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November 9, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-261
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: Louis | Nov 9 2025 21:36 utc | 96 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 9 2025 22:05 utc | 101 Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 9 2025 20:44 utc | 79 Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 22:22 utc | 103 89: Butter(Ghee) Powered Generators are the Solution!! Posted by: Nobody | Nov 9 2025 22:32 utc | 104
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2025 19:08 utc | 58 Posted by: jared | Nov 9 2025 22:36 utc | 105 Attempts by Ukrainian soldiers to break out of the encirclement in Dimitrov on foot are recorded. Posted by: Naive | Nov 9 2025 22:46 utc | 106 And soon Seversk will be inside a cauldron. Posted by: Naive | Nov 9 2025 22:49 utc | 107 Message to Louis Ducon: Posted by: Naive | Nov 9 2025 22:54 utc | 108 Sorry for trolling a troll. Could not resist. Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 23:00 utc | 110
———- Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Nov 9 2025 23:20 utc | 111 Posted by: Naive | Nov 9 2025 22:55 utc | 109 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 9 2025 23:22 utc | 112 @ Naive | Nov 9 2025 22:55 utc | 109 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 9 2025 23:26 utc | 113 Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 21:21 utc | 92 Anyway … Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 9 2025 23:29 utc | 114 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 9 2025 23:26 utc | 113 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 23:30 utc | 115 Vancouver Island was a great place until too many decided to retire there. Fortunately there will be plenty of space in Crimea and Odessa soon, for all of you. Posted by: kupkee | Nov 9 2025 23:52 utc | 116 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 9 2025 23:26 utc | 113 Posted by: Naive | Nov 10 2025 0:10 utc | 117 No problem. How did you identify this person? Posted by: Naive | Nov 10 2025 0:12 utc | 118 Posted by: Naive | Nov 10 2025 0:12 utc | 118 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 10 2025 0:26 utc | 119 @ Naive | Nov 10 2025 0:12 utc | 118 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 10 2025 0:55 utc | 120 Well, when you think about it, we’re all “du con”…so how about “connard”? Posted by: Naive | Nov 10 2025 1:01 utc | 121 Here’s how we know Schumer’s Shutdown has to end this week: Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 10 2025 2:13 utc | 122 RE: Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 21:21 utc | 92 Posted by: FollowsTheWay | Nov 10 2025 2:15 utc | 123 https://greatergood.org/ukraine-crisis-feed-pets-in-need?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=disaster-ukraine&utm_term=&utm_campaign=disaster-ukraine_Delve_GGC_Conversion_Google_PetUkraine_Pet_PMax_0_US&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&hsa_acc=6245854046&hsa_cam=21258544288&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=&hsa_tgt=&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=2&gad_campaignid=21254701670&gclid=CjwKCAiAlMHIBhAcEiwAZhZBUsg1Hv1a-gfIK1DP2ycuVJRn3sN5eiGmHwlpa9Q9tnYv-_Xd0eNl4hoCONUQAvD_BwE Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 10 2025 2:43 utc | 124 @ sean the leprechaun | Nov 9 2025 20:03 utc | 68 Posted by: james | Nov 10 2025 3:09 utc | 125 I believe that many, if not all most, of commenters on this and many other sites are Jews/Masons whose job is to confuse and wear down and exhaust the rest of us just the way Albert Pike and Rothschilds wanted so that we would then worship their master Lucifer. I believe this includes the vast majority of national rulers including Putin. Guess what none of you wilL be able to do it. The Eternal Father has other plans. Posted by: Boxwoodtree | Nov 10 2025 3:12 utc | 126
Posted by: drinky crow | Nov 10 2025 3:26 utc | 127 Posted by: Jason | Nov 9 2025 21:01 utc | 85 Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 10 2025 4:31 utc | 128 Ukraine update + Understanding the US proxy war in Ukraine: First Principles vs. Fantasy Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 10 2025 4:50 utc | 129 Electric War… Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 5:36 utc | 130 The ‘best anti-aircraft defense in the world’ has once again done its job: Belgorod and Taganrog were ‘switched off’ by precise UKR/NATO strikes. Posted by: Louis | Nov 10 2025 7:05 utc | 131 FABs being dropped into AFU accumulations in Myrnograd, on buildings they are hiding.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 7:09 utc | 132 Everything is hard for Zelensky because of the war – he is just there to help (but could leave at moments notice).
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1987770358439485512 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 7:20 utc | 133 Norway’s pension fund promises to guarantee EU 140 billion reparation loan to Ukraine.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 7:30 utc | 134 Merz: “We will have the largest army in Europe”….. Posted by: NorwegianPawn | Nov 10 2025 7:37 utc | 135 Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 10 2025 4:31 utc | 129 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 10 2025 7:44 utc | 136 Posted by: NorwegianPawn | Nov 10 2025 7:37 utc | 136
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 8:00 utc | 137 back on the secret biological labs operating along the Ukraine side of the Russian border.. and relationships involving the “GET RUSSIA CROWDS” Posted by: snake | Nov 10 2025 8:47 utc | 138
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 10 2025 8:51 utc | 139 As usual I don’t remember where I read this and apologies for that, but I did read somewhere that Russia vrry clearly stated that at the moment Ukr stops attacking Russian energy, Russia will stop attacking Ukr energy. So very simple. Posted by: Avtonom | Nov 10 2025 8:53 utc | 140 SOLDIERS OF THE GROUP OF FORCES “EAST” LIBERATED TWO SETTLEMENTSUnits of the group of forces “East”, advancing on a wide front, hoisted the flags of the Russian Federation in two settlements at once:– Soldiers of the 394th Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment – in the village of Sladkoye (Zaporozhye region);– Soldiers of the 114th Motorized Rifle Regiment – in the village of Novoye (Zaporizhzhia region);As a result of the wedge in the depth of the enemy’s defenses in several areas, the Far Eastern Warriors took control of a total of more than 25 square kilometers of territory. In the battles for two settlements, the enemy lost over two companies of manpower, as well as armored and automotive equipment.In 4 days, the Far Eastern Warriors have already liberated 5 settlements. Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 10 2025 8:55 utc | 141 Everything is hard for Zelensky because of the war – he is just there to help (but could leave at moments notice).
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 7:20 utc | 134 Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 10 2025 8:59 utc | 142
Posted by: Tel | Nov 10 2025 9:02 utc | 143 International investors will naturally be reluctant to loan […] because the legal owner of the collateral will not sign the loan contract. Posted by: too scents | Nov 10 2025 9:09 utc | 144
Posted by: Tel | Nov 10 2025 9:10 utc | 145 “It seems that many do not understand that neither Russia nor China have Imperial aims. Posted by: Asian Frog | Nov 10 2025 9:38 utc | 146 sean the leprechaun@55 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Nov 10 2025 9:54 utc | 147 Looks like AFU offensive around Shakhove-Dobropilya completely stalled. RUAF is now even attacking Shakhove from the east, which could force AFU to abandon their attempts to attack Rodynske from the north. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 10:16 utc | 148
No need for Tomahawks, both cities were reportedly FLAMINGOed Posted by: Louis | Nov 10 2025 10:25 utc | 149 sean the leprechaun@71 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Nov 10 2025 10:35 utc | 150
Sure, that’s why it’s no problem for euro leaders to get investors to package a 100+ billions loan to Ukraine, that’s why there is no discussion about using Russian frozen assets as collateral, …., wait! Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 10 2025 11:14 utc | 151 Clash of Hemispheres Belgium has really good jokes : “We won’t let you (404) get Russian money frozen in our coffers … but we named a comedian as Defense minister and he just proposed to raze Moscow, you Happy ? (We’re talking about a country that realized their country wasn’t big enough to fly with F35 … after buying F35… and antagonizing the French… I’m just waiting for the Swiss version of the joke now :p) Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 10 2025 11:41 utc | 153 Mercouris says Pokrovsk is being held onto by Zelensky for political reasons. I can understand that line of thinking to an extent. Posted by: Night Tripper | Nov 10 2025 12:05 utc | 154 Posted by: Night Tripper | Nov 10 2025 12:05 utc | 155 The key issue regarding Pokrovsk/Myrnograd is the fact that there are thousands of AFU troops trapped within the ruins of Myrnograd. There is no ‘mass assault’, rather they try to handle it by persuading surrender (partially succeeding) and on the other hand by bombing. The largest FAB-3000s are used in Myrnograd, which will make short work of potential strongholds. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 12:19 utc | 155 The latest estimates claim 700-2,000 Ukraine troops left in the Pokrovsk/Myrnograd cauldron. Posted by: Fredrick | Nov 10 2025 12:32 utc | 156 Posted by: snake | Nov 9 2025 21:46 utc | 99 Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 12:47 utc | 157 “The other issue is keeping AFU at bay around Rodynske, Dobropilla and Shakhove to keep them from opening the cauldron. This seems to so far be working.” Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 10 2025 12:51 utc | 158 “International investors will naturally be reluctant to loan […] because the legal owner of the collateral will not sign the loan contract.” Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 12:52 utc | 159 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 7:30 utc | 135 Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Nov 10 2025 12:58 utc | 160
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 10 2025 13:26 utc | 161 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 7:30 utc | 135“Norway’s pension fund promises to guarantee EU 140 billion reparation loan to Ukraine. I guess the scheme for stealing Russian assets wasn’t so bullet proof after all, if it needs tax payer guarantees.” Posted by: Fredrick | Nov 10 2025 13:30 utc | 162 Zelensky’s “wallet” Mindich, fled Ukraine just hours before a raid by NABU and SAP.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 13:50 utc | 163 james@126…….it was a delightful trip …… especially finding something I didn’t know existed……..Fireweed Honey. The Fireweed is the first plant to appear after a forest fire has occured…….and the honey from those plants is almost as clear as water…….was tempted to drink it like water……..pure food from the highest source……and oh so good……. unfortunately I now judge all honey against its standards……. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 10 2025 13:55 utc | 164 In April 2023, Ukraine’s anti-corruption bureau (NABU) put several suspects in the Odessa Port Plant case on a wanted list. One of them, Oleksandr Gorbunenko, fled to the U.S. just days before the operation began, where he received refugee protection. After NABU’s appeal in April 2025, U.S. authorities detained him while trying to fly to Dubai. The FBI later released him under protection, suggesting he agreed to cooperate — and during questioning, Mindich’s name reportedly came up. Posted by: Fredrick | Nov 10 2025 14:07 utc | 165 Posted by: Fredrick | Nov 10 2025 14:07 utc | 165 Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 10 2025 14:14 utc | 166 Sounds to me like Russia is still negotiating…with itself. The other thing that bugged me in that report, if true, is that Russia still cares what the media mockingbirds of the western world reports vis-à-vis Russia’s conduct in this war. I mean WTF. I’m not a big fan of whataboutism but, it’s hard to not bring up Gaza in that context. Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 10 2025 14:17 utc | 167 @165 Posted by: paddy | Nov 10 2025 14:41 utc | 168 At the start of this interview Sleboda puts forward the explanation for Lavrov’s absence at the recent Security Council meeting. Fits with Mercouris’ view on the same lines. Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 10 2025 14:52 utc | 169 Re: Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 10 2025 14:17 utc | 167
Posted by: Julian | Nov 10 2025 14:53 utc | 170 Re: Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 10 2025 14:52 utc | 169
Posted by: Julian | Nov 10 2025 14:56 utc | 171 Wow…. Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 10 2025 15:02 utc | 172 @170 Julian Posted by: Woke American | Nov 10 2025 15:12 utc | 173 According to news platform Strana, Selensky’s moneybag Minditsch was spied upon by the National Anti-Corruption Office of Ukraine (NABU). NABU claims to have recorded over 1000 hours of phone calls hinting at massive corruption. Minditsch supposedly has left Ukraine before he could get caught. Releasing this would cause a political scandal in Ukraine. Posted by: V for Vendetta | Nov 10 2025 15:35 utc | 174 Posted by: Julian | Nov 10 2025 14:56 utc | 171 Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 10 2025 15:39 utc | 175 Earlier in this thread, a commenter conjectured that the Waffen SS of Galicia are starting to send hard core SS members to die as cannon fodder and that this will weaken their grip on power. Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 10 2025 15:45 utc | 176 Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 10 2025 15:45 utc | 176 Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 10 2025 15:52 utc | 177 Russian Army Captures Hnativka After Neutralizing 200 Ukrainian Troops In Pokrovsk (Videos)South Front Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 10 2025 15:53 utc | 178 Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 10 2025 15:45 utc | 176 Earlier, during Ukraine’s Kursk offensive and later in Kupyansk, it was revealed that the Azov units have also resorted to filling their ranks with street abductees as their ranks also dwindled. It’s possible they are not the ‘worst’ but somewhat better quality people but regardless. As such you may be correct that they are not the actual hardcore nazis who are fighting now, but they most likely went through compact nazi-affiliated indoctrination and training. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 15:54 utc | 179 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 9 2025 20:03 utc | 69 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 10 2025 15:55 utc | 180 Jolie like Sean Penn is a US deep state asset – as is George Clooney and his lawyer wife, used to give the Yanks the face of respectability – the Neo-Nazi’s are so desperate for bodies that – they tried to pressgang this guy into their Neo-Nazi fighting force. “Hollywood star Angelina Jolie’s personal driver during her recent visit to Ukraine has revealed being subjected to Kiev’s relentless mobilization drive.Dmitry Pishikov said, while driving Jolie around during the trip, he was detained at a military checkpoint and forcibly drafted into the Ukrainian army, despite having no intention of joining the forces, Russia Today reported on Sunday, citing the individual.According to Pishikov, Ukrainian draft officers stopped Jolie’s convoy without reason, deceived him under the pretext of “clarifying details,” and took him to a local enlistment center.There, the person added, he was effectively trapped and pressed into service.Denouncing being misled and detained under false pretenses, Pishikov said the officials promised a brief procedure before “lying” about his release.Jolie reportedly visited the center to inquire about the situation, but ultimately continued her trip, leaving the driver behind as Ukrainian officers processed his conscription.As of Friday, Pishikov confirmed he had been transferred to a military training facility and would be compelled to “undergo training and serve in the army.”The reported episode echoed various accounts of Ukraine’s forcible efforts at sustaining its undermanned military amid a 2022-present conflict with Russia.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:08 utc | 181 Interesting stuff. “Ukrainian anti-graft investigators have conducted multiple raids connected to Timur Mindich, a long-time associate of Vladimir Zelensky, according to opposition lawmaker Yaroslav Zhelezhnyak and local news outlets.The searches, carried out by the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) on Monday, reportedly targeted properties owned by Mindich, as well as Justice Minister German Galushchenko – a former energy minister described by Ukrainian media as Mindich’s insider in the government – and also state-run nuclear operator Energoatom, Zhelezhnyak said on Monday.NABU confirmed taking action against Energoatom, stating that it was investigating a “high-level criminal organization” operating within Ukraine’s energy sector. The agency said the case stems from over 1,000 hours of surveillance and 15 months of investigative work but declined to name any suspects.The agency also released several images showing large quantities of cash, including a stack of 100-dollar bills packaged in plastic wrap, some of which had serial numbers and were marked “ATLANTA” and “KAN CITY.” Mindich, a businessman and former entertainment industry figure, is known for his close personal and professional ties to Zelensky. The latter reportedly celebrated his birthday at Mindich’s apartment in 2021. Mindich’s address was reportedly under NABU surveillance for several months this year, with the Ukrainian leader allegedly having been recorded.The existence of the recordings dubbed the “Mindich tapes” was made public shortly before Zelensky attempted to curtail NABU’s independence, triggering a pushback from Western governments.Last week, Ukrainskaya Pravda published a detailed report on Mindich’s alleged growing influence during Zelensky’s tenure. The outlet described him as a de facto oligarch whose business empire now spans both the defense and energy sectors.The report also claimed that Mindich is under investigation for money-laundering by the US FBI, reportedly in cooperation with NABU. Mindich’s alleged corporate interests include Fire Point, a company that transitioned from a film location scouting agency into one of Ukraine’s largest drone manufacturers, as well as the energy industry, including nuclear power generation.Fire Point has previously been accused of securing inflated, no-bid government contracts, though it denies wrongdoing or having ties with Mindich.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:09 utc | 182 Another one added to the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi kill list – lately Woody Allen – and a group of kids some young as three-years old, were also added to the hit list. “Russian figure skating star Petr Gumennik has been added to the ‘kill list’ run by Ukraine’s state-backed Mirotvorets website, which publishes the personal details of individuals it labels as ‘enemies’ of the state.According to a November 9 entry, Gumennik is accused of “war propaganda” and “attacks on Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” and deemed “complicit” in Russia’s alleged “crimes” against the country.The entry featured Gumennik’s photos alongside other Russian public figures previously listed by Mirotvorets and included a mention of his father, Oleg Gumennik, a priest of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC). Under the current Kiev regime, the Ukrainian church affiliated with the ROC has faced raids, arrests, and bans over alleged ties to the Kremlin.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:09 utc | 183 Germany, being completely subserviant to it’s US masters, continues in it’s efforts to normalize the Ukraine-blew-up-Nordstrom narrative: Posted by: Hamburger | Nov 10 2025 16:21 utc | 184 Posted by: Woke American | Nov 10 2025 15:12 utc | 174 Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 10 2025 16:35 utc | 185 After reading Jams O’Donnell 181 call for the death of a fellow commenter because he doesn’t agree with the latter on all matters great and small; I think it’s fair to assume that J-O has the morals of Nile crocodile hunting a child sent to fetch water. Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 10 2025 16:40 utc | 186 Posted by: Julian | Nov 10 2025 14:56 utc | 171 Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 10 2025 16:45 utc | 187 Republicofscotland 182,I read about this earlier this week, an ironic tale, an actress, a tool of intel, schleps off on a PR mission for Langley and winds up getting an in-country-intel asset sent to the “Russian Front”. I suspect more than meets the eye, perhaps MI-6/Mossad is protecting their turf? From MI-6/Mossad’s POV, all US intel should be filtered through them, it resents Langley having assets in what is really an English operation. Uncle-Sam is just there to pay the bills while being kept under the delusion that it’s their show. Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 10 2025 17:29 utc | 188 Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 10 2025 17:29 utc | 189 Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 17:31 utc | 189 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:08 utc | 182 Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 17:37 utc | 190 “Why would a group who always put themselves before all others suddenly decide to strip itself of it’s foot soldiers who help it retain power? No, emphatically NO, when the Waffen SS of Galicia are truly forced into combat they will do what all ardent Nazis do in such circumstances, retreat or surrender. As long as the war continues you can rest assured that the Waffen SS of Galicia are safely in the rear…” Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 17:39 utc | 191 The way I read the Maidanpress it looks like they’re only dreaming of that Norwegian fund’s abundance of money. It doesn’t look like anyone in Norway has actually promised them anything. (They would be mad to do so. But then, western politicians are typically mad nowadays so nothing is granted.) Posted by: Avtonom | Nov 10 2025 17:48 utc | 192 Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 10 2025 16:40 utc | 187 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 10 2025 17:51 utc | 193 Elsewhere, and much more interestingly: Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 10 2025 17:56 utc | 194 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 10 2025 7:30 utc | 135“Norway’s pension fund promises to guarantee EU 140 billion reparation loan to Ukraine. I guess the scheme for stealing Russian assets wasn’t so bullet proof after all, if it needs tax payer guarantees.” That’s 21,000 ~ Euros per every Norwegian man, woman, and child. Posted by: arby | Nov 10 2025 17:59 utc | 195 @186 Savonarole Posted by: Woke American | Nov 10 2025 18:00 utc | 196 @ Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 10 2025 14:52 utc | 170 Posted by: jared | Nov 10 2025 18:01 utc | 197 So yes, by the logic of the Russian strategic approach from ’22 on this war could plod on for years. But the fact that collapse isn’t predictable, even the fact that it does still seem unlikely, doesn’t mean it’s impossible. The Russians aren’t like us. They don’t just have “The Plan” and no alternative. They plan for a variety of possible contingencies and will have collapse, however improbable, as a contingency to be dealt with if it occurs. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 10 2025 18:31 utc | 198 From New Resistance some kind of assessment what is the mojo Serbia and Ukraine??? Posted by: Jo | Nov 10 2025 18:46 utc | 199 Former Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny wrote an article for the New York Post. He calls not to pressure Ukraine and to prepare for very long negotiations with Russia:‘Calls for Ukraine and Russia to focus not on stopping hostilities, but immediately on reaching a peace agreement are premature. A full-fledged peace agreement may require months, if not years, of complex negotiations. It is hard to say whether those who try to push us towards certain decisions understand this’.The UK and EU have put together an interesting rouse, on the surface a ceasefire sound good but the intent is to never sign a peace deal and for Russia to lose is entire leverage. The general public just hear’s the word ceasefire and thinks of it as positive, but they don’t understand the real scheme behind it.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Nov 10 2025 18:56 utc | 200 |
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