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November 22, 2025
Kellogg Fired Over Leaking 28-Point Plan – Proposal Designed To Trap Putin

It seems that Keith Kellogg, Trump’s special envoy to Ukraine, got fired over leaking news of the 28-point ‘peace plan’. Let’s follow the traces.

On Tuesday the 18th November someone ‘leaked’ to Axios reporter Barak Ravid who then wrote the first story of Trump’s new plan for Ukraine.

Scoop: U.S. secretly drafting new plan to end Ukraine war

The plan’s 28 points fall into four general buckets, sources tell Axios: peace in Ukraine, security guarantees, security in Europe, and future U.S. relations with Russia and Ukraine.

Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff is leading the drafting of the plan and has discussed it extensively with Russian envoy Kirill Dmitriev, a U.S. official said.

Shortly thereafter Steve Witkoff made a mistake on Twitter when he sent a response meant for a private direct message to the public side of his account. He soon deleted it but someone had already taken a screenshot.


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On Thursday, the 20th of November, the New York Post mentioned it:

Senior US officials confirm details of 28-point plan to end Ukraine war

The [Marco Rubio] comment came after Axios on Tuesday reported a deal had been reached, citing Putin henchman Kirill Dmitriev, who claimed he worked on the plan with Witkoff.

Senior US officials believe Dmitriev leaked the plan to Axios as a way to put their “their POV out there first [because] it seemed like they were winning,” one of the officials said. “This is just a tit for tat. Always has been.”

Witkoff appeared to have surmised the same in a quickly deleted post to X in response to the article Tuesday night.

“He must have got this from K,” Witkoff wrote of the Axios author, Barak Ravid — apparently meaning to send it as a DM referring to Dmitriev by his first initial.

I seriously doubt that the “K” Witkoff mentions was Kirill Dmitriev. Dimitriev is not a Washington insider. He is unlikely to leak anything to an Israeli mouthpiece at Axios.

Another “K”, intimately involve in all things Kiev is General Keith Kellogg. When the leak happened he still was Trump’s special envoy to Kiev and will have had knowledge of the plan.

A day later after the leak to Axios Kellogg got fired. As Reuters reported on Wednesday:

Exclusive: Trump’s Ukraine envoy Kellogg to leave post in January, sources say

WASHINGTON, Nov 19 (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump’s Special Envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, has told associates he plans to leave the administration in January, four sources told Reuters, a departure that would mean the loss of a key advocate for Ukraine in the Trump administration.

Special presidential envoy is a temporary designation, and such envoys in theory must be confirmed by the Senate to stay in their positions past 360 days. Kellogg has indicated that January would be a natural departure point, given existing legislation, said the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss private conversations.

His departure will be unwelcome news in Kyiv. The retired lieutenant general was widely viewed by European diplomats, Ukrainians included, as a sympathetic ear in an administration that has at times leaned toward Moscow’s view on the origins of the war in Ukraine.

I doubt that the sources claim to Reuters that Kellogg is leading because of a January deadline. That would be an official reasoning. But The Hill reported on Friday that the White House is dumb on this:

Trump special envoy for Ukraine to leave post

President Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, will depart his position in January, the White House confirmed to The Hill on Thursday, as the president has renewed efforts to end Russia’s war against Kyiv.

The White House did not provide any other details about the reasons for the departure of Kellogg, whose role and influence in the Trump administration elicited mixed reactions.

He was originally appointed in January as special envoy for Russia and Ukraine, and had earlier advocated conditioning U.S. military aid on Kyiv agreeing to participate in peace talks. Kellogg’s profile was downsized to only focusing on Ukraine when Trump brought in Witkoff to serve as a special envoy to Russia.

In his position, Kellogg was viewed as an advocate for Kyiv in an administration that more closely hewed to the Kremlin’s negotiating position.

Anonymous sources to Reuters, and The Hill, say that Kellogg was leaving because time was running out before he would needed Congress confirmation. The point in time for that would be in January.

But if that is so why wouldn’t the White House confirm it?

And if January is the end-date, why was Kellogg’s replacement already named on Friday?

As the Guardian wrote yesterday:

Zelenskyy says Ukraine has impossible choice as Trump pushes plan to end war

A delegation of senior US military officials led by the army secretary, Dan Driscoll, held talks with Zelenskyy on Thursday in Kyiv. Trump has named Driscoll – Vance’s friend and former classmate – as his newest “special representative”. The group of American generals was likely to fly to Moscow at the end of next week to discuss the “peace plan” with the Kremlin, US sources said.

To summarize:

  • The 28-point plan leak to Axios happened on Tuesday.
  • Witkoff texting immediately that “K” was the leaker.
  • On Wednesday Reuters reports that Kellogg is leaving in January.
  • On Thursday The Hill reports that the White House ‘gave no detail’ about his leaving.
  • ‘Senior US officials’ obfuscate the issue in the NY Post by claiming that Witkoff’s “K” meant Kirill Dmitriov.
  • On Friday The Guardian says that Kellogg’s job and title have already been handed over to someone else.

I will bet a 100 in any currency that it was Kellogg who had leaked the plan. Witkoff complained about it to Trump (or Vance). Kellogg got fired with immediate effect. His replacement is already in. Anonymous claims that Kellogg is leaving for other reasons are obfuscations (by Kellogg himself?) and wrong.

Yesterday Dan Driscol, Kellogg’s replacement, was already briefing European ambassadors in Kiev:

The US army secretary Dan Driscoll briefed ambassadors from Nato nations at a meeting in Kyiv late on Friday, after talks with Zelenskyy and taking a phone call from the White House. “No deal is perfect, but it must be done sooner rather than later,” he told them, according to one person who was present.

The mood in the room was sombre, with several European ambassadors questioning the content of the deal and the way in which the US had conducted the negotiations with Russia without keeping allies informed.

“It was a nightmare meeting. It was the ‘you have no cards’ argument again,” said the source, referring to Trump’s claim that Zelenskyy had no cards to play, during a contentious White House meeting back in February.

Alastair Crooke, who has personal experience in hardcore diplomacy, thinks that the 28-point plan is part of an escalation to press Russia into making concessions:

This set of proposals is not likely to be accepted by the Europeans, Russia or even Zelensky. Their purpose is to dictate a completely new start-point to any negotiation. Any Russian concessions stipulated in the text will be ‘pocketed’ by the US, whilst the rug will be pulled on Russia’s ‘stated principles’. The pressures on Russia will escalate.

In fact, escalation has already begun. Coinciding with publication of the proposals, four long-range US-supplied and targeted ATACMS were fired deep into Russian pre-2014 territory at Voronezh, which is where Russia’s over-the-horizon strategic radars are situated. All were shot down, and Russian Iksander missiles immediately destroyed the launch platforms and killed the 10 launch operators.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has threatened yet more sanctions for Russia, and Trump has indicated that he is ok with Senator Lindsay Graham’s 500% sanctions proposal for those trading with Russia – provided that he, Trump, has complete discretion over the new sanctions package.

The overall aim to these proposals clearly is to corner Putin, and push him off his fundamental principles — such as his insistence on eliminating the root causes to the conflict, and not just the symptoms. There is no hint in this paper of any recognition of root causes [expansion of NATO and missile emplacements] beyond the vague promise of a “dialogue [that] will be conducted between Russia and NATO, mediated by the United States, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation, thereby ensuring global security and increasing opportunities for cooperation and future economic development”.

Blah, blah, blah.

It seems that escalation is ahead. Russia will need to consider how to militarily deter the US effectively, yet without starting up the steps of the escalatory ladder to WW3 …

Comments

Barak Ravid
 
every.
single.
time. 

Posted by: Exile | Nov 22 2025 16:21 utc | 1

Why do Americans pay so much heed to people who have/had four stars on their shoulders? I don’t get it. Most of them are doofusses.

Posted by: Klaus | Nov 22 2025 16:24 utc | 2

Kellogg was a lieutenant general, i.e. a three-star.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 22 2025 16:32 utc | 3

Thanks, Lysias. That does completely undermine my argument. I stand corrected.

Posted by: Klaus | Nov 22 2025 16:35 utc | 4

thanks b.. good reporting…
 
who is dan driscol and he another neo con koolaid freaki?? 
 
yes – escalation ahead… that is the only course of action the west knows, in spite of everything…  this ceasefire bullshit talk is just that – bullshit..

Posted by: james | Nov 22 2025 16:35 utc | 5

The Pentagon and West in general is top heavy with big talking strutting peacocks. This was their war, planned by and directed by the West and a catastrophic failure. When was the last time they dismissed…anyone..for corruption or just generalized incompetence? Its a fail upwards type situation and no wonder theyre full of goofy dipshits.
I agree with b by the way, this is clearly a nonstarter for Russia so its dreams about pressure and capitulation again..

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 22 2025 16:39 utc | 6

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 21st November 2025: May be Useful to Some:  Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update

Posted by: The Busker | Nov 22 2025 16:44 utc | 7

Still coping, I see. Larry Johnson correctly realized that Kiril Dimitriev was essential to making this plan palatable to Russia as an early offer. Doctorow already realized that couldn’t be done without permission, and VVP lightly complimented the plan yesterday instead of firing Dimitriev- for much more cause than Kellogg, in point of fact.
 
Europe and Ukraine were given an opportunity to beef up for the confrontation they wanted. They failed. So Kellogg isn’t really needed anymore- I’m surprised he stuck around as long as he did.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 22 2025 16:50 utc | 8

I will bet a 100 in any currency that it was Kellogg who had leaked the plan. 

Of course it was. I agree 100% 

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 16:53 utc | 9

Kellogg would have been easy to confirm, so that’s a pretty much fake answer from him.
The terms are too generous to Ukraine (why do they need a 600k military?) too.

Posted by: Houseplant | Nov 22 2025 16:55 utc | 10

The details of any “plan” are irrelevant. Before the ink dried, the West would already have in motion actions to violate it.
 
Surely the Russians know this. If they do not, then they deserve to be destroyed.
 
As to who leaked what to whom, that’s all kayfabe.
 
Witkoff randomly tweets revealing stuff?
 
yeah-sure.gif 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 17:00 utc | 11

Only the second proposal is being discussed here, but there were two, not just one. What is being discussed here is what Z changed (it wasn’t just the deletion of the part about corruption).
Putin did not agree either, but said “could be a basis,” meaning something that does not need to be discussed, and he used the subjunctive, meaning no agreement.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 17:01 utc | 12

All this “he said, she said” or “who leaked” is secondary.
The only thing that matters now is that the Bandera Klan is collapsing, the Ukrainian Army is collapsing everywhere with huge losses. The Ukrainians have lost at least 1.5 million soldiers. The only uncertainty is the date of the unconditional surrender.
Even the snow is against the AFU (videos):

Anti-drone nets do not withstand the first snow and simply fall down along with the supports, reports Ukrainian journalist Kirienko.
 
According to her, the nets are now creating even more problems for logistics. The correspondent did not specify in which direction these shots were taken.
 
Think we all suspected this was the case.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/148623

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 17:02 utc | 13

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 17:02 utc | 13
 
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Well said. The “deal” is a distraction from the total annihilation of NATO and American military power.
 
The bargaining phase of acceptance.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 17:08 utc | 14

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 17:01 utc | 12
Correction, Autotranslate translated crap: It must read: Putin did not agree either, but said “could be a basis,” meaning something that needs to be discussed, and he used the subjunctive, meaning no agreement.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 17:16 utc | 15

I want to restate my MAD contextualized conditional surrender view of the coming process. 
Whatever agreement that is made will, behind the curtain, be an agreement between Russia and empire currently faced by the US.  It needs to be understood that the MAD context is what will make the surrender of Ukraine conditional instead of unconditional. 
Of course Putin is willing to talk because he remembers 4 years of not talking to Biden.  Putin also knows that Russia is successfully executing its SMO and should meet all of its goals.  The longer the negotiation process takes, because there will not be a ceasefire, the more Russia is able to solidify achievement of its goals……including Odessa, IMO 
And then if you zoom out to the MAD contextualized conditional surrender civilization war level, this conflict with Russia is as existential to empire as is Taiwan, the ME/Occupied Palestine and of course, the God Of Mammon cult of global private finance.  
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and we don’t quite know yet just where/when that event will occur but I can smell it fairly strong these days.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 22 2025 17:22 utc | 16

In fact, escalation has already begun. Coinciding with publication of the proposals, four long-range US-supplied and targeted ATACMS were fired deep into Russian pre-2014 territory at Voronezh, which is where Russia’s over-the-horizon strategic radars are situated. 

Not at the city of Voronezh, but at radar stations named “Voronezh”, which are not located in the city of that name. Russia has deployed “Voronezh-M” and “Voronezh-DM” over-the-horizon (OTH) radar systems in various strategic locations across the country, such as the Kaliningrad, Orenburg, Krasnodar, and Irkutsk regions, to monitor missile launches. 

Posted by: Moscow Exile | Nov 22 2025 17:23 utc | 17

So now I know that you can’t cut and paste another comment and add the extra return between the paragraphs and have it come out how you want…..sigh

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 22 2025 17:23 utc | 18

To repeat myself, if Putin  indicated a willingness to abandon any of the goals of the SMO, or any Russian held territory, the Russian neocons might well sideline him and put Medvedev in charge…Nor would the Russian public accept that , after all the blood and cost of this war, when victory is clearly in sight…
And Medvedev in charge would probably end the war pretty promptly by threatening to blow Kiev, and any NATO interferers  of the map…or maybe he would just do it….

Posted by: pyrrhus | Nov 22 2025 17:24 utc | 19

Silly insincere diplomat is silly and insincere. 
 
Russians are storming Myrnograd and moving well into Seversk. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 22 2025 17:25 utc | 20

Scuttlebutt has it that the NGO-style operation Gen Kellogg’s daughter has been running in Ukraine since before 2022, ferrying U.S. & European mercs to the LOC and then extracting them quickly back to the West when they are injured or killed, fell in the cross-hairs of a potential State Department audit.
 
Ooops.
 
Hard to color-inside-the-lines very easily when the Special Envoy’s own daughter has been actively working within Ukraine’s money pipeline.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 22 2025 17:25 utc | 21

Former CIA analyst Larry Johnson stated live on the “Judging Freedom” podcast that the crazy drug addict Zelensky is suspected of financial fraud involving $48 billion, and the US Department of Defense is investigating.
 
A large portion of the $48 billion the department is seeking was allegedly redirected primarily to Zelensky’s accounts.
 
❗️Johnson stated that high-ranking European officials were involved in the schemes, including the head of European diplomacy, Kaja Kallas. She is said to be involved in the operations because a large part of them passed through Estonia.
 
“I think Zelensky understands: if he doesn’t play by the United States’ rules, he will become more than a dead man walking.”
 
Who would have thought, Zelensky a thief… well, what do you know?

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/51265
 
So, combine the information that the British have huge ‘investments’ (expecting Russian loot) in Ukraine that will never be repaid and that it is likely to bring down the Bank Of England with the fact that Zelensky has stolen billions of ‘aid’ and much of it is deposited in Estonia, the home country of Kaja Kallas.
 
There is no reason to ask why these people are acting so strange now that Ukraine is collapsing politically and militarily.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 17:27 utc | 22

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 22 2025 16:39 utc | 6
 
Apparently, in the UK they have more Admirals than ships which buttress your point.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 22 2025 17:31 utc | 23

@psychohistorian | Nov 22 2025 17:23 utc | 18

So now I know that you can’t cut and paste another comment and add the extra return between the paragraphs and have it come out how you want…..sigh

The ‘Visual’ editor is broken, i.e. configured incorrectly. 
 
Until it is fixed here is a poor workaround: if you copy/paste text with paragraphs you have to place the cursor before every paragraph  and press the “Back” button until the text is on the same line as the previous paragraph. Then press enter twice to re-establish the paragraph. Repeat for every paragraph.  Yes, it is a poor workaround.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 17:32 utc | 24

To repeat myself, if Putin indicated a willingness to abandon any of the goals of the SMO, or any Russian held territory, the Russian neocons might well sideline him and put Medvedev in charge…
 
Posted by: pyrrhus | Nov 22 2025 17:24 utc | 19
 
I’d love to see that. They can share a cell with Strelkov or a bunk with Prigozhin.  The wannabe iron men would learn that power shifts more quickly than some people think.
 
At any rate, the point is not to abandon the goals of the SMO, but accomplish them through other means. The last time a leader took abandoning sacred captured territory as treason (before Zelensky) he made Paulus a Field Marshal. It didn’t work out. VVP clearly doesn’t think like that, or he would have had the commanders in Kherson flayed.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 22 2025 17:35 utc | 25

My prediction is that the only thing that prevented Meaghan Mobbs from unleashing on Trump (she has been surprisingly restrained about that on her X) was the employment of the dear ol’ dad. Now, since the dad is going, she will become much more open. 🙂

Posted by: kirill | Nov 22 2025 17:35 utc | 26

Posted by: pyrrhus | Nov 22 2025 17:24 utc | 19
 
######
 
IMO, many struggle to understand that Trump, Putin, Bibi, etc are not “in charge” like a king.
 
The notion of the independent and all-powerful modern leader is a Hollywood concoction.
 
They all answer to a collection of disparate and competing interests beneath them. Failure to do so means removal or possibly death.
 
Understanding this, we should all view Zelensky as a nothing, a cipher. As are all European leaders.
 
Then we should probably ponder why we focus so much attention and emotion on shadow puppets…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 17:36 utc | 27

So, combine the information that the British have huge ‘investments’ (expecting Russian loot) in Ukraine that will never be repaid and that it is likely to bring down the Bank Of England 
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 17:27 utc | 22
 
You can’t “bring down” a fiat bank so easily. But it won’t matter, because those idiots made fiscally ruinous bets which will see the UK in an IMF program. And they don’t have the military might to make even a performative issue of it without America.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 22 2025 17:38 utc | 28

Trap V. Putin now that’s funny. Amerika has trapped itself.

Posted by: jo6pac | Nov 22 2025 17:39 utc | 29

“I will bet a 100 in any currency that it was Kellogg who had leaked the plan. ”
 

Of course it was. I agree 100% 
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 16:53 utc | 9
 
Perhaps, that was the plan.
 
Does look like they finally have the Green T shirt surrounded, Kallas and her shitty little country was obviously used for the laundering with countless European pols in the troug
 
The SMO is kinda what Hemingway said about him  going bankrupt,  “It was slow, then all of a sudden.”

Posted by: canuk | Nov 22 2025 17:39 utc | 30

Per b, speaking of the escalation he foresees, “Russia will need to consider how to militarily deter the US effectively, yet without starting up the steps of the escalatory ladder to WW3.”
 
To my mind Russia has already deterred the U.S. effectively by routing the U.S.’s proxy militarily:  this has steadily & convincingly been the case since the liberation of Bakhmut, if not before. 
 
In that Russia still has Oreshniks in the back pocket and other as-yet-unseen but ready-to-deploy next gen hypersonics, Russia would seem by every important metric to maintain its escalatory dominance w/ conventional weaponry quite easily. 
 
Now that the European/Ukrainian own-goal has come about, via the corruption scandal, the U.S.’s hand by virtue of its proxy is considerably weakened.
 
Russia has strengthened throughout the SMO and has consolidated its strength massively since June while its erstwhile mortal enemy, the U.S., has seen its proxy become a basket-case and its vassals augur down into financial ruination.
 
Show me how the U.S. escalates its way out of this vale of tears.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 22 2025 17:44 utc | 31

Creator: Ernest Hemingway, U.S. author, winner of Nobel Prize in Literature
Context: The character Mike Campbell in the 1926 novel “The Sun Also Rises” was asked about his money troubles and responded with a vivid description embracing self-contradiction:1

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.
“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”
“What brought it on?”
“Friends,” said Mike. “I had a lot of friends. False friends. Then I had creditors, too. Probably had more creditors than anybody in England.”

Posted by: jonku | Nov 22 2025 17:46 utc | 32

As I wrote yesterday, this charade is becoming truly boring. Because of the silly belief in the West that President Putin decides everything that goes on in Russia, nobody in the West thinks that Vladimir Putin cannot accept such ridiculous proposal without being summarily removed from power. The US regime is poorly informed and that is where the fear of unintended tragic lies. Of course, the sometimes timid rebuttal of  the Russian leadership does not also help the matter.However as the childish ploy to trap Russia is being acted in the West, particularly in the EU, the Russian army in the front  is sending an unambiguous message to the NATO. 

Posted by: Steve | Nov 22 2025 17:52 utc | 33

On Sunday in Geneva, the U.S. team, led by Sec Rubio, Witkoff and Army Sec Dan Driscoll, will meet w/ the national security advisers of Germany, France, Italy and the UK.   Yermak and Umerov are also expected to participate in the talks on behalf of Ukraine.
 
On Saturday, Volodymyr held several calls with European leaders and briefed them on the Ukrainian position concerning the plan.  “All European leaders are shocked but supportive,” a Ukrainian official said after the call.
 
As if responding to some perceived criticism about DJT’s commitment to the plan, White House spokesman Karoline Leavitt said: “The talks in Geneva show how much the Trump administration is engaging with all parties on the peace plan for Ukraine and the doubters claiming otherwise are flat out wrong.”

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 22 2025 18:00 utc | 34

Ukraine Got Chinese-Made Man-Portable Air Defense Systems From Black Market (Video)
https://southfront.press/ukraine-got-chinese-made-man-portable-air-defense-systems-from-black-market-video/

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:04 utc | 35

EU seeking to rewrite Trump’s Ukraine peace plan – Bloomberg
https://www.rt.com/news/628186-eu-trump-plan-rewrite/

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:06 utc | 36

Posted by: jonku | Nov 22 2025 17:46 utc | 32
 
Thank you for the correction;  well done.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 22 2025 18:09 utc | 37

I will bet a 100 in any currency that it was Kellogg who had leaked the plan. 

In Bitcoin??
 

Posted by: Michael Droy | Nov 22 2025 18:15 utc | 38

It is not at all clear to me that Trump is organized enough to replace Kellogg so quickly. It is not clear to me that Driscoll is special representative to Ukraine, rather than NATO. Although it’s not impossible that K was Kirill, I agree it was probably Kellogg. (Unless Witkoff is a really cunning player who was aiming to accuse Kellogg without literally naming him? And get him fired? Technically possible, I suppose but doesn’t seem likely.) 
 
I don’t know who this Crooke fellow is, but it is not at all clear to me how leaking this proposal could be thought to have trapped Putin or anybody else. The plan is only negative about the most extreme of Ukraine’s official claims to total victory including the Crimea. (And implicitly against the more extreme unofficial aims of regime change/partition of Russia.) Otherwise it doesn’t really commit the US, much less Europe, to a genuine settlement, although it does stake a US monetary claim. Supporting a frozen war that constitutes a permanent threat and burden to Russia is supporting Ukraine, even if some wish to pretend it isn’t. It’s merely more practical than Biden’s full court press approach. This Dmitriev may be dismissed as a Putin henchman but this plan appears to show his input is representative of more capitulationist elements in Russia. (They probably think of themselves as more pragmatic, nationalist, less Chinese-dependent, etc.)

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 22 2025 18:15 utc | 39

 
Of course it was Kellogg who leaked the proposal, not Dimitriev. And Witkoff was furious because it was embarassing for Dimitriev and especially Dimitrievs principal, Putin. Who had decided to keep clandestine contacts to Trump and not to tell any other in his team about it.
Just my 2 cents.
 
 

Posted by: mk | Nov 22 2025 18:16 utc | 40

❗️ Preparation continues for summit between Putin and Trump — Dep FM Ryabkov
 
‘We cannot afford to deviate from the framework of Anchorage’
 
Ryabkov states Russia expects the Trump admin to create the necessary conditions for a meeting between Putin and Trump

https://t.me/rtnews/122067
 

‘No difference between EU and US, 2 sides of one coin’
 
Dep FM Ryabkov says a new and just multipolar world is coming into form to replace Western-led order
 
‘Europe is trying to unite on the basis of fear of Russia’

https://t.me/rtnews/122072
 

‘We are dealing with a historic adversary’
 
Dep FM Ryabkov reflects ‘They thought they could inflict a strategic defeat on a nuclear power’
 
For Russia-West relations only way forward is a ‘contractual relationship’

https://t.me/rtnews/122073

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 18:22 utc | 41

Ukraine is not some side-show cooked-up for the Bidens to profit.
 
No, Trump hemming-and-hawing over what-to-do in Ukraine and some’s insistence that Trump wants to wash his hands of the matter does not reflect reality.
 
That reality: Ukraine is existential for the elite in the west.
 
Clear your head of the aforementioned delusions. Globohomo wants Russia dead because Russia is civiliazation.  

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 22 2025 18:24 utc | 42

For Russia-West relations only way forward is a ‘contractual relationship’

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 18:22 utc | 41
 
Is that really a basis? Trump has already terminated many contracts (“any contract can be terminated”).

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:27 utc | 43

On Sunday in Geneva, the U.S. team, led by Sec Rubio, Witkoff and Army Sec Dan Driscoll, will meet w/ the national security advisers of Germany, France, Italy and the UK. Yermak and Umerov are also expected to participate in the talks on behalf of Ukraine. ***
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 22 2025 18:00 utc | 34
 
Reputation reconstruction for Rubio. Neocons are desperate not to be tagged with the loss of Odessa. Lets see if the first cousin coven of war vampires in Europe will take the fall. 

Posted by: frithguild | Nov 22 2025 18:29 utc | 44

@smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:27 utc | 43

Is that really a basis? Trump has already terminated many contracts (“any contract can be terminated”).

Agreed, but either you have no contact at all or at least you write an unambiguous contract so it is clear who is breaking the agreement. In the future, I don’t think the US will have the power to break any contract at will.
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 18:32 utc | 45

So as I mentioned in the other thread, this is a palatable basis…

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 22 2025 18:33 utc | 46

27 EU leaders to have EMERGENCY meeting Monday Nov 24 in Luanda on sidelines of EU-African Union Summit — EC President Costa
 
Will discuss Ukraine
 
Says EU remains ‘clear on principle that borders must not be changed by force’

https://t.me/rtnews/122103
 
Because EU leaders negotiating with itself on behalf of 2 countries that aren’t even there has never been tried before and is surely effective by now, right? 
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 18:36 utc | 47

Russian advances for the day. I’m enjoying this. 
 
Military Situation In Ukraine On November 22, 2025 (Maps Update) South Front

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 22 2025 18:40 utc | 48

Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 18:32 utc | 45
Trump has always broken agreements when the other party was weaker. This gives Russia hope that he won’t do the same. (But, as they say, “hope springs eternal.”)
The only thing that gives Russia security is its weapons and its country (distance from the others), but the difference is diminishing, as the others will also have that in a few years.
 

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:41 utc | 49

I suggest barflies read what Putin said about the draft plan and recall what he just said to his commanders that fulfillment of the SMO’s goals are “unconditional”–it would be much better for people to actually cite the real words versus their misinterpretation which harms their credibility.
 
As for Kellogg being the leaker, that fits him to a T. One thing we don’t know is if Trump would’ve wanted Russia to know the draft’s contents, that it needed to be edited is very clear. But Putin was gracious in saying it provides groundwork for further talks, which gives nothing to either Russian hawks or doves on the issue. The overall context between the two Kremlin “press releases” is very clear. Oh, and we can’t let the fact that Putin called the Kiev creatures “a criminal gang” fade from the picture. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 22 2025 18:44 utc | 50

  • Russian strikes destroyed targets in Odessa, Kiliya, Illichivsk, Sumy, Rechki, Khoten, Kharkiv, Pechenegy, Dvurechnaya, Merefa, Vovchansk, Zaporizhia, Huliaipole, Dnipropetrovsk, Pavlohrad, and the DPR regions;
  • The Russian army struck a gas compressor station, a checkpoint on the border with Romania and a ferry terminal in Odessa region;
  • The Russian army struck a substation in Pavlohrad, Dnipropetrovsk region;
  • The Russian army struck an airbase in Lebedyn, Sumy region;
  • The Russian offensive continues in the Seversk, Pokrovsk, Kupyansk, Dnipropetrovsk, and Zaporizhzhia directions;
  • Russian forces took control of Yampol and Stavki;
  • Russian forces took control of Zvankovka;
  • Russian forces advanced in Mirnograd;
  • Russian forces advanced in the Guliaipole direction;
  • Ukrainian losses amounted to approximately 1,610 troops over the past 24 hours.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:44 utc | 51

@smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:41 utc | 49
 
Yes, but it isn’t unique to Trump. The US was founded on the principle of breaking agreements with other parties and has practiced it ever since.
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 18:47 utc | 52

I doubt much of this is verified but I suspect it’s mostly true and only a small portion of the theft, fraud, and laundering. Americans are so fucking gullible
 
 
Colonelcassad
 
 
The FBI suspects Zelensky of financial fraud for $ 48 BILLION. This information is actively discussed in the American intelligence community.
 
What is known:
 
– Most of the money ended up in the accounts of the Zelensky family and high-ranking European officials – including Kaja Kallas.
 
 
– In addition to the FBI and NABU/SAPO, the Pentagon Investigative Department is involved in the investigation. And CIA officers in Europe are also involved.
 
This is the largest investigation into the embezzlement of American money that has received publicity. Moreover, suspicions will be brought against some European leaders.
@The_Wrong_Side
12:35

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 22 2025 18:47 utc | 53

The conundrum without an obvious solution for Ukraine is the need to hold elections in order to provide a legitimate legislative body and head of state to sign and approve any agreement. With marshal law in effect they cannot do this. Without marshal law Zalensky has no power and must step aside.

Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 22 2025 18:51 utc | 54

The Europeans  need to be taught that they are not in the discussion .
The neocons need cleaning out and their security clearances removed.
They’re a decade’s long disaster. 

Posted by: jpc | Nov 22 2025 18:53 utc | 55

Posted by: Exile | Nov 22 2025 16:21 utc | 1
Beat me to it. For the avoidance of doubt: Barak Ravid
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Nov 22 2025 18:53 utc | 56

Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 22 2025 18:51 utc | 54
 
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The obvious solution is for Russia to take Kiev and to prosecute the Verkhovna Rada for war crimes before they can escape to Tel Aviv or Miami.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 18:55 utc | 57

Thanks b, best timely analysis, again. 

Posted by: annie | Nov 22 2025 18:56 utc | 58

The obvious solution is for Russia to take Kiev and to prosecute the Verkhovna Rada for war crimes before they can escape to Tel Aviv or Miami.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 18:55 utc | 57
 
Nonsense, typical armchair strategist.
Kiev is just causing trouble and tying up far too many units. Kiev is not needed, except perhaps for media purposes.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:59 utc | 59

The obvious solution is for Russia to take Kiev and to prosecute the Verkhovna Rada for war crimes before they can escape to Tel Aviv or Miami.
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 18:55 utc | 57
 
Ah, but they tried that in 2022. If VVP really drew back on the assurances of Boris Johnson, he’s a very great fool. Taking Odessa will be much harder: even if the MOD was ready to risk stranding a force on the right bank, the Moldovan “elections” mean a NATO force can effortlessly reinforce Odessa before Russia even gets to Nikolaev.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 22 2025 18:59 utc | 60

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:59 utc | 59
 
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You clearly do not understand politics.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 19:01 utc | 61

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 22 2025 18:59 utc | 60
 
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If NATO were to send its nonexistent troops through Moldova, that would be ideal.
 
Given Russia’s long-term demographic concerns (not enough white Christians), adding Transnistria via Novorossiya to the Federation would be a great victory.
 
 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 19:05 utc | 62

VVP (kgb) gave the Trumpet’s mob Syria & the JewishState where is the repay, or, that’s not the you know who’ish Empire’s way so no need

Posted by: Sadness | Nov 22 2025 19:08 utc | 63

LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 19:05 utc | 62
 
I’m wondering if you’re a NATO bot with AI. Given your many posts and the time intervals between your replies, you must have a PC instead of a brain. Otherwise, it’s hard to imagine a human being doing that.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 19:10 utc | 64

It becomes really funny. Russia is waiting, only waiting. For what? For the ukronazis and their euronazi supporters to refuse the 28 points trap plan.
 
So that Russia does not need to refuse itself this in any way inacceptable plan. The trap is for the ukronazis and the euronazis.
 
Well done, Russia!
 
In the meantime more territory is liberated.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:13 utc | 65

A Russian prisoner was killed by the ukronazis.A Russian killed five captured ukronazis, for they as a team had killed with drones other Russian prisoners. The one who was filming the killing with a drone was asking the name of the shooter.So far I knew only one case when an ukronazi prisoner was killed by a Russian officer using a knife after this prisoner had killed the officer’s mother. It was in 2022.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:14 utc | 66

Well done, Russia! In the meantime more territory is liberated.
Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:13 utc | 65
 
Yes. Lavrov: We do not engage in megaphone diplomacy. 

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 19:16 utc | 67

Nonsense, typical armchair strategist.
Kiev is just causing trouble and tying up far too many units. Kiev is not needed, except perhaps for media purposes.
Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:59 utc | 59
 
Wondering who is the typical armchair strategist…

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:17 utc | 68

Good to have Kellogg out of the way, if indeed he was fired. Witkoff may be an uncritical Trump follower, but he has a constructive mind and is just what you need in a critical situation like this.

Posted by: grunzt | Nov 22 2025 19:17 utc | 69

Otherwise, it’s hard to imagine a human being doing that.
 
Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 19:10 utc | 64
 
#####
 
I don’t think I am exceptional, but given how many people perceive me as a machine, I have opened up to the possibility.
 
Or is it that others have a very low standard/capability for performance?
 
Regardless, Muppets focus on me (whom they do not and cannot know), not on the discussion.
 
Is it because they have so little to say, so little conviction in what they have already said?
 
If one can only see things in one dimension, then they will often be found wanting in strategic discussions.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 22 2025 19:17 utc | 70

 The FBI suspects Zelensky of financial fraud for $ 48 BILLION. This information is actively discussed in the American intelligence community. Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 22 2025 18:47 utc | 53
 
The information I got was that Umerov got immunity for collaborating and the last data I had was about 23 billions…
 
It is getting very interesting.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:20 utc | 71

“The obvious solution is for Russia to take Kiev and to prosecute the Verkhovna Rada for war crimes before they can escape to Tel Aviv or Miami.”
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Nov 22 2025 18:55 utc | 57
 “Nonsense, typical armchair strategist.
Kiev is just causing trouble would tie up far too many units. Kiev is not needed, except perhaps for media purposes.”
 
Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:59 utc | 59
 
Yeah, you re right here smart , but , also, LB could certainly  be a bot as he replies a bit too quickly for a intellgent human; but he certainly is not that either

Posted by: canuk | Nov 22 2025 19:23 utc | 72

Sadness@63
 
Syria was a complicated mess, still is. Between sanctions, the US sitting on the oil fields and funding and supporting various armed groups, and Turkey with proxies in Idlib the only way out for Assad was some kind of compromise he was unwilling or unable to make. I’m not sure what you think Russia could have or should have done, especially since they needed to focus on Ukraine and not start writing. In this respect US and Israeli strategy was successful. Iran, Russia, and Hezbollah were not in a position to help. Sad, yes, tragic really.

Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 22 2025 19:24 utc | 73

Berletic on ‘peace plan”.
 
On Latest US-Proposed Ukraine “Peace Deal” – There Can Be NO PEACE DEAL with a Nation That Does Not Seek Peace… Beyond already admitting it seeks a “Minsk 3.0” framework where a ceasefire is established, European troops openly/covertly move into Ukraine to go about rebuilding Ukraine’s armed forces, the US fundamentally DOES NOT WANT PEACE; It is only talking “peace” because Ukraine’s lines are collapsing and it needs time and space to readjust its decades-spanning pursuit of global primacy and specifically its encirclement and containment of Russia and China. If this hasn’t changed (and it hasn’t) nothing else will; Washington’s primary objective is ultimately containing China which it needs Russia either co-opted or crippled to have any sort of chance of achieving – it will NEVER accept actual peace and stability for Russia because of this – simply offer the illusion of it to get its ceasefire, buy time it needs to salvage and reset its Ukrainian proxies, and continue all of this as it has multiple times in the past (see: Minsk 1 & Minsk 2 for more information); Games where the US and its completely captured proxies, including BOTH Ukraine and the European Union pretend to disagree over the deal or even the fake left/right theater taking place within US politics simply offer the US multiple options to worm its way out of any deal Russia is foolish enough to agree to, including: 1. “We agreed to all of Russia’s terms, but the Europeans sent troops into Ukraine anyway, oops!” 2. “The Ukrainians only pretended to agree, now they are violating the deal – oops again!” 3. “Democrats took over and forced a reversal to all of our agreements with the Russians. double oops!” The US is agreement-incapable because its central unifying principle is pursuit of global primacy driven by interests who likewise, solely seek global primacy – until these interests change and a new unifying principle replaces the pursuit of global primacy, NOTHING ELSE WILL CHANGE – EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST DECEPTION. Period.
 

Posted by: arby | Nov 22 2025 19:24 utc | 74

One Romanyuk:

Noone will discuss this capitulation.
And we don’t car that some random dummy in the white house views our national interests differently. We shouldn’t care.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:24 utc | 75

ChatNPC,
 
turns out that Barak Ravid grew up in a town butally  cleansed of all Arabs and spent his IDF years in unit 8200. 
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Nov 22 2025 19:26 utc | 76

Peskov

Talks between Putin and Trump on the US [trap] plan is not planned at this stage.

 
Exactly, setting the trap by only waiting.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:27 utc | 77

Marjorie Taylor Greene will resign. Bye bya maga. America first means no other foreign country attached to America.
 
Wondering about which country she is thinking…?!   LOL!!!

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:29 utc | 78

Snow falls blocking roads in Ukraine… because the antidrone nets are falling under the snowload.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:31 utc | 79

@47 Norwegian
 
27 EU leaders to have EMERGENCY meeting Monday Nov 24 in Luanda on sidelines of EU-African Union Summit — EC President Costa Will discuss Ukraine Says EU remains ‘clear on principle that borders must not be changed by force’
 
Unless Israel is taking land from a neighboring nation.  In that case it’s ok.
 
@Karlof1 50
 
I suggest barflies read what Putin said about the draft plan and recall what he just said to his commanders that fulfillment of the SMO’s goals are “unconditional”–it would be much better for people to actually cite the real words versus their misinterpretation which harms their credibility. As for Kellogg being the leaker, that fits him to a T. One thing we don’t know is if Trump would’ve wanted Russia to know the draft’s contents, that it needed to be edited is very clear. But Putin was gracious in saying it provides groundwork for further talks, which gives nothing to either Russian hawks or doves on the issue. The overall context between the two Kremlin “press releases” is very clear. Oh, and we can’t let the fact that Putin called the Kiev creatures “a criminal gang” fade from the picture. 
 
The first step in any negotiations with Trump is the “Trump is the bestest most awesomest negotiator of all time!!!” step.  Now that Putin has THIS out of the way, well we are up to step 2, the real negotiations, which will be followed by Step 3:  Trump complains about Putin saying nice things while negotiating very hard.
 
My expectation is that under the cover of all of the hooplah and media frenzy of what’s happening politically in Kiev, Russia will make fairly large gains across the front line, will Shock and Awe Ukrainians into a Frozen Wasteland, and will diplomatically strengthen itself with respect to other nations.  Russia still has some landmines to tread carefully through, but things seem to be looking up for Russia right now.
 

Posted by: Woke American | Nov 22 2025 19:31 utc | 80

this conflict with Russia is existential to empire
 psychohistorian | Nov 22 2025 17:22 utc | 16
As you well know, dollar = energy = MIC
When N America shale/tar sands and ME light passed peak, the Russian gambit – which had been planned for decades – was finally rolled out
For those castigating US leadership, they simply had no choice. Why would anyone willingly accept defeat without even a small effort – no matter the odds?
At the end of the day, what’s the difference between military defeat and loss of the dollar vs simply losing the reserve?
A couple million soldiers (not ours), a shit ton of old tech kinetic weapons, a few $trillion here and there that will never be repaid … in the final analysis we merely reached the end point by different means.

Posted by: Markw | Nov 22 2025 19:32 utc | 81

Trump: the penis piano player can keep fighting as long as he wants.
 
Of course, if he does not and accept to give up Donbass, he will be killed by the banderists.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:32 utc | 82

The foreign corps of the afu is disbanded, because of critical losses.
 
The remaining mercenaries  (about  1000) will be transferred to regular units.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:34 utc | 83

Latvia is discussing abour the need to have nuclear weapons…  LOL!!!

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:36 utc | 84

Posted by: Markw | Nov 22 2025 19:32 utc | 81
 
Mostly correct. The pretty easy, inexpensive stuff is gone. Fracking is scraping the bottom and sides of the barrel. The Horror… The Horror…
 
Laugh my ass off. Now those poor uber-rich people have no choice but to make an honest effort to improve the lives of the little people. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 22 2025 19:37 utc | 85

Medvedev in charge would probably end the war pretty promptly.
pyrrhus | Nov 22 2025 17:24 utc |19
And repeat the mistake the Germans made in France. After a month of fighting they held it for 4 years, compared to the US which has been in D for 80 years.
The Russian SMO is going to not only defeat the USA/NATO in Ukraine, but destroy the EU as an effective threat for the next century.

Posted by: Markw | Nov 22 2025 19:42 utc | 86

Thanks b. 
 
Crooke’s take…… perhaps. To me, Trump has been consistent when it comes to Russia. He has been consistent when it comes to China and Iran. Trump had many meetings with Kissinger prior and just into his first term. Kissinger was sharp enough to capitalise on the Sino-Soviet split.
 
Gene Sharp was in Beijing when Gorbachev flew in to mark the end of the Sino soviet split. He organised and managed the riots that occurred. He did a speech/talk on it. Its on youtube somewhere. We only know it from the propaganda name Tiananmen Square.
 
Putin was not born yesterday so I just watch. Hardcore diplomacy…. on the front lines the attrition ratio is becoming ridiculous.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 22 2025 19:43 utc | 87

Posted by: Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:20 utc | 71

 
 
Ukraine’s energy and defense ministers have fled the country.  John Helmer says billions of US$ have been stolen by Ukrainian officials through Kolomoisky’s Privatbank (and quite likely EU/US politicians per Ukraine aid/USAID a.k.a. tax money laundering schemes).

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 22 2025 19:45 utc | 88

The US was founded on the principle of breaking agreements with other parties and has practiced it ever since. 
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 22 2025 18:47 utc | 52

 
I agree, it’s very clear.
 
I also can’t stop thinking that the whole world suddenly has forgotten about Epstein. May he come creeping back again soon …

Posted by: Avtonom | Nov 22 2025 19:48 utc | 89

Now those poor uber-rich people have no choice but to make an honest effort to improve the lives of the little people. 
Saint Jimmy | Nov 22 2025 19:37 utc | 85
LOL dont think so
AI/robotics creating mass unemployment
Full spectrum surveillance, DigID, UBI …
The so called little people are redundant; all they have remaining is ego (denial)
In a weird way, the West may come out on top again next century. We will be so advanced on the new social order that when Russia reaches peak and follows our lead, guess who will already be smoothly operating?
 

Posted by: Markw | Nov 22 2025 19:48 utc | 90

Naive | Nov 22 2025 19:14 utc | 66
 
I have now seen two videos of battle field executions by the Russian side. The first was a storm trooper coming through with a pistol finishing off the downed Americans, the second was the ukro drone operators.
 
Those videos come through the russian MoD. Hardcore warnings to the trash that fights for nato.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 22 2025 19:53 utc | 91

Posted by: Markw | Nov 22 2025 19:48 utc | 90
 
Hahaha… muh robotics. All of that depends on oil. All of it. Oil is the lynchpin and driver and this iteration of global culture would be radically different without it. Financial capitalism is a failure and will have to be almost completely reformed. I’m just not convinced that some kind of techno-police state rich geek wet dream is feasible or would even last very long. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 22 2025 19:56 utc | 92

Kissinger was sharp enough to capitalise on the Sino-Soviet split.
 
 
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 22 2025 19:43 utc | 87
 
A great deal of ink has been spilled over the idea that the Trump Administration wants a split. While that might indeed be a dream goal, it isn’t likely. Merely bringing Russia back into Western commodity markets will help if the price is right compared to “discounted” Chinese prices. The EU will be profoundly unhappy, but there’s not much they can do about it without accepting extortionist markups from middlemen.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 22 2025 19:57 utc | 93

Woke American | Nov 22 2025 19:31 utc | 80
 
Thanks for your reply. Russia learned a lot from Alaska about Trump, much of which Putin already knew from the phone calls. The Soviets then Russians compiled psychological profiles of American presidents, other adversaries and allies for what ought to be obvious reasons. As for negotiations with the “criminal gang” in Kiev, those will occur once the gang is gone. I expect that to happen sometime in 2026. As I’ve written before, since the Outlaw US Empire started the war it will need to be one of the signatories on the surrender document, which will then IMO need to be ratified by the Senate, where it possible faces defeat since a 2/3s majority is required. The Rada will also need to approve, IMO. And so will the Russian Duma. Meanwhile, Russia will continue to expand its territory to the point where all Great Russian lands are liberated that will likely take all of 2026 to accomplish.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 22 2025 20:00 utc | 94

Ukrainian soldiers complain about the training mission they went through in Poland, stating the training was inadequate and completely outdated compared to the reality of warfare in eastern Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTV6xy-hlSk

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 22 2025 20:04 utc | 95

Nonsense, typical armchair strategist.Kiev is just causing trouble and tying up far too many units. Kiev is not needed, except perhaps for media purposes.
Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 18:59 utc | 59
 
The televised trial of Gary Powers comes to mind. For a fox, you’re not too smart at times. Russia put out those few videos of battlefield executions for a reason. Only those who fight by the Geneva conventions are accorded the Geneva conventions. A televised trial of the vaunted ukro jewish nazi leadership would be a good warning to any other aspiring proxies of the anglo saxons.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 22 2025 20:06 utc | 96

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 22 2025 20:06 utc | 96
I have not contradicted that anywhere. The Russian position is clear: drone pilots and mercenaries will be killed.
 

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 22 2025 20:09 utc | 97

@4
 
It is indeed a slight difference between number of stars on a U.S. officers’ shoulder.
 
Most have no soul left by the first star.

Posted by: paddy | Nov 22 2025 20:15 utc | 98

Due to the sharply increased losses among foreign mercenaries in recent months, on November 21, 2025, Kyiv announced plans to disband the International Legion, which is subordinate to the Ground Forces, and transfer about 1,000 foreign mercenaries to regular Ukrainian units.The decision comes from the leadership of the Ground Forces and is related to a larger reorganization that will likely lead to many foreign mercenaries being transferred to the Assault Forces. Many Legion servicemen fear that this step will reduce unit cohesion and increase losses.Among the senior commanders involved in developing the plan are officers connected to the leadership of the Assault Forces, including Colonel Valentin Manko, whose past operational disputes and security issues, as well as influence on personnel decisions, have heightened the Legion officers’ concerns about how the restructuring will be carried out.The plan provides for the division of the Legion’s three combat battalions and the distribution of their members among existing Ukrainian units, as well as the transformation of the fourth battalion into a training center for incoming foreign recruits.Ground Forces officials present the reform as a way to standardize service conditions for foreign and Ukrainian servicemen, optimize personnel distribution, and eliminate the administrative autonomy that the Legion has had since early 2022, although no clear instructions have been given regarding command organization, provision of translators, internal logistics, or integration timelines.Soldiers and officers reported that they were given only minimal information about the timing of the transition, the procedure for working with groups by nationality, and how foreign volunteers will adapt to mixed Ukrainian units. Many warned that the dissolution of the Legion’s unified structure threatens operational effectiveness.

Posted by: unnamed | Nov 22 2025 20:16 utc | 99

I couldn’t care less who leaked it, as long as we get to know about it – I just like watching those EU puppets squirm – as they bitch about being left out of negotiations – as they destroy the EU’s economy – to prop up a Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine – and supply the Zio-Monsters with all sort to keep their genocide going – at great expense to every European.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 22 2025 20:17 utc | 100