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December 18, 2025
Russia Is In A Security Dilemma – Europe Pretends To Be In One

Yesterday the President of the Russian Federation took part in an extended board meeting of the Ministry of Defense.

This is a yearly event meant to recap the developments in the military sphere over last year and to give a high level outlook of the future. This goes from strategic overview to details of operations. It touches on weapon supplies, technical development, medical, social and housing issues of the military. The addressee is mainly the Russian military but also the national and international public.

President Vladimir Putin spoke first, followed by a detailed presentation by Defense Minister Andrey Belousov followed by another Putin talk. Both Putin parts are available in English at the Kremlin site. Belousov’s presentation is only available in the Russian language transcript of the event. Karlof1 has put up an English machine translation of all parts at his website. There is also a video of the event available with English live translation.

The whole thing is lengthy.

The most important point, in my opinion, of Putin and Belausov said is about the potentially upcoming conflict with NATO. Russia feels threatened!

This from Putin’s first part [emph. add.]:

We are aware that that the Kiev regime is backed by the potential of the countries comprising the world’s largest military-political bloc, NATO. Large-scale military assistance is being continuously provided, with advisers, instructors, and mercenaries dispatched, and intelligence data shared.

Today, we can see that the geopolitical situation remains tense throughout the world, and even critical in some regions. NATO countries are actively building up and modernising their offensive forces, and creating and deploying new types of weapons, including in outer space.

Meanwhile, people in Europe are being indoctrinated with fears of an inevitable confrontation with Russia, with claims that preparations must be made for a major war. Various figures who have held or continue to hold positions of responsibility appear to have simply forgotten what that responsibility entails.

They are whipping up hysteria, guided by momentary, personal or group political interests rather than the interests of their people. I have said many times that this is a lie and an irrational narrative about an imaginary Russian threat to European countries. But they are doing this deliberately.

The truth is that Russia has always, until the last possible moment tried, even in the most complicated circumstances, to find diplomatic solutions to differences and conflicts. Responsibility for the failure to use these chances lies squarely with those who believe that they can use the language of force with us.

We continue to call for developing mutually beneficial and equal cooperation with the United States and European countries, and for creating a joint security system in the Eurasian region. We welcome nascent progress in our dialogue with the new US administration, which cannot be said of the current leaders of the majority of European countries.

At the same time, we realise that our Armed Forces remain the key guarantor of Russia’s sovereignty and independence in any international situation. As I have stated, we must work consistently to strengthen them.

Belousov echos this (machine translation, emph. add.):

Analysis of the military-political situation shows that threats to military security have changed significantly over the past three years. The North Atlantic Alliance continues to build up its coalition forces, actively preparing for the deployment of intermediate-range missiles, updating the range of nuclear weapons, modernizing air and missile defense, and changing the system of mobilization deployment. The efficiency of the transfer of alliance troops to the eastern flank is increasing, for which it is planned to introduce the so-called military “Schengen”.

Military spending is increasing significantly. Today, the alliance has an annual budget of $ 1.6 trillion. Taking into account its gradual increase to five percent of the national GDP, the NATO budget will grow by more than one and a half times – up to $ 2.7 trillion.

All this indicates that NATO is preparing for a military clash with Russia. The alliance plans to achieve readiness for such actions by the turn of the 2030s. This was repeatedly openly stated by official representatives of the NATO bloc. We don’t threaten – we are threatened.

In accordance with the significant threats to military security, the construction of modern and high-tech Armed Forces is being carried out. I will focus on the most important points. …

Followed by Putin in his second part with regards to Ukraine:

They engineered a coup, initiated military operations, and deliberately – I am convinced, deliberately – precipitated a war.

President Trump has said that had he been in office at the time, none of this would have happened. He may well be right. Because the previous administration deliberately brought matters to an armed conflict. And I think the reason is clear: they believed Russia could be swiftly broken up and dismantled. European “swine underlings”1 immediately joined the efforts of that previous American administration, hoping to profit from our country’s collapse: to reclaim what had been lost in earlier historical periods and to exact a form of revenge. As has now become evident to all, every one of those attempts, every destructive design against Russia, has ended in complete and total failure.

Russia has demonstrated its resilience in the economy, finance, domestic politics, the state of society, and, ultimately, in its defence capability.

And our Armed Forces are on the rise. I repeat, much remains to be done, but it will all be done. We have always stated – and I want to reaffirm this – that we remain ready for negotiations and ready to resolve all the problems that have arisen in recent years through peaceful means. The United States administration has demonstrated such readiness, and we are engaged in dialogue with it. I hope the same will eventually occur in Europe. It is unlikely with the current political elites, but it will be inevitable as we continue to strengthen, if not with the present politicians, then with a change of political elites in Europe.

1 ‘swine underlings’ is a verbal translation from the Russian [под-свинки] ‘under-pigs’. It means ‘small piglets’ who are completely depending on the mother sow.

Russia is much smaller than a united NATO. It has way less people and money.  NATO countries are arming up. Their populations are actively manipulated into seeing Russia as THE enemy. Russia is in a security dilemma:

[A] security dilemma is when the increase in one state’s security leads other states to fear for their own security. Consequently, security-increasing measures can lead to tensions, escalation or conflict with one or more other parties, producing an outcome which no party truly desires; a political instance of the prisoner’s dilemma.

Europe pretends to be in a security dilemma. There is no way that Russia, with half the population size of the Soviet Union and without Warsaw Pact allies, could march to Berlin. It is completely unrealistic to say that Russia is a danger for the rest of Europe.

But when Belousov says “we are threatened” he is stating a fact.

Comments

Posted by: Sal | Dec 19 2025 4:29 utc | 269
‘He may well be right.’
This is diplomacy aimed at narcissists. Perception in the subjunctive is like playing blind man’s buff, where you shout ‘hot’ or ‘cold’ at someone.
https://youtu.be/HvHRzHewmxg?si=FS1Cl6URDwlyddrB

Posted by: BlindSpot | Dec 19 2025 9:14 utc | 301

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 19 2025 8:27 utc | 298

There go another € 2 billion for the Euro Humvee:
 

Germany has awarded Finland’s Patria two procurement contracts for up to 876 6×6 armored personnel carriers under the Common Armoured Vehicle System (CAVS) program. The total value exceeds €2 billion, including a firm order worth more than €1 billion, Patria said Thursday. The contracts cover four different vehicle variants, including a version equipped with the 120-millimeter NEMO turreted mortar.
 
On Wednesday, the Bundestag’s budget committee had already cleared the purchase of ten troop carriers, 170 engineer transport vehicles with an option for 54 more, and 48 armored reconnaissance transporters with an option for an additional 14, for a total of €959 million. These vehicles will be fitted with the remotely operated Kongsberg RS4 weapon station. The second contract would therefore comprise up to 580 additional vehicles, including the NEMO mortar variant.
 
Germany set to become by far the largest CAVS user
 
Delivery of the first vehicles is scheduled to begin as early as next year. Following the transfer of technology to German production partners KNDS, Jungenthal Wehrtechnik, and Flensburger Fahrzeugbau, deliveries from domestic production are expected to start in 2027. Patria concluded the corresponding industrial agreement with the German firms in 2024, after Germany joined the CAVS program the previous year.
 
In total, the Bundeswehr has identified a requirement for 4,000 Patria 6×6 vehicles to replace the aging Fuchs armored transport. That would make Germany by a wide margin the largest user within the CAVS program. To date, Sweden has ordered 435 vehicles, Latvia 256, Finland 161, and Denmark 130. No figures have yet been announced for the most recent program participants, the United Kingdom and Norway.
 
Source, dated 2025-12-18, in German
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Posted by: too scents | Dec 19 2025 8:13 utc | 297

Nothing in politics happens by accident.  East Germany never had lobby in Berlin, much more so since the pariah party AfD has been on the rise in “dark Germany” [Pres. Steinmeier’s nickname for East Germany, as in Hillary’s “deplorables”].
 
So with next to no industry left, what would men be forced to do?  Signing up for the army becomes a shinier option by the day… recruitment problems solved!

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 19 2025 9:43 utc | 302

Nervous German @ 303
Same in england, thats what the Reform party is for. Banderite cannon fodder. Houseing crises solved, house them in a short term tenancy, otherwise known as a Ukrainian muddy trench.
 
I’m against it.  Dispite not likeing Reform types.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 10:07 utc | 303

To add to my above….
I dont like them becouse they punch down not up.
 
I dont like them becouse their fools,  who think they are nails, that think their a hammer, thus very easly exploited by the powers that be.
 
They are right wing extremists,  i am a leftie, not a lib. Punch up not down, always.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 10:17 utc | 304

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 19 2025 9:43 utc | 303
About German men signing up to dress in uniform to fight the Russians, check out exile’s link to a youtube video by Monika Gruber
Monika Gruber – Wenn der Russe kommt
It’s hilarious!

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 19 2025 10:20 utc | 305

Asian Frog 257
 
How very tiresome. If Russia could just demolish the Houses of Parliament and strategic Ministries opposite the Tate Gallery and in Fulham and leave everything else intact,  it would be doing a great service  to the universe. 
Why does it always have to be the working classes that suffer in war, when it is the political classes that make all the problems?

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 19 2025 10:21 utc | 306

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 10:07 utc | 304
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No need to worry, vote Reform anyways. A nation of hedonists and recent immigrants will never go to the muddy trenches, instead they will drop their trousers, raise their buttocks, and surrender before the 1st shoot out.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 19 2025 10:28 utc | 307

@ Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 10:17 utc | 305

I think the old left-right scheme is beyond its shelf time — Starmer is Labour!  He gives a flying f*ck about the 99%.  So I’ll route for whichever underdog is running against the establishment/1%.
 

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 19 2025 10:20 utc | 306

Haha, yes, saw that!  But like the live audience I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.  I’m not worried about our young, they feel and know exactly where this country is going, and like Mark2 said, it’ll be the cheapest rent, in muddy trenches, or some other bleak future.  I’m more worried about the those born in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s, the group in “reserve” status.  They seem to have both totally false ideas AND a great big blind spot when it comes to history and Russia.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 19 2025 10:35 utc | 308

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 19 2025 10:35 utc | 309
I think the old left-right scheme is beyond its shelf time.
 
Not so. As long as we live within an exploitative system, there will always need to be an opposition, and to start calling it something else will only lead to unnecessary confusion.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 19 2025 11:24 utc | 309

 
Jeffrey Sachs: An Open Letter to Chancellor Merz – Security Is Indivisible and History Matters
 
German deceit taken apart here in 20 mins

Posted by: Don Firineach | Dec 19 2025 12:11 utc | 310

You can tell whats what by a simple test, that will solve this mini debate.   As  so….
 
Look at the police on a demo. With a reform demo the police, face tbe same way as the reform anti refugee marchers.
 
On a free Gaza march the exact opposite can be seen. The police face off the marchers.
 
Two words ‘incitement’ or ‘opression’
 
Make dam sure you get that right.
 
You, i and refugee’s are exactly the same people…….victems.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 12:59 utc | 311

The boys in psyops gave me a good ribbing over your disgusting proclivities. B should ban you for posting such filth. 
 
Posted by: The Painter | Dec 19 2025 1:30 utc | 227

 
I went to the link and saw a fake ad: Zelensky selling his war in three easy payments. How is that “filth” and what “disgusting proclivities” does that expose?

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 19 2025 13:09 utc | 312

What forces in NATO are you talking about being bigger and better than Russia? Turkey? USA? Poland ? Does anyone in their right mind believe that if there was war , NATO will fight like an unified army and not ask themselves why am I getting involved? All this pacts looks nice on paper but with the world’s strongest and most combat ready military which will fight them without any mercy or compunction, none of this analysis holds good . 

Posted by: Tranceislife | Dec 19 2025 13:23 utc | 313

90,, 000,000,000,000, that what it looks like.
Tax payers money, given to curupt zelensky today.  Stolen from us.
 
Plus  yes plus the same amount again stolen from Russia.
 
I predict kinsals for Christmas.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 13:24 utc | 314

90,, 000,000,000,000, that what it looks like.
Tax payers money, given to curupt zelensky today.  Stolen from us.
 
Plus  yes plus the same amount again stolen from Russia.
 
I predict kinsals for Christmas.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 13:24 utc | 315

@  Organic | Dec 19 2025 6:59 utc | 286
 
i think having some scepticism for what we listen to is a good thing… questioning authority and in general questioning our reality, is a good idea… that is mostly what i believe the interview draws attention to.. 

Posted by: james | Dec 19 2025 15:48 utc | 316

Posted by: Konami | Dec 19 2025 1:34 utc | 230
 
Rhetorical question, if Belgian prime minister Bart De Wever is Flemish and head of a “nationalist” party and goes in bed with the “lazy” Walloons setting aside all nationalist aspirations just to rule that tiny country, can he have a spine? Can he not be a political opportunist?
 
The thing is that most of EU countries are eager to spend that supposed Russian money on supposed Ukraine (they will spend it on their own military industry) while Belgium will take the full legal and economic brunt. Selling out all the future generations, Bart De Wever want to prevent being held accountable for that. Yet he already is because except for Hungary, they ALL voted for the indefinite freezing of the Russian money held at Euroclear. This is legal hocus pocus.

Posted by: xor | Dec 19 2025 16:09 utc | 317

They are right wing extremists, i am a leftie, not a lib. Punch up not down, always.Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 10:17 utc | 305
 
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The problem for the left is that once they gain power, they have no one to punch up at. Now they are, “the man in charge”.
 
The crown weighs heavy on the head.
 
A sustainable movement cannot be based on being against something. It must have a continuous positive vision to strive towards. Pursuit of a payoff. Material, spiritual, intellectual.
 
In any war or conflict, there needs to be a victory condition.  Get 100 Lefties together and get 100 different victory conditions for Gaza or homelessness, or education, or welfare…
 
Anger is not justice.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 19 2025 16:09 utc | 318

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 19 2025 16:09 utc | 319
 
Poor analysis. a) there is no need to envisage continuous ‘punching’ – up or down. b) the ultimate aim of the left is to diffuse ‘power’ i.e. decision making, to all, c) opposing is a means to an end – not a continuing process, etc. etc. You should actually read Marx, instead of depending on unbalanced reports from others.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 19 2025 16:56 utc | 319

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 19 2025 16:56 utc | 320
 
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I purposely don’t read Marx because I observe reality. I have no use for ideology that doesn’t have practical application.
 
If Marx were correct, the world would look and behave very differently than it does.
 
What I wrote, which you disagreed with, is rooted in political reality. In group psychology, in logic.
 
I am always looking for a good counter-argument. To sharpen my thinking, to find my errors, and to challenge my preconceptions. When it comes to the search for truth and understanding, I have no ego.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 19 2025 17:26 utc | 320

Love Dombass @  319 
Your comment is very very defetest. Shame on you. Its also  wrong on so many levels it’s beyound repair, a strawman  argument.
 
So who else do you foresee comming to our rescue ? It wont be Vladimir Putin his interest is defendence  of Russia,  i support that.
 
So come on LD  put up a name or political party.  
 

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 17:41 utc | 321

Disagree
Russia today could easily march to Berlin.
But Russia could not pacify all of Europe.
Equally, the indoctrination of European peoples in question is nothing new. That failing leaders in Berlin, Paris and London would do so is in no way unusual – it is the European equivalent of Plehve’s eponymous “short, victorious war” now that the “short, victorious war” in Ukraine has failed.
What is unusual is that the populations of France, Germany and the UK show very little interest in going along with the propaganda.
So while Russia certainly feels insecure – rightly so because it would be irresponsible for Putin and Russia’s other leaders to ignore the yapping NATO/EU, the reality of Russia’s security for the short and partially medium term future is that NATO/the EU do not pose an existential threat.
Much as with the Ukraine peace negotiations – Europe’s economic and social decline is the equivalent of Russian divisions marching from east to west in Ukraine … any offramps to a better outcome are entirely in the Europeans’ hands even as the short/medium term outcome is not in doubt.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 19 2025 17:55 utc | 322

So who else do you foresee comming to our rescue ? It wont be Vladimir Putin his interest is defendence of Russia, i support that. So come on LD put up a name or political party.
 
Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 17:41 utc | 322
 
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No man is coming to our rescue.
 
That’s childish, always seeking “Daddy” among the psychopaths attracted to power.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 19 2025 18:10 utc | 323

Acording to  Love Donbass @ 324….
Were all doomed, doomed, doomed i tell you.
 
Resistence is useless,  lets all form an orderly cue for the gas chamber.
 
What the hell are you doing here ? If that is your  view.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 18:33 utc | 324

Acording to  Love Donbass @ 324….Were all doomed, doomed, doomed i tell you.
Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 18:33 utc | 325
 
Huh? You can read that quite differently: we are all responsible for ourselves and we should get our ass up now and remove those in power so that we are not doomed in the near future.

Posted by: Zet | Dec 19 2025 18:46 utc | 325

duck n cover | Dec 18 2025 17:32 utc | 51
*** “WE ARE THE VICTIM!” cried Trump to universal applause preparing to bomb VZ, thieves of US oil. NATO/EU are the victim, not the millions dead and displaced in Ukraine and Russia. and Cuba is NOT the victim, Cuba is the perp, that’s why the West is starving them. ditto Iran. *** 
 
Soon the zio-puppet gelt grubbing blimp Trump will apply the same criminal logic to Russia, as he has recently done re Venezuela …. an argument that US-corporate interests having been somewhere and looted a country’s resources means that they thereafter own whatever remains of these resources.
Nationalisation even with “compensation” having been paid (extorted, more like) makes no difference.
Akin to a burglar claiming ownership of premises he burgled.
Which is a suspiciously “Jewish” kind of perverted reasoning and divine entitlement  by Trump and his masters (if dubious of that, check it out).
 
As for the “European” ruling/political class it is difficult to tell whether their ravings began as just an act, or did they always actually believe the crap they spout?
Certainly the neoliberal / “free-market” cultists had a very sociopathic mindset re economics, people, society  and “values” since the 1970s — largely consistent with earlier horrors, but re-wrapped in modernised jargon.
 
The world might now be a nicer place if the ships of the so-called “Pilgrim Fathers” … a thoroughly malignant gang of sanctimonious cultists … had been sunk in mid Atlantic.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 19 2025 19:03 utc | 326

“Europe pretends to be in a security dilemma. There is no way that Russia, with half the population size of the Soviet Union and without Warsaw Pact allies, could march to Berlin. It is completely unrealistic to say that Russia is a danger for the rest of Europe.”There are few misconseptions in this statement. There are more people in the EU than in Russia. The GDP is far more larger and even with PPP it is definetly larger. However, eurozone lacks any resources and is not even able to feed its own population. The imports are delivered via sea lanes and this dependence will make European resilience very hard to achieve without Uncle Sam.
Ability to produce requires skills, workforce, production facilities, energy and raw materials + logistics. Energy and raw materials are severe problem for Europe, if big whistle starts to blow.
 

Posted by: Pavi | Dec 19 2025 19:03 utc | 327

Savonarole | Dec 18 2025 17:39 utc | 55
*** The western press has bait the “piglet” trolling quite hard. It’s fun to watch. /popcornIt reminded me the “fainting piglet” cartoons , it’s Russian propaganda but they are good at it :). https://t.me/s/svinkavobmoroke ***
 
 
Brilliant cartoons ….. though not so much propaganda as factual accounts in cartoon format.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 19 2025 19:19 utc | 328

Putin Identifies The Main Issue Which Will Settle Ukraine War In Year-End Q&A by Tyler Durden, Friday, Dec 19, 2025 – 02:00 PM
Russian President Vladimir Putin made clear during his annual end of year question-and-answer session in Moscow that the matter of Ukraine ceding land which Russia now controls is the heart of the issue when it comes to peace talks. The issue of territory gained, lost, to be ceded or not, remains the prime topic that must be considered, but it’s the very thing that Ukraine’s Zelensky refuses to talk about or compromise on, Putin explained.
 
 
This summary focuses only on “territorial ambitions” and battle victories. Nothing about anything else really. So the frame here is: “Those Russians are so MEAN!” Nothing about regime change operations in 2014 and intentionally creating a war. BritKraine has quite the effective PR filter.   

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 19 2025 19:57 utc | 329

Nervous German | Dec 18 2025 19:42 utc | 98
*** Is the population replacement practice (no longer a “theory”) perhaps one of the unspoken root causes for the conflict with Russia, which is the only larger European nation not willing to agree to such an agenda that gradually not only destroys national wealth but also the underlying traditional European fabric of Christian values and societal cohesion?These questions also hold for Starmer’s United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. ***
 
These corporate/finance/mass-media inflicted political “leaders” are members of a modern, transnational religion …. that of ultra-capitalist economic cultism.  They are recruited to form a sort of priestly class separate from the public, a class which views itself as entirely above and beyond any concepts of nationality, society, genuine culture, race or maybe even species.  They identify with each other (and of course, in a servile way, with their masters).
They are, for want of any better descriptives, narcissistic vampire zombies.
And to them, ordinary ‘people’ anywhere are merely another disposable, shuntable commodity within the sacred economic delusion they serve.

Posted by: Cynic | Dec 19 2025 19:59 utc | 330

OK zet @ 326
How,  ?  whats your plan, or is it armchair  hypothtical  only.
 
Couse what i see is devide and rule and the rivht are the gulible fools.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 20:00 utc | 331

“I purposely don’t read Marx because I observe reality. I have no use for ideology that doesn’t have practical application. If Marx were correct, the world would look and behave very differently than it does. What I wrote, which you disagreed with, is rooted in political reality. In group psychology, in logic. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 19 2025 17:26 utc | 321
 
If you purposely don’t read an author then you have no basis for giving an opinion on what that author writes, or what relation it has to ‘reality’. (In my opinion this is an evasion on your part, and dishonest). It is ridiculous to say that if ‘Marx were correct the world would look different’. Marx analysed the capitalist system, and it looks very much as he described and predicted. But his analysis will have no tangible effect until others put his ideas into practice. Despite claims to the contrary by those with an anti-Marxist axe to grind, this has not yet been done. All in all, your remarks are grounded not in political reality, but in a head-in-the-sand refusal to enlarge the scope of your thinking. 

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Dec 19 2025 20:19 utc | 332

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 19 2025 20:00 utc | 332
 
I don’t have a solution. I just wanted to express that the post of LD can be interpreted quite differently than doom, doom, doom.
 
My personal solution was to leave the EU because I cannot see an immediate change of power, not even soonish. And when I hear rumors about plans to switch to a full-blown war economy in Germany in the spring then I am happy that I did that.

Posted by: Zet | Dec 19 2025 23:48 utc | 333

Thank you very much for this excellent analysis, especially the last two paragraphs where everything is said.
This is not the first time and attempt, fortunately Russian people has been able to resist so far but at the cost of unimaginable sacrifices (such as those during WW2).

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Dec 20 2025 1:01 utc | 334

I havent read the whole 4 pages, so this may be repetitive. Just a link to Andrew Korybkos latest analysis of Kasahkstan’s policies with respect to the Russian security situation:
https://korybko.substack.com/p/kazakhstan-might-have-just-irreversibly?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
 
I am not getting the impression US ‘s peace efforts in UA are sincere.

Posted by: umuntu | Dec 20 2025 10:33 utc | 335

OT:
Scott Ritter on dialogue works: https://www.youtube.com/live/zq9y5GpwChY?si=TvpiAeMZVPb-gQfx  Here’s a question Karlof or someone would could answer. However it is the domain of economics.   Fact check. 54:30 Putin believes in the invisible hand of the market/capitalism? Ritter claims he said Russia should not interfere in the prices of domestic products such as coffee. Putin said that it’s destructive and the market will resolve the problem.  I’m not sure what he really means by this. In terms of his actions, not his words, he goes to great lengths to manage Russia’s economy. Perhaps only infrastructure? As he should in either case. It’s also possible that Ritter is not quoting him accurately. Or I’m just ignorant, which is most likely.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 20 2025 12:32 utc | 336

REPOST:
Scott Ritter on dialogue works:
 https://www.youtube.com/live/zq9y5GpwChY?si=TvpiAeMZVPb-gQfx  
Here’s a question Karlof would know. However it is the domain of economics.  
 Fact check. 54:30 Putin believes in the invisible hand of the market/capitalism? Ritter claims he said Russia should not interfere in the prices of domestic products such as coffee. Putin said that it’s destructive and the market will resolve the problem.  
I’m not sure what he really means by this. In terms of his actions, not his words, he goes to Great Lengths to manage Russia’s economy. It’s also possible that Ritter is not quoting him accurately.
 

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 20 2025 12:33 utc | 337

REPOST (troubleshooting)
Scott Ritter on dialogue works: 
 
https://www.youtube.com/live/zq9y5GpwChY?si=TvpiAeMZVPb-gQfx  
 
Here’s a question Karlof would know. However it is the domain of economics.  
 
 Fact check. 54:30 Putin believes in the invisible hand of the market/capitalism? Ritter claims he said Russia should not interfere in the prices of domestic products such as coffee. Putin said that it’s destructive and the market will resolve the problem.  
 
I’m not sure what he really means by this. In terms of his actions, not his words, he goes to Great Lengths to manage Russia’s economy. It’s also possible that Ritter is not quoting him accurately.
 
 

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 20 2025 12:34 utc | 338

The problem with handling the clipboard remains. The workaround requires inserting TWO blank lines wherever you have one after pasting.
 
Is there some way I could have a look at the code? 

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 20 2025 12:37 utc | 339

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 20 2025 12:37 utc | 340
 
#####
 
Choose the CODE tab on the text box area.
 
That will show you your post with HTML.
 
Warning, it may show your post without HTML or line breaks.
 
I paste into the CODE tab, then go to VISUAL and format.
 
2 VISUAL tab returns = new paragraph when posted, in my experience.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 20 2025 13:42 utc | 340

There is no way that Russia, with half the population size of the Soviet Union and without Warsaw Pact allies, could march to Berlin.

Maybe the deal to be cut is between Vlad and the Keevler Elf:
“Hey Z, how about we get the band back together and together plunder the  degenerate West for our joint reparations.”
It’s not like most Ukranians think they have real friends in the West. Pretty much everything you hear a Western European say about Russians they also hold for the Ukies.
Europe might have 3x people, but have you seen them lately? They can’t even police their own streets, much less march on Moscow.
 
 
 

Posted by: Cato | Dec 20 2025 15:18 utc | 341

If Europe is so weak (as many commenters write), why is it it a threat to Russia as Putin claims?
 

Posted by: Karpi | Dec 20 2025 15:25 utc | 342

” ‘[A] security dilemma is when the increase in one state’s security leads other states to fear for their own security. Consequently, security-increasing measures can lead to tensions, escalation or conflict with one or more other parties, producing an outcome which no party truly desires; a political instance of the prisoner’s dilemma.’

Europe pretends to be in a security dilemma. ”

Not really…it is just that the security dilemma is not viz Russia, Russia is only being (or even allowing itself to be) used to that end.

The security dilemma in europe is about EU keeping the appearance of direction, organisation and authority, which is being achieved by increasingly implementing security parameters of various kinds. These are said to be in reaction to (often EU sponsored) infractions. So it looks make believe or pretend, for example a Russian invasion, but in fact the dilemma is very real for those hoping to maintain power, as well as to the citizenry who do start to fear for their own security ; not only from the hypothetical menaces but from the security stance of EU itself.

An example would be control of access to services or data of population, crossed with a scenario of future military conscription across europe.

Each might be used to justify the other; control of data to detect foreign interference, where conscription would justify data collection for homogeneity or fairness in call up to an eventual military reply.

What exactly the intention of NATO or EU is I could not say. It could be MIC profits, distraction from other problems, it could be population control or simply an ambition to enter directly into conflict with Russia for no other reason whatsoever. Etc.

It is paradoxical that by inventing a security dilemma; ‘Russia’ , previously ‘sarscov2’ previously ‘migrants’ previously ‘gfc’previously ‘terrorism’ previously ‘cold war’ previously ‘war in europe’ and so on, that each time a real associated security dilemma for the populations is created (in reverse order roughly) ‘NATO’ (threat to Russia) / ‘ECSC’ (economic monopoly) , ‘war on terror’ (terrorist attacks due to involvement in ME) , ‘bailouts but no exit’ (financial hegemony and ripping up restraints on ECB activity) , ‘Syrian war/migration/borders’ (purposefully fueling mass migration) , ‘synchronised lockdowns’ (treading on individual freedom or rights), ‘EU militarisation’ ….

Hence, the pattern is clear, incremental to the degree that societies or nations in europe accept greater centralisation, cede sovereignty and relinquishes national norms, ignores individual freedoms or rights.

It is also ratchet like, never going 100%, always stopping short and easing off but at a higher level of tension, or control, than previously.

Now, imagine all of that rolled into one (which is actually a reality also) , where populations are uneasy, dispondent, confused, uptight or agitated, because of that reality and direction, or because of being hyped or misled continuously on various themes, and simultaneously imagine those holding authority only having one direction, being weak for it, known to be uncaring and of questionable sanity, having run out of ideas and not holding any excuses only more lies, more authority …and imagine the populations know this (many do) :

You then have a real world security dilemma, where it is between EU, nations and individuals, and where EU has only one direction of escape (unless planned all along of course) – to enter into a form of direct conflict with Russia.

The question of if escalations are also fuelled by Russia increasing its military are secondary, because it is known that a war against Russia cannot be won. So Russia is not, by that line of thought, actually in a security dilemma.

Equally, Russia knows that it cannot win a war against NATO, and so an EU security dilemma is also a falsity, except for :

“You then have a real world security dilemma, where it is between EU, nations and individuals, and where EU has only one direction of escape (unless planned all along of course) – to enter into a form of direct conflict with Russia.”

Which translates as ‘not quite MAD’ … yet.

…but which is not very convincing to anyone in europe as an excuse to be sent to the lines, fighting so as not to go MAD does not make sense.

…and which leaves another reality instead, of a well armed authoritarian EU further harassing its member states and their citizens.

… and I am just contemplating here, because it does not add up.

People feared nuclear war but understood nuclear armament as a (hard to reason) means by which nations would find peace with each other. The same goes for all the various forms of security agreement and homogenisation in europe.

That the current ‘leaders’ threaten and prepare for war all the same, and the idea citizens are presented with of being forcefully sent into conflict, are inexplicable in terms of having anything to do with what the populations have been preached over the last century.

There are those prepared to rewrite all via conflict, that much is sure.

There are also leaders willing to use the threat of that to polarise and gain authority.

Between them, the scene is set.

Posted by: Ornot | Dec 20 2025 20:13 utc | 343

“….The United States administration has demonstrated such readiness,….”
For peace? Putin fell fir Trump’s bullshit. The ultimate con artist 
Doesn’t Putin get that NATO would not be at all, except for the US?
He can’t be that naive? NATO’s very existence, it’s very foundation is the Russia bogeyman.
I’ve read some comments from EU citizens on articles about Russia. For example, the theft of Russian assets and EU warmongering. I don’t know who is dumber, EU or American citizens. These EU commenters were cheering to have Russian assets stolen and to go to war on Russia to beat them once and for all. Some of my comments to them were, “better suit up then, buddy, cuz you will be an EU conscript to get those Russians!
Utter morons!

Posted by: Kay | Dec 21 2025 5:42 utc | 344