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November 27, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-272
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Newbie @ 12: Posted by: Newbie | Nov 27 2025 23:27 utc | 101 Regarding the MSM/Mockingbirds, surely I’m not the only one to notice the less hostile tone toward Trump this term. The reason is clear enough: for all his bluster, which has been contradictory and nonsensical in any case, Trump’s actions have furthered the interest of Silicon Valley, Wall St, the Pentagon and the Deep State in general. The oligarchs who really run this country don’t care who sits in the Oval Office, any more than they care which party controls Congress. They can all be bought, extorted, blackmailed or otherwise corrupted, and almost all of them are. Posted by: Johnathan | Nov 27 2025 23:28 utc | 102 Posted by: persiflo | Nov 27 2025 22:51 utc | 93 Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 27 2025 23:29 utc | 103 Paranoia suggests a higher than usual chance of a pro-zionist or anti-venezuelan false flag connected to the Nobel peace price some time during the next two weeks, in other words Oslo. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 27 2025 23:36 utc | 104 Paranoia suggests Posted by: Newbie | Nov 27 2025 23:43 utc | 105 Well, the information about the Leitz 5008 was certainly a low point, lol. But the German post-punk scene was complete news to me. I’ll dig into it when I’m home from the tavern later. By the way, my own bassplaying reminds me of Holger Czukay, and I even look a bit like him. My favourite Can track is Mother Sky. Posted by: persiflo | Nov 27 2025 23:53 utc | 106 The Muricans can keep the Afghan collaborators who escaped defeat along with thier masters. As an Afghan, we don’t want those POS in Afghanistan. Posted by: Saag | Nov 28 2025 0:14 utc | 107 I know that B doesn’t think much of LLMs, but even google’s search one (fully RAG enabled) can do a good sum up (properly asked) the situation for ECOWAS could be described as facing an existential Status Withdrawn Suspended Suspended
The collective situation is a significant test for the future of West African integration, which has been the strongest and most active regional bloc on the continent for nearly 50 years Posted by: Newbie | Nov 28 2025 0:16 utc | 108 My thanksgiving story starts out a bit like juliania’s, with a knock on the door – oh dear! – and even the bell rung. Twice. Turns out it was my neighbour, who wanted to bring me a slice of pizza. Just that. Posted by: juliania | Nov 28 2025 0:21 utc | 109 Posted by: WD | Nov 27 2025 12:24 utc |4 Posted by: juliania | Nov 28 2025 0:33 utc | 110 As long as Vladimir continues to focus on war and not scientific progress, Russia will fall further in the rankings of tech superpowers even in sectors it used to compete with the US. They should be ashamed to see the level of China’s space program compared to theirs. Posted by: Kendrick | Nov 28 2025 0:49 utc | 111 Trump’s administration is losing it, IMO Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 28 2025 0:56 utc | 112 As long as Vladimir continues to focus on war and not scientific progress, Russia will fall further in the rankings of tech superpowers even in sectors it used to compete with the US. They should be ashamed to see the level of China’s space program compared to theirs. Posted by: Kendrick | Nov 28 2025 0:57 utc | 113 “Newbie” ( Nov 27 2025 23:43 utc | 103 ): Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 28 2025 0:59 utc | 114 Alexis Tsipras (ex-PM of Greece) released his memoir. Although I’m no fan of Tsipras, I find his passage about Putin to be very interesting. Posted by: Dankgis Khan | Nov 28 2025 1:08 utc | 115 @101 lex “I guess the open thread is open territory to discuss popular culture…. Speaking for myself, lively more cheerful conversation etc. I appreciate finding . Especially given how heavy the mood is currently on several other topics. Will add the following for contrast: In the sky https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzi9AdDxpKY Posted by: Ornot | Nov 28 2025 1:11 utc | 116 All eyes on silver. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 28 2025 1:14 utc | 117
Posted by: Juan Moment | Nov 28 2025 1:14 utc | 118 Republic of Scotland @ 61 and elsewhere, and other interested barflies: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 28 2025 1:14 utc | 119 Say what you want about Tsipras, but I think this passage is good evidence against the Western argument that Putin wants puppet states and soft power in the West. Putin was essentially offered a Western client state on a platter, and refused it. I think in Putin’s grand vision, he wanted to watch the EU burn Greece to the ground (which they did), as the EU destroying one of their own would be more useful to Putin’s vision than anything else. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 28 2025 1:15 utc | 120 Posted by: Ornot | Nov 28 2025 1:11 utc | 113 Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 28 2025 1:28 utc | 121 Posted by: Dankgis Khan | Nov 28 2025 1:08 utc | 112
Thank you for your post, Dankgis. I did not know this had happened. I was following online mostly at nakedcapitalism.com when Greece was in the spotlight, and Tsipras seemed to fold contrary to what his people expected of him. I can remember being annoyed with Yves since her take was ‘there is no alternative’ and Germany at the time was top dog in the EU. I’m not sure your reading of Putin’s motive is correct, but most certainly it would not have helped for him to do as he had been offered to do. I hope he did it for the right reasons, even if at the time it may simply have been that Russia was in no position to accept such an offer. Posted by: juliania | Nov 28 2025 2:30 utc | 122 Regarding the MSM/Mockingbirds, surely I’m not the only one to notice the less hostile tone toward Trump this term. The reason is clear enough: for all his bluster, which has been contradictory and nonsensical in any case, Trump’s actions have furthered the interest of Silicon Valley, Wall St, the Pentagon and the Deep State in general. The oligarchs who really run this country don’t care who sits in the Oval Office, any more than they care which party controls Congress. They can all be bought, extorted, blackmailed or otherwise corrupted, and almost all of them are. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 28 2025 2:34 utc | 123 […] My favourite Can track is Mother Sky. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 28 2025 2:36 utc | 124 More about the DCNational Guard shooter
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 28 2025 2:44 utc | 125 Refinnejenna | Nov 28 2025 1:14 utc | 116 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 2:45 utc | 126 @ Dankgis Khan | Nov 28 2025 1:08 utc | 112 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 28 2025 2:51 utc | 127 Posted by: Femi | Nov 27 2025 18:18 utc | 50 Posted by: Menz | Nov 28 2025 2:56 utc | 128 Also, can’t finance socialism the way most of you would like Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 28 2025 2:56 utc | 129 Femi’s Blog, I recommend it, especially with the dearth of balanced reporting on Africa in the MSM. Posted by: Menz | Nov 28 2025 3:00 utc | 130 @4 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Nov 28 2025 3:12 utc | 131 A recent thought has occurred to me, spurred by Karlof1 and Johan Kaspar’s comments re China/Japan. Posted by: Suresh | Nov 28 2025 3:20 utc | 132 Femi | Nov 27 2025 18:18 utc | 50 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 3:34 utc | 133 My latest on China’s Major Energy Moves all about removing dependency upon the West, developing new growing industries and becoming the “green” leader of the future. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 28 2025 3:41 utc | 134 “Germany is openly declaring militarism, followed by the new Japanese PM./Posted by: Suresh | Nov 28 2025 3:20 utc | 129” Posted by: Asian Frog | Nov 28 2025 3:48 utc | 135 The Cradle: ‘Imperial Blowback’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 28 2025 4:09 utc | 136 More impact from the DC shootings Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 28 2025 5:02 utc | 137
I apologise for being abrupt. It was late and I was tired with no time to go on about the matter. Not that I have much more time now, it’s early and I’m about to go to work. I’m writing something but I’ll post it this evening when I’ll be home. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Nov 28 2025 5:05 utc | 138 Ornot @ 113: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 28 2025 5:09 utc | 139
Great, thank you! Posted by: S | Nov 28 2025 5:09 utc | 140 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 28 2025 3:41 utc | 131 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 5:15 utc | 141 AD ASTRA To the stars Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 28 2025 5:34 utc | 142 An interesting 8-minute video of Ibrahim Traore speaking on the future of Africa and the need for female leadership in industrialization. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 5:59 utc | 143 My brother, Captain Traore, is the model Muslim man in the spirit of the Prophet SAW, IMO. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 6:01 utc | 144 @ LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 5:59 utc | 143 with the AI of Traore….sigh Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 28 2025 6:09 utc | 145 Some tickers are showing Silver is making a new all time high. Posted by: too scents | Nov 28 2025 6:12 utc | 146 147 Posted by: Orson Cart | Nov 28 2025 6:29 utc | 147 Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 28 2025 6:09 utc | 146 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 6:45 utc | 148 psychohistorian | Nov 28 2025 6:09 utc | 146 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 7:04 utc | 149 144 is me. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 7:11 utc | 150 LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 7:11 utc | 153 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 7:15 utc | 151 Fair enough. You went a bit of the charts there. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 7:19 utc | 152
Excellent summary, Roger. When it comes to trends in the energy sector, there is little doubt which way the wind is blowing. China’s transformation is one of the most dominant factors in this regard.
Posted by: Juan Moment | Nov 28 2025 7:38 utc | 154 Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 28 2025 7:29 utc | 156 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 7:38 utc | 155 Regarding silver, there are many new use cases increasing consumption: Posted by: unimperator | Nov 28 2025 7:55 utc | 157 unimperator | Nov 28 2025 7:55 utc | 160 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 8:05 utc | 158 Data centers down in Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 28 2025 8:11 utc | 159 Apparently CME is going to only open once the bankers can ensure they are able to organize a short attack to hammer silver lower. But eventually that will just fuel it higher. Posted by: unimperator | Nov 28 2025 9:20 utc | 161 I watched/listened to Krainer earlier today. He tends to think the American NABU investigation runs deep and is aimed at exposing the corruption of the EU and the likes of Starmer, Macron and Merz ect. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 9:25 utc | 162 With Yermak now being taken down, the green grub is being taken down. Yermak and green grub link through to London, Macron, and Merz and the Eurotrash of the EU. MI6 and London in particular. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 9:45 utc | 163 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 9:45 utc | 166 Posted by: unimperator | Nov 28 2025 9:53 utc | 164 unimperator | Nov 28 2025 9:53 utc | 167 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 10:10 utc | 165 The house of cards comes down. Posted by: Bingo | Nov 28 2025 12:10 utc | 166 The house of cards comes down. Posted by: Bingo | Nov 28 2025 12:10 utc | 167 Koizumi Jun’ichiro Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 13:05 utc | 169 After US supplied lethal long range missiles to Jp…. Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 13:16 utc | 170 scmp Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 13:18 utc | 171 @Roger Boyd | Nov 28 2025 3:41 utc. Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 28 2025 13:23 utc | 172 Just when South Asia tension heat up again after terrorism erupted in India, Pak, Bangladesh, here comes the Arsonist In Chief to stoke the fire. Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 13:24 utc | 173 Pale faced, forked tongue… Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 13:26 utc | 174 Data from Hamburg states that in this city of 1.8M some 160.000 households are looking for new living quarters, and I am one of them. Don’t worry, I am safe for now. According to a new report, average rents have gone up 8.6% from 2022-24 (N=283,000 !), slightly below official cost of living in the same time frame with 10.4%. These are a downright crazy numbers. Media source / report (both in German). Posted by: persiflo | Nov 28 2025 13:30 utc | 175 The Trump response to the DC shooting of two WV National Guard, sending more troops to DC, turns out to be inadvertently comical: The shooter was apparently from San Diego. Also, the guy was apparently an Afghan collaborator with US invaders, unimpeachably conservative (except for presumed religion and skin color.) Frankly it’s not even clear that troops should have been sent to San Diego instead. It’s clear the point is military operations against the civilian population. That is technically civil war, even if people are aping Buchanan instead of Lincoln. Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 28 2025 14:01 utc | 176 One major aspect of the senescence of Western capitalism: Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 28 2025 14:07 utc | 177 Latest Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 14:48 utc | 178 Xi Jinping was angry on 24 November, and DJT was listening. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 28 2025 14:55 utc | 179 This is another thing the West just doesn’t seem to fucking understand about Putin. People mistakenly assume he operates Russia like how Xi operates China (or how the USSR operated at its economic peak). The establishment politicians in the West are so out-of-touch that they truly think Putin is out there expanding the Russian sphere of influence and hoovering up new countries to join his campaign, and that’s his whole motivation for Ukraine. But it’s simply not reality. Posted by: Zephyrus Blows 🌬️ | Nov 28 2025 14:58 utc | 180 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 28 2025 14:55 utc | 182 Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 15:13 utc | 181 2018 Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 15:32 utc | 182 Friedrich Merz Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 15:42 utc | 183 I believe that our species can learn to live and prosper with each other and set our sights for the future as we did in our past, on the stars. Posted by: juliania | Nov 28 2025 15:51 utc | 184 GHB Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 15:52 utc | 185
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2025 9:25 utc | 165 Posted by: juliania | Nov 28 2025 16:01 utc | 186 The likes of Europe, Russia, China and the US take turns of being popular in Africa, just now its Russia and China turn to be fairly popular. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 28 2025 16:26 utc | 187 @ canuk | Nov 27 2025 20:23 utc | 81 Posted by: james | Nov 28 2025 16:28 utc | 188 The NYT says what we all know. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 28 2025 16:30 utc | 189 Sounds to me like the Danish authorities are shit sacred – that Trumps invades Greenland or find another way to acquire the huge mineral rich landmass. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 28 2025 16:33 utc | 190 I went back and re-read last night. I think the spoof thing did my head in, now I understand that psychohistorian thought it was an AI video. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 16:42 utc | 191 Posted by: Exile | Nov 28 2025 12:23 utc | 171 Posted by: lachaussette | Nov 28 2025 16:58 utc | 192 @ LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 16:42 utc | 194 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 28 2025 17:02 utc | 193 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 28 2025 17:02 utc | 196 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 17:19 utc | 194 Posted by: arby | Nov 28 2025 17:35 utc | 195 NHK Posted by: denk | Nov 28 2025 17:51 utc | 196 “Meloni-san,” Japan’s super “nationalist” new PM, used immigration as the scapegoat to gather her mandate needed for this new hostile-stance against ascending China. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 28 2025 18:33 utc | 197 A note on Canadas involvement in the destruction of Libya. I wrote the following two articles in 2011 exposing Canada and our defense minister. NEWS RELEASE · 22nd September 2011
Nice but this cannot be true Peter
Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Nov 28 2025 18:38 utc | 198 Was the tanker empty or full? and if its the latter was it full of Russian oil/fuel/gas etc. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 28 2025 18:55 utc | 199 @ LoveDonbass | Nov 28 2025 17:19 utc | 197 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 28 2025 18:56 utc | 200 |
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