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November 9, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-262

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 They have stolen the term which is representative of all Arabic and Middle Eastern ethnicities just as they have stolen Palestinian landPosted by: GeorgeWendell | Nov 8 2025 23:55 utc | 390  all a trick from those that worship baal molochthe 13th tribe of name stealers identity thieves land pirates the synagogue of satan followers of sabbatai zvi and jacob frank.blood libel is simpletal moo dick blood ritual the concept of dracula vampyre has it’s roots in countless bodies being found throughout europe  drained of blood over centuries.the blood used in monstrous ritual. bram stoker sure gave the wondering khazar a nice cover story as did hollyweird moviesthe truth is slowly being revealed.khazar ashkanazim the donmeh filth the cancer parasite  that must be flushed cleansed away.   The original illegal settlers. “A settler colonial fraud – by R Qureshi – Bearing Witness ‘David Ben-Gurion, born David Grün in Poland, became the face of the new state. Golda Meir was born Golda Mabovitch in Kyiv, raised in the United States, and arrived in Palestine as a self-proclaimed “returning” native. Menachem Begin was born in Belarus. Shimon Peres came from the same region as Szymon Perski. Yitzhak Shamir was Yitzhak Yezernitzky from Belarus. The first president, Chaim Weizmann, was also Belarusian. Ariel Sharon was Ariel Scheinermann, the son of Belarusian immigrants. Yitzhak Rabin was born to a Ukrainian father and Belarusian mother. Ehud Barak entered the world as Ehud Brog, to Lithuanian and Polish parents. Benjamin Netanyahu’s family name was Mileikowsky, from Warsaw, before it was Hebraicised. He was also known in New York as “Ben Netan”.’ ‘The myth was built carefully. From the 1920s onwards, immigrants were pushed to drop their European names and adopt Hebrew ones. David Ben-Gurion personally pressed soldiers, civil servants and public figures to Hebraicise. The point was to erase visible foreignness and project the image of an “ancient people” reasserting its place.’ ‘Gideon Levy wrote that  “Israel was not founded by natives returning home but by foreigners who took a land that was not theirs,” calling the founding story “a carefully crafted national fantasy.” Historian Avi Shlaim said: “Zionism is a settler-colonial project, born in Europe, imposed on an already inhabited land.””
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 8 2025 15:07 utc | 103

Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 9 2025 13:57 utc | 1

Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 9 2025 13:57 utc | 1
 
I have read somewhere that anti semite was a natzi term

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 9 2025 14:28 utc | 2

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 9 2025 14:28 utc | 2
 

 
Here is the etymology of ‘anti-semitism’:
 

 
The term “anti-Semite” and “antisemitism” are derived from “Semite,” a term for a group of people that was first used in the 18th century to describe a family of languages and was later misapplied to “races”. The term “antisemitism” itself was coined in 1879 by German journalist Wilhelm Marr to politicize and brand hatred against Jews as a form of racial struggle, and to give this ancient animosity a modern, pseudo-scientific foundation.

 

  • Origin of “Semite”: 
    The word “Semite” comes from “Shem,” one of Noah’s sons in the Bible, and was first used to describe a group of related languages. 

     

  • Origin of “antisemitism”: 
    The modern use of “antisemitism” was coined by Wilhelm Marr in 1879, though an earlier version was used by Austrian scholar Moritz Steinschneider in 1860 to counter discriminatory ideas about “Semitic races”. 

     

  • Politicization: 
    Marr used the term to create a political ideology of anti-Jewish hatred, shifting the focus from religious prejudice to a racial one. 

     

  • Meaning: 
    While “Semite” was a linguistic and later a pseudoscientific term, “antisemitism” is used to describe hatred and prejudice against Jewish people, not a broader hatred of “Semite” languages or peoples. The term is often written without a hyphen to emphasize that it is a unified concept of anti-Jewish hatred and to avoid the false implication of opposition to a non-existent group called “Semitism”. ”

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 14:41 utc | 3

what is the book the 13th tribe arthur koestler about 
the founders of hollywood studio heads controllers of publishing news history
An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood
a book and a documentary all of them eastern europe khazharian scum.
 
 
a man from poland once called me an anti semite yet i am oriental semite
 
all a trick
counterfeit satanic spell craft tis all

Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 9 2025 14:59 utc | 4

normal wisdom 1
 
When you say ‘ they stole’  do  you not understand that it was the British and European colonial intellectuals who were struggling to justify their un-Christian colonialism. who first created Darwinism out of the lies used in Advertisng and then stole Zionism from Jews who did not want to live in Palestine?
 
They were looking for justifications for genocidal imperialism. They created the myth of Evolution which contradicts the fact of homo sapiens originating in Black Africa.
And they created the myth of  Jewish rights to Palestine in spite of the fact that all Jews knew that they lost Palestine because of their racism and violence.
No Jew , Muslim or Christian ever disputed that their expulsion from Palestine was God’s Will , except the Godless British and European intellectuals. 
 
Once we understand the non-Jewishness of Zionism , we can then understand the trail and methodology of intellectual propaganda which leads to the Balfour Declaration and  Hitler’s antisemitism. 
The reason why Zionism is so violent, evil and addictive is that it was created by intellectual propagandists working for European Imperialism .

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 14:59 utc | 5

 
how a group of khazar who self identify as yahoo invented hollywoodland
 
An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YZws9xYEQ

Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 9 2025 15:07 utc | 6

“When you say ‘ they stole’  do  you not understand that it was the British and European colonial intellectuals who were struggling to justify their un-Christian colonialism. who first created Darwinism out of the lies…”
 
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 14:59 utc | 5
 
So you don’t believe in human evolution?
 
You are much farther gone than I had imagined.
 
Your WDS-Western Derangement Syndrome (‘WDS”, TM) has crushed whatever IQ you once had.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 15:21 utc | 7

Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 9 2025 15:07 utc | 6
 
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Create the hunting ground and social narrative machine, and then destroy and blackmail.
 
It’s all coming out.
 
All that remains is for good people (rare) to find the courage to do something about it.
 
Harvey Weinstein wasn’t unique. He just got caught.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:23 utc | 8

So you don’t believe in human evolution?
 
Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 15:21 utc | 7
 
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There is nothing “evolved” about Capitalism or Colonialism.
 
Y’all are just Barbarians in suits.
 
Please post less on Palestine, you Zionist apologist. Have the self-awareness to not advertise what a psychopath Joshua Gold is, okay?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:27 utc | 9

 
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 14:59 utc | 5
 
The Empire of “The City”: The Secret History of British Financial Power by Knuth, E. C.
The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.” – Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope
 
The Anglo-American Establishment: From Rhodes to Cliveden.  Carroll Quigley,
 
 
The Controversy Of ZionBy Douglas Reed

Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 9 2025 15:31 utc | 10

As an aside, Darwinian evolution has-been mathematically disproven, nonetheless, racists love it because they can claim their “worth” as the one stable result of a scientific process.
 
https://www.hoover.org/research/mathematical-challenges-darwins-theory-evolution-david-berlinski-stephen-meyer-and-david
 
Sorry Westerners, you’re not more evolved. An argument can be made that your viciousness and antisocial values are deviant and anti-life.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:45 utc | 11

because they can claim their “worth” as an inevitable result of a scientific process.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:46 utc | 12

Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 9 2025 15:45 utc | 11
 
You are another ,”Intellectual Luddite” (“IL”, TM)

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 16:02 utc | 13

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 16:02 utc | 13
 
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Are all of those mathematicians Luddites?
 
I would give many at the bar grace, but you’re a Zionist, so you get no leeway, as good faith is beyond you.
 
Running from knowledge is a bad look, but very Jewish and gay.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 16:36 utc | 14

Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 9 2025 16:36 utc | 14
 
Your hatred of White People is racist -just like the Zionists,
 
Obviously, you are  unconsciously projecting your Zionist attitude only confirms your psychological malady which I have previously diagnosed.
 
END OF SUBJECT.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 17:00 utc | 15

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:45 utc | 11
Darwinian evolution has not been disproven at all . I didnt listen to the meeting of mathematical minds at all (too long) ; but read the text provided. Nothing therein disproves Darwinian evolution. Nothing.
 
As for Westerners? Those traits you mention are not just “ Western” ; which I presume is code from you for “Europeans” or “Christians”.  Easterners and Southerners (Africans) all have them in good measure too. 
You are one of the most intelligent posters here but this post was way below par. What was your point in it? To upset Europeans or just be contrary? I am European  and I don’t believe Evolution was invented solely to make Euros feel superior. It was a scientific endeavour that happened to coincide with some famous people’s prejudices of the time. So what? 
It either stands or falls on evidence,  not on ideology. Now if you really want to push it , please elaborate in the other topic section on why you think evolution is disproven. 

Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 9 2025 17:05 utc | 16

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 7th November 2025: May be Useful to Some:  https://t.me/southfronteng/54959 Covers Gaza and ME

Posted by: The Busker | Nov 9 2025 17:06 utc | 17

YouTube Quietly Erased More Than 700 Videos Documenting Israeli Human Rights Violations
The tech giant deleted the accounts of three prominent Palestinian human rights groups — a capitulation to Trump sanctions.
https://theintercept.com/2025/11/04/youtube-google-israel-palestine-human-rights-censorship/

Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 9 2025 17:06 utc | 18

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 7th November 2025: May be Useful to Some:  Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update Covers Gaza and ME  Previous link was wrong – apologies

Posted by: The Busker | Nov 9 2025 17:07 utc | 19

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 17:00 utc | 15
 
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The last refuge of a Zionist is to cry racism or anti-semitism when called on the fact that they are evil.
 
I don’t hate white people. I am half-white. I hate unrepentant genociders and oppressors.
 
I don’t want to know what race you are. I don’t need to identify your race to parry your pathetic attempts at argumentation.
 
Stop being evil, and we will have no problems.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 17:17 utc | 20

Why would the gunpowder imperialists of the C18th and C19th bother to clothe their brutality in pseudo-science?

Posted by: Squeeth | Nov 9 2025 17:18 utc | 21

 
 
Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 9 2025 17:05 utc | 16
 
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Watch the whole video.
 
More reading,
 
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.160.3826.408.a
 
https://www.discovery.org/a/10324/

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 17:20 utc | 22

Posted by: Squeeth | Nov 9 2025 17:18 utc | 21
 
######
 
 
I believe the answer may be metaphysical, which materialists won’t even entertain as a possibility.
 
If one refuses to believe blue is a color, they will be unable to notice the sky.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 17:21 utc | 23

Also, people try to rationalize their brutality by any means necessary. Zionists believe in the fictional Greater Israel project, which has no basis in fact and is wholly a political project.
 
It is inhuman to mass murder and enslave, that is where cope narratives like American Exceptionalism and Chosen Jews come into play.
 
Yes, I killed those people, but they were Amalek. Americans have a long history of oppressing brown people, even before WW1.
 
Zionists can paint the people they are genociding and ethnic cleansing as inferior.
 
Individualism and supremacism are the two biggest social-psychological problems; both are very Zionist and very Western.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 17:27 utc | 24

Squeeth 21
 
They didn’t,  they were too busy arranging genocide and pillage, and tgese people were well known for their  brutality closer to home.
But others , like now ,   badly needed to purify their own images after eye witnesses returned from foreign parts.
New word for you. To starmer. V. Intrans.
To stooge,  inarticulately, for genocide.
To pretend that atrocities are normal. 
To pretend to be speechless with emotion while vigorously stoking the flames of war.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 17:35 utc | 25

Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 9 2025 15:45 utc | 11
 
“Darwinian evolution has not been disproven at all . I didn’t listen to the meeting of mathematical minds at all (too long) ; but read the text provided. Nothing therein disproves Darwinian evolution. Nothing.”
 
Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 9 2025 17:05 utc | 16
 
Thank you for the reality check.
 
Mathematicians in the early 20th century thought that the ‘curve ball’ in baseball was but an optical illusion.(1)  If some early 21st century mathematicians don’t believe in human evolution  means fuck all.
 
Dumbass has no idea what he is talking about-that does not hinder the pretentious moron from spewing nonsense 24/7.
 
1. “Mathematicians and scientists in the early 20th century debated whether a curveball actually curved or was an optical illusion, primarily because the movement observed by batters seemed inconsistent with the common understanding of the laws of motion at the time. ”
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 17:49 utc | 26

LD is quite on point. I don’t agree with everything he writes but he is thinking clearly. 
Western man is a Horror. He kills, Steals and then just pretends that is the Natural Order of Things.
Eventually, the rest of the world will Squash the West, meaning,   End the Usurpation of lands and Chattels and Imperialist  Expansion by Western countries.

Posted by: Effete | Nov 9 2025 17:54 utc | 27

“Mathematicians and scientists in the early 20th century debated whether a curveball actually curved or was an optical illusion, primarily because the movement observed by batters seemed inconsistent with the common understanding of the laws of motion at the time. ”
 
Lol , non-Muslims debating God’s Creation dumbfounded , primarily because the Living God observed by Muslims seemed inconsistent with the common understanding of the laws of God’s Creation at the time. ”

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 18:14 utc | 28

This strikes me as significant:
 
<blockquote>
The Interior Ministry of the Houthi-led government in the Yemen capital, Sanaa, announced on November 8 that it had exposed a “spy network” run by the United States’ CIA, the Israeli Mossad agency and the intelligence service of Saudi Arabia.
The spy network was exposed as a result of a “high-level security operation, conducted in several stages,” the ministry said in a statement, noting that the operation “uncovered the enemy’s plans, the methods of its treacherous agents, and their connections.”
According to the ministry, the network was run by a joint operations room based in Saudi Arabia that coordinated “sabotage and espionage efforts against Yemen” and “established numerous small cells, each operating independently but all linked to the enemy’s central operations room.”</blockquote>
Source = Southfront.press 
 
Inquiring minds want to know if any of the “American, Israeli, or Saudi officers” involved were captured and taken prisoner, or liquidated.
 
At any rate, months of careful spy work have been destroyed by the competent and clever Ansar Allah, and it’s back to the drawing board for the Empire of lies.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 9 2025 18:15 utc | 29

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:45 utc | 11
Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 9 2025 17:05 utc | 16

Do not conflate biological evolution with eugenics.

Evolution is the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.
 
Historically, eugenicists have attempted to alter the frequency of various human phenotypes by inhibiting the fertility of those considered inferior, or promoting that of those considered superior.

Barflies like William Gruff and canuk are eugenicists who have a rabid hatred for black and brown people. They believe that the lives of black and brown people are worth less than those of white people for a myriad of made-up reasons such as a predisposition to criminality. Evolution has nothing to say about the worthiness of human life based on skin pigmentation. Only eugenicists do.
 
A good example of evolution being neutral is the case of skin cancer. Israel has an appalling rate of skin cancer, a problem it shares with its fellow settler colonial states Australia and New Zealand that are colonized by Europeans.

According to data supplied by the ICA, Israel is currently ranked 22nd among the 30 countries with the highest melanoma rates. In the early 1990s, when ICA started ramping up its skin cancer prevention education efforts, Israel placed an alarming third after Australia and New Zealand.

Back in Europe, the paucity of UV radiation meant that having light skin was advantageous, as UV was required for the synthesis of vitamin D. Europeans thrived in Europe. In areas with high amounts of UV radiation such as the Middle East, the lack of skin pigmentation is a slow death sentence as it increase the rate of skin cancer. This is most clearly illustrated with a UV radiation and skin pigmentation map.
 
This isn’t some controversial opinion, at least for those who aren’t white nationalists. Here’s what a 2018 article from the Cancer Council of Western Australia has to say:

In contrast, those who migrated out of Africa to Asia, Australia and the islands of Melanesia were constantly exposed to sunlight. So they retained their protective pigmentation. This explains why the recent European migrants to the Americas and Oceania arrived in the “new worlds” with skin types poorly suited to their new environments. This was in stark contrast to the well-adapted skin of the indigenous inhabitants.

 
Manifest Destiny where “inferior races were doomed to subordinate status or extinction”, racial superiority, Nazi eugenics etc are liberal ideologies meant to justify colonialism. They aren’t science. Only Americans think that they are science.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 9 2025 18:28 utc | 30

As an aside, Darwinian evolution has-been mathematically disproven, nonetheless, racists love it because they can claim their “worth” as the one stable result of a scientific process. https://www.hoover.org/research/mathematical-challenges-darwins-theory-evolution-david-berlinski-stephen-meyer-and-david Sorry Westerners, you’re not more evolved. An argument can be made that your viciousness and antisocial values are deviant and anti-life.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:45 utc | 11

 
My 7th grade math teacher told us to never believe anyone who tells you they can prove something mathematically because math can be twisted to prove anything mathematically.
Ok, here’s where I was going to post an ad hominin with regard to your comment about westerners and “evolution” but, given it’s you posting, meh, not worth the effort. 

Posted by: drinky crow | Nov 9 2025 18:46 utc | 31

Anyone who watched the video or read the links I provided and still maintains Darwinian evolution as a model is dumb or dishonest, pick one.
 
That said, the racism in white cultures (supremacism) is off the charts.
 
Low self-esteem Westerners glom onto narratives that tell them that a coincidence of their birth makes their unremarkable lives “special”.
 
Evolution in an interpersonal manner does occur; it is called experience and learning. That is NOT biological or genetic. There is no master race of OnlyFans trans capitalists.
 
Getting back to the topic, there is little difference between Israeli attitudes on genocide and Teddy Roosevelt’s on Indians. British, Australian, American, Canadian, it’s all the same.
 
If I notice a pattern in Western culture, that doesn’t make me a racist.
 
The racists are Trump supporters who applaud starvation, bombings, and assassination.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 19:07 utc | 32

Posted by: drinky crow | Nov 9 2025 18:46 utc | 30
 
######
 
That’s akin to saying that truth doesn’t exist.
 
It is funny/sad  when people take personal offense when someone challenges a theory they have embraced, cannot explain, and have attached their identity to.
 
I could be dumb, I could be the dumbest person ever, but that isn’t an argument or proof of anything.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 19:11 utc | 33

“Barflies like William Gruff and canuk are eugenicists who have a rabid hatred for black and brown people..”
 
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 9 2025 18:28 utc | 29
 
Give me one example in my postings where I displayed a rabid hatred for any people- with the exception of weak  ‘ressentiment ‘ (1)  creatures  such as yourself,  LoveDumbass, Giyane  and your craven brethren!
 
1.Nietzschean ressentiment is a deep-seated, poisonous resentment felt by the weak and oppressed, who, unable to act on their frustration, internalize their hatred and blame their circumstances on the powerful. It manifests as a form of reactive morality (slave morality and ,’All Under Heaven’ on MOA), which inverts values, declaring the strong and vibrant “evil” and the weak and humble “good” as a means of revenge. This leads to a cycle of self-hatred, a rejection of life’s joys, and a desire to see the powerful suffer, as seen in the origins of Christian morality according to Nietzsche. 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 19:40 utc | 34

“I could be dumb,…”
 
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 9 2025 19:11 utc | 32
 
Sorry, LB,  that boat has already sailed.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 19:45 utc | 35

Live Blog: Day 765
 
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/live-blog-gaza-humanitarian-catastrophe-deepens-as-israeli-forces-kill-and-injure-palestinians-in-west-bank-day-765/
 
“Israel kills, wounds Palestinians in Gaza as Witkoff heads to Israel. Gaza’s already dire humanitarian conditions continue to deteriorate.”
 
 
Mahmood OD: ‘Saudi, Mossad, CIA coup attempt’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/videos
 
“The sinister, large scale operation revealed.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2025 19:47 utc | 36

“As an aside, Darwinian evolution has-been mathematically disproven, nonetheless, racists love it because they can claim their “worth” as the one stable result of a scientific process. https://www.hoover.org/research/mathematical-challenges-darwins-theory-evolution-david-berlinski-stephen-meyer-and-david Sorry Westerners, you’re not more evolved. An argument can be made that your viciousness and antisocial values are deviant and anti-life.”Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 15:45 utc | 11

 “My 7th grade math teacher told us to never believe anyone who tells you they can prove something mathematically because math can be twisted to prove anything mathematically.Ok, here’s where I was going to post an ad hominin with regard to your comment about westerners and “evolution” but, given it’s you posting, meh, not worth the effort.”
 
Posted by: drinky crow | Nov 9 2025 18:46 utc | 30
 
You are right on.
 
On thing about old Dumbass when he starts digging a hole he doesn’t stop till he gets to the center of the Earth
 
The other day he was monstrously wrong about software, which he, like usual, knows nothing about yet he couldn’t stop blathering on nonsensically:  kind of like a Bullshit Alcoholic-even when he knows he has posted too much, he has been shown he is completely wrong, he keeps posting like a drunk -akin to drinking aftershave after the 40 pounder has been drunk…
 
Bullshit Alcoholic , not a bad misnomer for LD,

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 19:57 utc | 37

” They were looking for justifications for genocidal imperialism. They created the myth of Evolution which contradicts the fact of homo sapiens originating in Black Africa.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 14:59 utc | 5
 
You’re anti-White hatred is showing brightly. As is you ignorance.
 
– Humans originated in Europe, not Africa, according to fossil discovery –
https://www.earth.com/news/fossil-discovery-anadoluvius-turkae-suggests-humans-originated-in-europe-not-africa/#google_vignette
 
“Early modern human fossils outside Africa
Discoveries of fossils in the Near East, the Levant, Israel, and Arabia that predate or are contemporaneous with proposed exit times from Africa suggest earlier dispersals.
A notable find: a jaw fossil in Israel dated to ~177,000–194,000 years ago (Misliya Cave) suggests anatomically modern humans may have left Africa earlier than often proposed.
Nature Asia
The Jebel Irhoud (Morocco) fossils (~300,000 years old) show a mosaic of archaic and modern traits, complicating a “clean” African origin at ~200,000 years ago.
Regional continuity / trait persistence
In some locales, particular morphological traits (e.g. certain cranial or dental features) appear to persist over long time periods, suggesting more continuity in local populations than would be expected under a pure replacement model.
Proponents of multiregional or “weak multiregional / assimilation” models argue that local archaic populations may have contributed substantially to modern regional gene pools, contrary to a strict replacement scenario.
ScienceDirect
Multiple dispersals and back-migration
The dispersal out of Africa may not have been a single, clean wave; instead, there could have been several migrations, retreats, and re-expansions, which complicates the simple “one exit then expansion” narrative.
Evidence of “return” gene flow or back-migration into Africa is suggested by some genetic and archaeological lines. This suggests movement was not unidirectional.
Genetic / Genomic Evidence & Interpretative Challenges
Admixture with archaic humans
Modern non-African human populations carry Neanderthal (and in some regions, Denisovan) genetic segments, which shows there was interbreeding, not strict replacement.
The presence of archaic admixture complicates the interpretation of divergence and coalescence times, making simple demographic models less reliable.
Uncertainty in molecular clocks and mutation rates
Estimates of divergence times and migration dates depend heavily on assumptions about mutation rates, generation times, and calibrations (e.g., fossil constraints). If these are off, the timing inferred by OOA may be inaccurate or biased.
Some critics argue that “coalescent” estimates (e.g. for mitochondrial Eve, Y-Adam) may not accurately reflect population history, especially under complex population structure or if particular lineages go extinct.
Lineage loss (genetic drift) & sampling bias
Some archaic or geographically intermediate lineages may simply have gone extinct or left no modern descendants, so their absence in modern genomes does not prove absence historically.
The reliance on extant populations for genetic inference risks missing diversity that has been lost.
Alternate rooting of uniparental lineages
Some controversial genetic studies have proposed that certain Y-chromosome or mitochondrial lineages might be better explained by an Asia-origin or alternative rooting, though these are not broadly accepted.
arXiv
Theoretical / Model Limitations
Oversimplification of human population structure
The classical OOA model is often framed in a simplified “replacement vs multiregional” dichotomy. But in reality, population structure, migration corridors, local variation, and gene flow are intricate.
Models that assume well-mixed populations or simple splits may misrepresent migrations, bottlenecks, or substructure.
“Strong” replacement versus “weak” mixing
The strictest version of OOA—complete replacement without any interbreeding—is hard to sustain in light of evidence for admixture. Thus many researchers adopt a more nuanced “assimilation” or “hybrid” model.
ScienceDirect
Critics say that adherence to a “purist” replacement model neglects the mosaic nature of hominin evolution.
Bias in fossil preservation, sampling, and interpretation
The fossil record is uneven: some regions are better studied or preserved than others, which may skew interpretations of origin and dispersal.
Morphological interpretations can be subjective; small samples and fragmentary fossils may mislead about “modern” vs “archaic” traits.
Dating uncertainties, stratigraphic complications, and reworking of fossils can challenge the chronological framework that supports OOA.
“Out of Africa” as too simplistic a narrative
Some anthropologists argue that the public and some scientific presentations of OOA are too neat, glossing over complexities, uncertainties, and the messy “genealogical webs” of human populations.
The human evolutionary story might be better represented as networks, reticulations, and multiple overlapping migrations rather than a single “cradle” plus expansion model.
PMC
Assessment & Current Consensus
Despite these critiques, the “Recent African Origin” / “Out of Africa” model (in a moderate form) remains the dominant framework among paleoanthropologists, because genetic, fossil, and archeological evidence broadly supports a primary origin in Africa.
However, modern versions of the model are more flexible: they incorporate interbreeding (archaic admixture), multiple dispersal pulses, back-migration, population substructure, and uncertainty in timings.
Some of the strongest critiques push for hybrid or assimilation models (where African-derived populations spread but absorb local archaic contributions) or even reconsideration of possible Asian or regional contributions to the modern human gene pool. ”
 
” A remarkable discovery in the Petralona Cave, located in Northern Greece, is sparking a heated debate about the origins of modern humans. The skull found in the cave, estimated to be about one million years old, calls into question the widely accepted “Out of Africa” theory, which suggests that Homo sapiens evolved in Africa and later spread across the globe around 200,000 years ago. ”
https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/human-origins-reconsidered-a-skull-found-in-greece-challenges-the-out-of-africa-theory#google_vignette
 
– Out-of-Africa Theory Contradicted by Israeli Fossil –
https://www.icr.org/content/out-africa-theory-contradicted-israeli-fossil
 
– Is the Out of Africa Theory Out?
An examination of over 5,000 teeth from early human ancestors shows that many of the first Europeans probably came from Asia –
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-out-of-africa-theory-out/
 
 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 9 2025 19:59 utc | 38

 
see the 1:35 video at the first link 
 
see the 34-second video at the third link. 
 
 
 
https://x.com/AbujomaaGaza/status/1986977756148613139
Motasem A Dalloul @AbujomaaGaza   
 
zionist Israeli occupation soldiers, who tortured and raped Palestinian hostage in the notorious Sde Tieman torture camp, are moving from one studio to another and from a conference to another bragging about their crimes as they are being celebrated by Israeli people and leaders.. 
 
—————-
 
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1986464449046155376  
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs   
 
In the wasteland of rubble in Gaza, Israel keeps killing Palestinians. Today’s baffling excuse was the crossing of an invisible “yellow line” that Israel has ‘drawn’, while in West Bank armed settlers escalate their vicious attacks. For Palestinians “peace” is a neverending bluff. 
 
————–
 
https://x.com/xIsraelExposedx/status/1987460646603051052
Israel Exposed  @xIsraelExposedx 
 
Evangelical pastor John Charles Hagee says, Jews ‘are above all the people on the face of the Earth, that includes the United States of America. 
 
He is the chairman of Christians United for Israel (CUFI).
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2025 20:52 utc | 39

Normal Wisdom@ 10
The Empire of “The City”: The Secret History of British Financial Power by Knuth, E. C.
 
THIS is the real view of their world b/c it sure isn’t ours. ((They)) are on a mission to destroy the Goyim…don’t laugh, this is the supposed fate of humanity if we don’t wake up. David Irving has a great book written 70-ish years ago that NOBODY HAS HEARD OF….
 
HebryMakow.com will illuminate those trying to make sense of all this shite…
Got Gold??
 
 
 
 

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 21:39 utc | 40

*****
LOL  HenryMakow.com
 

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 21:40 utc | 41

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 17:27 utc | 24
Individualism and supremacism are the two biggest social-psychological problems; both are very Zionist and very Western.
 
So….Survival of the Fittest  means nothing for the history of humanity??
The Maff doesn’t work out…

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 21:54 utc | 42

see the 18-second video at the first link
 
see the 60-second video at the second link
 
 
 
https://x.com/aldamu_jo/status/1987421437708128297
Irlandarra @aldamu_jo 
 
Christians in the Holy land 
 
Israeli army hits St George Church in Town of Yaroun, southern Lebanon, causing significant damage.
 
———–
 
https://x.com/Partisan_12/status/1987211011477418410
The Resonance  @Partisan_12 
 
“Get out of here, You K!LL Palestinians” 
 
“You Sons of B*tches K!LL people and come here to spend your holidays” 
 
🇪🇸 (Spain) A restaurant owner refused to serve Israelis, kicking them out of the restaurant.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2025 22:04 utc | 43

All Under Heaven | Nov 9 2025 18:28 utc | 29
 
It can also be said that a proliferation of toxic benzoates in most sunscreen lotions directly contributes to most skin cancers.
Every person on this planet needs UV to generate healthy levels of Vitamin D that many people have a low level of in their bodies. When you are at the beach and slathering huge amounts of Banana Boat sunscreen, the damage to your skin comes quickly. When you bask or work in the sun and get a dark tan on your body with NO sunscreen, you have basically turned yourself into a sub-saharan with all the benefits of skin/sun protection.

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:14 utc | 44

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 21:54 utc | 41
 
Thanks for the reality check

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 22:14 utc | 45

28 Ghost of Zannon–  “At any rate, months of careful spy work have been destroyed by the competent and clever Ansar Allah, and it’s back to the drawing board for the Empire of lies.”
 
Thanks to the heavens!

Posted by: Lavieja | Nov 9 2025 22:15 utc | 46

29 All Under Heaven–  “Nazi eugenics etc are liberal ideologies meant to justify colonialism. They aren’t science. Only Americans think that they are science.”
You’re disproved. LD conflates eugenics with evolution, and he’s not an American.
 

Posted by: Lavieja | Nov 9 2025 22:24 utc | 47

LoveDonbass | Nov 9 2025 19:07 utc | 31
Unfortunately there has been a couple of extensive studies done on racial intelligence most recently by Charles Murray with The Bell Curve that has  recently been blasted by neo-liberal, leftist “deepthinkers” that actually hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately there IS an intelligence hierarchy that is proven and argued positively by many scholars everywhere.
The meme that states- take the white, western administration away from ANY government or industry in sub-saharan Africa, and you are left with a broken-down, corrupt and seriously mismanaged nightmare just like Rhodesia, Zimbabwe and now South Africa.

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:27 utc | 48

Those sub-saharan govts are mostly colonial constructs imposed upon peoples who had different forms of social organization, and which worked.

Posted by: Lavieja | Nov 9 2025 22:35 utc | 49

@ bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:27 utc | 47
 
Hmm, what would Murray have to say about East Asians, who consistently score better than white folks on the white folks’ own tests?…

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 22:36 utc | 50

malenkov | Nov 9 2025 22:36 utc | 49
I wasn’t going to list the different races but whites are actually 3rd on the list behind Asians and Jewish folks.

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:45 utc | 51

@ bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:45 utc | 50
 
Then why not exterminate or at least subjugate white folks? Look at what a mess they’ve made of governance in places like Europe and the USA.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 22:47 utc | 52

@ bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:45 utc | 50
 
Also, if you go by those highly dubious IQ tests, Ashkenazim score much better than non-Ashenazim in “Israel”. Hmmm…

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 22:51 utc | 53

 “Then why not exterminate or at least subjugate white folks? Look at what a mess they’ve made of governance in places like Europe and the USA.”
 
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 22:47 utc | 51
 
malenkov, you mean well, but TRIGGER WARNING:  with your statements you are racist against Whites and then you, of course, in stead of self reflection you project that racism on others.
 
Read some history every ethnic group that had power lorded it over the others.
 
The Whites did as well; in the future the Hegemony will be elswehere and they will be hated as much as the Whites are hated now
 
Have a long think.-your intelligence should not be wasted.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 22:53 utc | 54

@ canuk | Nov 9 2025 22:53 utc | 53
 
Obviously my turning bisfab’s argument against him strains your limited intellectual abilities. Not that I’m at all surprised by that.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 22:58 utc | 55

Yawn

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 23:07 utc | 56

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2025 22:58 utc | 54
 
There was 5 minutes between my post and your reply; so I am quite confident you did not take a suggested, ‘long think’.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 23:16 utc | 57

As part of the financial meltdown of New York City that the wealthy and the Zionists plan to impose to break Mayor Mamdani, the city controller    Mark Levine  plans to re-instate the purchase of Israhellis bonds (discontinued by previous controller Brad Lander), bonds that are used to fund pension funds, etc., even though Levine knows these bonds are nearing junk level and are not financially reliable. In response, the leadership of Jewish Voice for Peace is organizing it’s ‘Break the Bond’ campaign. In municipalities across the US, JVP chapters will bring to public focus  the presence of these bonds  in pension, etc. funds, by which US citizens are unknowingly  supporting genocide of Palestinians and undertake organized actions to discontinue, as was done previously in NYC.      

Posted by: Lavieja | Nov 9 2025 23:17 utc | 58

“The meme that states- take the white, western administration away from ANY government or industry in sub-saharan Africa, and you are left with a broken-down, corrupt and seriously mismanaged nightmare just like Rhodesia, Zimbabwe and now South Africa.”
 
Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:27 utc | 47
 
It’s a sad truth.
 
Unfortunately, you have the ‘Rainbows and Unicorn crowd’ (Intellectual Rubbish) that declare the Whites have been, are,and always be the bane of the Earth. 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 23:22 utc | 59

Edit to  “often unknowingly”

Posted by: Lavieja | Nov 9 2025 23:24 utc | 60

Posted by: Lavieja | Nov 9 2025 23:17 utc | 57
 
I’m sure you are right , and they will try to push Israeli bonds anyone and everyone’s throat  but I think the pendulum has swung as Israeli is losing support daily.
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 23:25 utc | 61

“Blood is spilled in beloved Lebanon every morning and evening. New children are added to the list of orphans, and women join the ranks of widows and bereaved mothers. This is an entire society paying the price for a stance taken for God and for history. A nation that has given us its soul for the sake of God , “We do not want from you any reward or gratitude.”

In the scales of this world, politics, trade, profit, and loss, no worldly logic can justify the actions of Lebanon and Yemen . This state of devotion and sacrifice transcends the tangible and is more abstract than the perceptible.

And the beards that fall today in the toilet of evil, tossing our skulls in the devil’s playground, remind us of the uniqueness of the Lebanese and Yemeni stance, for which only God can reward.

And only those who live with the idea of ​​God and the Hereafter in their lives understand this statement. This is a dark age, an age of moral decay and the rampant pursuit of self-interest, an age where everything is for sale: Qur’ans, minarets, capital cities, the present, and history—everything is for sale.

A time will come when everything is false, even the blind beards that preach.

A time will come when dignity is a disgrace, and shame is the tyrannical Pharaoh.

A time will come when downfall is a source of prestige, and the people are mere pasture, and the shepherds are the greedy ones.

Journalist Youssef Fares

Occupied Palestine – Gaza Strip”

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 9 2025 23:33 utc | 62

Why did G_d give Palestine to the Palestinians?
 
PROOF THAT WW1 WAS FOUGHT TO STEAL PALESTINE/ISRAEL FOR THE JEWS.
 
The First World War; 100 years of lies.
 
So, why was the first world war planned and executed?
 
To steal Palestine/Israel for the Jews!
 
The plan was already well known in 1853.
 
The following is a quote from George Faber’s 1853 book on the downfall of the Turkish power and the return of the ten tribes (available here).
 
“The subversion of the Turkish Power will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things. It will commence, indeed, in Europe: but,… it will pass into Palestine…. and, in the course of its evolutions, Israel will be restored.”
 
George Faber and his fellow conspirators, the Jews, successfully bought the plan to fruition, as can be seen from the following:
 
“The subversion of the Turkish Power [i.e., the Ottoman Empire] will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war [i.e., the first world war]. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things [ushering a new world order]. It will commence, indeed, in Europe [with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914]: but,… it will pass into Palestine [western troops entered Palestine early in 1917]…. and, in the course of its evolutions [the second world war beginning 1939], Israel will be restored [Palestine/Israel was successfully stolen from its rightful inhabitants in 1948].”
 
Some have complained that George Faber should not be included among the conspirators. They claim that he was just being used by the Jews to attain their ends. To back up their claim they state that Faber foresaw the return of all twelve tribes of Israel, which never happened, whereas the Jews only wanted the return of the Jews, which did happen. Once the Jews had obtained their goal, no more was heard about the return of the other tribes, it just wasn’t a concern. This indicates that Faber’s notions were of little importance, and that he was being used by the conspirators, rather than that he was among the conspirators.

Posted by: John | Nov 9 2025 23:40 utc | 63

Am only able to give a broad overview at present, with much in flux or stalled, the following is not really news to those reading here:

Only a fraction of goods promised (lorry loads) have been delivered since ‘ceasefire’ . i.e. so many lorries were supposed to have entered in this timeframe and only a fraction have (do not have figures handy atm). The US is said to be taking over organisation of transit and delivery later this week.

Very mixed presentation on phase 2, i.e. governance and withdrawal , mostly suggestions and proposals that are not fully agreed, often contradictory between differing parties.

There are still 150-200 Palestine fighters known on occupation side of ‘yellow line’ , offers of passage to Hamas side are stalled, the declared intent is to destroy related tunnels, and just now there have been bombardments west of Khan Yunis …i.e. no trust. As for returning ‘missing prisoners’ to occupation I think most know the story. In Gaza there are said 20 000 tonnes of unexploded ordnance, and tens of thousands missing under the rubble.

Occupation continues aggression in west bank, Lebanon and Syria, continues breaking ceasefire agreements (thousands of incidents registered), continues attacks and demolitions, inside ‘yellow line’

Assembly of an international observer/peace force has slowly reduced to a pro occupation , US orientated proposal, due to reticence by more neutral states to have forces be subject to occupation orientated or imposed, order.

In short, apart from the heavy bombardment of Gaza which has eased, little else has actually changed, there is little certainty to phase 2 , and aggression has picked up in other areas as mentioned.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 10 2025 0:06 utc | 64

The meme that states- take the white, western administration away from ANY government or industry in sub-saharan Africa, and you are left with a broken-down, corrupt and seriously mismanaged nightmare just like Rhodesia, Zimbabwe and now South Africa.
Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:27 utc | 47
 
You are a racist f*ckwit! 
 
Much of Africa,including “Rhodesia” and South Africa was colonised by military force and pillaged anything of value,including land for agriculture (read tobacco and rubber plantations), while refusing to allow or train the local population in matters agriculture, industry, government, or civil service except in manual labour.
 
After “so-called” independence, the local leaders and population were expected to self govern and manage, overnight, without the training any “white” would have received – a colonialist ploy that scum like you were quick to label “Blacks” as stupid, incapable or incompetent.
 

Posted by: Menz | Nov 10 2025 0:31 utc | 67

@ Menz | Nov 10 2025 0:31 utc | 65
 
Thank you. 

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 10 2025 0:53 utc | 68

see the 14-second video at the first link
 
see the photos at the second link
 
see the three short videos at the fourth link
 
 
 
https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/1987593748172198060
Ihab Hassan  @IhabHassane 
 
BREAKING: Israeli settler terrorists are now burning down the village of Majdal Bani Fadel in the West Bank—starting with the olive groves. Flames are spreading rapidly as residents plead for help to put out the fires
 
—————
 
https://x.com/OunkaOnX/status/1987225990246940754
Ounka @OunkaOnX 
 
Israel – Where Leaking Videos Of Sexual Abuse Gets You Arrested While The Rapist Is celebrated Like A Celebrity!!
 
————-
 
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1855617712417828875
Tiberius  @ecomarxi 
 
Social media is plastered with ‘Lest we forget’ by people who are ignoring a genocide
 
————-
 
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1987466716109045848
Quds News Network  @QudsNen 
 
This morning, Israeli occupation forces forcibly expelled Palestinian woman Umm Zuhri Shweiki, an elderly woman, from her home in the Batn al-Hawa neighborhood of Silwan, occupied Jerusalem. 
 
The forces surrounded the house, blocked access roads, seized the rooftop, and emptied the property of all contents before handing it over to extremist settlers, citing ownership claims dating back to 1881. 
 
The eviction is part of a broader campaign led by the extremist settler group Ateret Cohanim, which claims 5 dunums and 200 square meters in Batn al-Hawa, threatening 87 Palestinian families with displacement. Footage shows a complete military siege as residents were prevented from approaching while settlers prepared to take over the home.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 10 2025 1:47 utc | 69

see the 16-second video at the first link
 
see the 1:47 video at the last link
 
 
 
https://x.com/Palestine001_/status/1987424983489126545
Parwiz Hamidi _🇵🇸  @Palestine001_ 
 
Scenes of Israeli settlers destroying Palestinian olive groves in the West Bank, which are one of the most important sources of livelihood for Palestinians and a symbol of their steadfastness on the land.
 
————-
 
https://x.com/aaronjmate/status/1987262548001870076
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate 
 
One likely US-Israeli aim of the “ceasefire” was to get the world to stop paying attention to Israeli aggression:
 
 
https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1987052828024840312
Al Jazeera English @AJEnglish 
 
Israeli forces have attacked the eastern part of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip, while Israeli bulldozers have also demolished residential buildings there.
🔴 Follow our LIVE coverage: http://aje.io/bhosiw
 
————-
 
https://x.com/OunkaOnX/status/1987520893870915957
Ounka  @OunkaOnX 
 
“Israeli settlers are waiting for the green light to commit the largest land theft of the 21st century, fully backed by their terrorist state.”
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 10 2025 2:42 utc | 70

Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow is Facing Controversy For Saying There Is A ‘Genocide in Gaza’
 
https://x.com/DavideMastracci/status/1985448663531864175
 
“Jewish groups are calling for Olivia Chow to retract her words and apologize.”
 
Toronto’s mayor, previously a Zionist supporter and enthusiastic suppressor of anti-Genocide protests, facing a re-election bid next year, has done the appropriate political calculus and determined she’d lose the mayoral race unless she changed her tune. She has now done so. 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 3:37 utc | 71

72
 
We have two criminal families on our street who work for the police, working as informants to the police about the lucrative trade in drugs. In our area ,  drugs and prostitution are run by Muslims and Police.
 
The crimjnal, now Police family opposite me house has a comnercial size CCTV camera bolted onto the front of his house.
The other criminal, now Police family down the road I have seen police cars collecting spy equipment from their house. I have never heard policemen address the public with so much respect as they give to these paid grasses.
 
Such is Life. Fatah and Hamas. Muhammed Dalman and Hamas
Gaza is trashed. West Bank being trashed.
Divide and Rule  .  USUKIS. 

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 10 2025 4:17 utc | 72

73 
 
Mohammed Dahlan, arns dealer.
 
 

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 10 2025 5:21 utc | 73

73
Neighbour police Jassous went off to see the police with his brother whose wife  works in the prison service. 
Nice little  Muslim family business you have going there brother, working for the Nest of Islamist Spies in London and Jewlani, and in the local drugs and prostitution industry here.
 
Not quite Dahlan and Mark Thatcher and David Cameron level. But everybody’s gotta start somewhere.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 10 2025 5:38 utc | 74

 
see the 29-second video at the first link
 
see the 1:46 video at the second link. these terrorist israeli-jews are always making videos of themselves committing crimes against humanity. Who can bring it to an end?
 
 
 
 
https://x.com/GerardDalbon/status/1987224758703038957
Gerard  @GerardDalbon 
 
Protesters in Brooklyn marching right now in solidarity with Gaza from Hakeem Jeffries home to Schumer’s residence to demand an arms embargo on Israel and action from Democratic leaders 🇵🇸
 
———–
 
https://x.com/trackingisrael/status/1987232500343570670
Israel Genocide Tracker  @trackingisrael 
 
The genocidal freak is back, this time documenting his unit patrolling with demolition excavators, demolishing what’s left of northern Gaza behind the ceasefire’s yellow line, with hysterical laughter and jokes as they watch displaced Palestinians’ homes being flattened.
 
https://x.com/trackingisrael/status/1982896130670375342
Israel Genocide Tracker @trackingisrael
 
“What did we come to do? To blow up, dismantle, destroy – to erase the memory of Amalek.”
 
Israeli terrorists document how they annihilate what remains of Palestinians’ homes in Gaza during the ceasefire; the mission is to leave “nothing” behind the yellow line.
 
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 10 2025 5:43 utc | 75

This thread has been deliberately filled with crap.

Posted by: Johnny Conspiranoid | Nov 10 2025 7:38 utc | 76

Read some history every ethnic group that had power lorded it over the others.
 
Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 22:53 utc | 54
 
#####
 
More Zionist “logic”.
 
“If we didn’t genocide you, someone else would have…
 
Everyone does it…”
 
The thinking and rationalizations of a colonizer.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 10 2025 8:00 utc | 77

racism in white culture may be “off the charts” but one has to be a special kind of dimwit to think that kind of cancer didn’t swallow billion(s) others. ever wondered why most of India enjoys seeing mass murderings in Gaza for instance ?
just watched baramulla this morning btw, that kind of overt racist propaganda would make goebbels blush… that’s what routinely served on netflix & al… all muslim characters are presented as evil plotters, child kidnappers & murdering jihadists. all end up killed by vengeful pandits ghosts in kashmir basically, very subtle ^^

Posted by: routine | Nov 10 2025 8:59 utc | 78

“The reason why Zionism is so violent, evil and addictive is that it was created by intellectual propagandists working for European Imperialism .”
 
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 9 2025 14:59 utc | 5
 
You are off track.
 
The quintessential reason that Zionism “is so violent, evil and addictive” because it was designed to be that that way.  It is used to promote anti-Semitism  in order to isolate Jewish peoples all over the world to give incentive to move to Israel and support Israel.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 12:36 utc | 79

Just testing to see if this will post.  My last comment supposedly posted and then disappeared. 

Posted by: teri | Nov 10 2025 12:38 utc | 80

 
“Read some history every ethnic group that had power lorded it over the others.” Posted by: canuk | Nov 9 2025 22:53 utc |
54Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 10 2025 8:00 utc | 80
 
Your juvenile name calling is not an argument it is a but a  distraction from not actually debating my point.
 
Kindly please give me an example in history of a ethnic group that had Hegemonic power and did not use it to ‘lord over the minorities’ within its rule/Hegemony.
 
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 12:39 utc | 81

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 10 2025 3:37 utc | 73
 
Olivia Chow is a retard and has mismanaged Toronto horrendously; however, I give her alot of respect for the Genocide remark.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 13:27 utc | 82

“Much of Africa,including “Rhodesia” and South Africa was colonised by military force and pillaged anything of value,including land for agriculture (read tobacco and rubber plantations),”
 
Posted by: Menz | Nov 10 2025 0:31 utc | 67
 
You don’t read your history very well-before the ‘colonizers’ there was the Zulus, whom were Genociders:
 
“The term “Zulu genocide” is not widely used in historical accounts; however, the Mfecane, a period of widespread chaos and warfare in the early 19th century, involved immense violence and death, with the Zulu kingdom under leaders like Shaka playing a significant role in the destruction of rival groups. During this time, Zulu armies engaged in total annihilation of enemies, leading to millions of deaths in present-day South Africa and Zimbabwe. While this period of mass death is sometimes described as genocidal, scholars now view its causes as a complex interplay of factors predating the Zulu kingdom, including political centralization, trade, environmental instability, and European colonization. ”
 
Calling people ‘racists’ when you don’t understand the historical period illustrates the paucity of your intellect as you allow  your hysterical emotions to run your thinking.
 
Grow the Fuck Up!!

Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 13:38 utc | 83

Re. history of ISR  –  discussed here. 
 
Pascal Lottaz at Neutrality Studies (CH) interviews Manuel Ramos. 10 Nov. 2025.  55 mins.
The age of European colonialism never really ended, it just changed its costume. Today’s geopolitics look and feel so barbarian medieval because they are the ghosts of the Crusades and a forgotten medieval legend. (…)  
 
We trace a 1,000-year-old story, uncovering the surprising roots of Christian Zionism, the messianic fantasies behind the “Age of Discovery,” and the religious undercurrents that still shape Europe’s troubled relationship with the world.  
 
A deep dive into history, Ramos is hard to listen to, yet, the historical continuity can’t be denied, I have always wondered about it  (I’m no historian..)  Pascal is quite puzzled and frowns, blinks a lot.. anyways… 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBo9mmDDIg4
 

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 10 2025 14:06 utc | 84

@83 teri

The first I posted on thread did the same, then re-appeared later … was probably caught in a filter of some kind until released.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 10 2025 14:12 utc | 85

Posted by: routine | Nov 10 2025 8:59 utc | 81
You mention the racism of Indians. Well why not, they have an inbuilt system of caste that started off as racism of the conquering Aryans over the native peoples of India going back 5000 years at least.
Also , why do people always assume racism is never warranted? Do you know what the non-Islamic Indian Sub-Continentals have gone through in history under Islam? It is fashionable now to never presume Islam has never been at fault in anything. It takes half a brain , and knowledge to see that Islam has a lot to account for and is not blameless. Tell me , do you see many Christians wanting to go live in Egypt ,Pakistan ,Bangladesh,Turkey ? You bring up Dubai maybe? Nope, gated communities and the natives and Christian Euros live practically apart. 
Tell me , how good did it turn out for the Christian Yugoslavs who forgave the Moslems there genocides in Ottoman times and even in WWII? Not very well.
 
So Indians being racist and happy with Israel? Stupid if you ask me. Short term win at best , but I can understand them being racist against Moslems given the history there.
 
 
 

Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 10 2025 14:46 utc | 86

Posted by: bisfab | Nov 9 2025 22:27 utc | 48
I get your point but it may be a little simplistic. Maybe the Souther African are cpap because they have not been able to industrialise, or have proper control over their own resources. All the Hegemon keeps doing is installing comprador govs. You wont get rich or attain a high civilisational level if the Hegemon only lets you be a supplier of bananas and tourism holidays where you see native women in grass skirts. You watch Germany in two generations or so , I reckon  they will be behind South Africa in everything; IQ, wealth, civilisational achievements etc. Almost certain in my mind, if Russian gas is not connected back at low prices. 
Maybe the fact  that the Southern African nations are still tribal per se ,  so cannot unite to be a productive one ethnos even within their own borders. So you constantly have fights over the benefits ie Northern Irish Protestants vs Catholic Irish in Northern Ireland was the same. 
IQ is only one potential reason for failure in the South of Africa. We will see. Also , only fifty to one hundred years ago , Slavs,  Chinese and Indians were all considered dumb and eternal toilers for the Western Europeans.  Even  Germany was once barbarous and 100-150 years ago makers of poor quality goods. So tell me why are the former three doing so well now and the US and the EU so poorly? Where did that extra IQ come from then?  Why are the European peoples doing so poorly in wealth and standard of life now if they have such high  IQs?
 

Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 10 2025 15:06 utc | 87

There is no ceasefire – the Zionists killing machine hasn’t skipped a beat – as for countries suddenly recognising the state of Palestine, how many have opened a Palestinian embassy in East Jerusalem – its all live to placate the masses  – the genocide continues at apace.
 
“The Israeli military has launched a “fire belt” in the southern Gaza Strip, killing two Palestinians, including a child, in its latest breach of a ceasefire deal clinched last month to end more than two years of genocide by the Tel Aviv regime.
The fatalities were caused on Monday, when Israeli airstrikes targeted the town of Abasan, east of the city of Khan Younis, Palestinian medical sources reported.
The aggression also targeted the nearby town of Bani Suhaila.
Earlier in the day, medical sources had announced that a Palestinian child had been killed after an explosive device left behind by Israeli forces inside Khan Younis was detonated.
The death marked the second one of its type to take place in the mostly devastated coastal territory within less than 24 hours.
According to resistance outlets, the deadly violations, meanwhile, “coincide with the systematic destruction of residential areas” in Khan Younis’ southeast and Rafah, another southern Gazan city.
“Shelling and explosions are constant along the eastern border of Gaza, causing fear among displaced families in their tents,” the reports also noted.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 15:10 utc | 88

Its just beginning to dawn on Hamas that the ceasefire is one lot of bollocks.
 
“The Palestinian resistance movement Hamas reaffirms its commitment to the Gaza ceasefire agreement, warning that Israel’s “repeated violations” threaten the deal’s successful implementation.
“We are keen on making the ceasefire agreement successful, and we support its implementation,” a senior Hamas leader, Ismail Radwan, said in an interview with the Al Jazeera news network published on Sunday.
He added that the ceasefire agreement was intended to halt the killing of civilians, but 241 people have been killed since it took effect.
He also criticized the limited flow of humanitarian aid into the war-ravaged Gaza Strip, noting that only 150 to 200 trucks are allowed to enter daily, which is far below the 600 figure that was agreed upon.
The senior Hamas official emphasized that people in Gaza continue to suffer from famine and doctors and hospitals are in desperate need of medicine due to the ongoing Israeli blockade.
Radwan urged the international community to exert pressure on Israel to reopen the Rafah crossing.
He added that Hamas has informed mediators that it is ready to withdraw its fighters from the so-called yellow zone, and finalize the issue of Palestinian prisoners’ bodies as soon as possible.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 15:12 utc | 89

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 9 2025 18:28 utc | 30
I didn’t conflate Eugenics  with Evolution. You presumed I did , but I do not and did not write such in my post. I only commented on Evolution.

Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 10 2025 15:13 utc | 90

@88 Noirette

In parallel, early Anglo Saxon dominion was based on territorial rule (brute colonialism), where natives were subjects that owed alegiance to the rulers for providing a safe territory (even though conquered) to be ‘born into’. The rulers were granted title by descent, the peasantry by birth and of lower status (subject).

This is before christianity even.

The merger of nobility into ‘Israelite’ in UK was based on redefining status after seperating from the catholic framework, which incidentally was also based on questions of hierarchy of legitimacy (by descent in first para). The Anglican church was in part permitted/formed with this in mind, to sanctify royal lineage.

So from there we are able to discern the channels of influence opened over various western royalty, which they themselves also welcomed.

Ultimately, they place themselves as a superior part of the hierarchy (ancient royal descent claim) , where the population are viewed as basically rejects of the region according to biblical myth (and now disproven).

With his (necessary) focus, Ramos does miss out on various important facets, previous european (Roman for example) conquest of the region, the later conflict after ‘Islamic conquest’ of the near east, as well as repulsion of that in europe (via ‘reconquest’ etc. ) . These are ‘pragmatic realities’ as much as religion based, meaning religious definitions (of all kinds) defined the hierarchy, boundaries and objectives to society in an understandable way, but were not necessarily prime motive…simply put conquest and control, in whatever guise.

“Today’s geopolitics look and feel so barbarian medieval because they are.”

Is maybe all that needs to be said. Nations are returning or have returned, to previous levels of barbarity and lack of civilisation or moral, with the rest being simply pretext and excuse.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 10 2025 15:37 utc | 91

When will the world body U.N. cancel the Non Binding U.N. Resolution # 181, or should the U.N. be moved to Gaza in the rebuild, or just canceled? TY B 

Posted by: chuckn | Nov 10 2025 15:40 utc | 92

This plea will fall on deaf ears – Lebanese forces (army) wouldn’t dare fire back at IDF troops – Netanyahu’s Greater Israel dream,  will find very little resistance in South Western Lebanon.
 
“Senior member of Hezbollah’s Political Council, Mahmoud Qamati, has underscored that Lebanon’s national unity and the preservation of the resistance’s weapons are crucial to thwart the “existential threat” posed by Israel and the United States.
“No political faction in Lebanon should align with the Israeli enemy, especially in the face of the real existential threat called ‘Greater Israel’,” Qamati stated during a memorial service on Monday.
He added, “There’s a declared project to place Lebanon under US and Israeli guardianship,” adding that the US wants to strip the country of defense, economy, and basic survival because “it seeks to fragment Lebanon.”
“When we say we won’t surrender our weapons, that’s the minimum stance we can take in the face of this existential threat to Lebanon.”
Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the Israeli media in August that he feels a deep connection to “this vision” of a “Greater Israel,” referring to the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories as well as parts of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon, and described it as “a historical and spiritual mission.”
Amid renewed American calls for Hezbollah’s disarmament, a resistance movement that has for decades defended Lebanon against foreign aggression, particularly from Israel, Qamati asserted that Netanyahu’s statement is a real threat to Lebanon and that the country has the sovereign right to reject external dictates.
“It is our national right to reject US orders that seek to dictate our government’s actions in the service of Israel,” he stated.”
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 15:43 utc | 93

Basically, if you speak out against the genocide in Gaza – the Zionists, the Ellison’s won’t employ you – and you’ll be labelled anti-Semitic.
 
“A recent report has revealed that Paramount Global, an American multinational mass media and entertainment conglomerate, maintains an internal blacklist of entertainment figures it labels “anti-Semitic,” applying the term to any artist who supports Palestine or denounces Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza.
Variety magazine reported on Tuesday that Paramount’s new CEO, David Ellison, has moved to sever ties with all pro-Palestine or anti-Israel movements.
To that end, the company has dismissed executives critical of Israel and refuses to collaborate with any artist or public figure who views the occupying regime’s actions in Gaza as genocidal.
In a statement released on Friday, Paramount said it “disagreed with recent efforts to boycott Israeli filmmakers,” claiming that “silencing individual creative artists does not promote better understanding or advance the cause of peace.”
The statement came after Film Workers for Palestine, supported by over 4,000 international actors and directors, including Emma Stone, Mark Ruffalo, Tilda Swinton, Javier Bardem, and Olivia Colman, announced a boycott of Israeli film institutions complicit “in genocide and apartheid against the Palestinian people.”
The collective rejected Paramount’s characterization of their initiative, clarifying that the pledge targets institutions, not individual artists.
 “We hope the studio is not intentionally misrepresenting the pledge in an attempt to silence our colleagues in the film industry,” the group stated.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 15:46 utc | 94

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Nov 9 2025 18:28 utc | 30
 
“I didn’t conflate Eugenics  with Evolution. You presumed I did , but I do not and did not write such in my post. I only commented on Evolution.”
 
Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 10 2025 15:13 utc | 94
 
I can read, All Under , obviously can’t; Recently, you are exactly correct.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 10 2025 15:50 utc | 95

It is predictable that Western chauvinists always have detailed Western literature to explain other cultures.
 
It’s like the Kennedys going from bootlegging during prohibition to being upstanding civil servants financing institutions. The Bush family followed the same model.
 
Kings would finance apologia that would build the case for their divinely inspired rule and any “necessary” atrocities.
 
The evil of the Zulus, the Indian tribes, the “Moslems”.
 
Written overwhelmingly by people who never visited those regions or lived in those cultures.
 
That is “history”. History is written by the victor to whitewash how the victory was achieved.
 
Written by the colonizers for their “legacy”.
 
Look no further than the nonsense American and Canadian discovery/exploration narratives about the Americas. Don’t get me started on the Spanish and Portuguese.
 
Btw, if not for Sinwar and Hamas, people would still be eating up this bullshit about “a land without a people for a people without a land”.
 
Over looking the North African and Iranian Jews that are a part of those racial intelligence studies, right? Western imperialists don’t recognize the Black Israelites as Jews. Neither do the Israelis…
 
Btw, Jews are not a race, and Zionism is not Judaism. Torah following Jews loudly reject Israel.
 
Judaism, like Islam, is an ideology, not a race. The difference is, anyone can become a Muslim but Judaism is racially exclusive.
 
Any ideology, Communism or Capitalism, or Judaism or Islam has to be focused on human flourishing to be useful and positive.
 
Is Zionism conducive to community, peace, and prosperity?
 
Or is it best understood in its lesser form, MAGA, starving millions to death and bombing civilians?
 
China and Russia are slowly withdrawing the Colonial supply of victims. Not a fast process, but the world has nukes, and the greatest fanatics in human history are armed with them, coincidentally (?) a Doomsday cult chasing a “Rapture”.
 
Instead of being offended or indignant, when someone talks about colonialism, ask yourself, why does it make me mad that Westerners get portrayed as bad guys?
 
Am I a bad guy?
 
Do I support colonialism with my actions or beliefs?
 
If you don’t support rape, theft or murder, you are probably ok.
 
But if you’re an Israeli, British, or American apologist, you are part of the problem. That’s your choice, please don’t cry when your beliefs identify you in a poor light.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 10 2025 15:58 utc | 96

Greece and Cyprus, getting into bed with the Zio-Nazi’s and the  US Terrorist State – Cyprus is currently being swamped with fleeing rats (Zio-Nazi’s) buying up all available  properties in Cyprus and making them gated communities – the Cypriots will one day regret allowing those Zio-Nazi cuckoo’s in – as they will take over as they did in Palestine – what is they say about Greeks bearing gifts again? “Energy ministers from Israel, the United States, Greece, and Cyprus have vowed to enhance cooperation in regional energy security and infrastructure as part of a new alliance aimed at reducing Europe’s dependence on Russian resources. They announced the initiative during a high-level summit in Athens on Sunday, pledging to coordinate policies and investments to broaden energy supplies and reinforce economic and strategic ties among “like-minded regional partners”. In a joint statement, the ministers condemned Moscow’s attempts to circumvent Western sanctions and finance the war in Ukraine, emphasizing their united determination to counter Russian influence in the global energy market. They also voiced support for the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC), recognizing it as a crucial element of a broader strategy to expand trade and energy routes across the Eastern Mediterranean. Israeli Energy Minister Eli Cohen claimed the initiative would position Israel as a vital bridge between the Persian Gulf and Europe, enhancing its role as a regional energy hub. ”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:11 utc | 97

I’ll be more than surprised if this goes anywhere in the German courts – Germany, is currently zealously supporting the Zionists genocide. “The Hind Rajab Foundation (HRF) has taken a step toward international justice for Palestinians by filing a criminal complaint in Germany against former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.The complaint targets Olmert for war crimes committed during the brutal Israeli military assault on Gaza in 2008–2009, known as “Operation Cast Lead.”Ehud Olmert, who served as Prime Minister of Israel from 2006 to 2009, held the ultimate political and military authority over all Israeli Occupation Forces operations, including the devastating campaign launched on December 27, 2008.The legal filing holds Olmert directly responsible for the extensive and systematic nature of the violence deployed under his command.Under Olmert’s direction, the Israeli regime and military high command executed a large-scale military campaign that inflicted widespread destruction and immense human suffering across the densely populated Gaza Strip.The assault tragically resulted in the killing of more than 1,300 Palestinians, including over 300 children and 115 women.Furthermore, more than 5,000 people were injured, and tens of thousands of homes were destroyed.The HRF’s account details the systematic nature of the violence used against the civilian population.The foundation stated that various reports by human rights organizations “documented a consistent pattern of deliberate or reckless targeting of civilians and civilian objects, the use of white phosphorus munitions in populated areas, and collective punishment of the entire Gaza population through the systematic destruction of vital infrastructure.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:11 utc | 98

The fuckin Dutch, first they compile a lying shit report on MH17, then they steal a Chinese chip company Nexperia, of which they have had to hand back – because China stopped sending chips to it – now this lets not forget Rutte now Nato’s Lord Haw Haw – who calls Trump Daddy, was also PM of the Netherlands. “The Hague Court of Appeal has rejected a lawsuit by pro‑Palestinian groups seeking to halt Dutch arms sales to Israel, ruling that while there is a “serious risk” of genocide in Gaza, foreign policy decisions remain the government’s prerogative.On Thursday, the court threw out the case, asserting that, although “there is a serious risk that Israel will commit genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza,” the Dutch government has “considerable discretion” to determine foreign policy and issues of national security.The court stated in its written decision that it could not impose a broad prohibition, as the plaintiffs had not provided evidence that the government consistently neglected to assess whether exported weapons or dual-use items might be employed in rights violations.The court additionally mandated the organizations to cover the legal expenses.“While it is plausible that there is a risk of genocide and serious human rights violations, it is not, in principle, up to the court to prescribe to the State what measures must be taken to prevent this,” the court said in a statement.Ten pro-Palestinian NGOs had filed the lawsuit against the Dutch government, lambasting it for doing too little to prevent the “genocide” in Gaza with a “clearly unlawful” foreign policy towards the Israeli regime.The activist groups were hoping the lawsuit would compel the Netherlands to halt the supply of weapons and trained police dogs to Israel, as well as sever economic connections with businesses active in the occupied Palestinian territories.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:11 utc | 99

I hope he wins big – against the corrupt warmongering EU puppet leaders – the EU isn’t fit for purpose. “Mohammed Baraka, second from right, on his last day at the border between Gaza and Egypt.
A Palestinian man is taking the European Union (EU) to court over his dismissal from a border monitoring job at the Rafah border crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt.According to media reports on Sunday, Mohammed Baraka, who worked at the EU’s Rafah border mission for nearly two decades, filed a discrimination claim in a Belgian court.Baraka, who worked at the mission after its inception in 2006, had been evacuated to the Egyptian capital, Cairo, to continue his work after the Israeli genocidal war started against the besieged Palestinian territory.But he was dismissed this year after the 27-member bloc decided to close the office in Rafah due to the brutal Israeli aggression.In the claim submitted to a Brussels tribunal, his lawyer, Selma Benkhelifa, stated that Baraka “does not criticize the decision to close the Rafah office” as “the security situation justifies this.”However, she argued that his EU counterparts, who also worked for EUBam in Rafah, “were not dismissed, they were transferred elsewhere” to continue work, giving alleged grounds for “discrimination on the basis of his nationality.”The case also challenges the EU’s use of rolling one-year contracts, which the suit said breaches a Belgian law requiring permanent status after three consecutive contracts.“A provision that allows an employer to renew fixed-term contracts is contrary to Belgian and European public policy,” the lawsuit says.“It is shocking to note that a European institution is circumventing public policy provisions intended to protect workers. The applicant’s contract must be reclassified as a permanent contract,” the claim adds.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 10 2025 16:12 utc | 100