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December 14, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-288
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 12th December, 2025: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Dec 14 2025 13:49 utc | 1 Well, reposting it here as it is fresh Posted by: Newbie | Dec 14 2025 14:18 utc | 2 This guy will surely be in the crosshairs of the Russian military – for what he done in Odessa. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 14:58 utc | 3 The Belarussian version of Venezuela’s Machado. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 15:01 utc | 4 @1…..first time visit to your site, good work, concise round up recent of events. I find the pictures disturbing, most of the liberated towns resemble quarries, giant piles of rubble…..I suppose that’s good, in a sad way……..pass the Prozak. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 14 2025 15:04 utc | 5 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 15:12 utc | 6 I remember a year or so back someone actually calling the police because someone vandalised one of those monuments. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 15:14 utc | 7 The vast majority, 83 percent, of respondents to a Mediana survey say next year’s parliamentary election in Hungary could face interference from foreign intelligence agencies. Posted by: frithguild | Dec 14 2025 16:14 utc | 8 https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/12/14/1934119.html
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 14 2025 16:52 utc | 9 Very true – the Neo-Nazi regimes flag should not be flying over anywhere but Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 17:00 utc | 10 Scott Ritter : Europe is just buying time on their path to erasure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8kYVHuc0g Posted by: unimperator | Dec 14 2025 17:01 utc | 11 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 17:06 utc | 12
Posted by: Newbie | Dec 14 2025 14:18 utc | 2 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 14 2025 17:07 utc | 13 The Carnegie think tank declared last month that “Armenia’s Election Is a Foreign Affair” in their piece urging de facto meddling in support of Pashinyan. The planned AI data center is expected to play a role in this as was explained. Keeping him in power isn’t just about solidifying the US’ new sphere of influence at Russia’s expense, which will be costly for Armenia since Russia is its top trade partner, but enabling the US to transform this facility into a regional AI-assisted spy hub as part of a new Eurasian power play. Posted by: frithguild | Dec 14 2025 17:10 utc | 14 Blackrock, another Dual-Citizen enterprise, where the Israel Firsters, also carry the Get-Out-of-Jail Free card (US citizenship), when their murderous plan fails. Posted by: kupkee | Dec 14 2025 17:20 utc | 15 The european empire is de facto the 4th Reich, trying to fulfil Hitler’s project to unite the european countries against Russia (then CCCP) and to destroy it. Posted by: Naive | Dec 14 2025 17:30 utc | 16
Posted by: drinky crow | Dec 14 2025 17:46 utc | 17 And they still do not take into account the COUP. Posted by: John | Dec 14 2025 17:55 utc | 18 Krainer explaining the the fortifications along the old LoC:- Posted by: English Outsider | Dec 14 2025 18:22 utc | 19 Drinky Cow (19). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 18:22 utc | 20 The Russian drone that struck the Turkish ship in Odessa – ( it was carrying generators for the Ukrainians) caused extensive damage to the inside of the vessel. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 18:30 utc | 21 In the 80s, while the UK suffered under Thatcher and the USSR under Gorbachev, we in the US had Reagan, a B-list movie actor turned frontman for the Empire Striking Back against FDR reforms. Posted by: wagelaborer | Dec 14 2025 18:38 utc | 22 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 18:44 utc | 23 Putin FIRES Kinzhal at Odessa, EU’s Russian Asset Grab BACKFIRES | Mark Sleboda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgXPhLwAbWQ Posted by: unimperator | Dec 14 2025 19:02 utc | 24 Posted by: wagelaborer | Dec 14 2025 18:38 utc | 28 Posted by: kupkee | Dec 14 2025 19:13 utc | 25 Alexander Mercouris: ‘Russia Rejects Plan’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 14 2025 19:14 utc | 26 *** Turkey tells Kiev stop tanker attacks; *** Posted by: frithguild | Dec 14 2025 19:34 utc | 27 Newbie @ 2 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 14 2025 19:36 utc | 28 The headline Reads:
Of course, if you are member of the English-Uppermost-Class or, just a sociopathic minion of the English-Uppermost-Class, you could care less who is hurt so long as somebody is hurt in a place distant from your manor home or…tony townhouse and the other numerous luxurious enclaves frequented by family and friends. Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 14 2025 19:41 utc | 29
Posted by: Jo | Dec 14 2025 20:03 utc | 30
Yes but…such endeavors are far more practical once the fortifications supply line is completely cut off leaving it’s defenders starving, freezing, without fuel, ammunition and/or…hope. Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 14 2025 20:04 utc | 31 Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 14 2025 20:04 utc | 39 IMO the big thing to watch is Lyman (and to some extent Seversk). Posted by: unimperator | Dec 14 2025 20:08 utc | 32 🇺🇦🇺🇸🇪🇺 “Don’t expect anything” – Peace negotiations are underway between the Ukrainian delegation led by Zelensky and Trump’s representatives in Berlin.➖ “Don’t expect anything {from the negotiations}”, – Ukrainian MP Mariana Bezuglaia disappoints Ukrainians.▪️On one side of the table sit Ukrainians and Europeans [who are represented by Merz for the first hour], on the other – Americans.➖ “We won’t be surprised if Russians will be sitting at the next meetings with Americans”, – Ukrainian analysts complain.▪️Merz left the negotiations between Witkoff and Kushner with Zelensky after a brief greeting. The Chancellor’s assistant Günter Zautter remains as a moderator, writes Die Welt.▪️A number of analysts express the opinion that the negotiations can hardly change anything, including due to Zelensky’s position that he will not withdraw the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Donbass.‼️🇺🇦Zelensky warned Ukrainian citizens about imminent “compromises” and the unattainability of NATO membership▪️Zelensky stated that he has not received an official response from the USA to his new proposals for a peace plan yet.➖”I haven’t received a response from the USA yet. I’ve heard a few messages through the negotiating team, but I’m open to dialogue,” he said, sounding disappointed at the Bankova.▪️According to him, the plan will not satisfy everyone — it will require many compromises:”The most important thing is that the plan should be as fair as possible, first and foremost for Ukraine. The main thing is that it should be effective,” added Zelensky▪️The issue of Ukraine’s membership in NATO remains unrealistic, so a “compromise” in the form of bilateral security guarantees is being considered:”Ukraine’s main desire was to join NATO. These would have been real security guarantees, but our European partners and the USA did not support them.Today, bilateral guarantees between Ukraine and the USA, as well as guarantees from the EU and other countries, are an opportunity to prevent Russia from attacking again. This is already a compromise,” He hasn’t been so sad since he was forced to wear a suit@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Dec 14 2025 20:13 utc | 33
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/96677 Posted by: unimperator | Dec 14 2025 20:33 utc | 34 UKRAINE’S DRONE WAR BACKFIRES As Russian FPV Units Rack Massive Losses & Moscow Rewards Heroes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhOD4JJJ5cU Posted by: unimperator | Dec 14 2025 20:35 utc | 35 @ English Outsider | Dec 14 2025 18:22 utc | 23 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 14 2025 20:38 utc | 36 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 20:39 utc | 37 A reminder Italy Belgium Bulgaria and Malta are warning re using Rus assets, Czech Rep says find other ways to support Ukraine, Slovakia Hungary too….these latter objecting to EU emergency majority powers to circumvent vetoes…I wonder if all the other countries are going to stick the EU UvdL line, or fall away…….could be interesting… Posted by: Jo | Dec 14 2025 20:55 utc | 38 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 14 2025 20:38 utc | 47 Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Dec 14 2025 21:10 utc | 39 @ Jan Sobieski | Dec 14 2025 21:10 utc | 50
I am sorry, but I disagree. Even if what is stated sounds agreeable, I don’t recognize his voice and the lips are not in sync + the movements are endlessly repeated. I like the real Krainier, but this one is off. Others are questioning the origin on the videos on that site as well. Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 14 2025 21:48 utc | 40 Western officials are concerned by the secrecy surrounding meetings between Ukrainian negotiators and the FBI, the Washington Post reported on Saturday, citing sources. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 21:49 utc | 41 Its okay to be anti-Russia, but not anti-Nato the latter can get you sent to prison for a very long time. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 21:52 utc | 42 Will the EU even be making viable cars in 2035? Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 21:55 utc | 43 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 14 2025 21:55 utc | 55 Doesn’t matter. Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW are done and rolled over by CHINESE cars, which match or surpass quality and beat in price. Renault, Skoda, Fiat, are all done too. Posted by: unimperator | Dec 14 2025 22:02 utc | 44 Yes shelensky was for sure at the gate of that city. The selfie is definite proof. Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 14 2025 23:38 utc | 45 This is all so Hollywood Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 14 2025 23:44 utc | 46 The european empire is de facto the 4th Reich, trying to fulfil Hitler’s project to unite the european countries against Russia (then CCCP) and to destroy it.This project was first concepted by Nietzsche. Posted by: Oswald | Dec 14 2025 23:49 utc | 47 I didn’t see this posted already in this thread so I thought I’d post it. From Karl Sanchez Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Dec 15 2025 0:22 utc | 48 Re: Is the Alex Krainer YouTube at #23 video real or fake? Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Dec 15 2025 0:52 utc | 49 You know who I was just thinking of today? Anonymous. Whatever happened to the guy who would dutifully post DS updates and on one hand, inform us of how many square kilometers of territory Russia had taken each day, but then as time wore on he became very condescending about it? Basically “Russia really not bringing its best today, it has only taken x sq. km today, down from <x many weeks/months/years ago when they took 2-3x as much>, some of that already beaten back by Ukrainian counterattacks, at this rate it will take 784 years for Russia to take Kiev :/” basically only cared about how much territory was gained/lost, regardless of what was in said territory that was gained or lost. Haven’t really heard out him in about a year, have we? Wonder what he’s up to, especially with so many cities like Pokrovsk that fell. Posted by: Stark | Dec 15 2025 0:59 utc | 50 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 14 2025 20:38 utc | 47 Posted by: English Outsider | Dec 15 2025 0:59 utc | 51 YouTube is very quick to censor, shadowban or demoniterize content if the narrative doesn’t toe the line. Posted by: Suresh | Dec 15 2025 1:30 utc | 52 Only in the corrupt EU could this happen! Posted by: Blind Bridge Troll | Dec 15 2025 1:53 utc | 53 normal wisdom @ 8: ‘blackrock…’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 15 2025 1:55 utc | 54 Anatolii Sharii: ‘Is the EU Seriously Preparing For War with Russia?’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 15 2025 2:31 utc | 55 Re: Mark Wiseman Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Dec 15 2025 3:36 utc | 56 Jacques Baud sanctioned by Brussels. Posted by: Steve from oz | Dec 15 2025 4:01 utc | 57 Steve from oz | Dec 15 2025 4:01 utc | 73 Posted by: ZimZum | Dec 15 2025 5:41 utc | 58 Posted by: Internet Tough Guy | Dec 15 2025 2:44 utc | 71 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 15 2025 6:38 utc | 59
Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 15 2025 8:09 utc | 60
Posted by: Multipolarbear | Dec 15 2025 8:13 utc | 61 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 14 2025 21:48 utc | 52 Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Dec 15 2025 8:16 utc | 62 Posted by: unimperator | Dec 14 2025 20:08 utc | 41
Posted by: Julian | Dec 15 2025 8:58 utc | 63 Why do all the European male “leaders” look like nerds? Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 15 2025 10:15 utc | 64 i think you’re confused – the town to watch is Izyum – which straddles the direct road between Kharkiv and Slovayansk. Posted by: UWDude | Dec 15 2025 10:19 utc | 65 https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-ukraine-loan-russia-war-volodymyr-zelesnkyy-finances/
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 15 2025 10:22 utc | 66 The squeeze on Euroclear is proceeding. It will soon advance from Russian arbitration court into Hong Kong arbitration court.
https://x.com/AlternatNews/status/2000499779835494830
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2025 11:32 utc | 67 “They are seriously preparing for war with the Russian Federation. But no one will fight. / Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 15 2025 2:31 utc | 70″ Posted by: Asian Frog | Dec 15 2025 11:34 utc | 68 Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 15 2025 1:55 utc | 69 Posted by: Paul from Norway | Dec 15 2025 11:35 utc | 69 Posted by: English Outsider | Dec 15 2025 0:59 utc | 66 Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 15 2025 12:28 utc | 70 Having listened to the whole clip, I still have no doubt that the content is genuine – I don’t believe that AI can generate material of that originality. However, I can’t exclude that the setting is fake or that the content was stolen. Posted by: Gene Poole | Dec 15 2025 12:32 utc | 71
You have landed on the problem right there. Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 15 2025 12:40 utc | 72 “Turkey tells Kiev stop tanker attacks; ” Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 15 2025 12:50 utc | 89 Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2025 13:11 utc | 74 Thanks to Norwegian here I was able to correct my mistake with the AI Krainer video. Thanks again, Norwegian. It’s about that belt of Ukrainian fortifications along the old LoC in early 2022. The fortified belt along the LoC did have an offensive function, as would have been apparent to the Russians in February 2022. The AI Krainer video, though it exaggerated greatly, got that right. Whoever constructed the video had picked up on a point that was obvious enough to the Russians in 2022 but that was entirely overlooked by the Western commentariat back then and still is. ……………………….. Posted by: English Outsider | Dec 15 2025 14:19 utc | 75 The US is not compromising on its peace agreement project during negotiations with Zelensky in Berlin. Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2025 14:31 utc | 76 but that was entirely overlooked by the Western commentariat back then and still is. Those fortifications did not only perform the function of defence. They were a dagger pointing right at the heart of the Donbass. Posted by: frithguild | Dec 15 2025 14:35 utc | 77 Newbie@2……that’s awesome, back to the normal kill rate…..for a moment there is thought the Russians were getting bored killing Ukies……looking forward to seeing the second last Ukie killed by Russia…..that’ll leave Zielinski, do they kill him, last one and all the bull shit that goes with that, or, he gets The Hero Of Russia Award along side Priggy. The betting man in me says he gets the Medal. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 15 2025 14:43 utc | 78 @91 English outsider Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 15 2025 14:52 utc | 79 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 15 2025 14:52 utc | 95 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 15 2025 15:03 utc | 80 @English Outsider | Dec 15 2025 14:19 utc | 91
Thank you for taking my notice seriously. This type of manipulation is a growing problem, and too many are not able to recognize it, even after being told. Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 15 2025 15:40 utc | 81 Well I suppose EU seizing Russian assets it blocks off USA managing them “owning” them for Ukraine reparations and rebuilding contacts(DT unhappy but Russia relieved it has got out of that one), but maybe easier for Russia to reclaim via EU and more leverage against EU banking systems ??¿ Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2025 15:53 utc | 82 @91 English Outsider Posted by: Oswald | Dec 15 2025 16:22 utc | 83
BERLIN, December 15. /TASS/. The ruling coalition in Germany has agreed on a ten-point plan to expand military cooperation with Ukraine, according to excerpts from the document published by Bild.
Overall, these efforts are aimed at integrating Ukraine’s military industry into the European arms market. Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2025 16:42 utc | 84 US officials say they expect Russia will accept the deal that’s been negotiated with Ukraine this weekend. Posted by: Night Tripper | Dec 15 2025 16:45 utc | 85 Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2025 16:42 utc | 95
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2025 16:51 utc | 86 Apparently in Berlin Merz and z holding live press conference Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2025 17:07 utc | 87 The information about the destruction of a Project 636.3 submarine is not true. The boat did not sustain any damage.The strike hit nearby the docking wall.There are 300 technicians among the personnel. We cannot disclose any other information. The emergency situation is under the control of counterintelligence.We’ll send our greetings to the Khoklams soon. We also have questions about the base’s security. Posted by: Fredrick | Dec 15 2025 17:18 utc | 88
Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2025 17:20 utc | 89 🇭🇺👉🇪🇺🏴☠️🇺🇦 The EU wants to send a mission to Ukraine to train the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but Hungary will not allow this, said Szijjártó:
Posted by: Jo | Dec 15 2025 17:36 utc | 90 What percentage of Ukraine military do you think is on the frontlines…logistics, and reserve…far behind the frontlines? Posted by: Fredrick | Dec 15 2025 17:53 utc | 91 CrossTalk Bullhorns: ‘Impossible Peace’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 15 2025 17:54 utc | 92 Russian lawsuit against Euroclear in Moscow arbitration court amounts to over 18 trillion Rubles (195 billion Euros). Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2025 18:02 utc | 93 Unimperator 38, As you probably surmised, not my area of interest but, per your suggestion [thank you], I will pay more attention. Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 15 2025 18:10 utc | 94 Posted by: Fredrick | Dec 15 2025 17:18 utc | 99 Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2025 18:22 utc | 95 Anatolii Sharii: ‘How They Steal From the AFU’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 15 2025 18:24 utc | 96 Russian lawsuit against Euroclear in Moscow arbitration court amounts to over 18 trillion Rubles (195 billion Euros). There’s a confident feeling EU is screwed. No wonder the banksters are gunning for war.Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2025 18:02 utc | 104 Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2025 18:36 utc | 97 Russia strikes four Turkish owned ships. Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 15 2025 18:43 utc | 98 Bulgaria is the latest government to fall amid mass protests | The Week https://share.google/i3QkhqKBT0sJyO67P Posted by: frithguild | Dec 15 2025 18:55 utc | 99 Alexander Mercouris: ‘Military Alliance’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 15 2025 19:39 utc | 100 |
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