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November 6, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-258
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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I just can’t see US troops getting caught up in mountains and jungles etc as everyone predicts. When all they care about in Iran and Venezuela is the oil fields. They don’t need to go any further like they did in Syria. Take and hold the oil fields would probably be the mission if they attack? Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Nov 7 2025 13:32 utc | 101 reply to 99 Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 7 2025 13:34 utc | 102
Good good. So the report about Seljenski was just the censor sleeping. Everything back to normal, thank god. Posted by: Ali | Nov 7 2025 13:47 utc | 103 @Altai | Nov 6 2025 17:30 utc | 12
The goal was to change Swedish foreign policy. It was a UK submarine doing the “haunting”. Ola Tunander has details of the psyop on his substack Posted by: cirsium | Nov 7 2025 13:52 utc | 104 I can’t believe the stupid kids are still pushing the “Russia fell into a trap” bullsh-t. NATO has lost credibility all over the world, as has the US and UK. In addition, the UK and EU economies are a wreck and “Ukraine” will never recover demographically or economically. NATO has been exposed as the paper tiger it has been for at least a decade and all NATO countries have lost HUGE amounts of equipment. It’s clear defeat. However, stupid kids being stupid kids won’t stop lying and desperately trying to turn the worst policy disaster since the US invasion of Vietnam into a “victory” of some kind. Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 7 2025 13:54 utc | 105 Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Nov 7 2025 13:25 utc | 101 Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 7 2025 13:57 utc | 106 @ Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 7 2025 13:34 utc | 103 Posted by: jared | Nov 7 2025 14:00 utc | 107 acementhead@60……you, like the Russians, can’t find the elephant in the room. Off you go, US this US that, it’s a given all US politicians and their domestic and foreign policy is shit prepared by assholes…..but I have yet to hear one US politician of standing say that the US is at war with Russia…..the Brits and their bumbling diaspora have no issue taking credit, so boastful are they, Russia is afraid, like a pathetic little cat, to even mention England, they fly fancy fire crackers around to try and frighten the west, completely ignoring the Brexit countries and their hearty contribution to killing a few hundred……er, thousands of Russians…… Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 7 2025 14:01 utc | 108 @Merv Ritchie | Nov 6 2025 17:27 utc | 10
R2P was endorsed by the UN General Assembly. It is a norm and had no enforcement mechanism. The legal mechanism for the SMO is that Russia formally recognised the sovereignty of the two Donbass republics and accepted their request for assistance against Ukraine. Posted by: cirsium | Nov 7 2025 14:05 utc | 109 “What is the future for Europe?” Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 7 2025 14:06 utc | 110
https://x.com/angeloinchina/status/1986650201088761923 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2025 14:07 utc | 111 Please note that there are a number of YouTube channels using AI to impersonate Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer – including ‘Daily Fans Jeffrey Sachs’ and ‘Friends of Jeffrey Sachs’ and ‘Fans Mearsheimer realism’. There are many more. The visual images are good but the gestures, mannerisms and the voices betray the illusion. Sorry if already posted. Busker Posted by: The Busker | Nov 7 2025 14:15 utc | 112 Currently, there is no movement in and out of Mirnograd, but there is no encirclement. And that’s according to the more sane pro-nazi OSINT. They should write a philosophy paper about overcoming basic pesky logic. Posted by: boneless | Nov 7 2025 14:23 utc | 113 This courageous guy will soon find himself on the EU/US/English/Ukrainian/Israeli hit list. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 7 2025 14:25 utc | 114 Posted by: boneless | Nov 7 2025 14:23 utc | 114 My guess is the focus is keep diluting AFU inside Myrnograd (keep bombing, droning positions). But the bigger priority is solidifying the Rodynske and front south of Shakhove to stall the AFU offensive attempt, which they scraped together by bringing forces from other fronts. If they neuter that offensive, that gamble will make the defeat even larger for AFU compared to what it would have been retreating 6 weeks ago from Myrnograd. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2025 14:26 utc | 115 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 7 2025 14:27 utc | 116 Posted by: BG13 | Nov 6 2025 21:51 utc | 39 Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 7 2025 14:39 utc | 117 The US terrorist state – doing targeting runs for the Neo-Nazi in Ukraine – in a similar fashion as to Perfidious Albion does over Gaza for the Zio-Monsters. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 7 2025 14:51 utc | 118 The Russians/Soviets, destroyed the Nazi’s once before – and they are doing it again. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 7 2025 14:54 utc | 119 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 7 2025 14:55 utc | 120 Looks like I’ll need to make up some new maps for the Russians, a bit exhausting, but they need all the help they can get. Sweden has allotted 400 drones to the fund the Ukie Coke Addiction Foundation…… apparently the goal, destroy Russia’s energy infrastructure. Is that not a declaration of war, no, apparently it’s not. The Russians are very philanthropic, they won’t mind donating a few more thousand dead Russians civvie and soldier alike to the Keep the Russian Economy Strong Fund…….all this money, how does one get in? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 7 2025 15:15 utc | 121
https://x.com/apocalypseos/status/1986653520926535703 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2025 15:37 utc | 122 Russia’s stability is crumbling as internal reports point to a nationwide collapse. In June 2025, Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina admitted the economy was running out of resources, while Prime Minister Mishustin warned in August that most regional budgets for 2025 remain unfilled. Posted by: Louis | Nov 7 2025 15:53 utc | 123 When you’ve lost the Economist, you know you’re really in trouble … Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 7 2025 15:56 utc | 124
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 7 2025 14:06 utc | 111 Posted by: jared | Nov 7 2025 16:04 utc | 125 Posted by: Louis | Nov 7 2025 15:53 utc | 124 “Russia’s stability is crumbling as internal reports point to a nationwide collapse.” Posted by: ed4 | Nov 7 2025 16:21 utc | 126
Well, I had pointed out here a few days ago that it would have been the best strategy for the Kremlin to have finished off the Ukraine war theatre a few months in 2022 by kinetic regime change of the Zelensky regime and then mop-up the resultant insurgency a few weeks after that thereby occupying Ukraine temporarily under a new friendly government in Bankova. Short of nuclear escalation, this is strategically much more sustainable than to tie-up Russia on a slow-SMO aimed at attriting a 50+ enemy alliance in Ukraine. Some may consider leaders of NATO & EU as psychopaths/morons who, lacking the industrial capability to produce weapons now, are deluded as to what they are venturing into against Russia, but a deeper look into how they have begun implementing their re-armament plans indicates some seriousness which can only be waived away by wishful optimists. Posted by: cegnoveltyesq | Nov 7 2025 16:23 utc | 127
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 7 2025 16:23 utc | 128 Almost as silly as Erdogan changing Turkey to Turkiye in English as well? Posted by: malenkov | Nov 7 2025 17:13 utc | 129
You are wrong, it is too late for Russia! West is doing a massive industrial reconversion, where automotive plants are producing military vehicles and everywhere factories are reconverted to produce eveything needed to sustain a war. And people supports it, as rearming means jobs and money flowing. Posted by: Louis | Nov 7 2025 17:21 utc | 130 where automotive plants are producing military vehicles Posted by: too scents | Nov 7 2025 17:27 utc | 131 Clouds Of Alabama | Nov 7 2025 13:25 utc | 100 Posted by: Cynic | Nov 7 2025 17:39 utc | 132 Seems Rodynske is still contested, but AFU offensive here has definitely stalled. Their positions inside Rodynske and forward deployments west of Rodynske are bombed. It takes some time and they become defeated.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2025 17:43 utc | 133 “West is doing a massive industrial reconversion…” Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 7 2025 17:44 utc | 134 Re:
Posted by: cegnoveltyesq | Nov 7 2025 17:59 utc | 135 I do not really attempt to understand history, but the following is what I think I have managed to absorb regarding US history of the earlier part of the 20th century: Posted by: jared | Nov 7 2025 18:01 utc | 136 Re:
Posted by: cegnoveltyesq | Nov 7 2025 18:16 utc | 137
Posted by: Louis | Nov 7 2025 17:21 utc | 130
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 7 2025 18:18 utc | 138 “industrial reconversion”…. Where do people get this sh-t? I’m American… Texan. We are essentially in a DEPRESSION, with about 25 percent functional unemployment, rising bankruptcies (personal and business), and massive private debt with rising inflation. Lord have mercy… industrial reconversion. Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 7 2025 18:28 utc | 139 I think Louis is referring to a speech made by Mark Rutte-a few days ago- where Rutte said:
NATO chief Mark Rutte said on Thursday that the alliance is closing the gap with Russia’s advantage in ammunition manufacturing. Posted by: Fredrick | Nov 7 2025 18:43 utc | 140 @Fredrick | Nov 7 2025 18:43 utc | 140 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 7 2025 19:00 utc | 141 Gosh, who is left to use that ammunition and where will they find anyone with the brains and experience to command? Tragicomic. Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 7 2025 19:11 utc | 142 reply to 138 Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 7 2025 19:13 utc | 143
Posted by: cegnoveltyesq | Nov 7 2025 17:59 utc | 135 (my bolding) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 7 2025 19:57 utc | 144 Tutti Frutti Rutte: “We are no longer just thinking about thinking about starting to make more munitions, now we are actually thinking about starting to make more munitions. This is a qualitative development towards making more munitions!” Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 7 2025 19:57 utc | 145 Tutti Frutti Rutte .. Posted by: tucenz | Nov 7 2025 20:16 utc | 146 Yea the US became basically continuously insolvent when they abandoned the gold standard (and banned gold currency from being used for debt payments ). Posted by: tobias cole | Nov 7 2025 22:19 utc | 147 No comment -for 60 secs Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 7 2025 23:02 utc | 148 Let’s not dwell on corpses. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2025 1:55 utc | 149 Could anyone please suggest a reasonable mapping website for the Ukraine conflict? Posted by: Judge Barbier | Nov 8 2025 10:34 utc | 150 Federal insolvency crisis baked in the cake for 2027, Posted by: Exile | Nov 8 2025 13:37 utc | 151 Could anyone please suggest a reasonable mapping website for the Ukraine conflict? Posted by: too scents | Nov 8 2025 13:54 utc | 152 Could anyone please suggest a reasonable mapping website for the Ukraine conflict? Posted by: Judge Barbier | Nov 8 2025 10:34 utc | 150 — https://divgen.ru/ In Russian. Just maps. Quick (if Russian) overview. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2025 14:50 utc | 153
Posted by: S | Nov 8 2025 17:15 utc | 154 Russian war correspondent Sergey Shilov on the West’s Goebbels-like propaganda against Russians (source):
Posted by: S | Nov 8 2025 17:22 utc | 155
Posted by: jared | Nov 7 2025 18:01 utc | 136 Posted by: Hamburger | Nov 8 2025 17:34 utc | 156 Another CIA base near Kiev hit overnight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsWa6Yj0xp4 Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 8 2025 18:24 utc | 157 @ 130. ” West is doing a massive industrial reconversion, where automotive plants are producing military vehicles and everywhere factories are reconverted to produce eveything needed to sustain a war. And people supports it, as rearming means jobs and money flowing. ” Posted by: golddigger | Nov 8 2025 19:04 utc | 158 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 8 2025 19:36 utc | 159 Maybe this is related to the sudden disappearance of Lavrov…One foreign policy blunder too much, even for gullible VVP.. Posted by: Louis | Nov 8 2025 20:52 utc | 161 The only country you see brand new new Tanks and IFVs. rolling down the line is in Russia. Posted by: Archetypex | Nov 8 2025 21:46 utc | 162 @ Louis | Nov 8 2025 20:52 utc | 160 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 8 2025 22:15 utc | 163 All because he was upset that the proper noun for the country-“ Turkey”- suggests the loud and ugly bird eaten during Thanksgiving. Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Nov 8 2025 23:15 utc | 164 @ Hamburger | Nov 8 2025 17:34 utc | 155 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 8 2025 23:23 utc | 165 TheNorthern Chef @ 164 Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 8 2025 23:51 utc | 166 The longer the war goes on the more pain for the West which is why they beg for a ceasefire in so many different ways. Russia will stay the course, and thr West will either lose, or escalate further…and still lose. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 9 2025 1:41 utc | 167 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 9 2025 1:41 utc | 167 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 1:46 utc | 168
Posted by: Tel | Nov 9 2025 3:12 utc | 169 NATO To Deploy 800,000 Troops in Case of War With Russia – German General Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2025 4:32 utc | 170 Posted by: Louis | Nov 8 2025 20:52 utc | 160
Louis = a paid CIPSO idiot = lousy character pig Posted by: ghiwen | Nov 9 2025 7:20 utc | 171 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 8 2025 23:23 utc | 166
Posted by: Hamburger | Nov 9 2025 9:47 utc | 172 @ malenkoy, §166: Posted by: John Marks | Nov 9 2025 11:00 utc | 173
Posted by: John Marks | Nov 9 2025 11:00 utc | 174 Posted by: Hamburger | Nov 9 2025 11:49 utc | 174 Eightman@97 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Nov 9 2025 12:07 utc | 175 golddigger@158……wars are long and dreary, retooling can happen faster than you think. The infrastructure is there. As for what happens during war that is a government private corp contract along the lines that everything built for war is delivered at cost, the companies partaking in these government programs have their profit built into back end government orders for after the war, and if that side looses…..hmm, profits will be the last thing people are concerned with……. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 9 2025 13:50 utc | 176 Jolie like Sean Penn is a US deep state asset – as is George Clooney and his lawyer wife, used to give the Yanks the face of respectability – the Neo-Nazi’s are so desperate for bodies that – they tried to pressgang this guy into their Neo-Nazi fighting force. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 15:18 utc | 177 Another one added to the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi kill list – lately Woody Allen – and a group of kids some young as three-years old, were also added to the hit list. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:01 utc | 178 Interesting stuff. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:04 utc | 179 What is left of the once mighty Russian Army; under cover of fog, on motorbikes and in civilian vehicles with the doors removed (for easy exit in case a drone is spotted). Posted by: Louis | Nov 11 2025 7:41 utc | 180 Louis it’s a 180 – they’re coming in not going out… Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 11 2025 7:57 utc | 181 As I expected, India is the first to bow to secondary sanctions (once a colony, forever a colony). Posted by: Louis | Nov 11 2025 11:05 utc | 182 Louis it’s a 180 – they’re coming in not going out… Posted by: Newbie | Nov 11 2025 12:28 utc | 183 |
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