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November 3, 2025
Trump’s Nuclear Weapon Tests Won’t Include Nuke Explosions

Last week U.S. President Donald Trump published a confused tweet about nuclear testing:

…  Because of other countries testing programs, I have instructed the Department of War to start testing our Nuclear Weapons on an equal basis.  …

Some media panicky wrote that Trump had ordered to detonate nuclear warheads.

I disagreed with that interpretation:

All nuclear warheads the U.S. has are under the control of the Department of Energy. It is the sole agency that can do test explosions of nuclear warheads. The nuclear delivery vehicles which are used to deploy the war heads are under the control of the Department of Defense (or ‘Department of War’ as Trump calls it).

Trump said “Because of other countries testing programs” and “start testing … on an equal basis” both in reference of nuclear delivery vehicle tests of other countries.

Trump thereby likely meant to order the DoD to test its nuclear delivery vehicles, just like Russia has recently done. He did not order the DoE to test nuclear war heads.

The testing of nuclear delivery vehicles, like intercontinental missiles, is a routine that has been done every year since those exist.

It is nothing to panic about.

On Sunday the Energy Secretary confirms that no nuclear explosions are involved (archived):

The nuclear testing ordered by President Trump will not involve nuclear explosions, U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright said on Sunday, adding that the testing would involve “the other parts of a nuclear weapon” to ensure they are working properly.

Mr. Wright’s comments came four days after Mr. Trump made the declaration that he was ordering the U.S. military to resume nuclear testing “on an equal basis” with other countries, raising the specter of a return to the worst days of the Cold War.

“I think the tests we’re talking about right now are systems tests,” Mr. Wright said in an interview on the Fox News show “The Sunday Briefing.” “These are not nuclear explosions. These are what we call noncritical explosions.”

Noncritical or subcritical explosion test are those where, for example, the chemical explosives which, within a nuclear warhead, are supposed to initiate the nuclear fission are tested for their stability. That is, like testing the wiring of a warhead detonator, routine stuff which every country that has nuclear weapons does on a regular basis.

The Los Alamos National Laboratory is where the U.S. is doing these tests:

Subcritical experiments allow researchers to evaluate the behavior of nuclear materials (usually plutonium) in combination with high explosives. This configuration mimics the fission stage of a modern nuclear weapon. However, subcrits remain below the threshold of reaching criticality. No critical mass is formed, and no self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction occurs—there is no nuclear explosion.

Although subcrits don’t create self-sustaining nuclear reactions, in many ways, they harken back to the days of full-scale nuclear testing. Since the 1992 moratorium on full-scale nuclear testing, subcrits have provided valuable data related to weapons design, safety, materials, aging, and more. This information helps scientists determine if America’s nuclear weapons will work as intended.

These experiments are legit even under the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. They are, just as I had said, no need to panic.

Comments

Quick to jump the gun, media pounce upon DJT’s Truth Social post in order to gin up faux outrage over his policies.  On the heels of his brief but critical G2 w/ Xi in South Korea, you can believe the media were salivating over ways to undermine his news-cycle.
 
b called it

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 14:56 utc | 1

“Hey guys, we’re going to practice marksmanship but no guns will be involved.
 
We will use imaginary guns and our Marines will identify as accurate badasses.”
 
😂😂😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 15:06 utc | 3

steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 14:56 utc | 1
“Quick to jump the gun, media pounce upon DJT’s Truth Social post in order to gin up faux outrage over his policies.”
And as usual he worded the post specifically in order to trigger that fake outrage. Same old kayfabe. 

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 3 2025 15:10 utc | 4

Trump’s goal was to push Putin out of the headlines again, not to conduct nuclear tests. So, typical Trump again: pure propaganda for his ego.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 3 2025 15:12 utc | 5

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 3 2025 15:12 utc | 5
 
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People with nothing substantive to say are often the loudest.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 15:13 utc | 6

Thanks for clarifying. How dangerous and embarrassing this US administration is.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 3 2025 15:25 utc | 7

“People with nothing substantive to say are often the loudest.”
 
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 3 2025 15:13 utc | 6
 
You should know, the above is your Modus Operandi.
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 3 2025 15:37 utc | 8

People with nothing substantive to say are often the loudest.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 15:13 utc | 6
Are you saying that those who have no arguments resort to insults and abuse?

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 3 2025 15:43 utc | 9

my question is this… if trump is firing everyone and cutting back on all sorts of expenses, how is the scientific community faring in all of this in the usa?? i heard a cbc radio interview and they painted a dark picture on this..  is the trump admin cutting back on science and research??  anyone know?
 
thanks b! 

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 15:49 utc | 10

And as usual he worded the post specifically in order to trigger that fake outrage. Same old kayfabe. 
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 3 2025 15:10 utc | 4
Never underestimate the gullibility of some people….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqzA1VOiC-M
 
 

Posted by: jinn | Nov 3 2025 15:49 utc | 11

So, in other words, the Yanks would’ve done some testing on their 40+ years old delivery vehicles, but since both of them (Trident and Minuteman) were tested just recently, they’ll now get to blow up some materials in a lab and call that a “nuclear weapons test”… 
 
You can’t make this shit up! This “film production” is getting better than Hollywood and more hilarious by the day!

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Nov 3 2025 15:49 utc | 12

@ lovedonbass
 
you might want to dial back your posts here at moa.. you’d be doing everyone a favour.. thanks.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 15:50 utc | 13

Thank you for clarifying. It is true. The ban is on comprehensive nuclear testing
However, the NPT stands on twelve columns and was created to prevent proliferation so that: 
1. The non-nuclear states would not obtain nuclear weapons
2. In return, the nuclear states would not help spread it to the non-nuclear states.
3. In return, the Nuclear states would diminish their nuclear arsenals.
4. The non-nuclear states have the inalienable right to nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. 
The US has ignored those articles which has forced others to do the same. The US has been the sole cause of proliferation, expansion, and harassment the non-nuclear States for their inalienable right.
Please correct me as I could be wrong.

Posted by: Moral realist | Nov 3 2025 15:57 utc | 14

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 15:50 utc | 13
 
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I’ll take orders from b—no one else.
 
Thanks for your feedback!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 15:58 utc | 15

@ lovedonbass
 “you might want to dial back your posts here at moa.. you’d be doing everyone a favour.. thanks.. ”
 
Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 15:50 utc | 13
 
I second that motion.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 3 2025 15:59 utc | 16

Never supported the 5th column Miga movement, never will.  
But, this is just the standard issue TDS since 2016, which is real and meant to seize on everything he says to push the most frightening narrative possible.  If people haven’t learned to ignore and make a rational analysis by now, they are just Dembots.  
It’s especially amusing that Biden’s constant provocation of nuclear war with Russia, so much more serious than a test, was reported as quite laudable for years!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 3 2025 16:05 utc | 17

quote from  search assist
 
“The Trump administration has implemented significant cuts and freezes to science and research funding, particularly affecting areas like climate change, health research, and diversity initiatives. These changes have raised concerns about a potential decline in scientific innovation and a possible brain drain of researchers leaving the U.S. for better opportunities abroad.”
 
a couple of headlines from the duckduckgo search
 

February 18, 2025
8 min read

Trump Takes a ‘Giant Wrecking Ball’ to U.S. Research

America’s status as a global science leader is in doubt as the administration freezes funding and targets research that references climate or diversity

 
Trump Has Cut Science Funding to Its Lowest Level in Decades
etc. etc.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 16:09 utc | 18

Why?
Without live explosions?
Simple answer: the risk that Russia and China would then also conduct tests is too great.
Not because of the explosions themselves, but rather because these countries, with their modern systems, could demonstrate to the public… how technologically advanced they are and where America stands.
And America hasn’t been number one for a very long time.

Posted by: Genesis | Nov 3 2025 16:11 utc | 19

Why hasn’t Trump “ended the war in 24 hours”?
 
https://www.somo.nl/eu-countries-are-selling-critical-energy-infrastructure-to-trump-aligned-fossil-fuel-giant-energy-transfer/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 3 2025 16:12 utc | 20

War ‘Rhetoric’ – Permanent War Mode Since 911 Event.!
The Government Is Closed – To Prevent ‘Epstein’ Arrests.!
Lock Her Up (2016) – NO ONE At The Top Gone To Jail/Prison Yet!
“Global Elite Controlling Oligarchs” = ‘Epstein’ Group
If the Epstein Files Are Fully Released (Including Video’s), They’ll Expose U.S. Presidents, Politicians, Royals, Billionaires, and Global Puppet Masters, Etc.!
We’re talking about the Richest, Most Powerful Elites on Earth — U.S. Presidents, Ex-Presidents, Royalty, Tech Billionaires (AI), Wall Street Kingpins, …
Global Elite Controlling Oligarchs” With Their ‘Mockingbird’ Media System – Want a ‘Civil War’ Between The Public – Rather Than A ‘Revolt’ Against The – “Global Elite Controlling Oligarchs”.!
 
 

Posted by: JohnF | Nov 3 2025 16:35 utc | 21

Since this thread has already gone off track on Trump’s nuclear-nothingburger I thought I’d toot my own horn a bit on a comment made two days ago.  Larry Johnson appears to have written a post today that dovetails with mine & Asian-Frog’s conjecture, [Headline/link at the bottom of this comment]:
 

“Just spitballing…I would think this action might be some part of an extraction operation, perhaps a distraction while some “worthy” official escapes by some other means. Worthy? You know, some wayward English/”Anglicized” officer off on a bit of a jaunt that came a cropper, a good propaganda catch for media exploitation”  – S Brennan  71

 
And in fairness, Asian Frog 14 beat me to the punch:
 

Maybe their mission was to extract a few Nato “advisers”… or terminate them so that they wouldn’t be captured alive…
Posted by: Asian Frog | Nov 1 2025 12:14 utc | 14
Missed your comment while I was writing my wordy version. Yes, I believe you have prior “art”   – S Brennan  74

 
Ukraine’s Suicide Helicopter Missions… Why?  3 Nov 2025
 
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-suicide-helicopter-missions-why/:

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 3 2025 16:39 utc | 22

People with nothing substantive to say are often the loudest.

And the most prolific posters…

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 3 2025 16:48 utc | 23

escalatory announcements and gestures are definitely not meaningless. Iran, Russia, China, etc., are not going to simply yawn and go back to sleep over this.
 
too bad all the Dept of Energy workers are on leave from “Project Defend our freedom fries”. the stockpiles will just have to maintain, upgrade and test themselves.  it will be real bad if a wildfire threatens Los Alamos or the PanTex facility near Amarillo, Texas or some such and no one is on site who knows the safety systems cuz they are standing in line waiting for the food dole.
 
who in Washington DC even knows that the Dept of Energy budget is used to hide that very profitable nuclear weapons industry?
 
 

Posted by: duck n cover | Nov 3 2025 16:52 utc | 24

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 3 2025 15:10 utc | 4
 
RE:    And as usual DJT worded the post specifically in order to trigger that fake outrage. Same old kayfabe. 
 
<<
 
Strictly chum bucket stuff.
 
Anglers know the easiest fish to catch are the channel cats:  they’ve got a keen sense of smell, which makes them especially susceptible to a variety of baits like chicken gizzards, stink bait and jack mackeral.
 
With his Truth Social trolling, DJT knows “If you chum, the fish will come.”
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 17:18 utc | 25

@Republicofscotland | Nov 3 2025 15:03 utc | 2
The part of the video one is shown does not show anything that indicates a nuke
But there was on the other hand a missing part of the video in the beginning that raises suspicion…
What happened the first second?
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 3 2025 17:27 utc | 26

So Trump is at one and the same time an ignorant chump who is easily manipulated by stroking his ego, but also a brilliant operator who cleverly remote-controls the entire hapless and helpless presstitution industry with brief but precisely worded posts on social media. 
 
kinda like how Russia is a weak and backwards hinterlands with inadequate meat-wave armies armed with shovels, but at the same time a dire threat poised to overrun all of Europe. 
 
Amazing how western mass media mass-consumers can so easily internalize such obvious contradictions these days. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 3 2025 17:38 utc | 27

The greater danger of a demagogue is being a master decoy, especially as things are burning down. By further sucking up all the oxygen in the room a demagogue’s performance also smothers thought into a haze of reflexivity, emotionality, while clouding out the exits, let alone the capacity to push back and put out fires. Trump feels more like a distraction than a meaningful discussion topic, however his fan dance threat is very real while the real greater threat is oblique.
 
 
Discussing his words versus actions feels like arguing or applauding while the circus tent is burning down around us. The carnival barker is rarely our friend. Forgive me if I keep scrambling with others for the exits and helping others put out what fires we can. 🙂

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 3 2025 17:44 utc | 28

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 15:50 utc | 13
 
RE:   you might want to dial back your posts here at moa.. you’d be doing everyone a favour.. thanks.. 
 
<<
 
Erm, who appointed you the hall monitor-?
 
I very much value Love’s perspective/insights/gutsiness and level of engagement. 
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 17:48 utc | 29

Should be remembered that very recently, Putin said a certain unnamed country was preparing a nuclear test. Trumps ambiguous statement may either be an admission that it was the US, which Putin was referring to, or conversely, meant as diplomatic cover for another country — preparing the ground, so to speak, for another country to do this — Israel, England, France, all seem the most likely candidates. 

Posted by: Nothingburgers | Nov 3 2025 17:50 utc | 30

 petergrfstrm (26).
 
Yes you are probably right – but I don’t doubt the Zionists are in possession of small tactical nukes.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 3 2025 17:52 utc | 31

titmouse  @28: “put out what fires we can”
 
 
You are aware, aren’t you, that it is the presstitution industry that is lighting these fires, right? 
 
The presstitutes are babbling on about tomahawks once more, so maybe Trump needs to yank their TDS chains again to get them spazzing out about something else (tomahawks are a dangerous topic for the presstitutes to be lighting fires over… safer by far to have them freaking out over notional nuke tests).

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 3 2025 18:26 utc | 32

IMO, the last sentence of the OP would be more accurate/complete like this:
“…no need to panic – about this specific [non-]issue, at least.”

Posted by: elkern | Nov 3 2025 18:38 utc | 33

People with nothing substantive to say are often the loudest.
 
Love Donbass
 

“And the most prolific  posters”…
 
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 3 2025 16:48 utc | 23
 
BOOM -right over the target!!

Posted by: canuk | Nov 3 2025 18:41 utc | 34

Around the world, a general commentary repeatedly made is “Don’t pay even the least bit of attention to anything Trump says or writes.  It’s meaningless, and usually false.”
 
Gruff and others have reinforced that idea in a very powerful way.
 
 

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 3 2025 19:06 utc | 35

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 3 2025 19:06 utc | 35
 
Seems to me TACO has been a pretty safe bet so far

Posted by: qparker | Nov 3 2025 19:27 utc | 36

This is not one of our host’s finest moments. In the context of such events as the raids on what were nuclear weapons delivery tech in Russia, threats of adding Tomahawks, a nuclear weapon delivery system to Ukraine’s arsenal and the long-standing program of US renovation of nuclear weapons—this last was boasted about in the very post under discussion!—the post was yet another escalation in nuclear threats, both material (those wonderful new nukes Trump boasted about) and verbal. As ever with nuclear weapons, the situation is potentially existential for humanity (though not the planet, cockroaches may well be safe.) Trump didn’t actually start a ticking clock with this, but that is the only sense in which our host is correct. Trump didn’t need to post a damn word, the only point to that was to threaten nuclear assault. The fact that other voices are pushing back doesn’t mean Trump is TACO. It just means people who can rationalize Trump’s threats as somehow not threatening to them personally are just being gullible. 
 
The self-congratulation of some posters about kay-fabe and other ignorant twaddle is to be understood I suppose. It’s not as if events will ever congratulate them on their perspicacity! Better to award yourself praise!  The thing is, these poor souls never seem to ask themselves, who is the audience for this kay-fabe? Who’s paying the players? Indeed, they don’t even seem to be quite sure who is playing the hero or the heel? Surely any theorist of kay-fabe should have the God-given nous to explain that Trump is playing the hero to so-and-so’s heel, but it’s all make believe so that his audience—which these geniuses seem to think can only consist of Americans!—is being fooled by the masterful play-acting of Trump, Xi, Putin et al.   
 
My proffered alternate explanation is Trump was trolling Xi, in lieu of actual diplomacy. And his apparent pullback from literal bomb testing is largely PR, none of which matters to Trump who never seems to worry about mere facts. Good PR doesn’t need them. The substance of the threat, that the US likely has more modernized nukes than anybody else, remains. Come to think of it, this likely strikes the Trump cultists and apologists as a Good Thing?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 3 2025 19:40 utc | 37

Steel P 29,
 
That was sarcasm…right?  I say that because you put up some good stuff.   Recently, on an approximately 200 comment thread  Dumbass had 20% of the comments…clearly, nobody is abridging his speech here…in fact, it’s Dumbass drowning out the voices of others with his prodigal postings so…surely you are Trumping™  us……eh?
 
FYI, I’ve been banned here and on other blogs in my ~25 years of commenting under my own name so, I’m not a fan of people calling for banishment but, it’s Dumbass who is continually calling for poster to be banned and as this thread shows, telling others to shut-up.  It would seem to me that “turnabout is fair play”…no?

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 3 2025 19:58 utc | 38

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 3 2025 18:26 utc | 32
 
RE:  a response to titmouse’s post  @28: “put out what fires we can”  William Gruff wrote, “You are aware, aren’t you, that it is the presstitution industry that is lighting these fires, right?”
 
<<
 
What gets your attention gets you.
 
The Permanent Washington-obeisant media has been so got by a novel president like DJT that they suffer a type of Target Fixation, like pilots experience when they focus so intently on an observed object, be it target or hazard,  that they inadvertently risk colliding w/ the object.
 
Race car drivers experience something similar.
 
As the term makes obvious, Target Fixation results from becoming overly focused on one distractable thing to the exclusion of other salient or even orienting features,  
 
The media angle in this is clear:  the media’s aim is to undermine DJT, to invalidate him, to thwart him, to nullify him and force him out.
 
They’re so singlemindedly focused on this targe— to relegate DJT to the dustbin of history—that they raise the same degree of righteous umbrage over building the new ballroom as they do over the possibility of testing nuclear weapons.
 
In other words, the media are always in a state of peak high dudgeon—so much so that it is difficult truly to determine what in this landscape of rage-producing policies is actually dangerous or unlawful or, their favorite, undemocratic-?
 
Distracted by the off-chance that DJT might do something that is more authoritarian than prior U.S. presidents, the media cannot spend any time at all probing and interrogating the U.S.’s unwavering support for Israel and the U.S.’s enabling the Gaza genocide.  True horrors have manifested over the past two years, but the media seems more relieved just to parse every word of a Truth Social post.
 
Recall:  it is how covfefe came about in 2017.   DJT mistyped the word “coverage” in his Twitter post, and covfefe was born.   Covfefe was so much simpler than having to address the sham & fraud of Russiagate, circa 2017-2019, and the media’s very own complicity in it.
 
Safer now, too,  just to hover over what DJT might do.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 20:06 utc | 39

if the media was trying to as you say “invalidate him, to thwart him, to nullify him” and etc – they would be talking about epstein much more frequently.. but they are not.. why would that be? 

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 20:32 utc | 40

Because Epstein falls on the feet of others, too. And they happen to be good friends of the mockingbirds.

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 3 2025 20:37 utc | 41

The media works for the authoritarian oligarch class: Bezos, numerous Zionists, Murdoch, etc.
 
Epstein is coming. The midterms will likely be all about Epstein. No sense in starting now, it’s too early to sabotage re-election campaigns.
 
It is a massive wedge to wield at the MAGA base that will also destroy Republicans.
 
So many MAGA voters are lukewarm about Trump now that he has become an apologist for rape and elite human trafficking.
 
Normal people can overlook rude language and locker room talk.
 
Children, that’s another matter. The last remaining social red line in the West.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 20:40 utc | 42

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 3 2025 20:37 utc | 42
 
######
 
Epstein is the bear. The Democrats and elites don’t have to outrun the bear; they only have to outrun Trump.
 
Same thing with Israel. Trump’s positioning has left him no wiggle room on being a genocider. The Dems are bought by AIPAC, but the Republicans are proud and advertise it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 20:45 utc | 43

steel_porcupine @40:
 
 
I agree. The mass media’s obsession with undermining Trump’s support is truly unprecedented and unhinged. They pile on in opposition to any of Trump’s objectives. They know Trump is opposed to sending tomahawks, so they want to create pressure to send tomahawks, which is insanely escalatory and could possibly force Trump’s hand. So what does Trump do to distract the mindlessly yammering mockingbirds? Pretend he wants to light off some nuclear fireworks. To continue their pathological opposition to everything Trump the presstitutes have to oppose nuke tests, which is easy as that really scares them. In the meantime the tomahawks get back-burnered.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 3 2025 20:45 utc | 44

Probably going off-topic here, but is there a case to be made that high-yield nuclear weapons are obsolete? the development of accurate, computer-guided targetting means that a wide blast radius is no longer needed?
 
In the days when missiles couldn’t be guaranteed to get within a mile of the intended target, then a blast radius was necessary to ensure destruction of the target, collateral damage be damned. Nowadays (as the Russians have demonstrated), a warhead can be delivered within metres of the target objective.
 
Unless, of course, the US can’t actually manage that degree of accuracy, so still needs a wide blast radius? Just sayin’…
 
And, just supposing, the subcritical testing uncovers some hitherto unknown problems, perhaps related to the sheer age of the weapons? Difficult to maintain a credible nuclear weapons programme when the primary focus of senior management and executives is on the quarterly bonus…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 3 2025 20:55 utc | 45

“I very much value Love’s perspective/insights/gutsiness and level of engagement. ” 
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 17:48 utc | 29
 
You are an astute poster; have you taken some LSD or some powerful Hallucinogen that produced the above?
 
If not, you may have been surreptitiously poisoned with some powerful drug!

Posted by: canuk | Nov 3 2025 21:08 utc | 46

Some say Trump is a friend of the mockingbirds, too. Perhaps over some mutual acquaintances. While it is a stretch to assume he is himself behind Russiagate (as one barfly suggested), it is not entirely inconceivable he is playing his part in a scheme (essentially a giant PsyOp) to redo the whole public sphere in the US. I can see that this is a paranoid idea, but still …

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 3 2025 21:11 utc | 47

Yes William Gruff, I am aware of the media being a co-conspirator of the performance. I think steel-porcupine does a good breakdown of what is going on: media being used as a deep state tool to corral Trump from any sort of deviation of dynastic long-term strategy. And I do hear your point about this could be a grand distraction by Trump to avoid a Tomahawk checkmate currently. However the operative excuse word there is “could”.
 
 
But my bigger contention is why pin my hope or disgust on Trump? We lose agency as a populace if we are stuck only cheering or booing the actors on stage. We are dealing with nuclear proliferation, a very serious topic, and our agency is being reduced to hope (or spite, depends how you look at it). But hope (or spite) is not a strategy, it is a motivator, an aspiration to keep you going through hard times.
 
 
My bigger issue is we should be contacting our government representatives, country is almost irrelevant, and voice our disgust of having to refight old 1970s and 1980s nuclear proliferation & Star Wars insanity. At some point it is up to us to turn away from the show, exit as many as we can save, and snuff out as many fires as we can. Clapping or booing for Tinkerbell is for audience engagement, and now with such stakes is really not the time. We have to think bigger than the greatest show on earth; we have to be grounded and retain our agency.

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 3 2025 21:30 utc | 48

titmouse @49
 
 
Contact your representatives? If the illusion they care makes you feel better, but you’d be more successful changing things by contacting Bezos, Murdoch, Roberts, Iger, etc. I’d recommend contacting them with a baseball bat.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 3 2025 21:41 utc | 49

My bigger issue is we should be contacting our government representatives, country is almost irrelevant, and voice our disgust of having to refight old 1970s and 1980s nuclear proliferation & Star Wars insanity. At some point it is up to us to turn away from the show, exit as many as we can save, and snuff out as many fires as we can. Clapping or booing for Tinkerbell is for audience engagement, and now with such stakes is really not the time. We have to think bigger than the greatest show on earth; we have to be grounded and retain our agency.

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 3 2025 21:30 utc | 49
 
Laudable, and I agree with the point. Sadly, (at least here in Britain) our political leadership, whether in government or opposition,  is just a group of clones, (“Interchangeable Emmas ” ©Sir pTerry) who toe the prevailing neocon/neoliberal* line.
 
For the best part of 3 years now, I have been regularly rattling my local political “representatives” email inbox with requests to them for confirmation that Britain’s aid to Ukraine is carbon-neutral. To date, apart from email autobot replies, full of boilerplate about “Your message is important” etc, etc, I have yet to receive a personalised reply.
 
*A neocon delights in waging war on the populations of other countries
A neoliberal delights in waging war on the populations of their own countries

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 3 2025 21:51 utc | 50

Full disclosure.  Imo it was obvious that the tests were nuclear systems tests and not nuclear detonation tests. Nuclear explosions were just knee jerk reactions to the whole; The donald is crazy meme. Dont get me wrong, he may be. I think knowing how the media treats trump as opposed to say any democrat POTUS are 2 entirely different things. This tempers my thoughts of any thing trump may or may not have done  or said by any news source. I did learn some from the ensueing conversation though,  so thanks all.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 3 2025 21:52 utc | 51

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 3 2025 21:52 utc | 53
 
Also of note would be how the new missle dropped out of the news cycle. Except of course in reference to trump’s nuclear detonation “claim”. Squirrel!

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 3 2025 21:58 utc | 52

“Yes William Gruff, I am aware of the media being a co-conspirator of the performance. I think steel-porcupine does a good breakdown of what is going on: media being used as a deep state tool to corral Trump from any sort of deviation of dynastic long-term strategy. And I do hear your point about this could be a grand distraction by Trump to avoid a Tomahawk checkmate currently.”
 
Posted by: titmouse | Nov 3 2025 21:30 utc | 49
 
An excellent post!
 
Welcome to the team.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 3 2025 22:08 utc | 53

I am glad to see media-mockingbirds becoming accepted vernacular…with only 20-25% of Americans as viewership…they’re definitely not mainstream-media anymore and they are definitively on the 3LAs payroll.

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 3 2025 22:21 utc | 54

james | Nov 3 2025 20:32 utc | 41
 
IMO, Wilkerson’s correct: Both sides have Epstein mud caked to their bodies, so the Media being a Duopoly tool was told to kill the story. Same is being done with Charlie Kirk because the Zionists need the story killed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 3 2025 22:27 utc | 55

@ karlof1 | Nov 3 2025 22:27 utc | 58
 
right.. the duopoly- war party – want to stay away from this story as they’re both implicated… i haven’t been following the kirk story, but it’s gone quiet too… trying to turn it into another 9-11 event  shows the level of paranoia this specific admin is aspiring to.. have they all moved their families onto an armed forces base yet, or is that only miller and hegseth? 

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2025 22:56 utc | 56

(wiki) At that time, New York City was in the midst of a serious crisis. Municipal funding for housing projects, which had been the source of the Trumps’ profits, had to be discontinued in 1975 due to a lack of money. But Donald Trump saw the crisis as an opportunity for his own plans in Manhattan. As part of the break-up of the bankrupt Penn Central railway company, large areas of land and four once-renowned hotels in Manhattan were up for sale. No buyers could be found for one of these hotels, the dilapidated 62-storey Commodore (now the Grand Hyatt New York). As a newcomer to the industry with no capital of his own and without the necessary contacts, Trump’s prospects were initially poor. Louise Sunshine, who had previously raised funds for Hugh Carey, the governor of New York State, and had won Fred Trump as one of the largest donors, provided him with the necessary contacts. The Hyatt hotel chain was interested in the project as a possible operator of the hotel after its restoration and modernisation because it did not yet have a hotel in New York. Trump claimed to Penn Central that he already had an agreement with Hyatt, although this was not yet the case. The company then granted him a right of first refusal if he made an advance payment of $250,000. Trump did not have this money; his father had to pay the architect Der Scutt’s fee. 
Nevertheless, Trump claimed to the city, whose approval he needed for the project, that he already had a contract with Penn Central, and on this basis he received approval, even though there were now better offers from other applicants. With a personal guarantee from his father for the necessary loans, he finally succeeded in acquiring the building with Hyatt as a 50:50 partner and completing it in 1980 as a modern first-class hotel. In addition, Abraham D. Beame, the outgoing mayor of New York and a long-time friend of Fred Trump, ensured that Donald Trump was granted a tax exemption on the last day of his term in office in 1977 – the first such exemption for a private project in New York’s history – which was estimated to save him $400 million by 2017.
 
Trump’s career includes a boss for a father who suggested to him that he was a king. At military academy, he learned to polish shoes. ‘During his student days, Trump was academically, personally and politically unremarkable.’ Then, at 25, he became his father’s son by profession. …
 
What do people expect?
 
 
 

Posted by: BlindSpot | Nov 3 2025 23:02 utc | 57

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 3 2025 20:37 utc | 42
 
RE:  Epstein falls on the feet of others, too, which may be why the Permanent Washington-obeisant media is avoiding the topic altogether.   This group happens to be good friends of the mockingbirds.
 
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I wonder if Albion’s tossing (the former) Prince Andrew under the bus  (a notable chessboard piece, by the way)  is meant to slake the thirst of rabid ethics folks from trying to pin other scalps, like in the U.S.,  to Epstein and his pedophilia ring.
 
The fact is that the so-called list is already known and commonplace.  The blogger Ryan Dawson published it, so it’s not as if a list, if one does exist (Ghislane testified that Epstein did not keep a list), is a mystery.   And it cuts across both political parties in the U.S., so there is of course massive incentive not to address this topic at all, politically speaking.
 
Word is that Senator Durbin of Illinois, a Dem senator, has been blocking further Epstein-related revelations in order to protect his very own donors.
 
Don’t tell me this is a Republican-only issue.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 23:22 utc | 58

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 20:40 utc | 43
 
RE:  Children, that’s another matter. The last remaining social red line in the West.
 
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Wonderful to believe that this is true, but fearful it is not.
 
Even the existence of the Figueroa Corridor in South L.A., a neighborhood rife w/ sex trafficking of minors under the Hoover Criminal Gang, is ungovernable, at least by the lights of the State of California.
 
I know, I know–the Figueroa Corridor is not an Epstein enterprise, of course.  And keep in mind that by now Epstein is dead; he cannot re-abuse.  
 
But the Figueroa Corridor is like any other domestic U.S. hot-pillow sex trafficking op, as commonplace as guys in any major city, in that one particular neighborhood, who line up in their cars, as if waiting at a Wendy’s value menu, ready to select their fare for the evening.
 
There’s nothing magical about Epstein.  Pedophilia does not have its Alpha & Omega under Epstein.  It’s not as if solving the Epstein Riddle, such that it is—and we’re not even sure what it is—will suddenly make the issues go away.   We’re talking about a deep-seated, quite entrenched problem domestically in the U.S.—and Epstein does not scratch the surface of it.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 23:32 utc | 59

Posted by: canuk | Nov 3 2025 21:08 utc | 47
 
RE:   You are an astute poster; have you taken some LSD or some powerful Hallucinogen that produced the above? <<
 
I am under the influence of nothing more powerful than caffeine.
 
It’s a tell, however, when a member of a posting community tries to go strong on a fellow poster, as if they have a right to govern what gets contributed to the MoA thread.
 
Having lived through Russiagate, which was a massive abuse perpetrated against those who cast a vote for DJT, or more importantly cast a vote against Rodham, and having lived through the suppressions of Collective Biden, which came to light only w/ the publication of the Twitter Files, I have to interrogate and probe the efforts to silence anybody who shares a stance on MoA.
 
Sorry, canuk.  I’m a free speech absolutist.
 
Caffeine keeps me going, but 1A is my North Star.
 
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 23:47 utc | 60

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 3 2025 21:41 utc | 50
 
RE:  contact your representatives-?
 
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Anecdotally, I did in fact contact every one of my representatives, both Senate & Legistlative, during Collective Biden’s intensifying of the conflict in Ukraine.  This was a month or so after the NordStream sabotage, when it was clear to me that guardrails no longer really existed in how the U.S. would prosecute its proxy war.
 
Each representative did indeed respond to my plea—but they did so by rehearsing the “Putin is an evil thug whose unprovoked invasion of Ukraine is an act of brutal aggression” line of thought.
 
Each of these reps voted for every spending increase in support of weaponizing Ukraine.  I mean, one gets to a point where contacting a representative, who may in fact be financed by the Ukraine Lobby, does not help a wit.
 
When your country pursues abhorrent policies, one can nonetheless live w/ dignity & resolve within that space, even recognizing the futility of influencing matters at the level of the elites, that is to say:  the ruling class.
 
William Gruff, you know this as well as I.  They are part of a month-long governmental shut down right now.  They are solving no problems.  No one misses them.   Their very relevance is a result of a Constitutional framework, a perfunctory set-up, very reliant on historical precedent (we’ve always done things this way), but it is not as if they have any solutions to offer. 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 4 2025 0:00 utc | 61

Cynicism, though useful to predict the machinations of dynastic schemers (calling them neocons or globalists is fine as well here), can lead us to impotence through the sin of Sloth. As that sayin goes, “All evil needs is for good to do nothing.” We collapse into despair by believing the system is completely unresponsive to our actions. But that cannot be true for why would power spend an iota of effort in confusion and repression if our collective effort did not matter at all?
 
 
These lunatics are not a Schroedinger’s deep state, a perfect 1984 Big Brother, forever infinite steps ahead. That only exists in the magic delusion of prescriptive narratives where entropy and error (and life) cannot exist. They cannot be, their foolish actions reveal they are not, and their furious attempts at reasserting dominance betrays their fear. The first step requires us turning away from the show and pursuing our survival needs.
 
 
All governments everywhere are filled with politicians worried about staying popular — and you cannot fool all the people all the time. With stakes as high as restarting nuclear arms race, who cares if pushback doesn’t directly work one time in one place? The struggle to put sedative calm to a mad scramble for the exits and dousing everything remotely smoking shall tire all finite entities, regardless of size (such as extra-governmental conspirators). The contestation of evil’s insane goals by doing its opposite, even in the face of failure, is the point. Getting lost in the performance is the decoy to avoid.

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 4 2025 0:20 utc | 62

Canuk at 47
Are you taking some LSD?
Love Some Donbass!!!!!!!

Posted by: Norsk Borscht | Nov 4 2025 0:55 utc | 63

[…] I’m a free speech absolutist. […]
 
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 23:47 utc | 63

 
A man of my heart.
 
Let me add that it gets tiresome having nearly every thread include comments where contributors are told to stop posting, or to leave this blog, and so on. One could almost think MoA has turned into a Snapchat community of 4th graders.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Nov 4 2025 1:09 utc | 64

titmouse @65: “why would power spend an iota of effort in confusion and repression if our collective effort did not matter at all?”
 
 
Indeed, and you don’t want to hear this, but the electorate deliberately rejecting the Establishment narrative and voting for Trump against all the most skilled manipulations the ruling class could muster is the very best example of the effort of the public to assert some control in politics in the US in all of our lifetimes. Nothing else has come close to the upset that Trump’s victory was dealt to the Establishment by the public since… well, since ever in the United States.
 
 
What’s most tragic here is that you’re the one saying this doesn’t matter. But this is really significant. Against a full-court press by the Establishment, using every tool at their disposal including assassination, they failed and the US population voted for the very candidate that EVERYONE IN ESTABLISHMENT AUTHORITY was telling them was evil and a threat to Democracy, America, mom, and apple pie. That’s “Yuuuuge!”
 
 
Does Trump have the answers to what ails America? No, but neither do his detractors, and the American public said loud and clear that they understand the Establishment represents a dead end. Sure, Trump could ride the wave the American public gave him better than he has, but that would entail utterly destroying the Establishment rather than just trying to cut out the cancer and save the rest, which is his intention. What do you expect from an oligarch? You need a Marxist to do otherwise, and Trump isn’t one of those. Americans are not ready for that yet.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 4 2025 1:10 utc | 65

who knows best how to knock down their own strawman? 

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 1:36 utc | 66

While I have no idea of what most subcritical tests would be, one would concern the timing of the explosion of the bomb casing which must cause a perfect circular implosion of the casing around the core. The plutonium or U235 is in the center of the bomb.  If some of  explosions are mis-timed, neutrons would escape before criticality is reached.
This was the primary plot device of the 1997 movie The Peacemaker, starring George Clooney and Margot Kidder.  The two must first locate and then diffuse a nuclear weapon that a terrorist has placed near the UN building, and the timer is ticking down.  The two find the bomb, but there is no way to stop the countdown.  Instead they manage to remove one panel of the bomb’s outer shell.  This causes the force of the charge ignition on that side to be partially directed outwards, preventing the core from reaching criticality.  The bomb still explodes powerfully but self-propagating nuclear ignition doesn’t occur. Radioactive material is spread but mostly contained in the basement of the historic church in which it has been placed.  The church collapses, containing most of the radioactive material.  The screenplay was written by two of Alexander Cockburns siblings, Lesley and Andrew.

Posted by: mjh | Nov 4 2025 1:54 utc | 67

 

“We’re talking about a deep-seated, quite entrenched problem domestically in the U.S.—and Epstein does not scratch the surface of it..
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 3 2025 23:32 utc | 62

 
To what do you attribute this “deep-seated, quite entrenched problem ..in the USA,”  granted there are undoubtedly multiple causes?
 
Poverty?  — Material?  Spiritual?
 
Does not state responsibility largely spring  therefrom as children need a reliable, supportive, wise, communal matrix of support in order to flourish, extending from mum and dad, to officials responsible for education, health guidance and care, infrastructure etc… or else these precious young people succumb to darker powers out of need or want of acceptance?
 
Or perhaps the problem can be attributable in part to cultural indoctrination, a culturally commodified sense of being which inevitably alienates the young person from his or her sense of self-belonging as authentic self?  As in get on with the perverse program and be accepted; otherwise be your authentic self and be unaccepted  — and perhaps go hungry and homeless.
 

 
What is being input, processed and acted upon in all those many people I see in public who walk or drive about with a faceplanted so-called smartphone, seemingly unaware of their environs?  
 
It’s a different world today from the pre-digital age i once knew as it seems there is not much live social contact anymore that is not transactional.  As though life has gone out of social being in a communal sense…
 
As someone who came up spending timeless hours exploring nature preserve tidal pools, olden forests, desert rock formations and the like nature preserves, and experiencing sometimes beautiful but potentially dangerous tarantulas crossing my path under eucalyptus trees whilst on my way to summer school in so cal, i wonder…why how when and if…
 
 
 

Posted by: suzan | Nov 4 2025 1:55 utc | 68

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 4 2025 1:10 utc | 69
 
RE:  an electorate deliberately rejecting the Establishment narrative and voting for Trump against all the most skilled manipulations the ruling class could muster is the very best example of the effort of the public to assert some control in politics in the US in all of our lifetimes. Nothing else has come close to the upset that Trump’s victory was dealt to the Establishment by the public since… well, since ever in the United States.
 
<<
 
#BUY
 
Preach, man.
 
As in 2016, DJT-in-2024 was such an interruptor of the neocon-Permanent-Washington-Obama-adjacent trajectory, which Rodham represented and which Autopen Robinette fulfilled, that it is obvious now how exercised that faction is, just as it was through DJT’s first term, to thwart, undermine, preempt and nullify DJT’s policies, regardless of how grand the policies are or how work-a-day.
 
The inability even to prioritize whether testing a nuclear weapon or building a new ballroom for the White House is worse or better, all things considered, shows that it scarcely matters what DJT does—because everything he does reeks of authoritarianism or is like what Orban would do or what Erdogan would do.
 
Permanent Washington’s megaphone, the corporate media, continually pounds into the public sphere what a dictator DJT is, what a totalitarian strong man he is:  there is no respite; yes, the propaganda saturation is that thick.
 
It’s reminiscent of when VVP argues against NATO expansion to Russia’s doorstep—but Permanent Washington lambastes him mercilessly for rehearsing “grievances,” as if VVP is a bitter Soviet dead-ender who can’t/won’t enter the 21st Century, as if it’s not valid for Russia to have a view, let alone to express one.
 
The treatment DJT receives from the domestic Permanent Washington-aligned media is identical to the treatment VVP recieves:  they have & are Putinizing DJT.   Gotta wonder why.   And please notice—the same energy is fueling both treatments.
 
It is okay to observe this, interrogate it and probe it.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 4 2025 1:58 utc | 69

Posted by: suzan | Nov 4 2025 1:55 utc | 73
 
RE:   (speaking of sex trafficking minors) to what do you attribute this “deep-seated, quite entrenched problem ..in the USA,” granted there are undoubtedly multiple causes?Poverty? — Material? Spiritual?
 
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Anecdotally, the Hoover Criminal Gang, which runs the Blade, as the sex trafficking ring is called on Figueroa Street in South L.A., harvests its minors from foster homes and from the population of runaways it is well-practiced in identifying in U.S. cities large and small.
 
The gang members are criminally-minded, so already they are operating on the underbelly fringes of society in an anti-civic way.
 
The demand for these minors is so strong that the johns quite literally line up patiently, like cars going through a fast food drive-thru, waiting their turn, paying for what they buy and then driving off w/ the minor in question.
 
They call it the oldest profession, sex work.  And the pedophilia element is just a rendition on the oldest profession.  The oldest profession has always had some old pimp organizing business matters behind the scenes.
 
Figueroa Street is not unique, neither is the Epstein set-up, though deployed on a grander scale among elites (and taking place on an island.)  The johns idling in their SUVs, waiting in line in South L.A., are not glamorous jet-setters or world-renown political leaders.  The sheer ordinariness of participating in the trafficking of minors indicates how pervasive a facet this is of routine & typical human existence.
 
Father/daughter incest is a pedophilia-adjacent topic, but someone once told me that during the time when Shakespeare wrote King Lear father/daughter incest was so commonplace in society it was not necessary for the playwright to spell out explicitly why Lear’s daughters had such a lethal rivalry.  The audience would simply know.
 
The taboos we can’t talk about…
 
The taboos we can’t talk about are the ones we can’t solve (and maybe have no interest really in solving.)

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 4 2025 2:24 utc | 70

Does this tie in with his peace negotiations that were neither peaceful or negotiating, sanctions that weren’t carried out,tariffs that weren’t tariffed, narco terrorists that may have been fishermen and ceasefire that were anything but?
Have I missed something?
 

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 4 2025 2:45 utc | 71

Are we saying that Trump only fires blanks? Or that statins bave kept alive tbe gerontokraps and the US is now an AI  artificial insemi Nation?
Trump, or an AI double,  has only got to be synthesised in a virtual studio and any mistakes he makes are  purely the fault of AI?
 
This is reminding me of a Hollywood film I once saw bits of,  where the deformed face of the Christian Emperor was concealed by a silver mask. 
Trump and Netahyahu  and Starmer are generated remotely by AI by Mexican Honchos operating in Golders Green and beamed to their audiences via satellite live streaming.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 4 2025 2:56 utc | 72

 
“The sheer ordinariness of participating in the trafficking of minors indicates how pervasive a facet this is of routine & typical human existence.”
by: steel_porcupine | Nov 4 2025 2:24 utc | 75
 
Conditions, causes and trajectories of human existence are variable. What is routine and typical for some microcultures is not routine and typical for others. 
 
This particular sickness of our society which preys upon our young people has a findable and implementable cure, imo. It is not predestined human nature, so called.
If, as you say, taboos may be at play, then why, in this era of transcending acceptable borders of acceptability, such as they are, are those taboos not openly challenged and defeated by more civilized living?
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: suzan | Nov 4 2025 3:00 utc | 73

Does anyone suspects that the US is better off Balkanised?
 
It is just a whorehouse with nukes masquerading as a nation. 
 
Was Eyes Wide Shut a glimpse into the seedy world of Zionists controlled entertainment industry and Epstein? Maybe Mel Gibson had some truth in his drunken rants. 
Ricky Gervais ripped into the Hollywood crowd with “Oh ! …….and don’t fuck children”.
 
I don’t believe anyone has mentioned the music of Don Hanley, former Eagles and son of a US Admiral who sang about the decay in the US back in the early 80’s. Dirty Laundry-state of legacy media, Johnny Can’t Read-US education system and All She Wants To Do Is Dance-about the utterly clueless people living in hellholes in South America that has come back to roost at back in US of fucking A.
 
And any truth to reports that the Zionist honeytrap Mrs Kirk has made the moves on JD and ensnared the next potential POTUS?
 
 

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 4 2025 3:09 utc | 74

People with nothing substantive to say are often the loudest.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 15:13 utc | 6
And that applies to YOU.
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I’ll take orders from b—no one else.Thanks for your feedback!
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 3 2025 15:58 utc | 15
What about your Sky God? I thought He was your only and supreme commander. B is an infidel, you know. And @james is the nicest person here to SUGGEST, NOT ORDER you, to merely cut back the QUANTITY of your postings. He passed no comment on the subject or quality of your posts, unlike so many here who truly hate your preachy utterances. Yet still you find it in your “kind Islamic heart” to rebuke him. What a reactive tosser you are.
——
 
The hypocrisy and lack of self reflection in this fellow/girl is regularly astounding.  LD posts innumerable trite thought bubble inputs; criticises others for the very same kinds of shit he posts; has one secular philosophy for all things material and another for all things moral; so fkn tedious.

Posted by: Get Real | Nov 4 2025 3:21 utc | 75

[…] As in 2016, DJT-in-2024 was such an interruptor of the neocon-Permanent-Washington-Obama-adjacent trajectory, […]
 
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 4 2025 1:58 utc | 74

 
Was he now. In which universe did that happen? Certainly not in the one I am living in, where Trump in his first term surrounded himself with neocon deep state legends like Mike Pompeo, his Sec of State, torture queen Haspel his CIA chief, regime change addict John Bolton his security advisor, ultra-hardliner Nikki Haley the UN ambassador, and on it goes.
 
He bragged about having been the U.S. president who started handing lethal aid to Ukrop nazis, imposed sanctions on Russia, and had his first go at destroying Venezuela with economic sanctions and financial strangulation, giving us Juan Guaidó. He trashed the JCPOA and his subsequent “maximum pressure” campaign of severe sanctions was a classic neocon strategy aimed at crippling the Iran, topping it off with his assassination of Soleimani, celebrated across neocon land. He continued the illegal occupation and theft of Syrian resources, ordered special operations raids in countries like Somalia and Yemen, and deployed more troops to Afghanistan in 2017, contradicting his campaign rhetoric. And natch, as a true neocon at heart, pumped up the already insanely high military budget. Which of those actions was the deep state upset about?
 
He may have had some disruptive instincts, but in the end always conformed to the deeply entrenched, bipartisan norms and policy preferences of the U.S. national security bureaucracy.
 
His second term so far has been nothing short of a deep state extravaganza. If the “deep state” is code for ‘those powers and hawks who dictate foreign policy regardless of which party wins elections’, then you can’t get more deepish than DJT 2024. Entirely bought by and obedient to the genocidal lobby, his cabinet 100% made up of fellow neocons and Israel firsters. Most decisions he has taken in the months since January could be copied of Lindsay Graham or Rubio’s wish list. In other words the deep state’s decree of continuing every attempt at full spectrum dominance and unwavering support for the zionist cause.
 
Again bombing Iran, again having a go at Venezuela, again fellating Israeli dicks, again increasing the military budget, again tax cuts for the billionaires, in essence a repeat of his first term, right down to breaking most of his election promises.
 
He is as much an interruptor of the neocon-Permanent-Washington trajectory as Obama was. That both of these lying sacks of shit still have their fandom is not good. Believe me, not good.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Nov 4 2025 3:29 utc | 76

Get Real 80
 
I sense your pain, when you life is so shallow that the only job you can do is couch  potato for Israel . What do they pay? Probably good money, freshly QE d to keep grandpa US in diapers for a few more hours before its inner contradictions sink it like Atlantis.
 
I’m ready for the Tsunami when you fall into your stinkhole.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 4 2025 3:49 utc | 77

Posted by: Juan Moment | Nov 4 2025 3:29 utc | 81
 
#######
 
I have found that many Americans at the bar, even those who are not Trump fans, are in a state of denial about what America does in the world and what it means for the future of the Republic.
 
They either don’t want to know or they don’t care.
 
They eat up the lies and rationalizations gladly.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 3:49 utc | 78

@ suzan | Nov 4 2025 3:00 utc | 78
 
it gets passed off as ”normal or acceptable” but it isn’t… it is the opposite of anything meaningful or fulfilling..   these are the same folks that like to hide behind their attachment to the evangelical crowd/vote too which is especially hypocritical, as if they had a religious or moral / ethical bone in their body — they don’t… all praise the god of mammon – money..   that is their one god.. until our leaders aspire to something higher then that, it will be love for sale and a whole lot more decadence where that came from.. 
 
thanks for asking for a better ideal for us to rise towards suzan… i appreciate your participation here.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 4:29 utc | 79

@84 LoveDonbass
 
“I have found that many Americans at the bar, even those who are not Trump fans, are in a state of denial about what America does in the world and what it means for the future of the Republic.”
 
Very much an understatement.  The delusions of US republican are a bit different than the delusions of US democrats.  But it leads to the same place.  Someone from the deep state said something like “We’ll know we have won when everything that Americans believe is a lie.” .  They have won.

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 4 2025 5:34 utc | 80

I have found that many Americans at the bar, even those who are not Trump fans, are in a state of denial about what America does in the world and what it means for the future of the Republic. They either don’t want to know or they don’t care. They eat up the lies and rationalizations gladly.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 3:49 utc | 84

 
True. At least to some extent. Some of the most well informed and ardent critics of U.S. conduct I’ve encountered over the years at MoA, equally scathing of both parties and all presidents, were American themselves. But as a rule I think you are not far off. Many have a partisan mindset, reflexively portraying the party or candidate they voted for as the lesser of the two evils, when in reality they again voted for evil.
 
Mind you, its not an exclusively American trait, same can be said about say Germans, or Australians, or any other nationality for that matter. Its human nature for people to praise their chosen politician, not necessarily because they can’t see their fuck ups and flaws, but because acknowledging them threatens their self-image, their worldview, and maybe even their social belonging. Most of us see ourselves as an informed, rational voter who supports the right person. When that politician then inevitably turns out to be lying sack of shit or behaves like a knob, it creates cognitive dissonance, ie ‘I’m a smart person’ vs. ‘I voted for someone who’s doing a shit job’. And so, naturally, people unconsciously downplay or rationalize the politician’s failures, convincing themselves the media is exaggerating, or they had no choice, or the old chestnut ‘hey, all politicians are flawed’.
 
Add to that the reality of people tending to process information in ways that confirm what they already believe and dismiss information that threatens those beliefs, and you got a recipe for self-delusion. And frankly LD, you and I aren’t immune to that either.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Nov 4 2025 5:39 utc | 81

Should be remembered that very recently, Putin said a certain unnamed country was preparing a nuclear test. Trumps ambiguous statement may either be an admission that it was the US, which Putin was referring to, or conversely, meant as diplomatic cover for another country — preparing the ground, so to speak, for another country to do this — Israel, England, France, all seem the most likely candidates. 
Posted by: Nothingburgers | Nov 3 2025 17:50 utc | 30
You forgot the most obvious one…as a new member of the nuclear alliance…Iran!.
Perhaps they’ve finally learned their lesson and realized that nuclear bombs are the best protection against the USA..
Look at North Korea, and yes, look at Israel too…why do you think all the Arab states are keeping quiet about Israel?.
The tiny country of Israel probably couldn’t get away with a lot of things WITHOUT nuclear weapons in its stockpiles, even if Israel has never officially stated this. Which has the advantage for them: NO inspections, no one asking any loud questions.

Posted by: Genesis | Nov 4 2025 5:40 utc | 82

Oh William Gruff, I have heard it before, and I agree and even said it previously in other fora: the system fomented enough hatred that its gathering storm of dissatisfaction created its own destroyer — a la Ghostbusters, Gozer lets you imagine your choice of self-destruction. By tampering with 2016 Republican primary, as Trump was tapped beforehand to disrupt that internal primary, the schemers forgot how venal and petty narcissists can be. Once Hillary got tired of Trump she became catty and dismissive of Trump, offending his pride, and that was it — Trump decided to ride the MechaGodzilla for all its worth into the White House.
 
 
And then stupid on all sides was doubled down: they tried to corral Trump and sabotage his administration and dive into lawfare to make a good example of him. 
 
 
And then the magic of spite erupted again and stupid was tripled down: everyone is trying to corral Trump and pass through as much backdoor bullshit as they can (Miriam Addleson’s Trojan Horse of Marco Rubio, now wearing multiple secretarial hats) while passing this of as a real conflict of power.
 
 
That’s the problem, the attempt to corral Trump (again) is a show, and the backdoor bullshit (again) is the other show, and Trump makes a virtuoso performance of attracting further attention as a savior-martyr-villain. Watching the show, and critiquing its performance, as if it accomplishes something is the problem. Stop pinning your hopes on distractions, the supposed elite in-fighting is nowhere as valuable as you believe. Further it wastes real time needed by the people to gum up the doomsday machine, call it the nuclear escalatory ladder, the salami slicer to armageddon, whatever.
 
 
Picking nits or scrying deeper motives within elite politics commentary that won’t matter in a month’s time is the problem. There’s real civics agitation work to do, everywhere, globally, because the stakes are that high. Stuck in cynicism, pointing fingers, and gleeful sneering helps no one improve the situation.
 
 
The first step is to look away from the show and assess one’s dangerous situation. The second is to look around and find like minds similarly aware, make common cause regardless because we’re all in danger. Third is to sound the alarm and disrupt the soporific performance, to awaken others from their haze. Fourth is to douse out what you can nearby as you can. 🙂 It just might avert stumbling towards nuclear midnight (again).

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 4 2025 6:03 utc | 83

Does anyone else suspect that LiveDumbarse and Giyane are in fact the same person? Whenever someone sticks it to LD, shortly afterwards Giyane jumps in to his defense with insults towards LD’s accusers. LD says he’s above personal insults and always plays the holier than thou. But his alter ago Giyane so often pops up to do his dirty work. He also does LD’s unashamed Islamic proselytising. Such a nasty pair — if not just one schizoid troll. Giyane accuses me of being a paid hasbara American. Lmfao. 

Posted by: Get Real | Nov 4 2025 11:22 utc | 84

Posted by: Get Real | Nov 4 2025 11:22 utc | 84
 
Yeah I have my suspicions too- they both claim to be devout Muslims but both don’t really know  the basics of the religion ;  as well- Cloud of Alabama I think might   be another sock puppet’ of the infamous LoveDumbass.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 4 2025 11:58 utc | 85

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 4 2025 6:03 utc | 83
 
An admirable post, thanks.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 4 2025 12:00 utc | 86

What about your [LoveDonbass] Sky God? I thought He was your only and supreme commander. B is an infidel, you know. And @james is the nicest person here to SUGGEST, NOT ORDER you, to merely cut back the QUANTITY of your postings. He passed no comment on the subject or quality of your posts, unlike so many here who truly hate your preachy utterances. Yet still you find it in your “kind Islamic heart” to rebuke him. What a reactive tosser you are.
—— The hypocrisy and lack of self reflection in this fellow/girl is regularly astounding.  LD posts innumerable trite thought bubble inputs; criticises others for the very same kinds of shit he posts; has one secular philosophy for all things material and another for all things moral; so fkn tedious.
 
Posted by: Get Real | Nov 4 2025 3:21 utc | 75
 
I have to admit I’m not as moderate as James as I belong this club-“unlike so many here who truly hate your preachy utterances.”
 
LB is a fake Muslim, a fake philosopher, a Master Sockpuppeter, as well as you describe, a  mind blowing “fucking tedious” chronic poster.
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 4 2025 12:08 utc | 87

Just a side note:.
Sheikh Tamir reports
Russia is already supplying weapons to Venezuela and sees no obstacles to delivering the Oreshnik system, stated Alexei Zhuravlev, First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma’s Defense Committee.
“Russia is one of Venezuela’s most important military-technical partners; we supply the country with virtually the entire spectrum of weapons, from small arms to aircraft. Information about the quantities and exact types of goods imported from Russia is classified, so the Americans might be in for some surprises. I also see no obstacles to delivering new developments like the Oreshnik system or, for example, the proven Kalibr system to our friendly country. At least there are no international obligations preventing Russia from doing so,”Zhuravlev said.
He reported that an Il-76 recently delivered Pantsir-S1 and Buk-M2E systems and S400 missiles to Caracas.

Posted by: Genesis | Nov 4 2025 12:58 utc | 88

Such confusion, see  top post, aka flip-flopping, is typical of the Trump Admin.  Ex. sending Tomahawk missiles to UKR, it is on, Trumpy talks to Vladimir, it is off, then it is on again, then maybe not, then on, etc.
 
The EU can buy arms from the US, then it is up to them to do what they want (negating NATO, another topic), and maybe it could be, whatever, etc., does that include Tomahawks?
 
From today, Nov 3 – 4, it is back to NO Tomahawks.
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trump-says-no-tomahawks-ukraine-now-2025-11-03/
 
Note the ‘for now.’  Some military experts / pundits (Idk anything about these arms,  just from MSM and other commentary) write that either these missiles don’t work well / aren’t a ‘game changer’ / are no use  / aren’t available –  produced to send over in sufficient numbers / can’t save Ukraine / can’t be sent where needed / won’t be paid for, too expensive / crappy / and more…
 
All boils down to *Theatrics* with one hesitant step forward, then another step backwards, then whatever,  all seems trivial compared to what is actually happening on the ground in UKR. 
 
The Tomahawk was a hand axe of Native American Tribes, served as defense, was used against ‘settlers’, and for ceremonial purposes. They lost.  Big Time.

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 4 2025 15:55 utc | 89

Love is very good on the Zionazis and Ukraine.  I enjoy many of his comments. 
Philosophically I think he’s lost in the middle ages and he seems willfully blind to social class.  In his view there are no wage slaves, just abstract “Americans” or “westerners” all uniformly evil, and yet he knows this is false.  
So, yeah, I don’t agree with him on a number of critical issues.  Nonetheless, this place prides itself on free thought and speech.  So, Love has every right to promote his view and we have the right to critique it.  
Let him do his thing and then trash him if you disagree, but the whole torches and pitchforks thing for such a consistent critic of Israel and US Imperialism is a bridge too far.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 4 2025 15:56 utc | 90

“Stop pinning your hopes on distractions, the supposed elite in-fighting is nowhere as valuable as you believe. ”
Disagree.  There is nothing more valuable to the slaves than a fight between the masters.  The inter Imperialist rivalry in the US has succeeded in exposing the true face of both official parties which are now almost universally reviled by the working class of the US.  Both are fatally weak, more so than at any point in 40 years or more.  Yes, there are still stooges supporting one side or the other, but they have lost the argument.  The spell of Imperialism is well and truly broken in the US and beyond.  
But as you say, the real question is how to exploit all of this.  What is to be done?  It’s a question that is rarely raised and when raised is almost always ignored or ridiculed.  The group of people that put a real plan in action to undermine and overthrow the Imperialists within the West will inherit the earth.  
And yes, the response will be: that’s what Russia and China are doing.  Yes, they are in their own countries like the reliable nationalists they are.  That leaves the entire western world with a power vacuum which if not filled by an organization of its domestic victims will lead to the complete destruction of everyone in the West Imperialist or not, good and evil.  Russia and China have no Comintern to come orient and aid the workers of the West in their struggle.  We are on our own.  
 

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 4 2025 16:14 utc | 91

Very much an understatement. The delusions of US republican are a bit different than the delusions of US democrats. But it leads to the same place. Someone from the deep state said something like “We’ll know we have won when everything that Americans believe is a lie.” . They have won.
 
Posted by: Woke American | Nov 4 2025 5:34 utc | 80
 
To declare they have one at this point of history, when Imperialism is collapsing in real time, is to declare your absolute historical ignorance.  Read more.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 4 2025 16:17 utc | 92

Very much an understatement. The delusions of US republican are a bit different than the delusions of US democrats. But it leads to the same place. Someone from the deep state said something like “We’ll know we have won when everything that Americans believe is a lie.” . They have won.
 
Posted by: Woke American | Nov 4 2025 5:34 utc | 80
 
To declare they have one at this point of history, when Imperialism is collapsing in real time, is to declare your absolute historical ignorance.  Read more.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 4 2025 16:18 utc | 93

🙂 Thanks everyone for indulging me in my frustration. Yes, I have lost patience with the melodrama that is the current events he-said, she-said show. After a year full of blatant rug pulls from this administration, I think entertaining the “benefit of the doubt” credit card has been fully maxed out and barely the minimum payments made.
 
 
I think there is a fine line between naïveté (the lack of experience, wisdom, judgment) and hope (aspiration in a better future), just as there is in cynicism (expectation of personal self-interest winning out on average, of corruption of ideals) and despair (the absence of aspiration in a better future): the direct look at the present versus the look upon the future. We hurt ourselves by pushing each other away and diminishing our value in our own garden. Now, if that sounds like some kumbaya crap, sorry to disappoint being a hippy dippy wee creature of the enchanted forest. 😉
 
 
But we have real problems. And our host has granted us an opportunity in a mixed company of like non-ensorcelled current event followers. It is a “think tank” in its own way. And it is an opportunity to brainstorm where best to push the civics buttons to make a better future. A bar is a good place to grouse and whinge, but it is also more than that, and to get lost in that escapism alone is a tragic waste.
 
 
(As for calls to revolution… I am aware of current events, the state of Germany & EU, and have no interest in bringing the boom upon b or anyone else here from frustrations leading to calls of violence, even accidentally. The world is filled with enough violence already. I think we can do better by not losing ourselves to a worse nature needlessly. To dabble in one’s internal abyss is to ask for a battle I don’t believe most of us are ready for, because one cannot come out of it deeply unchanged, more likely further disillusioned. Wrestle with the angels at the gates of subconsciousness at your peril.)
 
 
I poo-poohed on everyone’s fun on this topic, and for that I apologize. 🙁 I’ll go back being a silly forest creature visiting the beer garden. My hope is in the face of such serious things MoA can be a force for positive change in at least steps 2 through 4. We have greater mutual enemies than each other, such as the firestorms of current events. 🙂 Maybe we can at least help each other and those nearby as best as we may reach (in its multiple sense of meaning, be it mental, emotional, social, physical, spiritual, etc.).

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 4 2025 17:00 utc | 94

It has been reported that Dick Cheney has returned to his dark master’s lair…from which he sprung.  The man was a wellspring of evil, the world would have been a better place had he not lived among us.   I sincerely hope the undertaker has taken the proper internment precautions…silver-cross, wooden-stake et al

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 4 2025 17:11 utc | 95

Philosophically I think he’s lost in the middle ages and he seems willfully blind to social class. In his view there are no wage slaves, just abstract “Americans” or “westerners” all uniformly evil, and yet he knows this is false.
 
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 4 2025 15:56 utc | 90
 
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I am not willfully blind. I don’t believe in bullshit, no matter how many people do or how deep their convictions about nonsense is.
 
If class theory had any truth value, I would embrace and employ it. I truly have no sacred cows.
 
Sadly, it does not.
 
It is illogical and falsifiable.
 
If a person is a slave and wants to be free, are they demonstrating any of the actions of resistance?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 17:27 utc | 96

It is illogical and falsifiable.
 
If a person is a slave and wants to be free, are they demonstrating any of the actions of resistance?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 17:27 utc | 96
Please demonstrate.  
 
 

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 4 2025 17:32 utc | 97

Yes, please demonstrate. 

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 4 2025 17:38 utc | 98

“I am not willfully blind. I don’t believe in bullshit, no matter how many people do or how deep their convictions about nonsense is. I truly have no sacred cows. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 17:27 utc | 96
That’s a great position to start with, even better if you stick to it. So, the creator of the entire universe wants people to get on their knees, lean forward, and bang their foreheads on the floor five times a day… and you know that’s true because someone flew to heaven on a winged horse and spoke to the deity in person and told you so… and that’s not nonsense?? As I see it, everything derived and related to the deity Moses made up is pure nonsense. If I was forced to choose between the two, I’d have to pick the sacred cows of another nonsense mythology that was invented to justify slavery of out-castes. I wish you’d take a long hard skeptical look at your own delusions.

Posted by: Dalit | Nov 4 2025 17:47 utc | 99

Born as a worker, and a worker until they die. Young, old, tall, short, smart, dumb. They are all workers, no matter what, and at the mercy of a social phenomenon that is a “theory”. Theories once proven become laws. It’s not the Law of Classes. It is the theory of classes, like the Big Bang is a theory. Not a “fact”.
 
And as to falsification, Western class theory (Jewish theory about goys) isn’t consistent in every culture, at every time in history.
 
If it were true, like the Law of Gravity, then it would always be in effect, regardless of temperature or geography. Gravity is the same everywhere at all times and in basically the same magnitude. The same is true of the Laws of Thermodynamics. They don’t change in Europe versus in Africa.
 
Don’t get me started on the thousands (millions) of examples of economic mobility…
 
How does one explain hundreds of millions of Chinese leaving poverty to become the most advanced society in human history in 60 years?
 
What happened to class theory? How have those peasants managed to become Taikonauts and designers of flying cars? I thought their class was immutable…
 
99% of my thinking involves turning an idea, supposition, or premise upside down to see if it is still what it claims to be.
 
Not examining ideas and concepts is a waste of the human mind, IMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 17:54 utc | 100

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