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November 12, 2025
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Using the word genocide – in an article and it won’t see the light of day.
 
“Journalists working at Britain’s most prestigious newspapers and TV channels have expressed concern at pro-Israel bias inside their organisations. Speaking exclusively to Declassified, half a dozen current and former staff at the BBC, Sky, ITN, the Guardian and the Times have disclosed the extent of anti-Palestinian prejudice in their newsrooms.
All of the journalists requested anonymity for fear of professional reprisals. Despite working for a range of outlets from across the political spectrum, they painted a consistent picture of the obstacles faced by reporters who want to humanise Palestinians or scrutinise Israeli government narratives.
A reporter from the right-wing Times newspaper said: “I literally cried in the bathroom so many times because of the uphill battle of trying to get things reported.” Disgruntled staff at the liberal Guardian have compiled an “exhaustive spreadsheet” with a “mountain of examples” of the paper “amplifying unchallenged Israeli propaganda…or treating clearly false statements by Israeli spokespeople as credible”.
Journalists working in TV studios face a similar struggle, with swift repercussions if guests from the Israeli government are asked difficult questions on air. Declassified was told: “The Israeli narrative always reigned supreme and instructed the coverage at Sky News, no matter how inaccurate”. 
At the BBC, when it comes to reporting accurately on the nature of Israeli conduct in Gaza, a journalist said “the use of the word genocide is effectively banned, and any contributor who uses this word is immediately shut down.” At ITN, which produces news programmes for three British TV channels, the focus is on “clicks not ethical clarity”, a member of staff lamented. “Tragic footage [from Gaza] is often met with…remarks about how much traffic it will generate, as if it’s not real lives being impacted.”
 
‘Battle for the truth’: Pro-Israel bias inside UK newsrooms revealed
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 17:30 utc | 2

drip drip drip…..
more epstein trump e mail?
what’s the dirt?

Posted by: drinky crow | Nov 12 2025 17:37 utc | 3

Interesting stuff, lets hope its not the utter failure that the Zionists squatters Iron Dome is.
 
“While Washington baptizes a $175-billion fantasy, Beijing quietly powers up a functioning prototype that can track a thousand missile launches in real time. One side worships the illusion of safety; the other quietly masters the geometry of survival: the Dragon’s Dome isn’t theatre. It’s circuitry, a living nervous system fusing China’s entire early-warning web into a single field of vision. Built by the Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology, it merges radar, optical and electronic data into one coherent pulse. Every eye in the sky, every ear in the ether now moves in unison. China built what the U.S. can only conceptualize, a working prototype that sees first, learns faster, and costs a fraction of Washington’s next boondoggle.That’s the paradox of the American war economy, it cannot afford peace. The Golden Dome is just its latest delusion, a monument to excess disguised as defense. China and Russia build systems that work; the West builds ones that sell illusion, and line pockets. The Dragon’s Dome seeks not invulnerability but clarity, turning data into deterrence, vigilance into stability. Philosophically, the divide is absolute. The West dreams of erasing vulnerability, of becoming divine through hardware. But to erase vulnerability is to erase balance, to tempt pre-emption, to break the symmetry that kept nuclear fire dormant for half a century. The Dragon’s Dome does not seek invulnerability; it seeks clarity. It turns data into deterrence, vigilance into stability. It watches, calculates, endures. That’s the difference between a civilization that learns and an empire that launders.”
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 17:39 utc | 4

the EU bigwig circle.
 
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 17:28 utc | 1
 

 
They really know how to catch a wave.
 

Posted by: too scents | Nov 12 2025 17:40 utc | 5

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 17:28 utc | 1
 
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It’s not Sinophobia; it is the West trying to rally around protecting the US economy.
 
All of the colonial powers are in an age of madness, cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
 
The power dynamic has changed. No one needs Europe or America in the ROW. China, Russia, the DPRK, and Iran have stepped up to fill the vacuum without debt or sodomy.
 
Truly, what purpose do Brussels or Washington serve to the greater body of humanity?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 17:47 utc | 6

The latest sign of empire Ouroboros from Reuters
 
House Democrats release Epstein papers saying Trump ‘knew about the girls’
 

House Speaker Mike Johnson is scheduled to swear in Democratic Representative-elect Adelita Grijalva on Wednesday to succeed her late father in Congress. Grijalva is expected to provide the final signature needed for a petition to force a House vote to release all unclassified records related to Epstein, something Johnson and Trump have resisted up to now.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 12 2025 17:57 utc | 7

As I have been saying, Epstein as a narrative is going to make a big reappearance.
 
Strategically, from now until the summer is the ideal time to poison the Republicans for the midterms.
 
Trump is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
By revealing Epstein and pursuing people, he would have implicated himself.
 
Now that he did not, he created the perfect storm for the Dems to manufacture innuendo.
 
And Trump’s many nervous, weird statements about the Epstein List are the nails for the coffin.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 18:04 utc | 8

Happy to see a new open thread, so i can dump my ramblings: I find it quite funny how ever more ‘Alternative Media Outlets’, critically reporting about the tectonic shifts in ‘geo politics’, often critical of our economic system, opt to put their musings behind a pay wall.
Be it substack or otherwise hosted and published. As soon as a sufficient base of recurring visitors is achieved, ‘Bills have to be payed’. And suddenly the articles/essays/videos/whatever, ever so often disecting and mocking the modern media landscape of lying mass media and embodied advertisements in form of influencers, become what they once decried: ‘content’. 
 
The blogger/analyst/essayist thus becomes a ‘content creator’. Right into the belly of the machine, imagining having a symbiontic, maybe even parasitic (cleverly opportunistic, it might seem they deem themselves) relationship with said machine; and yet, now they are part of the machine.
 
As such, the newborn ‘creator’ will now have to adhere to the machine’s will, and he will have to shape his creations, ‘the content’, to appease the machine. It doesn’t matter which platform is chosen to host and publish, the ‘laws’ and dynamics are the same for every kind of social media.
 
In this wake: thanks, b, for keeping the lights on and the access open. Places like this are a rare gem in these times.

Posted by: kspr | Nov 12 2025 18:07 utc | 9

Having made another go around at US MSM “news”.  Propaganda?  Complete and total lies?
 
I am starting to understand why Schumer sold out to Trump and gave Trump a huge win.  He is looking at the bright story that Americans believe, and compares it with the bleak reality America faces.  Americans think that the new President of Syria that was honored in the White House is “a leader with a rough background, but mostly decent”.  Americans believe that Ukraine is defeating Russia, that the Russian economy is collapsing, and that the Chinese economy is about to crash and get knocked down a peg.  Americans believe that with a few adjustments and wise decisions by our national leaders, the US will continue to be the sole superpower.
 
Schumer knows that this is not reality.  And that whoever is in charge over the next 2 years will pay a huge price as Americans face one disaster after another over the next few years.  The Schumer Strategy is to make sure that republicans control both houses of Congress after the 2026 elections so that the incoming train runs mostly over republicans.
 
The worst part of the upcoming difficulties that Americans will face is that most will be shocked at the downturns.  WHY DO THEY HATE US?  That was the old question, years after the Iraq war changed the world narrative about the US from the world exclaiming “We are all Americans now.” after 9/11, to Americans wondering “Why do they hate us?” after a bit of the Iraq war.
 
Yeah I am bearish on America these days.  The lies that Americans believe will make it worse.

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 18:19 utc | 10

😀 Colonial Outcasts is back from a hiatus (Mr. Stoker needed a break from participating in the Gaza Flotilla and being arrested, held, then released by Israel), and they are connecting the dots hard! This recent one about Sudan, Congo, & the Israel and UAE connection, namely military arms, mercenary groups training and funding, and resource extraction tying it back to capitalist obfuscation through trans-national systems of exploitation. They also discuss anti-colonial pushback by Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger collaboration and what that could mean for people learning how to fight “the beast: the dynastic private capital hydra” (my term, deliberately tied to eschatology symbolism so as to gently shake people into listening, you can blame me for the dramatic phrasing, with credit to DunGroanin & psychohistorian for concepts of dynasty and private finance being the major culprits).
 
 
Colonial Outcasts: How Israel, the UAE, and the USA Are Redrawing the Map of Power in Africa w/ Molombo
 
 
🙂 I found it useful for clarity, dot connecting, military perspective, and negotiating which lenses and actions seem to be best working. I hope others enjoy it as well. Bye!
/cheep
/flies to the beer garden tree canopy

Posted by: titmouse | Nov 12 2025 18:21 utc | 11

Freedom of the press is not a passport for bias and lies, but the BBC has become one of the most destructive negative examples of this style of journo-abuse in the global media landscape.   When it comes to manipulating footage and malicious editing, the BBC is among the most talented & experienced, ahem, of Western media outlets.
 
“BBC is caught in a ferocious dispute” – this is how many outlets have described the crisis facing the BBC over the past two days. 
 
 
Quick recap:   The British broadcaster has been accused of editing D’JTs speech in a documentary that was aired last year.  The incident has led to the resignations of two senior bosses and DJT said he would sue the BBC for $1 billion in damages.  The Wall Street Journal stated, “As media implosions go, it doesn’t get much worse than the fiasco engulfing the BBC,” while Politico Europe said that the BBC was “in the fight of its life.”
 
 
Too clever by half, the BBC has developed a set of politically manipulative narrative tactics in its reporting when attempting to undermine a known target.  Could be DJT.  Could be VVP and Russia.  Could be China.  The tactics involve using dark filters to create a gloomy menacing mood in still photos—-plus splicing and editing video footage to convey heavy emotions or conflict. A particularly common strategy involves replacing on-site investigation with “anonymous revelations,” in order to export an ideological stance into its pseudo-documentary storytelling. 
 
 
The BBC frequently uses of out-of-context excerpts, sarcastic commentary, and owlish visuals to discredit and vilify its target.
 
 
In the case of China, for instance, the BBC once combined a 2019 satellite image of a location in Xinjiang with a 2020 photo of a factory exterior as supposed “evidence” of “forced labor.” The BBC reportedly hired “actors” to cry on camera about alleged “abuse.” It misrepresented photos of traffic accidents in Xinjiang as evidence of “crackdowns,” and during the Hong Kong “anti-extradition bill protests,” the BBC deleted footage of rioters attempting to snatch a police officer’s gun to create the illusion that “police shot peaceful protesters.”
 
 
In many instances, photo evidence can certainly prove the veracity of an event; jury trials bear this out.   But the deceptive edits which have become common in the court of snap public opinion, like social media snippets, quickly disseminate malicious false impressions.  Even when corrected, the negative taint nonetheless lingers. The upshot is obvious: whoever lies first wins.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 12 2025 18:31 utc | 12

From ZH
 
China’s DeepSeek Issues Rare Warning Of An Incoming AI-Fueled Jobpocalypse
 

At the World Internet Conference in Wuzhen, DeepSeek senior researcher Chen Deli made a rare public appearance late last week, warning that artificial intelligence could wipe out most jobs within the next 10 to 20 years.

 
Two of my long term thoughts come to mind as I have written about the coming job losses myself here before.
 
1.  AD ASTRA  Humanity needs a collective new vision that is both inward and outward focused.
I see the inward focus as the evolution of spiritual values that transcends barbaric patriarchal monotheism and the jackboot of global private finance.
I see the outward focus as embracing our ignorance in a way that challenges us to AD ASTRA (To the stars)
 
2.  As a computer techie building systems for most of my career my mantra was, The Appropriate Application Of Technology
Our new world will need to redefine what us humans get from our governments and what we are required to contribute for those benefits. 
We can chose to apply physical/bodies to tasks instead of machines.  For us in the Northern hemisphere this time of year now has many leaf blowers which I see as a good example of questionable utility given us overweight/out-of-shape humans and the throw away technology used to make that horrible racket.
 
 
Humanity has lots to think about as the opportunity to throw off its class shackles and jackboot of global private finance presents itself courtesy of the China/Russia axis……the shit show continues until it doesn’t.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 12 2025 18:33 utc | 13

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 12 2025 18:33 utc | 13
 
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One of your best mosts I have read.
 
I concur. The future is coming and it is unlikely to look like the Middle Ages.
 
Everything is fluid.
 
The agile and flexible will be the beneficiaries of the next political evolution, Meritocracy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 18:39 utc | 14

posts not mosts.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 18:39 utc | 15

@12 steel_porcupine
 
That has been reality for the last 3 decades in the US for ALL mainstream media outlets.  In case of a tie, the ones that lie the most persistently are the ones that do well.  

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 18:42 utc | 16

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 17:28 utc | 1
Cue the flood of Chinese nationals currently studying in the EU being reduced to a trickle, swiftly followed by a rash of bankruptcies of universities across Europe.
IOW EU carefully lays out a rake on the ground, then steps on it.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 12 2025 18:43 utc | 17

@17 ChatNPC
 
I read some the of MSM articles, and I shake my head with disbelief.  Your post would be funny if it were in a movie, or in a play.  Less funny as reality.

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 18:48 utc | 18

“Moscow Just Gave Venezuela Air Defenses, Not Ruling Out Strike Missiles: Russian Official”
 
https://www.twz.com/news-features/moscow-just-gave-venezuela-air-defenses-not-ruling-out-strike-missiles-russian-official

Posted by: WMG | Nov 12 2025 19:04 utc | 19

Does AI have a sense of humour or the ability to identify irony?
 
If it doesn’t, will it take itself too seriously to become reliable or useful?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 12 2025 19:07 utc | 20

from Berletic–
 
And yes, Russia is equally wrong for inviting this US proxy/terrorist to Moscow, but it was the US who created this monster, deliberately – spanning the Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden administrations equally. Russia is weak, over-extended (whether you want to accept it or not), could not stop US regime change in Syria and now has no choice but to play along – the US deliberately created this monster and is throwing its role in creating/backing the WORST so-called “Islamo” extremists on Earth in the face of its own racist, ignorant support base – and that support base will do NOTHING.

Posted by: arby | Nov 12 2025 19:10 utc | 21

 LoveDonbass (6).
 
To me its a form of Sinophobia – in similar fashion as to what’s happening with Russia – yes the economic aspect is prevalent, however we’ve had decades of anti-China stories, and in the last 48 hours one of the BBC’s main stories was a bridge collapsing in China – China bad stories,  always find their way to near the top of the Wests propaganda media.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:11 utc | 22

ChatNPC (17).
 
I live in Glasgow – and for the past say 10 years many Chinese students have come to Glasgow to study – usually medicine, anyway – this year numbers are down, then I read an article – that Chinese students don’t feel comfortable studying in not just Glasgow,  but the West in general, the article said that many are now staying home to go to their own Uni’s to learn.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:15 utc | 23

 too scents (5).
 
They’re not even hiding it anymore – the West does what it does best, it steals – like Russia’s frozen assets in Europe – the Dutch stealing the chip company Nexperia, though they are supposed be handing it back to China as China stopped sending chips to it, we have the Brits stealing Venezuela’s gold, and the US terrorist state stealing Afghanistan’s gold
 
We can say that European Imperialist countries – have been stealing from the Global South for centuries now – add to the list the Yanks who are stealing left right and centre from multiple countries – like Imperialist Europe they been doing that long that they can’t stop. 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:21 utc | 24

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 17:39 utc | 4
Neither China nor anyone else can build a lithium ion battery that won’t spontaneously combust. Ronnie Raygun reincarnated as Elon Musk might as well be president of the universe. if the global Zionist cocksuckers from DC to London to Moscow to Beijing would just “die with a little patience,” they could do missile command and space farce on the moon, with the rest of the universe at a safe distance from the mushroom clouds blossoming in everyone’s invidious eyes. Envious of what? children deciding for themselves the future. “The future Mr Gittes,” as Noah Cross said in Chinatown, in between raping kids like Messiah Trump.

Posted by: duck n cover | Nov 12 2025 19:22 utc | 25

@ Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:15 utc | 23
 
There really are only four reasons for Chinese to study in the West: (1) the need for immersion in an exclusively English-speaking environment; (2) intensive one-on-one study with a professor (usually a virtuoso in a music school); (3) insufficient qualification/credentials for admission to Chinese universities, which are anyway more rigorous; (4) superior access to bling.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 12 2025 19:24 utc | 26

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 12 2025 18:31 utc | 12
numerous people have pointed out how Trump’s Zionist allies run the BBC. all on the same team. that’s why you post this meaningless bullshit about how the president of the US is facing “media bias” and “manipulation.” not Hamas or Iran or VZ or Palestine Action, Trump is the victim the media slander machine. As we celebrate Big Bro’s “anti-communist hate week”. 
 
how many fluffers work at Mar A Lago? when they get a break from “raising Messiah Trump’s horn and blowing his shofar”, they jump on the keyboard to earn their IDF pay. 

Posted by: duck n cover | Nov 12 2025 19:28 utc | 27

 malenkov (26).
 
From the Chinese  students I’ve seen in my home town, I’d say number 4 fits the bill – they have student accommodation built for them it has every mod con you can think of – so I’d imagine they are paying through the nose for it.
 
I take it there must be some not so well to do Chinese students in Glasgow, for the Chinese government paid to have a huge block of students flats again with all the mod cons – built in Glasgow’s West End.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:37 utc | 28

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 18:19 utc | 10
The only certain outcome of that scenario will be to make the US ready for full-tilt populism and this time cynical MAGAism won’t be sufficient. A leader on the right with intelligence and belief with an ideological vision (wha’s dat? asks Trump…) who is to a degree actually not corrupt (rather than simple appearing so), would sweep the field. Trump is the fake conservative populist fielded by a liberal oligarchy in order to neutralise the possibility of a resurgent working class consciousness in the USA. The suspicion of the masses that all is seriously not right to which you allude can only channel itself along two paths: one, the easy path of superstition (fascistic exceptionalism and essentialism), or two, the harder but better path, solidarity and socialism. It needs organic intellectuals for either of these paths to be truly defining. Since there are no organic intellectuals remaining on the left (and left academia is hopelessly compromised, weak or simply masquerading hacks—i.e. most of my colleagues), the field is open for a real right wing intellectual to emerge. Now I’m not talking about the BAP crowd on X or substack. Any right movement with links to Israel is a liberal oligarchic psyop. If you can have a serious philosophical program rather than just an easy-bake redneck white supremacism, one that can offer a ‘nationalist socialism’ customised for the US, with a touch of messianic Christianity (but not evangelical Protestantism), and one that was immune to liberal oligarchic efforts to be bought off, etc, then that would be powerful. I wonder if a Tucker-Fuentes partnership could deliver it (I have my doubts, but it’s close). Of course for myself I would wish for a true-left populism, but I suspect the historical moment for that was the 20th century and since then the strategies to prevent the emergence of social solidarity have been very successful—social media, fragmentation of the self, the criminalisation of public gathering, the making of the indebted man, identity politics, the de-education of the masses, the privatisation of public institutions, etc etc. So, I feel the New Deal conditions of the 1930s will never replicate themselves, the Dems and GOP are largely batting for the same side, and the only intellectual force capable of taking on liberal ideology is currently on the right. If the working poor are going to be mobilised it will be along the path of superstition and mystification.

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 12 2025 19:39 utc | 29

Chinese students don’t feel comfortable studying in not just Glasgow, but the West in general, the article said that many are now staying home to go to their own Uni’s to learn.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:15 utc | 23
 
I’ve seen it reported anecdotally that Chinese universities and employers no longer value Western qualifications with much esteem, particularly in STEM or medical subjects, leading to students in these fields staying in their domestic universities and academic institutions.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 12 2025 19:45 utc | 30

“Neither China nor anyone else can build a lithium ion battery that won’t spontaneously combust.”
 
duck n cover (25).
 
I never said they could, don’t get me wrong I’m not pro-Chinese, I’m not pro-any country, with the exception of my own Scotland – and Scotland is deep in the shit right now, nothing to boast about – however much of the West appears  to be openly backing the genocide in Gaza – by supplying the Zionists – that I cannot not overlook, nobody should, but its happening – soon we’ll have Modi (India) purging Muslims from India, and Erdogan (Turkey) genociding the Kurds, and so on, all pointing to the West condoning the genocide in Gaza –  ie if you can do it without repercussions so can we – from there is just one step to a free for all.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:46 utc | 31

@ 1
 
Reported in the Financial Times today was that Germany is now importing more capital goods from China than it exports to China. That kind of blew my mind, the Germans being known for, well, mechanical sophistication. Germany’s economy is increasingly in shambles, so it might just be using the EU to protect itself and its key industries (this is not to excuse them, as the path we are all on is one toward imperialist war, these being the first steps along that path).
 
China, when I was growing up, used to be known for shoddy workmanship, low quality, cheap goods. But while the price level hasn’t changed much, the quality certainly has. Chinese engineering is very close to par with western engineering, and in some places has far surpassed it. It’s the racism against Chinese people that has western imperialists thinking they can change the course of history on China’s ascendance. They really believe that Chinese are “high IQ but not creative”. We are increasingly seeing how bullshit that is. There are scant scientific, medical, and engineering breakthroughs in the 21st century that don’t have a Chinese name on them somewhere.

Posted by: fnord | Nov 12 2025 19:48 utc | 32

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang (30).
 
That would account for the falling numbers of Chinese students in my home town – many Chinese student used to attend the University of Glasgow’s Anderson’s College of Medicine within the uni – but I’ve noticed recently that, their numbers have declined.
 
Dr David Livingstone studied medicine at the college, and apparently the tree under which a lion savaged him is housed within the college – though I’ve never entered the building – I’ve admired its fantastic reliefs and sculptures on the outside, of the building.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:53 utc | 33

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:11 utc | 22
 
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I don’t believe in antisemitism, Russophobia, or Sinophobia.
 
All are weak and don’t address the point.
 
The point is that many Westerners are arrogant (it’s a cultural thing) and have a superiority complex. It’s been that way for a millennium.
 
Superiority complexes. I don’t know if it is aesthetic or spiritual. They think they are better than everyone else. See Josep Borrell talking about the ROW as the jungle and Europe as “the garden”.
 
Name-calling is weak stuff. In conflicts, people have to work themselves up against an opponent, particularly if the opponent would pose no threat if left undisturbed.
 
The Empire and colonialism at large cannot thrive, leaving the ROW undisturbed. Without the aggression of theft and confiscation, the Empire would wither and fade.
 
I don’t like the Russians crying about Russophobia. I think that’s a weak frame to adopt.
 
Better to call out the evil of the West and say that Russians (as a culture) oppose that. No one is elevated by playing victim.
 
The same thing goes for “Islamophobia”. Islam is an ideology, not a racial group. You can’t be born into Islam. The majority of the world’s Muslims are in Southeast Asia (hundreds of millions), not West Asia.
 
Russia and China have many, many ethnic subgroups. To be Russian isn’t or Chinese isn’t a specific or exclusive racial proposition.
 
Maybe I am too autistic. I think one should be precise with language so that one can be unequivocally correct or incorrect.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 19:54 utc | 34

 fnord (32).
 
Yes, I’ve noticed more and more Chinese built car on the roads – and believe it or not – Jeremy Clarkson (love him or loathe him) in a Top Gear episode (old one) went to China with his co-presenter James May, they tested Chinese cars from 20 years ago, and they mocked them as they usually do  – to give Clarkson his due, he said in the programme that at the speed China was developing its automotive industries – that we’d be mostly be driving Chinese cars in a couple of decades, he hasn’t been that far off on that quote.
 
Germany is actively destroying it own economy to bolster that of Ukraine’s cutting themselves off from Russian oil – was a disaster – it is the right kind of oil (viscosity etc) for the German industries machines, Merz is determined to give Ukraine billions more in Euro’s at great expense to German citizens and public services.
For me the EU should be dissolved.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 20:03 utc | 35

@29 Patroklos
 
I agree with you.  If any US populist group overthrows our current corporate rulers, it will be from the right.  The interesting things they will have to deal with are questions like:  How do we provide decent health care to our citizens?  How do we provide electricity, heat, and a/c at prices competitive with the Chinese?  How do we get factories built in the US, and how do we deal with its by products like waste materials and pollution?  How do we get farming to where our farmers don’t have to buy annual seeds from Monsanto?  Heck how can we produce an economic system where family farmers can compete successfully with billionaire farmers?  And how do we transition from what we have, to what we eventually want?
 
These are not simple questions.  
 
I listen to right wing leaders with interest.  My interpretation is:  in a given speech, 50%-100% is bashing the mostly non-existent US left, people like me, which I ignore.  The remainder of what they say, the actual proposals and ideas that they want to implement, is what is interesting.  Many of their idea are far to the left of anything the democrat party has ever tried to enact, and is music to my ears.  Right now, they only talk about specific problems that they would like to solve.  Completely insufficient for replacing our current system, and only a small start.  It is still too early to count on right wing populism to make things better.  But they are starting to think about the problem.  It is one thing to destroy things that you think are bad.  It is quite another to replace them with something that makes the nation better.

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 20:10 utc | 36

“antiSemitism, Russophobia, or Sinophobia.”
 
“The point is that many Westerners are arrogant (it’s a cultural thing) and have a superiority complex”
 
Love Donbas (34).
 
Isn’t the above a form of what you say doesn’t exist.
 
 “They think they are better than everyone else. See Josep Borrell talking about the ROW as the jungle and Europe as “the garden”.”
 
Erm… the above can generally be translated to a phobia/racism
 
“The same thing goes for “Islamophobia”. Islam is an ideology, not a racial group”
 
The problem with the above, is that most people are too afraid to criticise Islam for the fear of a violent reprisal – while the many countries won’t want to prosecute such attacks – for fear of a backlash.
 
“Maybe I am too autistic. I think one should be precise with language so that one can be unequivocally correct or incorrect.”
 
Again on the above – only MSM propaganda news outlets are precise in their wording – to fool the masses.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 20:12 utc | 37

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 20:12 utc | 37
 
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1. I don’t follow (that which does not exist).
 
2. “Generally translated” isn’t very precise.
 
3. If one knew any Muslims or anything about Islam, being scared of Muslims is literally retarded. There is a reason why it is the “Religion of Peace”.
 
4. Confusing (?) accuracy with the MSM is weird, like the guy who tried to tell me I can’t use maths because their 7th-grade teacher told them that maths can be used to manipulate. Apparently, 1+1 = 2 is full of lies 😂😂😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 20:23 utc | 38

Patrokolos and WA – Agree with you both … the dynamic popular political energy nationally is on the right. I don’t think there’s any hope of socialism on a national level. 
But I also think this is a good thing, because localism is actually what may be achievable and may save us in the long run. So what needs to happen is to ride the populist right to minimization of the DC empire and, at the same time, replace it with the fifty states that were always supposed to be where the action was politically in this country.
So let’s have a California (and similar states) with Medicare for all, robust social security for all,  progressive taxation, minimal foreign interference, etc. and other states go their own way. Democratic and doable. 

Posted by: Caliman | Nov 12 2025 20:35 utc | 39

Nigeria’s Foreign Minister Tuggar Must Go
(He is a Monument to Ineptitude and National Humiliation.)
 
If there were a contest for the most clueless foreign minister in Africa, Nigeria’s Yusuf Tuggar would take the gold medal, with the silver and bronze going to his aides.
 
Yusuf Tuggar’s reign at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is nothing short of a diplomatic tragedy. This unmitigated disaster has plunged Africa’s most populous nation into unprecedented ridicule and irrelevance.
 
In a vitriolic release in January, the man has the gall to accuse his critics of being “ill-informed or disingenuous.” As I replied to him, “One must wonder what they serve in Abuja that makes our officials so arrogant, so intoxicated by the fumes of their own failure that they can no longer recognize the stench of national embarrassment they emit.“
 
No, Mr. Minister, we are neither ill-informed nor disingenuous. We are simply tired of watching Nigeria — the supposed Giant of Africa — stumble from one foreign policy fiasco to another under your watch.
You can read it here: https://femiakogun.substack.com/p/my-reply-to-nigerias-foreign-minister?r=3wwyw
It is hard to recall a period when Nigeria’s foreign policy was as invisible, hollow, and comatose as it is today.
 
From being the proud standard-bearer of African diplomacy under the likes of Joe Garba, Akinyemi, and Gambari, Nigeria has now been reduced to a geopolitical ghost, a nation others neither fear, respect, nor even notice.
 
Under Tuggar’s sterile stewardship, Nigeria has become the regional errand boy for Western capitals — a faithful vassal of Paris and London, taking instructions from the very forces that still loot the continent through financial trickery and military manipulation.
 
Yet, for our servility, we have been rewarded with contempt. An example is Trump’s threat to invade Nigeria. Something that would have been unthinkable a few years ago.
 
Let’s start with the ECOWAS catastrophe. History will not forget the Tinubu government that was in power when three member states withdrew from the organization. Niger, Mali, and Burkina Faso — three proud African nations — chose to form their own alliance, the Alliance of Sahel States, rather than continue taking orders from an ECOWAS that Nigeria’s misplaced ambitions had hijacked as a faithful lackey of Western puppetry.
 
Never in the history of the subregion has the organization suffered such an existential rupture. And this disaster unfolded under the chairmanship of Nigeria’s president and the watch of its foreign minister—the man with the big mouth that was designed only to insult.
 
The Yoruba say: “Ọba tí ìlú bá toro níjọ rè, orúkọ rè kò ní parẹ; ẹnì tí ìlú bá fọnka níjọ rè, orúkọ rè náà kò ní parẹ.” The king under whose reign the land prospers will be remembered — and so will the one under whose rule it fell apart.
 
Mr. Tuggar, your name and that of your principal will be remembered for presiding over the disintegration of ECOWAS. You did not just lose three countries; you lost Nigeria’s moral authority in West Africa and on the continent.
 
Read the full article here: https://femiakogun.substack.com/p/nigerias-foreign-minister-tuggar
Watch the Video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/eWdGaa5sJ5A
 
©️ Femi Akomolafe (1st Dan)
My Mission: Ignorantia et stultitia delendae sunt / Ignorance and stupidity must be destroyed.
Blog: https://femiakogun.substack.com

Posted by: Femi | Nov 12 2025 20:37 utc | 40

Re the BBC – all TV broadcasters, public or private, all around the world seek to misdirect, manipulate and brainwash (sorry: entertain, educate and inform) according to the orders of their owners  – it’s a feature of the medium.
Sure the BBC deserves a kicking but no more or less than any other TV station.
I posted a link in the last OT outlining the Dark Truth behind this particular episode of performative pearl clutching.
Long story short, it’s part of manoeuvres on the Eighth Front by the Unohus.
‘Your anger, their agenda’.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 12 2025 20:38 utc | 41

I can imagine that the beam weapons to shoot down satellites may become hacked. I dont know how far it has advanced but when they have such weapons in space orbit they could probably destroy a mass of satellites. If they are not safe against hackers this could become quite an issue.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 12 2025 20:41 utc | 42

@ Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:53 utc | 33
 
And declining numbers of full fee-paying Chinese students can build up a funding time-bomb for a lot of Western academic institutions.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 12 2025 20:44 utc | 43

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 12 2025 20:41 utc | 42
Well, muh gubbermint* hires the best hackers as a matter of policy.
I do hope they are familiar with the Kessler syndrome.
*fill in your nation here

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 12 2025 20:45 utc | 44

– Are tensions between and China also rising ? Is Japan being pushed by its american master ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/11/japan-china-row-takaichi-taiwan-conflict-military-deployment
 
– The dispute is not only over Taiwan but also over e.g. the Senkaku islands.
https://fpif.org/parsing-east-asian-powder-keg/

Posted by: WMG | Nov 12 2025 20:46 utc | 45

Extra information for a previous post (#45).
 
 
Researcher Kimie Hara has written some interesting papers: https://apjjf.org/Kimie-HARA/4142

Posted by: WMG | Nov 12 2025 20:50 utc | 46

– Resources in the Artic: https://apjjf.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/article-308.pdf

Posted by: WMG | Nov 12 2025 20:51 utc | 47

“3. If one knew any Muslims or anything about Islam, being scared of Muslims is literally retarded. There is a reason why it is the “Religion of Peace”.”
 
LoveDonbass (38).
 
Tell that to this guy who burnt a Quran and almost paid for it with his life – no one, and I mean no one – should be attacked for burning a book.
 
Rikki Doolan (@realrikkidoolan): “Man attacked with knife for burning Quran in London, full footage. We can’t have a society where people are almost killed for burning books.” | nitter.poast.org

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 20:53 utc | 48

@ChatNPC | Nov 12 2025 20:45 utc | 44
Yes the debris is an enormous problem but if the perpetrator is a government they will be concerned about hitting their own precious toys. The debris would mostly have unpredictable trajectories so that really is a concern.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 12 2025 20:55 utc | 49

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang (43).
 
Yes that is happening right now – the Chinese student spent a lot of money in the community, that has now been reduced, uni’s are looking towards attracting other countries  students – maybe India, if not some professors and their classes will be dropped

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 20:55 utc | 50

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 20:10 utc | 36
Yes, well put. A massive dilemma the solution to which is hamstrung by an archaic Constitution and hijacked political system. Perhaps only a catastrophic war—absit omen!—will create the conditions. But I wonder whether the wars of the 20th century are even possible anymore… 

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 12 2025 20:57 utc | 51

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 20:53 utc | 48
 
#####
 
I don’t believe in using violence at all. It is stupid. That said, in a city rife with knife crime and a growing ROW diaspora, it is the height of stupidity to burn a holy book.
 
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. More often than not, such events are ginned up to generate sympathy for Israel, like American Jews spray painting swastikas…
 
Again, it sounds like you don’t know much about Islam or have any interactions with Muslims IRL.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 21:00 utc | 52

LoveDonbass (38).
 
As if to prove my point in my (37) comment – the knife wielding man walk free from court.
 
Now imagine,  if  – I or you attack a man with a knife who was burning a bible – would we be so lucky as to walk free from court?
 
Man spared jail over attacking Quran-burning protester – BBC News

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 21:02 utc | 53

LoveDonbass (52).
 
Okay I’ll ask you right out, is it okay to burn a Quran, yes or no?

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 21:04 utc | 54

Neither China nor anyone else can build a lithium ion battery that won’t spontaneously combust. 
 
Posted by: duck n cover | Nov 12 2025 19:22 utc | 25
 
********
 
Sorry – Researchers from the Institute of Physics of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) appear to have solved the problem:
 
https://english.cas.cn/newsroom/cas_media/202510/t20251010_1088986.shtml
 
… producing an all-solid-state Lithium ion battery. Read the article, follow the links to the primary source Nature paper, review the articles that reference or cite the primary paper – and maybe update and modify your assessment. 
 
“Never” never allows much wriggle room, ever…
 
 

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 12 2025 21:08 utc | 55

Former Norwegian (failed) Prime Minister, Stoltenberg buddy and responsible for the Obama Nobel Peace Prize is mentioned by Jeffrey Epstein in a 2014 email
🇺🇸 Jeffrey Epstein to former Obama attorney Kathy Ruemmler

“girls?.. careful I will renew an old habit.”
“..this week, Thiel, Summers, Bill Burns, Gordon Brown, Jagland (Council of Europe and Nobel Chairman), Mongolia Pres, Hardeep Purece (India), Boris (Gates), Jabor (Qatar), Sultan (Dubai), Kosslyn (Harvard)…”

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/50711
 
Ask me if I am surprised.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 12 2025 21:09 utc | 56

Ghost of Epstein just doesn’t want to go away.

BREAKING:
 
 Jeffrey Epstein proposes girls to Palantir CEO, Former UK Prime Minister, Emirates and Qatari officials etc. Jeffrey Epstein, in an email to former attorney Kathy Ruemmler, proposes “girls” to Chairman of Palantir Peter Thiel, former CIA Director and Ambassador to Russia William Burns, Former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown, former Norwegian Prime Minister Thorbjorn Jagland, former Mongolian President Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj, among others, including Emirates, Indian and Qatari officials. Ruemmler served as Obama’s Deputy Council during both of his Presidential terms.
 

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1988715221431488890

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 12 2025 21:14 utc | 57

@Norwegian | Nov 12 2025 21:09 utc | 56
 
It is Thorbjørn Jagland to those who didn’t know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorbj%C3%B8rn_Jagland

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 12 2025 21:14 utc | 58

And declining numbers of full fee-paying Chinese students can build up a funding time-bomb for a lot of Western academic institutions.
 
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 12 2025 20:44 utc | 43

 
Just imagine if the academics ended up right down to the very last funding option … providing a service to their own community.

Posted by: Tel | Nov 12 2025 21:16 utc | 59

“Neither China nor anyone else can build a lithium ion battery that won’t spontaneously combust.” duck n cover (25). I never said they could, don’t get me wrong I’m not pro-Chinese, 
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:46 utc | 31
 
**************
 
Well, I just did! But does that make me pro- or anti- China?
 
One does not need to be pro- or anti- anything to be able to apply logic and reason and recognise reality. However, if one is pro- or anti- something it can hamper that same ability…

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 12 2025 21:18 utc | 60

Name-calling is weak stuff. 
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 19:54 utc | 34
 
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Yes. And when a name-caller’s strongest point is their consistency in misspelling a poster’s handle, it is indeed a sad state of affairs…

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 12 2025 21:22 utc | 61

 Tel (59).
 
Yes another very good point – uni’s are mainly self-serving – some have been caught out investing in arms firms linked to Israel – another downside is that uni’s actively push for student accommodation to be built over social housing and have more sway with housing associations, to sell the land to private developers – uni’s students tend not care as much about their local communities as citizens who live their permanently.
 
In Scotland – the likes of the University of Glasgow and Edinburgh are safe houses for the English security services.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 21:25 utc | 62

Just imagine if the academics ended up right down to the very last funding option … providing a service to their own community.

Posted by: Tel | Nov 12 2025 21:16 utc | 59
 
Might make it difficult for the Dean and other senior staff to command/demand six-figure salaries and generous pension provisions, not to mention the knighthoods and lordships that previously came their way…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 12 2025 21:26 utc | 63

“Well, I just did! But does that make me pro- or anti- China?”
 
General Factotum (60).
 
I never said it did,  what’s your point if you have one? Can someone not express if they are pro-something or not – an example, I’m not pro-Israeli either does that hamper my ability and  logic?

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 21:30 utc | 64

another downside is that uni’s actively push for student accommodation to be built over social housing

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 21:25 utc | 62
 
Yes, I’ve seen that happen locally, in my nearest big cities of Bath and Bristol. An added wrinkle (that developers like) as that student accommodation is exempt from some planning provisions regarding kitchen and bathroom space, which means that more units can be fitted into a given footprint, but makes conversion to conventional rentable units very costly.
 
I’ll have to check, but I’ve a sneaking suspicion that student housing development is also exempt from Section 106 contributions to the development of wider community facilities.
 
Student housing development is a massive scam in many ways.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 12 2025 21:37 utc | 65

Just imagine if the academics ended up right down to the very last funding option … providing a service to their own community.
Posted by: Tel | Nov 12 2025 21:16 utc | 59
 
***********
 
An even more absurd* proposition “Just imagine if the university management allowed – or even facilitated – the academics in their efforts to provide a service to their own community.”
 
*The proposition is not absurd. Under present management structures, it is the expectation that is absurd.

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 12 2025 21:38 utc | 66

@ patroklos, caliman, woke
 
The social contagion of the Frankfurt school has infiltrated the left to such a degree that, yes, it lacks true energy and movement. A stiff wind or microaggression could blow it over.
 
But I am very skeptical of this newfangled consortium of Tucker, Fuentes, Owens, et. al.. Just as I am skeptical of everything I see on AWS cloudhosting servers.
 
Trump satisfies the boogeyman image needed to make the left think of itself as truly oppositional. This seems like half the battle: to engage the people in these identitarian paddocks. Stoking the fear of brute force deportations, even though any serious attempt at deportations would have to include the fining and criminalizing of employing and housing illegals, which, to my knowledge has been nonexistent.
 
I am afraid that the far more likely design is to keep the left-right appearance of social discourse in play by hook or crook. Gavin Newsome will probably reverse the extremely modest gains of brown infiltration and the new security apparatus Palantir will be in place for when the economic collapse can finally occur. Browns don’t care about the working towards freedom or what the constitution is supposed to inhibit (mainly the overgrowth of central control).
 
If I was an out-of-touch elite, I would want the most pliable population possible, especially those most susceptible to the lure of free things like universal basic income or foodstamps.
 
But that’s my blackpilled take. My worldview is the product of compounding disappointment. I would love to be proven wrong and feel the whirling opportunity of catastrophe and central planners admitting defeat. Not too far off from Lenin’s revolutionary defeatism.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 12 2025 21:41 utc | 67

Addendum: not sure if S106 directly applies in Scotland or whether there is an equivalent measure requiring developers to contribute to, say, a park and children’s recreation area, or funding bus routes to serve the development.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 12 2025 21:42 utc | 68

🇺🇸🇷🇺 Epstein tried to reach Sergei Lavrov through former Norwegian Prime Minister Thorbjørn Jagland.
He claimed to have known Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s late UN envoy who died in 2017.
The discussion centered on Trump.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/165284
 
Jagland thanks Epstein “for a lovely evening”
Jagland is close to Stoltenberg, but lower IQ.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 12 2025 21:49 utc | 69

Gonzalo Preto, Colombian President, is willing to take on Trump: Gustavo Petro, the Rebel Turned President Willing to Take on Trump – The New York Times
Of course, the Times tones his comments way down, but here’s some good stuff: “A clan of pedophiles wants to destroy our democracy. To keep Epstein’s list from coming out, they send warships to kill fishermen and threaten our neighbor with invasion for their oil. They want to turn the region into another Libya, full of slaves.” Al-Qaeda in the Oval Office: A New Phase of the Global Disorder
It gets even better if you can read it in Spanish–Petro outlines the Empire’s whole plan. One section: “The president recalled that his first debates in Congress were directed against Alberto Moreno, brother of the U.S. senator, whom he accused of having participated in acts of corruption and money laundering; including the robbery of the Banco del Pacífico and the illegal conversion of environmentally sensitive land in the Sabana de Bogotá.” Un clan de pedófilos quiere acabar la democracia en Colombia: Petro

Posted by: JohnH | Nov 12 2025 22:00 utc | 70

I never said it did,  what’s your point if you have one? Can someone not express if they are pro-something or not – an example, I’m not pro-Israeli either does that hamper my ability and  logic?
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 21:30 utc | 64
 
*****
 
Sorry, your response came as a surprise. I was actually supporting your statement. My point was that stating a fact does not make one pro- or anti- anything. An opinion could be interpreted otherwise. 
 
Certainly: anyone should be free to express whether they are pro-something or not. I apologise if my comment appeared to constrain that freedom.
 
And no, just for the sake of clarity, I don’t think that not being pro-Israeli either  hampers your ability and logic. I am ‘anti’ the Zionist government of the State of Israel, but I am very supportive (‘pro’?) of my two Israeli friends – and most of their extended families.

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 12 2025 22:01 utc | 71

@67 NemesisCalling
 
In line with the main thrust of your post, I think that Americans will have 2+ generations of widespread poverty.  It will take a long time for Americans to unlearn all the crap that we “know”.  I would say that I am more pessimistic than you are.

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 22:10 utc | 72

Posted by: fnord | Nov 12 2025 19:48 utc | 32
older folks that remember the days when “made in china” or “made in Taiwan” equalled garbage don’t really understand how things are sourced there and believe the old paradigm without seeing how things have changed.
 
I have experience sourcing certain things from China for resale and it’s a matter of cost like anything else. If you want a top quality product, they’ll make it for you. If you want a cheap product to undercut a competitor with a low cost item, they’ll make that for you as well.
 
 The quality of material and workmanship depends on price.
 
 Some things I source for reasonable prices are easily the best that I can get anywhere.
 
 You get what you pay for.

Posted by: Archetypex | Nov 12 2025 22:11 utc | 73

—❗️🇺🇸 BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein wrote an email to New York Times journalist Thomas Jr. Landon in December 2015, stating:
‘Ask my houseman, about Donald [Trump] almost walking through the door leaving his nose print on the glass, as young women were swimming in the pool. He was so focused on them that he walked straight into the door.’

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/25409
 
Trump deserves to be outed, but I suppose the timing of these releases are designed to remove his power so the wars can keep going (ref. Krainier theory that Trump acts to stop wars, even if his rhetoric is all over the place).
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 12 2025 22:12 utc | 74

3 etc al
 
Max Blumenthal of the Greyzone very illuminating tonight re DT Epstein on George Galloway MOATS tonight YouTube.

Posted by: Jo | Nov 12 2025 22:17 utc | 75

As if to prove my point in my (37) comment – the knife wielding man walk free from court.
 
Now imagine, if – I or you attack a man with a knife who was burning a bible – would we be so lucky as to walk free from court?
 
Man spared jail over attacking Quran-burning protester – BBC News
 
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 21:02 utc | 53
 
######
 
What does it have to do with Islam if a Zionist colonizer court lets someone walk or not?
 
If you operate mostly in emotion, then I probably can’t have a reasoned discourse with you. If you operate with logic, then we can find a middle ground and common facts, making some progress towards the truth.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 22:17 utc | 76

MCN, a motorcycle magazine based in the UK does reviews of motorcycles and comparisons. 
With European brands like KTM, Aprilia, Triumphs, Ducatis, beemers it’s always look at the bling on these things!!! 6 Axis IMUs, 10in TFTs, Brembo this n that. 
Japanese? Heavy, not the highest HP or Torque, not bling, no cruise control.  omg!!!! NO MODES! Cables controlled throttle and brakes, rubbish OEM rubbers.
Chinese? Snigger! Oh, bang for buck but you get what you pay for and we encourage peasants to feel like they too can enjoy being part of the biking “family”.
Harley,  well even the Yanks struggle putting lipstick on that pig.
Rarely you see comments about things that really matter- reliability, value, longevity, parts availability, ease of maintenance. 
 
Point is PR bullshit sells and we’re often reminded of how Russia and China fails on PR front.  
 
Really? Or are you one of those who keeps falling for the PR BS?

Posted by: Suresh | Nov 12 2025 22:18 utc | 77

@39 Caliman
 
Thank you for that post.  Thank you very much.
 
That sounds doable, and with a shot at success.  Localization, I guess, will be my favorite word for a while 🙂

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 12 2025 22:18 utc | 78

Correction @70 Gustavo Preto

Posted by: JohnH | Nov 12 2025 22:26 utc | 79

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:11 utc | 22
Re: Bridge in China.
 
I noticed the choice of language across the MSM. They specifically mentioned (in headlines and ticker tape on TV) the “bridge collapse”, and that it had only been open for several months, but left the important detail of the landslide that precipitated the collapse buried in the text below.
 
It’s just another reflection of the overwhelming anti-China bias in the western media, and their constant perpetuation of the myth that everything China does or makes is of inferior quality.
 
If it happened in the West, you could be assured that the headline would be “Unprecedented landslide causes bridge collapse tragedy” or similar.
 
Meanwhile, China carries on building a nation that serves its citizenry not the financial parasite class alone.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 12 2025 22:33 utc | 80

If you operate with logic, then we can find a middle ground and common facts, making some progress towards the truth.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2025 22:17 utc | 76
 
************
 
I like the analogy of the development of knowledge and understanding with Bayesian mathematics/logic/probability. Bayes’ Theorem  determines the probability of an event ‘A’ given the probability of an event ‘B’ for events ‘A’ and ‘B’ that are not mutually independent. More concisely, Bayes’ Theorem provides a mathematical rule for inverting conditional probabilities, allowing the probability of a cause to be found given its effect. In other words; if, when, how event ‘B’ occurs it will affect the probability of ‘A’ occurring.
 
In thought processes, event ‘B’ can be considered the receipt of new information – which in certain cases will affect ‘A’, the understanding based on prior knowledge. Sort of a fancy, convoluted explanation for what some people in the past have referred to as ‘learning’.
 
If information (‘B’) and an enquiring mind (‘A’) are mutually independent, then ‘B’ has no discernable effect on ‘A’. This is also sort of a fancy, convoluted explanation for what some people in the past have referred to as ‘remaining ignorant’.
 
Think like a Bayesian!

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 12 2025 22:44 utc | 81

When UK over many years has berated Huawei, accused China of spying via their chips in very many pieces of equipment politicians accused them of spying in universities and virtually banned them by association, hysterically accused China of nasty stuff when contracts were being made regarding nuclear power stations, endlessly delays China building a new Embassy in London , seen many UK universities establish campus and connections in China, it’s paranoia goes off the scales.Maybe it just wants Chinese visitors to buy tourist goods in London and leave quickly.

Posted by: Jo | Nov 12 2025 22:48 utc | 82

Epstein was fixing up “girls” for Peter Thiel? But Thiel likes boys…as far as we know. Or maybe Epstein had a few boys tucked away for service too? Or maybe Thiel is like Sam Altman: rapes his sister, goes gay…

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 12 2025 22:54 utc | 83

Maybe it just wants Chinese visitors to buy tourist goods in London and leave quickly.
 
Posted by: Jo | Nov 12 2025 22:48 utc | 82
 
 
________
 
 
And maybe savvy Chinese tourists will start avoiding the UK…

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 12 2025 22:55 utc | 84

Norwegian@56…….lots of Epy emails, guess that flight log thing crashed and burned…….
Get Trump, sure, by all means, but he wasn’t the biggest fish in the Get Away Car.
Trump is a gift to all those whose names appear on the Lolita Express’s flight logs…….a get out of jail free card. Maybe Gizzy will make room in her cell for him…..
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 12 2025 23:04 utc | 85

“We are watching a horror movie”.
In response to julianias comment on the last OT thread about her nightmare Veteran’s Day trip to Santa Fe.
I was reminded that the only thing I knew about Santa Fe is that it is home of James Evans Pilato and his online radio show Media Monarchy. That chap kept me sane during the darkest days of the scamdemic lockdowns with his dark but witty analysis of the news insanity, and an esoteric taste in music.
I decided to listen to his Veteran’s Day edition. which gave me a few giggles and touched on a lot of topics, including piggies planting pipe bombs on J6 and much. much more.
Enjoy.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 12 2025 23:04 utc | 86

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 12 2025 23:04 utc | 85
Indeed, like that other pedo fixer Jimmy Savile, he knew to put his dirty hands on as many of the ‘people that mattered’, and be pictured with them, as an insurance policy against the truth coming out. So many peeps would be potentially sprayed with shit they would work to keep his disgusting exploits covered up, a few would join in with the indulgences.
When finally the Savile SHTF it transpired that everybody knew about it but nobody saw fit to say anything…
Trumps sudden memory loss regarding his good friend Jeffrey is not necessarily from fear of what he might be said to have done, but severe pressure from his owners, donors. oligarchs, people who really matter and most of all the Chosen Ones.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 12 2025 23:21 utc | 87

Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, has denied allegations made by his sister, Ann Altman, who filed a lawsuit in January 2025 accusing him of sexually abusing her between 1997 and 2006, beginning when she was three years old and he was 12.The lawsuit alleges that the abuse included rape, sexual assault, molestation, sodomy, and battery, with the final incidents occurring when Altman was an adult and his sister was still a minor.Ann Altman is seeking at least $75,000 in damages for each of two counts, totaling $150,000, plus punitive damages, citing injuries such as post-traumatic stress disorder, severe emotional distress, and depression.
 

Whoa. That sum of money is obviously peanuts, so it’s unlikely this was what she was after here. Speak about psychopathy – incredible deed if true. It’s a massive tell about this guy, and I now feel confident that he is consciously riding the AI bubble for personal gain, which I had suspected all along. I’m open to discover he is merely the front end of a deep state operation, but not too sure about that. 

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 12 2025 23:22 utc | 88

I laugh when some very otherwise intelligent and articulate posters try to convince us all that Islam is the religion of peace. Really?
 
Apart from possibly Iran, name a few countries that are now predominantly Moslem and have thriving native or immigrant  communities of religious others? Even Gaza that I sympathise with has been fatally hostile to its native Christians. Note,I say native,because yes,the Gazans were Christian before they were invaded by Islam.
 
No, you aren’t allowed to mention Libya,Iraq,or Syria that we the West destroyed. They were exceptions that proved the rule, and we annihilated them for it 
 
Go sell that story to someone else .

Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 12 2025 23:25 utc | 89

I remember during an interview with Catherine Austin Fitts, a former Bush administration official, that when they realized they’d gotten away with 9/11 they started to let the mask slip. Here’s a Ryan Dawson film that pulls that mask right off and it is terrifying!
Empire Unmasked: https://www.ryandawson.org/p/empire-unmasked-redux-a1c

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 12 2025 23:39 utc | 90

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 12 2025 23:04 utc | 86
 
RE:   In response to julianias comment on the last OT thread about her nightmare Veteran’s Day trip to Santa Fe.
 
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My wife was w/ the USDA for a time, her work-week pegged to the federal calendar, and I can assure you that she noticed quite assiduously when the 4-day weekends occurred throughout the year and how many there were.
 
The 4-day weekend is a major perk for governmental employees.
 
My wife and others planned their holiday excursions around that extra day off, and it was huge.
 
That snowmobiling trip to Yellowstone during Presidents Day Weekend-?  Oh, yeah—there were crowds.   It was crazy.  Plus the snow was melting by the hour.  Every federal employee wanted to squeeze in that last bit of winter before knuckling down once more at the desk.
 
Because the next 4-day weekend would not happen until late May.
 
The federal govt is the largest employer in the U.S.  (Walmart is 2nd.)  In important waysm federal employees certainly drive the holiday calendar for high-profile spaces.   National Parks are especially hit hard.  If you want to visit the Grand Canyon during a calmer period, try to avoid a 4-day weekend for federal employees-?
 
No question it is tough for locals.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 12 2025 23:47 utc | 91

Persiflo @88
I now feel confident that he is consciously riding the AI bubble for personal gain
The history of American Capitalism in a sentence.

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 12 2025 23:47 utc | 92

Alex Krainer has just put out a Substack posting that aligns with my comment back at #13 and is about a book calle The Preparation
 
The Preparation
 

The Preparation is not just a book
It’s a blueprint for young men to escape the conveyor belt of conventional life and forge their own path.

 
I fault the book for focusing on men only instead of both sexes but then the patriarchy runs deep, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 12 2025 23:51 utc | 93

Recently updated | Nov 12 2025 23:25 utc | 89
 
US has destroyed the majority of secular Muslim nations beginning with Afghanistan.  The US Sudi deal where the Saudis built Mosques and Madrasas around the world. First step to extremism is converting young Muslims to Wahhabism and then the easy step of turning them into extremists. 
 
The destroyed nations – Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and a number more. Arab spring – US colour revolution. What you see in much of the Muslim world today is the result of the Americans and British.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 12 2025 23:51 utc | 94

China – China bad stories,  always find their way to near the top of the Wests propaganda media.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 12 2025 19:11 utc | 22
 
I’ve a script which scans the front pages of a lot of media outlets (all around the world but limited to English) for stories about China and thanks to AI I am able to filter by sentiment. I am using this as a “poor man’s propaganda radar” and it gives me daily, weekly, monthly numbers of negative/positive stories about China in the Western media.
 
I noticed quite an uptick in negative stories about two weeks ago. It started with the SHEIN doll story (verified propaganda), then the Norwegian bus story (verified propaganda) and now the bridge thing. The latter one obviously isn’t propaganda and only a small percentage of monitored outlets produced a negative story…
 
When I get time, I’ll put the numbers into some spreadsheet to create some graphs. Will share then…

Posted by: Zet | Nov 13 2025 0:10 utc | 95

I laugh when some very otherwise intelligent and articulate posters try to convince us all that Islam is the religion of peace. Really? Go sell that story to someone else .
Posted by: Recently updated | Nov 12 2025 23:25 utc | 89
 
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I suppose you also laugh uproariously when some idiot tries to tell that ‘Christians’ like President Trump (and most of his government) tell them that his religion is a religion of peace.
 
That is hilarious. … oh, wait a minute…

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 13 2025 0:14 utc | 96

What you see in much of the Muslim world today is the result of the Americans and British.

 
Moreover, western (German) media is actively stirring Islamophobia, assisted by various PsyOps and actual terror attacks in Europe which I would rather attribute to our usual suspects. My blonde girlfriend is a good example of what happens when you mostly sit at home and read the MSM even when aware that they are devilishly manipulative; she’s literally uncomfortable to go out on the streets now. That said, when a muslim friend recently broke with his upbringing (which included a local Koran school that gave him lifelong nightmares) I was happy for him. There were some good discussions at his dinner table during Ramadan with other guests, but the whole thing is a step forward from earlier monotheisms only in that it is a bit more sophisticated in some parts of the design. Others are absolutely bonkers.

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 13 2025 0:17 utc | 97

By the way, I have been threatened here on MoA before by a Muslim for putting forth a theological argument … the religion of peace does have its ways to keep it I guess. 

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 13 2025 0:36 utc | 98

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 12 2025 21:14 utc | 57
 
The Khazarian Mafia needs to be eradicated.   A cancer pushed on humanity. 

Posted by: MarcusAurelius | Nov 13 2025 0:48 utc | 99

All current events are rendered insignificant with the realization of a future controlled by artificial intelligence and robotics. 
Elon Musk will not take humanity to Mars and beyond without an army of robots. In fact, the “humanity” headed for outer space will be entirely robotic, because obviously no human can survive for long in the harshness. The notion that Mars will be terraformed into a habitat fit for humans is wildly speculative, and likely impossible. Human beings are not going to Mars, but they are going away.
Any work that can be accomplished by artificial intelligence and robotics will be. This means that the labor provided by humans will no longer be in great demand. Utopia is not likely to result. 
More likely, human life will wither away, and after a century or so a few elite humans will live on a resurgent natural Earth, their robots catering to their every whim. It’s a dream come true for the Illuminati. 
Or perhaps the robots will eventually become independent, and eliminate their creators. 
Even if Musk’s Star Trek fantasies were to materialize, it will be the work of millions of robotic assets, not humanity. 
Our current path toward World War 3, and even World War 3 itself, pales in comparison of the nearly certain reduction in population awaiting mankind when artificial intelligence becomes entrenched in our systems and cultures. Some insist that artificial intelligence will allow a new world of human freedom…but will this freedom bring prosperity to the masses?
Elon speaks of a sentient Sun. This is the madness of genius…possibilities are endless, but reality is frustratingly opaque. What happens in the now creates the future, but it’s doubtful that artificial intelligence and robotics will be banned for the good of common people. By this, the elite may as well have a horrific war to thin us out.
I doubt that Sol has consciousness, and I doubt that Elon will ever get close to Mars, much less colonize it. It’s pie-in-the-sky bullshit…but we’ve all seen what these robots can do, and we know that they will have a huge impact on working people way before they ever go to Mars.
What will the ranchers of human livestock do with their massive herd of useless eaters? I predict that before it’s over we will be annihilated in our multitudes by robotic weapons of every imaginable type. In the meantime, war is on, and touring the world. 
Imagine, though, a far future of a very low population of technologically advanced human beings living on a revitalized Earth. With the help of their faithful robots, they will travel lightyears in search of the unknown. Mankind will have risen above its base instincts and spread their disease to other worlds.
Hilarious. 
Why worry? The average person of today has access to more information than they could possibly handle. That’s not a particularly good thing for inner peace. Isreal will expand, Europe and Russia will battle, Venezuela will suffer regime change.  Not much can be done about it. The average person is likely screwed anyway, so I try to see it for what it is…an incredible time to be alive. 
 
 
Thanks for letting an old dog yap.
 

Posted by: A rope leash | Nov 13 2025 0:53 utc | 100