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November 16, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-268

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Please for anyone who knosws… how will this horror show for the Palestinians comes to an end..? 

Posted by: William | Nov 16 2025 13:25 utc | 1

When ?

 
when Genociders can no longer travel freely overseas.  When Genociders have overseas assets siezed. 
we are closer than you think

Posted by: Exile | Nov 16 2025 14:02 utc | 2

Once again, the US and Israel subtly change their position.  Whatever “Part 2” of the “Peace Plan” was supposed to be – and no-one knows anything beyond rumors – it is now said to be that Israel keeps the whole area it now holds, which is at least 53% of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinians will be allowed to live in the ruins of the rest of it, where they will be completely under Israeli and foreign control. 
 
There seems no pushback of significance from the UN to this continued occupation and starvation regimen;  the UN doesn’t even threaten actual repercussions to Israel for what it is doing in Palestine, just some muttered “tut-tut’s”.
 
https://thecradle.co/articles/us-outlines-plan-for-a-divided-gaza-under-israeli-foreign-troop-control
 
Also, Trump is now trading F-35s, drones, and possibly nuclear weapons to Saudi Arabia in exchange for investments in Trump properties – and this personal deal does not necessarily include Saudi Arabia’s alignment with Israel.  I.e.; Trump is using US-made weapons and permission for nuclear enrichment (or actual already-built nuclear weapons) to enrich his own family, as though the Trump family owns these things themselves and are free to trade any of them.  The idea is that if it came to war with Iran, Saudi Arabia would have weaponry for use in supporting the US side.  And, of course, the Trumps make piles of cash on the properties without ever having invested a dime of their own money.
 
https://thecradle.co/articles/trump-branded-luxury-property-coming-to-saudi-arabia-as-kingdom-outlines-defense-wish-list
 
The future is looking rather bleak no matter where you live on this planet.  And poor little Gaza…..good God, how they have suffered!

Posted by: teri | Nov 16 2025 14:16 utc | 3

The international community by a supermajority decided on a fair and just peace plan back in Sept 2024 when it passed UNGA resolution 12626.
https://press.un.org/en/2024/ga12626.doc.htm
 
The Palestinians have offered Israelis a secure and lasting Peace in their Peking Declaration signed in July 2014. this peace plan jives with the decision of the International community.
Text of Peking Declaration ( in arabic)https://dflp.org/4411/

Posted by: Exile | Nov 16 2025 14:25 utc | 4

And poor little Gaza…..good God, how they have suffered!
 
Posted by: teri | Nov 16 2025 14:16 utc | 3
 
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But what righteousness and heroic suffering it has been! The Gazans and the Yemeni have demonstrated the best of what humanity is capable of.
 
That contrast is made so clear by the insanity of the Israelis and their Imperial masters.
 
Tragedy is suffering without purpose. There is infinite purpose in this conflict both material and metaphysical.
 
Zionism (and its gay proponents) is the greatest evil the world has confronted.
 
Zionists have opted out of humanity with their psychopathic beliefs masquerading as religion.
 
There is no other significant religion that preaches murder, rape, and theft.
 
Anti-humanity. The enemy of us all.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 14:59 utc | 5

“Tragedy is suffering without purpose. ”
 
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 16 2025 14:59 utc | 6
 
Balderdash.
 
I am confident that Aristotle understands the meaning of tragedy more than your slap dash idiocy.  True tragedy  brings ‘catharsis’.
 
ie the Tragedy re. Gaza Genocide creates understanding such that the “tragedy’ , the suffering, is redeemed by  justice coming to the aggressors and sympathy for the afflicted-as we can see that phenomenon now occurring in the West.
 
Hence, ‘tragedy does have purpose.
 
“In his Poetics, the ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle defined tragedy as a morally ambiguous genre in which a noble hero goes from good fortune to bad. For Aristotle, the tragic hero can’t be totally evil or purely good, but instead, must be a “character between these two extremes… whose misfortune is brought about not by vice or depravity, but by some error or frailty, also known as hamartia,” that is, by a fatal flaw. The point of Greek tragedy is to use this morally ambiguous character’s death to create an emotional effect in an audience, a purifying sort of emotional release that Aristotle calls catharsis. In Ancient Greece, tragic theater was a ritual performance where the negative emotions of a society could be purged, and the end result had political goals: a better-functioning Athenian democracy.”

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 15:22 utc | 6

Doest this mean Russians helped in the genocide of Palestine ?
 
” Putin highlighted the presence of the nearly 2 million Russian-speaking residents of Israel. “It is almost a Russian-speaking country today. And, undoubtedly, we always take this into account in Russia’s contemporary history,” he said. ”
https://www.rt.com/news/620076-israel-russian-speaking-putin/
 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 16 2025 15:25 utc | 7

The head Zio-Nazi speaks.
 
“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: ‘Our opposition to a Palestinian state in any territory has not changed. Gaza will be demilitarized, and Hamas will be disarmed, the easy way or the hard way. I do not need affirmations, tweets, or lectures.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:28 utc | 8

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 15:22 utc | 7
 
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No one cares what a bunch of sodomites Greeks had to say about anything except sodomites Zionists…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 15:29 utc | 9

I fully expect Azerbaijan to be used as a staging post, to disrupt BRICS nations trade routes in the region.
 
“Aliyev, the President of Azerbaijan, announced that the construction of the “Trump route” in Azerbaijan is almost complete. This refers to the Zangazur corridor, a railway that connects parts of Azerbaijan through Armenia. Its construction was agreed upon at a meeting in Washington by Trump, Aliyev, and Pashinyan.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:31 utc | 10

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:31 utc | 11
 
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How?
 
With what money and engineering expertise?
 
I can proclaim that I am establishing a lunar colony but that is obviously insane, as I do not have the means to do so.
 
Trump (and the Zionist human trafficking West) rule by press release. They talk big and deliver nothing. Constantly.
 
Their inability to execute highlights their inability to compete.
 
Notice, the Axis Powers rarely make such proclamations. They plan and execute. They talk when the job is done, not while its still a dream.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 15:37 utc | 11

The West adores the proscribed lead terrorist and  headchopper,   Julani – I’m sure the Yanks and their minions wouldn’t allow Julani to attack the Zio-Monsters. 
 
“Turkey represents the most serious threat to Israel today. The Turks are arming al-Julani’s army, a jihadist army, and turning Syria into an outpost to attack Israel,” – Amichai Chikli, Israeli Minister of Diaspora Affairs”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:42 utc | 12

WE know they’ll never truly be a Palestinian state, until the Zio-Monster illegal settlers squatting in Palestine are removed completely.
 
“The United States announces officially and explicitly that the goal of the “Gaza Plan,” which is expected to be approved this week at the UN Security Council, is the establishment of a “palestinian state.” The U.S., Qatar, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Jordan, and Turkey stated in a joint declaration, published through the U.S. mission to the UN that: “We issue this statement as member states convened at senior levels to begin this process, which offers a path to self-determination and to the establishment of a palestinian state.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:43 utc | 13

how will this horror show for the Palestinians comes to an end..? 
Posted by: William | Nov 16 2025 13:25 utc | 1
 
They will not pass from the face of the earth, but will triumph over the greatest evil this world has ever known.
 
A thousand years from now, their descendants will read in history books, how they prevailed over the West, as in previous millennia they prevailed over the East.
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 16 2025 15:49 utc | 14

 LoveDonbass @ (11) 
 
I take it you are referring to my (10) comment
 
Yes, you make good points – and I can’t say one way or the other if its propaganda or not, but I can say that Azerbaijan will be used as some sort of staging post – as most US allies are – and in the case of Azerbaijan,  it must surely be used to carry out disruptive actions against BRICS nations.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:51 utc | 15

The Venezuelan traitor speaks – Maduro should arrest this treacherous b*stard – no doubt the US Terrorist state would see her arrest as a cue to attack.
 
“Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado has called on the Bolivarian National Armed Forces to lay down their arms and cease following the orders of the Venezuelan government. “What is going to happen is already happening. That decisive hour is imminent. Act now, at this very moment. Lower your weapons, do not attack your people, make the decision today to stand with Venezuela’s freedom when the precise hour arrives. The worst hostages are those who are forced to carry out this barbarity. Those who obey infamous orders, ruining the lives of their own brothers. They feel guilty. They cannot look their children or their mothers in the eyes. The position each one of you takes will mark your life forever. History, the law and the Venezuelan people will be your judges”
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:56 utc | 17

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 15:22 utc | 7 ##### No one cares what a bunch of sodomites Greeks had to say about anything except sodomites Zionists…
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 15:29 utc | 9

 
       Thanks for confirming your Philosophical  Philistinism.
 
       Oh , so if we are conflating philosophy with  personal morality you must have a problem with the Prophet Muhammad as he married his thirteenth  wife , Alisha, when she was 6 years old-that is child smuggling.  Then he consecrated his marriage with Aisha when she was nine years old-that is statutory rape.
 
Yet, in your absurd  morality, its  the Greek philosophers whom the ‘evil’ ones.
 
You are such a hypocrite.
 

 

 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 16:08 utc | 19

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:42 utc | 12

The West adores the proscribed lead terrorist and headchopper, Julani – I’m sure the Yanks and their minions wouldn’t allow Julani to attack the Zio-Monsters. “Turkey represents the most serious threat to Israel today. The Turks are arming al-Julani’s army, a jihadist army, and turning Syria into an outpost to attack Israel,” – Amichai Chikli, Israeli Minister of Diaspora Affairs”

That would certainly be a first. Do you believe it?
 
How about the following scenario: all those combat day labourers currently idling in Idlib and Aleppo are called back into service and sent into Lebanon to tear up the south and Beqaa valley. All with Israeli air cover, US-UK assistance and overall blessing from the wider West.

Posted by: robin | Nov 16 2025 16:17 utc | 20

Tensions rising between China and Japan.
 
“China sends three warships towards Japan after Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi’s Taiwan-related remarks prompted a sharp response from Beijing. China has also warned its citizens against any travel to Japan as relations between Tokyo and Beijing continue to deteriorate – South China Morning Post.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 16:18 utc | 21

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 14th November 2025: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update
Covers Gaza and ME

Posted by: The Busker | Nov 16 2025 16:20 utc | 22

 robin (20).
 
No I personally don’t believe it,   al-Julani as you say – wouldn’t allow his forces to fire a shot in anger at the Zionists – just as the Aoun, won’t allow the Lebanese army to fire a shot back at the Zionists – parts of Syria and Lebanon fall within the Greater Israel plan, and the Zionists are making moves on them.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 16:24 utc | 23

If true,  I’m not surprised by that.
 
“The U.S. is proposing a long-term division of Gaza into two areas: a “green zone,” controlled by Israeli and international forces and open for reconstruction, and a “red zone” where most Palestinians have been displaced and no rebuilding is planned, according to The Guardian”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 16:27 utc | 24

Where the US Terrorist State might attack first in Venezuela – ideally the turning of the military heads would be preferrable – to depose and kill Maduro.
 
With the USS Gerald R. Ford CSG now inside SOUTHCOM, the U.S. could launch land strikes at any time
 
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Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 16:30 utc | 25

The French,  and probably the UN wants to use Palestinian traitors to police their own people – just like Nato did in Afghanistan, Perfidious Albion went on to sneak in 27,000 Afghan traitors into England – at a cost to the taxpayer of over £800 million quid, no one would have known about this, but a leaked e-mail exposed it.
 
“A French-led EU plan is being considered by Brussels where 3,000 Palestinians will be trained to act as security forces in the Gaza Strip, Kan11 reports. The plan will be discussed at the EU foreign ministers summit on November 20.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 16:38 utc | 26

Republicofscotland #16. Will you please provide more background regarding Claudia Sheinbaum.   Yes, I know that she is jewish, but I had not seen any indication that she was allied with or promoting zionism.   In fact, I had the impression that she was standing for sovereignty.
 
Also, apparently off topic, but not really.  Today is a very important election for chile.  the two leading candidates are Jara (#1) and Kast (#2).   Jara is said to be a “communist” but to me she seems more of a chile for chilenos.   Kast is a horrible ultra right fanatic who wants to sell off all of chile to the globalists.   In other words, a chileno Melei.     Trump and Bessett just bought Melei for $20 billion and he has snapped right to attention.   Rather, I should say, Trump and Bessett just bribed the argie zionist billionaires …
 
to John Gilbert.  I would love to hear your take on the following links.   Milei’s Explosive Glacier Bill – teleSUR English.pdf  and Guatemala Extradites Argentine Multimillionaire On Drug-Trafficking Charges – teleSUR English.pdf.   The multibillionaire drug trafficker mentioned was/is prominent in mining in Argentina.  Many of the mining companies operating in south america are canadian.    Chile has currently strict laws protecting glaciers, which are likely to be overturned if Kast takes power.     Remembering that canadian nazi Christa Freedland was the founder of the Lima Group which sought to over throw Maduro back in the O’Bomber days and that the current overthrow lunatic, Machado, from her residence in Miami is calling for zionist help in invading Venezuela and stealing all its assets, one wonders if Claudia Sheinbaum is being set up for a fall or is involved.   Lots of canadian mining going on in mexico as well.
 
How does this relate to Gaza?   Trumpstein and zionist money.    The world’s going to hell in a hand basket.   I figured out why they wear the tiny hats.  To receive direct instructions from Satan.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 16 2025 16:39 utc | 27

The Mexican public doesn’t hold back.  Monitor𝕏 (@MonitorX99800): “- Mexican protesters spray-painted “Jewish whore” on the National Palace during the violent anti-corruption demonstration outside the palace in rejection of Claudia Sheinbaum, the country’s first female Jewish president.” | nitter.poast.org
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 15:53 utc | 16

 
Another colour revolution in the making……..

Posted by: drink crow | Nov 16 2025 16:40 utc | 28

No one cares what a bunch of sodomites Greeks had to say about anything except sodomites Zionists…
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 15:29 utc | 9

 
LD 0 – 1 Aristotle  (canuk,  6.)

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 16 2025 16:42 utc | 30

Formerly Miss Lacey (27).
 
Some info I found.
 
Claudia Sheinbaum – Wikispooks

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 16:47 utc | 31

drink crow (28).
 
Yes its a possibility.
 
“She spent four years at the US government’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in Berkeley, California.[2] She was a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and involved in the fifth “report” of the IPCC[3] She was pushed by corporate media. In 2018 she was named one of the BBC‘s 100 Women”
 
Claudia Sheinbaum – Wikispooks

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 16:49 utc | 32

Here are the links.   Sorry about that.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/glacier-law-rollback/   https://buenosairesherald.com/society/crime/argentina-approves-fred-machados-extradition-to-us
There is a telesur post also which I can’t find right now and various others.   Please note the “coincidence” of the name: Machado.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 16 2025 16:55 utc | 33

drink crow #28  That is what I suspect.   Murika is pissed that it can’t have mexican oil, etc.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 16 2025 16:58 utc | 34

Formerly Miss Lacy (27).
 
Probably Jara is better the Kast, Jara is a communist – Kast well.
 
“The Times of Israel had a similar reaction to the news. “Chile’s new president is bitter Israel critic, whose win has many local Jews worried,” its headline read. It, too, glossed over Kast’s background, describing him merely as a “right-wing, pro-Israel politician” whose father was only “likely” a Nazi. In reality, as The Times of Israel itself had reported only weeks previously, the elder Kast voluntarily joined the Nazi Party and was a senior lieutenant in Hitler’s war machine.
Haaretz was at least more open about who Kast was. However, it treated Boric’s opposition to Israeli Apartheid as similarly problematic, seemingly equating supporting Palestine to perpetrating the Holocaust. “In Chile Election, Jews Must Choose Between a Pinochet Supporter and an Israel Basher,” it wrote, explaining that “Kast’s father was in the Wehrmacht; Gabriel Boric demands that Chile’s Jews denounce Israel’s policies. In an election driven more by who they’re against than who they’re for, the Jewish community is in a bind.””
 
Israel Freaks Out as Gabriel Boric’s Elections Signals New Direction for Chile
 
Jara.
 
Of course what politicians say – and what they do once elected – is usually two-different things, but you never know.
 
“Hundreds of locals crowd onto the paved park grounds. Pockets of friends dance together, and children race around their parents’ legs.
They have come to hear one of the frontrunners in Chile’s presidential race: Jeannette Jara.
A former labour minister, Jara is the nominee representing the leftist coalition in Sunday’s election.
But it is her membership in the Communist Party that makes her presidential bid historic. Not since Chile’s return to democracy in 1990 has a Communist candidate enjoyed such broad, mainstream support.
For some, Jara’s success is a barometer for the economic malaise fuelling this year’s election cycle. For others, her candidacy is a symptom of the growing polarisation within Chilean politics.
Jara has campaigned on the former, playing up her working-class roots. She has pledged to support Chile’s public healthcare system, build affordable housing and raise wages.
“Considering that politics generates so much mistrust, being able to gather like this, with hard-working people, really fills my heart,” Jara, 51, told the crowd in Villa Alemana, dressed in blue jeans and a loose-fitting blazer rolled up at the sleeves.
“It will be my priority to improve people’s quality of life.”
 
Who is Jeannette Jara, the communist leading Chile’s presidential election? | Elections News | Al Jazeera
 
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 17:02 utc | 35

Republicofscotland.  Thanks.  Mandatory digital ID very worrying.    In fact, she moved to my do not trust list, color revolution notwithstanding.    cheers all.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 16 2025 17:02 utc | 36

It should come as no surprise that the US Terrorist State doesn’t play by the rules.
 
Ignis Rex (@Ignis_Rex): “The US is sneakily using the 2026-2110 MHz band for spy satellite downlinks going against ITU guidelines. The discovery by Scott Tilley, an engineering technologist and amateur radio astronomer in British Columbia that secret US spy satellites, reportedly part of a SpaceX-built network called Starshield for the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), are transmitting signals in a radio frequency band that is typically reserved for the opposite direction of communication. Here is a summary of the key points: * The Discovery: An amateur satellite tracker, Scott Tilley, inadvertently detected mysterious signals emanating from approximately 170 of these classified satellites. * The Spectrum Issue: The signals were detected in the 2025-2110 MHz band. This frequency range is internationally allocated for Earth-to-space (uplink) transmissions, meaning ground stations use it to send data to satellites. However, the spy satellites are using it for space-to-Earth (downlink) transmissions, sending data back to the ground. * Potential Interference: This unconventional use of the spectrum has the potential to cause interference with other satellites (commercial, scientific, or military) that are listening on that band for commands from ground stations, possibly causing them to become unresponsive. * Coordination: Experts suggest that the NRO likely coordinated this use domestically with the US National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA). However, the use of this band for downlink signals does not appear to have been coordinated internationally through bodies like the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), raising concerns about spectrum transparency with other countries. The United States should follow the ITU’s guidelines on the 2025-2110 MHz band for critical reasons rooted in national self-interest and global leadership: * Protecting U.S. National Assets: This band is designated internationally for uplink (Earth-to-space) commands, which the U.S. government—including NASA and NOAA—uses for critical control and telemetry (TT&C) of its own satellites. Unilateral, non-conforming downlink signals risk causing harmful interference that could compromise or disable U.S. and allied spacecraft. * Upholding Global Order: The ITU’s Radio Regulations are an international treaty. By maintaining compliance, the U.S. upholds its legal and diplomatic obligations, giving it the moral and legal authority to demand compliance when other nations interfere with U.S. commercial or military satellites in different bands. * Ensuring Predictability: The cooperative ITU framework is the cornerstone of reliable global satellite communication. Adherence prevents a “spectrum chaos” scenario where every country sets its own rules, which would ultimately harm the stability and predictability required for future U.S. space sector growth. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/us-spy-satellites-built-by-spacex-send-signals-in-the-wrong-direction/” | nitter.poast.org

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 17:13 utc | 38

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 15:22 utc | 6
Why did you not cite the source of the rather long quote you used? It’s from Wikipedia.

Posted by: Oscar Romero | Nov 16 2025 17:50 utc | 40

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 17:02 utc | 34
 
Thank you for a very informative post on Chilean politics.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 18:03 utc | 41

“No one cares what a bunch of sodomites Greeks had to say about anything except sodomites Zionists…”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 15:29 utc | 9

 “LD 0 – 1 Aristotle  (canuk,  6.)”
 
Posted by: persiflo | Nov 16 2025 16:42 utc | 30
 
Yes, when LD gets bested intellectually-BTW not a high bar-the chronic “sodomite, pedophile , Zionist ” ad hominens come tumbling out clearly illustrating LD has , indeed,  once again, lost the debate.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 18:08 utc | 42

The Americans are employing brinkmanship at the UNSC, having delayed a vote on the so-called “Trump plan” until the eve of the designated expiry of the initial ceasefire. The American sponsored Resolution is on its face a bad proposal, fatally compromised in favour of Israeli interests and priorities. There is an alternative and more even-handed Russian-sponsored proposal in play – presumably intense negotiation and arm-twisting regarding UNSC votes, abstentions and vetoes is ongoing. 
 
If the American plan is adopted then despair is warranted. It is a blueprint for continued punishment of the Palestinian people, and would constitute a backdoor UNSC endorsement of the Greater Israel project. However, for those of us within the “Zone A” (western mediasphere) bubble, useful to remember the reporting on this issue is skewed and incomplete. For example, western press today is uniformly ignoring the backstage politicking, instead focussing on a supposed controversy over Israel’s refusal to allow a Pal state vs the Trump Plan’s weak and unrealizable “pathway to statehood”. 

Posted by: jayc | Nov 16 2025 18:09 utc | 43

“Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 15:22 utc | 6
“Why did you not cite the source of the rather long quote you used? It’s from Wikipedia.”
 
Posted by: Oscar Romero | Nov 16 2025 17:50 utc | 39
 
I thought that was self -evident-considering the prose was in the wiki format-coloured words etc-one would have known.the source.
 
But for individuals , like you, I will reference future Wiki quotes so you can keep up.
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 18:14 utc | 44

So many of the comments here are not appropriate for the Palestine thread. It’s too bad this website couldn’t put “Posted by” and the name first instead at the end. Then if we saw who was writing we could get on to the next one without having to waste time and effort reading the malarkey and/or trollers.

Posted by: Oscar Romero | Nov 16 2025 18:15 utc | 45

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 15:22 utc | 6
 
Thanks, canuk.  The “Poetics” is a good place to follow Aristotle’s ideas about what makes a good play.      The point about tragedy is  well taken. Wben television began there were some really good theatrical presentations,  and in the early days they were live as well.  Are there any new shows that are not propaganda today?  If there are they are not available to the general public unless that public can pay for the privilege.
 
We were fortunate back in the day in the US.  I would recommend PBS for still trying but the violence they seem determined to promote in shows like recent Masterpiece crime show offerings is horrible.   It’s a bit like operatic performances that overmodernize.    If the medium is the message, no thanks.  

Posted by: juliania | Nov 16 2025 18:27 utc | 46

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 18:14 utc | 43
 
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Don’t bother every regular know you post from Wikipedia and AI.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 18:30 utc | 47

Oops,  my apologies. My comment was  OT here and not appropriate.  I thought it was the Week in Review, sorry.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 16 2025 18:32 utc | 48

Westerners are so funny in a retarded child sort of way.
 
The Chinese had mastered tragic story-telling long before the Stoics molested their first not.
 
The self-congratulatory posting is to be expected from uncultured and ignorant Zionists.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 18:32 utc | 49

First boy
 
 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 18:32 utc | 50

hmmmm
always looking for a fight?
“Turkey is the new Iran. It has ambitions to expand its influence in Syria. It is building bases in Syria. It has ambitions to extend its influence to Gaza.”— Israeli Minister of Diaspora Affairs & Social Equality, Amichai Cikli, searching for a new Israeli enemy🔗 @MyLordBebo

Posted by: Jo | Nov 16 2025 18:55 utc | 53

“The Chinese had mastered tragic story-telling long before the Stoics molested their first not. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 18:32 utc | 48
 
Care to share some examples ? 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 16 2025 19:08 utc | 55

” So many of the comments here are not appropriate for the Palestine thread. 
Posted by: Oscar Romero | Nov 16 2025 18:15 utc | 44
 
So true, let me bring things back on topic.
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Doesn’t this mean Russians helped in the genocide of Palestine ?” Putin highlighted the presence of the nearly 2 million Russian-speaking residents of Israel. “It is almost a Russian-speaking country today. And, undoubtedly, we always take this into account in Russia’s contemporary history,” he said. ”
https://www.rt.com/news/620076-israel-russian-speaking-putin/

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 16 2025 19:10 utc | 56

Just a thought.
The Qur’an acknowledges that God once granted the Children of Israel a blessed land (Q 5:21) but insists that God’s favor belongs to “those who believe and do righteousness,” a formula repeated throughout the Qur’an (e.g., Q 2:82; 5:9). The true ummah (Arabic for “nation”) is a community of believers united by faith and moral conduct rather than ethnic descent.
Judaism’s covenant, Christianity’s church, and Islam’s ummah are therefore three versions of a single concept: divine election as responsibility, not supremacy.
Scripture traces every life back to one ancestor, binding humanity into a single family and leaving no room for claims of superiority. Each person bears the divine image, embodying an entire world in miniature – since from Adam came all humanity – and carrying within himself the potential of all future generations. Each life is infinitely precious; to harm one is to harm all.

Posted by: pepe | Nov 16 2025 19:12 utc | 57

More projection from LoveDumbass, here’s more of the deeds of his perfect man and prophet from the Hadith:

وهو أكبر ولد أبويه وقد كان رسول الله (صلى الله عليه وآله) يحبه حباً شديداً حتى كان يقبل زبيبته وهو صغير وربما مص لسانه واعتنقه وداعبه.

Hassan was the eldest one among his siblings and the messenger of Allah loved him so strongly that he used to kiss his penis. And while Hassan was a little boy, that is why he also sucked his penis with his tongue. 

وَقَالَ جَرِيرُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْحَمِيدِ ، عَنْ قَابُوسَ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ: أَنّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ” فَرَّجَ بَيْنَ فَخِذَيِّ الْحَسَنِ وَقَبَّلَ زَبِيبَتَهُ ” قَابُوسُ : حَسَنُ الْحَدِيثِ

Jarir from Qabus bin Abi Zayban, he from his father, who from Ibn Abbas: I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Hassan’s legs apart and kissing his penis. And Qabus bin Abi Zayban is Good in Hadith (حَسَنُ الْحَدِيثِ)

 

 

Posted by: itsallsotiresome | Nov 16 2025 19:29 utc | 58

Isn’t it both ironic and disgusting that the Palestine open thread became the place for some to throw up their hatred of Muslims… ?

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 16 2025 19:49 utc | 59

The Gazans and the Yemeni have demonstrated the best of what humanity is capable of.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 14:59 utc | 5
 
Yes, I would agree with that.  I recently re-watched “Jesus Christ Superstar” (the movie) and was very taken by the lyric sung by Jesus before he is crucified.  He says, “To conquor death, you only need to die.”  I never noticed this line before, or maybe I just wasn’t old enough to think about it much when the movie was made (1973).  This time watching the movie it sounded rather Buddhist/Asian to me, but it made me think.  A lot.  And then it dawned on me that it is also extremely Muslim.  It may be the essence of Islam, but I haven’t read the Quran, so I am getting over my skis here.
 
Most Christians don’t think of it as anything but Jesus dying for them; it is seldom been thought of as a personal thing at all.
 
And that’s all for the religious talk for me today.  Don’t want to clutter the thread.
 
 
 

Posted by: teri | Nov 16 2025 20:04 utc | 60

Isn’t it both ironic and disgusting that the Palestine open thread became the place for some to throw up their hatred of Muslims… ?
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 16 2025 19:49 utc | 58
 
 
Hear! Hear! Not only, but attacks on other posters in general, often viciously.
 
The reason I’ve lost interest in reading and posting.

Posted by: Menz | Nov 16 2025 20:07 utc | 61

This time watching the movie it sounded rather Buddhist/Asian to me, but it made me think.  A lot.  And then it dawned on me that it is also extremely Muslim.  
Posted by: teri | Nov 16 2025 20:04 utc | 59

I advise you then, if you don’t know this movie yet, to watch Man From Earth (2007)

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 16 2025 20:14 utc | 62

Posted by: teri | Nov 16 2025 20:04 utc | 59
 
#######
 
Sister, in Islam (and should be in Christianity and Judaism) death is not the end and an unavoidable element of existence.
 
Now imagine being conscious of that when being broke or heartbroken. The perspective everything changes.
 
Definitely inspires more bravery because there is nothing to lose when making a stand for love or justice.
 
And that is why the Resistance cannot lose this conflict.
 
From their (and mine) perspective, dying doing what is right, and never losing hope, is the ultimate victory.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 20:30 utc | 63

see the 1:08 video at the second link
 
see the 18-second video at the fourth link
 
 
 
https://x.com/Ahmed_hassan_za/status/1989509850041401699
Ahmed Hassan 🇾🇪 أحمد حسن زيد @Ahmed_hassan_za 
 
Not a single day goes by without Israel killing a Palestinian …
 
————
 
https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1989775539515920741
Warfare Analysis @warfareanalysis   
 
⚡️ Shahab Agency: The Zionist occupation stole nearly 17,000 archaeological artifacts from the Al-Basha Palace Museum in Gaza City, which it deliberately destroyed during the war.   
 
This massive collection of historical items disappeared from the palace’s storage, and only 20 artifacts were found in the rubble
 
 
————-
 
https://x.com/OmarHamadD/status/1989802728433017013
Omar Hamad | عُـمَـرْ 𓂆 @OmarHamadD   
 
We drowned in blood for more than two years, and no one moved a finger. 
 
Do you think they’ll react if we drown in rainwater? 
 
A filthy world.
 
————–
 
https://x.com/RamAbdu/status/1990111474619232766
Ramy Abdu| رامي عبده  @RamAbdu 
 
Israel has slaughtered Gaza’s children while the world remains silent, unable even to compel Israel to allow access for international journalists or independent investigation teams.
 
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 16 2025 20:50 utc | 64

Okay, maybe not quite done.
 
@ Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 16 2025 20:14 utc | 61
 
I did see that, but such a long time ago that I barely remember it.  I will re-watch it.  Thanks.
 
@Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 20:30 utc | 62
 
Just thank you in general.
 
Salam, Teri
 
PS: I really don’t know what has happened to my spelling.  Maybe it is ye olde brain tumor, or just old age.  

Posted by: teri | Nov 16 2025 20:50 utc | 65

@itsallsotiresome
fake sunni hadith to degrade the Prophet

Posted by: Ram | Nov 16 2025 21:00 utc | 66

 
https://x.com/BeckettUnite/status/1989996211466584195
Howard Beckett  @BeckettUnite 
 
The UN reports on the ‘systematic’ torture of Palestinians 🇵🇸 held by Israel 🇮🇱 
 
‘Beatings’
‘Including to the genitals’
‘Electric shocks’
‘Starvation’
‘Water boarding’
‘Threats of rape’ 
 
Israel 🇮🇱 is a racist, apartheid, pariah state 
 
Sanctions
Expel 🇮🇱 from the UN 
The Hague now
 
—————
 
 
https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1989919584800182302
Assal Rad  @AssalRad 
 
Any chance you want to mention who destroyed it?
 
 
https://x.com/TheEconomist/status/1989689869367456107
The Economist  @TheEconomist 
 
The scale of the damage in Gaza is unprecedented. Around 1.2m people—60% of the population—are homeless. And shelter is not the only need
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 16 2025 21:59 utc | 67

The Al-Majd / Israel sponsored relocation scheme which delivered more than 150 Gazans to South Africa is a distinctly cynical and sinister operation. 
 
Israel claims the so-called Sharam El-Sheikh agreement (concluded by US, Egypt, Qatar, and Turkey) established the “structured process allowing Gaza’s to leave… with Israel responsible for operational coordination in partnership with (the above sponsors)”.  This has not been confirmed. Previously, Israel’s intent to disperse Gaza’s population was left unrealized due to lack of willing host countries. 
 
The Al-Majd organization charged Gazan’s between $1700-2000 US dollars per person. The participants did not know where the flight would eventually arrive. Despite Israeli claims to the contrary, South Africa was not informed. Not hard to see Israel shipping Palestinians to S Africa as a form of trolling.

Posted by: jayc | Nov 16 2025 22:16 utc | 68

The zionist is a mad scientist. They built a Frankenstein that’s hard to kill but can be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3hfw0paZI
 

Posted by: dobby | Nov 16 2025 22:25 utc | 69

 
see the 8:58 video at the third link
 
see the 3:14 video at the fourth link.
 
 
 
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1989699344811893025
Max Blumenthal  @MaxBlumenthal 
 
Every word of Reem’s tweet is accurate and the community note is false: 
 
The Patten report named no victims of rape on Oct 7, no perpetrators, found “no tangible indications of rape could be identified,” declared “no digital evidence specifically depicting acts of sexual violence was found in open sources,” and accused Israel of “inaccurate forensic interpretations” 
 
Patten even emphasized that her mission “was neither intended nor mandated to be investigative in nature” and came about because of political pressure from Israel, which subsequently blocked an independent UN investigation
 
 
https://x.com/UNSRVAW/status/1989315118358745148
Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls  @UNSRVAW 
 
No Palestinian applauded rape in Gaza. No independent investigation found that rape took place on the 7th of October.
 
 
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1984972198520492039
☀️👀  @zei_squirrel 
 
Norman Finkelstein after carefully studying the genocidal atrocity propaganda rape hoax: “There is not a single shred of evidence for even one rape. In 5000 photos and 50 hours of video from October 7, there is no evidence of any sexual violence at all.”
 
 
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1984976850142065016
☀️👀  @zei_squirrel   
 
Norman makes the point that any sentient human being who isn’t a propagandist liar scumbag like everyone in the Zionist media and political class knows to be an obvious truism: October 7 was literally the most filmed military operation in all of human history, with countless hours of CCTV footage from all the settler communities and military bases, bodycam and other footage from rape-soldiers and police and in helicopters and planes, the phone footage from the settlers, the bodycams from Hamas themselves. 
 
And in all these countless hours of video and tens of thousands of photos, the Israeli death-cult did not identify a single case, not even a single case, of any sexual violence at all, even just groping, let alone rape. 
 
Not even one case. Zero. The number is literally zero.
 
And as Norman notes, there is no other physical evidence either. No forensic evidence, all the bodies that were carefully examined by forensic pathologists did not show a single instance of sexual violence as Haaretz was forced to admit (see https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1942551335632601306). There is nothing. 
 
And yet the New York Times (Jeffrey Gettleman, Anat Schwartz, Adam Sella), BBC (Lucy Williamson, Lucy Manning), Guardian (Bethan McKernan), Washington Post (Shira Rubin), NBC News (Anna Schecter), AP (Tia Goldenberg and Edith Lederer), Reuters (Maayan Lubell and Emily Rose), all conspired together to fabricated and launder the most depraved genocidal atrocity propaganda hoax in modern history, all to ensure that their precious Israeli death and rape-cult could continue its actual mass pedophilic rape and mutilation of Palestinian babies, toddlers, children, girls, boys, women and men. 
 
The most depraved shameless scum who have ever walked this planet……
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 17 2025 0:19 utc | 70

Michael/69
The most depraved shameless scum who have ever walked this planet……
 
Since the reset, all our questions, what happened before? Where did all this old world architecture come from they want to erase and have erased through wars and historical propaganda? Star forts with megalithic stone blocks being built on artificial islands. I’ve seen these and their false history explanation they were forts for war where we were in the horse and buggy age where it would be impossible to build, never mind the man power carrying stone megalithic blocks? Something happened and look who controls us today.
 
Like I said, the zio monster Frankenstein with their fake history writers, we need to find the truth. Then eliminate them, then the truth will be free instead of hidden behind their secret societies they control us with.

Posted by: dobby | Nov 17 2025 1:17 utc | 71

Ram
 
A steaming pile of Islamophobic ,lying garbage can’t really be called a Fake Hadith. But many thanks for taking the time to clean the dogshit up. This thread is full of Islamophobic vomit, but LoveDonbass seems to be happily  swabbing the decks by himself. 
Thanks for your help.
 

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 17 2025 1:19 utc | 72

jayc 67
 
” Israel claims the so-called Sharam El-Sheikh agreement (concluded by US, Egypt, Qatar, and Turkey) established the “structured process allowing Gaza’s to leave…”
 
Obviously I wasn’t there,  but reading between the lines, Kazachstan’s joining the Abraham Accords tells me that Egypt , Qatar and Turkey are also.closet AA members,
Alcoholics Anonymous has privacy rules but Palestinian blood- swiggers Anonymous is less shy. 
 
All one can say is that the closer one gets to Evil, and its cobweb of connections of base human  instincts, terror, brazen arrogance and defiance of Allah, the easier it becomes to reject Evil. 
Both the Egyptian and Turkish deep military states had contracts to dispose of European garbage and toxic waste and they released it into their lands and seas, poisoning their own populations. 
 
These countries have no legislation whatsoever on the release of toxic refrigerant gases.  Turkey is no more than an offshoot of Israel’s human bodyparts industry. Turkey’s deep state is based on  Egypt’s Al Azhar Colonial , Political Islam.
 
So the reality is that when one looks closely at the countries which embrace Political Islam of either the Russian Federation or the USUKIS varieties, they are actually just as corrupted in their westernized  actions as the Shi’a sects are corrupted in their inventions about Ali ra.
 
Jewlani , MbS and Erdogan  don’t have to  be Mizrahi Jews to be  enemies of Islam. 
They may be, but Turkey’s Turkic Nationalism is enough to disqualify it as a Muslim nation. Exceptionalism of every kind is poison. The selfish behaviour of Pakistani car  drivers and car dealers puts the beautiful name of Islam to shame.
 
This crisis in Palestine is a crisis inside Islam as to whether our individual behaviour as Muslims generates the respect that would cause the world to save Palestine .  English people that I come across at work generally seem to prefer their disgusting, broken  lifestyles to the steadfast and peaceful morality of Islam
 
Most English people while hating Israelis and Americans, absolutely reject the rigid morality of Islam.  Hence LoveDonbass definition of tragedy, that the morality of the Palestinian Muslims will earn them no friends in the world. 
But their steadfast morality will likely earn them a place in Allah’s Heaven.
That is the supreme achievement of success.
 
 

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 17 2025 2:16 utc | 73

ON: Zionists Try To Stop Palestine Flag Raising at Toronto City Hall
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3hfw0paZI
 
“First they came for the flag poles and I said nothing.’ City of Toronto goes to court over Palestine flag raising…”
 
Please attend the raising of the Palestine flag at Toronto City Hall’s Nathan Philips Square: Monday, Nov 17, 2025 @ 10:00 am. Long Live Palestine! Long Live Palestinian Resistance! Free Palestine – Down with Zionism! Silence is complicity – Resist don’t collaborate!
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2025 4:32 utc | 74

The E3 is at it again – drafting an anti-Iran resolution at IAEA to justify the next USraeli aggression on Iran: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/irans-response-to-e3s-anti-iran-iaea

Posted by: Ismaele | Nov 17 2025 5:11 utc | 75

Mahmood OD: ‘War Imminent’?
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/videos
 
“The new Iran move| ceasefire headed for collapse| Netanyahu crisis| Escalation ahead|”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2025 5:14 utc | 76

 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/richard-falk-detained-cbsa-palestine-conference-9.6980514
Prominent legal scholar detained at Canadian border while on his way to a conference on Palestine 
Richard Falk says he and his wife were held for close to 4 hours in Toronto 
 
A prominent academic and former UN special rapporteur says he was detained by customs agents in Toronto while on his way to speak at a conference on human rights violations against Palestinians. 
 
Richard Falk, a retired Princeton University professor who was a special rapporteur of the Commission on Human Rights on the situation of human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories, was on his way to Ottawa to speak at the Palestine Tribunal on Canadian Responsibility on Friday and Saturday. 
 
Dubbed a “people’s tribunal,” the event was organized as a forum to analyze and document “Canada’s complicity in the genocide and dispossession of Palestinians, including over the last two years in Gaza,” says a news release from its organizers. 
 
But upon arriving at customs at Toronto’s Pearson International Airport on Thursday with his wife, he says border agents took their passports and led them to an interview room.
 
He said border agents told him they needed to determine whether he and his wife were a national security threat to Canada………
 
————–
 
https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1990150704607248690
Assal Rad  @AssalRad 
 
This story is appalling in any case, but so much worse when you remember the West Bank is PALESTINIAN TERRITORY. 
 
Palestinians are denied medical care in their own land. This is what Israeli occupation means.
 
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-11-16/ty-article/.premium/israel-bars-u-s-physicians-from-entering-west-bank-treating-palestinian-patients/0000019a-8bf5-d3ce-a7de-fffda17c0000
Israel Bars U.S. Physicians From Entering West Bank and Treating Palestinian Patients 
 
Two doctors were denied entry despite receiving permission from a Defense Ministry unit to enter the West Bank. According to their lawyer, the Diaspora Affairs Ministry determined that the nonprofit group HEAL Palestine ‘operates to delegitimize Israel,’ but offered no proof……….
 
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 17 2025 6:03 utc | 77

 
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1989975340228526368
Sarah Wilkinson  @swilkinsonbc 
 
Former Special Rapporteur Prof Richard Falk was en route to examine Canada’s role in the israeli genocide on Gaza, so Canada arrested him
 
————-
 
https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1990123129755074673
Craig Mokhiber @CraigMokhiber 
 
The shocking detention and four-hour interrogation and harassment of the globally respected professors Richard Falk and Hilal Elver by Canadian authorities on “national security” grounds as they entered Canada this weekend to speak on human rights in Palestine is just the latest example of the total disregard for international law of Western governments captured by the Israeli regime and its proxies and their willingness to abuse state power in order to persecute human rights defenders on behalf of the Israeli regime.
 
All Canadians should be worried about this abusive trend, and its implications for Canadian democracy and for their own rights.
 
————-
 
https://x.com/UNIFIL_/status/1990012789759377815
UNIFIL  @UNIFIL_
This morning, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) fired on UNIFIL peacekeepers from a Merkava tank from near a position Israel has established in Lebanese territory.
 
Heavy machine gun rounds hit approximately five meters from the peacekeepers, who were on foot and had to take shelter in the terrain.
 
Peacekeepers asked for the IDF to stop firing through UNIFIL’s liaison channels. They were able to leave safely thirty minutes later, when the Merkava tank withdrew inside the IDF position. Fortunately, no one was injured.
 
https://x.com/UNIFIL_/status/1990012808977682915
This represents a serious violation of Security Council resolution 1701. 
 
Yet again, we call on the IDF to cease any aggressive behavior and attacks on or near peacekeepers, who are working to support the return to the stability that both Israel and Lebanon say they seek…..
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 17 2025 7:25 utc | 78

I myself have an A series Samsung phone. AppCloud can be found by going into apps, then type into search the name AppCloud – you can disable it – but it will switch itself back on and it can even download by itself without permission. 
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 18:58 utc | 54
 
Your quotation missed out one vital phrase: ‘in the region’. As far as I understand it, the spyware is implanted in Samsung Galaxies sold in the Middle East, not in your Galaxy in Scotland.
 
Collecting data from all Samsung Galaxies sold worldwide would fill numbers of whole data centres. As you know, the Israelis collected all telephone calls made in Gaza, and it filled up an entire data centre in Holland, which they then had to evacuate when the scandal got out (the massive consumption of Dutch water and electricity, just to further Israel’s nefarious activities). And that was only one data centre.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 17 2025 9:18 utc | 79

Teri,
 
On orthodox easter – the Choir sings trampling down death by death

Posted by: Exile | Nov 17 2025 11:41 utc | 80

Israel & India Strengthen Defense Ties
 
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/11/13/israel-and-india-strengthen-defense-ties/
 
“United by ‘shared values of terrorism,’ Israel and India are moving to deepen their already robust security cooperation. The governments signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on November 4 to expand their ‘defense, industrial and technological cooperation,’ according to the Israeli and Indian ministries of defense…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2025 11:56 utc | 81

Your posts consistently deliver exactly what your audience needs most right now 💪

Posted by: Naszenaturalne | Nov 17 2025 11:58 utc | 82

More : India-Israel Boost Ties
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxCtubpFbno
 
Hindutva & Zionism

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2025 12:21 utc | 83

JT: Laith Marouf
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-bEbP9_PE8
 
“There’s not one Jewish John Brown.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2025 12:33 utc | 84

This on the Eve of Mark Carney Visit to UAE…(&vid)
 
https://x.com/MohSir25/status/1990135814362198504
 
“The UAE is arming the criminal RSF militia, violating UN/Cdn sanctions. Your silence equals complicity. The world is watching. Honor your ethical duty: stop the flow of Canada-sourced weapons immediately…”
 
mark.carney@parl.gc.ca

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2025 12:53 utc | 85

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 16 2025 15:25 utc | 7
Those 2 million russians (mostly russian speaking too which caused some concern in israel in the 90s and 2000s) all highly qualified engineers and technicians of sorts . Left without income in a crumbled soviet era would have loved getting their hands on f35 electronics and other highly secret developments Israel pursued. A real bonanza for the russian state to have those assets available to tap into.

Posted by: Hankster | Nov 17 2025 13:31 utc | 86

  “Thanks, canuk.  The “Poetics” is a good place to follow Aristotle’s ideas about what makes a good play.      The point about tragedy is  well taken. When television began there were some really good theatrical presentations,  and in the early days they were live as well.  Are there any new shows that are not propaganda today?  If there are they are not available to the general public unless that public can pay for the privilege.”
 
Posted by: juliania | Nov 16 2025 18:27 utc | 46
 
juliana you are a Christian-Jesus death was Tragic-but it was also the redemption of mankind through Jesus’s death..
 
Much like when Socrates could have escaped his fate -went into exile -but took death-his last words were: “Crito I owe a cock to Asclepius ; pay it for me .  Remember to do so”
 
Asclepius was the god of healing; hence, death was a healing for a soul.  This sacrifice foreshadows Jesus crucifixion 500 years later.
 
  

Posted by: canuk | Nov 17 2025 14:07 utc | 87

Posted by: canuk | Nov 16 2025 18:14 utc | 43
 ######
 “Don’t bother every regular know you post from Wikipedia and AI.”

 

Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 16 2025 18:30 utc | 47

 
       Perhaps, Dumbass, but you whom don’t use any any documentation whatsoever  to support  your gibberish;   certainly your non documentation comprises a step down from mine in the posting genre.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 17 2025 14:11 utc | 88

Posted by: Hankster | Nov 17 2025 13:31 utc | 86
are you suggesting Russian Jews are corrupt and willing to betray anyone for a few coins ?

Posted by: Exile | Nov 17 2025 14:17 utc | 89

Posted by: Exile | Nov 16 2025 14:02 utc | 2
We are very far away, Exile, as most of the population is greedy, thus scared to lose some moneys.
Year before, I was really threatening the Amerozios, and forced them to leave the villa in my naighborhood.
The owner being an Italian lady, and the cleaner Estonian (she barked), The owner fired her as she, the eastonian was very rude to me. 
There are Macedonian ex friends nearby, who take care of the big property owned by ( I suspect) Bosnian war criminal who took part in war of YU. Big property.
When I saw the Israelis there, and I shouted, they came to their defence.
Friendship’ terminated.
There is a lot to work with, Exile, and we see, and we can not be cowards.
SFSN

Posted by: stranger | Nov 17 2025 14:47 utc | 90

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 17 2025 0:19 utc | 70
 
Thank you for that information, and for the information you and so many others of “b’s” contributors are putting up here.  A daily catalogue of the unacceptable.
 
 On eyewitness accounts from Westerners on Western/Israeli conduct in general – for it could not have been done without the West assisting or promoting the atrocities –  Craig Murray travels to that region and also bears witness.  As you will know Alastair Crooke, though I don’t think he goes into Israel now, also has detailed knowledge of the region as a whole and is well-informed about what is occurring.   Neither of those can put what is occurring in full perspective.  Their official background means there’s a lot they can’t say.   But they can speak from that full perspective and that gives them more authority than most.  
 
 Some relatives of mine travelled in the ME in the 80’s and brought back albums of now sepia-coloured photographs.  Wonderful photographs.   I leafed through them recently.  Dead history now.  Many of the ancient buildings gone and with them the people who lived there and tended to them or worshipped there.  William Dalrymple has written of that mosaic of communities that survived in spite of millennia of disruption and persecution.  Many now shattered, sometimes exterminated.  They did not survive us.  
 
We opened the Gates of Hell for countless millions and ignored the resultant carnage, that carnage a disregarded consequence of geopolitical manoeuvring almost entirely concealed from the general public.  Those responsible for the destruction, those sitting in offices in the States and Europe planning the setting of tribe against tribe and faction against faction that led to that destruction, and all too often often took a hand it it themselves, will never be held to account.  That’s not how it works, ever.  But in Gaza the monstrous consequences of our dealings in the Middle East have burst into full view.  
 
A view many do not wish to inspect.  For most of us looking away is the reaction to atrocities one has no veto on; but if one can it is better to bear witness as you do than to look away.  As Mearsheimer has said, some time we’re going to have to stop and consider what has occurred.  What has occurred and is still occurring is even now being swept under the carpet or normalised by the Western politicians, or that is being attempted.  But that daily catalogue of atrocities such as those instanced here will not be forgotten.   Just maybe, the knowledge of what we have done or have allowed to be done in our name will lead to a cessation of those atrocities.  A remote hope but the only hope there is.
 
……………………..
 
Shrine of St Peter, Shama, 2025.
 
https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1885024736100413581
 
…………………………..
 
https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1976231484148285683
 
TIMES OF GAZA @Timesofgaza 
 
 BREAKING Israeli tanks stationed along Al-Rashid Street fired shells directly toward civilians waiting to return to their homes in Gaza City.
 
Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 6:12 utc | 176
 
 

Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 17 2025 14:48 utc | 91

The self-congratulatory posting is to be expected from uncultured and ignorant Zionists.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 18:32 utc | 49
 
You really should stop this nonsense. I know I know. You will do what you believe is right, and that’s fine. Fair even, yet this calling obviously NOT zionists,  zionist is just reducing the meaning/ impact of the word.  

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 17 2025 14:54 utc | 92

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 16 2025 18:58 utc | 54
nitter.poast.org is seemingly not accessible from India. Can you suggest a work around?

Posted by: india-guy | Nov 17 2025 15:05 utc | 93

DW: Mohammad Marandi
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojnTeHAtT1U
 
“Iran’s ‘war alert’ explained…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2025 15:20 utc | 94

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 17 2025 14:54 utc | 92
 
######
 
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
 
My burden is that I notice things. Like, I can’t not notice persistent behavior.
 
canuk and several other MAGAs have never condemned the genocide. To Gruff’s credit, he condemns US Imperialism.
 
canuk as with most Western chauvinists are happy to revel in looting, subversion, and murder, but take zero accountability for how their “winning” was obtained. A zero sum approach. Very Zionist, very short-sighted. Parasitic.
 
That’s not ok with me. Disagree with me on every topic, that’s fine.
 
But refuse to acknowledge or worse write pseudo-intellectual rationalizations for oppression, then I have a problem.
 
If you like Bibi, if you like Trump, that’s your thing.
 
Some of us humans find them disgusting, insane, and dangerous.
 
Frankly, as most of us would never let a known pedophile babysit our children, no intelligent person should want to have a Zionist anywhere near them.
 
And I am not diminishing the “power” of the word. I am reinforcing it’s true nature, removing ambiguity.
 
If we can’t agree on what is extermination and theft, then we’re not compatible socially.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 17 2025 15:22 utc | 95

“The self-congratulatory posting is to be expected from uncultured and ignorant Zionists”
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 16 2025 18:32 utc | 49
 “You really should stop this nonsense. I know I know. You will do what you believe is right, and that’s fine. Fair even, yet this calling obviously NOT zionists,  zionist is just reducing the meaning/ impact of the word.  ”
 
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 17 2025 14:54 utc | 92
 
All Dumbass accomplishes  with this naming nonsense is revealing his lack of civility and  intelligence.
 
He has admitted that he is ‘racist’  against White People.
 
Hmmmnnnn….
 
The guy/they/she whatever -is clearly mentally unbalanced.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 17 2025 15:23 utc | 96

Ya little gollum canuck,
How many times we have warned you to refrain from shitting and leaving your little smelly turds all along the Palestine threads.
Be gone. little stinking gollum, ugly as you are.
Be gone

Posted by: stranger | Nov 17 2025 15:34 utc | 97

Please for anyone who knows… how will this horror show for the Palestinians comes to an end..? 
 
Posted by: William | Nov 16 2025 13:25 utc | 1
 
There are only two end points imho.
 
1.  Some kind of Greater Israel flourishes and dominates, e.g. takes over the Gaza Strip and the W bank, plus possibly, part(s) of Lebanon and Syria, etc., with the support of the USA.  + Isr. might somehow provoke a war on Iran, what the consequences of that are — ?  (Consider the last uniquely.)  
 
2. Israel as it exists today (a minuscule violent apartheid state financed by the USA and the ‘W’ as followers) perishes, as its support vanishes, and some country, place, maybe ‘Palestine’ or some other name is established via support from the UN, the EU, the US, Russia, the 5 Eyes, India.. to forge a new multi, religious, ethnic state, where equal rights prevail for all, which implies that Jews would no longer be allowed or encouraged to kill Palestians, Christians, Muslims, and more (see what is going on in Syria…)
Imho for now.
 
   

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 17 2025 15:35 utc | 98

Zionism is a “belief”. It’s not racial, genetic, or ordained by God.
 
What a person believes is optional. No one has to be a Zionist.
 
I keep trying to get an argument going (for learning purposes) about whether Zionist beliefs acted upon removes a person from consideration as a human.
 
I imagine most would agree that cannibalism is not human behavior, in the sense that it violates many human social norms stretching worldwide and across cultures. Someone who decides to be a cannibal is generally regarded as crazy and to be ostracized, if not unalived.
 
As far as being dangerous and vile, it is a narrow gap between being a Zionist and a cannibal.
 
Pedophilia, a big Zionist fixation, is like Cannibalism which is like Zionism.
 
Why can’t people call it out?
 
I notice Zionists get mad when I talk about it.
 
Here’s the thing. Stop stealing, raping, and killing, and I will gladly talk about anything else.
 
Likewise, I will stop talking about the West when the West (admittedly a euphemism for European culture) stops institutionalizing evil.
 
If one doesn’t want the smoke, don’t start fires…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 17 2025 15:36 utc | 99

 india-guy (93).
 
Sorry I can’t suggest an alternative unless of course you have an X account – AppCloud is active in India.
 
‘Unremovable Israeli spyware’ on your Samsung phone? Here’s what the controversy is all about – Android Authority

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 17 2025 15:50 utc | 100