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December 11, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-285
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Bringing this from the tail end of the previous Open thread: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 17:56 utc | 1 Great to read that Siversk has been liberated already. Posted by: Truthsayer | Dec 11 2025 18:10 utc | 2 Quote of the day:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 11 2025 18:22 utc | 3 Ok Bar, how long would it take our ‘ leaders’ in Europe to actually steal the Russian state assets in Euroclear ? Posted by: Judge Barbier | Dec 11 2025 18:29 utc | 4 Posted by: Judge Barbier | Dec 11 2025 18:29 utc | 4 The more they talk about it, the less likely it’s going to happen. Because these parasites and sociopaths always compensate lack of ability with talking. Posted by: unimperator | Dec 11 2025 18:35 utc | 5 The problem with the nation state system is that each nation is divided into the few and the many . The few use the government they control to keep the many safely separated from the few and always in a state of dependence and just over broke. Unless and until the many exercise their collective bottom-up power governments will always serve the few at the expense of the many. Posted by: snake | Dec 11 2025 18:36 utc | 6 The Russian money is the collateral. Posted by: Martina | Dec 11 2025 18:42 utc | 7
Posted by: Judge Barbier | Dec 11 2025 18:29 utc | 4
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2025/12/about-russian-frozen-stolen-assets.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 18:43 utc | 8 ^ @3 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 11 2025 18:44 utc | 9 Anatolii Sharii: ‘There will be no elections just like there will be no peace.’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 18:45 utc | 10 Civil disobedience. Rolling strikes. Boycott everything American. Posted by: Bingo | Dec 11 2025 18:47 utc | 11
As I said the other day, Russia needs to work an end of war deal that creates a border with Slovakia/Hungary that includes a hydrocarbon/shipping corridor and a security deal with said parties and Austria. Slovakia/Hungary/Austria are very much at risk due to the machination of SS-Officer-von der Leyen. All the mentioned parties need to prepare an exit route or have their borders erased. Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 11 2025 18:52 utc | 12 Following earlier post secret docs USA trying to get ,4 countries away “from NATO ie Austria Hungary re posted beneath , also Bulgarian Gov resigned vos of corruption stuff…and any news Serbia,????? So Georgia and Moldova quiet? Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 18:52 utc | 13 If there were only one government would there be wars? Posted by: Me | Dec 11 2025 18:56 utc | 14 Thanks to all for the replies… Posted by: Judge Barbier | Dec 11 2025 19:05 utc | 15 @4 Posted by: paddy | Dec 11 2025 19:09 utc | 16 Posted by: Me | Dec 11 2025 18:56 utc | 14 Posted by: snake | Dec 11 2025 19:27 utc | 17 From ZH Over 30 Kamikaze Drones Sent On Moscow Overnight, Shutting Down Airports Moar Cow Bell!!!! Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2025 19:30 utc | 18 Canada’s Defence Spending Ramps Up Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 19:36 utc | 19 @ psychohistorian | Dec 11 2025 19:30 utc | 18 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 19:36 utc | 20 Alexander Mercouris Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 19:44 utc | 21 In response about ZH Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2025 19:53 utc | 22 ZH was brutally shut down for being too independent some years ago. It then reopened a few weeks later – toeing the Deep State line. The comments remain Independent and informative. Posted by: Exile | Dec 11 2025 19:59 utc | 23 Is there any confirmation that Lyman has been reoccupied? Quite a surprise, I didn’t think the Russians were even near it yet. Posted by: catdog | Dec 11 2025 20:12 utc | 24 @ Exile | Dec 11 2025 19:59 utc | 23
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1765483098-vidklyuchennya-svitla-po-vsiy-ukrayini-v-ukrenergo-poperedili-pro-obmezhennya-na-12-grudnya (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 20:15 utc | 25 Posted by: Jo | Dec 11 2025 18:52 utc | 13 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 11 2025 20:15 utc | 26
Posted by: catdog | Dec 11 2025 20:12 utc | 24 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 20:30 utc | 27 BlackRock CEO Fink is reportedly now taking part in Ukraine negotiation. Posted by: unimperator | Dec 11 2025 20:31 utc | 28 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2025 20:32 utc | 29 Unimperator. @ 28 Posted by: Bingo | Dec 11 2025 20:46 utc | 30 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 20:15 utc | 25 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 11 2025 20:50 utc | 31 I think the Eurotards are racing the clock to freeze the Russian assets before an American peace deal so they can escalate – keep the Ukraine front open by sending money, and possibly widen it by officially shipping French troops to Odessa (possibly at the invitation of Zelenskyy) from Romania, and activating Moldova. There’s been a lot of activity in Romania and Moldova, including this : Posted by: surrenderingmonkey | Dec 11 2025 20:59 utc | 32 @ YetAnotherAnon | Dec 11 2025 20:50 utc | 31 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 21:27 utc | 33 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 21:27 utc | 33 Isn‘t Morning Cloud a play on the phrase Morning Glory ? Posted by: Exile | Dec 11 2025 21:46 utc | 35 The crack pipe seems to be full over in Kiev. The latest “peace” counter-proposal is a real piece of work:
So the rapidly shrinking remaining Donbas territory that isn’t occupied by Russia would become some sort of economic paradise, complete with no controlling legal authorities, land mines, and unexploded ordinance. I bet businessmen are just chomping at the bit to sign up for that! Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 11 2025 21:55 utc | 36 I have one question about one thing (particularly with the cleaning of prokovsk’s suburbs, taking Lyman and AFU counterattacks in kupiansk) Posted by: Newbie | Dec 11 2025 21:56 utc | 37
Julian can add one more 50,000+ population city to his list. Posted by: Milton | Dec 11 2025 22:04 utc | 38 Western values in full geer trying to steal what is not belonging to them. Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 22:08 utc | 39 Ukraine updates from a source with proven cred: https://nitter.net/AMK_Mapping_ Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:12 utc | 40
Posted by: Milton | Dec 11 2025 22:04 utc | 38 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 22:13 utc | 41 Either there are a lot of surrenders not being presented or AWOLs through the roof.Posted by: Newbie | Dec 11 2025 21:56 utc | 37 Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:17 utc | 42 @JRL Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:24 utc | 43 Re: Posted by: Truthsayer | Dec 11 2025 18:10 utc | 2
Posted by: Julian | Dec 11 2025 22:27 utc | 44 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Dec 11 2025 21:55 utc | 36 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 22:28 utc | 45 Weeb Union Headlines.(I don’t have time/ inclination to watch any of these guys anymore…. I do a headline skim) Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:30 utc | 46 Can someone from the well-informed Moonkind Community give me some context for events in Bulgaria? I’m struggling to find in-depth analysis anywhere…can anyone point me to some links? Posted by: Billy2Hats | Dec 11 2025 22:31 utc | 47 Hey guys, Julian is here … and …. He said the line… as predicted… Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:33 utc | 48 Re: Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 11 2025 18:52 utc | 12
Posted by: Julian | Dec 11 2025 22:36 utc | 49 It’s taken way too long. Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 22:39 utc | 50 @ Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:24 utc | 43 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 22:39 utc | 51 Clock one is bold. (Well fuck me)
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:41 utc | 52 In modern times – until 2014 – Russia effectively de facto controlled 100% of Ukraine – How much does Russia now control? Less than 25%. Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 22:45 utc | 53 Posted by: Bingo | Dec 11 2025 18:47 utc | 11 I’ve long stopped buying anything from the overpriced, extremely expensive freight charges US. Much of what you can buy from there you can get from China without having to pay for American parasitic rent seeking for the same products anyway. I’m noticing that a number of US companies like PayPal are running advertising and marketing blitzes to drum up business, but since Ukraine and their obvious political support for US interests only they can get lost. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 11 2025 22:48 utc | 54 It’s no longer speculation – Zelensky and Yermak have already set up their escape routes to Tel Aviv.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 11 2025 22:50 utc | 55 JRL I guessed it was my device …and I don’t update so eventually I have access problems … I use a device until it dies and then get a new one. Sometimes it can be years between devices, or 6 months – if some inattentive clown immerses it in water…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:51 utc | 56 Posted by: Julian | Dec 11 2025 22:36 utc | 49 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 22:51 utc | 57 @ Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 22:41 utc | 52 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 11 2025 22:53 utc | 58 Hey Julian…. If Putin is a failure….Is this what success looks like?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 23:03 utc | 59 LoveDonbass | Dec 11 2025 22:51 utc | 57 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 11 2025 23:05 utc | 60 Those “frozen” Russian assets are melting minds…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 23:08 utc | 61 Sversk Falls… Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 23:08 utc | 62 Posted by: unimperator | Dec 11 2025 22:50 utc | 55 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 11 2025 23:10 utc | 63 Air defenses are nowadays obsolete against stealth technology. The article explains why US air supremacy dominates the modern era of war. China seems to be catching up. Is Russia lagging behind? Posted by: Emi | Dec 11 2025 23:10 utc | 64 Canada in Ukraine (corrected) Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 23:11 utc | 65 Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 11 2025 23:08 utc | 62 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 11 2025 23:14 utc | 66 The article explains why US air supremacy dominates the modern era of war. Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 23:17 utc | 67 An elegant compare and contrast… Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 23:19 utc | 68 Posted by: Emi | Dec 11 2025 23:10 utc | 64 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Dec 11 2025 23:25 utc | 69 Mmmm,, that free Venezuelan oil tastes so…. addictive.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 23:26 utc | 70 Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 23:26 utc | 70 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 23:35 utc | 71 The annual Kremlin cadet ball. Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 11 2025 23:38 utc | 72 Bleeding russia to death is taking way too long. 55 to 1000 body exchange every time means Russia can do this forever. Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 23:45 utc | 73 Konstantinovka will soon be in a cauldron. Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 23:47 utc | 74 Killnet has published an interactive map of Ukraine showing the locations of factories producing drones. Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 23:49 utc | 75 Liberation of Sieviersk was the result of FAB heavy bombings. For instance FAB3000. Boom bada boom. Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 23:52 utc | 76 In Kiev, electricity is on 4 hours/day. Posted by: Naive | Dec 11 2025 23:54 utc | 77 You got it wrong, it is 55 to 1. Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 23:58 utc | 78 Ukraine future 1. Military collapse Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 12 2025 0:08 utc | 79 So…. you are saying there is a chance?😛 Posted by: Naive | Dec 12 2025 0:23 utc | 80 Re: Posted by: Milton | Dec 11 2025 22:04 utc | 38
Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 0:24 utc | 81 Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 0:24 utc | 81 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 0:36 utc | 82 ——- remember when Down South provided daily grabs from telegram.I miss that guy.Of course, the trolls took their toll, and he posts no more. Posted by: Newbie | Dec 12 2025 0:40 utc | 83 Er, sorry to break it to you Milton – Siversk is a small town – it is certainly no “city”.
Posted by: arby | Dec 12 2025 0:55 utc | 84 Tis but a flesh wound Posted by: Stark | Dec 12 2025 1:06 utc | 85 Emi // 64 Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 12 2025 1:06 utc | 86 What they need to do is put the Ukrainian city’s pre-war population next to, say, the population of Berlin, Paris, NYC, London, etc. just for comparison, I feel like there’s some psychology behind there that’ll say “this number is so much smaller than the bigger number that even though we’re comparing megacities and/or capitals – in the Europeans’ case, some of which have been around for hundreds of years – this Ukrainian city must really be tiny and irrelevant, look how easily it’d fit in one of <larger city’s> suburbs! The Russians really took all that time just to take some podunk neighborhood hahahah” Posted by: Stark | Dec 12 2025 1:09 utc | 87
Later he would say that Russia in 2025 cointrolld the whole USA, so it still will be a loss. Posted by: Poslan1 | Dec 12 2025 1:45 utc | 88 Posted by: Poslan1 | Dec 12 2025 1:45 utc | 88 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 2:11 utc | 90 H/t Newbie | Dec 12 2025:40 utc | 83
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 12 2025 2:49 utc | 91 Re: Posted by: UWDude | Dec 11 2025 22:45 utc | 53
Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 2:51 utc | 92 “I have one question about one thing (particularly with the cleaning of prokovsk’s suburbs, taking Lyman and AFU counterattacks in kupiansk) AFU casulaties 1.100s , ten days in a row. Either there are a lot of surrenders not being presented or AWOLs through the roof.” Posted by: Peter4805 | Dec 12 2025 2:54 utc | 93 Fine – Go back to 1991 then if it makes you feel better. Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 2:55 utc | 94 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 2:55 utc | 95 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 2:59 utc | 95 Re: Posted by: arby | Dec 12 2025 0:55 utc | 84
Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 3:01 utc | 96 Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 3:01 utc | 97 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 3:03 utc | 97 Re: Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 3:03 utc | 98
Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 3:06 utc | 98 Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 3:01 utc | 97
Figure it out Julian All your worst nightmares will come true. All of them. And i wont cry if we hear you found yourself a new tie to wear for the rest of your life for your last dance under the chandelier Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 3:11 utc | 99 Posted by: Julian | Dec 12 2025 3:06 utc | 99 Posted by: UWDude | Dec 12 2025 3:12 utc | 100 |
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