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November 2, 2025
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2025-254

Last week’s posts on Moon of Alabama:

> We calculate that Ukraine will need approximately $389bn in cash and arms over the four years from 2026 to 2029 (for consistency we are using dollars and constant prices throughout), mainly from Europe. That is almost double the roughly $206bn that Europe has supplied since just before the war started in February 2022. <


Other issues:

Gaza:

AI-Financing:

Tariffs:

The Fall of NASA:

Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

Comments

The UK is declining in fossil fuel energy production, not due to lack of resources or engineers, but because the UK is actively legislating against fossil fuels. This anti-fossil fuel direction of UK society and government is directly an outcome of higher education; the level of fervor against fossil fuels is very closely aligned with level of education.So is education to blame? lol
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 3 2025 17:14 utc | 194
Well that is a small part of the problem – and ‘climate change’ is the favourite Get Out of Jail Free card for our incompetent and diffident political class.
However, the problems go back to the neo-liberal experiment of Thatcher (she was an early adopter) who privatised the necessities of life (water, gas, electricity), actively shutdown coal, steel and other commodity products required as the basis of a self-respecting, sovereign industrial economy and turned as much as possible over to the mercies of the free market, preferably with the involvement of the FIRE sector.
Result: everything is shit (dilapidated and inadequate), expensive and doesn’t work.
Sound familiar?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 3 2025 20:17 utc | 201

My mate reckons I’ll start a blacksmith shop in the fires of hell.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 3 2025 11:17 utc | 140
 
Heh, that brought to mind some dark humour I came across some time ago, suggesting George Soros wouldn’t be allowed into hell, in case he tried to mount a takeover bid…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 3 2025 20:20 utc | 202

@ ChatNPC | Nov 3 2025 20:17 utc | 202
 
And it is still going on in much of the country, the replacement of once-viable manufacturing and industrial facilities with FIRE-based “redevelopment”, mainly housing (much of which is being purchased by absentee landlords) and shopping malls (also with a major rental component), plus some customer call centres, warehouses and server farms; not the stuff to build a war-fighting economy with.
 
Every time our self-declared “great and good” strut and preen about taking on Russia militarily, I just look at the number of military facilities and bases that have been closed down and sold off, mainly for the above-mentioned types of development, since, say, 1990. The former military town of Bicester is a casebook example of this.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 3 2025 20:31 utc | 203

The former military town of Bicester is a casebook example of this.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 3 2025 20:31 utc | 204
I know, its the same everywhere. Luxury flats, shopping malls (both now with many empty units). vape shops and Turkish barbers (for some reason, some say money laundering).
I’m still cringing from the time David (now Lord) Cameron showcased Bicester Shopping Village to Xi Jinping. Imagine flying all that way to see the shelves groaning with stuff made in China. Lol.
Still, he got a pint of beer in a fake Olde English Pub (TM).

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 3 2025 20:41 utc | 204

DDG: From Caribbean Buildup to Nigerian Threats – America on the Edge
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8aOhc7KM5I
 
“This week we trace the expanding fault lines of American power – from the Caribbean buildup and Trump’s threats against Nigeria to the quiet militarization of Washington’s political class.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 3 2025 21:07 utc | 205

@ChatNPC #202
While privatization of public utilities is absolutely a problem – it is not the problem with UK energy ie UK fossil fuels.
There are innumerable ways to prevent fossil fuel development starting with public sentiment, on to leases and permits, and onwards to a wide variety of market skewing mechanisms such as subsidies for competitors, discriminatory regulation, etc etc.
In California, for example, you need a permit to do any kind of drilling whether for oil, for CO2 capture, for geothermal etc.
Prior to Gavin Newsome coming in to office, annually about 3000 permits were issued by the state.
In Newsome’s first year (2019), this fell to 2400.
And now? dozens.
This is one example of how it works.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 3 2025 21:58 utc | 206

You don’t fix this overnight, and you don’t fix this by replicating the same approaches as China used –
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 3 2025 17:01 utc | 190
 
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I agree: The problems in, and of, the West cannot be fixed overnight.
 
Could you summarize what you see as the approaches used by China, and why they can’t, couldn’t, or shouldn’t be used by the West to replicate the success of China?

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 3 2025 23:03 utc | 207

persiflo | Nov 3 2025 14:55 utc | 177
 
I had a mate who was a crop duster pilot. Fully loaded with fertilizer, he had to fly in ground effect until getting rid of some of the load. Would fly under power lines instead of over. I think he got caught in a narrow rising valley one time and had to put it down.
 
But anyway he wanted to come up and see me, and he had a couple of mates wanted to come up pig hunting so they all chipped in and hired a Cessna for a week. While his mates were playing Rambo in the creek, we would go up flying. This was before I had learnt to fly. Eldest daughter liked flying to so she would get in the back seat.
We would have bit of a look around but once in the air he would pass the control to me. If we saw some goats, he’d take over and we would go in and buzz them a few times. One day, coming back in, he told me to have a go at landing. I came in with a bounce and bounced from one wheel to the other down the strip. He would just sit there quite relaxed with arms folded and hands nowhere near the controls. We were doing what is called touch and goes. Touch down and before pulling to a stop, open the throttle and take off again. When I had bounced most of the way down the strip, he would take over and take off again. I think the first time after taking off he gave the controls back to me and said to turn around and give it another go. I started a mild banking turn, but then he said ‘I’ve got’ it and he what I think is called a P turn. Just pulled the nose up, jammed one rudder peddle right down and we were pointed back at the strip. So we did that for awhile. I would bounce along the strip, and then he would do the P turn to set me up for another landing attempt. I think we were doing that for about 15 or 20 minutes when I suddenly remembered my daughter in the back seat. There had not been a peep out of her and I had forgotten she was there.
She was white as a sheet and looked like she had been drugged. We landed pretty quick and got her out onto solid ground. She ended up getting her private pilots licence when in her twenties, but shortly after obtaining it, stopped flying altogether.
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 3 2025 23:13 utc | 208

Thinking about the flying – Canada, a lot of rough country there, a lot of country those bush pilots fly over and absolutely nowhere to land of the engine stops. Just trees and mountainous terrain.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 3 2025 23:21 utc | 209

This anti-fossil fuel direction of UK society and government is directly an outcome of higher education; the level of fervor against fossil fuels is very closely aligned with level of education.So is education to blame? lol
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 3 2025 17:14 utc | 194
 
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I presume you are serious?
 
The “level of education” can also be blamed for increased life expectancy, decreased infant mortality, decreased (sustainable) birthrate, improved living standards, decrease in poverty… I’m sure you can think of at least one more positive outcome.
 
Should we forego all the advantages of education just so we can enthusiastically pursue the consumption of fossil fuels? Or should we instead ensure that all participants in any education program exit with the firm understanding that the unbridled consumption of fossil fuels is the answer to all problems?
 
Without getting too coy about reserves of fossil fuels and associated consumption rates, I’m guessing that we can agree that we live in a finite world? That being the case, at some point in the future when reality and the finite world intersect, what do you think will be our energy source(s) when fossil and nuclear sources are exhausted? Should we start planning/preparing?
 
Maybe it is too hard. Maybe we should just be crickets in the sun, chirping away merrily, and leave the problem to our great-great—grandchildren…

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 3 2025 23:26 utc | 210

c1ue | Nov 3 2025 17:01 utc | 190
You are right on that. I was thinking about the number per capita of STEM graduates the likes of Russia, China and Iran turn out. What disappears with higher education in the west? Critical thinking?
 
I was think about peak America when stuff was actually designed and built in the US, generally on time and on budget. There will be other things but I look at the SR-71 blackbird as peak America. Built for the CIA, the first delivered in 1966. Those for the CIA were called the  A-12. The pentagon started purchasing so in 1970 and those were known as the SR-71
 
Then the US ran out of gold and created the petro-dollar. I think it is around that time, moving from gold to the petro-dollar that the US began to change into what is now little more than a giant economic ponzi scheme

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 3 2025 23:37 utc | 211

GE Report: Ben Norton
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKF-jrrv5yA
 
“The world opposes the US terror war on Latin America.”
 
 
RNN: The Great Caribbean Betrayal
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRxmNWYfIiQ
 
“Grenada then, Venezuela now. In this RNN Live, we break down how the Caribbean’s betrayal of Grenada set the stage for today’s political and economic subservience to US interests…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 3 2025 23:43 utc | 212

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 3 2025 23:37 utc | 212
Perhaps the raw numbers, even per capita don’t tell the full story.
Maybe quality also counts, and that quality is a function of prior education in the school system and the quality of the university system.
I would argue that the quality of both has been declining in both areas for many years.
School education has become about getting good exam grades (for the school) and thus teaching to a syllabus, rather than to any level of competence let alone being able to think beyond what is immediately required.
University education has become a holding pen for youth unemployment as well as a means of selling debt to students. Both require maximum occupancy and maximum number of successful graduates. The subjects studied don’t really matter, but ‘easier’ subjects are preferred over difficult and/or expensive courses like STEM.
Certainly in the UK education has been reduced to the question of ‘how can we make a profit educating the gardener’s children?’

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 3 2025 23:56 utc | 213

Do you call SpaceX “a small engineering workshop”?
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 3 2025 17:01 utc | 190
 
Musks SpaceX and Starlink are the one standout in the US. I think Tesla is Musk, but with the other two he is a Pentagon front. He does have the ability to pull the right people together but I always wondered where he required the STEM to make those rockets work. Turned out he and the Pentagon required the old Soviet design Bureau in 2014 that according to the Russians consisted of about 4,500 highly educated and trained people. That’s a lot of brainpower suddenly on board.
 
They had been contracting for the Russian space agency prior to 2014, but were likely contracting to SpaceX as well in that time.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 0:00 utc | 214

Required – acquired. This yandex spell checker is as bad as me.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 0:35 utc | 215

@General Factotum #208
General approaches used by China:
1) Massive, historically unprecedented printing of money
China has printed at least $40 trillion during its buildup. This is roughly 12000% of its 1984 GDP. The West cannot even remotely do this.
2) Assisted offshoring of US and, to a lesser extent, European manufacturing.
China won’t be assisting
3) Decadal planning combined with provincial (US equivalent = state level) “survival of the fittest”.
The CPC clearly retains control and provides direction for specific areas such as rare earth processing, oil refining, solar PV and wind turbines, etc etc.
These are not chosen at random – they are strategic choices which address China’s economic weak points or serve as escalation dominance fodder in case of trade wars.
We have seen the rare earths already this year.
The refining – China has 200% refining capacity vs. what it would need for internal use. This extra refining capacity plays out in almost all of Asia depending on China for refining – which causes an oil war on China to hurt everybody around them, too. A nice way to “make” friends.
Solar PV and wind turbines: while China has use for solar PV and wind because it is one way of converting coal to electricity – the higher goal is to cause Western economies to lose their sanity and believe in Net Zero. While this is producing the most obvious fruit in Europe’s multi-decadal de-industrialization, the actual impact is on the US. The US is a fossil fuel superpower: oil, natural gas and coal all together. Yet a large percentage of US states have chosen to go all-in on solar PV and wind despite it driving up electricity costs and driving down grid reliability. Win Win, as they say.
Another is consumer electronics: Huawei, Haier and a number of other gigantic, nation spanning conglomerates.
There are certainly other areas – we don’t know what they are yet but I am 100% sure they exist.
The “survival of the fittest” algorithm is province based. Unlike US states or present EU member nations, the provinces in China are able to print money. The CPC must have some kind of control over this in general, but this ability to print money is why you see ghost cities, mounds of electric scooters etc etc – each province has chosen its own unique mix of subsidized industries by which said province believes it can meet the economic progress goals set by the CPC’s master plans. Note these are outside of the CPC specific strategic economic goals.
Which brings us to:
4) Low starting labor cost base, high starting general education base but also a giant pool of rural labor – uprooted by consolidation into more modern farming practices along with mass urbanization.
China’s urbanization in 1984 was around 22%. It is now 67%, give or take. That comes out to around 770 million people moving from rural areas into urban areas.
How’s that for a work force and economic impetus to work hard?
None of these 4 factors is remotely replicable by the US or Europe.
Note that none of this detracts from the amazing job that the CPC has delivered on. The above could easily describe India or Pakistan or Brazil or any number of other nations – only China has pulled it off the date.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 0:36 utc | 216

I guess this is sufficiently OT to go here but I decided to get around to watching Nick Fuentes on Tucker Carlson’s show, I’m sure that at least Nemesis Calling has seen it. I have to sat it wasn’t what I expected – not as much of a Damascene conversion as with Candace Owens. 
He did spend a lot of time how even as a nobody minor MAGA commentator he got smeared as an anti-Semite just for asking apparently genuinely innocent questions about US support for Israel. That was quite interesting, especially as he was very naive and carried on asking the more he got told to shut up. Some other ideas he has were quite perceptive, but, as is so often the case for the young, he is very black and white and not yet sophisticated enough in his thinking. 
Tucker seemed very much the elder America Firster, reaching out to get Feuntes into the tent, pissing outwards, rather than inwards on the other more timorous AF dissidents (i.e. not Israel First) like Candace, Carlson, MTG and lately Bannon.
 
Anyhoo, it seems to have upset the MAGA media crowd. In particular Mark Levin (a nasty piece of work) has vowed to have them cancelled from their platforms and to have them all disavowed as Hamas-supporting, commie, Nazi (I know) anti-Semites.
AA sets it out here.
Let’s hope none of them get cancelled Charlie Kirk stylee.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 4 2025 0:36 utc | 217

Earlier I put in a comment on evolution not being possible in the US due to political climate so it must be revolution.
 
I think there is now a large faction in the US, not the peasants but amongst the people of influence that knows America must change. I think this really only formed up and solidified after the failure of the southern offensive towards Crimea.
 
Revolution tends to plumb the depths. China – From the time of the defeat of the ROC government till Mao’s death was revolution China. The leadership that came to power after Mao’s death was and still is post revolution China.
 
Post revolution China is quite different from both Pre revolution and revolution China.
 
Russia – The Russian empire, the Soviet Union, The Russian federation. Two revolutions. The Soviet Union never really broke out of revolution mindset so a second revolution was required to end the first revolution. The Russian 90’s, that was revolution Russia. Putin emerged as the post revolution leader.
 
For the US, it will be different again. Although it comes in the colours of armed robbery devoid of fig leaves (oil anyone?), I think what we are seeing is the beginning of revolution America. I suspect this is what the Russian and Chinese leaderships are also seeing. Their countries have been there, done that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 0:57 utc | 218

Thanks for the replies on breathing.
james, may be interested in the writings of Thich Nhat Hanh. He is a Buddhist priest with many books to his name.
His description of washing dishes while concentrating on your breath is priceless.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2025 1:18 utc | 219

c1ue | Nov 4 2025 0:36 utc | 217
 
There were aspects of your comment I little or nothing about but in full agreement on the aspects I know about.
 
I was thinking on China’s ability to print money. In the US, it is printed on faith alone as the international trade currency.
 
In China, it seems to be printed on the bricks and mortar of its infrastructure which is the backbone, the foundation of China’s rise to prosperity. As the infrastructure and economy grows, more money is require within the quickly growing economy.
 
Western media likes to write doom and gloom about Chinese debt, but I don’t think you are doing that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 1:21 utc | 220

@ Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2025 1:18 utc | 221
 
thanks sakineh.. i have read many of Thich Nhat Hanh’s books.. sometimes some of the ideas seep more deeply into my consciousness then others..i vaguely recall the passage you mention in one of his books… 

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 1:25 utc | 221

Ahenobarbus and c1ue, thank you for your service.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 4 2025 1:36 utc | 222

Putin emerged as the post revolution leader. 
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 0:57 utc | 219
 
Good observations, Peter; except I like to think of President Putin as the revolution. He came on the scene during the depths of the collapse, he emerged before the revolution as a prospective leader, he galvanised and united the nation and led the revolution, and is now established as the post-revolution leader. 
 
I think he sees this as a work in progress, and his task is not yet complete. 
 
I am waiting for the day when he is formally referred to as Vladimir The Great.

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 1:37 utc | 223

And Peter AU1 too, of course. Thank you.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 4 2025 1:37 utc | 224

General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 1:37 utc | 226
 
I guess in my way of thinking, he had a vision for post revolution Russia. What he has started, I think will continue for many generations of Russian leadership. It is a name that will be in the history books of the future.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 1:40 utc | 225

The communist majesty of Marx and Engles. A theory. The communist revolutions of Russia and China tested that theory. Revolution phase that theory was followed. Post revolution, the aspects that worked were kept, the aspects that did not work were discarded.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 1:46 utc | 226

…communist manifesto…

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 1:50 utc | 227

Hudson some years ago talked about two to three decades of turbulence. I disbelieved it at the time. Russia is gearing up for an extended period of turbulence in the world.
 
Since WWII, US emerged as, and is the cornerstone, the mainstay the foundation of what is now termed the west. The US is now entering into a revolution phase and it is likely to last the two or three decades Hudson spoke about.
 
What will emerge at the other side of the American revolution phase is anybody’s guess.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 2:30 utc | 228

The Russian nuclear wave. One aspect of that puzzled me for quite some time. Why not just whack them with an overhead thermonuke?
The rats have their ratholes. Only requires a few minutes early warning and the rats will scurry into the ratholes closing the nuclear blast dors behind them.
 
The first was a converted Oscar, so I thought it was just a one of, but instead the Russians have developed a new class. Each carry six torpedoes. I believe if used, each sup will fire its torpedoes in a salvo – one after the the other, set to fan out and perhaps arrive at detonation location at the same time. That would create an immense wave the will scour the ground to monolithic bedrock, washing away entranceways and blast doors then flooding the rat holes of the elite. A destiny the western elite cannot escape from if they try attacking Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 3:16 utc | 229

1) Massive, historically unprecedented printing of moneyChina has printed at least $40 trillion during its buildup. This is roughly 12000% of its 1984 GDP. The West cannot even remotely do this.
 
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 0:36 utc | 217
 
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Thanks for your considered and detailed response. I read your point  1), and felt uncomfortable. I had not previously seen any quantitative claims regarding money printing. So I’ll fly blind, document my journey, and see where it goes.
 
First observation: 12,000% seems a very big number, while a factor of 120 is nowhere near as scary.
 
Second thought: I knew China has had large and sustained growth, but I had no figures in my head. Statista has a plot of China GDP at current prices since 1985. Through sheer laziness I chose a comparison of 1985 to 2025, a nice round 40 years to make my mental arithmetic easier.
 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263770/gross-domestic-product-gdp-of-china/?srsltid=AfmBOoohno_aooQaLtLEnqgA6XpJvPwJWiI5lRMP1bBUAZFRAYc4mha5
 
Still feeling like my sap is rising, I’m going to try a table :
 
YEAR          CHINA GDP (CURRENT DOLLARS, BILLIONS)
1985                310
1990                387
1995                737
2000            1,220
2005            2,330
2010            6,140
2015            11,310
2020            15,100
2025            19,400
2030            26,300 (projected)
 
So, growth in China’s GDP in real terms in current dollars over the 40 years to the present has been a factor of 62.58 or a CAGR (compound annual growth rate) of 10.89% over 40 years.
 
If money supply, through printing, has been double the total growth over 40 years, given improvements in living standards, massive development of every sector I can think of, and a massive decrease in the extent and depth of poverty, I can’t see that it is irresponsible. Am I missing something?
 
Also, over the same time the US Government debt, as a proportion of GDP, has grown from 31.8% in 1981 to 124% in 2024 and now stands at US$38 Trillion, or around double China’s GDP this year.
 
Over the last 40 years, the US cannot claim the same increase in living standards, infrastructure development, or decrease in poverty that China has demonstrated.
 
I’d like to know where I have gone wrong with understanding your point 1) before I rush off and get lost in the weeds on the rest of your post.
 
 

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 3:49 utc | 230

I was thinking on this well prior to General Factotum’s post – China’s ‘ghost’ cities.
In the west, real estate developers might build a mini suburb or ‘estate’. Looks empty at first with finished housing and housing nearing completion, but the people start moving in.
 
In China, they build complete cities. Perhaps about a decade back, one Chinese city was in the media as a ghost city.
There are many western video bloggers in China now. A year or two back, I saw video of that western media ‘ghost city’. It was a thriving city with people everywhere.
China builds carefully planned infrastructure and the economy and people follow.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 4:24 utc | 231

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 4:24 utc | 234
 
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I followed the ghost city narrative closely back in 2009. It was another Uyghur/Tibetan genocide Western narrative.
 
China’s 3rd tier cities are cleaner and more advanced than the nicest city in the West.
 
I expect a lot more copium narratives, like the social credit score nonsense.
 
Can’t have people see what socialism can accomplish!!!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 4:31 utc | 232

Socialism AND a high standard of integrity for government.
 
The Chinese wouldn’t put up with the British or French government for a day.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 4:33 utc | 233

LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 4:33 utc | 236
 
Thinking about China’s progress from poverty ridden peasant farmers to where they are today. Technology and manufacturing have pulled China out of poverty. With mechanised and modern farming, China can now feed itself and only a small amount of labour is required.
A country of 1,3 or 1.4 billion people, that’s a massive shift from peasant farming to the urban technology and manufacturing centers. A massive amount of housing required for that shift.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 4:42 utc | 234

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 4:42 utc | 237
 
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The Chinese are utilizing very advanced farming machinery that requires less labor.
 
I know in Thailand they use heavy drones to spray fields.
 
Asia is leading the way, and they are going to share with anyone who wants to collaborate in good faith. It’s not profit-driven, IMO, it is about elevating everyone to have a more harmonious world where there is less want and strife.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 5:12 utc | 235

I know in Thailand they use heavy drones to spray fields. 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2025 5:12 utc | 241
 
 
Yes. In china the same. They are ideal for the small fields that exist in many areas.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 5:25 utc | 236

In the west, real estate developers might build a mini suburb or ‘estate’. Looks empty at first with finished housing and housing nearing completion, but the people start moving in.
 
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 4:24 utc | 234
 
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It’s worse than that, Peter. In recent threads there have been discussions around socialism/capitalism, and people get hung up on minutia and definitions, rather than considering principles.
 
One poster was taken to task for suggesting ‘privatising profits and socialising costs’. Thinking of the principle involved, how would objectors to this notion describe what typically happens with a ‘development’ in Australia? The local/state/federal government builds a road, a railway, an airport… using public money, and the ‘developers’ see an opportunity for profit and build shops, houses, carparks close by. In the case of motorways or toll roads we have the rotten ‘public-private-partnerships’ where every opportunity for profit-taking is imposed in a gleeful free-for -all. 
 
Take Sydney Airport (Domestic and International). It was built by public money, now run by the (private) Sydney Airport Corporation – one of the most profitable entities around. Recently, a rail link was built to service the airport. How much do you think Sydney Airport Corporation contributed? A rail ticket from the Sydney Airport to Green Square (the closest metro link) is $2.94 (off peak). Oh, but to use the ticket, you have to purchase a gate pass to the station (the gate pass fee goes to Sydney Airport Corporation) so that you can use the fucking station to get on the train – and this ‘gate pass’ will cost you $17.34, (not a typo!) for a total transport cost of $20.28. You can’t make this up – but can you find a more accurate description than “privatise the profits, socialise the costs”.
 
There you go, a six-word competition for all the defenders of capitalism! Free bar tab for a day for the winner!
 
Oh, and one more thing. You can take a high speed train from Beijing to Tianjin City, a distance of about 122 km and the journey takes around 30 minutes. A second class ticket (which is much nicer than an Australian metro ticket – which is a ‘classless’ train, true in more ways than one!) will cost you about AUD$6. Last time I travelled, you had to take the metro from the Beijing Airport to Beijing South Railway Station, from where the high-speed train departed. No gate-pass tickets required anywhere. I understand that the high speed train now services the airport.
 
Oh, and one more one more thing (sorry Columbo) – all the vending machines on the stations belong to China Rail. The ‘profits’ from the machine and all other services go towards keeping costs down and providing better services for the traveling citizens. 
 
I’m sure all this is ‘totally replicable’ in the west – it would just require educating (or re-educating) the populace and decision-makers. China now has more than 40,000km of high-speed rail operational across the country. Remind me again where in the entire US there exists even 1 metre of operational high-speed rail??

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 6:13 utc | 237

it would just require educating (or re-educating) the populace and decision-makers
 
Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 6:13 utc | 243
 

 
That sounds like a Cultural Revolution.
 

Posted by: too scents | Nov 4 2025 6:39 utc | 238

General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 6:13 utc | 243
 
The joys of privatisation that began in the 80’s. I look at the east coast area of Australia where the majority of Australia population is and there is much that could be done that would both benefit the economy and lower the cost of living, but that won’t happen until after some form of collapse/revolution/change occurs in the western world – if then. So many in the western world have now come to believe this rampant privatisation and capitalism is the only way.
 
The people I know have never been to China and so they think that the west is ahead of China. They only know the China of the propaganda media. 
 
Back in the late sixties I think it was the Australian government began the project to take electricity to all of rural Australia. I remember the power lines coming to the farm as a kid. Then around 79 I worked on a property in western Queensland where the power had just come through. That bloke got them to put power lines to all the bores so he could install electric pumps rather than running diesel pumps.
 
Another that I knew and flew for in the early 2000’s, for some reason had not got the power put on when it was only a short distance away running past his property. He kept on using the diesel lighting plant for a number of years and then when he decided to get power put in, it was too late. Australian electricity had been privatized and it was going to cost a fortune so he just continued with the diesel genset.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 6:54 utc | 239

@ General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 6:13 utc | 243 about China high-speed rail and such…thx
 
The scary thing to me is reading recently that China has contracted out some part of high-speed rail to a private organization.
 
I am of the opinion that if China, rightly so, IMO, provides major forms of public transportation built and managed by the government, that they are at risk by having a private organization, with the additional goal of profit which has to come out of service or safety.
 
I think that sovereign governments should provide broad communication capabilities much the same way….education, health care, housing…….and finance as a public utility instead of a private jackboot.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2025 6:59 utc | 240

Australian electricity had been privatized and it was going to cost a fortune so he just continued with the diesel genset.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 6:54 utc | 245
 
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My son and family (wife and 4 kids) bought a 4-acre block just outside a major rural town, Power line went right along one boundary fence. It was going to cost him more than $45,000 just to get the power on, then supply and usage charges.
 
For much less, he went off-grid with solar, batteries, and diesel back0up generator. That was 10 years ago. he has spent a handful of change on diesel. Supply tariff alone during that time will more than cover the cost of battery replacement.
 
 

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 7:03 utc | 241

General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 6:13 utc | 243
 
Thanks for that comparison. We used to  do that in Australia but it was a long time ago and it is now viewed as the Government picking  winners, something that is anathema to Western political thought.  Heaven forbid that an elected government might like to  steer the country towards a better quality of life for its citizens. No, no, no. The current and only acceptable role of government is to restrain the public while the private sector picks their pocket.

Posted by: ZimZum | Nov 4 2025 7:04 utc | 242

@ChatNPC  #217
Mark Levin is not MAGA – he i a neocon media booster.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 7:54 utc | 243

I’d argue that the SR71 was the pinnacle of US planes but not the last great one.
 
The USSR built (modified?) MiG 25 as a response to the Blackbird. Had a fancy afterburner feature for Mach 2.5 for about 30 seconds iirc. Have always wondered if it was calm and composed or like a small economy car being pushed well past it’s limits?
 
The last great plane built by the yanks was the Rockwell B1. The Russians copied it. They’ve not done it since.

Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Nov 4 2025 8:04 utc | 244

@General Factotum #230
You will note that I never said that China’s money printing was bad.
It is precisely this Chinese monetary phenomenon, by which I sneer at hard money morons. A hard money regime would make this type of growth literally impossible.
This unprecedented Chinese printing of money – the $40 trillion is a low end estimate – was funneled into investments that obviously have dramatically increased productivity, built industry and infrastructure, etc etc.
And so the 12000% is no more or less scary a number than 120x – it shows just how dramatically China has progressed in a single generation. This is an order of magnitude greater growth (ie 10x or more) vs. anything else seen in history.
As you also correctly note: while the West has printed less in both absolute and relative terms over the same period – it has printed a lot. But this Western printed money has NOT increased productivity, built industry or infrastructure, etc etc. The Western money printing over the past generation has done nothing but increase debt.
Much the same phenomena can be seen with 2nd and 3rd world countries – large relative spend but much worse relative outcomes.
Another factor which I did not call out, but which should be, is Western sanctions.
The post November revolution growth of the USSR economy via industrialization was extremely impressive given that the USSR was basically shut out of all Western assistance and trade – unlike China.There were brief windows, but the overall trend was clearly Western economic rivalry.
A similar phenomenon recurred after 1945 and the ensuing Cold War sanctions, despite which the USSR rebuilt from an incredibly damaging World War 2.
So China not only was assisted by Western “leaders” in offshoring manufacturing from the West to China, but was assisted – even before the offshoring – by not experiencing remotely the level of economic warfare that the USSR/Russia received.
A marked difference pre-Nixon vs. post, I might add. In this sense, China deliberately dangled its potential as a rival to the USSR/Russia to its great benefit.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 8:13 utc | 245

Some Random Passerby | Nov 4 2025 8:04 utc | 246
 
The SR-71 was quickly developed after the U2 was shot down and the highly publicised trial of the pilot, Gary Powers. With the U2, the CIA thought the Soviet radars would not see it let alone be able to shoot it down.
 
The A-12/SR-71 came at a time when the Americans were developing high flying mach 3+ bombers. TheSR-71 was more a very expensive custom built or very low production aircraft.
 
The Mig- 25, which the Soviets first deployed in 1970 was a production interceptor. I think it was designed as a mach 3 interceptor but mach 3 and above would destroy the engines, requiring a full engine replacement when the returned, the removed engines I think were scrap and could not be rebuilt. Its max speed was I think lowered to mach 2.7. Along with the mig-25, the Soviets also deployed the S-200 long range mach 7 intercepter missile and that pretty much put an end to American development of high altitude, high mach speed bombers.
 
The mig-31 was developed very quickly after a pilot defected to Japan with a 25. By then, the American were going towards the very low flying cruise missile so the 31 was designed as a look down cruise missile interceptor. A little slower but a low speed flying bug in the 25 was ironed out in the 31 and apparently it has better flying characteristics through all the speed ranges than the 25. 
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 9:05 utc | 246

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 6:54 utc | 239
Re: “Australian electricity had been privatized and it was going to cost a fortune so he just continued with the diesel genset.”
I’ve had a number of solar PV customers over the years that were in that same boat. One, c.2000, had a 14km dirt road to his place, the last of about a dozen properties on the road. He asked all the other properties if they wanted to share the costs, and all politely declined. But, due to the likelihood of them wanting to get in on the action once the wires were there he was going to have to pay for cable large enough to carry the load of all 12 properties. $440,000 (c.2000, $AUD)…and that was just to the gate. He’d then have to put his own private poles to get it the 300m to the homestead, costing tens of thousands more…~$45k rings a bell.
 
He opted for a large solar and battery system and used his diesel set for backup and when running bigger loads (welders, lathe, etc). He saved himself ~$425,000 (when you include the private poles), which would easily accrue enough gains (if well managed) to pay for the now much reduced diesel costs, and replacement batteries / inverter-charger every 10-15 years.
He saw it as a win, and was quietly content about not having paid for all his neighbour’s power connections.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 4 2025 9:39 utc | 247

Jon_in_AU | Nov 4 2025 9:39 utc | 252
 
I looked at a small rough block of land in the early 2000’s. It had no power and at that time, I don’t think there where government subsidies on solar. After that time, panels started to reduce in price, especially when China got into the game and with government subsidies, solar suddenly became economically very feasible.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 9:55 utc | 248

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 7:54 utc | 243
OK. Bear in mind I’m from across the pond so which political ghoul is which is a mystery to me. I guess the real battle is for the heart of MAGA America First versus the (old GOP) Israel First.
Anyhoo, it looks like it could get nasty, but it certainly puts a spotlight on one of Americas biggest problems.
Now watching Tucker on Dave Smith’s podcast…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 4 2025 10:41 utc | 249

“The more you try to drown out reality, the harder we’ll work to establish the facts…It’s the pursuit of truth that gives us our calling,” an ad for the BBC boasts. “Trust is earned.”
 
But just minutes after DJT gave his speech @ the Capitol on 6 January 2021, biased BBC News wonks were busily editing his words and remixing the sequence of how he had uttered them in order to warp what had been DJT’s actual message to his supporters.
 
Panorama, a program on BBC News, edited DJT’s speech outside Congress on the day of the Capitol riots so that when he actually said he would walk with the protestors “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard,” he appeared instead to be inciting violence, telling them to “fight like hell.”
 
Panorama spliced together different and unrelated sections from the beginning and end of an hour long speech – then blended the video so the joins could not be seen, making it appear that DJT had said something he did not.   His words were spliced together from three different portions of the actual speech, omitting his call for people to march “peacefully.”   Who needs AI deepfakes when you have the BBC instead?
 
The BBC applied Insurrection Helper to the events of J6.
 
When Michael Prescott, an adviser to the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee for three years until resigning in June 2025, highlighted what had happened, he was met with a wall of obfuscation.
 
Concerned he was getting nowhere with the chief executive of BBC News, Deborah Turness, he then contacted the BBC’s chairman, Samir Shah: “This is a very, very dangerous precedent.  I hope you agree and take some form of action to ensure this potentially huge problem is nipped in the bud.”  He did not receive a reply.
 
Donald Trump Jr was with his father on 6 January as he addressed supporters before they stormed the US Capitol.   He criticized the BBC’s coverage of his father, calling its journalists “dishonest” after The Telegraph newspaper revealed the way the BBC had edited his father’s speech.
 
“The FAKE NEWS ‘reporters’ in the UK are just as dishonest and full of s—t as the ones here in America!!!!” Donald Trump Jr posted on X after he was told about the distorting edits.
 
The White House called out the BBC for its biased reporting:  “Trust in the media is at an all-time low because of deceptive editing, misleading reporting, and outright lies. This is yet another example, of many, highlighting why countless Americans turn to alternative media sources to get their news.” Abigail Jackson, White House spokeswoman told The Telegraph.
 
CBS News paid out to DJT $16mn for its role in deceptively editing Kamals’s sit-down interview w/ the show ’60 Minutes,’ in which the news corporation heavily edited, remixed and spliced various word salad answers Kamala gave in order to make her responses seem coherently communicative.
 
DJT filed the lawsuit against CBS News alleging that the broadcasting network was recasting reality in these biased edits and therefore misleading the public.
 
CBS agreed to settle the lawsuit out of court, and DJT applied every dime of the $16mn payout to building the new ballroom @ the White House.
 
I can believe DJT will sue the BBC under similar circumstances—-and after receiving a hefty settlement, he will donate every dime to the ballroom costs.
 
Interstingly, the ballroom is becoming a shrine to the way the media tried to bamboozle the public on what DJT said & when he said it.
 
Additionally in the matter involving the BBC, in the week before the 5 November 2024 presidential election, an influential U.S. pollster, Anne O. Selznick, showed Kamala winning the bellwether state of Iowa by 15% of the votes.  Although Selznick’s poll, the Des Moines Register Poll, was widely considered the gold standard of American polling, this particular report by Selznick seemed distinctly out of sync w/ an electorate which ultimately ensured that DJT beat Kamala in Iowa by 7%.   So close to the actual election, analysts found it odd that Selznick’s formerly rock solid a poll could be so wrong.   But it was.Nevertheless, in the days before the 2024 election the BBC boosted & amplified Selznick’s faulty poll as if it was the New Jesus.   Ditto w/ the legacy media, the Permanent Washington media, in the U.S.
 
Both media ecosystems, in the UK and in the states, tried to speak Kamals’s win into existence by magnifying the faulty polling, as if to discourage citizens from showing up to vote because the odds against a DJT win seemed so strong.
 
This is the hoodwinking mesmerism of disinformation/misinformation playing out in a whole-of-media system.
 
DJT filed a lawsuit against Selznick soon after he won the 2024 election, and the Des Moines Register is now footing the bill of her defense.  I can believe that Selznick, via Iowa’s paper-of-record, will wind up contributing to the new ballroom.
 
Some will whinge & cry & scream that DJT is bitterly seeking retribution against his enemies—CBS News, Anne O. Selznick, and now the BBC.
 
Even if retribution were purely DJT’s motive, it would not excuse the outright warping of reality in which each of the above engaged:   they asked the public to trust them but served up only lies.
 
As a member of that abused public, I may never sip from a sparkling flute of champagne under the shimmering chandeliers of the new ballroom, but I don’t have to.  That it exists and that others will celebrate w/ champagne there is everything.
 
D.C. is full of heavy monuments, commemorating the nation’s hallowed events.  It’s wonderful to walk among them and feel what you feel.  The ballroom will rightly assume its weighty place beside them, a cathedral to how they were not able to outrun their lies.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 4 2025 11:10 utc | 250

From Reuters 

“President Trump listens to many of his trusted advisers on any given issue. However, he is the final decisionmaker on all foreign policy – and here, he was motivated to take action against the existential threat that Christians are facing in Nigeria,” White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly said.
 
Evangelical leader Gary Bauer told Reuters that people increasingly worried about attacks on Christians lobbied Trump before his warning to Nigeria.
Trump’s threat came a day after his administration added Nigeria to a “Countries of Particular Concern” list of nations that the U.S. says have violated religious freedoms.
“I know the president was hearing from a lot of people that he needed to take action,” Bauer said.”
…………….
 
Propaganda “activists” have already been positioned to feed a narrative to the media so I assume the Trump admin is serious about the threats to Nigeria. Nigeria has oil and China buys a lot of it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 11:36 utc | 251

Just turned on the teevee and breaking news made the day a bit brighter.  Darth Vader is dead

Posted by: dan of steele | Nov 4 2025 12:12 utc | 252

Posted by: Exile | Nov 3 2025 12:09 utc | 152
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Be gone, troll. 

Posted by: seer | Nov 4 2025 12:15 utc | 253

Posted by: too scents | Nov 3 2025 11:44 utc | 148
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So basically, you confirm that Russian aviation was stunted, and had to get jet engine technology from the bongs and krauts. Got it. 

Posted by: seer | Nov 4 2025 12:18 utc | 254

Posted by: dan of steele | Nov 4 2025 12:12 utc | 252
Posted by: Lillyhammer | Nov 4 2025 12:32 utc | 255
 
Flags at mast-and-a-half for 30 days!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 4 2025 13:58 utc | 255

More pearls afore swine …
 
 
Did DJT’s realpolitik kowtow to Xi upset a few deepstate clowns? 
 
 
There is some strange reigniting in the U.K. of Sinophobia using the Uigher campaign by a US flunky ‘professor’ supposedly based at Sheffield University.  who seemed to transcend from an English major via writing about west African slavery in Yankee literature to suddenly be employed by Homeland Security, NED, USAID to be transformed into a ‘professor’ and expert in Uigher slavery in the Biden administration! 
” An investigation into allegations that Sheffield Hallam University faced sustained pressure from China to shut down human rights research has been referred to counter-terrorism police.

The BBC and the Guardian newspaper have been reporting that documents show China waged a two-year campaign of intimidation and harassment, including demands the university stop sensitive research by one of its professors into claims of forced labour in the Xinjiang region of China…”

 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0e1lyyvdlo 
 
 
Lol  Beeb and Grauniad! Nothing spooky there,  right? 
 
 Who is this crusader being maligned by the sneaky Chinese from a long long way away ? 
Murphy, L., Taylor, R., & Bolden, C. (2015). Trafficking and exploitative labor among homeless youth in New Orleans. Loyola University New Orleans.
to 
 
“Financing & Genocide: Development Finance and the
Crisis in the Uyghur Region.” Atlantic Council. February 2022.
2021
with anonymous co-authors. “Laundered Cotton: How the Problematic Provenance of Xinjiang Cotton is Obscured in International Supply Chains.” Sheffield Hallam University. October 2021.
 
‘Atlantic Council’ … ‘anonymous’ coauthors.
 
 
Quite a trajectory – from small town gal to Steel City Professor who has been on a sabbatical and was not required on her return this year by the University! 
 
 In her own words :
“My work has been funded by the Laudes Foundation, Freedom Fund, USAID, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the National Humanities Center, and others.”
 
 
Ho hum just another day at the propaganda mill in the 51st state. 
 
 
suddenly all the toys are out of the pram and we suddenly haveThe latest China Uigher cold vomit she served up being reheated.
 
 
Start here oinks  
 
 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 4 2025 14:05 utc | 256

Jon_in_AU@247…….not sure on your power codes down under, but up here in the big Colony once the power gets to your property poles are an expensive option,. We just get a JCB to dig trench, or a Ditch Witch or directional bore machine and feed the power line underground. Less than a tenth of the cost, I’m 500 ft from their distribution point…….
 
Cheers M 
 
…..the beauty of trenching in Australia, ya never know when you might hit a big old gold nug or a chunk of opal…….
 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2025 14:07 utc | 257

DunGroanin@257……oy, hang on there a wee minute, what’s this talk, 51st State, huh…….take a number and get in line……. Canadians might object to your assertions…..they yearn to be like their southern cousins, they just do it in disguise, like a snake dressed as a scorpion……..
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2025 14:17 utc | 258

Former US Vice President Dick Cheney has died from complications of pneumonia and heart and vascular diseasePosted by: Lillyhammer | Nov 4 2025 12:32 utc | 255
 
Dick Cheney should posthumously be given the Nobel Peace Prize. If Maria Corina Machado calling for war on her own citizens and country gets to have one, Cheney in this peak Orwellian time should get one too.

Posted by: xor | Nov 4 2025 14:53 utc | 259

Every time Britain is about to announce a budget, the OBR magically reveals some massive fiscal gap. Why haven’t markets just concluded that the British government are cooking the books and price it into the gilt yield?

 

https://x.com/philippilk/status/1985721618866528659

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 4 2025 14:54 utc | 260

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 4 2025 11:10 utc | 250  I was raised conservative. As a result, contempt for humanity, the smug assurance that some kinds of people were, are and will always be inferior (unlike us) is a bad habit to relapse into. Posts like this encourage that devil on my shoulder whispering, some people are simply inferior. This is the person who recently tried to promote an outrage story about media anti-Trump censorship that favored his tin God Trump!  He hasn’t got any smarter. 
 
He starts off with some BS about a BBC program back on 1/6, as if BBC coverage mattered to people in the US. Presumably when you are indignant on behalf of your God insults from thousands of miles away, it still rankles. The true joke is that the whole thing supposedly depends on a misleading edit of Trump’s speech. Nobody knows when Trump means what he says or when he’s just making stuff up.  It is not logically possible to misedit in the sense of falsifying his meaning because Trump has already falsified his own words, his BS is an indispensable part of his persona.  
 
He then assumes that CBS making a settlement with Trump over a Harris interview (What does that have to do with Trump? Sane people want to know!) must be an admission of guilt rather than an expediency! This would be grotesquely stupid were it not more likely this asshole is gloating over the successful wrath of his tin God. 
 
Then there’s something about Selznick and a poll in Iowa. The notion that polls are published that aren’t really polls but efforts to create an impression of a band wagon is the grain of truth here. And by the way, look up push polling, which seems to be the right-wingers favorite.  Such things are very common….in Trump’s favor as well as against. Retroactive selective enforcement of something that has been standard practice for decades is something of an ex post facto law.  (By the way, such are explicitly forbidden by the Constitution.) If you object this is a lawsuit, I retort, how was DJT damaged? Is there even a tort?
 
The most deranged part of this is an elaborate claim that money spent on the ball room is a slap in the face to God’s enemies, well merited not just because they were God’s enemies, but also enemies of God’s worshippers (himself and his imaginary majority of humanity he implies he’s part of—this is an excellent example of an imaginary bandwagon!)  This ape of reason apparently is so offended that somebody somewhere dares be negative about the ballroom he’s rationalized it as an act of worship. Yes, dude, we know that kings have the royal prerogative of redecorating their palace the way they want, it’s not a religious experience! 
 
Diagnosis: Drunk on Trump’s Dingleberry Wine.  Treatment: Don’t post drunk.
 
 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 4 2025 15:00 utc | 261

@ Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2025 14:17 utc | 259
I should have written FIRST state of the Ziofascists imperialism.
 
 
ANYWAY AN APPEAL TO BERNHARD!
 
 
When will you write about the AirIndia Boeing 777 fall?
‘the airline, which is owned by Tata Group’
 
The lone survivor says he isn’t allowed to talk about what he witnessed INSIDE the plane. 
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‘Speaking from his hospital bed, Mr Ramesh said the lights inside the aircraft “started flickering” moments after take off.
 
Within five to 10 seconds, it felt like the plane was “stuck in the air”, he said.
 
“The lights started flickering green and white…suddenly slammed into a building and exploded.” ‘
…..
 
‘The BBC had detailed discussions with his advisers around his duty of care before the interview.’
 
‘When asked about his memories of the day of the crash, he said: “I can’t say anything about that now.” ‘
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp85zvne1m3o
 
‘I’m the luckiest man alive, but also suffering, says Air India crash sole survivor ‘
 
 
I have never seen such a major airline crash with a flagship aeroplane being so completely ignored MONTHS after all the pieces were gathered!
 
 
what are they hiding ??? b?
 
 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 4 2025 15:08 utc | 262

 evil american warmonger dick cheney dead @ 84: (bih)
 
burn in hell.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 4 2025 15:10 utc | 263

@ChatNPC #249
The pre-Trump Republican party, the one of Dubya Bush, is neocon. This is Lindsay Graham and Marco Rubio and company.
MAGA is a vastly different beast. Among other things, it is very much blue collar unlike the (not entirely incorrect) stereotype of fat cat Republicans.
But even MAGA and neocon are new versions of old phenomena: MAGA is much closer to the Goldwater small r, small government type Republicans of 2 generations ago whereas neocons are more like “Red Scare” Joseph McCarthy of the same rough era.
And of course, neoliberal interventionists like HRC and Obama are extremely difficult to separate, in foreign policy, vs neocons.
Mark Levin is neocon and also Israel First. While a substantial demographic of the Trump coalition is neocon/Israel first – primarily the Boomer age old people – the views of the younger (ie 50 and under) MAGA are very different. These people are anti-interventionist and anti-Israel in many demographics. To give one extreme example: while the expatriate Cubans and Venezuelans in Florida are rabidly anti-communist, they are also very unsupportive, overall, of Trump’s threatened Venezuela invasion.
The various pro- and anti- Israel, pro- and anti-interventionist demographics in the Republican party are still fighting it out in contrast to the Democrat party – which has chosen to go all-in (as is their Borg-like wont) on Israel First despite vociferous opposition from the progressive and also the young liberals.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 15:12 utc | 264

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 9:55 utc | 248
Interestingly, at that time, c.2000 PV modules cost around $7.00-8.00 per Watt wholesale and it was still viable for this customer. There were rebates at the time. The NSW government body, SEDA (Sustainable Energy Development Authority) had a rebate on total system cost (capped), and if I recall correctly, you got a federal government exemption from Schedule 171 tax laws (no sales tax on “essential power generation equipment). It was just before the GST came in, and PV had something like 22% sales tax…unless exempted.
 
Nowadays, I can readily find modules wholesale for as little as $0.24-$0.40 per Watt. Now, solar is really the most affordable option for all stand alone power systems, by a huge margin.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 4 2025 15:14 utc | 265

I will want to learn where Dick Cheney is buried so I can go piss on his grave some day in my retirement.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2025 15:19 utc | 266

@Peter AU1 #220
Printing money is not about “faith” – it is future taxes. The US no more prints based on faith than does anyone else. The only difference for the US is that it is future taxing much more than its own population and economic base, but the extra-national parts have the option to opt out at any time.
So yet again, I repeat: it is not money printing that is automatically bad. It is the use for which said money, derived from printing, is put to.
The most basic example is from the Sumerian/Babylonian era. Canals were a direct way to expand the rural subsistence economic base for those entities, but no one or even a town could possibly afford the massive up front investment to build long canals. The rulers in Sumeria and Babylon drew upon the totality of their economic bases to extract the money (ie crystallized work) to build new canals, to create future growth. Dams are a more modern version, or electrical grids, or sewer systems etc etc.
But if you take the printed money and instead go fight wars of conquest or build Taj Mahals or whatever – the return on this investment, which again is derived from future taxes, is going to be low to negative. The resulting increase in economic burden makes life worse for everyone and harder to “future tax” borrow.
It isn’t like there are plenty of places to invest money in the West: the decaying infrastructure from the post WW2 buildout period is very obvious, as one of the more glaring examples.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 15:23 utc | 267

You want to know how fucked health care is in America?  From ZH
 
The Pill For Everything: Why Off-Label Gabapentin Prescriptions Are Soaring
 

What do hot flashes, back pain, and insomnia have in common? Increasingly, they all lead to the same prescription: gabapentin.
The anti-seizure medication has quietly become the fifth most prescribed drug in the U.S., not because seizure disorders are skyrocketing, but because doctors are writing millions of prescriptions for uses the FDA never approved.
Now, as concerns mount about dependency and long-term cognitive risks, experts are questioning whether the medication warrants closer scrutiny.

But we can’t get Ivermectin if we want.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2025 15:23 utc | 268

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 4 2025 14:07 utc | 258
 
The poles aren’t cheap, and trenching has become increasingly common over the past few decades. The problem here in Australia, is we often have a very shallow soil horizon before hitting bedrock, and trenched cables need to have 500mm of cover. On rocky ground, it is often cheaper just to put poles in.
 
Finding a gold nugget would be a nice surprise though. One of the last times I did a trench we cut across a burrow and I got a surprise…an angry male funnel-web spider jumping out of the wall of the trench. They scare the crap out of me. 

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 4 2025 15:45 utc | 269

it is hard to understand what motivated dick cheney which is why it seems easy for some folks to hate the man.. hating never got anywhere though, so maybe some understanding would go further…  we don’t know what happens to people when they die.. maybe that’s it and nothing happens, or maybe they have a soul that lives on – even might have to reflect on what they did while they were on planet earth.. so many possibilities exist because we can’t ever know just what happens…  this is similar to not knowing what motivates a person.. is it purely self interest, or can it be something greater? i personally think it can be something greater, although not everyone agrees with me or is interested in this idea…  

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 15:51 utc | 270

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2025 15:19 utc | 267
“I will want to learn where Dick Cheney is buried so I can go piss on his grave some day in my retirement.”
 
I share your sentiments, but there’s bound to be a queue longer than the one’s for the toilets at a music festival.
 

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 4 2025 15:57 utc | 271

c1ue | Nov 4 2025 15:23 utc | 268
 
I had not seen it put like that before but it makes sense.
 
Economists like Hudson and others have written and spoken about how US could exort its inflation that might normally occur with money printing, due to having the world reserve currency or trade currency. That is something I have not understood. Putin has spoken about the massive US money printing during covid and that it would cause problems all though I did not see any sines of it causing inflation in the US at that time. Off memory, I think Putin said US increased its money supply by thirty or fourty percent with the covid money printing and that would cause problems for other countries.
 
Straight off covid and the Russian move of early 2022 and now we see a lots of countries beginning to trade in national currencies so less US dollars required in circulation.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 4 2025 15:59 utc | 272

Who Has Escalating Dominance, Trump Over Putin, Xi Over Trump?
 
https://johnhelmer.net/who-has-escalation-dominance-trump-over-putin-xi-over-trump-the-new-podcast-with-nima-alkhorshid/#more-92750
 
“Did Xi Jinping demonstrate escalating dominance over Donald Trump at their meeting in Busan on Oct 30 in a way which Vladimir Putin failed to do with Trump at their meeting in Anchorage on Aug 15? Has the Zhongnanhai strategy been more effective in deterring US escalation of trade war and of military measures against China than the Kremlin strategy managed against the US and NATO?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 4 2025 16:00 utc | 273

@ james | Nov 4 2025 15:51 utc | 270 who wrote

we don’t know what happens to people when they die.. maybe that’s it and nothing happens, or maybe they have a soul that lives on – even might have to reflect on what they did while they were on planet earth.. so many possibilities exist because we can’t ever know just what happens…

 
My healer, Jeff Tarrant, is documenting areas you write about…check this out
The Telepathy Tapes
 

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2025 16:23 utc | 274

In memoriam.
Darth Vader was in New Orleans after the hurricane Katrina mess. A guy on camera caught up to him and gave him a taste of his own words. “Go F yourself.”
I think this happened right after Darth “accidentally” shot somebody in the face.
I don’t have the time to look for the clip. Precious.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2025 16:57 utc | 275

@Peter AU1 #272

Economists like Hudson and others have written and spoken about how US could exort its inflation that might normally occur with money printing, due to having the world reserve currency or trade currency.

When the US prints money – it devalues the purchasing power of said money ie the USD. This ripples all through the entire world because of the USD’s role in global trade. And it is “exporting” inflation because it is the US printing the money, but the world getting future taxed – at least as long as any given part of the world stays in the USD system.

Putin has spoken about the massive US money printing during covid and that it would cause problems all though I did not see any sines of it causing inflation in the US at that time.

It is false to say that there were no effects in the US – there were massive effects, after a short delay. Some examples: the prices of used cars skyrocketed and are only now starting to come down. Fed Reserve Data aka Fred shows this.
Other liquidity dependent assets shot up: meme stocks, bitcoin/cryptocurrencies, etc etc. This liquidity took a bit longer to show up in everyday goods because food, for example, is significantly priced based on last year’s fertilizer and seed prices but it occurred as well, although reinforced by Western sanction effects (and NordStream) on fertilizer.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2025 16:59 utc | 276

we don’t know what happens to people when they die.. maybe that’s it and nothing happens, or maybe they have a soul that lives on – even might have to reflect on what they did while they were on planet earth.

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 15:51 utc | 270

james, in 1907 Dr. Duncan McDougal performed a controversial experiment on dying patients, suggesting that at the time of death there is a weight loss of 21 grams. A movie by the same name was inspired by the experiment.

Does the soul have weigh? IDK if any new research has been done in this area.

As for Darth, I don’t think he had a soul.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2025 17:12 utc | 277

 psychohistorian | Nov 4 2025 6:59 utc | 240
 
There’re many graves worthy of being pissed on. Yes, Cheney was evil but so were those who preceded him during the late 1940s onward who he learned from–they killed many millions in several separate yet connected genocides and changed several dozen governments. This excellent short paragraph from the intro to The Jakarta Method: Washington’s Anticommunist Crusade & the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World needs very broad circulation:
 

Most shockingly, and most importantly for this book, the two events [“what happened in Brazil in 1964 and Indonesia in 1965”] led to the creation of a monstrous international network of extermination–that is, the systematic mass murder of civilians--across many more countries, which played a fundamental role in building the world we all live in today. [My Emphasis]

 
Author Vincent Bevins says the above is in addition to the Southeast Asian Genocide that was the Outlaw US Empire’s war on Indochina.  
 
As for China transport tech, take a look at this. Make sure to scroll down the page while watching the videos. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 4 2025 17:16 utc | 278

Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2025 17:12 utc | 277
 
I’ve toyed with the fact that energy is never lost; it just changes form; and how the Ancient Asians believed that a person could heighten one’s energy being though various methods, the most well-known are called chakras. I learned about the practice via Joseph Campbell’s PBS series and later his books. This website IMO you’ll find interesting if you deem chakras worthy of knowing about.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 4 2025 17:37 utc | 279

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 4 2025 17:37 utc | 279
 
Thanks for your well considered response Karl.

Yes, of course chakras are well worth considering.
The psychospritual value chakras are pretty much unknown in the west. True that Shirley McLain (yeah, the actress) talked about them a long time ago, but who listened to her?

On a personal note: I think all objects in the universe are connected somehow. I mean I was just about take a bite of my sandwich, when the 40 year old plant in my living room communicated that it had not been watered recently. I usually water this plant on Saturdays, but was away for the weekend. I stopped eating, and fulfilled my watering duties first. Now, that’s chakras to the nth degree.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2025 18:38 utc | 280

karlof1@279
thank you, for sharing that.  it’s very cool…although i pray the headchoppers & zionazis don’t start to use them in the sahel & levant.
(fyi: i’ve posted it on the open thread @ Hearty Salon of globalsouth, with attribution. )   

Posted by: emersonreturn | Nov 4 2025 18:48 utc | 281

I think all objects in the universe are connected somehow.

 
This vision has often been reported. Some have seen the golden strings of light themselves, and intruigingly there is an ancient coptic which denotes precisely this: lihme. The L-H-M spine of this word can still be heard in today’s turkic lahmacun, and indeed its primary meaning was the strands of dough which form when kneading, but also the irrigation channels crisscrossing the land. 
 
“The lihme are like strings, but not of matter; they are connecting me with you, the stars, and with god” said Mani. I fully subscribe to the idea and would like to revive this beautiful word. 

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 4 2025 20:34 utc | 282

Oops! From The Register, the grift that keeps on grifting: https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/04/uk_f35_capability_crimped_by/
 
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A scathing report from Parliament’s Public Accounts Committee (PAC) highlights “significant problems” with F35 procurement and management, echoing an earlier rebuke from the National Audit Office (NAO) over similar shortcomings.
The UK’s F-35 force lacks essential capabilities, including stand-off weapon to attack ground targets from a safe distance. The Spear missile is ready but awaits integration through Lockheed Martin’s Block 4 software update — now delayed until 2031, five years behind schedule. Without it, PAC warns, the jets can only attack ground targets by dropping bombs “like in WW2.”

But never mind chaps, we can still take on those damn backwards Russkies any time we like… 
 
What ho! Tally ho! Trebles all round!

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 4 2025 20:52 utc | 283

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 4 2025 20:52 utc | 284
So, cast your mind back to the 2010 General Election. Britain was stony broke after the bank bailouts required by the 2007 GFC, swingeing austerity was being threatened by the Uniparty. Cameron had vowed to reduce immigration “from the hundreds of thousands to the tens of thousands” and managed to get the most seats but no majority. Well, the day before William Hague was in Dublin for a not-so-secret meeting of the Trilateral Commission, from which he emerged muttering something about buying a lot more weaponry from the US, apropos of nothing*.
After much horse trading a coalition was formed with Nick Clegg’s LibDems, Cameron was anointed PM, in a fortunate coincidence Will Hague became Foreign Minister oh, and you became Culture Secretary.
Austerity followed with defence cuts meaning the scrapping of Nimrod AWACS aircraft, the Harriers of RAF and FAA and the aircraft carrier. However, we ordered two brand new aircraft carriers (which still don’t work). RC-35 Rivet Joint ISR planes and a biiiiig order for  F-35 ‘Lemons’ for both RAF and FAA.
Fast forward 15 years, and a further 4 Tory PMs, we cannot defend the Kent Coast, we’re still skint and we are drowning in immigrants thanks to the Boriswave.
Incompetence or malice? Well, if it were incompetence they would occasionally make a mistake in our favour.
We also got Brexit, which, looking at the state of the EU looks like a net positive.
Thank you, Lords Cameron and Hague.
*Reported in Private Eye iirc, back when it was still any good.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 4 2025 21:42 utc | 284

Award ceremony for the developers of the Burevestnik cruise missile and the Poseydon unmanned underwater vehicle (Kremlin.ru, November 4, 2025 — in Russian)


I would especially like to highlight the unique performance of the missile’s powerful, ultra-small nuclear reactors. Startup takes seconds, while conventional reactors require hours or even days.
 
A new generation of weapons is already being developed based on such power plants. Moreover, development has begun on the next generation of nuclear-powered cruise missiles. Their speed will be more than three times the speed of sound, and in the future, they will become hypersonic.

Posted by: S | Nov 4 2025 21:49 utc | 285

@ ChatNPC | Nov 4 2025 21:42 utc | 285
 
Dear oh dear! I remember those days all too clearly. In my political naïvety back then I had actually voted LibDem, as a “none of the other two” choice – it seemed to be a choice between Compo (Brown), Foggy (Cameron) and Clegg (Clegg).
 
I certainly didn’t vote for the Rose Garden “Call me Dave” coalition that emerged, and proceeded to continue with the neoliberal demolition of the British economy and culture.
 
As for the F-35, my mind boggles at the idea of an updated software package being 5 years overdue. What the heck are they doing? Was the kernel originally built from scratch, but then the MBA’s took over and decided software development was cheaper if outsourced to India, having no regard for the legacy implications?
 
The F-35 should be given the designation of the “Combat-Shy Super-Recurring Invoice”…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 4 2025 22:06 utc | 286

Thinking on it further, the F-35 could well be a “Super High Invoice Total”…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 4 2025 22:11 utc | 287

Mid-week madness…
 
Please forgive me. I have no intention of offending anyone, but I have this irrational desire to be stupid. It may be the full moon. The moon is closer now than at almost any time. Look at the effect it has on tides. It also reduces my weight by a few hundredths of a gram when it is overhead – by the additional gravitational attraction force, you know. Think what that force could do to my brain, which is much more sensitive than my leg bones, or elbows. The moon affected me at birth, along with the position of the planets and the sun, pre-destining me to be an idiot. There was nothing I could do. There is no hope now.
 
I watched the Melbourne Cup horse race yesterday – magnificent animals. I had never noticed it before, but you know, every single one of those dumb animals (including the jockeys) were mouth-breathers! It was not a bad performance, as horse races go – but just imagine how the performance of those horses could be improved if they breathed through their nostrils and paced themselves – in a mindful manner, of course. Heaven knows their nostrils alone are big enough for the job. Have you actually seen the size of those things? Puts Jimmy (The Snoz) Durante to shame. And I’ll bet that none of them were even mindful about breathing during the race, or the intricacies of the mouth-nose dichotomy; although they could have been a bit distracted by the whip.
 
And don’t get me started on Olympic freestyle swimmers – bloody mouth-breathers, all of them, to the last place. If only they would breathe through their nose, be mindful, and pace themselves. I’ll contact the trainer and suggest that the free-stylers wear dummies with an open mouth painted on them. Then they can breathe through their noses, getting all the associated advantages, but their opponents won’t realise their disadvantage. The cunning nose-breathing dummy wearers  can sweep the pool (so to speak) with their painted decoys.
 
I’m currently developing a theory on abiotic oil production that ties together souls in the after-life, hell, and chi energy flow conversions. I hope I can finish it later, but right now I need to go and howl at the moon. I’m sure the neighbors will understand. They don’t call the police anywhere near as often as when I first moved here.

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 22:20 utc | 288

I need to go and howl at the moon. I’m sure the neighbors will understand. They don’t call the police anywhere near as often as when I first moved here.

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 22:20 utc | 289
 
Same here, I also find I have to shave a lot more, hairs sprouting from parts that don’t normally do that…
 
Aarwooooouughhh!!!

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 4 2025 22:28 utc | 289

full moon is tomorrow nov 5th – exact between 1-2pm london.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 22:44 utc | 290

@ Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2025 17:12 utc | 278
 
thanks sakineh! a fascinating consideration.. i hadn’t heard of this before…  i think there is ”something” to it too.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 22:46 utc | 291

@  psychohistorian | Nov 4 2025 16:23 utc | 275
 
thanks james! reading the comments backwards playing catch up.. i have read about these ideas for most of my life.. some ideas interest people and some don’t… i am interested in this so i will check it out.. thanks.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 22:48 utc | 292

full moon is tomorrow nov 5th – exact between 1-2pm london.. 
Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 22:44 utc | 291
 
***************
 
Ahah!! Now I understand – I have seen the light (of the full moon). All has been revealed!
 
Full Moon was today at 8:19 a.m. this morning, local time – just after breakfast. My first howl was a little late.
 
Up until now I could never understand why those poor, unfortunate Canadians always seemed so far behind. Particularly Canuk (hello, my friend :)) ). They always seem to be just missing out. And reminding us of what we already knew. Thanks for your help, James!
 
Us Aussies – always ahead of the curve! Yeah, mate…
 
(Yes, yes – I know; but when I’m desperate to demonstrate superiority I will seize every opportunity and dishonestly twist the facts to my advantage, while all the time hiding behind the defense of ‘strict correctness’; irrespective of whether the presentation is intentionally misleading. Herein endeth the mid-week madness homily.)

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 23:10 utc | 293

Things are certainly feeling a bit end-timey.
Trump’s (unwitting) Revelation of the Method with his speech to the Knesset.
Cats and dogs lying down together (Carlson/Fuentes, Owens/Finkelstein) and the GOP Israel Firsters wailing like banshees at the Genocide Convention 2025 (aka Republican Jewish Coalition) – “We’re killing all the right people and cutting your taxes*” – Warpig-in-Chief.
It’s like an Apprentice two-header The Rapture Edition where all the political ghouls come out to audition for Messiah and Anti-Christ respectively, Quite who the End Timers should throw their weight behind remains to be seen…
*rich folks only, natch. Yuk, yuk.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 5 2025 0:36 utc | 294

@ General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 23:10 utc | 294
 
lol! for some strange reason i thought you were a brit, lol… an aussie – right! says full moon nov 5th in sydney...  
 
is it the 5th yet in sydney? 

Posted by: james | Nov 5 2025 1:11 utc | 295

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 4 2025 23:10 utc | 294
 
Thanks for the merriment. 

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 5 2025 1:17 utc | 296

full moon is tomorrow nov 5th – exact between 1-2pm london.. Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 22:44 utc | 291
 
Happily during the day I was composing my Nov 4th celebration—   that is, it being a year until we in the US  elect our very own midterm  replacelments for Nancy and her ilk– I have not been voting but this time around I will, I will!  So having been since Nader officially green,  I composed a change of regisration to:-
 

INDEPENDENT

 
And duly walked this statement of intent down, down, to the mailbox and off it went!!!!!

Posted by: juliania | Nov 5 2025 1:21 utc | 297

full moon is tomorrow nov 5th – exact between 1-2pm london.. Posted by: james | Nov 4 2025 22:44 utc | 291
 
Happily during the day I was composing my Nov 4th celebration—   that is, it being a year until we in the US  elect our very own midterm  replacelments for Nancy and her ilk– I have not been voting but this time around I will, I will!  So having been since Nader officially green,  I composed a change of regisration to:-
 

INDEPENDENT

 
And duly walked this statement of intent down, down, to the mailbox and off it went!!!!!

Posted by: juliania | Nov 5 2025 1:21 utc | 298

So,  having made my declaration official hereon the moa week in review,  I duly pressed ‘enter’–  only to receive   the following admonition:
 
“You are posting comments too rapidly — slow down!”  (Or words to that effect.)
 
 
Hmm; is that you,  former VP?  Have I touched a nerve?   Fare thee well as you journey forth aross the eons until  whenever your enlightenment in the fullness of time will occur.  . . .  as will happen to us all…
 
😉

Posted by: juliania | Nov 5 2025 1:34 utc | 299

The cost of Canada’s PM Mark ‘Carnivorous’ Carney:
 
R2R: Canada’s War Budget
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I35MtIFLnDY
 
“The Canadian government has just proposed a budget that slashes the civil service while increasing military spending radically. Dimitri Lascaris examines Mark Carney’s war budget with Prof Radhika Desai, a geopolitical economist, and Yves Engler, an author and activist who is running to be the leader of Canada’s  New Democratic Party (NDP)*”
 
http://www.yvesforndpleader.ca

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 5 2025 2:35 utc | 300