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December 2, 2025
NATO Thinks Of ‘Pre-emptive Strikes’ Against Russia To ‘Defend’ Against Something That Did Not Happen

As it is becoming obvious that Ukraine is losing in the proxy war against Russia, the ideas European governments are are throwing around are getting more crazy.

Some are now eager to ‘pre-emptively’ attack Russia in ‘retaliation’ for alleged ‘hybrid attacks’ against European countries. Those ‘hybrid attacks’ are mostly pure fantasies.

Politico was first to report this nonsense:

Europe thinks the unthinkable: Retaliating against RussiaPolitico, Nov 27 2025
Countries are looking at joint offensive cyber operations and surprise military drills as Moscow steps up its campaign to destabilize NATO allies.

Russia’s drones and agents are unleashing attacks across NATO countries and Europe is now doing what would have seemed outlandish just a few years ago: planning how to hit back.

Ideas range from joint offensive cyber operations against Russia, and faster and more coordinated attribution of hybrid attacks by quickly pointing the finger at Moscow, to surprise NATO-led military exercises, according to two senior European government officials and three EU diplomats.

“The Russians are constantly testing the limits — what is the response, how far can we go?” Latvian Foreign Minister Baiba Braže noted in an interview. A more “proactive response is needed,” she told POLITICO. “And it’s not talking that sends a signal — it’s doing.”

What are the ‘hybrid attacks’ in question?

Russian drones have buzzed Poland and Romania in recent weeks and months, while mysterious drones have caused havoc at airports and military bases across the continent. Other incidents include GPS jamming, incursions by fighter aircraft and naval vessels, and an explosion on a key Polish rail link ferrying military aid to Ukraine.

The idea to ‘pre-empivly’ attack Russia comes from an Italian defense paper:

Last week, Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto slammed the continent’s “inertia” in the face of growing hybrid attacks and unveiled a 125-page plan to retaliate. In it, he suggested establishing a European Center for Countering Hybrid Warfare, a 1,500-strong cyber force, as well as military personnel specialized in artificial intelligence.

To me that looks like someone is seeking additional NATO payments. Three days later a Italian NATO general furthered the idea:

Nato considers being ‘more aggressive’ against Russia’s hybrid warfare (archived) – Financial Times, Nov 30 025
Alliance’s top military officer says it could become proactive in dealing with Moscow threat

Nato is considering being “more aggressive” in responding to Russia’s cyber attacks, sabotage and airspace violations, according to the alliance’s most senior military officer.

Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone told the Financial Times that the western military alliance was looking at stepping up its response to hybrid warfare from Moscow.

Some diplomats, especially from eastern European countries, have urged Nato to stop being merely reactive and hit back. Such a response would be easiest for cyber attacks where many countries have offensive capabilities but would be less easy for sabotage or drone intrusions.

Dragone said that a “pre-emptive strike” could be considered a “defensive action”, but added: “It is further away from our normal way of thinking and behaviour.”

He added: “Being more aggressive compared with the aggressivity of our counterpart could be an option. [The issues are] legal framework, jurisdictional framework, who is going to do this?”

Admiral Dragone is using Orwellian speech when he seems obviously lobbying for 1,500 NATO paid jobs in his home country.

One problem with this is that there is little evidence of any ‘hybrid attacks’.

Ursula von der Leyen was caught outright lying when her staff claimed that alleged Russian GPS distortion had prolonged a flight she was taking.

The alleged intrusion of Russian planes into Estonian airspace had turned out to be an innocent passage near an uninhabited island far from the coast.

The Dutch magazine Trouw has found that the myriad of recent drone panics had little to do with Russia.

Analysis sixty drone incidents in Europe: a lot of panic and little evidence (archived) – Trouw.nl

Machine translation:

Using the Dronewatch platform, Trouw mapped around sixty incidents involving drones in eleven European countries. These took place in the last three months. The conclusion: a lot of confusion and ambiguity and regular false alarms. For Russian involvement, as some authorities and experts point out, in the vast majority of cases no hard evidence has been provided.

In about forty incidents, the origin is still unclear or no evidence has been found for drones in the airspace. An example is Oslo, where drone reports shut down air traffic at the end of September, affecting thousands of travelers. The police did not find any confirmation afterwards that drones were actually flying. The same was true for reports at the airport of Swedish Gothenburg in early November.

In at least fourteen cases, it turned out to be something completely different afterwards. For example, people in Belgium mistook (small) planes and helicopters for drones, while the flying objects in South Limburg and Danish Billund were stars. The Norwegian police concluded that a suspicious ‘drone’ near an oil platform in the North Sea was probably a ship.

A number of times it has been established that drone flights were the work of a hobbyist or that it later turned out to be a tourist. In an incident in Warsaw where a drone flew over government buildings, Polish police picked up a Ukrainian and a 17-year-old girl from Belarus. There is no evidence of espionage.

This picture was published by media as showing alleged damage by an alleged explosion along a Polish rail line


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According to the Polish outlet Super Express, a train driver travelling near the Mikołajówka (Mika) station informed dispatchers at 07:39 about irregularities in the rail infrastructure.

A preliminary inspection revealed that roughly one meter of track had been destroyed, forcing the train to stop. No passengers or crew members were injured.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk later underscored the gravity of the incident on X, stating:

“Blowing up the rail track on the Warsaw–Lublin route is an unprecedented act of sabotage targeting directly the security of the Polish state and its civilians. This route is also crucially important for delivering aid to Ukraine. We will catch the perpetrators, whoever they are.”

Nothing was ‘blown up’. What can be seen in the picture is not the result of an explosion. For comparison you might want to watch this attempt (vid) of using C-4 explosive to cut an I-beam. It is a VERY violent process. But the track ballast under the broken rail as well as the sleepers seem undisturbed and undamaged. The incident was most likely a brittle crack caused by fatigue. The rail was probably not firmly fixed on the sleepers and bent when trains were running over it. When that happens one time too many rails will break.

The alleged ‘hybrid attacks’ by Russia are over-hyped normal incidents with little if any relation to Russia. To use these as an excuse for ‘pre-emptive strikes’, be it cyber or whatnot, hardly makes such ‘defensive’.

And what, by the way, is Admiral Dragone planing to do if Russia hits back?

Comments

And what, by the way, is Admiral Dragone planing to do if Russia hits back?

Posted by b on December 2, 2025 at 11:43 UTC
A nuclear attack, of course, by the Americans, naturally. After all, it’s high time to show the Russians who’s boss. /Sartire
 

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 11:56 utc | 1

ECB Rejects European Commission Plan to Back Ukraine Loan With Frozen Russian Assets — Report

https://sputnikglobe.com/20251202/ecb-rejects-european-commission-plan-to-back-ukraine-loan-with-frozen-russian-assets–report-1123210574.html
 
The European Central Bank (ECB) has rejected the European Commission’s (EC) request to provide liquidity to guarantee a loan to Ukraine using frozen Russian assets, the Financial Times newspaper reported on Tuesday, citing multiple officials.
 

According to the report, EC officials asked the ECB to act as a lender of last resort for the Euroclear settlement and clearing system to prevent a liquidity crisis while facilitating the loan to Ukraine.
 

The ECB’s internal analysis found the commission’s proposal amounted to direct financing of governments, since the central bank would assume the financial obligations of member states jointly guaranteeing the loan repayment under Brussels’ plan, the report said.
 

Providing such funds by central banks is prohibited under the Treaty on European Union, it added.
 

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 12:01 utc | 2

Straw Wars: Attack of the Drones…🙄

Posted by: Nobody | Dec 2 2025 12:01 utc | 3

How many Europeans have been killed/injured by Russian drones on EU territory? 

Posted by: Fredrick | Dec 2 2025 12:04 utc | 4

It’s like seeing children in kindergarten discussing among each other how they will win WW III. It’s embarrassing that the guy is actually Italian, albeit of course the jobs would be good for Italy. 
Same goes for “negotiations” between USA and Ukraine. Unreal. This is the same as Il Duce and Hitler having “negotiations” about peace in October 1943, but without the Allies. 

Posted by: Gordon Brown | Dec 2 2025 12:05 utc | 5

As it is becoming obvious that Ukraine is losing in the proxy war against Russia, the ideas European governments are are throwing around are getting more crazy.
Some are now eager to ‘pre-emptively’ attack Russia in ‘retaliation’ for alleged ‘hybrid attacks’ against European countries. Those ‘hybrid attacks’ are mostly pure fantasies.
[…]
And what, by the way, is Admiral Dragone planing to do if Russia hits back?
 

In a certain sense, I find it good that our great leaders such as this fearsome Italian admiral (lol!), who has never been in a real war, are seeking consolation from the sorrow of our defeat in the Ukraines with empty threats, weak chest thumping and opportunities to create some useless jobs for spaghetties.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Dec 2 2025 12:08 utc | 6

Attacking/provoking a nuclear and hypersonic superpower which also owns glas fibre and AI drones … What could possibly go wrong?
Armchair general!

Posted by: V for Vendetta | Dec 2 2025 12:27 utc | 7

only by destroying the village can we save the village long ago we remembered a village over a 2 thousand actually in korea the home of kimchi.
 
only by destroying everything and killing off a sizable number of the new village hitlers did we save korean.
russia must be more gay and wide open to gay zion.
atomization dustification is the only way as per the protoculls of the elders of zion town.
dust conversion is the only way to reset new hitler putin
oded yinon new khazharia never rests the b i s imf world bank city of london wall street approves this message
my chabad life already

Posted by: normal wisdom | Dec 2 2025 12:27 utc | 8

To terrorystyczny, mafijno-oligarchiczny I banderowski reżim kijowski urzadza akcję terrorystyczne w całej UE żeby pchnac nas di goracej wojny z Rosja 

Posted by: Krzysztof Mróź | Dec 2 2025 12:38 utc | 9

The biggest jacka$$ of them all was Supreme Allied Commander of Europe (SACEUR) General Philip Breedlove dictating as active military to civilian leadership … 🤑 followed by Dutchman Rob Bauer – Ivo Daalder – Mark Rutte … NATO and MAGA the blessings for an impoverished European Union.
From VP Cheney’s declaration of war on Russia in 2008 @NATO Summit, policy shifted to making Russia a pariah state … New Red Scare of today.

Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 12:40 utc | 10

Some infantilized societies seem to have difficulty to grasp the principle of “consequences”.
The dumbest of them like to stir trouble with big guys, then pushing their daddy/bf/husband (whom they despise) to a fight, so they can see them getting hurt.
Serious daddy issues among all the eurtards leaders?

Posted by: Asian Frog | Dec 2 2025 12:42 utc | 11

Thanks for bringing this up too, b!  Simplicius ran a similar post in the last 24 hours, and many in our Anti-Swamp base here think that Western leaders and mouthpieces are mere clowns.  They might be, but they for sure as evil as hell, because they know exactly what they are doing.  Laugh all you will at statements from Kallas, Pistorius, Merz, Starmer, von der Leyen, Rutte, Macron and Dragone.
 
As a citizen of one of the countries they rule, EU countries + UK, you better stop laughing.  Because once they finish finishing off the last Ukrainian in their Russlandfeldzug 2.0, they will come for you.  As a matter of fact, they already are, presented to you as a surcharge on every bill you’ve been paying since the start of Operation Z.  And they will double down, and at one point your personal physical safety will be at stake.
 
Ironically, it is the current senior generation in said countries beating the war drums the hardest.  It is the first generation not to have lived through WW2 themselves, and they obviously don’t know how to tell truth from propaganda.  (To be fair, not all old folks, but the ones carrying water for the powers that be at the polling station.)
 
However, young Germans are ritually reminded in high school every year of the liberation of Auschwitz, as in “Never Again“.  There will be nationwide rallies in Germany on December 5 protesting the reintroduction of the draft.  Those not attending or at least showing sympathy should read this eye-opening Reuters piece about 11 young Ukrainians.  They’re not dead, but none of them is still fighting.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 12:45 utc | 12

I haven’t seen anyone ask the obvious:   WHY would Russia do this?  A series of unrelated and ineffective “attacks” here and there…   Russia would have nothing at all to gain.

Posted by: Desert Dave | Dec 2 2025 12:48 utc | 13

The 5 stages of grief : denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.
Ukraine fiasco : Trump in stage 3. Eurotards in stage 2.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Dec 2 2025 12:50 utc | 14

The idea to ‘pre-empivly’ attack Russia comes from an Italian defense paper:

Posted by b at 11:43 utc |
 
B, sorry, you’re not right. It’s an old NATO Idea of the 1960′ when in Europa were the “Anti Pershing Demostrations” and Idea of neutron bombs. (Both not come because demonstratons).

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 12:50 utc | 15

It’s a bit of a joke really and shows how shameless modern European politicians are. 
 
That railway line definitely looks more like a metal fatigue fracture than explosion damage. Besides if you were trying to sabotage the line wouldn’t you blow it up with a train on it and do something a little a bit more destructive like burn the signal wiring ? A track gang would replace that broken rail in probably less than an hour.
 
As for the drones I remember quite a few years ago that Heathrow was shut down for quite some time due to unidentified drones loitering. The cause was never found  as far as I know, but that was before every hiccup in modern European life was an operation of Russian hybrid warfare.

Posted by: ZimZum | Dec 2 2025 12:51 utc | 16

And to think of it, the only REAL provocation that has happened in Europe is the destruction of the NordStream. Which, IIRC, they tried to blame on the Russians.
 
I also remember vaguely that the Ukrainians more or less openly told the world that they would provoke Europe with drones, claim they were Russian, and then sit down to see if the Europeans were dumb enough to take the bait.

Posted by: Avtonom | Dec 2 2025 12:59 utc | 17

We’ll reach peak Russophobia when they hire the guy from that show
not saying it’s ali… Russians .
 
but it’s Russians 

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 2 2025 12:59 utc | 18

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 12:50 utc | 15

None of that stuff is “new” per sé.  Their problem is just that the current generation doesn’t know how to work with the old plans because those who drew them up are dead, and the equipment is no longer made the way it used to.  Hence, old wine in new bottles (plastic, perhaps, quite brittle too, but 100% carbon neutral 😉 ).

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 13:02 utc | 19

Belgian police are conducting searches at the headquarters of the EU diplomatic service, – Euractiv
▪️The reason is the misuse of EU funds. ▪️Raids are also taking place at the College of Europe in Bruges and in private homes. ▪️Police seized documents and detained three people for questioning on suspicion of procurement fraud, corruption and criminal conflict of interest.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/104908

Posted by: belgian police raid eu offices! | Dec 2 2025 13:02 utc | 20

@20, @19 — speaking of “procurement fraud” and the thing the EU does second-best following Ukraine, namely corruption, new plans always justify hiring external consultants 😂

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 13:06 utc | 21

Pre emptive attack doesn’t necessarily mean cyber, or really quickly blaming Russia for everything.  It could well entail a targeted kinetic strike at an EW post in Kalinigrad for instance.   They would say it’s defensive and when Russia strikes back in a small calculated way then they can go apeshit.  And then presumably execute their war on Russia instead of responsibly leading their own countries.  Power is unlimited in wartime!
 

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 2 2025 13:08 utc | 22

@ belgian police raid eu offices! | Dec 2 2025 13:02 utc | 20
 
Belgian authorities investigating acts of corruption! I’m sorry, but my irony meter doesn’t go past 10.

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 2 2025 13:09 utc | 23

And to think of it, the only REAL provocation that has happened in Europe is the destruction of the NordStream. Which, IIRC, they tried to blame on the Russians. 
Posted by: Avtonom | Dec 2 2025 12:59 utc | 17
 
 
and that one was no simple provocation, it was a bona fide casus beli that warranted an article 5 under normal circumstances 
 
And that wouldn’t be the only one, some other pipelines were targeted by Ukraine/nato and not so aligned countries in the eu suffered
 
whats behind all this nonsense? My opinion is that Europe is trying to find something that RF would answer to, but that they could cry and yell that it was an unprovoked attack ™ 
 
if the us plainly tell them that even then they’re on their own… might stop this
 

Posted by: Newbie | Dec 2 2025 13:09 utc | 24

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 2 2025 13:09 utc | 23

Somebody with some power is desperate for a plausible off-ramp.  We all know they can play the corruption investigation theater by the push of a button or not.  Let’s just see if this escalates to the higher-ups or not.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 13:11 utc | 26

 

Former EU High Representative Mogherini Arrested
 
Former EU High Representative Mogherini Arrested The European Public Prosecutor’s Office conducted raids on Tuesday at the headquarters of the European External Action Service in Brussels and at the College of Europe in Bruges.
 
An official statement explained the action as part of an investigation into alleged fraud related to the EU’s junior diplomat training program.
 
The prosecutor’s office confirmed the arrest of three people, without releasing their names.
 
An AFP report indicated that former EU High Representative Federica Mogherini was among those arrested during the raids in Belgium.
 
More information to follow…

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:11 utc | 27

DW: John Helmer
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhdga8IiFg
 
“Russia is chewing its way west…”
 
Meanwhile, Ukraine’s western sponsors continue to deny the reality of impending Russian victory as reflected in their proposed ‘peace terms’. 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2025 13:13 utc | 28

The Duran
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML65WuA3mM0
 
“Let’s talk about some news…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Dec 2 2025 13:19 utc | 29

I’m sure Zelensky would be happy to sell his estate he bought in Montana on American tax payer money to fight the Russians.

Posted by: Fortuna | Dec 2 2025 13:20 utc | 30

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:11 utc | 27

Oh wow, somebody’s started a yuge raid just on the day Witkoff and Putin meet.  I wanna see Ursula and Kallas hand-cuffed, kneeling before the blank flag post in Strassburg which once flew the Flag of Russia.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 13:20 utc | 31

It’s no longer about Ukraine; that issue has ultimately been dealt with.
It’s now about Europe (without the UK).
Now that the ECB has rejected the plans for the 140 trillion in frozen Russian assets as unlawful, the EU is bankrupt. There is no more money for Ukraine, and all countries are deeply in debt (including the UK).
We are now witnessing a battle for survival between the EC Commission and governments. Unfortunately, there are no elections yet, so everything depends on how the media reacts; they determine everything.

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:21 utc | 32

It’s the USA simply manufacturing even more false flags on the way to switching over from the rapidly depleting Ukrainian cannon fodder to the more plentiful European type. 

Posted by: Subtropical | Dec 2 2025 13:24 utc | 33

It’s not yet over. Europa still has a great point to escalate and start war
Transnistria – the West’s alternative trump card for an attack on Russia
https://de.rt.com/meinung/263472-transnistrien-ersatztrumpfkarte-westens-fuer-angriff/
 
Once the peace agreement with Ukraine is signed and the weapons fall silent, the fate of Transnistria will lie in Brussels’ hands. And then neither Moldova nor Transnistria itself will be consulted. The confrontation will unfold along the line between Russia and Europe.
 
 

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:27 utc | 34

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:21 utc | 32

EU+UK media by far no longer are as trusted as before the plandemic and even before 9/11.  But your implication is correct: This just turned into an inter-governmental EU+UK war of self-preservation.  Let’s grab some popcorn 🍿 and watch how far they will go, especially how long Macron, Merz and Starmer will cling to their respective chairs.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 13:30 utc | 35

Several of the ‘drones’ above EU airports were reported as police helicopter and landing cargo plane lights in the night per local media, but never mind that. In one case some Germans were arrested allegedly for flying small drones.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 13:34 utc | 36

So much can happen in just one day.  Pokrovsk falls, and I guess the United States and Russia have an agreement, perhaps a prelude to many more to come including China, and this key agreement will be so grossly unfavorable to the EU+UK that tomorrow’s dominating EU+UK headline needs to be . . . another EU corruption scandal that can be dragged out until Christmas. 🍿🎉

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 13:34 utc | 37

Soon the orcs will be driven back to their Siberian holes by the NATO Paladins!

Posted by: Surferket | Dec 2 2025 13:39 utc | 38

Scott Ritter: Pokrovsk Was ‘Anchor’ of Ukraine’s Donbass Fortification Belt, Its Loss Is a Disaster
https://sputnikglobe.com/20251202/scott-ritter-pokrovsk-was-anchor-of-ukraines-donbass-fortification-belt-its-loss-is-a-disaster-1123213084.html
 

“The collapse of Pokrovsk (Krasnoarmeysk) has created a situation where Ukraine has lost some of its best brigades, some of its best men,” the former US Marine Corps intelligence officer and military analyst said.
 

These battle-hardened, NATO-trained units, which include the 25th Airborne Brigade and 38th Marine Brigade, are “irreplaceable,” according to Ritter.

 

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:55 utc | 39

Very interesting this raid on EEAS led by Kallas. 
There is most likely by now serious enough opposition against EC and Ukraine and other policies in general that they can’t be ignored. EU’s existence as an institution is under threat, so they have to throw some bones to alleviate the opposition anger. It’s doubtful any EC official will be prosecuted, but they will find some low-level official to throw to the wolves.
I think it also signals there are no more options for Ukraine funding. The existence of Kallas and VDL are based on keeping the Ukraina facade going, but its breaking down, they are in a dead end ally, with angry peasants with pitch forks on the other end.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 13:58 utc | 40

@1…….to date, Russia, regardless of how high the escalation goes does nothing to deter the west. They only have nukes and a bag of faux nuts,  if anyone should be concerned with retaliation it would be LOCC Ukies, they bear the brunt of all NATO inflicted Russian retaliation……
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 14:02 utc | 41

The Ukrainian Gambit (1997-, 2008-) sacrificing the Ukrainian pawns, was a completely irresistible temptation:
1) Russia’s enormous natural resources
2) the ultimate prize: encircling China, and
3) severing the economic ties between Germany and Russia: cheap Russian energy and German industry could become the embryo of a Euro-Asian economic zone: peace and trade from Tokyo to Lisbon: a dreadful nightmare for London and Washington.
And there was no risk involved because Vladimir of Moscow is a cousin of Vladimir of kyiv (call me Volodymyr; I assure you I spoke Ukrainian in private)
There was no risk involved in the Ukrainian Gambit because Vladimir of Moscow is a Zionist, so only the Russian and Ukrainian plebs would die.

Posted by: Valerio del Bierzo | Dec 2 2025 14:02 utc | 42

It’s also possible the raid on EEAS is initiated by Trump admin to punish EC for their insolence.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 14:08 utc | 43

Ho , the children are having a tamper tantrum ? Their house of cards is crumbling ? They already tried to double down on stupid so many times that they now looks like really stupid while confronted with the consequences ? 
 
Good , good … but what will happen next is the most interesting part. Crumble of the EUSSR or Bürgerbraü Putsch ? My bet on the second. It will fail miserably and the administration will take over, try to erase the politic and manage the crumbling … that will happen anyway for structural and systemic reasons.
I’m old enough to have see a lot of regimes imploding and I don’t see why this one will go differently.
The other interesting factor is the consequences it will have on the US 🙂 This won’t be funny and there is a high potential for something really dangerous starting.

Posted by: Savonarole | Dec 2 2025 14:13 utc | 44

“I think it also signals there are no more options for Ukraine funding. The existence of Kallas and VDL are based on keeping the Ukraina facade going, but its breaking down, they are in a dead end ally, with angry peasants with pitch forks on the other end.”
 
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 13:58 utc | 40
 
Or they divide and conquer:
 
https://x.com/Qldaah/status/1181155593211400192?lang=en

Posted by: canuk | Dec 2 2025 14:14 utc | 45

Mogherini, EU’s ‘high representative’ has been arrested. She was one of the most vocal Ukraine supporters and pushing a lot of funds over the long run.
This could mean Kallas, VDL or other EC members have no control or influence on where this is going. Will we see the house of cards crumble?

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 14:16 utc | 46

The fog is slowly lifting on those “Russian” drone attacks on German airports.
 
The army will get several billion Euros to build drone defence units, to protect our infrastructure. So will the federal police. And the airports themselves.
That’s a lot of money interested circles could raise in record time by simply throwing out some unproven claims about “Russia” attacking.
Unfortunately for those circles, the flow of easy money may soon come to and, if Europeans NATO fail to detail the peace talks (which seems likely).
The NATO and EU leadership upping the game by going all out could be a desperate attempt to keep the money flowing.
After all, the beauty of defence spending is that it’s all virtual. A hypothetical threat , countered by increase defence spending. ND the threat can be stopped (by NATO or EU) at any time by declaring victory: Russia has been sufficiently intimidated to stop threatening Europe.
Amazing times. For generals and arms dealers.
 
 

Posted by: Marvin | Dec 2 2025 14:19 utc | 47

Unfortunately, there are no elections yet, so everything depends on how the media reacts; they determine everything.
Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:21 utc | 32
The mainstream media will react as instructed!
As always !

Posted by: jpc | Dec 2 2025 14:22 utc | 48

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 14:16 utc | 46

Best thing can happen is that unelected Ursula and the whole of her Corruption Commission would be forced to resign.  But for that to happen the far left and the far right in the EU parliament would need to get their act together, and this is just where canuk’s Divide & Conquer comic kicks in.  But maybe there will be a surprise — by popular pressure of being fed up with Ukraine and Green Sh*t, and just wanting their ailing economies back to normal.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 14:23 utc | 49

Excellent b,
 
We are living in crazy times. 

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Dec 2 2025 14:24 utc | 50

Cornered rats – Europe is the corner. they put themselves in it. For their Naziofascist Owners. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 2 2025 14:26 utc | 51

Slowly, slowly … then all at once.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 14:28 utc | 52

Police raid EU External Action Service, College of Europe in sweeping fraud probe | EurActiv |

During the period under scrutiny, the EEAS was led by another Socialist former foreign minister, Spain’s Josep Borrell.

Minor infraction nothing to do with Ukraine imo Timely distraction for VDL gangsters (EPP)
Brussels Times
 

Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 14:30 utc | 53

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 14:23 utc
 
You believe the populist right won’t do everything the US and Israel tells them to do ?
 
There’s only one party ( it  doesn’t exist yet ) that’s a true hard left party that would stand up to the US and Israel ?

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Dec 2 2025 14:30 utc | 54

Posted by: Desert Dave | Dec 2 2025 12:48 utc | 13
 
######
 
Understanding the opponent, treating them like a rational actor, that’s not done.
 
Remember, Putin is dying of cancer and drinking the blood of Ukrainian children.
 
And, Maduro is running to Spain with his drug loot. Once in Madrid, he’s meeting with an Iranian contact to purchase some yellow cake uranium…
 
It’s like a bad TV show written by mentally retarded woke snowflakes that, sadly, appeals logically to 20 or so people at this bar.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 2 2025 14:30 utc | 55

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Dec 2 2025 14:30 utc | 54

The U.S. and Israel are not almighty.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 14:33 utc | 56

Mogherini has been very critical of the genocide…
 
Coincidence?
 
I don’t believe in coincidences.
 
Do you?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 2 2025 14:35 utc | 57

So there are threats of “pre-emptive strikes” in response to alleged “Russian attacks”. But how can you claim it to be pre-emptive against something you claim has already happened? If it has happened, your response is not pre-emptive. Using the term “pre-emptive” is admitting it didn’t happen, and then there is nothing to respond to.
These self-contradicting crazy thoughts are reactions to corruption scandals in Kiev and Brussels now merging.
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 14:38 utc | 58

Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 14:30 utc | 53


It has to do with Ukraine. Ukraine is the core policy, probably 90% of the thing EC spends time and money on. They literally have no other agenda excluding the green agenda which is destroying EU.
 
Trump may be co-operating with EU opposition also inside EU institutions. The raid is a symptom of AFU proxy army losing and no more money found, imo. 

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 14:40 utc | 59

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 14:38 utc | 58

These loonies have big-time trouble with logic, so that’s no real surprise.  And that makes them so dangerous, see #12.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 14:41 utc | 60

The U.S. and Israel are not almighty.
 
Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 14:33 utc | 56
 
########of
 
Don’t tell them that!
 
Or the Western chauvinist fan boys like Cloudy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 2 2025 14:43 utc | 61

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 2 2025 14:43 utc | 61

Thanks 🙂

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 14:45 utc | 62

Do not mix up Mogherini with Merkel …
EU trims partnership ambitions

The Ukraine crisis has, however, revealed deep differences within the bloc over how to deal with Russia.
EU foreign affairs head Federica Mogherini believes it has to find a modus vivendi with Moscow, while some member states such as Britain warn against showing any weakness, especially when it comes to easing sanctions against Russia.
Merkel also warned Russia it could not think about returning to the Group of Seven major industrialised nations as long as it flouted international law in Ukraine — symbolised by the annexation of Crimea.

The EEAS was somewhat independent from the EU Commission 
My view of Mogherini was quite positive 😄

Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 14:45 utc | 63

@unimperator
 
Don’t underestimate the influence of Friedrich Merz … having plenty of domestic struggles in Berlin with coalition partner SPD on budget and pensions.
 
Time for some retaliation on Socialists wherever they are hiding. 

Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 14:49 utc | 64

“And what, by the way, is Admiral Dragone planing to do if Russia hits back?”
 
Now Dragone is Italian. As a German with a knowledge of history, I have a hunch about this.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Dec 2 2025 14:49 utc | 65

So …

  • We have power struggle between factions in Washington DC
  • We have power struggle between factions in Brussels
  • We have power struggle between factions in Kiev

 

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 14:50 utc | 66

Zelensky: “War must not become a profitable business.”The head of the Kшуv regime called on “allies” to create conditions in which Russia “will not feel anything that it could perceive as a reward for this war.”According to him, war must not become a profitable business, lest others want to repeat similar steps.
 
Telegram: View @Novichok_Rossiya_2

Posted by: Fredrick | Dec 2 2025 14:52 utc | 67

Now Dragone is Italian. As a German with a knowledge of history, I have a hunch about this.
 
Posted by: BlindSpot | Dec 2 2025 14:49 utc | 65
 
_____
 
He’ll switch sides and claim the rest of Tyrol?…
 
(sorry, couldn’t resist)

Posted by: malenkov | Dec 2 2025 14:58 utc | 68

Norwegian@66…….any power struggles between factions at Whitehall? The elephant in the SMO.
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 14:58 utc | 69

Mogherini, EU’s ‘high representative’ 
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 14:16 utc | 46
it the FORMER high represetative

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 15:01 utc | 70

The mainstream media will react as instructed!
Posted by: jpc | Dec 2 2025 14:22 utc | 48
 
But who is that now?

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 15:02 utc | 71

@sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 14:58 utc | 69
 
You are welcome to add to the list. I suppose Berlin might be a candidate as well. 

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 15:03 utc | 72

They would not announce preemptive strikes if they were not already doing it. This is just public acknowledgement.  
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 15:04 utc | 73

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 15:03 utc | 72

Independent Ukraine has been a pet project of Berlin and Vienna since WW1.  Crimea one of the Brits and the French since the 19th century, even after 1815.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 15:04 utc | 73

Still they wouldn’t qualify as “pre-emptive”, as Norwegian explained above 😜 

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 15:10 utc | 74

They would not announce preemptive strikes if they were not already doing it. This is just public acknowledgement.  
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 15:04 utc | 73
 
Nonsense. Just musclemen flexing before a wrestling match for lack of anything else to boost their egos. You shouldn’t overestimate such statements from third-rate players; the mainstream media already does that to get another headline.

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 15:10 utc | 75

Former European Commission Vice-President Federica Mogherini arrested in Belgian investigation into EU Funds fraud

Authorities are scrutinizing whether confidential tender information was improperly accessed, potentially compromising the fairness of the bidding process for a €654,000 EU funding call awarded to the College of Europe.
 
Alongside Mogherini, two other suspects have been taken into custody: the rector of the College of Europe, a manager, and the Italian diplomat Stefano Sannino, former Secretary-General of the EEAS from 2021 to 2025. The investigation focuses on alleged wrongdoing during the period 2021-2022, including fraud in the awarding of public contracts, corruption, conflicts of interest, and breaches of professional confidentiality.
 
The case centers on a public tender related to the financing of the new European Diplomatic Academy in Bruges.

A nothing burger … distraction.
Is Brussels corrupt? Of course any institution w/o transparency and too much authority … EP? Goes along where possible 😡 reap the profits. Costly … cut ✂️ the budgets.

Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 15:11 utc | 76

The EEAS was somewhat independent from the EU Commission My view of Mogherini was quite positive
Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 14:45 utc | 63
 
Maybe that is why she was thrown under the bus?
Just a thought.

Posted by: mk | Dec 2 2025 15:16 utc | 77

come on guys we can win this all we need is beliefs 
come on believe
globohomo can take on all comers
we can beat all them new hitlers off chatham house brookings the heritage the atlantic council the cfr rockerfella rottenshields wills it.
con scription fight fight fight for londonistan tel aviver ben give out givir.
the goyim must fight so the talking points of the first zionist congress at bern can be full filled.
 
fight for baal and moloch so the crops will not fail

Posted by: normal wisdom | Dec 2 2025 15:22 utc | 78

If the world valued honesty, Politico would be expunged.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Dec 2 2025 15:22 utc | 79

The real Jeffrey Sachs 💪🏽
 
EU’s SAFE Plan EXPOSED: Is Brussels Now a Co-Belligerent? !! | Prof. Jeffrey Sachs – 2 hrs ago |

This analysis by Jeffrey Sachs The EU’s new SAFE plan—signed by 15 states and worth billions of euros—quietly transforms Ukraine from a weapons recipient into a European defense contractor state. This explosive shift embeds EU-owned factories, supply chains, and testing sites directly inside a live battlefield. What happens when Russia strikes these facilities? Who carries the legal, political, and military responsibility for civilian casualties and destroyed European assets? And could a single missile push Europe into a war it never formally joined?
 
In this video, we break down the geopolitical gamble behind SAFE, Russia’s likely retaliation strategy, and the catastrophic escalation pathways Brussels refuses to acknowledge.

Posted by: Oui | Dec 2 2025 15:27 utc | 80

IMO they are using the same playbook as Mindich against Zelensky, closing walls in on Kallas. Remember Rubio refused to meet her and Trump has been fighting verbally more than one time with Kallas.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 15:29 utc | 81

As the Ukraine project crumbles, US and Euro/NATO desperation strategy keeps looking more and more like Israeli strategy. Pre-emptive, protective strikes? Just copy and past the Israeli justification for attacking Iran: “Israel’s strike was a lawful act of anticipatory self-defense in response to an imminent existential threat—a response consistent with both customary international law and the moral obligation to protect innocent life.” …then head to the bunkers. 

Posted by: PavewayIV | Dec 2 2025 15:38 utc | 82

EU+UK media by far no longer are as trusted as before…
Already in the early 1700s (recall, news media largely rose with the birth of political parties after the so-called Glorious Revolution) they were mostly propaganda mouths.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Dec 2 2025 15:38 utc | 83

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Dec 2 2025 15:22 utc | 79
 
######
 
The kicker is that the world does also value deception.
 
Duality is necessary. How else to define honesty without knowing deceit?
 
Light/dark.
 
Love/hate.
 
Peace/war.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Dec 2 2025 15:40 utc | 84

Once the peace agreement with Ukraine is signed and the weapons fall silent, the fate of Transnistria will lie in Brussels’ hands. And then neither Moldova nor Transnistria itself will be consulted. The confrontation will unfold along the line between Russia and Europe.
Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 13:27 utc | 34
 
This is why the loss of Odessa and who within the Blob will be responsible for that motivates all of the moves being taken right now. Transnistria should be part of the trans steppe trade corridor that delivers oil and gas to Hungary and the former Austro Hungarian Empire – Romania and Moldova are western captives (suzerains) right now while clandestine operations maintain informational superiority. With gas and oil passing them by, maybe not forever … 

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 2 2025 15:41 utc | 85

Ukrainian MP Artem Dmytruk claims that, according to his information, Zelensky has been ordered to resign shortly. However, Dmytruk did not specify who gave this order to the head of the Kiev regime. Furthermore, the Ukrainian MP reasonably assumes that Zelensky will stall and sabotage the execution of this order by any means necessary.
Dmitruk wrote on his Telegram channel:
This is a person who stalls, tells all sorts of stories, and makes excuses. He will do anything to delay the inevitable.
A Ukrainian MP believes, and the MP noted, that fulfilling this request could take several weeks to several months. Previously, one of the Kiev regime’s top political strategists announced Zelensky’s imminent resignation, stating that he would most likely leave his post on New Year’s Eve. In July, American journalist Seymour Hersh, citing US government sources, claimed that a regime change was underway in Ukraine and that Zelensky would be replaced by the former Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Valeriy Zaluzhny.
It’s worth noting that the possible replacement of Zelensky by Zaluzhny, who has suddenly arrived in Kiev, or by anyone else, will have no impact on Ukraine’s openly anti-Russian stance or the “battery” role assigned to the former Ukrainian SSR by the Kiev regime’s Western overseers.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/149422
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 15:45 utc | 86

Zelensky to Resign by End of Week – Inside. $100 Billion Stolen in Ukr – Corruption on Steroids

Levan Gudadze opinion

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3l5jBptOgU

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 15:47 utc | 87

Putin, translated (today?) via DD/AussieCossack via Zarubinreporter itvw:

“If Europe suddenly starts a war with us, it seems to me that very quickly— This is not Ukraine.  With Ukraine, we act there in a surgical way, carefully, so that is clear.  This is not a war in the direct modern sense of the word.  If Europe suddenly wants to start a war with us, and starts it, then a situation may quickly arise in which we will have no one to negotiate with.”

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 15:52 utc | 88

Norwegian@72……. excellent idea, I’ll send the MOD some maps…….
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 15:53 utc | 89

Why are EUROweenie leaders so stupid?  This idea is to ‘react’ to non-existent provocations ‘pre-emptively’.  It’s impossible to ‘react’ to something that isn’t happening and you can’t ‘pre-emptively’ ‘react’.  
This is a great example of how deceit traps the deceiver.  Modern EURO leadership is all about deceit.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Dec 2 2025 15:54 utc | 90

These are dangerous people in charge of Europe – they put a Neo-Nazi dictatorship ahead of their own citizens – they send billions in aid and weapons to prop up this vile regime – and all the while the regime is syphoning off billions of Euros/Dollars for the few to get very rich – whilst EU citizens and peaceful minded Ukrainians citizens (I’m sure they exist) suffer greatly in the reduction of public services and price rises on everything from energy to food.
 
The likes of Kallas and von der Leyen – were not elected to push this evil agenda -if EU citizens don’t act soon by physically removing these monsters from office, Europe will once again be the battlefield,  in a war with Russia, it won’t be a pushover as Russia will have the hardware backing of China and Iran, and the extra manpower on the battlefield supplied by North Korea – and the Yanks will just standby and watch, then mop up what’s left of Europe and maybe even impose their will on a weakened Russia, EU citizens won’t be so lucky they will be bombed, is this inevitable – the answer is no, but with Nato puppets – and EU bigwigs,  pushing this mad idea – (even if it is only for more money) its a possibility that it could come to a head in this fashion.
 
Fighting talk may just be propaganda for some – but for others its a call to arms.
 
World War One was in effect – caused by the fallout of Queen Victoria’s offspring.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Dec 2 2025 15:54 utc | 91

Odessa defenders, this one’s for you (DD):

🇷🇺⚔🇺🇦 Putin warned that Russia could cut Ukraine off from the sea entirely if Kiev continues its pirate-style attacks on Russian vessels.

Posted by: Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 15:58 utc | 92

@74
@75
 
……give some examples of preemptive…..
 
I’d throw out Moskova, the fleeing fleet, they are confined to a small area and how about that Under the Table radar station in the Don, Rostov on the Donald, bet he’s thinking of it, he did rename the Gulf. I think they call it the Gulf of Donald America now.
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 2 2025 16:00 utc | 93

Why are EUROweenie leaders so stupid?
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Dec 2 2025 15:54 utc | 90
 
They are not stupid, but fanatically obsessed with the idea of perpetual war, which they believe they will ultimately win at some point.Fanaticism now overshadows everything, including financial considerations.
All they do and say must be viewed in this light.

Posted by: smartfox | Dec 2 2025 16:03 utc | 94

@ Nervous German | Dec 2 2025 15:58 utc | 92
 
I was about to post that one, but you beat me to it. He also says

🇷🇺 🇷🇺 Putin:
‼️Russia will expand strikes on Ukrainian ports and ships entering them in response to attacks on tankers in the Black Sea.
Putin called attacks on tankers in the Black Sea piracy.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/171491
 
I think the fate of Odessa has been decided.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 2 2025 16:03 utc | 95

$100 Billion Stolen in Ukr – Corruption on Steroids
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 15:47 utc | 87
 
The smartest among the morons – take all you can while the the stupidest people on earth believe their lies that glory arrives in war. A couple of pretty old themes that should surprise nobody, but will.  
***
If in some smothering dreams, you too could paceBehind the wagon that we flung him in,And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin,If you could hear, at every jolt, the bloodCome gargling from the froth-corrupted lungsBitter as the cudOf vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,–My friend, you would not tell with such high zestTo children ardent for some desperate glory,The old Lie: Dulce et decorum estPro patria mori.

Posted by: frithguild | Dec 2 2025 16:03 utc | 96

Putin: If Europe starts a war with Russia, soon there will be “no one left to negotiate with.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-threatens-ready-war-against-europe-if-attacks-russian-tankers-energy-continue

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Dec 2 2025 16:04 utc | 97

VZ drug boats, Hamas rapists, Qaddafi’s torture-porn dungeons, Wigger genocide, Assad gassing Syrians, WMDs here and there (but Nazi Israel’s are fine)…Somalis/Venezuelans taking over the US, Pearl Harbor…the USS Maine…the bison…the whales…
 
When the state says you are guilty, you are guilty. and the law doesn’t matter.
 
it’s the punishment that matters.
 
The answer to the plague is to spread the plague. The only response the guilty can ever have is to spread the disease. The guilty must be KILLED. and yes, I mean the Western ruling class, from bottom to top, starting with the clown in the oval office.

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 2 2025 16:05 utc | 98

None of the persons who want to enact the neoconservative preemptive war doctrine will experience the retaliation such an action would take, and most would profit from it. Admirals in the Italian Navy could not defeat Somali pirates, and are the least feared of Russia’s antagonists. The recent use of sea drones to attack Russian ships off Turkiye’s coast could be considered part of this European preemptive war NATO pigs want to start.  

Posted by: Keme | Dec 2 2025 16:06 utc | 99

Posted by: duck n cover | Dec 2 2025 16:05 utc | 98

 
Talking about poison gas, EU just claimed Georgia is using poison gas against protesters.
 
They should raid, loot and turn every EU affiliated embassy and NGO upside down in Georgia.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 2 2025 16:06 utc | 100

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