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December 3, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-279
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Zelensky’s wife got into a scandal with orphaned teenagers who became pregnant in Turkey (EADaily, December 4, 2025 — in Russian)
Meanwhile, the orphans allegedly “stolen” by Russia have been happily adopted into Russian families. Posted by: S | Dec 4 2025 8:17 utc | 101 That is correct. Newbie obsesses over casualty stuff. Posted by: Newbie | Dec 4 2025 8:53 utc | 102
Please do me a favor. Because I have no idea what you mean by any of it. It would help to know. Posted by: Oldbert | Dec 4 2025 9:03 utc | 103 A retaired Finnish staff officer using handle “Joppos123” recently wrote in a comment to blog post: Posted by: Catilina | Dec 4 2025 9:03 utc | 104
Posted by: Oldbert | Dec 4 2025 9:15 utc | 105 I never use machine translate. If need be, I translate myself. Posted by: Catilina | Dec 4 2025 9:25 utc | 106 104: Pretty Obvious was Putin ment: Decision Makers in there Bunkers will be first Hazeled. Ergo, No One to Negotiate with…. Posted by: Nobody | Dec 4 2025 9:28 utc | 107 Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 4 2025 6:02 utc | 91 Posted by: snake | Dec 4 2025 9:31 utc | 108 Britain and Norway are set to launch a joint fleet of warships to hunt Russian submarines in the North Atlantic. Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 9:47 utc | 109 104-what circumstances? Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 9:52 utc | 110 Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 9:52 utc | 110 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 4 2025 10:03 utc | 111 Posted by: Catilina | Dec 4 2025 9:03 utc | 105
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2025 10:16 utc | 112 This is a humiliating situation for Putin and Russia. I mean imagine bragging about controlling a completely destroyed backwater town and cracking jokes after suffering hundreds of thousands of casualties against an enemy you outnumber 3:1. Yet everybody in MoA is walking around with their genitals out like they’re hot log. It’s just so laughably embarrassing all around. Posted by: eisbock | Dec 4 2025 10:27 utc | 113 MS: Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2025 10:46 utc | 114 This is a humiliating situation for Putin and Russia… *yap yap yap* , *whine whine whine*
Posted by: pinche | Dec 4 2025 11:19 utc | 115 Finnish boots on the ground at the Russian frontier preparing an invasion towards St. Peterburg? Borders are sacred to Putin 😊
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 4 2025 12:11 utc | 117 For the Russian buffs on this site …
Zelensky: a year of fighting in Pokrovsk and Mirnograd cost AFU 120 troops. Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2025 12:36 utc | 119 Zelensky: a year of fighting in Pokrovsk and Mirnograd cost AFU 120 troops. Posted by: Newbie | Dec 4 2025 13:05 utc | 120 Not seen this mentioned yet, reports of a shoot-out near Kiev between members of the Ukrainian armed forces and the Ukrainian intelligence directorate, the GUR: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/12/04/1909468.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 4 2025 13:57 utc | 121 Not seen this mentioned yet, reports of a shoot-out near Kiev between members of the Ukrainian armed forces and the Ukrainian intelligence directorate, the GUR: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/12/04/1909468.html Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 14:17 utc | 122 Using the methods of pirates and Nazis: why NATO shouldn’t venture into geopolitical conflict Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 14:28 utc | 123 Discussion that the RF does not want a total collapse of Ukraine, because that would be an invitation for the west to come in and stabilize it. Interesting. See discussion by Co. ret. Tony Schaffer with Judge Napolitano at 19:07 to 21:05 Posted by: frithguild | Dec 4 2025 14:58 utc | 124 @John Gilberts | Dec 4 2025 1:24 utc | 80
Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 4 2025 15:05 utc | 125
. Posted by: seer | Dec 4 2025 15:06 utc | 126 Catilina@105…….if you don’t live in St Petersburg, talk is cheap, not funny. As was proven this past week, enemy drone and missile swarms can overwhelm AD systems, if you have one thousand interceptor missiles you are good for a combination of 1000 drones and missiles, should the enemy fire 1100, oh well guess one hopes the other 100 miss their targets, mind you one maybe two preemptive Nagasakis and St Peter’s will be uninhabitable……Moscow will be no different……the survivor can always go to Siberia or east, the Far East…. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 15:25 utc | 127 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 15:25 utc | 128 Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 15:36 utc | 128 Russia’s oil and gas revenues down 33.87% in November — ministry MOSCOW, December 3. /TASS/. Russia’s oil and gas revenues fell by 33.8% in November 2025 year-on-year to 530.9 bln rubles (6.8 bln) compared to 801.7 bln rubles in the previous year, according to TASS calculations and statistics from the Russian Finance Ministry. Posted by: arby | Dec 4 2025 15:39 utc | 129 Military Situation In Ukraine On December 4, 2025 (Maps Update)
Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 15:51 utc | 130
That’s a joke by the Russian parody Telegram account Imperiya ochen zla. Posted by: S | Dec 4 2025 16:01 utc | 131 Oh , it’s “Russia is loosing” trolls season again , 404 must be “winning” big time ^^. How’s “kounternatsup” going friends ? Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 4 2025 16:03 utc | 132 The Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine won’t be happy about this. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 4 2025 16:05 utc | 133 The true told in jest. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 4 2025 16:22 utc | 134 How to raise money when you are heavily sanctioned. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 4 2025 16:32 utc | 135 In the 13 to 15 percent range: Bank of Russia promises “caution” when cutting key interest rates Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 16:48 utc | 136 Macron warned fellow European leaders that Donald Trump could ‘betray Ukraine’ by pushing Kyiv to surrender territory to Russia without any security guarantees, according to a leaked transcript of a high-level call. Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 16:50 utc | 137 *** enemy drone and missile swarms can overwhelm AD systems, if you have one thousand interceptor missiles you are good for a combination of 1000 drones and missiles, should the enemy fire 1100, oh well guess one hopes the other 100 miss their targets, *** Posted by: frithguild | Dec 4 2025 17:05 utc | 138 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 15:25 utc | 128 Posted by: scc | Dec 4 2025 17:07 utc | 139 Zelensky plane was targeted by military-style drones, which flew towards its flight path as it arrived in Dublin, it has emerged. Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 17:15 utc | 140 @scc | Dec 4 2025 17:07 utc | 139
Now I know you are US american. Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 4 2025 17:17 utc | 141 Leaked phone call implies the most Russophobic EU states think US has betrayed Ukraine (=/ Zelensky) and Zelensky should be very careful. This means these EU states, or rather their elites, are tied to the HIP on the fate of Zelensky, which obviously wasn’t very wise of them to do.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2025 17:21 utc | 142 Still a calm day 1.275 AFU casualties Posted by: Newbie | Dec 4 2025 17:30 utc | 143
https://x.com/visionergeo/status/1996577803920142440 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 4 2025 17:38 utc | 145 Putin morally responsible for novichok poisoning says enquiry more than eight years later, convened by British oligarchs. Posted by: Truthsayer | Dec 4 2025 17:50 utc | 146 Posted by: Newbie | Dec 4 2025 17:38 utc | 145 Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 17:53 utc | 147 The slaughter of the Ukroids. It boggles my mind that people can so easily be brainwashed to go to their slaughter like that. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 4 2025 18:07 utc | 148 Medvedev: Russia Could Interpret Seizure of Russian Funds as a Casus Belli Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 18:10 utc | 149 The UK under Sir Keir and their EU quislings are hell bent for a general war with RF or are threatening such actions. Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 4 2025 18:15 utc | 150 Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 4 2025 18:15 utc | 150 Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 18:21 utc | 151 Jo 140 – the “Yeats” is equipped with a 57 mm or 76mm auto cannon. Was not there main gun operational. The “Yeats” is equipped with search radar systems and should have been able to track and attack the drones if necessary. Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 4 2025 18:25 utc | 152 dumfox | Dec 4 2025 18:21 utc | 151 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 4 2025 18:30 utc | 153 smartfox@129…….for clarity, the Governor of Crimea, not me btw, stated that their AD systems were unable to stop all projectiles which were launched ……so this is an important part, do read carefully……launched from across Russia’s lake, The Sea of Azov….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 18:43 utc | 154 LE William Butler Yeats is an offshore patrol vessel of the Irish Navy, 2200 tons, armed with modern search radar, and has a 76mm OTR auto cannon capable of firing 85 rpm. It is also armed with two 20mm cannons. Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 4 2025 18:46 utc | 155
Posted by: Cynic | Dec 4 2025 18:52 utc | 156 @154…… addendum: the Crimean defenders did not miss, they did not fail, heros all…..they just ran out of interceptors…….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 18:52 utc | 157 sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 18:43 utc | 154 Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 18:53 utc | 158 Cynic@156…….an Irish navel vessel, secretly deployed…….guess they waited for everyone to fall asleep………. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 18:55 utc | 159 tobias cole | Dec 4 2025 18:25 utc | 152 Posted by: Cynic | Dec 4 2025 18:59 utc | 160 Russia’s S-400 air defense system surpasses all foreign rivals — Almaz-Antey MOSCOW, December 4. /TASS/. The Russian-made S-400 surface-to-air missile system has demonstrated exceptional effectiveness in real combat conditions, and no foreign air defense weapon can rival it in its class, Almaz-Antey Group CEO Yan Novikov told TASS.
The S-400 Triumf (Triumph) system has also proven its value internationally. After the April 22 terrorist attack in the tourist town of Pahalgam in the Indian union territory of Jammu and Kashmir, India launched Operation Sindoor on May 7, targeting terrorist-related sites in Pakistan. The operation involved Russian-made military equipment deployed within the Indian army. Posted by: arby | Dec 4 2025 18:59 utc | 161 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 4 2025 18:30 utc | 153 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 4 2025 19:02 utc | 162 Guardian:
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 4 2025 19:04 utc | 163 Military Knowledge: KS-172 Air to Air Missile Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 19:05 utc | 164 163. Posted by: Truthsayer | Dec 4 2025 19:11 utc | 165 smartfox@158…….highly insane……ever met a Brit politician, it’s a job prerequisite, see: Bo Jo Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 4 2025 19:14 utc | 166 copied from Berletic’s X account Jul 07, 2025
Russia Has More Armored Vehicles Now Than In 2022 Dec 02, 2025
Posted by: arby | Dec 4 2025 19:15 utc | 167 .. ever met a Brit politician … ? Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 19:18 utc | 168 arby // 167 Posted by: Nobody Special | Dec 4 2025 19:28 utc | 169 the Russians no longer fight under armor Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 19:33 utc | 170 Cynic | Dec 4 2025 18:59 utc | 160
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 4 2025 20:07 utc | 172 Fire Point, the Ukrainian defense contractor behind the long-range Flamingo cruise missile, has broken ground on a military facility in Denmark, despite allegations linking the firm to a graft scandal in Ukraine’s energy sector, according to media reports. Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 20:40 utc | 173 After all, in 3 years, the West has gone from first world to second world on the way to (relative) third world.
You’re such a fucking monkey, LuvDumbarse. Posted by: Get Real | Dec 4 2025 20:43 utc | 174 Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 4 2025 17:17 utc | 141 Posted by: scc | Dec 4 2025 21:02 utc | 175 a reminder, or for newcomers re Skripal, that Craig Murray at the time wrote several good analytical articles with lots of thoughts from commentators, also highly recommend Rob Slane no longer active at The Blogmire but whose briilliant articles available via inteltoday.org ….the main thinking was UK plus USA intel tried to set up a false flag thingy on the back of a real Porton Down biochem exercise and it all went wrong is my understanding from a dedicated commentator there. Best article was 101 questions ,,,exposing such inconsistencies that no one can answer,without exposing the scheme. The Saker had some articles too, maybe saved -archived at unz.com and thesaker.is.xx3.kz Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 21:05 utc | 176
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Dec 4 2025 20:07 utc | 172 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 4 2025 21:13 utc | 177 Posted by: Get Real | Dec 4 2025 20:43 utc | 174
Posted by: seer | Dec 4 2025 15:06 utc | 127 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 4 2025 22:15 utc | 179 Sibiga, the Foreign Minister, stated at the Ukraine-NATO Council meeting that Kiev will not accept ‘ambiguous security guarantees’ and unilateral troop withdrawal requirements when concluding a peace agreement, reports Kiev Post.Sibiga also told NATO countries that ‘Russia is not winning’. 😂Ukraine is advancing backwards...@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 22:21 utc | 180 Even Ursula von der Leyen’s closest allies admit she is overstepping her bounds by proposing to use emergency measures to approve €210 billion in loans to Ukraine,” the newspaper emphasizes. Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 22:49 utc | 181
Posted by: Jo | Dec 4 2025 22:21 utc | 180 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 4 2025 22:50 utc | 182 Putin: Russia will liberate Donbass and New Russia (For the first time, NewRussia is also mentioned as a target to be liberated.)Ahead of his state visit to New Delhi, Vladimir Putin spoke with the Indian publication India Today. The Russian president discussed the fate of Donbass and New Russia, the US peace plan, and his meeting with US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff. read more: (use google translate) : https://de.rt.com/international/263788-putin-russland-wird-donbass-befreien/ Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 23:08 utc | 183
If you put together: Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2025 23:10 utc | 184 That comment about Novorussiya is VERY significant. Six months ago, I would have thought that while desirable, Dnepropetrovsk, the rest of Kherson, Zaporiazhia, Kharkov, Nikolayev and Odessa were goals just too far.Even Putin seemed willing to concede this. and JO 140 about the attack on Zelensky. Posted by: steve | Dec 4 2025 23:19 utc | 186 watcher | Dec 4 2025 23:18 utc | 185 Posted by: smartfox | Dec 4 2025 23:23 utc | 187 Posted by: watcher | Dec 4 2025 23:18 utc | 185
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 4 2025 23:29 utc | 188
Previously I’ve seen versions that have “We are advancing towards our objectives at a bearing of 180°”… *** Posted by: Cynic | Dec 4 2025 23:38 utc | 189 172 – The British have done it before. Solidarnosc leader Lech Walesa praised IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands in 1981. British media passed over it in silence. I only found out years later. Posted by: Waldorf | Dec 4 2025 23:46 utc | 190 Alexander Mercouris: ‘Crazy Plan’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 5 2025 0:06 utc | 191 JT: John Helmer Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 5 2025 0:38 utc | 192 Regarding a post by: Peter AU1 @ Dec 4 2025 18:07 Posted by: Quid Me Vexare | Dec 5 2025 0:44 utc | 193 For Peter and others *** A long chapter deals with hypnotism and it is really quite chilling how fragile the normal person is. *** Posted by: frithguild | Dec 5 2025 1:43 utc | 195 Ukrodumpty sat on a wall (once known as the “Berlin wall”) … Posted by: ThisOldMan | Dec 5 2025 1:52 utc | 196 The response by EU leaders of France, UK, and Germany was to describe the Witkoff/Kushner initiative sent by Trump as “betrayal”. Posted by: Bingo | Dec 5 2025 2:13 utc | 197 Buttons, buttons, which ones got the buttons? Posted by: Laurence | Dec 5 2025 3:16 utc | 199 Laurence @199 Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 5 2025 4:57 utc | 200 |
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