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November 23, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-271

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A switch in infiltration, its usually the Zionists that brag about it.
 
“Israeli Army Radio: Hamas successfully infiltrated IDF WhatsApp groups using fake accounts, including groups like the ‘Egoz Recruits’ of the elite Egoz Unit. A Hamas intelligence operative was a member of the group”
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 23 2025 14:10 utc | 1

The Zio-Monsters can bomb Lebanon’s capital, and face no consequences at all.
 
“Israeli warplanes are still flying over Beirut, following the assassination strike on a building in Beirut, Lebanon.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 23 2025 14:15 utc | 2

Re my (2) comment this was the target.
 
“According to the Israeli Channel 12, Hezbollah’s Chief of Staff, Ali Tabatabai, was the target of Israeli assassination strike on Haret Hreik in southern Beirut”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 23 2025 14:16 utc | 3

The word ceasefire means nothing to the Zio-Monsters.
 
“The Gaza Government Media Office says the Israeli military has violated the Gaza ceasefire agreement at least 497 times in 44 days, killing hundreds of Palestinians and injuring many more ever since the truce between Hamas and the Tel Aviv regime came into effect on October 10.
A statement released on Saturday revealed that 342 civilians have lost their lives and 875 others have sustained injuries in the attacks, with the majority of the victims being children, women, and the elderly.
The office denounced Israel for systematically violating the agreement through deadly assaults and ongoing incursions.
It said a total of 27 violations were documented on Saturday, which resulted in 24 deaths and 87 injuries.
The media office characterized the pattern as a “flagrant breach” of international humanitarian law and the humanitarian protocol associated with the ceasefire arrangement.
Since October 10, Israel has committed 142 shootings aimed at civilians, residences, and displacement tents; 21 ground incursions past the so-called ‘yellow line’; 228 strikes from air, artillery, and ground forces; and 100 demolitions of civilian homes and structures, which constitutes ‘collective punishment’ and an attempt to escalate destruction, it further noted.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 23 2025 14:46 utc | 4

EU citizens MUST rise up and drag the pro-Zionist bigwigs out of office.
 
“The UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories says that European Union (EU) member states are directly enabling Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza. 
During a press conference at the European Parliament in Brussels on Tuesday, Francesca Albanese said that the EU and its member states have neglected their international obligations toward Gaza and Palestine. 
“It is a very grave situation that, particularly due to the objections of Germany and Italy, the suspension of the trade agreement with Israel has still not moved forward,” she remarked.
Albanese highlighted the ongoing ties between the EU and Israel, including arms shipments and Israel’s involvement in the Horizon Europe research program.
She emphasized that the EU is not only inactive but is actively supporting the destruction of Palestine, noting, “In my view, the situation is so dire that it is beyond comment.”
She pointed out that many violent Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank are citizens of European countries, with numerous Europeans having served in the Israeli army. 
An ethnic cleansing is occurring in the West Bank, unprecedented in the last 80 years, and is accompanied by significant violence, she stated.
“How can we discuss the future of Palestine when the population is disappearing and much of the land intended for the independent state of Palestine has been destroyed or is under occupation,” she said. 
Albanese warned of a looming genocide in the West Bank and the risk of complicity, stressing that this complicity threatens not only the survival of Palestine but also the fundamental values of the EU.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 23 2025 14:50 utc | 5

The Germans love their genocides, or at least backing them.
 
“Germany says it will lift restrictions on all military exports to Israel, even though the occupying regime continues to kill Palestinians in daily attacks across Gaza in violation of a ceasefire agreement with Hamas.
Government spokesman Stefan Kornelius told German news agency DPA on Monday that the measure will take effect on November 24, returning the country to a case-by-case review of arms export applications to the Israeli regime.
The spokesman pointed out that the decision was taken in light of the Gaza ceasefire agreement, which has been in effect since October 10. He also said that efforts were being made to achieve lasting peace and improve humanitarian aid in Gaza.
The remarks come as three Palestinians lost their lives in an Israeli strike targeting southern Gaza on Sunday.
Israeli forces persist in violating the ceasefire agreement, launching assaults on the devastated region amid restricted aid and harsh winter conditions, which worsen the hardships faced by those affected.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 23 2025 14:52 utc | 6

They couldn’t regime change Cuba,  so they placed sanctions on it decades ago – sanctions are WAR by other means – the US Terrorist state doesn’t like the taste of defeat.
 
“United Nations Special Rapporteur Alena Douhan has said the “suffocating” US sanctions must be stopped as they reshape life in the Republic of Cuba.
Douhan, on the negative impact of the unilateral coercive measures on the enjoyment of human rights, said during a media conference in Havana, Cuba, on Friday that the ongoing US sanctions are “suffocating the social fabric of Cuban society.”
The United States maintains a comprehensive economic embargo on Cuba, preventing American businesses and citizens from doing trade or commerce with Cuban interests since 1960, after the Cuban Revolution led by leftist Fidel Castro.
The UN rapporteur criticized the US sanctions against Cuba, pointing out that the decades-long embargo is “causing significant effects across all aspects of life” in the Latin American state.
Douhan said that US sanctions have caused shortages of food, medicine, electricity, water, essential machinery, and spare parts in Cuba, while a growing emigration of skilled workers, including medical staff, engineers, and teachers, is further straining the country.
The UN Special Rapporteur noted that the “extensive regime of economic, trade and financial restrictions” against Cuba is the longest-running unilateral sanctions policy in US history.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 23 2025 14:57 utc | 7

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 21st November 2025: May be Useful to Some:  Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update  Covers Gaza and ME.

Posted by: The Busker | Nov 23 2025 15:17 utc | 8

Never forget how Russia and China betrayed the Palestinians.
 
 
 
 
———Called Israel “one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking” and argued that Russian-speaking Israelis are his “compatriots” and part of the “Russian world.”——————“1.5 million Israeli citizens come from the former Soviet Union, they speak the Russian language, are the bearers of Russian culture, Russian mentality.”————–“I support Israel’s battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected.”—————-“Israel knows first-hand how to fight terrorism, and, in this sense, we are unconditional allies.”————–“Citizens of Russia and Israel are connected by ties of family, kinship and friendship. … Israel has almost 2 million Russian-speaking citizens. We consider Israel a Russian-speaking state.”————“We in Russia attach great importance to our contacts with Israel. And not only because Israel is an important country, one of the key countries in the situation in the Middle East, but also due to historical relations between our states.…in this sense, we are unconditional allies.”—————” Putin suggested that Israel offered a model for how different peoples (here referenced as Slavic peoples) might live together: “Israel as a model of unity for Ukrainians and Russians.”—————“Citizens of Russia and Israel are connected by ties of family, kinship and friendship… Israel has almost 2 million Russian-speaking citizens. We consider Israel a Russian-speaking state.”—————-“Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country.”——————-“Russia and Israel have developed a special relationship… this makes the interstate relations very special.”—————————–“We in Russia attach great importance to our contacts with Israel… Israel is an important country, one of the key countries in the Middle East.”———————-“I am confident that relations between Russia and Israel, based on principles of friendship and mutual respect, will continue to develop for the benefit of our peoples.”

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 15:49 utc | 9

Lebanon is attacked almost daily now, impressive one sided “ceasefire” indeed. Same as in Gaza/West Bank, the same will be on Syria after. The idea that the world is shifting to multipolar world is meaningless in 2025. No unity between the so called Global South and no pressure made on the Western powers to actually stop arming Israel. Continue the talk on the climate/AI stuff, while still using the global systems created by the very people that don’t care about any of these things.

Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 23 2025 15:58 utc | 10

From the previous thread, regarding the Chinese and Russian UNSC vote
 
Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 22 2025 23:55 utc | 451

…In short, there were only 3 options:

1) Vote for it on the SC. To do so slows the rate of the genocide, temporarily, and implicitly approves genocide and colonisation. Nothing to be gained from that one.

2) Vote against, with veto power thus blocking it. Bibi throws his little hat in the air and says ‘Woohoo, it’s back on boys! Moar bombs away!’. Not an option.

3) Abstain. FUKUS and their minions will push it through anyway. Let them own the whole shitshow and the opprobium of the ROW. And that, my little ones, is realpolitik…

I understand the idea behind this reasoning, but the acts on the ground do not support it. Point number 2 implies that Israel is currently hampered in its belligerence. But if you have been reading the daily submissions by Michaelj and Teri, it is clear that Israel is completely free to pursue the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank and East Jerusalem.
 
I would, in fact, argue that the current post “ceasefire” situation is more favourable to Israeli belligerence inasmuch as the Western public has been led to believe that the war is over. Whatever (little) attention it may have previously focused on the region has today shifted to other subjects. In the minds of many, Gaza is a resolved issue.
 
I suspect Israel didn’t expect to be able to take the violence so far, and with such unwavering support. Past wars have been a matter of months, not years, and the destruction not nearly as methodical and thorough. With the gross demolition phase over, Israel can dial “down” the violence cursor to a mere 8 and pursue its longtime goals with impunity.

Posted by: robin | Nov 23 2025 16:19 utc | 11

A Chinese scholar interviewed by Pascal Lottaz on Neutrality Studies has an interesting take on the lack of veto.

Posted by: Tom | Nov 23 2025 16:48 utc | 12

The goals of the Israeli regime remain 
Keep Bibi out of jail, prevent an election
Destroy the left wing
Increase worldwide antisemitism 
 
No change over the past 3-years, the Aza Show and other atrocities have nothing to do with arabs

Posted by: Polli | Nov 23 2025 17:22 utc | 13

And to Painter and other koombaya’s, Russia sees Israel as a card to be turned not an independent party with agency.
Israeli society sees things differently

Posted by: Polli | Nov 23 2025 17:26 utc | 14

Hezbollah Chief of Staff just got vaporized by the IDF. Let’s see if they have any balls left, Beirut is supposed to be a “red line”. 

Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Nov 23 2025 18:02 utc | 15

” And to Painter and other koombaya’s, Russia sees Israel as a card to be turned not an independent party with agency.Israeli society sees things differently
Posted by: Polli | Nov 23 2025 17:26 utc | 14
 
 
I’m game. elaborate further. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 18:13 utc | 16

Muhammed Z 15
People who are ” vaporised” even by cremation will be digitally reprinted on the Day of Judgement. Of course we don’t know how God does that,  but maybe something along the lines of DNA.
 
So what? The Zionist genociders will  be digitally reprinted anf be cast into the fire of Hell.
I am listening to Manuel Ramos talking with Pascal Lottaz about the one thousand year Millennialist Globalist. plan to capture Jerusalem. 
 
One thousand years of nutters, now in the grotesque manifestation of Nutteryahu and his guru Humph.
 
 

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 23 2025 18:36 utc | 17

“RUSSIAS FM SPOKESPERSONMARIA ZAKHAROVAEVISCERATES ISRAELDanny Haiphong asked Russia’s FM Spokesperson Maria Zakharova for her response to Western critics frustrated with the Kremlin’s stance toward Israel and its vote on UN Resolution 2803.”
 
Well you can get it from the horse’s mouth here.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 18:54 utc | 18

Oop. Russian Spokesperson Maria Zakharova

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 18:55 utc | 19

Sorry I can’t post a link for some reason.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 18:58 utc | 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayTLqbpAFEc

Posted by: bassplayer | Nov 23 2025 19:14 utc | 21

A more detailed account of the negotiation process leading to the flawed UNSC Resolution is available at the following link:
 
https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/whatsinblue/2025/11/the-middle-east-including-the-palestinian-question-vote-on-a-draft-resolution-to-authorise-an-international-stabilization-force-in-gaza.php
 
Related, no country has yet stepped forward pledging to deploy troops for the ISF plan (beyond expressing potential interest). Since the Americans envisage this mission as a “peace-making” expedition rather than a “peace-keeping” responsibility, it is difficult to envision any Muslim-majority state agreeing to overtly act in the interests of Israel, particularly in context of the obvious genocidal destruction. Particularly if there is a concurrent scheme of an Israel/ISF zone of reconstruction versus a Palestinian zone of poverty and ruin. 
 
The scheme has little to no support at a state level outside the Security Council (and was viewed as an unfortunate compromise there), and no support from the global majority of civil society. These opinions will intensify as the images of the ruined wasteland of Gaza continue to distribute.
 
Israel is trying very hard to disrupt the declared ceasefires in both Gaza and Lebanon, evidenced in part by the false reports yesterday that Hamas had declared the process “finished”, and the assassination attempt in Beirut. The invisibility of the presumed “guarantors” of the ceasefire process is the active scandal at this point. 
 
The American-authored UNSC Resolution may never be realized due to its contradictions and failure to fully understand the whole scope of the crisis, particularly the unhinged pathology Israel has internalized.

Posted by: jayc | Nov 23 2025 19:22 utc | 22

” RUSSIAS FM SPOKESPERSONMARIA ZAKHAROVAEVISCERATES ISRAELDanny Haiphong asked Russia’s FM Spokesperson Maria Zakharova for her response to Western critics frustrated with the Kremlin’s stance toward Israel and its vote on UN Resolution 2803.”
Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 18:54 utc | 19
 
Talking after the fact is not very convincing.
 
– The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, explained on her Facebook why she wears the Star of David –
 
Maria Zakharova told why she wears the Star of David — Politics (Rashit Kharrasov) — NewsLand

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 19:30 utc | 25

Dialogue Works
 
Craig Mokhiber: West Asia: The Endless War They Don’t Want You To Understand
 
https://www.youtube.com/live/viQTGnjjjps?si=pCv34LE_-c1ZnuHC
 
Craig gives a coherency picture of Russia and China on the UN vote. He points out that the mafia empire’s is winning. The opposition in disunited, self-interested, coopted or crushed.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 20:36 utc | 26

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 19:30 utc | 26
 
Her answer was deeply concerning and a bad message to send to Iran and the RoW. It’s definitely a realist political ideology in play. 
 
Well, John Mearsheimer has been right all along. Uggg.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 20:51 utc | 27

18
 
Manuel Ramos ‘ description of Holy Roman Empire Feudal eschatology kinda ties in with tbe ancient rituals performed in Westminster Abbey at Charles ‘ coronation. 
But that is  history . As i said previously, wars are planned nowadays by men and women  in dark suits sitting in Global Financial corporations, and executed by proxies like UAE- and Isrsel.
 
Interestingly,  the founder of the Sunni , Seljuk,  Anatolian – Persian Empire was a Khazarian  by birth and convert/ revert to Islam. How is it that in the days of horses snd oxen, one man’s religious convctions can change the world, but these highly paid suits in global offices are unable to change anything even with the entire US weapons aresenal and  media circus at their disposal?
 
Biden and Trump’s Khazarian mafia,  fatuous plans to create Greater Israel will be trashed by the ancient Seljuk Khazarian empire of Iran.
I can’t wait to see their silly faces when it happens.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 23 2025 21:18 utc | 28

“Well, John Mearsheimer has been right all along. Uggg.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 20:51 utc | 28 “
 
Please elaborate.

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 21:58 utc | 29

” Posted by: Giyane | Nov 23 2025 21:18 utc | 29
 
Care to address these points?
 
https://youtu.be/wy_iD6Lf6MY?t=1629

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 21:59 utc | 30

Canadian Soldiers Went To Israel This Week
 
https://x.com/EnglerYves/status/1991901251995644363
 
“Canadian soldiers are currently participating in IOF seminars on its war crimes in Gaza, even reportedly conducting tours in the Gaza envelope. Email Mark Carney and FM Anita Anand to demand Canada cease all military ties with this lawless genocidal apartheid state.”
 
mark.carney@parl.gc.ca
anita.anand@parl.gc.ca

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 23 2025 22:26 utc | 31

The Painter 31
 
I don’ t  click bait. Must be because I am an old trout. Or vice versa.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 23 2025 22:37 utc | 32

MEE: Andreas Krieg: ‘The Sinister UAE’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au8rfmdUGvo
 
“Not just Sudan. How the UAE have wrecked Libya, Yemen and Egypt.”
 
No wonder  PM Mark ‘Goldman-Sachs’ Carney is so determined to hook Canada up with this ‘sinister’ US strategic partner (and BRICS member).
 
‘We’re Building Big Things – and the UAE Wants To Build With Us’
 
https://x.com/MarkCarney/status/1991992427461435759

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 23 2025 22:39 utc | 33

Please elaborate. – Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 21:58 utc | 30

He has always had a realist view of geopolitics. Where great powers will always act in their own interests. Where every exchange is transactional. He doesn’t like it but that is reality.
 
A world where you condemn a people to genocide for a few drops of oil. 
 
It’s not a Western view or value; it’s a global one. He is being proven correct.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 23 2025 22:41 utc | 34

“I don’ t  click bait. Must be because I am an old trout. Or vice versa.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 23 2025 22:37 utc | 33
 
 
Oh, I’m pretty sure you clicked it. Thanks for playing. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 22:55 utc | 35

Re: 27
 
Mokhiber: The UN Embraces Colonialism
 
https://mondoweiss.net/2025/11/the-un-embraces-colonialism-upacking-the-security-councils-mandate-for-the-u-s-colonial-administration-of-gaza/
 
“The Security Council’s backing of the Trump plan for Gaza ignores international law, punishes the Palestinians, and rewards those responsible for genocide.”
 
 
RB: Craig Mokhiber: ‘Historic Betrayal’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wc8UCkWdKA
 
“UNSC approves US plan to control Gaza as Russia, China abstain.”
 
 
ZOG…(& vid)
 
https://x.com/TheSaviour/status/1991811693866025392
 
“Trump welcomed freed Israeli soldiers, called them heroes, gave them medals…”
 
 
The Shadowy Double-Dealing Behind the UNSC Resolution Legitimising Trump’s Final Solution For Gaza
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whgEoX8jP6A
 
“Fiorella Isabel and I sit down to discuss the UN Security Council Resolution 2803 and Trump’s genocidal ‘peace’ plan for Gaza…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 23 2025 23:02 utc | 36

The East is a Podcast: ‘Struggle Session 6’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atcT85b2Q0
 
“Nerdeen Kiswani, Sina Rahmani, Henry Hakamaki and Mehmet Al Arslan.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 0:34 utc | 37

Struggle Session 6 (corrected)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atcT85b2qQ0
 
Includes good discussion of Mamdani phenomenon.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 0:38 utc | 38

It’s impossible for the world to change if we keep sitting around watching television…
 
Hollywood!
Yes, how wonderful! To think that the world can begin in a movie and from there move to a possible alternative reality, or at least a simulatable one, or minimally marketable… but it’s not like that, the charade ended a long time ago! Anyway…
Have you noticed that ninety percent of movies begin with a harmless old man, dignifiedly serious and content with his life, reminiscing about the old days?
He has survived everything, not only bullets and knives, not only precipices and explosions, snipers… but also tobacco and alcohol, the loneliness of power, drugs and bad company, corruption, venereal diseases, scorpions, venomous snakes, techno music, mosquitoes… just another Yankee finally getting the chance to rest, after having circled the globe “saving the world” eight or nine times…
No exaggeration! Because these South Americans complicate everything! It doesn’t matter how many times they restore good government, or how much they cleanse their populations of bad elements! But neither do the Europeans, nor the Indians, the Russians, the Chinese, or the Black Africans, the poor, the Arabs who refuse to give up their corner of the world, the simply poor, those who walk because they don’t have a car… The hopelessly idiotic ones who defend birds and flowers, preventing the exploitation of oil and gold!!!
The list is endless! Everyone keeps ruining their plans, making it impossible for any American to rest easy without thinking about packing their bags and heading to another country to sort things out once and for all.
 
https://textosandroides.blogspot.com/2025/11/recuerdos-fallidos.html

Posted by: Santi | Nov 24 2025 0:43 utc | 39

The Zionist West has recognized that Turkiye has become a military, political, and economic threat to the Zionist state of Israel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHBNQKhwo-Y
Thus, Donald Trump will designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization to protect the Zionist state of Israel.https://www.jpost.com/international/article-874923
Consequently, Turkiye will be under pressure to suppress a strong Muslim Brotherhood presence and control the ISIS-led “government” of Syria. Likewise, Trump’s goal will support the El Sisi coup government of Egypt against the former Muslim Brotherhood-led government to protect Israel’s Southern flank.
The UN Security Council vote setting up the US-backed satrap of Gaza administered by Tony Blair as the new Viceroy will allow Israel and the western oil companies to develop the 1.1 trillion cubic feet of natural gas in the Gaza Marine natural gas field. The Gaza occupation will also accelerate the development of the Levant gas field, which is estimated to contain another 122 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-israel-brutal-drive-seize-palestinian-gas-reserves
Thus far, Turkiye is the only Muslim country to offer “peacekeeping troops” for the Gaza UN occupation, but this has been rejected by the Zionist State of Israel and the US.   Suppose Israeli client states are the only participants in this UN farce. In that case, the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza and ultimately the West Bank, currently ruled by the Quisling Abbas government, will be completed.

Posted by: Krollchem | Nov 24 2025 2:01 utc | 41

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 21:59 utc | 31
I see why he does not wish to address the points

Posted by: Painter2 | Nov 24 2025 2:01 utc | 42

GD: Prof Mohammad Marandi
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w-CM3boCfM
 
“Legitimizing occupation and preparing for war.”
 
 
Mahmood OD: ‘Hizbollah Commander Assassinated
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/videos
 
“Israeli terrorism strikes Beirut. Response ahead?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 2:24 utc | 43

GD: Prof M Marandi (corrected)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w-Cm3boCfM

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 2:31 utc | 44

43 
 
Why would I address The Painter’s talking points when he could never address mine?  For example @ 29.
If he was able to  address even one point I have ever made, he would , as Jesus AS said about the Jews maybe , be sitting in sackcloth and covering his head with ashes , weeping and repenting to his Lord. Lol

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 24 2025 2:48 utc | 45

Israeli Channel 11
 
https://x.com/HaidarAkarar/1992587872860545226
 
“Kaan quoted an Israeli official as saying : The targeting in the southern suburb of Beirut was carried out in coordination with the Americans.”
 
 
Death to USrael

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 2:48 utc | 46

” Posted by: Giyane | Nov 24 2025 2:48 utc | 46
 
I didnt address that point because it wasn’t directed at me. Plus I dont care for any of the Abrahamic faiths, meaning I have no dog in your silly squabbles. I was just curious how a Muslim would address the points raised by that Christian. Just like I’m interested to hear Christians address the points raised by Muslims. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 3:03 utc | 47

Brian Berletic: ‘Al Qaeda in the White House & Implications For Beyond It’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtwwk5cuOvU
 
“The US has once again changed the status of terrorists of its own creation to open allies with the head of Al Qaeda in Syria…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 3:06 utc | 48

48
 
Divide and rule eh? There isn’t any difference between the Islam of  Abraham and the Islam of any other of His prophets, may Allah’s Peace and Blessings be upon them all.
 
Allah created the Universe to test our willingness to use our hearts  and minds to do good. Genociding 8 million people in Palestine to build a Pagan Temple to Mammon isn’t included in the concept of what is good. 
 
Listen to the end of the discussion between Manuel Ramos and Pascal Lottaz. The medieval Christian  globalists saw Africa as the progeny of Noah’s bad son Cem? Despite Africa being mostly Muslim  at the time of Jesus AS.
So UAE’s genocide , Dubai’s genocide. in Sudan on behalf of the modern Globalists like Trump is in reality a Christian, White Supremacist Crusade against Islam.
 
So in God’s eyes, Dubai ,like the Sauds , appears to be a Sunni country that is sctively attacking Islam on behalf of  the American   Pope’s  Roman Catholicismbbb
Therefore,   neither Political Islam working for Christianity , nor Chritianity itself are Abrahamic religions.  
They are inventions of Medieval Feudal Paganism.. Hence Kashoggi, Kushner and Dubai. 
Qatar is the same. Oman , Jordan, Egypt and the colonial era government in  Lebanon of Auon is the same. Russia and its Bolshevic Communism is the same. 
 
The Hamas rebellion on Oct 7 has succeeded in sorting the sheep from the goats big time. Most of West Asian political leadership has scuttled under the petticoats of Western Medieval Feudal Paganis  politically in abject submission to Trump’s Medieval Feudal Paganism.
Its people are still Muslim. And the only thing Russia and the Gulfies  can think to do at the UN, is to join Trump’s Medieval Feudal Paganism in suppressing and oppressing  the Muslims.
 
This is Destiny writ large. Interesting times.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 24 2025 4:09 utc | 49

Care to address these points?
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 21:59 utc | 31

 
Isn’t it quite paradoxical, beyond this unhealthy obsession some have regarding Islam, in total disregard for the Palestinian people, that those who try to prove that the Muslim prophet didn’t exist also try to prove that he was a pedo ?

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 24 2025 5:00 utc | 50

The creation of the ‘cult’ of Judaism was only 50 years before the birth of  Muhammad. Both religions were created as a counter to Christianity . Which is entirely Hellenic in Logos . Apollonius . God is the “ Spirit “, not the cult . He is not owned by squabbling idiots . They can make you believe anything . That Gaza Project is the moral pit of the hell on earth you have created in your evil . Alexander the Great is buried in St Marks … Venice , because he wasn’t a fan of Abraham . 

Posted by: Kapodistrias | Nov 24 2025 5:15 utc | 51

 
see the 35-second video at the second link
 
 
 
https://x.com/battleforeurope/status/1991859704474005712
Thomas Fazi @battleforeurope   
 
John Mearsheimer on the shameful UN resolution placing Gaza under US-Israeli colonial administration:   
 
“The resolution is disgraceful… You have the two states which have been executing the genocide, the US and Israel, in charge, while the victims, the Palestinians, who are hoping for some form of self-determination, will get none. They’re going be treated like colonial victims, people who need guardianship to run them. It’s hard to believe that in 2025 this is where we’re at. But this is, I think, what we have gotten with this UN resolution”.
 
————–
 
https://x.com/OunkaOnX/status/1992645590250049779
Ounka  @OunkaOnX 
 
“I want to exterminate them, every last one of them.. Yes, the Palestinians, all of them” – Israel’s Channel 13 News 
 
The language of “extermination” is now prime-time news in Israel. They have learned nothing from history except the methods of their own oppressors.
 
————-
 
https://x.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1992519407323767137
Alan MacLeod  @AlanRMacLeod 
 
The United Nations has just passed a resolution attempting to end “torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment and punishment.” 
 
Three countries voted against it: 
 
The United States 🇺🇸
Israel 🇮🇱
Argentina 🇦🇷
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 24 2025 5:58 utc | 52

 
see the 30-second video at the first link
 
see the photos at the second link
 
see the 1:00 video at the third link
 
 
 
https://x.com/CensoredHumans/status/1992279405121638526
Censored Humans  @CensoredHumans 
 
A war crime they filmed and posted: 
 
An Israeli soldier shares footage of his unit blowing up the Canada Well reservoir in Tel al-Sultan neighborhood, Rafah. 
 
Aim: to ensure Palestinians cannot drink water. 
 
They are demonic…
 
————-
 
https://x.com/AbujomaaGaza/status/1992782896139046974
Motasem A Dalloul  @AbujomaaGaza 
 
Israeli violations of Trump’s ceasefire in Gaza: 
 
▪️342 killed in Israeli military attacks 
▪️875 wounded in Israeli military attacks
▪️35 kidnapped by the Israeli military
 
————–
 
https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/1992768795501617262
Ihab Hassan @IhabHassane 
 
Israeli intelligence forces raided the Hakawati Theatre in occupied Jerusalem, shut down a Palestinian children’s performance, and gave the audience five minutes to leave — apartheid in action, enforced only against Palestinians.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 24 2025 7:37 utc | 53

50
 
Imo the Banking Corporations employ  madmen to fit the religious eschatology to their shopping list of asset countries.
 
All Christian and Jewish  eschatology is advertising drivel. I was sent to school with these pirates. They hate Sunni Islam .

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 24 2025 7:40 utc | 54

“Germany says it will lift restrictions on all military exports to Israel, even though the occupying regime continues to kill Palestinians in daily attacks across Gaza in violation of a ceasefire agreement with Hamas.“
Well but at least you can not blame Germany to profit of Genocide, since they give most of the stuff for free to the entity 
Would be a interesting investigation. This deals are probably done via state loans given to the buyer or the state paying the producer first and than getting a piece of paper or bonds as payment.
 

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Nov 24 2025 9:47 utc | 55

Pigniyf ,Giyane and Love Donbass are long-con recruiters for Islam. Great posters on all but Islam ;  where you can drive through their biases and cover-ups. Enough said. 

Posted by: Petrus and Patroklos | Nov 24 2025 10:21 utc | 56

Juliana, post 268 on previous Palestine OT–   “The bathwater does its job; it can be poured out on the garden to nourish our soil for the fruits of it all to be enjoyed. The washing is needful ; each of us need to wash. To scrub hard if the dirt requires it! So, no, don’t throw the OT in the dumpster; but the garden can use it as mulch.”
 
Your gardening allegory of the OT as fertilizer for Christianity is illuminating. It reminds that there are important interpretations which are opposite to the repulsive appropriation by William Lane Craig. In particular,  for example, how the spirituals of  the black church based on OT stories inspired a struggle for liberation of 100s of years. Another example is liberation theology based on Christianity. Recently in my life, I have come to my own understanding of original sin as it relates to the aspects and limitations of us humans. This incantation, ‘Have mercy, Lord Jesus, for I am a sinner,’ is a reminder of daily fallibility, of the errors one made that day in thinking and perhaps in action toward others. To my mind, this also entails your discussion of how the OT is embedded in Christianity. However, my knowledge of this subject is very limited, having lived without belief for much of my life (which doesn’t mean I was not imbued with various belief systems).  But I have come to believe that human existence entails sin, to each other and to the planet. Although redemption is still possible.
 
In my post 427, which you refer to, it would have been better to deconstruct the false premises of Craig, but thinking I did not have the time, I took the cursory position that I did. What should have been thrown in the dumpster was, of course, Craig’s text. I appreciate that your post encouraged me to think more expansively on this.
 
Spirituality is to be desired and I have often admired many Christian people. (As I said, I had a secular Protestant upbringing.) I confess to having not read Martin Buber, although at times I cited him as an example that real left politics need not eschew spirituality.  I saw a summary of a Chapter by Uri Ram, “Buber Between Left and Right” in the book Jews and Left Politics (2017). I understand that Buber believed in ‘spiritual zionism’ as opposed to ‘political Zionism,’ and always supported the idea of Jews and Palestinians occupying Palestine.
 
According to this summary of Ram’s chapter, “For Buber the prime goal of Zionism was the rescue of Judaism and its revival, rather than the rescue of Jews. From his perspective Zionism was not just one more ordinary national movement; Zionism was, rather, the present manifestation of the old sacred covenant between the Land of Israel, the people, and God.”
 
However it seems now that, any idea of a zionism different from what we see in the total destruction of Gaza, has been effaced, and Judaism may not recover from this crime for too far into the future to envision. Many Christians are also guilty, as we see in the ‘philosophy’ of ‘Christian apologetics,’ aside from the Scofield bible, etc. Of course the crime has become so widespread that the religious aspect is overshadowed by politics, the colluding and conceding by nation states under the present control of the powers that rule.
 
I had hoped to find out a text by Buber to read first, but seem to have gone off in this direction. There is a sentence I don’t understand, if you would care to explain it at this point:
“Promises are not kept by the people who followed those wrote about God, and promises not kept are not honored by God; actions have consequences.”
 
I would like to read Buber on Moses. What book can I read? I thank you for your inspiring, so well-expressed input.
 
 
 
It was not an impossibility that Jews and Arabs could have lived together, but for the present the right’s total destruction of Gaza has made that impossible, and it looks like any idea of ‘spiritual zionism’ has 

Posted by: Lavieja | Nov 24 2025 11:46 utc | 57

Three countries voted against it: 
 
The United States 🇺🇸Israel 🇮🇱Argentina 🇦🇷 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 24 2025 5:58 utc | 53
 
Wut? The only explanation for this is that Canada abstained.
 
This could be good news. Now we can torture the truth out of them before the trials.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 24 2025 13:27 utc | 58

DW: Mohammad Marandi
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3gFnsMmBM
 
“A new Warsaw Pact? Russia & Iran move to challenge NATO.”
 
Be careful Iran.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 14:30 utc | 59

Nor does it apply tot he Yanks or Germans or Brits – and several other Nato/EU nations,  but it does apply to the Global South.
 
Monitor𝕏 (@MonitorX99800): “🇮🇱⚡- Israel’s Minister of Finance Smotrich: International law doesn’t apply to Jews. That’s the difference between the chosen people and others.” | nitter.poast.org

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 14:36 utc | 60

Pigniyf ,Giyane and Love Donbass are long-con recruiters for Islam. Great posters on all but Islam ; where you can drive through their biases and cover-ups. Enough said. 
 
Posted by: Petrus and Patroklos | Nov 24 2025 10:21 utc | 61
 
Muslims rarely advertise Nick Fuentes or Hal Turner. LD is definitely not a woman, as some might believe, and is a white supremacist cloaking their Anglin style views as a pretend Muslim.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 24 2025 14:47 utc | 62

Live Blog: Day 780
 
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/liveblog-renewed-israeli-bombardment-in-the-strip-and-military-movements-near-lebanon-day-780/
 
“Renewed Israeli bombardment in the Strip and military movements near Lebanon. Hezbollah’s zero hour: Why not responding to Tabtabai’s assassination invites Israeli occupation of Lebanon…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 14:53 utc | 64

A snapshot of where some of the Zio-Nazi’s are really from – none are from Palestine.
 
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Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 14:58 utc | 66

Anybody who says Jews can’t be Nazi’s has never been to Israel.
 

Posted by: Polli | Nov 24 2025 15:04 utc | 68

The idea that Islam needs to recruit is so laughable it is quite possibly retarded.
 
From people who don’t understand Islam nor have an inclination to learn.
 
Meanwhile, I am called both a racist and a white supremacist. We need better quality hasbara agents…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2025 15:09 utc | 70

see the 1:29 video at the link. Finkelstein on Piers Morgan
 
 
 
https://x.com/aldamu_jo/status/1992108858215461090
Irlandarra  @aldamu_jo 
 
“You said that Israel is at war with Hamas let me ask you a simple question. 
 
If you’re at war with Hamas, why are you shooting children in the skull & in the chest? why are you killing journalists? Why are you killing medics? Why are you killing UN workers?” 
 
Norman Finkelstein
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 24 2025 15:10 utc | 71

Meanwhile, I am called both a racist and a white supremacist. We need better quality hasbara agents…
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2025 15:09 utc | 75
 
You’re a chameleon with no fixed principles. Even white supremacy and Muslim fundamentalism have some kind of ethics. You’re just a cipher hiding your true purposes. If you’re not actually a fed.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 24 2025 15:16 utc | 73

Despite ‘Ceasefire,’ Israel Massacres Dozens in Gaza and Lebanon Over the Weekend
 
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/24/jsrf-n24.html
 
“…A White House official praised this weekend’s murderous attack, telling Israel’s Channel 12, ‘We are pleased with the elimination of the number two in Hezbollah,’ adding, ‘We think it’s a wonderful thing.’
 
After the attack, Netanyahu’s office boasted: ‘…Israel is determined to act to achieve its objectives everywhere at all costs.’
 
Sunday’s bombing took place just days after the UN Security Council adopted a US-drafted resolution promoted as a ‘peace’ plan that makes permanent the Israeli occupation of Gaza and the colonial domination of Palestine.
 
Craig Mokhiber, former director of the New York office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, condemned the vote on X.
 
The UN Security Council has just adopted the horrific US resolution with 13 yes votes and 2 abstentions. Not a single member of the Council had the courage, principle, or respect for international law to vote against this US-Israel colonial outrage.’
 
He added that the proposal has been rejected by defenders of human rights and international law everywhere. 17 November 2025 is a day of shame for the United Nations and for governments around the world on their knees before the US empire and its violent Israeli client.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 15:33 utc | 74

“The idea that Islam needs to recruit is so laughable it is quite possibly retarded.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2025 15:09 utc | 75
 
As shown in modern times, “conqueror” also means when Muslims become the numerical majority in a region or territory. Europe is becoming a good example of this. Christianity was also guilty of conversion through force. 
Let’s be honest “religious” types. Your believes were spread through blood and violence because you serve false gods. Stop living in error and come walk with the Creator. 
 
 
 
” In territories conquered by early Muslim forces, inhabitants were typically given three choices, according to historical sources and Islamic legal tradition: 

  1. Embrace Islam: Convert to Islam and become part of the Muslim community, sharing in the same rights and duties.
  2. Submit and pay jizya: Keep their existing religions (especially “People of the Book,” such as Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians, later extended to others like Hindus and Buddhists) by surrendering, acknowledging Muslim rule, and paying a special protection tax called jizya. This granted them “dhimmi” status, allowing them to practice their faith with some autonomy and safety.
  3. Fight: Refuse the other two options and continue the state of war. If they chose this option and were defeated, they faced potential expropriation, enslavement, or death. “

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 15:40 utc | 75

” Meanwhile, I am called both a racist and a white supremacist. We need better quality hasbara agents… Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2025 15:09 utc | 75 ”
 
But you are a vile anti-European racist dear cat lady. Proclaim your hate, dont hide behind denials. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 15:45 utc | 76

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Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 14:58 utc | 71
 
Those demons arent really from those countries , those were just the last places they infected before coming to Palestine. However, Putin seems to think a majority of them are Russian. 
 
 
 
 
———Called Israel “one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking” and argued that Russian-speaking Israelis are his “compatriots” and part of the “Russian world.”——————
“1.5 million Israeli citizens come from the former Soviet Union, they speak the Russian language, are the bearers of Russian culture, Russian mentality.”————–
“I support Israel’s battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected.”—————-
“Israel knows first-hand how to fight terrorism, and, in this sense, we are unconditional allies.”————–
“Citizens of Russia and Israel are connected by ties of family, kinship and friendship. … Israel has almost 2 million Russian-speaking citizens. We consider Israel a Russian-speaking state.”————
“We in Russia attach great importance to our contacts with Israel. And not only because Israel is an important country, one of the key countries in the situation in the Middle East, but also due to historical relations between our states.…in this sense, we are unconditional allies.”—————
” Putin suggested that Israel offered a model for how different peoples (here referenced as Slavic peoples) might live together: “Israel as a model of unity for Ukrainians and Russians.”—————
“Citizens of Russia and Israel are connected by ties of family, kinship and friendship… Israel has almost 2 million Russian-speaking citizens. We consider Israel a Russian-speaking state.”—————-
“Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country.”——————-
“Russia and Israel have developed a special relationship… this makes the interstate relations very special.”—————————–
“We in Russia attach great importance to our contacts with Israel… Israel is an important country, one of the key countries in the Middle East.”———————-
“I am confident that relations between Russia and Israel, based on principles of friendship and mutual respect, will continue to develop for the benefit of our peoples.”

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 15:52 utc | 78

Asylum seekers dingy rammed in an attempt to sink it by the Greek coastguard – whatever you think of these people – no coast guard should trying to sink and drown the people in the dingy. Watch the short clip.
 
GhostofDurruti (@DurrutiRiot): “You’re watching Greek coastguards deliberately ramming asylum seeker families in the Aegean today. Attempted murder by any normal human standard. Fck these Nazis and the governments that fund them. No human being is illegal.” | nitter.poast.org
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 15:58 utc | 79

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 23 2025 15:49 utc | 9

Apologies, im unable to care about pseduointellectal moral relativistics and PR style deflection. Russia and China have nothing to answer for. The West has supplied every bullet and bomb used to flatten Gaza and used the American veto to shield Israel from any consequences across decades from both Team Blue and Team Red because both are Team Israel. Because the politicans are foreign agents, something the youth is waking up to.
Take your ‘whatabout Russia and China’ and faux morality and shove it up your ass, ‘painter’.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 24 2025 16:13 utc | 80

” Meanwhile, I am called both a racist and a white supremacist. We need better quality hasbara agents”…
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2025 15:09 utc | 75 ”
 “But you are a vile anti-European racist dear cat lady. Proclaim your hate, don’t hide behind denials. ”
 
 
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 15:45 utc | 81
 
Dumbass is racist towards Whites, he readily admits that-but in his mind it is not ‘racism’ as the Whites, currently, have positions of power so it not racism.
 
It’s pure hate-he’s not much of a Muslim.
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 24 2025 16:19 utc | 82

Good article.
 
“Gaza illustrates many deep problems in British governance and exposes the illusion that the UK is a democracy. A mass movement is needed to address ten major issues.”
 
 
Gaza reveals how Britain is run, and why we must change it

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 16:21 utc | 83

“Meanwhile, I am called both a racist and a white supremacist. We need better quality hasbara agents…”
 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2025 15:09 utc | 75
 “You’re a chameleon with no fixed principles. Even white supremacy and Muslim fundamentalism have some kind of ethics. You’re just a cipher hiding your true purposes. If you’re not actually a fed.”
 
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 24 2025 15:16 utc | 78
 
You nailed it.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 24 2025 16:23 utc | 84

Accepting funding and hospitality from an illegal occupying force which is committing genocide – they should all be in the dock at the Hague.
 
“Some 180 of Britain’s 650 MPs in the last parliament accepted funding from pro-Israel lobby groups or individuals during their political career, Declassified can reveal.
That includes 130 Conservative MPs, 41 Labour MPs and three Liberal Democrats.
Three members of the DUP, two independents and Reform’s only MP complete the list.
The total value of the donations from pro-Israel groups, individuals, and Israeli state institutions amounts to over one million pounds.
Between them, the politicians made over 240 paid-for trips to Israel, at a cost of over half a million pounds. 
Some of those trips involved visits to the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and a small number were co-sponsored by groups which do not form part of the Israel lobby.
Remarkably, fifteen MPs have accepted funding to travel to Israel amid the Gaza genocide.”
 
 
Israel lobby funded a quarter of British MPs

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 16:24 utc | 85

Pigniyf ,Giyane and Love Donbass are long-con recruiters for Islam. Great posters on all but Islam ; where you can drive through their biases and cover-ups. Enough said.  Posted by: Petrus and Patroklos | Nov 24 2025 10:21 utc | 61
But you are a vile anti-European racist dear cat lady. Proclaim your hate, dont hide behind denials. 
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 15:45 utc | 81

 
This is absolute idiocy.
 
When will you make the difference between anti-Europeans, anti-West, anti-Whites or whatever your insecurities make you call it, and anti-imperialism or anti-colonialism ? This is basically the point of MoA’s existence.
 
The point being, if you have this urge to debate about Islam, why don’t you do it in the proper thread ?
 

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 24 2025 16:58 utc | 86

“Dumbass is racist towards Whites, he readily admits that-but in his mind it is not ‘racism’ as the Whites, currently, have positions of power so it not racism.
Posted by: canuk | Nov 24 2025 16:19 utc | 87
 
Our cat lady is not very bright then. If Whites truly held power currently the world would be a much different place. 
 
 
Who are the true minorities on this planet? I’d wager the number below is actually smaller and dropping fast.  
“However, one widely-used estimate is that about 15% of the world’s population is White (and therefore about 85% are “people of the global majority” meaning non-White) according to sources using that framework.”

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 17:00 utc | 87

“The point being, if you have this urge to debate about Islam, why don’t you do it in the proper thread ? 
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 24 2025 16:58 utc | 91
 
I didnt write comment 61, nor do I care for any Abrahamic faith. You’re barking up the wrong tree. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 17:03 utc | 88

” Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 24 2025 16:13 utc | 85
 
I love internet tough guys as they always are so much more cordial in person. I hope you’re on a VPN otherwise breadcrumbs abound. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 17:05 utc | 89

” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 15:58 utc | 84
 
What would China do in this situation?  I think we all know. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 17:07 utc | 90

I didnt write comment 61, nor do I care for any Abrahamic faith. You’re barking up the wrong tree. 
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 17:03 utc | 93

I replied to comment 61 and comment 81, which is yours.

Who are the true minorities on this planet? 
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 17:00 utc | 92

Being a minority doesnt’ mean shit.
A minority can be virtually or temporarily stronger than the majority, with better means of submission. How the White minority in South Africa subdued the Black majority ? How the French minority in Algeria subdued the indigenous majority ? How the wealthy minority subdues the poor majority ?

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 24 2025 17:54 utc | 91

The Cradle: Ep 133: ‘What Ceasefire?’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyeu5A-j7j8
 
“Israel escalates attacks on Gaza & Lebanon.”
 
 
Georges Ibrahim Abdallah Exposes Israel’s True Image (& vid)
 
https://x.com/CallaWalsh/status/1992968518703419770
 
Israel is weaker than many imagine.’
 
“Today, Israel represents fascist barbarism to the world. Today, it is in its natural place: fascism, which is an extension of fascism outside the Arab world and allied with Arab fascism. Our rifle is the resistance…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 18:04 utc | 92

” Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 24 2025 17:54 utc | 96
 
Being considered a “minority” is a major meal ticket in the West and one of the weapons used against the so called White “majority”. For instance, Indians are considered a minority which is absurd beyond believe. 
BTW, your anti-White hate is showing. Dont be as obvious as our dear cat lady. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 18:07 utc | 93

The Cradle: Ep 133: ‘What Ceasefire?’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyeu5A-j7j8 “Israel escalates attacks on Gaza & Lebanon.”Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 18:04 utc | 97
 
Russia and China abstained in the UN vote to prevent further bloodshed (their official reasoning)   😉 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 18:13 utc | 94

“What would China do in this situation?  I think we all know. ”
 
Painter (95).
 
Well we all know what Perfidious Albion would do – but what would China do? lets us all know.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2025 18:18 utc | 95

@85 Dr. Eleven

“The West has supplied every bullet and bomb used to flatten Gaza and used the American veto to shield Israel from any consequences across decades from both Team Blue and Team Red because both are Team Israel. Because the politicans are foreign agents, something the youth is waking up to.”

However:

Russia and China have not objected, have continued or increased trade and relations, and appear to have trouble with the word ‘genocide’ or the recognition of murder of civilians and similar crimes.

Especially given the major political and economic positions they hold.

…………

To compare US/West with Russia is a false dichotomy, as the misactions of one do not justify those of another simply for their being less severe. There it might be said your argument is the deflection, although most would probably agree that US/West deserves ‘a main attention’ .

That said there is something particularly disturbing about Russia and China not taking a stand, given the ‘political gift’ that would represent, even were we to ignore their signed commitments and obligations under international treaty, or simply what would be a humane position to take.

“It is better to be handsome than to be good, but it is better to be good than to be bad”

(Paraphrase of Oscar Wilde, iirc).

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 24 2025 18:33 utc | 96

Being considered a “minority” is a major meal ticket in the West and one of the weapons used against the so called White “majority”

Oh, I have no doubt you feel oppressed. Not only as White, but probably as heterosexual too, as well as male. Please, feel free to share with us what are your chains, which of your rights is violated.

BTW, your anti-White hate is showing

I’m very sorry my examples have broken your heart. I just used those that popped my mind first, educate me if you know some that suit your fragile ego better. 

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 24 2025 18:47 utc | 97

CFS: Craig Murray: ‘Is the Proscription of Palestine Action About To Fall?’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JLp6l8asOY
 
“Former UK ambassador and long-time civil rights campaigner explains the high stakes Judicial Review that could overturn the government’s proscription of Palestine Action. He outlines legal arguments now before the High Court…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 19:06 utc | 98

Craig Murray on Palestine Action (corrected from above)
https://www.youtube.com/@thecrispinflintoffshow/videos

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 24 2025 19:10 utc | 99

@ Posted by: The Painter | Nov 24 2025 15:52 utc | 83
 
 
While it may seem that VVP may not be overtly critical of the illegal apartheid entity his government is making some very critical comment. 

‘(@apocalypseos)
Maria Zakharova describes the suffering inflicted on Palestinians as indescribable, citing nearly 100,000 civilians “killed consciously, intentionally,” many after prolonged torture. She claims some forces took pleasure in their suffering, pointing to videos of dismembered Palestinians where people laughed and said it was normal, and to scenes of people watching a pregnant woman die in labor on TV screens, enjoying it. She even compares this behavior to the United Kingdom, calling it a “demarcation line” for humanity. Zakharova likens it to a genetic breakdown or a sickness like pedophilia that must be “treated medically.” She stresses that a normal, civilized human should feel pain for a wounded child automatically, without needing to know their nationality, religion, or ethnicity. If someone cannot, she says, “it is the sign of a beast” and “absolute perversion.” She frames this not as a legal matter but as a profound human and moral issue, emphasizing that dehumanization and deriving pleasure from others’ suffering represent a deep crisis of civilization. For Zakharova, the measure of humanity is immediate empathy, and the lack of it marks a fundamental moral collapse.’

Looks like the heat is being turned up. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 24 2025 19:39 utc | 100