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December 12, 2025
Russia Counters EU Shenanigans To Steal Its Frozen Assets

The prime minister of Hungary Victor Orbán posted this morning:

Today, the Brusselians are crossing the Rubicon. At noon, a written vote will take place that will cause irreparable damage to the Union.

The subject of the vote is the frozen Russian assets, on which the EU member states have so far voted every 6 months and adopted a unanimous decision. With today’s procedure, the Brusselians are abolishing the requirement of unanimity with a single stroke of the pen, which is clearly unlawful.

With today’s decision, the rule of law in the European Union comes to an end, and Europe’s leaders are placing themselves above the rules. Instead of safeguarding compliance with the EU treaties, the European Commission is systematically raping European law. It is doing this in order to continue the war in Ukraine, a war that clearly isn’t winnable. All this is happening in broad daylight, less than a week before the meeting of the European Council, the Union’s most important decision-making body, bringing together heads of state and government. With this, the rule of law in the European Union is being replaced by the rule of bureaucrats. In other words, a Brusselian dictatorship has taken hold.

Hungary protests this decision and will do everything in its power to restore a lawful order.

The EU used the Article 122 of the treaty to make the freezing of the Russian assets in Europe permanent by the vote of a qualified majority in the Council of Europe where each nation has a vote. Previously that freeze was voted on every six month and required unanimity. Any country could thus veto further sanctions. Putting the freeze under Art.122 in effect deprives Hungary and others of their veto power.

The whole issue came up because Belgium, where most of the assets are frozen, has fears that any use of the Russian assets for an EU ‘loan’ to Ukraine would in the end require it to pay Russia if the sanctions were lifted. Making the freeze permanent are supposed to shield it from EU member veto.

It is very doubtful that the use of Art. 122, which is for economic emergency “in particular if severe difficulties arise in the supply of certain products, notably in the area of energy”, is applicable. The decision will likely be challenged in court:

On Wednesday, Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever cast doubt over the suitability of Article 122 and the existence of an economic emergency to justify its activation.

“This is money from a country with which we are not at war,” De Wever said, speaking to reporters at the Belgian parliament. “It would be like breaking into an embassy, ​​taking out all the furniture, and selling it.”

Russia’s response to the EU shenanigans did not take long:

MOSCOW, December 12. /TASS/. The Bank of Russia has filed a lawsuit against the Euroclear depository in the Moscow Arbitration Court for damages caused to the Bank of Russia, the regulator’s press service reported.

The amount of the claim against the depository was not specified in the statement.

“In connection with the illegal actions of the Euroclear depository, which are causing damages to the Bank of Russia, as well as in connection with the mechanisms officially reviewed by the European Commission for the direct or indirect use of Bank of Russia assets without the consent of the Bank of Russia, the Bank of Russia is filing a lawsuit in the Moscow Arbitration Court against the Euroclear depository for damages caused to the Bank of Russia,” the statement reads.

The regulator stressed that the actions of the Euroclear depository caused damage “due to the inability to manage cash and securities belonging to the Bank of Russia.”

The majority of Russia’s sovereign assets frozen in Europe (over €200 billion) are blocked on Euroclear’s platform in Belgium. The depository repeatedly opposed the expropriation of the assets, warning that it could lead to Russia seizing European or Belgian assets elsewhere in the world through legal action.

Earlier Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that the global financial and economic order would be destroyed, and economic separatism would only intensify, if the West stole Russia’s frozen assets. Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov noted that Moscow would definitely respond to the theft of its assets in Europe. He stressed that the Kremlin intends to organize legal proceedings against those involved in this scheme.

Russia is following the Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) procedure through arbitration courts. This helps it to avoid seeking judgment in any potentially hostile national jurisdiction. ISDS procedure have been  successfully used by Russian billionaires who had been sanctioned. The details of how they function is beyond my pay grade though Yves Smith covers a bit of it. She closes her piece with this:

In any event, pass the popcorn. Things are about to get ugly. The long-standing erosion of national rights in favor of stateless investors is being turned against its neoliberal creators.

When the war in Ukraine started it was quite obvious that it would damage NATO and probably lead to its demise. But I did not expect how much damage it would do to the EU. Brussels is de-legitimizing itself. That damage will last and may well lead to significant changes in whatever is by then left of the European Union.

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thanks b…
 
a continuation of war by other means and now on the individual states within the EU… obviously lawyers can write up any law they so choose and exhibit how lawyers and gov’ts who ignore the idea of justice are scoundrels of the first order…  kudos to orban for calling a spade a spade here…  the EU is on a downhill slope, as if that wasn’t already obvious..

Posted by: james | Dec 12 2025 15:37 utc | 1

Looks like Slovakians are also fed up with EU.  

 
If Slovakia, Hungary, Poland and Italy invite support from Trump, in conjunction with other rug-pulling actions emanating from US (like cutting off the Eurodollar swap lines, sudden ‘interruptions’ in energy supplies, sudden delays in weapon shipments, delay/hiked price for rare mineral shipments (i.e. the Brazil rare metal mine experience recently)), etc. etc. The Eurozone is in deep dodo.
 
It’s also likely Russia will win against Euroclear and it will most likely be in Singapore or Hong Kong court.

 

Today I held an almost hour-long phone conversation with the President of the European Council, A. Costa. I fully respect him, but while he spoke about money for the war in Ukraine, I kept repeating the senseless daily killing of hundreds to thousands of Russians and Ukrainians.
 
If for Western Europe the life of a Russian or a Ukrainian is worth shit, I do not want to be part of such a Western Europe. I told A. Costa that I will not support anything, even if we have to sit in Brussels until the New Year, which would lead to support for Ukraine’s military expenditures. I am ready, as Prime Minister of the Slovak Republic, to support Ukraine in its reconstruction on the basis of bilateral negotiations between the Slovak and Ukrainian governments, but I reject senseless killing.
 
In this spirit, I sent a letter to the President of the European Council, A. Costa, and to all the prime ministers of the EU member states, which you can read here.

https://x.com/RobertFicoSVK/status/1999484137321775516

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 15:45 utc | 2

I am skeptical that courts will accomplish anything. As Mao observed, all power comes from the barrel of a gun.
What can Russia do as to seizing EU assets?  Businesses, aircraft, ships and so on.  How are EU airlines surviving the avoidance of Russia?  This theft will also lock them out of the Arctic Passage, I would think.

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 12 2025 15:52 utc | 3

What is Russia proposing to do about it? 
 
Governments don’t let laws get in the way of doing what they want to do, and the european political class has no priority other than the War On Russia. 

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 15:53 utc | 4

Stealing the money is the only fake-warlike thing the psychotic but cowardly Eurotards have the ability to do. It seems like out of sheer impotent rage and frustration they’re going to flip the table over and blow up the final shreds of legitimacy of the Western-dominated financial “order”. Obviously the money can’t possibly make the slightest difference to the war on the ground.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 12 2025 15:53 utc | 5

 unimperator@2……….                     
“I kept repeating the senseless daily killing of hundreds to thousands of Russians and Ukrainians.”
 
Me too…….
 
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 12 2025 15:57 utc | 6

the folks who control a lot of the money don’t care about dead people… look to ww1 and ww2 as perfect examples… the dynamic with russia-nato – the same deal… a war about money and making money.. 

Posted by: james | Dec 12 2025 16:01 utc | 7

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 12 2025 15:52 utc | 3
 
######
 
Great points.
 
The EU may have the loot (digitally). Russia has all of the leverage.
 
The money is an abstraction, limiting travel is tangible and substantive.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 12 2025 16:05 utc | 8

I thought Russia was going to offset this by taking Western assets still in Russia. Will the plan be to appeal first to the courts then take the assets?

Posted by: Ken | Dec 12 2025 16:14 utc | 9

The EU is fiddling as Rome burns.
 
Stealing from Russia will do fuck all to fix the untenable energy situation.
 
https://dashboardenergie.admin.ch/preise/strom-karte
 
Europe needs Russia’s energy to move forward.  Or even just to stay in place.
 

Posted by: too scents | Dec 12 2025 16:15 utc | 10

It is time to throw out the Quislings in Brussels. 

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 12 2025 16:16 utc | 11

It should be quite obvious to everyone that the owners of the EU project are well aware of its near and certain demise, and are thus using it as a last hail-Mary tyrannical bullwark, which hopefully will be able to provoke their long lusted for big war against Russia…
 
Grab your popcorn indeed! Personally I’d love to see the Brusselians’ response to a potential unorderly Hungexit, Chexit and/or Slovexit. Enquiring minds want to know if they are ready send German military penal expeditions to bring the “rebels” back to their Europeon senses…?

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Dec 12 2025 16:17 utc | 12

Does anyone have any reliable information about what the Russian assets in Euroclear actually are?
 
I have read that much of those assets are Eurobonds — that is to say, they are debts of the European governments, money the Euros owe to Russia for cash the Russians previously gave to the Euros.  Those assets are not actually cash which could be given to Zelensky.  IF this is so, then the Euros seizing those Russian assets would simply be those same Euros refusing to pay their debt to Russia.  In order to raise any cash, the Euros would then have to persuade someone else (the Chinese?  Ha! ha!) to give them fresh cash for the same bonds they have just refused to honor for Russia.

Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Dec 12 2025 16:18 utc | 13

I don’t think the Russians care about the EU’s Treaties, procedures or votes regarding Russian assets.Theft is theft….When Russia finishes off the Ukraine, Belgium and its bankers will be on the hook for any Russian assets  confiscated ….So Belgium had better refuse to play ball, or else…

Posted by: pyrrhus | Dec 12 2025 16:23 utc | 14

The EU will not survive something like this. The EU and NATO are two sides of the same coin. Both will dissolve. Peace breaks out in 404.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 12 2025 16:23 utc | 15

Does anyone have any reliable information about what the Russian assets in Euroclear actually are?
 
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Dec 12 2025 16:18 utc | 13
 

 
Understanding M1 Money Supply: Definition, Calculation, and Impacts ==> https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/m1.asp
 
Only Russia and Euroclear know specifically what has been encumbered.
 

Posted by: too scents | Dec 12 2025 16:24 utc | 16

james@7……some historians say big wars get rid of the useless male eaters, has since the dawn of time………that usually leads to a population boom post war……well, for the fellas that still have their manly bits……
 
Cheers M
 
 
 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 12 2025 16:28 utc | 17

So I suppose the EU will move to seize US assets in their banks if US invades Venezuela, and vote to spend them to pay for Venezuela’s defense and rebuilding. Also I’m assuming some sanctions will be preposed by the EU in case of the US invading a sovereign country. 

Posted by: James C | Dec 12 2025 16:30 utc | 18

@ 13 – Exactly – the “seizure” is essentially a sovereign default, which in a rational world would lead to credit downgrades for the issuers of the bonds.

Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Dec 12 2025 16:31 utc | 19

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Dec 12 2025 16:17 utc | 12


Is the CIA pulling the plug not only on the Ukraine project, but EU project as well?

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 16:32 utc | 20

The EU is broke, anyone who lives within the block knows this. So stealing other people’s property is the way our prodigious rulers know to restock. Of course some crumbs would be thrown to the UkroNazis. But the lion’s share of the loot is desperately needed in the EU. That’s why the EU cannot listen to voices of reasons in this regard. It’s a desperate gamble that the EU would regret for eternity. Stealing the assets would not change the destruction of Ukraine. 

Posted by: Steve | Dec 12 2025 16:36 utc | 21

which in a rational world would lead to credit downgrades for the issuers of the bonds.
 
Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Dec 12 2025 16:31 utc | 19
 

 
As Dorothy said, “Toto, I have a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore”.
 

Posted by: too scents | Dec 12 2025 16:36 utc | 22

I posted this thought over on the Ukraine thread, but is has a relationship to this topic: 
 
*** For every transaction there are a series of profitable trades, which can be derivative in nature, all of which require some sort of insight. Tech provides informational insight, and it matters not whether it is true or false because the “insight” creates a derivative trade, profitable opportunity. Those who profit then have an incentive to propagate a falsity because they are simply “talking their book.”  The Blob has captured tech in this way, which makes falsity profitable.  
Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 16:28 utc | 175
 
So the question here is what are the derivative trades and who is talking their book right now.  

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 16:37 utc | 23

European Outlaws are merely aping American Outlaws creating whatever sort of “law” needs to be made to further their Outlawry. The Vatican did that long ago by ruling interest isn’t usury which allowed it to make war on what it deemed heretics within the known world and then globally. And although we know well what was done and why, interest/usury still exists and controls most lives on the planet. And if Russia wins in court, the EU will just ignore the outcome just as the Outlaw US Empire does. Look at the EU/NATO reaction to all the OSCE Treaties they broke and UNSCR they ignored as precedents for what will happen next. The EU’s become the dictatorship to advance NATO’s interests as it was designed to do. The only way to freedom for Europeans is to abandon both institutions.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2025 16:40 utc | 24

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2025 16:40 utc | 24

 
Eu can ignore court verdicts but they can’t ignore Euroclear assets being frozen.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 16:42 utc | 25

But the lion’s share of the loot is desperately needed in the EU. 
 
Posted by: Steve | Dec 12 2025 16:36 utc | 21
 

 
The money has already been borrowed against.
 

Posted by: too scents | Dec 12 2025 16:42 utc | 26

This latest EU attempt at highway robbery orchestrated by Ursula Van der Liar is radical.  It attacks the basic underpinning of the international banking system, and points out how desperate the EU to use any means to save Volo and his merry band of Ukronazis from ignominious defeat on the battlefield.
The article 122 movement is supposedly being used to apply more pressure on RF to accept the new Volo peace plan (really the Macron and Starmer peace plan).  That is clearly delusional, this plan is completely unacceptable in Moscow and DC.  Its DOA.
The EU is grasping at straws – desperate folks do desperate things….beware of a UK black flag any day now. 

Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 12 2025 16:45 utc | 27

It would certainly help if there was some public clarity on what these ‘assets’ actually consist of.
 
But anyway, this move by the EU is purely performative, narrative to distract from the failure of Project Ukraine on the ground. They will have to backtrack, there are too many downsides and no upside.
 
The ECB have already expressed opposition to the move, and their mood won’t be lightening. 

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 16:45 utc | 28

This EU self imposed ‘crisis’ also serves to divert attention away from the continuing genocide in Gaza, where two million people continue to lack food, shelter from the winter rains (90% of Gaza homes have been destroyed by the IDF in yet another war crime), and medical supplies and attention (every single Gaza hospital have been damaged or destroyed by the IDF in yet another war crime).
The IDF continues to drastically restrict supplies from entering Gaza and continues its sea blockade of the Gaza coast.

Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 12 2025 16:50 utc | 29

Anyone who thinks Hungary, Slovakia, etc. are going exit the eu needs to become reacquainted with the real world. 
Eastern europe is entirely dependent upon eu structural adjustment monies and exporting unemployment to the eu core.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 16:52 utc | 30

How long can Ursula hang on anyway, especially with the defection of Belgium, Hungary and Slovakia.

Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 12 2025 16:53 utc | 31

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 16:32 utc | 20

 
I wouldn’t call it “pulling the plug”, more like going all-in with their disposable proxy chips. 
The gig is up fo NATO when Russia accomplishes its SMO goals on its own terms, and with it the Empire’s tight grip on EU members which hitherto was smoothly executed through Brusselian diktat. So, what does a desperate Empire do to counter an incoming threat to its hegemony? In this case it is sacrificing its vassals in the best traditions of anti-civilizational “scorched earth” tactics…

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Dec 12 2025 16:53 utc | 32

If the Irish coalition farce of Martin and Harris had any nuts, they too would defect from the Ursula plan, but alas they do not.
High time for Ireland to leave the EU and crazed green energy policies, support for IDF genocide and mandated mass immigration of illegal aliens.

Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 12 2025 16:55 utc | 33

Is it not time for Ireland to deport all the draft age Ukrainian males between 18 and 62, who are residing rent free in Irish hotels, and scamming the system for their food and drink?
Should not these folks be sent back to Kieve to be enlisted in the grand campaign for Nazi dominance of the Donbass ?

Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 12 2025 16:58 utc | 34

*** And although we know well what was done and why, interest/usury still exists and controls most lives on the planet. *** 
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2025 16:40 utc | 24
 
This is an issue that is old as the hills, an one that made Aaron of Lincoln ( c. 1123 – 1186) the wealthiest man in Norman England, all because the Plantagenets had an appetite for debt from those not constrained by the notion of usury. Usury is noting more that an excuse to exercise state power, back then most likely in the form of a pogrom. Maybe one could argue that a rules based order required the implementation of the Exchequer of the Jews, where usury didn’t really matter very much – because there were too many derivative trades, once could say. 

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 16:58 utc | 35

German foreign minister Wadephul again denied meeting in China, this time related to rare metal supplies. Must be tough, also after the defeat with the Brazilian rare metal mine supply.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1999460017179639912

 

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 16:59 utc | 36

The seized assets are not people, therefore should not be considered as some sort of hostage. Even if the Russians were so foolish, the nigh universal rule is, deem every hostage dead. 
 
So far as I can tell much of Smith’s pleasure is anticipatory, that most of the cases she sees as somehow promising legal relief are not precedents but hopes. So far as I can tell, the arbiters are more likely to obey realpolitik rather than the legalisms of any brief precisely because they are a semi-private, self-selected crew. And I don’t think Singapore is the place to expect a mere judge to defy the state. Singapore is not an enemy of the US and the US doesn’t care about Belgian banking. 
 
As to the notion that Brussels is delegitimizing itself? There seems to be two kinds of EU, the Maastricht kind and the Schengen kind. The Schengen kind with its open borders for professors etc. may be the kind of wokism, that collection of mental attitudes that outrage conservatives who worry more about other people’s personal lives than imperialism and class struggle. The thing about this is, there is a lot of popular support. And despite self-serving delusions, it is not just the mythical PMC, but lots and lots of ordinary people, working people who are supposedly all eager to serve the billionaires who fight to save their way of life.
 
There is also Maastricht EU, a collection of ruling classes that wants to enshrine such vital moral principles as hard money (except when it comes to war of course) and low public debt and lower public services and anti-labor laws and maximal freedom for capital to do what it wants.  The thing is, that  EU is not terribly popular (Maastricht treaties have been rejected in popular referenda,) except with ruling classes, who wrote those principles into their thieves’ compact in the first place. Thieves having no honor, sometimes some ruling class want to cheat. They seem to do this under cover of national rights. But when it comes down to it, if you follow the money, the overlap between the EU as a whole and any particular nation seems to be so great that mere squabbles and attempts to renege on deals are always mitigated by the great and simple truth: All parties have a common enemy, the working classes of every European nation. And the truism the enemy of my enemy is my ally will always find people to act on it. See Meloni and the Brothers of Italy, I think, to see what the delegitimization of EU will amount to. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Dec 12 2025 17:04 utc | 37

It would certainly help if there was some public clarity on what these ‘assets’ actually consist of. ***
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 16:45 utc | 28
 
This story has been shaped in a way that redirects discussion away from what “these ‘assets’ actually consist of.”
 
Nobody has engaged with my proposition and resulting question that, “what are the derivative trades and who is talking their book right now.” So my little experiment has yielded results – nobody knows and that is the point. Your not allowed to know. Russia bad.  

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 17:07 utc | 38

Remember that these oligarchs have more power than you expect. I have been shocked many times by how much lack of sovereignty Europeans will put up with.
Anybody predicting people will rise up to resist this show post some examples of when that has succeeded. I doubt any reaction is coming.

Posted by: Pym of Nantucket | Dec 12 2025 17:12 utc | 39

German foreign minister Wadephul again denied meeting in China, this time related to rare metal supplies. ***
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 16:59 utc | 37
 
Tangentially related:  https://korybko.substack.com/p/the-trans-siberian-railway-is-poised?triedRedirect=true
 
So China wants a trans steppe terminus of the old silk road through Odessa and into the Austro Hungarian Empire?  

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 17:12 utc | 40

frithguild@39:
 
“what are the derivative trades and who is talking their book right now”?
 
Excellent question.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 12 2025 17:17 utc | 41

@ frithguild | Dec 12 2025 17:07 utc | 39
 
We don’t even know what currencies they are denominated in; the overall total ( which itself keeps fluctuating) is commonly measured in US$ or €, but that isn’t much use, really.
 
Without (much) more detail, speculating about who has derivative or re-hypothecated trading positions doesn’t really lead us anywhere. As an example, if there are significant amounts of rouble denomination involved, then building derivative instruments on those is going to be complicated, to say the least.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 17:21 utc | 42

 frithguild | Dec 12 2025 16:58 utc | 36
 
Thanks for your reply. There’s a very stark contrast in behaviors present at the moment, although few will be aware of the International Forum on the theme “Peace and Trust: Unity of Purpose for a Sustainable Future” occurring today in Turkmenistan. Here’s the roster of heads of state attending. Many other nations are aligned with the principles expressed at that event–the Global Majority in fact. What I began writing about at the SMO’s outset that the world was dividing into a law-abiding bloc and an outlaw bloc has now progressed to the point where we can clearly see that happening. What’s forming are the lines of a different ideological war of the law-enforcers versus the law breakers. And given the stated goals and actions of the law breakers, something’s going to break rather soon. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2025 17:22 utc | 43

b: The decision will likely be challenged in court:    On Wednesday, Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever cast doubt over the suitability of Article 122 and the existence of an economic emergency to justify its activation.    “This is money from a country with which we are not at war,” De Wever said, speaking to reporters at the Belgian parliament. “It would be like breaking into an embassy, ​​taking out all the furniture, and selling it.”
 
Errr… Like the Americans ALREADY did to the Russians ten years ago?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 12 2025 17:23 utc | 44

Alastair Crooke’s latest notes the prevalence of “wishful thinking” motivating western policy surmises, coupled with a lack of “professionalism” with its  diplomatic outreach (i.e. negotiating with Trump’s real estate buddy and son-in-law, who have no official standing). 
 
“Trump wants a ‘win’ – an outcome that can be presented to the American public as another war ‘stopped by Trump’ (he claims it would be the eighth), whilst simultaneously sold to the deep powers as merely a hiatus in a conflict that will be resumed after a pause – when the Europeans (‘security guarantors’) have rebuilt the Ukrainian army. It would represent ‘a win’ for the ‘hawks’ because it can be ‘narrated’ that resumed military conflict would eat into the Russian economy, and might even end with Putin’s removal from office. Wishful thinking, of course. But so many western narratives are wishful, rather than realist thinking.”

Posted by: jayc | Dec 12 2025 17:26 utc | 45

When ever Rutte steps to the podium. 
This quote seems appropriate. 
 
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubt, while the stupid people are full of confidence.”
—Charles Bukowski
 
 

Posted by: jpc | Dec 12 2025 17:29 utc | 46

When ever Rutte steps to the podium.
Or any of the EU  political fauna for that matter VDL  especially with the patronising condescending  manner.  
This quote seems appropriate. 
 
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubt, while the stupid people are full of confidence.”
—Charles Bukowski
 
 

Posted by: jpc | Dec 12 2025 17:31 utc | 47

It comes to something when 500 million EU residents will be reliant on the hated international bankers and their globalist pampering treaties to put an end to this – I guess it’s a sign of just how bad the madness has become.
People go mad in crowds and come to their senses one by one. Until then, the Gang of Four will run riot – Evil Empress Ursula, Daddy’s Princess Kaja and the knaves Merz and Macron. Where is Carlos the Jackal when you need him?
Meanwhile, if you hold Euros, sell them. Even Zimbabwean dollars look like a good bet.
Cui bono? Just about every one else – US, BRICS etc, etc. All that FDI has to somewhere, even only into bonds. Likewise alternative payment clearing systems are due for a boost.
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 12 2025 17:34 utc | 48

*** speculating about who has derivative or re-hypothecated trading positions doesn’t really lead us anywhere. ***
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 17:21 utc | 43
 
Think bigger – who ever heard of a synthetic CDO before 2008? When I describe a derivative trade, I am not talking about just the established financial products for on the books deals.   

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 17:40 utc | 49

As international law and old treaties and agreements continue to devolve we are now beginning to live in an earlier stage of history–we are going medieval in the Western Empire that seems intuitively to want to reject modernism and liberalism (in the old definition of the term–today’s liberals are globalist neo-fascists and aren’t anywhere near what us old-leftists called the left. Anyway, it is now the law of force–no more bullshit about “democracy” or “international law” or even domestic laws. Lawfare and other practices have seriously deconstructed the structure of law built up over the centuries–in the US we’re not at the end of it but it’s fading fast. In Europe law, morality, justice is about gone if things continue as they have even in the internal institutions. It’s the law of the fist and the gun, i.e., fascism all the way down in the Empire–this could change very rapidly as people wake up to the nature of t heir power-elite. 

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Dec 12 2025 17:41 utc | 50

“Is it not time for Ireland to deport all the draft age Ukrainian males between 18 and 62, who are residing rent free in Irish hotels, and scamming the system for their food and drink? Should not these folks be sent back….”?
– Tobias Cole 35

High Time…honestly, well past it.  Ireland for the Irish.  The Irish threw off the English at high cost and now bow down before the English in their new guise, the globalist-neocolonialist-neocons…a disgrace to our forebearers.

Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 12 2025 17:42 utc | 51

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Posted by: NJH | Dec 12 2025 17:43 utc | 52

 One of the stated aims of the SMO was to bring down Nato and the EU. If  all three parties to the disagreement plus US , UK,  Russia and the Zits all crashed, the world would be a  better place.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 12 2025 17:44 utc | 53

Thank you b! I was reading about this on Twitter earlier and had a bit of difficulty figuring out what Orban was referring to. But now you made it clear. Article 122.

Posted by: rert | Dec 12 2025 17:46 utc | 54

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Dec 12 2025 17:41 utc | 51
 
#####
 
Liberalism was always a tool of the state. As with any ideology or movement, it was wielded as a weapon against enemies and abandoned when it conflicted with Imperial ambition.
 
It’s not a coincidence that the Talmudists had their fingers all over the Enlightenment (Haskalah), much of which borrowed from the Islamic Golden Age. The whole point was to subvert Christianity with atheism and liberalism.
 
Like many stupid ideas, liberalism sounds good but is predicated on a denial of the laws of power.
 
It has never not been the law of the jungle. It has never not been might makes right.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 12 2025 17:48 utc | 55

The SMO is revealing who the Europeans are: lawless people without any moral values, ready to do anything with the stupid hope to break Russia and to loot the resources of the territory of the Federation. And at the same time degrading the conditions of life of their own people who are too alienated to revolt and for instance go on strike.

Posted by: Naive | Dec 12 2025 17:49 utc | 56

And as usual the EU is taked about as if it ever was an independent entity while in reality the US created it for its own interests. Now those who knew are presumably dead and academia in Europe or other intellectuals may very well be completely ignorant about it. The authors Pierre & Danielle de Villemarest died in februari 22 and mars 5,  2008. That was a volatile period in that Putin had put down his foot about Russias interest. The author pair had published Facts and Chronicles denied to the public in three volumes  around six to five years earlier where the truth about how the EU emerged was described. Natural deaths? Cause of death was not found by AI when I enquired. Be aware that the Trump government probably is ignorant about how EU came about. So the CIA manipulated and paid the activists to create an EU to americas liking and then everything is forgotten and the EU fades away or maybe even dragges us all inte WW3, but afterwards, if there is one, we will all be told we did it to ourselves, right?

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 12 2025 17:52 utc | 57

Correction: apparently Putin began complaining in April 2008 so those authors died ‘just in time’ no?

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 12 2025 17:55 utc | 58

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 16:32 utc | 20

Is the CIA pulling the plug not only on the Ukraine project, but EU project as well?

I guess it was always just a limited hangout.  Thanks for the Fico quote. 
Who knows, maybe Nawrocki will call for a Polexit, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agD1qBr-y9I

Posted by: lex talionis | Dec 12 2025 17:55 utc | 59

who ever heard of a synthetic CDO before 2008?

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 17:40 utc | 50
 
At least with those there was some underlying liquidity, however miniscule. These Russian assets have been frozen for years, with the freezing being renewed every 6 months up until now. This information is in the public domain, widely-known.
 
Anybody selling synthetic instruments based on these frozen assets is knowingly committing fraud, and anybody buying them is a fool deserving to be parted from their money.
 
So which body is going to take that risk? Euroclear themselves? The ECB? Western commercial banks?
 
Sorry, but I’m having difficulty buying into this scenario, far too much political and financial risk involved.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 17:58 utc | 60

Rota – The Oath
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rota_(poem)
My failed Poland link.

Posted by: lex talionis | Dec 12 2025 18:00 utc | 61

So, are european stock exchanges and the euro tanking at the news?
Far as I can tell, they are not. So stop kidding yourselves. 

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 18:01 utc | 62

I think that the 140B in assets would not be enough for the EU to self-destruct in this manner.
I expect that they are planning to leverage that amount – probably at least 10:1.
Essentially, they are simply printing money without acknowledging that fact – since it is not actually their own assets.
Then of course they reveal themselves as scoundrels.
There are kinds of mistakes which are very tempting because the effects are not immediate and not readily traced to the source.
What does happen is nearly immediately some will become more wealthy. Claw-backs are called for.

Posted by: jared | Dec 12 2025 18:01 utc | 63

So, are european stock exchanges and the euro tanking at the news?Far as I can tell, they are not.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 18:01 utc | 63
 
That is because the market thinks the same thing as I do; this is going nowhere, and the EU will have to climb down.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 18:07 utc | 64

Posted by: jared | Dec 12 2025 18:01 utc | 64

Printing won’t help, it will just weaken the Euro and make it harder for EU states to import anything needed for a war economy, from energy to rare materials which they are already having a hard time getting. Any way you slice it, Eurozone is a dead economy. It may be wise to not keep assets beyond what is needed for bill paying in Euro denominated currency or assets.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 18:08 utc | 65

Medvedev claimed this would be a casus belli
if the eu back down from this it might be to do with whatever backk channel threats the Russians have made to them 

Posted by: Night Tripper | Dec 12 2025 18:13 utc | 66

Isn’t it funny to think about what the situation with EU leaders really is?
Either:  1) they are delusional,  amoral fools with no depth of knowledge or thinking, utterly superficial ……or
2) evil elite masterminds gambling to save themselves , untermenschen be damned and fully aware of their predicament.
I’m going with number 1.  Zelensky – their hero and friend – was a comedian who actually previously played the TV role of leader of Ukraine. Von Der Lyin’ was a gynecologist. Christine Legarde seemed surprized that Putin carefully prepared for negotiations as a habit.  Collectively, they seem shocked that the surrounding world ignores their dictates, as if ignorant of their vassalhood.  Weirdly, they are obsessed with immigrant policies that bleed away what public support they have left. 
I think they are exactly what they appear to be, astonishing as that is.  Their spiritual Father is Hitler in his bunker days, plotting miraculous counter attacks and denying defeats. It could be argued that  they are exactly what conservative critics think they are – the end result of years of cradle to grave social democracy that has trained them in feeble thinking and self delusion.  I am not surprised that a rape victim in Germany felt apologetic for getting an immigrant in legal trouble.
 

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 12 2025 18:15 utc | 67

That is because the market thinks the same thing as I do; this is going nowhere, and the EU will have to climb down.
 
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 18:07 utc | 65
Keep telling yourself that. The odds that the eu will do whatever it takes to get its way just went up a lot today. The market reaction was ho-hum.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 18:16 utc | 68

Belgian PM meets Starmer today
 
He is loyal to EU but  skeptical about the loan for reparations. Still worried very concerned about the all the many  details and responsibilities consequences etc…
 
MoD repeats Rutte and co “the shadow of war looms …rapidly preparing plans for conflict”……
 
For some reason sky news showing spitfires from WW2 and we are venerable today, best is to prepare for war etc etc, Russia knows we are vulnerable…….etc etc

Posted by: Jo | Dec 12 2025 18:18 utc | 69

As I understand, the war in Ukraine is about stopping closer Eurasian cooperation. Also, looting EU and Russia would be perfectly fine. Well, at least EU.

Posted by: Grey Cloud | Dec 12 2025 18:19 utc | 70

The odds that the eu will do whatever it takes to get its way just went up a lot today.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 18:16 utc | 69
 
Keep telling yourself that if you wish, but backing down is “baked-in”, inevitable.
 
I promise not to gloat after the narrative unravels…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 18:21 utc | 71

Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 18:16 utc | 69


The market ultimately doesn’t react to narratives or words, it reacts to liquidity conditions. If EU prints money, nominal asset prices will go up, given other liquidity sinks (like debt refinancing) don’t drain the new money.
 
Yes, some people will get rich but the economy as a whole is cratering and Germany can’t even build much of anything. The only thing I see constantly reported as being built are FPV style drones. Almost certainly because drones are very simple to build and doesn’t require too much industrialization or assembly plant equipment, which does not readily exist in EU.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 12 2025 18:26 utc | 72

I am skeptical that courts will accomplish anything. As Mao observed, all power comes from the barrel of a gun.
What can Russia do as to seizing EU assets? Businesses, aircraft, ships and so on. How are EU airlines surviving the avoidance of Russia? This theft will also lock them out of the Arctic Passage, I would think.
 
Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 12 2025 15:52 utc | 3
 
I think that quote may be apocryphal.  Nonetheless, it’s probably the stupidest quote in history.  Yes, force is ultimately the determining factor, but as we see in Ukraine the real power is productive capacity.  Without that, you’re outgunned.  Production, not just guns and money, is the power that determines every war.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Dec 12 2025 18:28 utc | 73

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 12 2025 17:48 utc | 56
Yes, to some extent force has always been dominant–but liberalism in the old form was about openness to new ideas and living out the mores of a good part of the Western humanist tradition based on Greek thought. The idea was to promote the ethics inherent in our Western tradition even if it was dishonored many times by the martinets, criminals, and reactionary conservatives who want a rigid system. The ideal is to have segments of society that are willing to react to changed conditions and segments of society that resist that and then a balance can be achieved. Liberalism was very successful in creating a reasonably convivial society from the mid-19th century until the mid-eighties of the 20th century when things started falling and the moral and political traditions began to disintegrate in a big way. We are now in new territory when traditional liberalism and conservatism are obsolete and thus we have the so-called law of the jungle in operations in the West. I’m optimistic we’ll find our way as we renew the moral foundations of society.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Dec 12 2025 18:30 utc | 74

Putin knows now that the EU is above the law.
Russia is entitled to retaliate against any EU country that agreed for the theft of Russian money.
I am sure that Russia is taking this calmly. The collapse of Ukraine militarily will be the first part of the program. Then the occupation of Odessa will follow. Without the usa Nato is crippled.. The EU will enter into war? 

Posted by: Virgile | Dec 12 2025 18:33 utc | 75

Putin knows now that the EU is above the law.
Russia is entitled to retaliate against any EU country that agreed for the theft of Russian money.
I am sure that Russia is taking this calmly. The collapse of Ukraine militarily will be the first part of the program. Then the occupation of Odessa will follow. Without the usa Nato is crippled.. The EU will enter into war? 

Posted by: Virgile | Dec 12 2025 18:34 utc | 76

When ever Rutte steps to the podium. This quote seems appropriate.  The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubt, while the stupid people are full of confidence.”—Charles Bukowski  
Posted by: jpc | Dec 12 2025 17:29 utc | 47

 
Irish poet W.B. Yeats expressed the same idea in a famous poem (The Second Coming) over 100 years ago:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre   
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere   
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst   
Are full of passionate intensity.
 
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.   
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out   
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert   
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,   
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,   
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it   
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.   
The darkness drops again; but now I know   
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,   
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,   
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Posted by: N_H | Dec 12 2025 18:35 utc | 77

Going back to my point yesterday that Rubio is playing Trump for a fool:
 

Rubio is “the tailor” whispering sweet nothings as in the “Emperor’s New Clothes”. Then there is Trump’s gullibility for such nonsense. But, in a slight twist, instead of parading naked the vain emperor gets exposed as a liar before his subjects, dividing those that put him on the throne. And then the crown goes to “Rubio the tailor” who weaved the web that Trump walked into blinded by hubris…Rubio knows “the king must die” but…by his own hand so that the coalition that elected him returns to the dust of the coliseum floor

We have this news-story* in which VP-Vance’s competent confidant is replaced by Hegseth’s order.  Hegseth, is a man ever eager to be made a fool of by Rubio.  Rubio in turn has now cut almost all the threads in Trumps coalition that do not belong to the globalist-neocolonialist-neocons or as I finished:
 

This then leaves the globalist-neocolonial/neocons ruling the Republican party unchallenged, think Cheney, Romney and that Goldwater girl

*https://en.topwar.ru/275043-hegset-otstranil-driskolla-ot-peregovorov-po-ukraine-za-chrezmernoe-userdie.html

Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 12 2025 18:36 utc | 78

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 12 2025 17:22 utc | 44
 
What’s forming are the lines of a different ideological war of the law-enforcers versus the law breakers. And given the stated goals and actions of the law breakers, something’s going to break rather soon. 
 
<=best description of the month.. 
 

Posted by: snake | Dec 12 2025 18:39 utc | 79

“Is it not time for Ireland to deport all the draft age Ukrainian males between 18 and 62, who are residing rent free in Irish hotels, and scamming the system for their food and drink?Should not these folks be sent back to Kieve to be enlisted in the grand campaign for Nazi dominance of the Donbass ?” — Posted by: tobias cole | Dec 12 2025 16:58 utc | 35
 
These are people fleeing a nazi regime. The question is, is it reasonable to expect them to go home and overthrow the fascists? Where their host countries support this regime?
 
So returning is a death sentence. Which the EU endorses. As the Cookie Lady says, “Fuck the EU!”?
 
It’s complicated. This is all the leadership but they have support.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 12 2025 18:40 utc | 80

Medvedev claimed …
Posted by: Night Tripper | Dec 12 2025 18:13 utc | 67
 
The guy who gave a part of Russia full of resources to another country isn’t exactly an intelligent guy or an example.
Let him take a gun and go to war with Eu if he wants to, or more exactly if Trumpy orders him to do so.
Also everyone forgets that Uk alone has stolen the entire gold of another country only a few years ago and it caused no effects, zero. Many many money. If you think the planet won’t put money in Eu just because they’ve stolen Russian money you will have a big surprise. If you think anyone will stop trade with Us because they’re stealing ships around Venezuela you will also have a surprise, not even Russia will comment. 

Posted by: rk | Dec 12 2025 18:41 utc | 81

I am skeptical that courts will accomplish anything

Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 12 2025 15:52 utc | 3
 
Missed this earlier:
 
The first thing the courts will accomplish is delay; the last thing Ukraine or its EU backers need is delay.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 18:42 utc | 82

UK President of NATO Parliamentary Assembly…UK is not fit for war fighting nor manufacture, “going to lose a lot of USA capability previously replied on so we are running to where we used to be”…public still focused on domestic issues…there are weekly attacks on satellites facility, expanding Russian hardware ships etc, .hostile intelligence activity  up 50%….public is not fearing Russia yet, public not have a resilience plan  eg stock reserves for home in case of war…..war fighting is about economy skills resilience….what happens if UK shuts down eg cables cyber attacks chips etc etc
 
Well better surrender quick.

Posted by: Jo | Dec 12 2025 18:42 utc | 83

RK….not many years ago UK had seized for d cases Iran funds and they only got them back recently last couple years or so ……?

Posted by: Jo | Dec 12 2025 18:44 utc | 84

These are people fleeing a nazi regime…So returning is a death sentence
– David G Horsman 81

Let’s break that down a bit. 
 
These are people fleeing a nazi regime”  are they?  There is no evidence for that, unlike in WWII where expats fought ferociously against the Nazi regime.  Far more likely, they are, like all ardent Nazis, hiding as far in the rear as possible. 
 
So returning is a death sentence” Is it?  How do we know they are not reservist for the Galician SS waiting for the war to end in order that they may rekindle the smoldering remains into another conflagration?  In any event, the upper-most-class of England and their fellow Angliphilic-Atlantisists made this war, let them personally house those they feel should be spared.

Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 12 2025 18:53 utc | 85

Hmm true or fantasy?
 
Zelensky taunted Putin today, as he was filmed within reach of Russian shelling to back his troops who retain control of this key territory.
‘Many Russians have talked about Kupyansk – we can see that,’ he said, mocking Putin.
‘I was there, I congratulated the guys [Ukrainian forces].
‘Thank you to every unit, to everyone who is fighting here, to everyone who is destroying the occupier.’
In a video aimed at Donald Trump over the peace negotiations, he said it was ‘extremely important to achieve results on the front so that Ukraine can achieve results in diplomacy – that’s how it works’. 

Posted by: Jo | Dec 12 2025 18:54 utc | 86

*** So which body is going to take that risk? Euroclear themselves? The ECB? Western commercial banks? Sorry, but I’m having difficulty buying into this scenario, far too much political and financial risk involved.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 17:58 utc | 61
 
I dont blame you – what I propose is happening is fantastical.
 
Look – open you mind to the idea that facism implies a base level cooperation between government and existing business interests. Now close the concept that base layer cooperation exists regardless of the descriptor of the system, here facism. Now consider that an opportunity presents for one to undertake a course of action that could be fraud, but it benefits the very government that keeps the gate for fraud enforcement and which is actively mediating public perception about what facts are false (an element of fraud). With great risk come great rewards.
 
The three options you ask that may act this way (Euroclear, the ECB or a commercial bank) obviously could not possibly do this because they act in sunlight only. But that does not mean a darker pools of capital do not exist.
 
I may be delusional but why is Larry Fink in Ukraine?

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 18:55 utc | 87

Merz vs Merkel , sad but funny
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V5wdpqo7V80
 
Reflect the same stituation here in Italy was well

Posted by: Friul | Dec 12 2025 19:00 utc | 88

Difficult to imagine all of this… Can the EU Commission raid a bank like that? Do they have a supranational financial SWAT team that can break into a bank sidelining the national (Belgian) police forces securing the institutions in Brussels? The Belgians should have conceded extraterritoriality to Euroclear as the BIS in Basel has. Nobody can enter there.

Posted by: Teraspol | Dec 12 2025 19:02 utc | 89

The anglosaxon empire is now busy fomenting war where Japan will add cannon fodder. How long will it take before the rest of theworld gets focussed on their perennial foe- And finally gets it?

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 12 2025 19:03 utc | 90

It would certainly help if there was some public clarity on what these ‘assets’ actually consist of. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 16:45 utc | 28
See Brad Setsers overview in  https://www.cfr.org/article/how-use-russias-frozen-assets

Posted by: JG | Dec 12 2025 19:05 utc | 91

The market reaction was ho-hum.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Dec 12 2025 18:16 utc | 69

A cynical mind might think that is the precise reason that the EU commission sneaked thus through in a ‘written vote’ (no meeting, no guilty list) on a Friday.
We should reserve judgement on any market reaction until next week – particularly after the inevitable storm of harsh words from the RF and others, op-eds pro and contra and the reaction of wealthy investors the world over…
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Dec 12 2025 19:07 utc | 92

 It is tacitly verboten (forbidden) for any media, even podcasts, to reveal the simple fact that the “Emperor” wears no clothes. Those Brussels bureaucraps have no agency.  They are mere actors/waiters taking orders.  Those ukases do not even emanate  from the EU captive nations themselves.  City of London financiers are the prime culprits, with Wall $treet in tow…while the full panoply of actual rulers, all converge in Basel, Switzerland with their Bank of International Settlements.
 
These greedy and power-mad culprits hunger for total world domination…a Panopticon writ large.  Their minions and stooges are many and  are totally on board.  We, the serfs of those moneymongers, are considered as mere Goyim or cattle.  There is no fellow human feeling or compassion.
 
 Just last night I watched a podcast of a multi-billionaire name of Richard Blackstone who bought himself an island some 20 odd miles off the coast of Georgia.  He set up a totally exclusive hunting refuge on that island…strictly limited exclusively to fellow billionaires.
 The object of the hunt was the biggest game…fellow humans.  My assumption/presumption was that the presentation is genuine. If that is indeed the case, it is an object lesson which clearly describes the mentality of those with waaaaay too much money.
 
At present we are teetering on the brink.  The Hopi elders, quite conscious of the fact that three previous centralized and urbanized cultures had lost all awareness of the oneness of the human race.  They were out of balance. Their highly advanced civilizations were destroyed by deluges.
 
As quantum physicists have discovered, human thought and actions influence the material world…mind over matter.  To the ruling elite, the restive us do not matter.  A Great Awakening is brewing amongst the thinking classes, particularly amongst the three younger generations, embellished a bit by handfuls of we old farts.  This understanding gives me hope for the future as we segue from the 6,000 year reign of the Kali Yuga Epoch…which, according to the researchers of the Mayan Calendar, began with the Vernal Equinox of this Roman calendar year of 2025.
 
Currently we are at the mid-point of the cycle which began in 2012.  One way or the other, massive changes are fast upon us. For those who live in huge metropolitan areas, my simple advice is “head for the hills”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Dec 12 2025 19:08 utc | 93

EU dcides to indefinitely seize Russian assets..Russia says z proposing elections and setting conditions  requiring  security guarantees is only a ploy( to keep USA attached  and EU involved) to delay settlement and this to get ceasefire only to delay a final resolution and build up military again..
 
 

Posted by: Jo | Dec 12 2025 19:10 utc | 94

The EU is no seriously damaged – its credibility around the globe has has been removed – no nation or business will now invest in it knowing that their assets can be seized at any moment – the Brussels bigwigs have now become a gang of mobsters and thieves – there’s only two viable routes now for EU citizens to take force the collapse of the EU via revolutions (civil disobedience) or individual nations citizens should force their governments to remove their nation from the EU – by the sounds of things Hungary might be the first to do so.
 
Orban is a pain in the backside to the EU warmongering thieving Big Wigs, they might try and do a Fico on him and attempt an assassination of him.
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 12 2025 19:11 utc | 95

@ frithguild | Dec 12 2025 18:55 utc | 88
 
Thanks for the further elucidation and you have my agreement that it makes sense as theoretical whole.
 
However, this part:

but it benefits the very government that keeps the gate for fraud enforcement

falls down in the particular case of the Euroclear assets held in Belgium, because we have two entities of government, the Belgian government and that of the EU, in direct  and open disagreement, with the Belgian side standing firm.
 
Do we have a conflict between national-level “fascism”, with the Belgian government standing alongside its national-level business, and EU-level “fascism”, seeking to grab control of all national-level businesses?
 
Which one is the gate-keeper for the fraud? Does the other party seek a bigger slice of the pie?
 
~~~
 
Who might be other players in the background, telling the EU not to follow through with this seizure? The US? The ECB? Even the IMF or BIS? China?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Dec 12 2025 19:12 utc | 96

Cue trillions of Foreign Financial Assets to slowly leak out of EU, EFTA,  and England.  

Posted by: exile | Dec 12 2025 19:13 utc | 97

*** why is Larry Fink in Ukraine [right now]?
Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 18:55 utc | 88
 
AI answer: BlackRock CEO Larry Fink is in Ukraine as part of a high-profile U.S. delegation to discuss and develop an economic action plan for Ukraine’s postwar reconstruction and recovery.

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 12 2025 19:15 utc | 98

I rob a bank and go to prison, the EU robs a bank and have a party….

Posted by: Squeeth | Dec 12 2025 19:18 utc | 99

Orban is a pain in the backside to the EU Big Wigs, they might try and do a Fico on him…
– Republicofscotland 96

I think that highly likely…having sweet nothings whispered in his ear by Rubio…Trump might well stand by and let his most ardent supporter die at the hands of Rubio’s-globalist-cabal.

Posted by: S Brennan | Dec 12 2025 19:23 utc | 100