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November 16, 2025
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Meanwhile, Israel and the West continue to bleed out.
The future will not be Trans and porn, sorry MAGA. 😂😂😂
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 18 2025 18:33 utc | 201
The Anti-Genocide Project: On the UN
https://x.com/justinpodur/status/1990799683455971527
- “UN soldiers were present when Lumumba was kidnapped and taken off to be tortured and killed.
- UN peacekeepers sexually abused Haitian children and brought cholera, until then unknown, to Haiti.
- When France wanted to intervene to support the Rwanda govt before the genocide, the UN general threatened to shoot the French planes down.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2025 18:49 utc | 202
canuk #172 and other foulings You’re always ready with something ugly to say as you rue the world there from your typewriter.
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 18 2025 18:49 utc | 203
The Painter | Nov 18 2025 17:29 utc | 192
*** -Israel ‘almost a Russian-speaking country’ – Putin –” Russian President Vladimir Putin has highlighted Israel’s large Russian-speaking population as one of the key factors in Moscow’s approach to the ongoing Middle East conflict ” ***
Putin’s attempt at excuse-making is absolute nonsense…..
The inhabitants of Broadmoor* speak English.
Is that supposed to somehow make their public presence welcome in Britain?
* in case foreign readers don’t know,
that’s a top-security prison for the criminally insane in England
Posted by: Cynic | Nov 18 2025 18:55 utc | 204
If there once was distiction between Judaism, keeping Chickens , and Zionism, killing chickens, – and I was brought up as a Sunday School Christian to refer to Moses AS Commandments as part of Chritian Faith – that illusion has now been demolished by the Khazar Foxes of Central Europe.
If the peaceful Jewish chickens who lend money to the Goyim for altruistic reasons did nothing for two long years to protect their Faith from the curses thrown against them by Eesa AS and Allah’s Qur’an? – they raised no mercenary force against the Zionist usurpers of their Faith nor supported their own critics in public like Finkelstein and Cook – then Jews are all Foxes in the chicken house.
There is no distiction between the smug Jews and the Smotrich Foxes. They will die together and God will sort them out.
As for Russian Ambassador to the UN.
He could have resigned rather than sign off on the Trump genocide. He didn’t , and the fact that he didn’t means he personally accepted the Trump Genocide Formula.
End of discussion. He had his chance.
No limitations in the Genocide Inquiries.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 19:04 utc | 205
Paul 175 and Jane 178. Completely agree. Russia and China have just told all their “partners” in Brics and unaligned that they can’t be trusted. What will happen when Izzyhell attacks Iran again and Murika bombs Venezuela??? Some hand wringing, carefully crafted phrases and .. abstentions. I don’t believe Russia has ever used the word “genocide.” And as stranger points out, the Headchopper in Chief is a Mossad asset. No wonder he is welcome in the White Brothel and Moscow.
Meanwhile, the plunder goes on bigger and better every day. Elliot Management, aka the vulture “capitalist” who has Meleikowsky by the short hairs just bought a large stake in Barrick Mining. One recalls that a few years ago Barrick was fined by the Chilean government for causing damage to the glaciers in the Chile side of the Andes. Now that the Argie Izzies have got their $20 billion from the Donald, Meleikowsky is pushing to eliminate environmental protections for glaciers on the Argie side. Funny thing. It seems like the press corps is touting Kast for Preznit of Chile. Lots of scare stories about crime in the streets, especially caused by those nasty Venezuelans. I believe it was Republicofscotland who put up a long post about Kast, Nazi, Pinochet lover, ultra right anti abortion, anti gay, anti environmental protections. Let’s face it. Anti everything but rich dictators. A very grim possibility.
How does this relate to the disgraceful capitulation of Russia and China in the UN? Every time a law is broken it encourages more law breaking. As Jane says, the UN doesn’t have the right to give away Palestine. And Putie claims to be a lawyer. Of course, O’Bomber claimed to be a “constitutional lawyer.” What’s the old joke about lawyers? What’s the difference between a catfish and a lawyer? One’s a scum sucking bottom feeder and the other is just a fish.
BTW, Barrick is a Canadian mining company.
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 18 2025 19:11 utc | 206
The UN is unfit for purpose.
“A former senior United Nations human rights official has denounced the UN Security Council’s adoption of a resolution backing a US plan for foreign forces in the besieged Gaza Strip, describing the vote as a “day of shame” for the world body.
In a social media post on Tuesday, Craig Mokhiber, former director of the New York office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), described the vote on the US resolution as a “day of shame” for the world body and called it a “colonial outrage.”
The former rights official further accused governments worldwide of being “on their knees before the US empire and its violent Israeli client.”
The US-drafted resolution was adopted on Monday with 13 votes in favor, with two abstentions from Russia and China in the 15-member council.
The plan is based on US President Donald Trump’s 20-point project for Gaza’s future, including only a singular line that envisions the possibility of a future Palestinian state.
It outlines a Trump-chaired “Board of Peace” to oversee affairs in the besieged Palestinian territory as a transitional authority. It also authorizes an “international stabilization force” that would ensure “demilitarization” of Gaza.
Mokhiber also criticized the “horrific” resolution as a violation of international law.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2025 19:15 utc | 207
Meanwhile…
China Still Winning Major Israeli Infrastructure Deals
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-china-still-winning-major-israeli-infrastructure-deals-1001526575
“Chinese companies continue to participate in the construction of huge projects critical to the Israeli economy.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2025 19:17 utc | 208
“They were not “offered” anything, they allowed the adoption of this criminal act called a Resolution based on weighing their own interests against the interests of the other power – Trumperica. That is how big powers, and smaller powers operate in this configuration of the international (dis)order. Russia and China, as their newest action proves, may be working on a new commerce and financial system, but not for a better world of equality and justice as they preach.”
JB (182).
On your first point – we don’t know what back door deals go on behind the scenes at the UN and further afield – as you say either could’ve vetoed it but they didn’t.
As for your second point I totally agree – Russia and China will always put self-interests ahead of doing the right and decent thing, they shouldn’t be put on a pedestal by anyone as a some sort of beacons of hope.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2025 19:22 utc | 209
After failing to veto Trumps monstrous plan for Gaza, the Chinese are trying to save face, too late – they and Russia by inaction have sealed the people of Gaza’s fate.
“China says any arrangements in the Gaza Strip must respect Palestinian governance and support the establishment of an independent Palestinian state to ensure lasting peace in West Asia.
During a meeting with Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul-Gheit in Beijing, Foreign Minister Wang Yi reaffirmed Beijing’s commitment to supporting the restoration of Palestinians’ legitimate rights.
China, he said, will “promote the advancement and implementation of the two-state solution.”
“Any post-conflict arrangement for Gaza should reflect the fundamental principle of ‘the Palestinians governing Palestine’ and must adhere unwaveringly to the two-state solution,” Wang added. “Only through this path can lasting peace and stability be achieved in the region.”
Wang also reiterated that China “is the Arab countries’ most reliable partner.”
The two diplomats met on the sidelines of the 11th China-Arab Civilization Dialogue in Beijing, which brings together 150 representatives from 22 Arab countries and the League of Arab States.
The Arab League Secretary-General also expressed support for the realization of an independent Palestinian state.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2025 19:31 utc | 210
Listening to the pathetic Poles whinge about a blown up train track, ( by Ukrainians) after reading this – I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
“An investigation conducted by several pro-Palestine organizations has uncovered that a Polish state-owned enterprise is providing the explosive material, Trinitrotoluene (TNT), for the Mk-80 bomb series, the primary munitions being deployed by Israel in its devastating genocidal war on Gaza.
The report, published on Tuesday by People’s Embargo for Palestine (PEP), Palestinian Youth Movement (PYM), Shadow World Investigations (SWI), and Movement Research Unit (MRU), explicitly names Nitro-Chem Chemical Plant.
The firm has been supplying the United States arms companies with TNT for use in military shells, bombs, and grenades, which are subsequently exported to Israel, especially since October 7, 2023, when the regime launched its genocidal assault on the Gaza Strip.
Nitro-Chem is a major chemical and arms industry corporation fully owned by the Polish Armaments Group (PAG), a holding established by the Polish government in 2013 to consolidate its state-owned defense sector companies.
The report findings revealed that 90% of TNT imported by the United States, which has no domestic production capability for the substance, originates from Poland.
Furthermore, the investigation asserts that Nitro-Chem has also been selling explosives, including TNT, directly to the Israeli regime.
Nadya Tannous, an organizer with the PYM, commented on the gravity of the findings: “This report decisively implicates Nitro-Chem and the Polish government as a critical link in facilitating the supply chain of genocide.”
Tannous stressed that while United Nations experts have determined Israel is committing genocidal acts in Gaza and have called upon all states to uphold their legal obligations under the Genocide Convention, the report provides evidence of Poland’s direct role “in the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.”
Since the beginning of the Gaza genocide, the Israeli armed forces have relied extensively on the Mk-80 bomb series, manufactured by General Dynamics, the world’s fifth-largest weapons producer.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2025 19:34 utc | 211
Now Russia is trying to save face after failing miserably to veto Trumps evil plan for Gaza – if they didn’t like Trumps plan then why didn’t the veto it.
“Russia has slammed a controversial US-backed plan to deploy a so-called International Stabilization Force (ISF) in Gaza, saying it “is reminiscent of colonial practices,” and risks sidelining the Palestinians.
The UN Security Council on Monday passed a resolution establishing the international force in Gaza.
The resolution, put forward by the Trump administration, received 13 votes in favour and none against, with the permanent members China and Russia abstaining.
Russia had circulated a rival proposal with stronger language supporting a Palestinian state, stressing that the West Bank and Gaza must be joined as a state under the Palestinian Authority.
Russia’s ambassador to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, said on Tuesday that Moscow abstained because the proposal lacked transparency, excluded Palestinian input, and granted Washington excessive control over Gaza under the guise of peacekeeping.
He warned that the international force could become “a fig leaf for unbridled experiments conducted by the US in Israel, in the occupied Palestinian territory.”
According to Nebenzia, the force “would appear to be able to act absolutely autonomously without any regard for the position or the opinion of Ramallah.”
Such an approach, he said, risks entrenching the long-feared separation of Gaza from the occupied West Bank.
Nebenzia also drew a direct comparison to the colonial era, saying the plan “is reminiscent of colonial practices… when the opinion of Palestinians themselves was not taken into account.”
Moscow has raised questions about the mandate of the ISF under Trump’s plan, warning that its undefined “peace enforcement tasks” could effectively turn it into a combat actor rather than a neutral peacekeeping presence”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2025 19:36 utc | 212
The sooner the German economy collapses the better.
“Germany says it will lift restrictions on all military exports to Israel, even though the occupying regime continues to kill Palestinians in daily attacks across Gaza in violation of a ceasefire agreement with Hamas.
Government spokesman Stefan Kornelius told German news agency DPA on Monday that the measure will take effect on November 24, returning the country to a case-by-case review of arms export applications to the Israeli regime.
The spokesman pointed out that the decision was taken in light of the Gaza ceasefire agreement, which has been in effect since October 10. He also said that efforts were being made to achieve lasting peace and improve humanitarian aid in Gaza.
The remarks come as three Palestinians lost their lives in an Israeli strike targeting southern Gaza on Sunday.
Israeli forces persist in violating the ceasefire agreement, launching assaults on the devastated region amid restricted aid and harsh winter conditions, which worsen the hardships faced by those affected.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2025 19:37 utc | 213
Item 7 from the UNSC Resolution is where the scheme will eventually fall apart, as both the ISF and the Palestinian Authority are clearly directed to finish the so-called Israel-Gaza War in Israel’s favour, with the definition of war-ending “stability” left to Israel. Israel is also allowed a “security perimeter presence” (i.e. control of borders) which will last essentially forever (“until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat”).
“The ISF shall work with Israel and Egypt, without prejudice to their existing agreements, along with the newly trained and vetted Palestinian police force, to help secure border areas; stabilize the security environment in Gaza by ensuring the process of demilitarizing the Gaza Strip, including the destruction and prevention of rebuilding of the military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, as well as the permanent decommissioning of weapons from non-state armed groups…As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw from the Gaza Strip based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the United States, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.”
The Russian representative said in his response that the process leading to the Resolution was deliberately rushed in accordance with an arbitrary American deadline, preventing proper debate or revision, and that the Americans engaged strong pressure on the UNSC , especially the non-permanent members. The representative from Algeria, in his remarks, inferred that there are (as yet) unpublished “annexes” to the Resolution – which appear to be a signature of Trump diplomacy.
The clearest sign of a “fix being in” will be the ongoing effort towards “normalization”. If such announcements start being made over the next weeks or months – or even over the next day or two, as the Saudis are in Washington right now – then the US plan for regional dominance, beginning with the Iraq War, will have been achieved (23 years later), and Israel’s genocidal conduct will be memory-holed. The Americans themselves have been co-belligerents for these past two years, and somehow they became the “mediators”. Despite the visible process of decline, the U.S. still wields considerable power, and this Resolution is the proof of it.
Posted by: jayc | Nov 18 2025 19:38 utc | 214
As for your second point I totally agree – Russia and China will always put self-interests ahead of doing the right and decent thing, they shouldn’t be put on a pedestal by anyone as a some sort of beacons of hope.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2025 19:22 utc | 209
Why would you expect them to do anything else? Anyway, Crooke said today, and Chas Freeman too, that they don’t see how the process can come to fruition. Hamas has definitively refused to disarm (quite right too). What are the Trump-commanded international stabilisation forces going to do? go in and disarm them by force? No international unit is going to use force, certanly the American supervisors from their base in Israel, are not going to risk casulaties.
So it doesn’t really matter how Russia and China voted. No point in provoking hostility when not useful. As Naopoleon said (I think), don’t prevent an enemy making a mistake.
Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 18 2025 19:43 utc | 215
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 18 2025 3:15 utc | 143
You continue to blow smoke on my pointing out that:
– Russia and China went along with the “Evil West”; They “abstained”. Russia’s clown in UN actually concluded “don’t say we didn’t warn you”. What a joker. You have a veto power in the UN SC you clowns. Why aren’t you using it?
– all the talk about multipolar world is to distract the plebes from what the global elite are doing, in concert. They have the VETO POWER. Why not use it?
In other news, X.com now has disabled auto translation of Hebrew tweets. Someone made a video of the Hebrew tweets and it starts with one saying “Death to the West”.
You know, I read somewhere to this day Jews go to Rome and get into hissy fits over Titus’s Monument.
Is this image upsetting to you (((Arch Bungle)))?
“Death to America. Death to the West”. Oy vey. (((Love Dunbass))), do you have you have anything to add to your Hebrew colleagues tweets? Maybe a “Christians are cucks” or something like that while posting as a (((Muslim)))?
https://nitter.net/GenXGirl1994/status/1990567236470530328#m
Posted by: public_service | Nov 18 2025 19:44 utc | 216
RepiblicofScotland 209
In the US Democracy Trump is only required to represent the interests of US Billionaires. Trump has zero legitimacy at the United Natiions and his Sharm al Sheik proposals should have been ignored.
The US having no democracy disqualifies its jurisdiction on anything anywhere.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 19:48 utc | 217
In 15-20 years from now, Israel will be allied with Russia and China. Against an Islamic dominated West. Change my mind.
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Nov 18 2025 20:04 utc | 218
” Putin’s attempt at excuse-making is absolute nonsense…..
Posted by: Cynic | Nov 18 2025 18:55 utc | 204 ”
Its more of an unintended admission that Russians participated in the geocide of the Palestinians. The logic is easy to deduce.
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 20:24 utc | 219
Muhammed Z
Be careful with your Zs. One hajji was accidentally saying ‘ Praise be to the accursed’ in the prayer.
The West might be run by Muslim tyrants in the same way that is now run by Zionist tyrants, but that changes nothing.
Plud ca change, plus c’est la fucking meme chose.
Arserahole delenda est. It will only be allied with Hellfire.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 20:31 utc | 220
@Formerly Miss Lacy 206
Paul 175 and Jane 178. Completely agree. Russia and China have just told all their “partners” in Brics and unaligned that they can’t be trusted. What will happen when Izzyhell attacks Iran again and Murika bombs Venezuela??? Some hand wringing, carefully crafted phrases and .. abstentions. I don’t believe Russia has ever used the word “genocide.” And as stranger points out, the Headchopper in Chief is a Mossad asset. No wonder he is welcome in the White Brothel and Moscow.
Your post goes on with more supporting details. I’m going to give a possible defense of Russia / China. I’m not happy with their decision, but I am not quite ready to completely ditch them.
The US and it’s allies, I mean proxies, more like slaves, are going on a full court press in each of the continents to plunder as much as possible for the US, and to do as much damage to Russia and China as possible (as well as other nations such as Venezuela, Argentina, Sudan, Palestine, Ukraine, Iran, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and many other nations). Russia and China don’t have the resources to fight all of these battles all at once.
Russia and China may win out in the long run as the US is definitely destroying itself from within. But there are lots of people that are dying in the short run and can’t wait that long. I agree with the spirit of your post, all of it. But I am reserving judgement on Russia and China as Russia is facing the brunt of the US/NATO/Ukrainian military, China is facing a full out diplomatic and economic war from the US, and Russia and China cannot be everywhere at once.
I will keep your post in my mind (as Dima from Military Channel would say). Thank you for posting it.
Posted by: Woke American | Nov 18 2025 20:52 utc | 221
Why was China so keen to setup, and participate, in the Elite’s Agenda 2030 climate , wealth distribution, scams ?
” Xinhua news agency provided highlights from the China Carbon Market Conference, held in Shanghai at the end of September:
By the end of August, the cumulative trading volume of China’s carbon emissions trading market was nearly 700 million tonnes, with a trading value of approximately 48 billion yuan (about 6.6 billion U.S. dollars).
Notably, the total transaction volume for the whole of 2024 was the highest since the market began trading in 2021, according to a report on the development of the national carbon market. ”
https://english.news.cn/20250925/85a4cb36c6f1462e85bbd2414be1f375/c.html
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 20:56 utc | 222
Geocide lol.
We dig up God’s minerals to make bombs to massacre God’s best Muslims and leave their country as a wasteland.
Then , the Chief Fracker puts forward proposals to exterminate or eradicate the survivors, called a Peace Plan. All the assembled Israel Normalisers sign the proposal to Frack the Islam out of West Asia.
Meanwhile Russia and China , satisfied with their mixed legacies of ancient scriptures, bits of Communism and bits of Capitalism , sign for the final destruction of the spiritual legacy of all the prophets who lived in Palestine.
I can feel the earth rumbling as Trump fracks the last juices of Faith out of Palestine. There’s going to be one hell of an explosion when the fracked Gaia fights back. Inshallah.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 21:14 utc | 223
” Russia and China don’t have the resources to fight all of these battles all at once. Posted by: Woke American | Nov 18 2025 20:52 utc | 221 ”
Your rationalization falls flat. China and Russia dont but the US does ?
What about China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Columbia, Cuba, South Africa and many others. Still short on resources ?
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 21:15 utc | 224
Yeah Russia is useless, but this from China? It would have cost them nothing. How disappointing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/AJ-1c1mHpW0?si=XNeGqqsuoSCZXOw6
Nima R. Alkhorshid
Host of Dialogue Works
Laith Marouf
FreePalestine. Video
Transcript:
“And let me start le wIth what has happened at the UN security council. You know the president of the United States Donald Trump he praised the UN security council for adopting his resolution to establish a so-called international force in Gaza.
What is that and is that practical?
Well, it is the final nail in the
coffin of the United Nations.
We’re back right now to the
League of Nations providing
mandates of Occupation and colonization.
We have kind of ended the new colonial era and returned to the colonial era directly…”
“…if all the Arabic and
Muslim states are supporting
this, why should China and
Russia uh vote against it?
Well, this is uh l think a a a
clear warning to our Latin
American brothers and sisters uh who are seeking you know liberation from Western.
I think Russia and China will sit and watch if Cuba is occupied again or…”
So these two shithole countries abstained on the vote. They send mixed signals but this is crystal clear.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 18 2025 21:22 utc | 225
The Painter 224
Russia and China and the US have no spiritual resources. They are like the Orange farmer I met in Sarghoda who sucked the cold nicotine out his Sheesha without lighting it up.
The US is just a wind- bag without any purpose or direction. Trump’s Peace Plan is just a fag-end filter of a war addict.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 21:29 utc | 226
Russia cut the deal with DJT, no veto of the absurd 20 Point Plan for Gaza in the UNSC, and an end to US aid for the Ukronazis……….ok deal done and sealed…….cynical but true……..
Posted by: tobias cole | Nov 18 2025 21:35 utc | 227
” ok deal done and sealed…….cynical but true……..
Posted by: tobias cole | Nov 18 2025 21:35 utc | 227 ”
Except the fact that the US is obviously incapable of adhering to any deals. Are you implying Putin got “tricked” by his partners again ?
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 21:45 utc | 228
” The US is just a wind- bag without any purpose or direction. Trump’s Peace Plan is just a fag-end filter of a war addict.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 21:29 utc | 226 ”
Thats fine, but who’s goals are being accomplished and just in time for 2030 and the “agenda” . Observe how, one by one, the world’s ongoing “problems” are being quickly “resolved” and wrapped up. Four years left and counting …………………….
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 21:49 utc | 229
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 21:49 utc | 229
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Still waiting for you to provide a link.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 18 2025 22:02 utc | 230
Learn what these maniacs believe in, the ones who control us. This whole history is interesting if you want to know the beginning.
Dr. Sean Hross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRhG01-R_zQ
Posted by: dobby | Nov 18 2025 22:17 utc | 231
” Still waiting for you to provide a link.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 18 2025 22:02 utc | 230 ”
You must be lonely. Every one can peruse your old comments and prove me right. Either way, no matter how many I found you would still try to weasel your way out of having said them. Its the LoveDonbass way.
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 22:40 utc | 232
Israel was created by these maniacs the ones who claim to be a semite. If only people could just understand the word semite things would be very different. This is the base, the historian in the above link I posted proves it from his many lectures.
Posted by: dobby | Nov 18 2025 22:55 utc | 233
Palestine is *NOT* An ‘Arab Issue’
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1990820577830171013
“What do I mean? It was an ‘Arab issue’ when Arabs chose to make it their cause. But if the Arab tyrannies that are loyal to Washington and Tel Aviv choose to sell out Palestine, it doesn’t remain their issue.
The Arab tyrannies don’t have any special role or custodianship over Palestine just because they are Arabs. They don’t have a right to sell it out. They don’t have authority or legitimacy to tell others to sell it out.
Palestine is not an ethnic Arab issue or a Muslim sectarian issue. It is an international issue. It is a matter of international law and self-determination and decolonization. Pro-Israel Arab tyrannies have no more or less responsibility for Palestine than Bolivia or Slovenia.
Russia and China, as permanent members of the Security Council have more responsibility than most, and should not be shirking those responsibilities just because Arab tyrannies with no authority to do so, have sold Palestine out. There is no excuse. Enough.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2025 22:55 utc | 234
In 15-20 years from now, Israel will be allied with Russia and China. Against an Islamic dominated West. Change my mind.
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Nov 18 2025 20:04 utc | 218
I certainly hope so.
To be allied with those two perpetual losers is a persistent curse, judging by current events.
Godspeed, O ‘israel’ – may you share the fate of Syria.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 18 2025 22:56 utc | 235
” What’s the old joke about lawyers? What’s the difference between a catfish and a lawyer? One’s a scum sucking bottom feeder and the other is just a fish.”
In Islam whoever supports something is held responsible for all of its consequences and whoever opposes something is held responsible for all.of its consequences.
Russia had an opportunity to oppose Israel but this wasn’t written by Allah for Russia. I don’t believe this is about legalities, deals or avoiding conflict.
Russia doesn’t possess the moral compass needed to defeat the Talmudic, paedophile , Khazar Jews, which is a highly intellectual war between good and evil.
But I repeat , Russia, China, Europe or North Korea have the engineering skills to arm tbose that do possess the clarity of conscience to defeat Nutter and Smutter and Bugger and Dumper. Que sera, sera.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 22:59 utc | 236
There are many questions around 10/7. Lets take another look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xwbR3eZ6o0
Posted by: dobby | Nov 18 2025 23:11 utc | 237
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ-ꜰᴀꜱᴛ ᴍᴏɴᴇʏ-ᴍᴀᴋɪɴɢ ᴏɴʟɪɴᴇ ᴊᴏʙ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ꜰʟᴏᴏᴅꜱ ʏᴏᴜʀ ʙᴀɴᴋ ᴀᴄᴄᴏᴜɴᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴄᴀꜱʜ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏ ᴡᴇᴇᴋ. ʙʏ ᴡᴏʀᴋɪɴɢ ᴊᴜꜱᴛ 2 ʜᴏᴜʀꜱ ᴀ ᴅᴀʏ ᴀꜰᴛᴇʀ ᴄᴏʟʟᴇɢᴇ, ɪ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ $17,529 ʟᴀꜱᴛ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ. ɪ ʜᴀᴅ ᴢᴇʀᴏ ᴇxᴘᴇʀɪᴇɴᴄᴇ ᴡʜᴇɴ ɪ ꜱᴛᴀʀᴛᴇᴅ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪɴ ᴍʏ ꜰɪʀꜱᴛ ᴍᴏɴᴛʜ, ɪ ᴇᴀꜱɪʟʏ ᴇᴀʀɴᴇᴅ $11,854. ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴊᴏʙ ɪꜱ ɪɴᴄʀᴇᴅɪʙʟʏ ᴇᴀꜱʏ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴏ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴇɢᴜʟᴀʀ ɪɴᴄᴏᴍᴇ ɪꜱ ꜰᴀɴᴛᴀꜱᴛɪᴄ. ᴡᴀɴᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴊᴏɪɴ ʀɪɢʜᴛ ɴᴏᴡ? ᴊᴜꜱᴛ ᴠɪꜱɪᴛ ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴡᴇʙᴘᴀɢᴇ ꜰᴏʀ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ɪɴꜰᴏ…. https://iplogger.cn/2cFu25
Posted by: Chasity Crooks | Nov 18 2025 23:21 utc | 238
Muhammed Z. | Nov 18 2025 20:04 utc | 218
*** In 15-20 years from now, Israel will be allied with Russia and China. Against an Islamic dominated West. ***
Then — assuming the Talmuddic Kabbalists of Khazaria were still operating via zombified proxies — it would be a fake “Islamic” dominated West, since fake Islam will be as fake as the totally fake alleged “Christianity” of the Zionists in the USA.
So why … other than, perhaps, for typically sadistic amusement … would the Zionists bother to oppose their own Zionist-front proxies when they effectively ruled everything, everywhere?
*** Change my mind.***
Where is it?
Posted by: Cynic | Nov 18 2025 23:27 utc | 239
Germany To Resume Arms Exports To Israel After Ceasefire
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clygdj9w23po
“Germany has announced it will restart exporting weapons to Israel following a ceasefire in Gaza more than a month ago…Germany, the second largest supplier of arms to Israel behind the US – stopped shipments after Israel approved a ground offensive to take over Gaza City…”
New Report Reveals Canadian Weapons Are Still Flowing To Israel
https://armsembargonow.ca/nomoreloopholes/
“We’ve just exposed a massive pipeline of military aircraft parts and explosives flowing from Canada to Israel via the US...Our damning new report uncovers ongoing shipments containing vital components of both Israel’s fighter jets and the bombs they are still dropping on Gaza…”
Accomplices. They’re all in on it. It’s up to us to stop them. By any means necessary. Free Palestine!
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2025 23:31 utc | 240
As I predicted, the genocide of the Palestinians will continue far beyond the borders of Palestine – if we (humankind) let it:
🇱🇧 🇮🇱 Mass casualty event in south Lebanon after Israel attacks the Palestinian refugee camp in Ain al-Helweh. More than 50 people were in the area that was attacked by the terrorist Israelis.
The place targeted by the occupation in Ain al-Hilweh camp is a parking lot and a playground crowded with civilians from the camp, not a building or complex as claimed by the occupation. — Local Lebanese sources.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 18 2025 23:45 utc | 241
https://x.com/malonebarry/status/1990457526576456181
Barry Malone @malonebarry
A) It’s not a war.
B) It’s not over.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/16/middleeast/netanyahu-israel-accountability-gaza-intl
The war in Gaza is over, but the fight in Israel for accountability has barely begun
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https://x.com/ajamubaraka/status/1990821094354210918
Ajamu Baraka @ajamubaraka
Exactly. No one, no movement, no state is beyond criticism, especially when that criticism exposes unprincipled collaboration with Western imperialism and the abandonment of a legitimate anti-colonial struggle.
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1990805949460689157
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
As Chairman Mao said, “To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.”
Same applies to our favorite “great powers.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 19 2025 0:13 utc | 242
b. I got targeted with a bot after my post. We’re over the target.
Posted by: dobby | Nov 19 2025 0:22 utc | 243
MoA seems to have been invaded by small minded short view thinkers with all this condemnation of China and Russia from abstaining on the UN resolution.
Were there any Arab states that voted against the resolution?
Why is that?
Why should China/Russia go against the wishes of the Arab states?
Those are the questions to answer before then looking at the ME as part of the larger civilization war going on, eh?
I agree with others that posit that this UN resolution will never be implemented to any degree.
Lots of moving parts. Focus on the big picture view of our conflict between finance as a public utility (China) and finance as a jackboot control feature of Western global private finance, private property and ongoing inheritance……all wars are banker’s wars.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 19 2025 0:43 utc | 244
see the photo at the first link
https://x.com/JakeWSimons/status/1990331430048583846
Jake Wallis Simons @JakeWSimons
These people managed to stop a former Israeli leader from addressing the formerly distinguished Oxford Union.
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https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1990466960308777178
Richard Medhurst @richimedhurst
Israel has stolen 30% of Syria’s water supply since Jolani took over. Instead of getting it back, he rewards them with normalization— to say nothing of the gas & oil.
It’s difficult to think of higher forms of treason than gifting away land and resources to a foreign occupation
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https://x.com/CaNdy_FI0ss/status/1990548243235942815
CandyFloss @CaNdy_FI0ss
By supporting the U.S. resolution, Arab and Islamic states have abandoned Gaza and trampled Palestinian rights. Today is a betrayal of Gaza’s sacrifices and years of bloodshed.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 19 2025 0:51 utc | 245
Syriana Analysis: ‘The Dark Geopolitical Game’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0UTBCVfZWg
“Uyghur militants, Syria & China.”
Recommended.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 19 2025 2:31 utc | 246
Robert Inlakesh, writing for the Palestine Chronicle, reports the Americans made specific warning to Russia and China over the use of a veto at UNSC:
“(The resolution) passed due in large part to threats from the United States against both Russia and China, that if they vetoed it, the ceasefire would end and the genocide would resume.”
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/a-mandate-for-force-what-the-unscs-gaza-resolution-means-in-practice/
Posted by: jayc | Nov 19 2025 2:42 utc | 247
@The Painter 224
Your rationalization falls flat. China and Russia dont but the US does ?What about China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Columbia, Cuba, South Africa and many others. Still short on resources ?
I agree with your main thesis, but only up to a point. The US is trying to fight all over the place, and destroying itself internally. There was a time when the US was considered the “Shining City on the Hill”, a “Beacon of Democracy”. Now we are a declining empire that is associated with killing and raping Palestinians along with Israel just for the fun of it. A nation that brings misery and poverty all around the globe, like we did in Iraq and Libya a generation ago. And a nation that is tearing itself apart internally.
I think that Russia and China made a huge blunder by abstaining rather than vetoing. But I do not think it is totally clear cut. Central Asia, especially Kazakhstan and Georgia for Russia, is far more vital to Russian interests. China has Japan and South Korea to deal with, and there are LOTS of US military bases in those two nations, along with new bases in Philippines.
You provided the reasoning for Russia and China abstaining: No one wants to suffer the fate that the US is inflicting upon itself. I live in the US. My children and grandchildren will pay … are already paying … huge prices for US misadventures throughout the world. And the pain is just beginning.
Posted by: Woke American | Nov 19 2025 2:49 utc | 248
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 18 2025 22:59 utc | 236
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The Russian leadership are Christians, so their moral compasses are “flexible”. That’s putting aside that the Russians desperately want to be considered European.
The Chinese are pragmatic and materialistic. They don’t do moral crusades. They intend to achieve their goals by leading economically.
As you said, Allah ta’ala hasn’t written that role for them.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 19 2025 3:00 utc | 249
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 18 2025 22:40 utc | 232
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To be clear, you’ve made claims that you cannot or will not substantiate.
Why should anyone take your comments seriously if you don’t support your statements?
Next time you try to be clever and play gotcha games, bring receipts.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 19 2025 3:04 utc | 250
Francesca Albanese to Chris Hedges after the UN mandate in favor of DJT’s 21-Point Peace Plan: “Since the end of the Cold War there has been an increasing globalization of the system where the common denominator is force. This is a long term trajectory that did not begin on October 7th 2023. It’s very sad, but this is the reality.”
The interview is @ consortiumnews.com, both as video & transcript.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 19 2025 3:10 utc | 251
https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1990628566942245190
Craig Mokhiber @CraigMokhiber
Think of it: The US, co-perpetrator of the ongoing genocide against the Palestinian people, and principal sponsor of the Israeli regime, has just been granted control of the survivors in Gaza by the United Nations Security Council, all 14 of the other members stepping over international law to obsequiously bow down to the US-Israel axis.
The Council has shown itself to be a threat to international peace and security, and to the rule of international law- and not for the first time. In a sane world, the global majority of states would band together to oppose this. Instead, they are on their knees, jostling for the emperor’s gaze.
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https://x.com/caitoz/status/1990920761062928670
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
She complains she wants “to give data and information” to younger Jews who are turning against Israel but they only see the “wall of carnage” in Gaza and it makes her “sound obscene”. This is like murdering a family and telling the cops “But you’re not listening to my arguments!”
https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1990634043218534790
Chris Menahan 🇺🇸 @infolibnews
Fmr Obama speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz laments to Jewish Federation that people are finding content from “Al Jazeera and Nick Fuentes” on social media and seeing videos of “the carnage in Gaza.”
Holocaust education has backfired in part as people see Palestinians as Jews’ victims, she adds.
“They think the lesson of the Holocaust is…you fight the big powerful people hurting the weak people.”
(The lesson they were supposed to get is that it gives Israel the right to commit genocide in perpetuity.)
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 19 2025 3:15 utc | 252
Posted by: jayc | Nov 19 2025 2:42 utc |
Thank you. Of all the explanations as to Russia and China’s abstentions, this one makes the most sense and is the only one that casts them in a half decent light.
I also agree with the article in its totality.
Posted by: ArtinOz | Nov 19 2025 3:59 utc | 253
Artinoz 253
If anybody fears a human being more than they fear Allah, they will fail miserably. Russia and China should publish the threats they received from Dump and expose him for lump of Jew Lard he really is. Nothing pisses off liars more than being discovered.
Alistair Crooke’s argument that the 21 point tripe is unworkable and unknown and won’t work explains the reasoning process behind Abstention. You wait for a better opportunity to steer events to a workable solution.
Trump reigns by incompetence. Shadwell never deviates into sense. Trump setting up private deals with Sauds for US weaponry, nuclear weaponry , must be an impeachable offence.
So the Maskirova is to let the fat-head greedy Potus cook his own goose .
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 19 2025 5:33 utc | 254
MoA seems to have been invaded by small minded short view thinkers with all this condemnation of China and Russia from abstaining on the UN resolution.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 19 2025 0:43 utc | 244
It was not this vote that turned me against Russia and China but a long series of events beginning with the foundation of Israel.
The Russians were as instrumental in the creation of israel as Balfour was.
It was the Soviet communist party which engineered the creation of a Zionist Communist force instrumental to the creation of israel.
It was the Russians, or more specifically, their Zionist overlords who appeared at every key point to ensure the survival of the occupation of Palestine by Jewish White supremacists.
It was the Russians and their Slavic Ukrainian brethren who contributed the most effective part of the colonizing settler force to Palestine.
That pattern has repeated consistently across the decades.
As for China, the construction company responsible for building the concentration camp is as complicit as the concentration camp jailer himself …
Once again, the prophecy and predictions of the Protocols of the learned elders of Zion have proven true.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 5:34 utc | 255
https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1990789514864787570
Craig Mokhiber @CraigMokhiber
The UN Security Council, if unconstrained by international law, is an instrument of repression and injustice. This is what we witnessed yesterday as the Council ignored the findings of the ICJ and turned the people of Gaza over to the co-perpetrators of the genocide.
The veto has repeatedly been used in the Council to violate Palestinian rights. Yesterday, when it could have been used to protect Palestinian rights, it was nowhere to be found. The Security Council has lost all legitimacy.
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https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1990597291875733867
Jonathan Cook @Jonathan_K_Cook
Another ordinary day in Israel’s apartheid legal system:
A Tel Aviv court rules that a 14-year-old Palestinian autistic boy who was sexually assaulted by prison guards and inmates must be returned to the same prison for a week while it decides what to do with him.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-11-17/ty-article/.premium/israeli-court-extends-detention-of-autistic-jaffa-boy-who-was-sexually-assaulted-in-prison/0000019a-9389-d8b5-abbf-b7f982750000
Israeli Court Extends Detention of Autistic Jaffa Boy Who Was Sexually Assaulted in Prison
Mother of defendant, a 14-year-old who is charged with security offenses, says that her son is ‘being presented as a terrorist, but he is a sick and helpless child’
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https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/-israel–appeals-to-cancel-icc-arrest-warrants-for-netanyahu
‘Israel’ appeals to cancel ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant
“Israel” requests the ICC to cancel arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant and seeks the disqualification of Prosecutor Karim Khan, citing political motives.
……Last month, the International Criminal Court (ICC) rejected an appeal by the Israeli occupation seeking to overturn arrest warrants issued for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Security Minister Yoav Gallant, both accused of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza Strip.
In a statement, the ICC ruled that the Israeli regime’s attempt to rescind the warrants was “not an appealable issue,” reaffirming its earlier finding that the two officials bear criminal responsibility for atrocities committed during the ongoing war on Gaza……
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 19 2025 6:04 utc | 257
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 5:34 utc | 255
In your post you write Russian. Do you mean Soviet?
I second Giyane at 256, and thank you!
Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 19 2025 6:07 utc | 258
@ Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 5:34 utc | 255 with the response to my comment about the UN resolution and China/Russia…..thanks for sharing
Given my cultural anthropology education and my myopic optimism about our species I see the China/Russia abstention from the UN resolution as well as their approach to the conflicts in our world different than you.
Today I watched the Nima/Wilkerson video and Col Wilkerson shares my view about the China/Russia abstentions. He says that the resolution has no chance of successful implementation and it is better for the world to see empire fail in this regard.
I share much of your frustration with this sausage remake of our form of social organization but continue to believe that this is the process we are going through. Somebody smarter than me once told me that our global nations are all interrelated now and while the leadership of some nations are controlled by empire, the ones that are not are controlled by leadership that is specifically selected as foils against empire rather than just a good leader for the country. I think you can see Xi and Putin in that perspective…they are the leaders for this time and place and so far nukes haven’t blown up the social organization sausage making process.
Are China and Russia perfect nations for our species? No, but they are good enough to help move society beyond barbarism which I see as their goal.
I didn’t make any kids to have skin in our species game but do want humanity to evolve beyond patriarchal barbarism and think it is possible…….might even start to happen in what is left of my life if I am lucky.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 19 2025 6:11 utc | 259
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 19 2025 6:11 utc | 259
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This comment was very wise and measured.
It’s all processes.
I maintain that Israel and the colonial West are done. They may persist for another decade, but after 2040, they will be a historical memory. That story will be told by Burkinabe and Bolivarian historians, not European and American academics.
History has always been a dubious business; it usually reflects the powers of the time and curates the reputations of the elite classes.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 19 2025 6:29 utc | 260
You didn’t get the memo. Literally, no one gives a fuck about “Palestine”. This is as important a topic as the LGBTQ or Black Lives Matter bullshit. Something for white liberals to feel better about their miserable lives. Not one Arab or Muslim country is willing to lift a finger. The “Palestinians” overplayed their hand. There will never, ever be such thing as a “Palestine” state. No one wants it, especially the “Palestinians”. Much each to grift money without a state.
Accomplices. They’re all in on it. It’s up to us to stop them. By any means necessary. Free Palestine!
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2025 23:31 utc | 240
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Nov 19 2025 6:58 utc | 261
Do these drive-by commenters have a clue how stupid/ignorant their contributions look?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 19 2025 7:01 utc | 262
see the 45-second video at the first link
see the 2:12 video at the second/third link
https://x.com/BeckettUnite/status/1990695712766505265
Howard Beckett @BeckettUnite
Ben-Gvir, 🇮🇱 minister, calling on Netanyahu to assassinate Palestinian 🇵🇸 officials if the UN recognise Palestine 🇵🇸
Israel 🇮🇱 is a racist, terror state
Sanctions now
Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN now.
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https://x.com/_ZachFoster/status/1990892300927373676
Zachary Foster @_ZachFoster
To paraphrase, the problem is the algorithm showing images of Israel killing & killing & killing, not Israel killing & killing & killing. A causal defense of genocide.
https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1990634043218534790
Chris Menahan 🇺🇸 @infolibnews
Fmr Obama speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz laments to Jewish Federation that people are finding content from “Al Jazeera and Nick Fuentes” on social media and seeing videos of “the carnage in Gaza.”
Holocaust education has backfired in part as people see Palestinians as Jews’ victims, she adds.
“They think the lesson of the Holocaust is…you fight the big powerful people hurting the weak people.”
(The lesson they were supposed to get is that it gives Israel the right to commit genocide in perpetuity.)
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https://x.com/liamcunningham1/status/1990901140456673558
liam cunningham @liamcunningham1
UN states 9 attempts to deliver tents to Gaza have been rejected by the Israeli genocidal regime.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 19 2025 7:02 utc | 263
@ michaelj72 | Nov 19 2025 7:02 utc | 263 with the ongoing status update on Gaza…thanks again for your continued contributions.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 19 2025 7:06 utc | 264
Russia and China, as permanent members of the Security Council have more responsibility than most, and should not be shirking those responsibilities just because Arab tyrannies with no authority to do so, have sold Palestine out. There is no excuse. Enough.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2025 22:55 utc | 234
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Right.
And not to forget, Palestine, the state, is a member of the UN.
So, will the UN next be “voting” that, say, South Korea and Uncle Sam can establish a Board of Peace—super-Orwellian, that!!!—controlled by The Donald?
The UN has reached the ultimate absurdity.
Now would be the time for The Donald to withdraw all US support of the UN!!!
And kick it out of the US of A.
At this point I believe that has become a reasonable demand
to be made by any reasonable American.
Inetrnational center and symbol of shame.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 7:48 utc | 265
see the 2:12 video at the first link. A video of former Obama speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz lamenting to the Jewish Federation that people are finding content from “Al Jazeera and Nick Fuentes” on social media, and seeing videos of “the carnage in Gaza.”
https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1990896744670867742
Richard Medhurst @richimedhurst
The most insane part of this clip is when she claims that Holocaust education is problematic because today it is failing to make young Jews blindly love Israel, and instead, they are sympathizing with victims of racism, be they Black or Palestinian. What a wretched witch.
https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1990899604536033630
Other insane parts include:
– Media being too “global” i.e. too much free speech and diversity of opinion. (Can’t have that!).
– Comparing Al Jazeera staff in Gaza, who are proper media workers — many of them killed on the job — to Nick Fuentes
– People seeing the carnage in Gaza i.e. seeing Israel’s true colors is ruining all their Zionist hasbara
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https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/11/19/zionists-are-freaking-out-about-losing-control-of-the-narrative/
Zionists Are Freaking Out About Losing Control Of The Narrative
Former Obama speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz made some very revealing remarks during an appearance at the Jewish Federations of North America General Assembly on Sunday, expressing frustration with the way younger Jews are dismissing pro-Israel arguments because of the carnage they’ve seen in Gaza……..
….Hurwitz went on to say that Holocaust education has begun backfiring, because it has been giving young people the wrong impression that genocide is always bad…..
It’s just so fascinating to see a former White House speechwriter making so many of the points that anti-Zionists have been making for years, but taking the exact opposite meaning from them:
– The mainstream legacy media has always hidden anti-Israel views from the public — and that was a good thing.
– Social media has now given Palestinians the ability to expose the truth about Israel’s abuses — and that’s a bad thing.
– People aren’t falling for the Zionist spin and narrative-diddling anymore because they’ve seen the carnage in Gaza with their own eyes — and that’s a problem.
– People who learned from Holocaust education that genocide is wrong have been applying those same lessons to the genocide in Gaza — and this means they’re “confused”.
Hurwitz isn’t denying Israel’s abuses or framing its genocidal atrocities as the problem, she’s just coming right out and saying that people obtaining information and moral clarity about those abuses is the problem. The atrocities aren’t wrong, what’s wrong is people seeing those atrocities and calling them what they are…..
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 19 2025 8:08 utc | 266
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 5:34 utc | 255
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Yes, weren’t the soviets the first to recognize the State of Israel?
Why?
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 8:24 utc | 267
weren’t the soviets the first to recognize the State of Israel?
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 8:24 utc | 267
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Israel is beyond the Pale.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 19 2025 8:50 utc | 268
Has anyone considered that the whole Venezuela thing might just be a way for Trump to keep the US navy out of the middle east so Netanyahu cant drag them into a war with Iran?
Posted by: Vortex | Nov 19 2025 9:15 utc | 269
The real tragedy of UNSC 2308 is the Likud has chosen the all-or-nothing strategy. Instead of accepting the most generous offer of the Palestinians for a lasting and secure peace based on 181 and 194, the Likud seems hell bent on continuing the failed facts-on-the-ground strategy of the last 50 years. Facts-on-the-ground has provided neither peace nor security for Israelis.
The Likud Gov’t is Israelis own worst enemy. All-or-nothing is most likely going to result in Nothing. Increasingly one hears the Algerian Outcome as a solution.
Posted by: exile | Nov 19 2025 9:52 utc | 270
Has anyone considered that the whole Venezuela thing might just be a way for Trump to keep the US navy out of the middle east so Netanyahu cant drag them into a war with Iran?
Posted by: Vortex | Nov 19 2025 9:15 utc | 269
That is a possibility worth considering. But why has it been necessary to kill those Venezuelan etc fisherman?
I have not formed a view about Russia and China abstaining in the UNSC. I’m waiting to see how events play out.
Posted by: tucenz | Nov 19 2025 10:11 utc | 271
Robert Inlakes:about the Resolution:
In order to understand what has just occurred, it requires a breakdown of the resolution itself and the broader context surrounding the ceasefire deal. When these elements are combined, it becomes clear that this resolution is perhaps one of the most shameful to have passed in the history of the United Nations, casting shame on it and undermining the very basis on which it was formed to begin with.
When the suffering in Gaza finally ends, whether that is because Israel obliterates all of its regional opposition and exterminates countless other civilians in its way, or Israel is militarily shattered, the UN should be disbanded as was the League of Nations. It is a failed project just as that which preceded it. Something new must take over from it.
Full:
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/a-mandate-for-force-what-the-unscs-gaza-resolution-means-in-practice/
Posted by: JB | Nov 19 2025 10:47 utc | 272
It is all on the surface, our posts and contributions.
Think deeper, as our world is being reshaped and not for the better, we are on track to being exterminated.
Get to the Industry 4 ( started with the psyop of COVID, and proceeded with eugenical shots all over the world). So called Russia totally cooperated. Read about their fačlse vaccine in cooperation with Phizer, Astra Zeneca. Jew Graf etc, Gamaleyya…
Read about tagging people and childs in Russia. Unlimited with Whitney webb..
Deindusrialization, eugenics etc…All cooperated. together, Russia developing MIC, but everydaylife not so good, Helmer does post but is afraid of being exiled again ( after he posted about oligarchs, he was kicked out for 10 years and forbidden to come for the funeral of his beloved russian wife). Deripaska was protected by Lavrov.
All the govts are cooperating in this shitplot, except Yemen. Some nongovernmental actors of resistance are still there. Hesbollah is dormant, terribly damaged ( 4000 wounded, no hands, no eyes, faces burned).. Hamas is there.
Agenda 2030, research it, the synonime is Industry 4.
One of 17 goals for the 2030 is : there will be no hunger.
Of course ther will no be hungry people. All the Palestinians, Sudanese, Africans who were hungry as the aid was blocked and denied by all the legalese bastards playing with us, they will simply be dead.
SFSN
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 12:15 utc | 273
Yes, weren’t the soviets the first to recognize the State of Israel?
Why?
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 8:24 utc | 267
Watch laith marouf on Nimas latest YouTube video. He goes into the dirty details of the Communist Jewish conspiracy to literally colonize Palestine.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 12:34 utc | 274
Israel is beyond the Pale.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 19 2025 8:50 utc | 268
Lol. Brilliant.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 12:35 utc | 275
In your post you write Russian. Do you mean Soviet?
I second Giyane at 256, and thank you!
Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 19 2025 6:07 utc | 258
Unfortunately, I have to face the fact that it was the Russians.
Russian Jews, to be specific.
Russians regardless.
Were there a few Ukrainians and Georgians in the mix? An Azeri or two? The odd Kazakh?
Sure. It matters not a shit.
It was the Russians. The successor nation of the USSR.
The bunch with all the nukes.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 12:39 utc | 276
for Trump to keep the US navy out of the middle east so Netanyahu cant drag them into a war with Iran?
Posted by: Vortex | Nov 19 2025 9:15 utc | 269
That is a possibility worth considering. But why has it been necessary to kill those Venezuelan etc fisherman?
I have not formed a view about Russia and China abstaining in the UNSC. I’m waiting to see how events play out.
Posted by: tucenz | Nov 19 2025 10:11 utc | 271
Do either of you think that entire fleet won’t turn on a dime and head full speed to the Mediterranean if a single missile came flying from Iran to Tel Aviv?
It will.
Trump can’t keep his own shoelaces tied let alone keep a navy in one place.
His Zionist overlords decide where the next port is.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 12:42 utc | 277
Fun fact. The USSR sent arms to the new Israeli state in 1948 via Czech. The US had an arms embargo in place until the 70’s. Only when Israel proved its usefulness during the 1967 war, did the US begin to support and cultivate as a proxy.
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Nov 19 2025 13:54 utc | 278
“All the govts are cooperating in this shitplot, except Yemen”
Posted by: strange | Nov 19 2025 12:15 utc | 273
No, you are delusional.
The Axis powers are waiting out the West whom are degenerating day by day morally, economically and politically.
The Axis leaders, unlike yourself, think in strategic terms, not in emotional, paranoid coin which you follow.
Posted by: canuk | Nov 19 2025 14:25 utc | 279
The Axis powers are waiting out the West whom are degenerating day by day morally, economically and politically. The Axis leaders, unlike yourself, think in strategic terms, not in emotional, paranoid coin which you follow.
Posted by: canuk | Nov 19 2025 14:25 utc | 279
Little gollum, it turns out that their strategic planning is identical, divide the world into interest zones, divide resources , that’s actually what ‘polycentric brave new world’ comes to. Both sides licking up to genocidal entity, there is no justification, never can be.
I see Russia very enthusiastic about working with the slimes from USA on this division, oligarchy with oligarchy. And not for you, little gollum plebeian. Stop polluting the thread with your misinformed and mean little turd postings.
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 15:22 utc | 280
Arch Bungle 277 –
Thank you for your response and your commitment and contributions here.
Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 19 2025 16:31 utc | 281
PART 1
History began on October 7 for the Palestinian-American “journalist” Ali Abunimah. The only journalism that Ali practices is yellow journalism where sensationalism matters but facts don’t. There is nary a hint of Ali doing any investigative journalism. Ali Abunimah is an enemy of Palestinian liberation.
Just as history did not start on October 7, neither did November 17 mark a drastic change in Russia’s and China’s support for Palestine. A single UN vote does not undo all the support Russia and China has given for the Palestinians before November 17.
Let’s actually read up on what happened on the days leading up to the vote on UN Security Council Resolution 2803.
Russia had an alternative draft resolution with stronger language on Palestinian statehood, and while Russia’s proposal did not attract support, it did push America to include language mentioning statehood in its proposal. The Associated Press reported on November 17, 2025:
After nearly two weeks of negotiations on the U.S. resolution, Russia suddenly circulated a rival proposal late Thursday that would strip out reference to a transitional authority meant to be headed by President Donald Trump and ask the United Nations chief to provide options on an international force to provide security in Gaza.
Several council diplomats said they are hopeful Russia and China will abstain because of their ties to eight Muslim-majority countries that urged “swift adoption” of the U.S. resolution. But Moscow’s vote especially remains a surprise, according to the diplomats, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
A joint U.S. statement with Qatar, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Jordan and Turkey – all key parties in pushing for a ceasefire and ensuring it holds – was released Friday after the U.S. faced objections about the weak language in a previous draft on Palestinian self-determination.
The U.S. revised it to say that after the Palestinian Authority – which now governs parts of the West Bank – makes reforms and redevelopment to the devastated Gaza Strip advances, “the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood.”
Russia’s rival draft resolution includes stronger language supporting Palestinian statehood alongside Israel and stressing that the West Bank and Gaza must be joined as a state under the Palestinian Authority.
Palestinian resistance factions emphasized the need to garner Algeria’s support in their plans to oppose the UN resolution. The Palestinian Information Center reported on November 17, 2025:
The draft resolution, expected to be put to a vote at the UN Security Council, has triggered sharp criticism from Islamic Jihad Deputy Secretary-General Mohammad al-Hindi and from a coalition of Palestinian resistance factions. … Separately, Palestinian resistance factions issued a joint statement calling on regional and international actors, particularly Algeria, which is a current Security Council member and which they praised for its historic support, to oppose the US plan.
This is confirmed by The New Arab reporting on November 17, 2025:
In a statement circulated by Palestinian faction offices in Algeria on Sunday, the groups urged Algiers to take a firm stance against “the ongoing efforts inside UN corridors to pass the US draft resolution related to deploying international forces in the Gaza Strip”.
The factions appealed directly to Algeria, saying they had issued “a sincere and fraternal appeal to the People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria, its government and people, to continue adhering to its principled positions supporting Palestine, and its steadfast rejection of any projects targeting Gaza’s identity and our people’s right to self-determination”.
They said Algeria’s historic position “represents the true hope for our people in confronting this project that seeks to impose a new occupation under an international cover”, describing Algeria as “the genuine expression of the free popular Arab stance”.
The factions also called on Arab and Islamic states “to stand against this resolution, reject any form of trusteeship or foreign intervention, and defend Gaza’s right to freedom, dignity and independence”.
And it’s further confirmed by The Cradle reporting on November 17, 2025:
The Palestinian resistance factions issued a joint statement on Sunday rejecting the draft and calling on Algeria to stand against it at the UN.
Hamas also singled out Algeria. On November 16, 2025, Al Mayadeen reported:
The Palestinian people are closely following developments over a US draft resolution on international forces in Gaza, with Palestinian leaders expressing hope that Algeria will take a firm stance against the measure, which they say undermines Palestinian sacrifices and aspirations.
A senior Hamas official told Al Mayadeen on Sunday that the Palestinian people are hoping for an “honorable stance” from Algeria in rejecting the US draft resolution regarding international forces.
The official added that Hamas has confidence that Algeria will oppose the resolution, which they said inflicts injustice on the sacrifices and aspirations of the Palestinian people, describing the anticipated Algerian position as a source of hope for Palestinians in preventing any new international trusteeship over Gaza.
Clearly, Palestinian factions active in Gaza are pinning their hopes on Algeria. In essence, mandate is given to Algeria to act as the unofficial representative of Gazan factions on the Security council, as opposed to the Palestinian Authority.
Death to America
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Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 19 2025 16:46 utc | 282
PART 2
Algeria is known as the “country of a million martyrs”. There is little attention paid to the Algeria factor in English spaces dominated by fake “leftists” from the West, even though the enemy pays close attention to it.
Here is an article from the nonprofit conservative think thank Jewish Policy Center authored by Guermantes Lailari on September 3, 2024.
My previous article highlighted China’s covert military training, supply of weapons and technical tunneling assistance to Hamas. Some sources provided me information that China sent weapons to Hamas via Algeria. Algeria’s prominent role in excoriating Israel is consistent with the hypothesis that Algeria helps China provide covert aid to Hamas. Egypt’s role in countenancing extensive smuggling operations involving weapons, construction equipment, and construction material, and supporting Hamas during mediation also bears scrutiny.
OIC declarations and leaked information suggests that the Chinese, the Russians, and the OIC countries will push hard for a disastrous two-state “solution” in which elections would be held in Gaza and the West Bank. Recall that Hamas overwhelmingly won legislative election in 2006 (74 Hamas seats versus 45 Fatah seats out of 132 seats). Abbas cancelled presidential elections after his four-year term ended in 2009 for fear of Hamas beating him.
The fear of a two-state solution—the solution that Western “leftists” portray as essentially unworkable and toothless—from Zionists is palpable. From The Times of Israel reporting on November 17, 2025:
National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir said Monday that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas should be placed in solitary confinement and senior PA officials should be targeted for assassination if the UN advances recognition of a Palestinian state, hours before a Security Council vote on a resolution endorsing US President Donald Trump’s comprehensive Gaza plan.
The article referred to by Guermantes Lailari is titled China’s Support of Hamas: Evidence and Actions from written in Spring 2024.
This Guermantes Lailari fellow is a regular overt regime change operative. If you do a casual search for his name, you’ll find that he’s been pushing for arming Taiwan separatists on outlets such as Taipei Times and Radio Free Asia so that America can make it China’s Ukraine. The ultimate prize of America’s military adventures in the Middle East, including its war against Palestine, has always been China.
For those curious, Guermantes Lailari’s bio:
Guermantes Lailari is a retired USAF Foreign Area Officer specializing in the Middle East and Europe as well as counterterrorism, irregular warfare, and missile defense. He has studied, worked, and served in the Middle East and North Africa for over 14 years and similarly in Europe for six years. He has also worked and traveled in Asia. He was a US Air Force Attaché in the Middle East, served in Iraq and holds advanced degrees in International Relations and Strategic Intelligence. After retiring from the USAF, he worked as a contractor in variety of positions including working for the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict (ASD-SOLIC) Combatting Terrorism Technical Support Office (CTTSO) for four years and managed a US forward based radar in the Middle East for three years. He is currently conducting research on authoritarian and totalitarian regimes that threaten the US, including examining strategies and policies to understand and respond to China and Iran.
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Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 19 2025 16:54 utc | 283
PART 3
With the UN resolution voting results now out in public, the Palestinian resistance factions have not used language that specifically condemned Algeria, despite Algeria neither abstaining nor voting against it. Naturally, there is no condemnation of Russia and China as well.
The Cradle provided the full texts of Hamas, PIJ and PFLP statements that were made in response to the UN resolution voting results on Telegram.
These factions all called for the international community to respect Palestinian sovereignty and not impose an external guardianship against the will of the Palestinian people. No nation was explicitly singled out in all 3 statements, not even Israel, but PIJ did mention “American-led international governing authority”. That’s about it.
What is extremely strange is that in the English social media spaces, there is a sudden outpouring of condemnation of Russia and China from Western “leftists” (liberals).
I’d like to say this incident made me increasingly suspect that many Western “leftists” are CIA operatives, but I think it’s simpler for me to adhere to a principle I’ve previously stated on MoA before: unless definitively proven otherwise, it’s safer to assume that all citizens of the imperial core are CIA operatives because they’re functionally the same, even if they don’t officially work for any intelligence agencies.
I will speculate a little as to why Russia and China chose to abstain instead of vetoing, based on what I can gather from online discussions and my own readings. Russia and China avoided the trap of being labeled as the ones for upending the peace process and contributing to the continued murder of Palestinians, yet at the same time Russia and China clearly demonstrates that they will not be associated with a plan that is championed by America and, more importantly, by Algeria.
In the official UN press release on November 17, 2025, the threat of being slandered for upending the peace process is real:
Before the vote, the representative of the United States — the author of today’s text — stressed that it is “no mere paper promise, but a lifeline”. The Force, he said, will deploy under a unified command to secure Gaza’s streets, oversee demilitarization, protect civilians and escort aid through safe corridors — “all while Israel phases out its presence and a vetted Palestinian police force takes on a new role”, he said. While noting concerns expressed over lack of clarity on certain points, he nevertheless warned against hesitation and emphasized: “A vote against this resolution is a vote to return to war.”
There were earlier veiled threats from America too, like this one reported by Reuters on November 13, 2025:
The Russian draft, also seen by Reuters, requests that the U.N. Secretary-General identify options for an international stabilization force for Gaza, and does not mention the “Board of Peace” that the U.S. has proposed as a transitional administration for Gaza.
The U.S. mission to the U.N. urged the Security Council to move ahead with Washington’s resolution.
“Attempts to sow discord now – when agreement on this resolution is under active negotiation – has grave, tangible, and entirely avoidable consequences for Palestinians in Gaza,” a U.S. mission spokesperson said. “The ceasefire is fragile and we urge the Council to unite and move forward to secure the peace that is desperately needed.”
Western “leftists” have a strange habit of championing positions that are ruinously aggressive—positions even more aggressive than the people doing the fighting and dying on the ground.
Whose interests do Western “leftists” really serve?
Recall that Hamas agreed to a ceasefire with Israel that took effect on October 10, 2025. Since then, Israel violated the ceasefire agreement at least 393 times from October 10 to November 19, and Israeli attacks have killed at least 242 Palestinians and injured 622, according to Al Jazeera.
Why don’t Western “leftists” condemn Hamas for being naive and for trusting Israel?
Perhaps there are other considerations at play here that Hamas is aware of but Western “leftists” who are cloistered in the safety of the imperial core don’t.
It’s almost as if the Western “leftists” who think that Ukrainians should fight to the last man to defend “democracy”/”freedom” against the evil mafia country of Russia run by Putin—these very same “leftists” also want to exhaust every single Palestinian life fighting against the American proxy, Israel, while these Western “leftists” do safe, comfortable marches and sloganeering and other purely symbolic acts of “resistance” that do nothing to alter the course of the genocide perpetrated by America.
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Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 19 2025 17:07 utc | 284
PART 4 (FINAL)Ruinous aggression borne from (ostensible) ignorance prompted this part of my discussion on UN Security Council Resolution 2803.
Oh, Ali Abunimah thinks he’s very clever by quoting Mao even though he’s not an avowed Marxist. Guess what, I can quote Mao too, and from passages that are even more pertinent to the matter at hand.
OPPOSE BOOK WORSHIP May 1930
I. NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK
Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn’t that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?
It won’t do!
It won’t do!
You must investigate!
You must not talk nonsense!
The barfly michaelj72 is one of the worst offenders on MoA in this regard. All he does is constantly post “takes” from social media like X/Twitter without actually taking the effort of investigating the issue thoroughly and forming an independent opinion.
ON POLICY December 25, 1940
To correct the lop-sided views of many Party cadres on the question of tactics and their consequent vacillations between “Left” and Right, we must help them to acquire an all-round and integrated understanding of the changes and developments in the Party’s policy, past and present. The ultra-Left viewpoint is creating trouble and is still the main danger in the Party. In the Kuomintang areas, there are many people who cannot seriously carry out the policy of having well-selected cadres working underground for a long period, of accumulating strength and biding our time, because they underestimate the gravity of the Kuomintang’s anti-Communist policy. At the same time, there are many others who cannot carry out the policy of expanding the united front, because they over-simplify matters and consider the entire Kuomintang to be quite hopeless and are therefore at a loss what to do. A similar state of affairs exists in the Japanese-occupied areas.
On MoA, Arch Bungle and Giyane are the usual CIA operatives pretending to be insane fundamentalist warmongers pushing for “left” opportunism trying to get the entirety of the resistance: Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, Russia, China, Iran etc to commit resources they can’t afford to frivolously throw away.
As a Palestinian diaspora member who is a citizen of the imperial core, Ali’s vocal support for Palestine is as performative as the protests from citizens that do not alter American policy on Palestine. Ali is a traitor to the Palestinian people.
In fact, Ali’s betrayal may be even more vile DJ Khaled’s. DJ Khaled is simply a Palestinian-American millionaire bourgeoisie who is acting in accordance with his class interest by keeping silent about Palestinian issues. Ali Abunimah is a self-employed “journalist” operating a nonprofit publication that runs on reader donations and freelances occasionally, making him a petite bourgeoisie who packages and sells Palestinian suffering as his source of income. At crucial junctures such as these past few days, Ali directs vitriol against the few powers, Russia and China, that can challenge America to encourage the Palestinian people to willingly isolate themselves on the international stage even more and consequently promote defeatism.
Anyone who has loudly condemned Russia and China since the passing of UN has made it abundantly clear that they’re agents of American imperialism.
One last thing: the barflies attacking woke, trans, immigrants and other marginalized groups aren’t friends of China or Russia either just because they’re standing up for China or Russia on this issue. These barflies are enemies who desire to claim Russian (non-imperialist capitalist) and Chinese (non-imperialist socialist) achievements as their own to garner support for their fascist projects, simultaneously tarnishing the reputations of Russia and China.
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Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 19 2025 17:17 utc | 285
PART 1, 2, 3, 4 (SUMMARY)
I know people love reading short emotionally charged headlines instead of long pieces (which might be why journalism is dead), so here’s the short version for the braindead:
- Ali Abunimah is an American and therefore automatically a fascist who betrays his homeland Palestine, except he does it in a “leftist” way.
- Russia actually did propose an alternative resolution that did not receive support from other Security Council members.
- Objections from Russia did make America amend the resolution’s language to at least mention Palestinian statehood, something that made Israel go absolutely ballistic.
- Algeria is the unofficial representative of Gaza/Hamas/PIJ/PFLP (versus West Bank/Fatah/PLO/PA).
- Algeria voted yes on UN Security Resolution 2803.
- Russia and China chose the diplomatic option of not going against Algeria’s wishes by abstaining.
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Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 19 2025 17:21 utc | 286
” Anyone who has loudly condemned Russia and China since the passing of UN has made it abundantly clear that they’re agents of American imperialism. One last thing: the barflies attacking woke, trans, immigrants and other marginalized groups aren’t friends of China or Russia either just because they’re standing up for China or Russia on this issue. These barflies are enemies who desire to claim Russian (non-imperialist capitalist) and Chinese (non-imperialist socialist) achievements as their own to garner support for their fascist projects, simultaneously tarnishing the reputations of Russia and China.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 19 2025 17:17 utc | 285 ”
What utter bollocks
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 19 2025 17:37 utc | 287
I had an idea today that MIGHT (big “might”) be some sort of explanation for Russia’s abstention-cum-critic of t.he resolution:
Maybe a kind of aikido move where you get out of the way of an adversary’s trajectory/momentum/inertia to give them the chance to auto-destruct?
Even if so this “aikido” play would be indefensible because more innocent Pals are destroyed long before this possible “aikido” effect manifests.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 18:06 utc | 288
Ali Abunimah on UNSC 2803: ‘An Obligation to Veto’
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1991172321084579995
“UNSC Resolution 2803 is so counter and so devastating to norms of international law, the UN Charter and the right to self-determination and sovereignty for all peoples, that Russia, China, Britain and France were obligated to veto it, no matter what Arab regimes and Palestinian collaborators with Israel advised.
Obviously, since France and Britain are open enemies of the Palestinian people and their rights and possess no sovereignty of their own as mere puppet regimes of Washington, they would only ever have supported it.
That leaves Russia and China who purport to uphold these principles, and the more I read this resolution and analyses about it, the more it is clear to me that they had an obligation to veto it that transcends the Palestinian issue, to the extent that they still believe that the UN system matters at all. I find no way around that.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 19 2025 18:26 utc | 289
UN Security Council Renews Yemen Sanctions For Another Year
https://x.com/rosendo_joe/status/1991182727106744743
“China and Russia also just failed to veto a UNSC resolution that continues to punish Yemen for its armed resistance to genocide.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 19 2025 18:29 utc | 290
DO NOT call them palls, it is rude and disgusting, like they are the little piles of mud.
Your government is evil, and there is no excuse. So for you, ,massive cowards.
You, for the big part are just little piggies hiding behind the walls, thinking you are safe.
But you are not, as your own govt, crazy and evil, and deterred by South somewhat, not by Russia mind you, they are turning on you.
I am so glad that you will suffer under the pedo Fatboy agenda for the elites.
Cheers, drop your attitude, keep your panties….
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 18:34 utc | 291
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 18:34 utc | 291
at Jane, another…
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 18:35 utc | 292
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 18:06 utc | 288
You honestly do not know what you are talking about.
As the citizen of the world, you have ZERO points.
I am looking forward to your silly country with your silly pres with a little dick turn on all of you.
Are you even aware how despised you are all in the world, how ridiculous you are.
You have no more military advantage, my god ylou are hated and despised all over the world.
Fu..ck off.
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 18:42 utc | 293
False hope sellers who monetize on lies are:
1) Sonar21, CIAis always CIA, notice his very active presence in Russia, closely connected to Martyanov who emigrated from Russia
2) Globalsouth, Amarinth, sovereinsta, the assistent of Saker.
Saker, BTW, had decency to withdraw when he realized the things.
Do give the money to palestine, not to them.
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 18:56 utc | 294
Re:
“A vote against this resolution is a vote to return to war.”
There were earlier veiled threats from America too, like this one reported by Reuters on November 13, 2025:
The Russian draft, also seen by Reuters, requests that the U.N. Secretary-General identify options for an international stabilization force for Gaza, and does not mention the “Board of Peace” that the U.S. has proposed as a transitional administration for Gaza. The U.S. mission to the U.N. urged the Security Council to move ahead with Washington’s resolution. “Attempts to sow discord now – when agreement on this resolution is under active negotiation – has grave, tangible, and entirely avoidable consequences for Palestinians in Gaza,” a U.S. mission spokesperson said. “The ceasefire is fragile and we urge the Council to unite and move forward to secure the peace that is desperately needed.
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I find this contention absurd—that these statements have “warned” the russians and Chinese not to use their vetoes.
These statements are narrative control of the first order. Such statements neede to be challenged, not accepted as Truth.All Russia and China have to do is contradict and deny the validity of such threats dressed up as The Truth and throw the ball right back un thew court of those makinf such self-serving arrogant statements. I cannot think that Russua nand China actually follow these kinds of “orders” from the Western imperialists.
No, I think they had their OWN reasons for abstaining. Like those reasons or not.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 19:05 utc | 295
Now would be the time for The Donald to withdraw all US support of the UN!!!
And kick it out of the US of A.
At this point I believe that has become a reasonable demand
to be made by any reasonable American.
Inetrnational center and symbol of shame.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 7:48 utc | 265
Why?
The most lethal weapon the US ever invented is the UN.
Against which no state on earth has a peer.
Burevestnik? DF-21? Khorramshar? They don’t come close.
Move over, Raytheon!
Nothing kills entire nations like the United Nations.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 19:11 utc | 296
As predicted years ago, once the evil has consumed everything in its way it will begin to consume itself:
https://youtu.be/rLB4nYyuuxA?si=JLkd1B9dOEB61EAs
(From Mahmoud Od)
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 19:14 utc | 297
Posted by: stranger | Nov 19 2025 18:42 utc | 293
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Hey, little boy, have you actually done anything concrete, say, in your community, to help Pals or advance Pal rights —to walk your Big Swinging Dick talk?
I was just waiting to see who would take my anodyne post as a challenge to have a little freakout—about the US, about “Yanks,” about women, about American women (multiple choice here!!).
I thought it would be DA, but you got there first!!
All you wish for others I wish for you.
The Golden Rule.
Inshallah.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 19:17 utc | 298
Inquiring minds would wonder if some astute reader can speculate on the back channel discussions prior to Security Council meeting with Iran/Russia/China and other West Asian bodies of Resistance. Clearly, US/IS/UK/EU threaten return to status quo ante with all of them piling in against Gazans. Not a good choice. From a psychological perspective, the passage of the Resolution spurred continuing hubris and overreach – with Ben Givir threatening to assassinate all of the Palestine Authority figures. Information seeping out re prison conduct indicates all IS prisons employ the same prisoner management techniques as Sde Teideman – unchecked physical verbal and, most repugnant, sexual abuse. Also, lone soldiers who have enlisted in the IDF for opportunity to snipe children, disabled, elderly and women in the tradition of the Bosnian war. Of course passage of this Resolution, paves the way for US boots on the ground, a winning deal within the US, a prior plank in the MAGA saga. Netanyahu and his cadre are presiding over a badly divided Israel, at war in the West Bank and Gaza (with the unarmed and unprotected), Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Iran and sotte voce with the Egypitan troops stationed in large numbers at the southern border of Gaza. All of Axis of Genocide countries appear financially hollowed out and short on high performance weapons to be shared between Israel and the Ukraine. Please advise – what could go wrong in this scenario? In real terms, Qui Bono?
Posted by: abierno | Nov 19 2025 19:22 utc | 299
Nothing kills entire nations like the United Nations.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 19 2025 19:11 utc | 296
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Well, your comment implies that “reasonable Americans” want to destroy nations. ????
Like Singaporeans, say????
I think you also missed the irony re DJT’s now using the UN for his own ends, which he so excoriated in his first term and said the US should leave.
Lighten up.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 19 2025 19:22 utc | 300