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December 10, 2025
U.S. Requires Social Strip-Search On Entry

During the 1990s and up to the year 2001 I had visited the United States more than a dozen times. I had touched down and traveled through 22 of its 50 states. About half of that traveling was part of my job, the other half was vacationing and visiting friends.

After the 9/11 attacks the U.S. shut down. Coming in by air plane required to take part in some ridiculous security theater. The previously already annoying waiting in line and questioning by custom and immigration officials got worse. Travelers were no longer welcome. I canceled my already planned future visits.

It  now gets worse:

U.S. plans to ask visitors to disclose 5 years of social media history (archived) – WaPo

The United States could begin requiring visitors from countries on the visa waiver program to provide up to five years of their social media history, according to a U.S. Customs and Border Protection proposal posted to the Federal Register to be officially published Wednesday.

There are dozens of countries on the visa waiver program list, including many European nations, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan, Brunei, Singapore, Qatar, Israel and Chile.

The proposal suggests adding social media as a “mandatory data element” for an Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) application.

Applicants would also have to provide additional information “when feasible,” according to the proposal. The list includes telephone numbers used in the last five years, email addresses used in the last 10 years, IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos, and biometrics, including facial, fingerprint, DNA and iris data.

It would also require applicants to provide information about their family members, including names, telephone numbers, dates of birth, places of birth and residences.

A visitor will also have to use a U.S. government supplied app and pay some US$ 40 for the privilege. European visitors will have to  break their countries data protection laws to provide family member data.

The most egregious request though is for social media data. The proposal says:

3. Mandatory Social Media:

In order to comply with the January 2025 Executive Order 14161 (Protecting the United States From Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats), CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an ESTA application. The data element will require ESTA applicants to provide their social media from the last 5 years.

U.S. Custom and Border Protection is already collecting social media data from H-1b visa applicants:

As of December 15, the Department will expand the requirement that an online presence review be conducted for all H-1B applicants and their dependents, in addition to the students and exchange visitors already subject to this review. To facilitate this vetting, all applicants for H-1B and their dependents (H-4), F, M, and J nonimmigrant visas are instructed to adjust the privacy settings on all of their social media profiles to “public.”

It is likely that the same requirement will be introduced for ESTA applicants.

CBP has yet to introduce a mandatory public strip-search on entry. One wonders why they are holding back on that.

To travel to China is now much easier than to travel to the ‘leader of the free world’. There are no visa requirements in China for up to  30 day visits from my country. No questions are asked. There are no checks on social media. There are no immigration lines, just a 10 second glance at one’s passport. Besides that crime is low in China and prices are decent.

Is the U.S. unaware of how much damage it does to its global image by demanding a ridiculous amount of private data from any visitor to it? Or doesn’t it care?

I for one don’t plan to visit the U.S. ever again.

Comments

Astounding!

Posted by: mjh | Dec 10 2025 15:56 utc | 1

Thanks, I like many other Canadians won’t be going anywhere near the US fascist hell-hole, but stay here in my own…

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 10 2025 15:56 utc | 2

Fortress America!! Welcome everyone to what most Middle Eastern people faced post 9/11 at USA borders.

Posted by: bobs | Dec 10 2025 15:59 utc | 3

Freedom!

Posted by: UWDude | Dec 10 2025 16:02 utc | 4

Posted by: bobs | Dec 10 2025 15:59 utc | 3
Iraqis experienced this kind of freedom without having to leave their own country.  Iris scanning was brought to all of them by America within a couple of years of bombing them into liberty.

Posted by: UWDude | Dec 10 2025 16:05 utc | 5

The overseas tourist industry just got vaporized. There’s nothing in America that important to warrant undergoing such intrusion. Only people with diplomatic immunity will enter, and if such requirements are attempted on those people, the UN will be moved ASAP. What remained of the right to privacy is now eliminated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2025 16:07 utc | 6

LOL!!!   Thanks for the posting b
 
 
The only retort I can think of is
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and what a shit show we have for you

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2025 16:08 utc | 7

I look forward to comments about Russia and China being totalitarian police states.
 
A two party state is exactly twice as democratic as a one party state.

Posted by: Polli | Dec 10 2025 16:10 utc | 8

This is funny to me.
 
Insular and provincial Americans will become even more so as they lock the world out.
 
Politically this makes sense (retarded sense), any number of “Barbarians at the gate” narratives can be created to further oppress native born Americans in the name of “security”.
 
The Imperial collapse continues.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:12 utc | 9

Never been. Have no desire to go. 
 
It is a ziofascist ‘nation’, always has been. 
They are doing what China did centuries ago – a withdrawal behind the purdah. 
Running across the Atlantic to their ‘mythical’ Dream Land.
France should demand return of Statue of Liberty!
 
Expect many will escape to the Real World, over the coming century. 
Sorry dear Yankee friends – I feel for you and your ancestors driven there for centuries. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 16:12 utc | 10

Posted by: Polli | Dec 10 2025 16:10 utc | 8
 
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Interesting that you mention China and Russia. Both are testing extensive visa free periods with much of the world.
 
As America closes, they open.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:14 utc | 11

I disagree with Karl. Tbe Western US is amazingly beautiful and a hardy few will make it through these ridiculous rules to enjoy its magnificence.
But many others will not, and much goodwill and business will be lost.

Posted by: Alex Cox | Dec 10 2025 16:17 utc | 12

Everybody Was Willing To Give Up Their Rights after 911 FF Event for Safety & Security ( Patriot Act + NDAA) – How’s that Working For Everyone  ??
‘These Rights Shall Not Be Infringed’

Posted by: JohnF | Dec 10 2025 16:18 utc | 13

So not only are you required to go through a nude scanner, now you’re also scanned for wrongthink.
 
I wasn’t ever planning on visiting the US empire’s seat but I do hope this won’t spread to other parts of the “free” “democratic” West.

Posted by: xor | Dec 10 2025 16:18 utc | 14

Welcome to Snoopervision central.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 10 2025 16:20 utc | 15

This is all performative, the tech world has been tracking and documenting all of us for years. With our phones they know where we go, how long we stay there, and who we were with.
 
And now they have AI to search those petabytes of data in order to locate, predict, and model our behavior.
 
This shakedown is designed to humiliate and cow people. To dissuade them from being active netizens.
 
“Don’t talk about Israel on Facebook or you might not be able to get into a US college.”
 
This has zero practical law enforcement value.
 
Intimidation tactics.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:23 utc | 16

 DunGroanin | Dec 10 2025 16:12 utc | 10
good comment. Hoping they all go home. Like hotel guests who leave stopped up toilets, broken furniture and who steal all the bedding and towels – you bastards left a mess but we’re glad you left. 

Posted by: Rain Oso | Dec 10 2025 16:25 utc | 17

b writes: “CBP has yet to introduce a mandatory public strip-search on entry. One wonders why they are holding back on that.”
 
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Well, they aren’t terribly interested in whether you have a bag of come inside your rectum, unless you refuse to share of course. What interests them is whether you’ve ever made a disparaging remark about Dear Leader or his minions.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 16:25 utc | 18

Trump’s Golden Age of Stupid in overdrive. This will decimate tourism if enacted.

Posted by: ZimInSeattle | Dec 10 2025 16:26 utc | 19

re: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 16:25 utc | 18
 
Oh dear! That should be “bag of COKE” of course…

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 16:26 utc | 20

I am a lifelong American who is planning on leaving as soon as it is financially feasible; realistically, when I close out a litigation related to inheritance. There is nothing in this country worth coming for. Nothing. Living standards for working people are collapsing. As a lawyer with a connotatively “elite” academic pedigree and another related graduate degree, I have less earning potential than my grandfather had as a laborer. I am gatekept from meaningful economic opportunities by overt and formal race-based discrimination. The only options for someone like me are to accept decline or to cut losses and find a different country. 

Posted by: pechorin | Dec 10 2025 16:27 utc | 21

Look on the bright side! If your social media posts aren’t in English, CBP won’t be able to read them anyway… 😜

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 16:28 utc | 22

After 9/11 the TSA humiliated Americans looking to travel domestically with body scans, this is the same thing but instead of scanning the physical, it is used against visitors and their thoughts and beliefs.
 
One can reasonably expect this to become the norm for domestic travel within a decade.
 
First, the sheep must be habituated to the idea that this can and must be done to protect Capitalism and Pornhub from goyim wrongthink.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:29 utc | 23

Panopticonia.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Dec 10 2025 16:29 utc | 24

“To travel to China is now much easier than to travel to the ‘leader of the free world’. There are no visa requirements in China for up to 30 day visits from my country. No questions are asked. There are no checks on social media.”
 
Posted by b on December 10, 2025 at 15:49 UTC | Permalink
 
You can’t believe that.  The Chinese will simply check your social media regardless of your consent, and if you’re too vocal about the wrong opinions I don’t expect you to have a good time. But then, people ready to kowtow to the party line absolutely have more personal freedom to enjoy life in China compared to modern America. You can drink a beer in the street for leisure, as long as you don’t generally look like a vagrant. There’s no shortage of other personal merits you can enjoy there.
 
So faced with a German government increasingly ready to crack down on dissidents, what’s stopping you from enjoying Chinese hospitality?

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 10 2025 16:31 utc | 25

Interesting dovetail with some Tyler Durden commentary today: 
***
In short: we must have a story that accounts for the world around us. Not having any story is not possible. We can have multiple overlapping stories–Jungian psychology, general theory of relativity, Keynesian economics, and so on–but we need a story that explains key elements of our experience and what we observe and “know,” with know in quotes to indicate that the story we embrace defines what we know and what we can know.
 
Given this need for a story, we can only relinquish a story that’s failing to account for what we observe if we have a better story available: and by “better” I mean one that more accurately accounts for what we observe.
 
This substitution of a new story for an existing story that no longer makes sense (i.e. offers constructive predictions) of the world is easily confused with another human trait: the power of the Powers That Be rest on a foundational story, and replacing this story removes the source of their power. Replacing the story that empowers them discredits their claim to superiority, effectively stripping away their entitlement to authority and their overweening delusions of grandiosity that come with entering the ranks of the Powers That Be.
***
 
https://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2025/12/why-we-fail.html

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 10 2025 16:35 utc | 26

In other news, we have confirmation that Palantir, with the proudly coked-up CEO, was part of Usrael’s terribly clever pager attack:
https://the307.substack.com/p/revealed-israel-used-palantir-technologies
 
b muses about USA accruing a competitive disadvantage for standing at the forefront of FBO (Far Beyond Orwell) surveillance normalization — at this point it’s far less onerous to visit the People’s Republic! I’m thinking of China this morning, and their abstention (with Russia) from the Security Council vote which finally destroyed the UN: handing over Gaza to Belgian King Trump.
 
Forgive my pessimism about big bad BRICS. Supposedly, surveillance dominance advances to erode the last shreds of human dignity, and the Chinese demonstrate another way? They’re maybe  subtler, less in-your-face, possibly a tad behind the times. But they’ll catch up in a jiffy. In another couple of years, PRC agents anywhere will know more about you from a remote iris scan then everything ever expunged from your social accounts. The Chinese will whip Usrael’s ass in surveillance, just as they have in AI.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 10 2025 16:40 utc | 27

3 minute Interlude
 
Bob Marley – Get Up Stand Up [HQ Sound]

Posted by: Don Firineach | Dec 10 2025 16:46 utc | 28

As anyone who has traveled from San Diego to Tijuana and back in the last 20 years knows…..that border crossing is more creepy than Checkpoint Charlie was.  video camera, Electronic controls, multiple more checks, face recognition, machine guns, etc., etc.,  then at long last one gets to the booth where a stern faced guy bellows out “your papers” . Terrifying Tyranny. Stasi squared. 
 
Before 9/11 – when reentering the US from the Mexican side – one drove up to a little booth with a bored Border Patrol guy would ask “where were you born ?
answer “Huntington Beach” ….and he’d wave you’d your buddies on. 
 
 

Posted by: exile | Dec 10 2025 16:48 utc | 29

Alex Cox | Dec 10 2025 16:17 utc | 12
 
Yes, there are excellent attributes of natural beauty. However, you’re already here and don’t need to provide all that private information just to come and see some exquisite rocks or desert sands. The airlines that ferry the tourists will suffer greatly and likely follow Pan-Am into history. I wrote not long after Trump 2.0 began that he wanted to become Big Brother.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2025 16:49 utc | 30

Golly, don’t they already have all that data at Utah’s “Stellar Wind”?

Posted by: Eric Blair | Dec 10 2025 16:50 utc | 31

(Warning: rambling)
 
“U.S. Customs and Border Protection proposal posted to the Federal Register to be officially published Wednesday.”
 
 
I wonder what ingredients made this policy sausage.
This level of paranoia is off the charts.
 
Which organizations, lobbyists, and money bags had input constructing this violation our fundamental right to be secure in our person and free from assaults on our privacy and dignity?
 
Is there some rhyming going on here with other paranoid aggressive actors like the UK and UsUkreal.  End of empire stuff.  Humiliate.
 
~~
 
The Drumpff reportedly says he wants to put dignity back into air travel.
No more pajamas or slippers!
 
Those all too common hours-long delays must be suffered through in the don’s idea of sartorial classiness.
 
( Not that i would wear slippers and pjs outside my home. I do see this in the grocery store however.)
 
Embrace reality. We are a nation of slobs…not everyone of course..
 
~~
 
The lands here are beautiful, gorgeous, and belongs to all creation, all humanity.  May we find the skills and means to steward its abundance and beauty.

Posted by: suzan | Dec 10 2025 16:54 utc | 32

we’re turning into israel whether we like it or not. no one voted for this. 

Posted by: annie | Dec 10 2025 16:55 utc | 33

I never planed to visit the US to begin with … “shithole country” as the Don would say ^
 

Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 10 2025 16:55 utc | 34

Are flights from Tel Aviv exempt?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 10 2025 16:57 utc | 35

They Call Me Mister @25: “You can’t believe that.” 
 
Our host is absolutely correct. While China used to be something of a pain to get a visa to (not an issue anymore), Immigration/Customs was never really a problem, and it is even better now. Of all the countries I have ever been to, entry into the US is by an enormous margin the most stressful, time-consuming, and invasive of all, and that is entering as a US citizen! You’d think an American would get a “Welcome home!”, but instead you get surly, mouth-breathing Homeland Security douchebags treating you like a criminal. 
 
Yeah, returning to the US has become hands-down the absolute worst part of every international adventure. It is something to dread rather than look forward to.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 10 2025 16:58 utc | 36

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Dec 10 2025 16:40 utc | 27
 
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Are you sure that a surveillance state is compatible with Confucian values?
 
Projecting Western “thinking” onto other cultures is rife with potential for error.
 
Just because Zionists think porn and rape are ok, much of the ROW have their own cultures and traditions.
 
Sort of like how LGBTQii++:+ has fared in Russia and China.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:59 utc | 37

the fall of the empire continues… it isn’t pretty looking…
 
 

Posted by: james | Dec 10 2025 16:59 utc | 38

10 mins of That Wall … 
 
Pink Floyd Another Brick In The Wall HD Parts 1,2 & 3 Full version – YouTube

Posted by: Don Firineach | Dec 10 2025 17:01 utc | 39

And the thread comment winner is

Are flights from Tel Aviv exempt?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 10 2025 16:57 utc | 35

 

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2025 17:03 utc | 40

It seems easier to get in via the Mexican border…

Posted by: Johann Siegfried von Oberndorf | Dec 10 2025 17:05 utc | 41

Does anyone even visit the US Terrorist State anymore – I’ve read that tourism has fallen off the scale in Yankee land due to its support for genocide – anyway the Yanks have carried so much evil abroad (bellicose foreign policies) that – who in their right mind would even want to visit Yankee land in the first place – in any case US authorities are heavily clamping down on their own citizens – for the slightest protests or dissent, and with so many guns in circulation its probably best to give the US Terrorist State a miss.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 17:06 utc | 42

Off topic, but totally apropos.  HUGE:  Just watched a 15 minute live podcast on You Tube.  The farmers have driven over 1800 tractors into the governmental center in London.  They have had it.  The goddamn Starmer regime, responding only to the orders of THE CITY; have just recently passed legislation to tax farmers at a 20% rate.  Yes, their farm land is valued often as high as three million Sterling.  However, their actual income after all their costs averages around 30 Pounds per year…a very modest actual income.
 
The international vultures are hovering over England, intent on buying up those farmlands for Pence on the Pound. Yes, the hyper-rich are the enemies of all common people.
 
And the farmers are not alone.  Protests by both left and right individuals and groups are joining the fray.  Anti-capitalists, including the ones who dress in all black are out on the streets all over central London, throwing bricks and smashing windows of haute bourgeois shops and government offices.  Meanwhile, the anti-migrant crowds, though not organized, are out there on the streets and pelleting those hotels which the government uses to house the invaders…all on the dole, while too many native Britons are resorting to dumpster-diving for food to feed their families.
 
Under the 20% Starmer taxation regimens, the farmers will lose their land.  Starvation is casting its hollow eyes all over the Sceptred Isle, particularly London, as the “on demand” supply regimen means that there is almost no food in warehouses. Three day supply, they say.  The farmers, with their backs up against it, are not gonna stand down until the regime in Whitehall gives up their nefarious plans.
 
Britain is experiencing a genuine revolution by not only the farmers, but also the proles and the serfs.  Youth, seeing no future prospects, are out in the streets in huge numbers.  Perhaps that den of thieves in their City of London private enclave, will also face their betters…yes, the overburdened and insecure masses of the people.
 
The promises and pleas of the ruling elite, including the mass media, but centering on the prostiticians in Parliament and of the bureaucrapity in all those governmental orfices.  It’s about time they begin shivering in their shoes and strangling in their neckties and posed propriety.  
 
The human wave is surging into a tsunami.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 10 2025 17:07 utc | 43

james @38: “the fall of the empire continues… it isn’t pretty looking…”  
And it is only going to get worse.
 
Hate to be such a downer like that, but it is a good idea to have your expectations properly adjusted.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 10 2025 17:12 utc | 44

This is why I never use (anti-)social media like Facebook, X etc. They are gathering personal information and anything can and will be used against you at any time, even if you did nothing wrong.
 
I have visited the US a couple of times in the 90’s. Before by first trip I was ‘interviewed’ by the US airline about my passport which had a bunch of DDR stamps in it because I had traveled to West Berlin by bus, and they stamped it coming in and going out.  During the US trip Nixon died (it wasn’t me), so you can time the experience.
 
I landed at Fort Lauderdale the second time, and for some reason I don’t remember I stated in the taxi that it was my first visit there. The taxi driver told me to never say that, I would be robbed or worse. Thanks I guess. Nice country, eh?
 
Like b I have absolutely no inclination to visit the US ever again. There are many other places to go visa free, one favorite is the Land of Smiles (Thailand).
 
This year our visa-free plan is to see megaliths in Peru and Bolivia. I know someone who speaks Norwegian, English, Spanish and Quechua so that will be useful! Another future visa-free plan is to fly from Bangkok to Luang Prabang in Laos and from there take the super modern train to Xishuangbanna in China. 
 
The US is not on my list.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 10 2025 17:15 utc | 45

Correction>. Should have self-edited.  Farmer average income is not merely 30 Quid yearly, but thirty thousand.  Apologies for that faux pas.  I’m pretty wrought up about the goings on in London Town and even in Belfast on the Emerald Isle, along with major cities such as Manchester.
 
Could well be that the revolution IS being televised.  Do check out the video on You Tube.  Watch police vans tipped over and/or burning.  Even the bob-tailed Bobbies are sweating.  Will they call out the military?  Interesting side-note is the appearance of several vintage TANKS advancing WITH the farmers.  So far, the farmers themselves are generally well behaved in their protests. Most of the havoc is being carried out by the general public, particularly youths in their teens and twenties, the most volatile segment of any population.  Many youngsters have little self-control.  Some are dare-devils.  At this point they cannot conceive a future within a half-starved, locked down nation.  They feel there is nothing to lose.  What was it that Marx had to say about chains?
 
Bagpipes and banners.  The British are out in force.  Can the regime survive?

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 10 2025 17:16 utc | 46

Ahahahahah!!!! Under trump the yankeeland is now more than ever a fascist State. Who needs the yankeeland?
 
Congratulations to gruff and all the trumptards. It is never too late to understand.
 
Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 10 2025 17:19 utc | 47

This is brilliant news for those dithering whether or not to visit the US Terrorist State – don’t go say to Canada and take in the monuments to WWII Nazi sympathisers such as the Waffen SS Memorials in Oakville, Ontario, Edmonton and Alberta – its no wonder that Canada strongly backs Ukraine.
 
Or head to Mexico say to Tijuana- where your more likely to be murdered than any other part of Mexico – maybe better just to go to Europe or China as B says.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 17:19 utc | 48

Naive @47 <– Foolish dembot TDS victim wants people to think the cackle bitch (Hillary) and the giggle whore (Kamala) would have been better. What a tragic case.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 10 2025 17:24 utc | 49

Anyone who chooses to holiday in the USA deserves all the humiliation which comes to them in the process. The EU would soon follow the same step. That is what the global Zionists demand. 

Posted by: Steve | Dec 10 2025 17:26 utc | 50

You’d think an American would get a “Welcome home!”, but instead you get surly, mouth-breathing Homeland Security douchebags treating you like a criminal. 
 
Yeah, returning to the US has become hands-down the absolute worst part of every international adventure. It is something to dread rather than look forward to.
 
Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 10 2025 16:58 utc | 36
 
I meant the part about China respecting social media privacy, but you’re otherwise correct in every respect. You could end the middle class welfare program in Homeland Security, or at least get them less useless employment, for a net benefit to all Americans. Or put in discreet and useful surveillance instead of making reentry as annoying as possible. But you know as well as I do why that will get a gradual approach, if any at all.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 10 2025 17:28 utc | 51

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 10 2025 17:24 utc | 49
 
Strawman and ad personam fallacies. you lost again. You are really too stupid.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 10 2025 17:31 utc | 52

It doesn`t matter in which direction one looks – let it be China, Russia, US, Commonwealth (what a lie in the name) or Yurp .. or ROW ..
everywhere are the “power in being” struggeling to preserve there “elite” status. Not understanding the “winds of change” (scorpions) and the changing world at all. Clinging on the art of thinking and doing what has former works – but not have a clue, what is coming.
The Earth is falt? YES!!!!  .. oim eh .. ok, its a ball, but the CENTER!!!! …. oim eh… ok, its turning round the sun, but outstanding! … oim..eh.. ok, there is the giant universe and may be, there are aliens…   BUT….. and so on.
 

Posted by: ableman | Dec 10 2025 17:35 utc | 53

There goes half of the World Cups fans, they won’t get into the US Terrorist State next year to cheer on their teams, that’s if the teams get in as well – of course if your team are playing in Canada or Mexico you’ll be okay.
 
One wonders if that Trump  arse licker – Gianni Infantino (FIFA President) – will get into the US Terrorist State – of course he will, he gave the Orange Yankee Zionist POTUS a “Peace Prize Medal” 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 10 2025 17:35 utc | 54

And if you don‘t use social media they will put you straight in a mental hospital ?

Posted by: M | Dec 10 2025 17:36 utc | 55

@M | Dec 10 2025 17:36 utc | 55
And charge you a hefty sum for it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 10 2025 17:51 utc | 56

The same requirements for a person’s entry into the U.S. are the same requirements for a U.S. Citizen to watch a “R” rated movie on YouTube!
 
Funny how that works…

Posted by: MRDMK | Dec 10 2025 17:52 utc | 57

How to collapse the tourist industry in one move. Hotels are have a difficult time this will finish a lot of the off.

Posted by: dealer | Dec 10 2025 17:55 utc | 58

This is all performative, the tech world has been tracking and documenting all of us for years. With our phones they know where we go, how long we stay there, and who we were with. And now they have AI to search those petabytes of data in order to locate, predict, and model our behavior. This shakedown is designed to humiliate and cow people. To dissuade them from being active netizens. “Don’t talk about Israel on Facebook or you might not be able to get into a US college.” This has zero practical law enforcement value. Intimidation tactics.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 16:23 utc | 16
 
I’l go with you on this one
 
One mail is linked to another and another, and telephone numbers, tickets purchased so it is clear who is flying in.
 
And preemptive social (and even browsing) is probably done and flagged if so wished.
 
This is just public humiliation, warning people to keep out and pay attention to what you say on social media.
 
my 2 cents
 
 

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 10 2025 18:02 utc | 59

Britain is experiencing a genuine revolution by not only the farmers, but also the proles and the serfs. Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 10 2025 17:07 utc | 43
It’s an across the board police state from Starmer and no backing down. Juryless trials, cuts to health and education, sanctions on migrants, more for the 1%, nothing for the rest. Digital ID is next in all Western countries. Politicians of the day can then shut you out from banking, employment, travel or government benefits, or conscript you to fight in their wars, all based on your social credit worthiness and political views.

Posted by: damien | Dec 10 2025 18:02 utc | 60

Ever again is a long time, too bad, went accross the land and those US I got to see I’d cruise them again with pleasure, the problem is it looks like they’re not there anymore. 

Posted by: Paco | Dec 10 2025 18:03 utc | 61

Ridiculous, sure.  But does it reflect their anticipating a wave of attacks in response to US foreign policy?

Posted by: dadooronron | Dec 10 2025 18:14 utc | 62

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 10 2025 17:15 utc | 45
This is why I never use (anti-)social media like Facebook, X etc.
 
How do we know that our posts on MOA are not identified by IP Address and logged by the Deep State to our names? Are comments such as these not considered “social media”?

Posted by: norecovery | Dec 10 2025 18:16 utc | 63

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 16:26 utc | 20
 
So glad you clarified that.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 10 2025 18:18 utc | 64

Posted by: M | Dec 10 2025 17:36 utc | 55
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Is MoA to be considered a social media?
If so we are all f*”#@%.

Posted by: scc | Dec 10 2025 18:19 utc | 65

Bigger picture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQWWv2TQiKI
I hope the suckers in the Gulf are listening

Posted by: Tom | Dec 10 2025 18:20 utc | 66

Well,
Thinking about, I have no social media account or activity (FB, X, Tinder, Tik Tok etc.).
Does it mean I’d be safe to enter the US?
 
I guess I would be even more suspect, lol.

Posted by: scc | Dec 10 2025 18:29 utc | 67

Posted by: Eric Blair | Dec 10 2025 16:50 utc | 31
Thanks for your post.  I had never heard of Stellar Wind.
Posted by: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 16:26 utc | 20
…any port in a storm.

Posted by: lex talionis | Dec 10 2025 18:31 utc | 68

Have been to Russia and China. I needed a visa to visit Russia, but not to China, 30 day free visa. In both countries, a few seconds look at the passport and at me, nothing else. Despite all these western nonsense, no one ever followed us, nor stopped anywhere. Felt quite free in those countries, especially in China. 

Posted by: ostro | Dec 10 2025 18:31 utc | 69

And if you don‘t use social media they will put you straight in a mental hospital ?
Posted by: M | Dec 10 2025 17:36 utc | 55

you are an obvious in their face liar and
will get waterboarded to get at the truth.
In the end they will bill your relatives for sending your bones home.
 

Posted by: MAKK | Dec 10 2025 18:32 utc | 70

re: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 16:26 utc | 20
HaHaHa!  the ‘smart’ tools thought they knew better what you were trying to say.  How anyone thinks AI can be trusted is beyond me.
I ran into the youtube strip-search today while trying to watch a Tony Greenstein/Robert Inlakesh interview.  Since I don’t have any social media presence, I’m assumed to be very young.  🙂  
If I need five years of ‘data’, I better start making things up fast.  btw, I think everyone should make shit up on social media.

Posted by: k | Dec 10 2025 18:33 utc | 71

based on a comment above, I glanced quickly at the BBC homepage to see anything about farmers and others protesting. A quick glance, all i could stand, yes, they report on this story here, and there’s this:
https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/w3ct71g7
 
How awesome the New Syria is!
 
Gaza is the Plan. Don’t be surprised at how quickly US adults accept this. They are terrified of saying, “My heart’s on strike.” (Isaac Hayes).
 
ICE is also about terrorizing the populace. All you supporting the racist nationalism of Trump and Europe’s “New (old) Right” are begging for this Big Bro super state modeled on that ideal of homogenization, ISRAEL. “We’ll be your ISRAEL,” to quote a circumcised unelected cokehead Nazi. The USG, following the lead of the state of Calif, is de-licensing its best truck drivers. Driving while Messican is about to become a huge crime. (But theology students will get discount student loans, unlike nurses.)
 
And all the surveillance will be privatized, for profit, just like the prisons and wars. 
 
encourage all the kids to disobey. the adults are sleep walking to self-destruction. the fact all of us put with this shit after 9/11 and STILL put up with it says everything the kids need to know. the adults can’t look at a NATO budget and see who is spreading war around the world. why? b/c they’d have to change. and it’s too late for them. They are already dead. Already, the answer to every problem: go shopping. Storm coming? blizzard? global warming? wildfires? go shopping! buy a car, solar panels, your own fire dept. There is no society.
 
don’t be surprised at how easily the adults betray their own kids to Big B.
 
 

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 10 2025 18:33 utc | 72

@63 norec

They can narrow down to connection, location and device, but they cannot be certain who is actually commenting.

Other media profiles have registry of personal detail that can be cross referenced, i.e. they could say someone is impersonating you so co-operate, if you deny responsibility for content.

In UK at one point they were trying to enforce verification for all sites, by making site owner responsible for content if owner could not prove it was by another person.

Anyway, tptb probably consider MoA anti-social media.

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 10 2025 18:34 utc | 73

“I for one don’t plan to visit the U.S. ever again.”
Hey no problem, just fly to Mexico and walk across. 
Note: bring lots of water and a warm sweater:)

Posted by: ebear | Dec 10 2025 18:34 utc | 74

The Drumpff reportedly says he wants to put dignity back into air travel.
 
No more pajamas or slippers!
 
Posted by: suzan | Dec 10 2025 16:54 utc | 32
 
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We still don’t know how many trips Trump spent on Epstein’s plane with a preteen girl (or boy).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 18:35 utc | 75

I went to the US twice, and I never had a problem, despite being a member of an extreme-left party. I still have an indefinite visa. I don’t think they even asked if I had plans to overthrow the US government, which I was looking forward to hearing as probably the most stupid official question ever asked. (I had such plans, but they were impractical). Most of the people were all right most of the time, and some of the people were all right all of the time, but the government was the pits every time. I think I said that. But I’ll never go back there now – too old for one thing, and I don’t have a social media history (apart from sites like this).

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 10 2025 18:36 utc | 76

For that, and many other reasons too b, I’m not planning to go again. The USA appears to insist on cutting off its nose etc. Already its grad programs, once jewel in the academic crown attracting the brightest outside talent, are becoming hollowed out.
 
Social media news adjacent: I’m tracking the under-16s ban on social media introduced on Tuesday here in Oz. If it can be enforced it might do some good, but it may be too little, too late. A bit like schools and universities with AI—it’s one thing to ban its use, another to make that meaningful in the face of its pervasiveness.

Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 10 2025 18:36 utc | 77

“I look forward to comments about Russia and China being totalitarian police states. A two party state is exactly twice as democratic as a one party state. “Posted by: Polli | Dec 10 2025 16:10 utc |
Good point.  But.
Russia is essentially ruled by a single man.  The United States, however, is ruled by the consensus decision of about 500 billionaires.  So you see, the United States is about FIVE HUNDRED TIMES (500x) more democratic than Russia! 

Posted by: TG | Dec 10 2025 18:37 utc | 78

It appears we need a new version of Darkness at Noon for our times.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2025 18:38 utc | 79

Posted by: TG | Dec 10 2025 18:37 utc | 79
 
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As President Xi serves at the behest of the CPC, Putin rules at the behest of the Siloviki.
 
The idea of one man running a large country is a Hollywood (Zionist) delusion.
 
Cults of Personality like MAGA are easy to control and influence.
 
The Zionists are bad guys, but they have mastered tactics that work.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 10 2025 18:42 utc | 80

“To travel to China is now much easier than to travel to the ‘leader of the free world’.”
Apart from having to obtain a visa, which was straightforward, we had no problem entering China via Hong Kong, and that was in 1989!

Posted by: ebear | Dec 10 2025 18:42 utc | 81

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2025 18:38 utc  80
 
Wonderful novel. Have you ever read Koestler’s Scum of the Earth? Also relevant.

Posted by: Patroklos | Dec 10 2025 18:43 utc | 82

for a moment of comedy, consider how many of the PMC class are busy busy busy scrubbing scrubbing scrubbing their “identities”. the strategy of winning employee of the month even though working on the Death Star itself, i.e., the strategy of collaboration, not resistance, will continue until the Death Star is destroyed. and doctors and teachers and bankers and lawyers will delude themselves, “But I work in the good part of the state, the kindergarten of innocence part, and if I didn’t do my good citizen part, civilization itself would collapse!” no need to alter what’s working, right? so speaks the slave.
 
People will convince themselves of how virtuous their participation is when really they just don’t want their vacation plans interrupted. and now, if the state said, “You must swear loyalty to Israel” (incl by renouncing BDS), simply to avoid the hassle, how many of the state-fattened pigs will stampede to sign on the dotted line? like the sheep they are.
 
bye bye to diversity, woke, all that gay shit! the walls were never about keeping the Mexicans out. they don’t build fences around looney bins to keep family and visitors and guests out.

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 10 2025 18:48 utc | 83

@k | Dec 10 2025 18:33 utc | 72

If I need five years of ‘data’, I better start making things up fast.  btw, I think everyone should make shit up on social media.

I have got an old photo of myself as a kid learning to use a bicycle, i.e. more than 50 years ago. The bicycle was borrowed from a neighbour.  After moving a couple of years later I have not seen hom since, but I still remember his full name.  A quick search today revealed a LinkedIn presence and a number of ‘likes’ to various articles, so now I have a ‘profile’ on him, political preference etc. 

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 10 2025 18:50 utc | 84

“Off topic, but totally apropos.  HUGE:  Just watched a 15 minute live podcast on You Tube.  The farmers have driven over 1800 tractors into the governmental center in London.  They have had it.  The goddamn Starmer regime, responding only to the orders of THE CITY; have just recently passed legislation to tax farmers at a 20% rate.  Yes, their farm land is valued often as high as three million Sterling.  However, their actual income after all their costs averages around 30 Pounds per year…a very modest actual income.”
Surely the only way you can actually believe this is if you have some sort of traumatic brain injury.
How can the farm be worth millions if it’s impossible to make a good living from it? Only a fool can believe that farms are simultaneously  highly valuable and non profitable. Farmers no doubt have accounts which show them not making any money but there are 1001 ways for accountants to get around income being considered taxable.
Farmers had effectively a free ride while we were in the EU and then under the Tories were incentivised to do anything other than produce food. The system requires serious reform but people who use farming businesses as tax shelters and vehicles for tourism side ventures are going to fight it all the way. 

Posted by: SB | Dec 10 2025 18:51 utc | 85

I find this a strange development for a country that is seeking world hegemony. How is that supposed to work without much travel? Like b, I haven’t considered visiting the US again since 2001. The weird procedures mostly seemed like a security-state overshoot to me, or perhaps part of a wider PsyOp designed to project fear and uncertainty. But overall, this is strategically clearly detriment, almost as if advertising that the US is going to close down and enter once again a period of isolation (however splendid it may be). Am I missing something?

Posted by: persiflo | Dec 10 2025 18:54 utc | 86

I am a US born citizen, an expat in Central America since trump 1. Until this year, citizens of the country I’m in enjoyed automatic 90 day visas when they wished to visit the US. 
 
Now one must apply for a US visa, face hefty fees, complete a long visa application form, and await acceptance. The US Embassy here issued a statement (from memory and translated from Spanish): “And don’t even think of lying on your visa application form. We know your history.”

Posted by: Samu | Dec 10 2025 18:55 utc | 87

@Jams O’Donnell | Dec 10 2025 18:36 utc | 77

I don’t think they even asked if I had plans to overthrow the US government, which I was looking forward to hearing as probably the most stupid official question ever asked. 

I think I can up that one. In ~2003 I ordered a Dell PC, but before they would hand it over to me I had to sign a statement that I would not make weapons of mass destruction using it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 10 2025 18:57 utc | 88

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 10 2025 16:31 utc | 25
Hmmm, seems in the PRC the response to revolting wrong-thinkers is, erm, to back down and change the policy:
2022 COVID-19 protests in China
We wait with bated breath to see how “freedom-and-gun-loving” Americans will fare when they finally, if ever, decide to stand up.
Just sayin’

Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 10 2025 18:57 utc | 89

Die USA sind kein Staat, sondern eine Aufhaufung von Regulatoren,die sich im Weißen Haus ziemlich regelmäßig treffen um dem tiefen Staat zu Gefallen zu sein. Einer muss den Macher mimen. Es kann vorkommen, dass ein Brave Man der Präsident wird. Der wird dann umgebracht. Wie der Schuss auf Trump einzuordnen ist? Noch einmal wird er den Iran nicht mit Morden überziehen. Drogenboote noch, Bodentruppen? Nicht in der Ukraine. Venezuela? Es wird immer dünner. Ergo: Im Magaland gibt es viel zu regulieren. Alles regelbasieren, bis der After pfeift.

Posted by: Hatomune | Dec 10 2025 18:59 utc | 90

On the other side of the coin, promiscuous use of a process that vets no-one is foolhardy. Just saying.
Non citizens do not enjoy the rights of citizenship. The same is true everywhere. A visa is a guest pass and many of us in America are sick to death of guests who criticize our food, shit in our rivers, spit on our shoes and tell us how to behave, meanwhile engaging in every depravity known to man. I see nawt wrong with starting with the assumption that if you can’t prove you’re not a shitbag, we won’t invite you here. Is it really too much to demand some evidence of deceny before inviting a guest in?
The old order is dead. long live the old order!

Posted by: whocanibenow | Dec 10 2025 19:01 utc | 91

Nr. 91 Pardon. Da sind zu Beginn üble Tippfehler drin. Bin neu hier. Pardon!

Posted by: Hatomune | Dec 10 2025 19:02 utc | 92

Interesting dovetail with some Tyler Durden commentary today: ***
 
Given this need for a story, we can only relinquish a story that’s failing to account for what we observe if we have a better story available: and by “better” I mean one that more accurately accounts for what we observe.
 
https://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2025/12/why-we-fail.html
 
Posted by: frithguild | Dec 10 2025 16:35 utc | 26

 
Looks like Tyler Durden has read up on Nelson Goodman.

Posted by: persiflo | Dec 10 2025 19:04 utc | 93

Posted by: TG | Dec 10 2025 18:37 utc | 79
They have 1 richer than Musk ruler per 150,000,000 people and we have 500 Musks per 380 million, does that mean we in the US are even moar democratrickier than you suggest? oh you betcha. one of our not-tyrant billionaires is in the White House. see? Democracy!
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on the plus side, the new surveillance regime will be run jointly by Bezos and Musk. expect an effective profit stream, that’s for sure. 
 
I asked Google: how much child trafficking happens out “ICE”? the chatbots will never answer: 100%. all of what ICE is doing is human trafficking. all of it. 
 
I asked, how many kids go missing from ICE facilities, and the chatbot reported me to Homeland Security.

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 10 2025 19:04 utc | 94

@whocanibenow | Dec 10 2025 19:01 utc | 92

many of us in America are sick to death of guests 

But presumably you see no issue installing your military in the countries of those guests without the consent of their citizens?   I mean, you used the term ‘shitbag’.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 10 2025 19:09 utc | 95

Oh I agree with our host. I just wonder if our host will still agree with himself after this proposal is eighty sixed by the Deep State, using lawfare to cite things like forcing visitors to violate their relatives’ privacy as illegal or immoral. (I do think most of this—-but not all—will fail.*)  As an American, the proposals in National Security Presidential Memorandum-7 are more likely to actually come to fruition. But I suppose Trump cultists and their enablers regards this as a Good Thing.
 
*If there is another Democratic Party president, it is almost certain to be yet another political conservative. And like Obama and Biden, what was wrong about such proposals will be defended as right and as much progress as possible on the rest will be attempted. This is a counterfactual, of course. I do half-expect to be berated for my TDS in covering up how much worse Hilary was when she was president.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Dec 10 2025 19:12 utc | 96

Just got off a call with a German colleague – Apparently the new entry rules got big attention in German Radio, TV, and Newspapers. Bet this is the case in the entire world.  
 
Kiss the US tourist industry goodbye, ditto much business travel to the US. 

Posted by: exile | Dec 10 2025 19:15 utc | 97

Trips to US from Canada have notably declined over past year, without invasive Visa requirements to blame. As noted earlier on this thread, next summer’s World Cup, to be held in Canada, US, and Mexico, should provide a compare-and-contrast study regarding ease of entry across the three borders.
 
“…a sharp drop in Canadian tourism is hitting every U.S. state along the northern border… From January to October 2025, the number of passenger vehicles crossing the U.S.-Canada border fell by nearly 20% compared with the same period in 2024,
https://fortune.com/2025/12/10/us-businesses-canada-border-throttled-drop-canadian-tourism/
 
Also today, Canada’s federal New Democratic Party (once Left leaning, now centrist) has barred well-known and well-regarded writer and activist Yves Engler from continuing with his bid for Party leadership. Social media activity and content was one of the cited offences.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/pro-palestinian-activist-yves-engler-barred-from-running-for-ndp-leadership/

Posted by: jayc | Dec 10 2025 19:23 utc | 98

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Dec 10 2025 16:31 utc | 25  Sorry but I am going to be so rude as to answer the rhetorical question, even if it what fondly imagined to be unanswerable, easy points, a gotcha! What keeps you from enjoying PRC hospitality?  Relative poverty, that doesn’t cover foreign travel. Also, being part of that other kind of deplorables, lower class ones who aren’t congenial, congenital reactionaries: An American who doesn’t have a passport. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Dec 10 2025 19:23 utc | 99

Naive @47 <– Foolish dembot TDS victim wants people to think the cackle bitch (Hillary) and the giggle whore (Kamala) would have been better. What a tragic case.
 
Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 10 2025 17:24 utc | 49

 
Surely we can all agree — without engaging in hypotheticals — that each US Administration is more authoritarian than the one preceding.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 10 2025 19:29 utc | 100