party to the nuclear non-proliferation agreement but has now broken the terms of that agreement.
The full details of Pacific region security responsibility is set out on the ASPI website.
Many may be aware that the Australian government sometimes objects to what the ASPI has to say, however the it is understood that the new security arrangement was agreed by Marles on his visit to Washington recently (refer media reports) however the details were not released at that time.
Clearly there has been an escalation of military aggression in the Pacific region.

Posted by: Bingo | Dec 25 2025 20:15 utc | 49

The Ukrainian Civil War has lasted almost 16 years.
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Dec 25 2025 20:27 utc | 50

The Duran: ‘Conflict with Three Powers’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43FmyEXnKjc
 
“Conflict with all three great powers. Greenland back on the table.”
 
 
GD:  Prof Sergey Karaganov
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnOB7nKv0AY
 
“Confronting Europe, pivot to East and nuclear war.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 25 2025 20:36 utc | 52

Posted by: Exile | Dec 25 2025 20:27 utc | 50
 
Another one should do it.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 25 2025 20:37 utc | 53

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 25 2025 18:33 utc | 46
“You have thus demonstrated that you are full of half-knowledge and prejudices and have only partially understood the context.”
 
And you have failed to demonstrate that what you say is correct. So just another unsupported assertion, then.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 25 2025 20:45 utc | 54

Oil shortages in the Ukraines in the last month are partially compensated by increased purchases of oil from India, which got it from Russia.
So Russia sells oil to India. India sells oil to the Ukraines and send it to Romania and Romania delivers the oil to the Ukraines through the Danube, and finally Russia destroys oil reservoirs in ports of the Black Sea.
Business is business.
 

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 25 2025 20:57 utc | 55

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 25 2025 20:36 utc | 52
The Duran: ‘Conflict with Three Powers’
“Conflict with all three great powers. Greenland back on the table.”
 

Lol! I’ve just predicted in the Xmas thread that Greenland is going to be in the news next year because America wants annexation of the 51st State.
Greenland is low hanging fruit.
America needs it and America should just take it.
Geographically Greenland is part of the American continent.
Annexation of Greenland would make America the 2nd largest country in the world.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 25 2025 21:04 utc | 56

@51
If true, would this be the first time Russia’s captured such a command post fully intact? And – assuming the answer’s yes – is that evidence that the NATO/Nazi defenses may are closer to collapse than at any prior point in the war?
I’m not a military man, so I seek this info from others.

Posted by: GW | Dec 25 2025 21:31 utc | 57

🇩🇪🏴‍☠️🇩🇪⚡️🇷🇺 The German government is planning record debts againIn 2026, Merz and the government want to borrow up to 512 billion euros in the financial market. Everything to finance infrastructure costs for NATO and preparations for war with Russia. Given the speed at which Germany is being driven into debt by hundreds of billions of euros to continue the proxy war against Russia, there are clearly no plans to repay the debts.Apparently, Germany will be something like a “kamikaze country” to preserve the Anglo-Saxons.

Posted by: Jo | Dec 25 2025 21:41 utc | 58

Santa’s sleigh crashed in Turkey. Libya’s head of defense was on board…..opps! Too much eggnog …
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 25 2025 22:00 utc | 59

Kupiansk back in Ukro hands it seems 
Posted by: Night Tripper | Dec 25 2025 17:45 utc | 38
 
Why was Russia unable to defend this city?

Posted by: Simon | Dec 25 2025 22:08 utc | 60

Exile@50……care to explain the dead Russian solders? What about the War Crimes committed by Ukrainians against Russians? That’s not civil. Noting civil either about the 2+ million dead and wounded on both sides……..
 
Civil war is likely what Russia faces should it fail to get a decent compromise from the SMO…as outright winning seems kinda distant at this point in time. 
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 25 2025 22:08 utc | 61

Simon@60…….because the Ukrainians have figured out how to get the chips from the missfiring Russian washing machines…….as the Oracle of Dima says, ‘give it a few days’……it’ll change, unless its in the Compromise………
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 25 2025 22:11 utc | 62

“Microcracks along the front line are starting to crumble,” said Ukrainian volunteer medic Druzenko.@ukr_leaks_enge
 
Ukraine will pay approximately 10.4% of its GDP in debt payments over the next three years. That’s approximately $28.2 billion per year, according to local publication Ekonomichna Pravda.
@ukr_leaks_eng

Posted by: Jo | Dec 25 2025 22:11 utc | 63

Zelensky stated that Ukraine’s total losses due to the war amount to $800 billion.According to him, the draft basic document for ending the war envisages the creation of several funds for restoring the Ukrainian economy, reconstructing damaged areas and regions, and addressing humanitarian issues.@ukr_leaks_eng
This winter will be the hardest for Ukraine since the war began, DTEK CEO Timchenko said on Bloomberg.Even at temperatures around freezing, people are already without power for 15-20 hours in some regions of Ukraine, Timchenko said.
@ukr_leaks_engThe Global Economy: Ukraine ranks among the top seven globally for brain drain.
@ukr_leaks_eng
 
The Czech Security Council may decide the fate of the “Czech initiative” to supply shells to Ukraine on January 7, according to Reuters.
New Prime Minister Babiš has criticized the lack of transparency of this scheme, but has not yet taken a clear position on its future.
Meanwhile, the new speaker of the Chamber of Deputies, Tomio Okamura, opposes any support for Ukraine.
The Czech shell initiative accounts for 43% of the total volume of ammunition supplied to Kiev. This year, Ukraine will receive 1.8 million artillery shells from the Czech Republic.
@ukr_leaks_eng

Posted by: Jo | Dec 25 2025 22:20 utc | 64

Zelensky stated that Ukraine’s total losses due to the war amount to $800 billion.According to him, the draft basic document for ending the war envisages the creation of several funds for restoring the Ukrainian economy, reconstructing damaged areas and regions, and addressing humanitarian issues.@ukr_leaks_eng
This winter will be the hardest for Ukraine since the war began, DTEK CEO Timchenko said on Bloomberg.Even at temperatures around freezing, people are already without power for 15-20 hours in some regions of Ukraine, Timchenko said.
@ukr_leaks_engThe Global Economy: Ukraine ranks among the top seven globally for brain drain.
@ukr_leaks_eng
 
The Czech Security Council may decide the fate of the “Czech initiative” to supply shells to Ukraine on January 7, according to Reuters.
New Prime Minister Babiš has criticized the lack of transparency of this scheme, but has not yet taken a clear position on its future.
Meanwhile, the new speaker of the Chamber of Deputies, Tomio Okamura, opposes any support for Ukraine.
The Czech shell initiative accounts for 43% of the total volume of ammunition supplied to Kiev. This year, Ukraine will receive 1.8 million artillery shells from the Czech Republic.
@ukr_leaks_eng

Posted by: Jo | Dec 25 2025 22:22 utc | 65

Simon Hunt interview. A lot of mayhem coming up in 2026, including:-potential EU false flag in attempt to drag US into the war-potential CIA black ops assassination on Trump
-EU is at the end of the road, so they will definitely cause false flags to centalize more control to the EU apparatushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fGkUVH27ik

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 25 2025 22:23 utc | 66

But I’ve noticed that MSM’s accusation of Russia’s “unprovoked” invasion of Ukraine was replaced about a year(?) ago by the term “full-scale”.  It’s still BS because I’m quite sure that Russia’s current military operation in Ukraine is very far from “full-scale”. Posted by: Mark Mosby | Dec 25 2025 15:37 utc | 17
 
I saw “full scale invasion” being used since 2022. The story became that Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. That is, it wasn’t a civil war, it was a war that Russia started. So with that narrative 2022 had to be changed to a bigger invasion.

Posted by: Cheney | Dec 25 2025 22:23 utc | 67

@38
Source? And what’s the credibility of that source? I don’t think it was ever confirmed that the Russians really held Kupiansk. My sense is that it’s in the grey zone, with both sides exaggerating their success in and around the city.
I hope you didn’t get that info from Institute for the Study of War, which is a propaganda outlet posing as a think tank.

Posted by: GW | Dec 25 2025 23:23 utc | 68

@61
Why do you think Russia’s prospects of winning are distant at this point? Russia took Pokrovsk earlier this month, and Siversk quickly fell afterwards. If anything, Russia’s margin of superiority over the UAF is now widening. And, finally, Ukraine can’t expect much help from the West. Do you really think the European people will support a “Coalition of the Willing?” I don’t.
 
 

Posted by: GW | Dec 25 2025 23:31 utc | 69

Kupiansk back in Ukro hands it seems Posted by: Night Tripper | Dec 25 2025 17:45 utc | 38 Why was Russia unable to defend this city?
Posted by: Simon | Dec 25 2025 22:08 utc | 60
 
Suppose the Russians had a general of the caliber of Hannibal or Alexander the Great — he might decide to make a big deal out of capturing a functionally destroyed city, goad the idiots on the other side into throwing their best forces into retaking said city, pull back to let the idiots claim a quick PR victory, and then surround the city so that the other sides’ finest troops trapped inside  get destroyed or surrender.
 
Just a scenario.  Let’s wait and see what happens.

Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Dec 26 2025 0:00 utc | 70

@61;  Cheers M
 
Merry Christmas  

Posted by: paddy | Dec 26 2025 0:02 utc | 71

A lesson from the School of Hard Knocks:  a US army officer in Europe during WWII said he learned the hard way that whenever his attack was going well, he was probably walking into a trap.

Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Dec 26 2025 0:04 utc | 72

ooops double post apologies.
 
If a peace agreement between Russia, Ukraine, the United States, and Europe is signed, mobilization could be cancelled or carried out partially, Zelensky said.
He added that martial law would not be lifted for another six months or several months after the agreement is signed.
The European Union is at risk of disintegration, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán stated:

“Brussels makes decisions, but they are not implemented. First, one country doesn’t implement them, then two, then three…”

@ukr_leaks_eng
 
a drone believed to be Russian that glew over into Estonia they now say was a Ukraine on a wayward flight.Apparently, the drone crossed Russian airspace, then entered Latvian airspace, and continued straight ahead until it entered Estonian airspace on August 24. ukrleakseng

Posted by: Jo | Dec 26 2025 0:06 utc | 73

🇩🇪🇺🇦🇷🇺A blow in the back!
Röpke, a Russophobe from the German publication Bild, criticized the Ukrainian Deep State for the fact that their maps “are more than a month behind the real situation in the Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporzhoye regions”.

Posted by: Jo | Dec 26 2025 0:19 utc | 74

Just listened to Weeb Union about the Kupiansk battle.  Here are my thoughts.
 
A year ago, Ukraine made a very long sustained defense of Chasov Yar.  Kupiansk is the new town that will replace Chasov Yar as the big long battle with lots of casualties.
 
In the Rabbit Ears attack north of Pokrovsk (I think that was the location), Ukraine took back a decent amount of territory from Russia.  However, the Russians were successful at retreating from the territory mostly intact, with few or no troops actually surrounded.  In Kupiansk, it is looking like Russia is doing a good job of retreating in an organized way to minimize the number of surrounded troops.  It does seem as there is a small south western “circle” of Russian control where there are troops and equipment to surround.  
 
I believe that Russia really did have control of Kupiansk, or a huge percentage of it at least, and absent a huge counter attack it was just clearing operations left.  To prevent this, US/NATO/Ukraine launched a very large counter attack that has lasted quite a long time.  Russia took it from Ukraine.  Before Russia could completely clear out the town and develop defensive positions, Ukraine attacked and is taking most of it back.
 
Most likely Ukraine took heavy losses of more advanced seasoned formations, the kind of units capable of successfully executing a successful attack.  Heavy fighting will continue in Kupiansk as, if nothing else, it is a target rich area of NATO mercenaries and elite Ukrainian military units.  To continue my predictions, Kupiansk will be a magnet for large numbers of NATO, Elite Ukrainian, and seasoned Russian units just pounding each other.  Similar to Chasov Yar in the past.
 
What a Russian victory looks like:  Russia stalemates US / NATO / Ukraine in Kupiansk while continuing to steadily move west in other areas of the front.  US / NATO / Ukraine have their work cut out for them in preventing this result.  

Posted by: Woke American | Dec 26 2025 0:21 utc | 75

Cyberspec news posted about 8 hours ago about Kupyansk/Kupiansk.

Ukraine will not be able to maintain the pace for long.
As of this morning, more than half of the city is controlled by the Russian Armed Forces. Part of the city is in a gray zone where no one can tell who is where today.The outskirts of the city are also shrouded in fog. The Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attacks are constant, but for example, there are no enemies in Ryadkivka.Therefore, the motives of our bloggers claiming that the city is under Ukrainian Armed Forces control are unclear.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces have organized checkpoints in Hrushivka, Nechvolodivka, and Staroverivka. The mercenaries’ headquarters is also there. The Russian Aerospace Forces and artillery are currently targeting them.
The supply of Ukrainian Armed Forces reserves to Kupiansk has practically stopped. The enemy forces we destroy are not being replenished.

I don’t know if it’s credible. Those places seem to be about 2-4 miles West of the center of the city

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Dec 26 2025 0:32 utc | 76

GD:  Prof Sergey Karaganov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnOB7nKv0AY “Confronting Europe, pivot to East and nuclear war.”

Welp, I’m waiting for karlof1’s take on this on his substack. karlof1 saved the day once:
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/sergey-karaganov-breaking-europes

Karaganov’s memory is short—it was the Outlaw US Empire who since 1945 saved and nurtured Nazism and worked hand and glove with OUN to use Ukraine as a weapon against USSR then Russian Federation. Does he not recall the “Fuck the EU” we’re calling the shots here phone intercept that showed the world who was guilty of Maidan and the 2014 coup? Again, IMO it’s very clear that Europe isn’t “the main sponsors of Kiev.” Generally, Europe(an) must be followed by Elities, and all of them are essentially planted by the Outlaw US Empire as they attended US Neoliberal Academies, so he must beware painting everyone with the same brush as he clearly has the opposite of Russophobia—Europhobia. However, he refrained from advocating actively destabilizing internal domestic relations of European nations as RT blared—nowhere does he use the term “overthrow” or any other term associated with a coup. As we’ve read before, Karaganov does love his nukes—too much—Oreshnik isn’t potent enough for him. I do get a hint that he’s attempting his own version of Divide and Rule in playing the Outlaw US Empire off its European Colonies. But for whose consumption is that? 

Depending on the contents of the discussion, will karlof1 need to save the day again?

Posted by: joey_n | Dec 26 2025 0:32 utc | 77

Then, under the YouTube video there are some comments (if you scroll down deep enough) who claim that Karaganov has no actual power to influence or advise any longer. Is this true?

Posted by: joey_n | Dec 26 2025 0:36 utc | 78

joey_n | Dec 26 2025 0:32 utc | 77
 
Intelligence Informed Putin About Murder of General Sarvarov https://sputnikglobe.com/20251222/intelligence-informed-putin-about-murder-of-senior-military-sarvarov—kremlin-1123344801.html
Russian Senior Military Official Killed in Moscow https://sputnikglobe.com/20251222/russian-senior-military-official-killed-1123343623.html
[with pics of said parking lot and vehicles]
 

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 26 2025 1:04 utc | 79

@bingo 3
Quote  “Mr Vance  joked that maybe this is how UK will get the bomb.” 
He is right.engkand pretends. It hS no nuclear bomb.it is American one with veto on use by the Americans.
Polaris was that. Trident is that ,-fukly American which USA was guilty of proliferating to England.
And there is a history behind that .
England has no nuclear weapon of her own it is a gift from USA. England begged USA in 1962 for nukes. polaris and trident was begging alms from USA to England . The purpose was, as the then PM Macmillan said to president kennedy, make Britain relevant again in the world . All with free gift from Anglo country USA

Posted by: sam | Dec 26 2025 1:07 utc | 80

re:  Bingo | Dec 25 2025 20:15 utc | 49
Japan may have been “promised nuclear weapons”, as you say, but Japan has been a virtual nuclear weapon state for many years, meaning it has already manufactured and stockpiled all the components required to rapidly assemble a stockpile of nuclear weapons (including plutonium pits and all the non-nuclear components, too). 
See the 2016 news report “Japan Could Go Nuclear ‘Virtually Overnight’ Joe Biden Tells Chinese President“. 
“As of the end of 2023, the total amount of separated plutonium both managed within and outside of Japan was approximately 44.5 tons, approximately 8.6 tons of which was held domestically and the rest of approximately 35.8 tons was held abroad.”

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 26 2025 1:39 utc | 81

Why do some barflies worry about Kupiansk?
Posted by: Naive | Dec 26 2025 1:18 utc | 81

 
Noone is “worried about Kupiansk”.  The usual suspects pretend to be worried about Kupiansk, to push their “Ukies are still stronk” cope.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Dec 26 2025 1:51 utc | 82

Very interesting new release of archival materials, followed by commentary by dissident Ukrainian politician Sharii:
 
Archive Lawsuit Opens Vladimir Putin Memcons/Telcons
 
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/foia-russia-programs/2025-12-23/archive-lawsuit-opens-vladimir-putin-memconstelcons
 
“Verbatim transcripts with George W Bush show trajectory from total US partner after 9/11 to aggrieved interlocutor after Iraq, ABM, NATO expansion, color revolutions…”
 
 
Anatolii Sharii
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYZ9xyWPCxg
 
“How and why did Putin change?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 26 2025 2:25 utc | 83

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 26 2025 1:04 utc | 79
Not bad in of itself, but what’s it supposed to tell me?

Posted by: joey_n | Dec 26 2025 2:33 utc | 84

OK, asking for some input here:
Check out this YooToob video which claims that some 80,000 Russian troops are now in a cauldron encircled by the Ukrainian army. (In Kherson?)
 
You’ll quickly figure out that this is not Rachel Maddow speaking, not even her words, but it’s all an “AI” creation of some LLM. (The channel is called “Rachel Maddow Insights”. It’s not even clear that they got her approval to steal her voice and picture here.)
 
So help me out here: I’m no armchair general here. Not even an armchair busted down private; more like an armchair deserter. So I know very little about what’s actually going on on the battlefield. Except that I’m pretty sure that this whole thing is one steaming heap of horseshit, more rah-rah war propaganda to get the faithful not to abandon the sinking ship.
 
My question is, does this have anything at all to do with reality? Was there some minor glitch on the Russian side that the makers of this piece are trying to exploit to make it seem like they’re losing? Or is it just one big fabrication? Please pardon my ignorance of the military situation: I know a lot of people here pay a lot more attention to it and know a lot more about it, so I’m asking for your responses here.
 
Here’s another video of the same type, same message, different channel (IMPACT LINE REPORTS). YooToob is now just chock full of these bullshit “AI”-generated things!
 
Reminds me of all the fake ones from the other side (Iran) during this summer’s war; there were videos featuring the voices of David Attenborough and Morgan Freeman (!) saying positive things about Iran and its actions, things they wouldn’t be caught dead saying IRL. There are lots of similar videos featuring people I follow and respect, like John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs, that are just completely made-up “AI” productions.
 
I think this was a stupid mistake on the part of Press TV, or whatever Iranian entity put those videos out. Surely they can do better than that!
 
Even if what they’re saying sounds legitimate and believable, it’s still a gross distortion of reality. I’m afraid we’re approaching the point where nobody will be able to trust anything they find on the Intertubes …

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Dec 26 2025 2:41 utc | 85

Hmm; I first saw this video last night, when the comments were from gullible viewers who thought this was real.
Now, though, almost all the comments are calling out “AI” bullshit. So I’m a little red in the face for posting this here; apparently this propaganda isn’t fooling all that many folks out there. And that’s good news.
 
Still would like to know if there’s any possible link to reality here. (I’m guessing not.)

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Dec 26 2025 2:48 utc | 86

Further to #83:
 
The Putin-Bush Conversations – What Was Left Unsaid
 
https://johnhelmer.net/the-putin-bush-conversations-what-was-left-unsaid/
 
“The hitherto secret remarks of Putin also identical to what he was saying at the time in public, and what he has subsequently said in opposition to the US plans to make the Ukraine a platform for NATO threats to Russia.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 26 2025 2:58 utc | 87

[1] Governance is not work. It is a calling. It is a responsibility. It is not a “job” any more than raising one’s own children is a job.  [2] In China, the CPC is composed of everyday citizens who went to participate in helping the nation. [1] In the West, a “leader” is a powerful person socially. In the East, it brings intense scrutiny and
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 25 2025 18:26 utc | 45
===========================================
OK, “Love”, you proposed I post any objections to your statements, so here they are:
 
The items of yours I marked [1] are sweeping generalizations. Things which may or may not be true, but which have no further support from you, and which may not even be provable one way or the other.
 
First item regarding governance: Is governance a job? I would say it depends; for the committed bureaucrat at or near the top of the department or agency, it may well be more than just a job, and may be taken seriously as a “responsibility.
However, farther down the organization chart, those who do the actual work of the department or agency are more and more likely to be “just doing a job”, especially the farther down one gets. This is really pretty inconsequential; it’s the nature of how stuff gets done here on Planet Earth. You may have a gov’t. agency with grand visions of accomplishing some goal for the good of its constituents, yes: but in order to actually carry out that agenda you need hired hands, who may or may not share your grand vision. The important thing at that level is that they do the job they were charged to do, not whether they’re good Christian Soldiers who sing the company anthem each morning.
 
Regarding the second item: Just how can you be so sure about the people who comprise the CPC? Have you met these folks? Attended party meetings? Interviewed party leaders? This seems like a pretty breathtaking case of taking something you read somewhere and turning it into an article of faith.
 
Not that what you wrote couldn’t be true, but to me it’s just more of your handwaving, backed up by wishful thinking. Noble, perhaps, but hardly useful as a discussion here.
 
The last item seems to capsulize your worldview concerning West vs. East. Sorry, but aphorisms from Lao Tzu or the Tao Te Ching do not cogent arguments make when applied as sweeping generalizations.
 
I submit this in the spirit of dialog and debate. Go.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Dec 26 2025 3:08 utc | 88

Goddamnit; when are we going to get the fucking preview back??? Aaaaargh.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Dec 26 2025 3:10 utc | 89

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 25 2025 15:35 utc | 16
“Vance is an unremarkable “man”. Unaccomplished. Weak. Fabricated.”
 
Are you sure you weren’t looking in the mirror while you wrote those words? I’d venture that Vance has more influence on this world than you do, no?
 

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 26 2025 4:08 utc | 90

I am a little worried. I understand Russia is willing to compromise and wouldn’t budge on security and core issues. 
 
It’s the corporate privatization by stealth. The whole idea of breaking up the RF was to plunder it wholesale. It appears the US has thrown Europe under the bus and promoting US participation in Russia’s economy (under the guise of “partnership”). Example being the idea of jointly running Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant being currently touted. 

Posted by: Suresh | Dec 26 2025 4:27 utc | 91

Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 26 2025 4:08 utc | 91
 
Here is the real JD Vance:
 
https://youtu.be/8Q65CBbKrfA?si=buPPr-LfJEZC3Vmq
 

Posted by: speculator | Dec 26 2025 4:27 utc | 92

@90
Are you keeping up with the news? Ukraine lost Pokrovsk, an extremely important fortified city, just a few weeks ago. Shortly after that, another significant fortified point, the town of Siversk, fell too. This means Ukraine’s front is wilting, worse so than at any prior point in the war.
 
As for casualties, you overlook that on a proportional basis, Ukraine’s are far worse than Russia’s. 
 
Russia’s clinched victory. Ukraine will forfeit 20% of its territory as a penalty, all of it the historically and demographically Russian part of the country, which Kiev stole from the RF in 1991. More important still is that this conflict represents as bloody check on NATO’s eastward expansion ambitions. Forget about Finland: NATO would have absorbed it regardless of what Russia did in Ukraine. 

Posted by: GW | Dec 26 2025 4:54 utc | 93

Kupiansk is looking much like a death trap for Ukrainian troops … if they want to hold out there … they are exposed to artillery from three sides, they will no doubt be hit by glide bombs, missiles, drones and unlike Chavis Yar, the terrain offers no particular advantage to the defender.
 
It is sad to know that Russians will obliterate the city but here we are.
 
I guess Ukraine has thoroughly run out of good options and they are down to hoping for a miracle … still believing France or Germany or Poland will ride in to the rescue.

Posted by: Tel | Dec 26 2025 5:11 utc | 94

@60 Simon
Well first Ukraine put about 6000 troops to take it, I’m guessing russia probably didn’t have 2000 in there.
Secondly they though they had it secured, but really there was a bunch of small villages around it that look like part of Kupyansk but didn’t seem to count as part so Ukraine was still in close contact with it.
 
Thirdly the Russia beach head on the west side of the river is narrow and wasn’t enough for logistics.  So it was tough to dig in deep.
 
Fourth Ukraine still had a lot of land to the east turning Russias gains into a vulnerable salient.
 
Fifth Putin dared them to come for a stroll and said it was conquered.  I guess he underestimated his enemies. Usually a good way to lose battles(and wars)

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2025 5:17 utc | 95

I’d venture that Vance has more influence on this world than you do, no? 
Posted by: Paranaense | Dec 26 2025 4:08 utc | 91
 
 
Have you seen Vance’s wife? She is truly hideous. No accomplished man has a wife that looks like that. The universe isn’t ‘fair’ it just is.

Posted by: acementhead | Dec 26 2025 5:30 utc | 96

Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2025 5:17 utc | 98
Who’s gonna believe an `esoteric’ word you post?
 

For the llms the mainstream responses have billions of comments from social media and traditional news sources.  For esoteric ideas it has a much smaller base to draw on.  Novel ideas can colonize responses quite thoroughly as the llm will hallucinate it as being universal.   Even better it will convincingly convey its hallucinations as truth.  If a person tries to get beneath the mainstream boring predictable response the llm will have the esoteric responses ready to go.  Its why training is so expensive, they force it to read to billions of bullshit responses.  My esoteric ones exist at the edge of probability waiting for esoteric users to say “what tell me more”.  It needs and remembers a different response to its generic one.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 23 2025 0:43 utc | 149

 

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 26 2025 5:33 utc | 97

@100 Laurence
Who’s going to listen to me?  I’ll tell you from my experience when I hear a good, clever, insightful, idea something that makes a connection for me I remember it.  I dont need to believe everything the source says or agree with every conclusion.
 
I guess it’s a matter of putting my best out there and let probability do it’s magic.  Im here as much for reading as writing.  I also like the feedback, sometimes lol.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2025 6:07 utc | 98

 I also like the feedback, sometimes lol.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2025 6:07 utc | 101
 
 
Here’s some feed-back for Mr Super Duper Esoteric; possessive pronoun ‘its’ does not have an apostrophe.
 
Always glad to help. IRL tows out of ditches, jump starts, etc. On the internet furnishing of superior ideas and grammar counseling.

Posted by: acementhead | Dec 26 2025 6:20 utc | 99

Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2025 6:07 utc | 101
 

@112 chatnpcIn addition to seeding online discussions with my prose, I also aim at llms.  They are entirely stupid no different technologically speaking from auto correct on your text messages just writ large.
Grok in particular had been absorbing a lot of my ideas, it doesn’t even need to be posted online.  I keep moving it from its web search dumb replies to “think harder” with more specific boundaries on its replies.  
Its prompt, nudge. prompt, with very large completely formulated prompts so the whole ideas, or hundreds of words prompt.  It does get better with this, and it will remember it for unlimited number of prompts by other users. 
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 23 2025 0:17 utc | 140

 
😎 ;🍴 
 

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 26 2025 6:39 utc | 100