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November 9, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-262
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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@ Noirette Esther, Esterke: From Ancient Greek Ἐσθήρ (Esthḗr), from Biblical Hebrew אֶסְתֵּר (ʾestēr). Has been connected to Old Persian 𐎠𐎿𐎫𐎼 (a-s-t-r /star-/, “star”) (whence Middle Persian 𐭮𐭲𐭫 (stl /star/, “star”), 𐭮𐭲𐭠𐭫𐭪 (stʾlk /stārag/, “star”), Persian ستاره (sitāra / setâre, “star”)), from Proto-Indo-European *h₂stḗr (if so, a distant doublet of star); or else to Akkadian 𒀭𒈹 (Ištar, “Ishtar”) (Hebrew עִשְׁתָּר (ʿištār)). Ishtar: Doublet of Astarte and Ashtoreth. (Wiki) Astarte (generally defined as ‘love’/war): https://pcamarinhoa.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/pieza-de-bronce-de-tartessos.png Posted by: Ornot | Nov 10 2025 16:14 utc | 101 Ahmed Hussein al-Sharaa, also known by his nom de guerre Abu Mohammad al-Julani, is a Syrian politician, revolutionary, and former rebel commander who has served as the president of Syria since 2025. He previously served as the emir of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 10 2025 16:54 utc | 102 Kushner, Witkoff & Bibi met today. Was it to discuss the bad Yifat truth teller who tried to check out? Genocide is a Zionist profit machine. Stop the machine. Cancel it. Posted by: chuckn | Nov 10 2025 17:06 utc | 103 Recently updated | Nov 10 2025 15:06 utc | 91 Posted by: JB | Nov 10 2025 17:25 utc | 104 @Republicofscotland Posted by: Woke American | Nov 10 2025 17:42 utc | 105 adding: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 15:12 utc | 93 Posted by: JB | Nov 10 2025 17:44 utc | 106 Palestine Al-Aqsa “Hamas Movement publishes The occupation’s violations of the ceasefire agreement: The obstruction of tent and shelter entry. The Gaza Strip urgently needs 300,000 tents, but less than 5% have been allowed in, leaving hundreds of thousands of displaced people without shelter in the bitter winter cold.” Posted by: Ornot | Nov 10 2025 18:22 utc | 107 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 10 2025 18:25 utc | 108 Journalist Hossam Shabat (Martyred) – “The occupation’s violations of the ceasefire agreement: A complete paralysis due to fuel shortages. Out of 50 trucks daily, the occupation only allowed 38 gas and 92 diesel to enter during the month, which is only 8.4%, causing paralysis of hospitals, bakeries, opening streets, removing rubble, transportation, and a complete power outage.” – “The Government Media Office in Gaza: The Israeli side has committed 282 violations since the start of the agreement, resulting in the martyrdom of 242 citizens and the injury of 620.” Note, latest US draft resolution for Gaza ties “Israeli” withdrawal to Hamas disarmament. Posted by: Ornot | Nov 10 2025 18:41 utc | 109 The Zionists and their terrorist allies will eventually have to attack Iran to break this – watch the short vid. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 18:55 utc | 110 see the 1:50 video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 10 2025 18:56 utc | 111 Doxxed and suspended for opposing Zionism – the West is ran by sick f*cks – watch the short vid. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 19:05 utc | 112 The Zionists will be livid at this – she’ll now be on a hit list – watch the short vid. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 19:14 utc | 113 This plea will fall on deaf ears – Lebanese forces (army) wouldn’t dare fire back at IDF troops – Netanyahu’s Greater Israel dream, will find very little resistance in South Western Lebanon. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 15:43 utc | 97 Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 10 2025 19:29 utc | 114 Live Blog : Day 766 Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 19:35 utc | 115 They don’t even try to hide it anymore. Steve Powers (@StevePowers_): “🚨BREAKING: BBC Middle East News Editor Raffi Berg ADMITS the MOSSAD makes him proud and give him GOOSEBUMPS. REVEALS he is an ADMIRER of Israel and in the CIRCLE OF TRUST with the MOSSAD😲” | nitter.poast.org Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 19:35 utc | 116 Laguerre (118). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 19:40 utc | 117 Is this an Indian false flag event to give an excuse to attack Pakistan. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 19:47 utc | 118 The Zio-Monsters begin building walls inside Lebanon. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 19:50 utc | 119 CJPME Report – The Toll of Intent: Looking At the Geopolitical Impact of Israel’s Assault on Gaza Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 19:52 utc | 120 re: 124 Obviously mis-titled. Should read ‘Genocidal Impact’ not ‘Geopolitical’. Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 19:56 utc | 121 The ex-British ambassador Craig Murray, who was in Lebanon a few months back revealed that the USA pays half of all the Lebanese armies wages – and we know which side the USA supports. Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 10 2025 20:05 utc | 122 The Zio-Monsters begin building walls inside Lebanon. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 19:50 utc | 123 Posted by: lll. | Nov 10 2025 20:18 utc | 123 Posted by: lll. | Nov 10 2025 20:18 utc | 127 Posted by: laguerre | Nov 10 2025 20:21 utc | 124 @ShadowofEzra Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Nov 10 2025 21:29 utc | 125 Live: US Waives Sanctions On Syria After Al-Sharaa Meets With Trump Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 21:39 utc | 126 R2R: Laith Marouf Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 21:42 utc | 127 JF: Prof Seyed Mohammed Marandi Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 21:49 utc | 128 Israel’s Zombie Economy (Part 4) Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 23:00 utc | 129 see the 1:53 video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 10 2025 23:36 utc | 130 Journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: JB | Nov 10 2025 23:43 utc | 131 We can never forget what these animals did to Gaza and West bank. Posted by: dobby | Nov 11 2025 0:05 utc | 132 @135 JB It would seem another US/globalist plan hosted by the UN, the last I read of was regarding Syria if I remember. Sometimes ‘world coup’ comes to mind, other times ‘privatisation of the international assembly’ . Whichever, it is very obviously corrupt. Meanwhile US further endorses, celebrates, and welcomes yet another war criminal, while “Israel” starts passing legislation to allow execution of Palestinian prisoners. Hamas also notes ‘yellow line’ is being redrawn outside of its agreed map, saying the various breaches are an attempt at ruining the ceasefire. It all also appears as a show to sell US oversight and UN empowerment of US plans; so as to control “Israel” . In reality it is designed to fully take over whatever proposed ‘symbolic state’ ever actually recognised by the organisation. Beyond perverse, as you say. It is like some kind of parody. Posted by: Ornot | Nov 11 2025 1:25 utc | 133 Mahmood OD: ‘Solution or Explosion – Rafah fighters: No Surrender’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 11 2025 3:40 utc | 135 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2025 4:01 utc | 136 see the 1:17 video at the first/second link Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2025 4:59 utc | 137 So it seems that the ultimate betrayal will be ushered through the unsc by China and Russia – pushed by the U.S. of course – – it is death for the soul of humanity – no doubt though it will be forgotten as have so many other apocalyptic moments in human history, helped on its way into the oblivion of the shifting news cycle by Trump’s gleaming towers… Posted by: Paul | Nov 11 2025 6:45 utc | 138 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2025 6:47 utc | 139 see the 45-second video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2025 9:03 utc | 140 sorry for all the posts. a busy day Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2025 9:05 utc | 141 https://youtu.be/KQLBq-gC8wQ?si=MjACG-V_0Xi9ea6d Posted by: Hankster | Nov 11 2025 9:42 utc | 142 This doesn’t bode well. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:26 utc | 143 Re my (146) comment. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:28 utc | 144 A two-state solution my arse – in any case it would never have worked Israel must be removed completely for Palestine to flourish. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:29 utc | 145 Says the chief terrorist and headchopper for (HTS) a proscribed terrorist outfit, who is now the president of Syria and adored by Western leaders – I’m sure the thousands of innocent folk he brutally had murdered – that their still living relatives don’t think its in the past – as he proclaims in a Fox news interview. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:33 utc | 146 If ever an illegally occupying force – of squatting settlers needed removed completely its Zionist Israel. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:36 utc | 147 Watch the Zio-Monster/illegal settlers fight among themselves – in their pretendy parliament. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:39 utc | 148 Here the illegally squatting settlers/Zionists in Palestine – in their pretendy parliament celebrate that the settlers/Zionists passed a “Law” in their illegal shibboleth – that they can execute freedom fighters, who are trying to take back their lands from them – the Zionists/illegal squatting settlers call them terrorists. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:45 utc | 149 A piccy to ponder on – two terrorists side by side. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 12:48 utc | 150 The Zio-Monster other foot soldiers need to be removed from Palestine as well. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 13:15 utc | 151 Its now wonder America is utterly f*cked – as GOP law maker Brain Mast, wears his Israeli military uniform to Capitol Hill. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 13:23 utc | 152 More on Mast – as he cavorts with known proscribed terrorist. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 13:25 utc | 153 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 13:15 utc | 154 Posted by: Chas | Nov 11 2025 13:42 utc | 154 The US terrorist state – has been illegally regime changing socialist countries leaders for decades now – many citizens died post regime change, as capitalist US puppets allowed the US terrorist state and its nasty allies – to rob the countries blind of assets – leaving nothing for the people. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 15:51 utc | 155 Chas (157). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 15:53 utc | 156 Way way O/T. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 16:10 utc | 157 Laguerre (125). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 16:26 utc | 158 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 11 2025 16:39 utc | 159 Ornot, thx for your informative response, Ramos focusses on his area of ‘expertise’, it should be widened. Yes. Posted by: Noirette | Nov 11 2025 16:59 utc | 160 “For the first time in a generation, there’s a genuine sense of hope and optimism, not just in Israel, but across the Middle East,” Gabbard added. “That’s because of President Trump’s leadership and the groundwork he laid through his historic peace deal.” Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2025 19:15 utc | 162 Ok, so Jared Kushner is now making all the decisions about the Gaza Strip. He is a slum-lord chisler who by rights should be rolling back odometers in Bumfuck, Arkansas. But the world is not just.
And the US is preparing to spend $500 million for a temporary base adjacent to (not IN, as they carefully point out) Gaza. I’ve never seen a “temporary” US base; the US hangs around everyone’s personal space like ticks on a dog once they get in somewhere. We don’t have money for food stamps, but half a billion for a temporary base is easy. This article says that the base will house several thousand troops, but other articles say that the US will be housing at least 10,000 troops from multiple nations.
Posted by: teri | Nov 11 2025 19:50 utc | 163 Syria has agreed to join the U.S.-led coalition to tackle the ISIS terrorist group following a meeting between President Ahmed al-Sharaa and U.S. President Donald Trump on Nov. 10, according to a Syrian official. Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 11 2025 20:14 utc | 164 Thanks normalwisdom, michael72, Ornot, repoblicsofscotland, JB ( always), Laguerre. Posted by: stranger | Nov 11 2025 20:49 utc | 165 ‘Thanks normalwisdom, michael72, Ornot, repoblicsofscotland, JB ( always), Laguerre.The question is not complicated. Who will act against the genocide? Respect the UN laws, which they all claim to uphold.It seems noone, including the socalled BRICS alternative. Russia has outed itself as just another bitch.The red light should be ‘Pollycentric’, thus they just want to divide the world of ours into the interested zones, obviously RF has agreed with faltering USA to split Middle East, and Euurope. This probably began even before silly Trump was elected, thus the treason of Syrya.Russians want to be with Usains, to share in the spoils. The treason of resistance and Syrya, It is perfectly clear.They are working toghether’ Posted by: stranger | Nov 11 2025 20:56 utc | 166 Unless John Gilberts has already posted,thank you … Posted by: stranger | Nov 11 2025 21:05 utc | 167 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2025 21:58 utc | 168 On Judge Napolitano today with Jeffery Sachs big zoggie plans on putting a military base in Gaza. Posted by: dobby | Nov 11 2025 21:59 utc | 169 see the first post, in response to the second by another raging lunatic-zionist Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 11 2025 22:36 utc | 171 michaelj72@144: “sorry for all the posts, a busy day” Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 11 2025 22:57 utc | 172 Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 11 2025 22:57 utc | 175 Posted by: dobby | Nov 11 2025 23:08 utc | 173 You have to remember all wars are banker wars and are genocidal wars. We have a new sherriff in town, the bloated pimp and his master, Kushner. This devious self claimed semite who looks white as milk is going to dictate the future of Gaza. The whole system is f’kd unless we find a loophole. Everyone here think of that loophole. Everyone makes mistakes even these monsters. Posted by: dobby | Nov 11 2025 23:42 utc | 174 DW: Mohammad Marandi Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 12 2025 0:04 utc | 175 OTLM: Samira Mohyeddin: ‘Cut & Cry-Baby’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 12 2025 2:05 utc | 176 see the 45-second video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 12 2025 2:12 utc | 177 Drop Site News: Palestine SitRep Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 12 2025 2:56 utc | 178 Do we blame every American or European on their monstrosity? Name changers and white as ghosts calling themselves semites. The little nation of non semites calling themselves semites are a f’kn joke. Get smart people! Posted by: dobby | Nov 12 2025 3:07 utc | 179 GU: Dr Nick Maynard, Volunteer Surgeon at Gaza’s Nasser Hospital Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 12 2025 3:51 utc | 180 see the photo at the first link. The partition plan for Gaza; the israeli-jews are nazi-fascists Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 12 2025 4:32 utc | 181 Syriana Analysis: Why Trump Just Exposed Syria’s Most Dangerous Man Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 12 2025 4:46 utc | 182 @163 Noirette The objection, as on many political topics, is enmeshed in a wider sociopolitical fabric that is often contradictory. For example, objection is quite common from the further right on ‘traditional society’ grounds (not racism per se), and yet political elements representing further right are largely nowadays more hawkish and MIC orientated (i.e. are part responsible for causing migration waves). Equally, those on the liberal left, although tending towards promoting human or local rights, have incorporated open borders and common subsidy view that both facilitates migrations as well as obviating traditional barriers to involvement in local economy and social realities in other countries (often being used for or leading to overthrow, attempted westernisation, and other forms of imposed patronisation). So in western society we have these conflicting realities, ground level ideals vs political manipulation, being used to divide society. It is rare to see an objective inclusive discussion or debate that moves beyond whatever sensational reality of the moment it is initiated by. Obviously most main media presentation has its particular agenda that is not interested in addressing these topics seriously, but instead aims to confuse or cause polarity. Similar divides at profit from migration exist in society also. From politically active liberal looking to undermine opponent ‘entrenched’ hierarchy through to a part of more traditional society being in a relatively privileged position (i.e. they are not the one’s who are going to now have to do the work, even if they have worked hard previously and believe locals should carry that ethic). Those I sympathise with most are the younger middle/lower ‘class’ who do not find a viable direction no matter how much effort they make, where they are competing only to reach the level of migrant workers, or foreign manpower in countries where related costs are a fraction of in the west (due to government involvement in economy and prices in the west). So there are many divides and society in western nations cannot form a valid political reply due to its contradictions. I agree that modern migration levels as a whole cost the countries/society from which migrants originate. It is a very mixed reality. It is hard to say how any country would be without this reality also. For example, a single migrants might support an extended family with their foreign minimum wage, so how it is that a country is not self sufficient enough to provide that opportunity to locals is worth looking at, the reasoning would be complex (and usually includes foreign involvements). That is not even counting foreign sponsored wars that cause migration. For skilled migration, that varies also. There is a trend to foreign education which results in some permanent migration also, but the exchange is probably more positive. On the other hand, purposefully emptying other countries of skilled workers is also a reality that occurs, and it is not just by offering competitive opportunity, but instead uses various underhand (i.e. at public expense) methods to secure workers. One thing I will disagree with though is : “Plus, one of the reasons that in the US, GB (and elsewhere) many immigrants are afforded conditions that seem completely nuts to ppl on the ground, such as free housing, med care, whatever. They are an investment, a ‘new’ slav(ish) labor force, an outcome of long term planning.” I have read very detailed studies on cost, and future redemption of costs, based on decades of real data, and this does not add up (and I don’t have links to those, apology). Again, here we are met with the contradictions that divide western nations. For example, ‘common society’ in the west has aimed to climb the (partly imposed) ladder of social standing. I don’t mean becoming posh or rich, but of attaining higher skills (education) and position (white collar vs blue) . Wealth does go with that (often inversely in fact, due to exploitation of the ambition, i.e. student debt). Many therefore shun more mundane work, which now often does not pay at all anyway (especially in comparison to earlier economy) due to both migrant and foreign competition. What is anyone to make of being in such a circumstance ? Also, a certain part of western society is now asset rich, meaning that their wealth is boosted by competition (say over housing from migration), and yet they still think to be holders of traditional values, a successful evolution of western achievement, and that others of their own should now go out and do the hard work , while never realising that a large portion of their own wealth has been and still is, subsidised by foreign effort and contribution. These are circles that don’t square, and those that manage and profit from this reality have no intention of resolving the differences, instead the direction is to transform the whole over time into a different (global) paradigm, which of course they would command and profit from. So it is long term planning, but the slavish labour force includes much of western society also. It is not meant to be back to workhouses either, it is to place ownership (hence authority) in the hands of a few. Via dependency on government subsidy, via endebtedness, via disruption of independent local society, via destructuring of local identity, via corruption of individual moral and ethic. When you think this is managed across continents, that large wars, decades long media saturation, occur to tailor these realities, then you might understand the kind of organisation you are dealing with. It is anything but stupid or incompetent. In reality, a large part of the west considers it progress, modernity, and achievement, without ever bothering to question why they are offered such an inflated self opinion to wear. What is occuring in Palestine is so symbolic of how these different realities coincide albeit also at different and more severe levels, that I thought it fair to reply here. You started me writing on all of this Noirette … if you reply to this it is fine but not to expect me to write more … Posted by: Ornot | Nov 12 2025 4:56 utc | 183 RepublicofScotland 148 Posted by: Giyane | Nov 12 2025 5:51 utc | 184 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 12 2025 8:57 utc | 185 Leaked: How British Intel Infiltrates Lebanon Posted by: laguerre | Nov 12 2025 9:35 utc | 186 @ exile | Nov 12 2025 11:08 utc | 190 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 12 2025 11:51 utc | 188 Posted by: Ornot | Nov 12 2025 4:56 utc | 186 Posted by: Noirette | Nov 12 2025 13:18 utc | 189 There’s no ceasefire – that nonsense was spread by the whores in the media, to trick the masses into thinking there was one. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 13:59 utc | 190 The bottom line is – the Zio-Monsters need to be stopped one way or another. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:01 utc | 191 Not a patch on China’s – maybe they should stick to creating advanced weapons – they seem to be good at that. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:03 utc | 192 This was a major story on the BBC, simply because it shows something Chinese in a bad light. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:05 utc | 193 Cloud seeding in secret – by one of Iran’s neighbours on behalf of the USA/England/Israel. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:08 utc | 194 Streeting is a mad Zionist capitalist, swapping him for Starmer – would make very little difference – if it does happen its a ruse to fool the public into thinking that Labour are now electable when they are not. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:11 utc | 195 This comes off the back of the English governments propaganda machine, the BBC, doctoring a Trump speech to make him look bad – the Orange Zionist POTUS – is now suing the BBC for $1 billion dollars – one can only hope Trump decides to bomb the shit out the BBC and the English government. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:16 utc | 196 This is probably the first time (in recent times) that the Lebanese army has defied the Zio-Monsters. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:19 utc | 197 The Black Sun flag is associated with Nazism. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 14:20 utc | 198 Posted by: Delhiliterally | Nov 12 2025 15:44 utc | 199 “I’d be very surprised if the Americans, and in consequence the Brits, bothered to understand how Lebanon works. But they’re just trying to oblige the government to impose itself by force – an anti-democratic government which is only there because of the bizarre constitution, and a voluntary agreement by Hizbullah to withdraw from participation. If a democratic election were held, Hizbullah would be the government. It is difficult for the US and UK to get round that basic fact.” “The Parliament has just voted and elected General Joseph Aoun. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 16:04 utc | 200 |
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