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November 11, 2025
How To Start War With Russia – A British Think Tank Has Ideas

Once a while the writers at RUSI, the British Ministry of Defense think tank, produce some valuable research. Mostly though they are out to push war mongering nonsense. A recent piece in Foreign Affairs by Jack Waitling is of the later kind.

Ukraine’s Hardest WinterForeign Affairs, Nov 11 2025
With the Donbas in Peril, Europe Must Pressure Russia Now

I’ll leave the dozens of outright lies, false assertions and delusions therein for others to mock.

Waitling’s main thesis is that more (economic) pressure on Russia will somehow press it towards a ceasefire without concessions from the Ukrainian side. But his suggestions on how to do that are all designed to drag Europe into an even more direct battle with Russia.

To support the Ukrainian campaign against Russia’s oil industry the Europeans should close the Strait of Denmark:

For Ukraine’s international partners, the question is whether they are prepared to match Ukraine’s campaign against Russia’s oil infrastructure with comparable real rather than performative pressure on Russia’s economy. Above all, this means targeting Russia’s shadow fleet: the hundreds of decrepit tankers, operating under flags of convenience, often without insurance or trained crew, to move its oil to India and China. This will require denying the 80 percent of Russian seaborne oil exports that pass through the Strait of Denmark and threatening secondary sanctions against the ports where shadow fleet vessels unload.

Some European governments—including Denmark—have cited the 1857 Treaty of Copenhagen, an international agreement that established tariff-free transit of commercial shipping through Danish waters, as a legal barrier to action. But this is an excuse rather than a real obstacle. The countries that have a Baltic coastline today, excluding Russia, could agree to a new treaty requiring ships to meet certain standards of insurance and certification to be allowed to navigate the Baltic—for example, on grounds of ecological protection. Since the aging vessels of the shadow fleet do not meet these requirements, such a treaty would deny them entry into the straits. This would not impinge on the principle of tariff-free transit for commercial shipping through Danish waters.

Nice idea. But would enforce such nonsense and how?


Neither Russia, nor any non-NATO country, would recognize such new treaty. Ships not insured in London, i.e. the ‘shadow fleet’, would continue to sail but be accompanied by Russian naval forces. What country will be willing to sink the Russian frigate that protects a ‘shadow ship’ convoy from outside intervention? On what legal grounds?

Ukraine does not have a recruitment problem, Waitling claims, but must receive better in country training by NATO forces:

There has been widespread confusion about Ukraine’s manpower situation. On the one hand, Ukraine has enough people to keep fighting. Nationally, there is no manpower problem. But the number of combat-ready infantry in the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been declining for almost two years. At some point, it will hit a level that will render it impossible to hold the front, barring a shift in Kyiv’s approach to force generation.

The challenge is less about pulling people off the street and more about improving the quality and capacity of training and integration of Ukrainian infantry into combat brigades. There are more people serving in the Ukrainian military today than at any point during the war, but the military is unable to train its personnel to perform frontline combat functions. To solve this growing problem, Ukraine’s new Army Corps will need to establish brigade rotations and allow better units to help train the less capable ones.

With more than 160,000 desertions this year alone in Ukraine one might doubt that better training would somehow result in more Ukrainian troops on the frontline.

This is an area in which Ukraine’s international partners can make a significant contribution.

European states could also deliver in-country military training. By allowing Ukrainian forces to train on their equipment, in a setting in which European trainers would be supported by the Ukrainian commanders who will ultimately employ these soldiers, such a step would directly address Ukraine’s force generation challenges. It is true that the presence of European trainers in Ukraine would provide an inviting target for Russia. But Russia has had limited success targeting Ukrainian trainers, so this is clearly a manageable risk, and it could play a key role in building the units Ukraine needs to sustain its defensive line.

What can European NATO trainers, which have zero recent experience in war, teach Ukrainian soldiers who have fought a high intensity conflict for over three years? Who will be willing to send these trainers to Ukraine? What is the plan after dozens of them die due to the inevitable Russian missile attack that will follow such their deployment?

Waitling does not only want to push western ‘trainers’ into Ukraine, but also their air forces:

Poland and Romania could request Ukrainian permission to engage air threats over Ukrainian airspace that are approaching NATO’s border, just as Israel intercepted many of Iran’s Shahed-136 drones in Jordanian airspace. Without creating an obligation for Poland, Romania, and others to engage targets over Ukraine, such permission would set the stage for deconflicting European aircraft with Ukrainian air defenses. In this way, the European coalition could project airpower into Ukraine at short notice.

Project airpower into Ukraine for exactly what? To shoot down $50,000 drones with $2,000,000 missiles? Or is it to bomb Russian positions? One wonders how many minutes any pilot attempting that would have to survive.

All three measures Waitling foresees, the closing of the Denmark Strait for Russian oil, the introduction of western trainers into Ukraine and the projection of airpower would massively increase the potential for a direct conflict with Russia.

It seems that this is exactly what Waitling is aiming to do.

Comments

RF checkmate – escort these tankers in convoys with the naval assets of the RF Baltic and Atlantic fleets……….lets see the non existent RN counter that move…..LOL

Posted by: tobias cole | Nov 11 2025 18:12 utc | 1

I read “Shadow Fleet”  and understood the guy is lost in Hollywood Brain. 

Posted by: Niralof | Nov 11 2025 18:14 utc | 2

The Brits put up someone like Truss as PM. What more could be expected of their stink tanks.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2025 18:15 utc | 3

Its way too late in the game for all this neo con UK and NATO nonsense………the fronts are in collapse and the SBU is ordering its hit squads to murder the UAF conscripts voting with their feet to go home………the game is over.
This is exactly what the Nazis did to the German troops (mostly very young and old) who voted the same way in 1945……they murdered them and hung them from lamposts……how did that work out for the morale of the troops?

Posted by: tobias cole | Nov 11 2025 18:16 utc | 4

Waitling may as well council bringing Russia to its knees with a giant inflatable comedy banana. 

Posted by: Niralof | Nov 11 2025 18:18 utc | 5

We are witnessing in real time the collapse of Nazi Ukraine………fronts in collapse, military coup rumors abound, close associates of Volo fleeing to Israel (who else would take them), SBU hit squads roaming the streets, electric grid failing, rail net wrecked, heating supplies including wood and wood pellets rationed……………this house of cards is done as dinner…..

Posted by: tobias cole | Nov 11 2025 18:20 utc | 6

Much like Germany in February – May 1945……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Nov 11 2025 18:21 utc | 7

Regarding how safe Western trainers will be in Ukraine if they begin to train Ukrainian troops, Waitling reasons that “Russia has had limited success targeting Ukrainian trainers, so this is clearly a manageable risk…”
 
Manageable by what standard-?
 
Ten die-?  Fifty die-?
 
As w/ other delusional think-tank white papers from the West, the thought done thunk itself.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Nov 11 2025 18:22 utc | 8

Waitling forgot to note that Russia has a small access port located along a heavily fortified canyon. Now if a single fighter flown by a true believer can use mystic insight to fire a missile at the precise time and place then it will champagne corks in Moscow by Christmas.

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 11 2025 18:22 utc | 9

Waitling forgot to note that Russia has a small access port located along a heavily fortified canyon. Now if a single fighter flown by a true believer can use mystic insight to fire a missile at the precise time and place then it will champagne corks in Moscow by Christmas.

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 11 2025 18:22 utc | 10

It seems that this is exactly what Waitling is aiming to do.
b
 
Yes. England is once again trying to push the continental European countries, while remaining in the background itself.But the ideas not only fail due to legal issues, they would also be suicide for Europe (which England apparently wants).
 
It is becoming increasingly clear that only a massive blow against England can stop the war in Ukraine.
 

Posted by: smartfox@ | Nov 11 2025 18:24 utc | 11

I’m always amazed at the dangerous falsehoods and foolishness people will create and support to get paid or retain a job. Well, at 68, maybe I’m not as amazed as when younger. I was involved in a few mostly worthless activities when employed but at least they were supported by evidence and facts and represented an attempt to improve something. I’ll never completely understand people like this or their incredibly dangerous world views. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 18:25 utc | 12

rusi thinkin tank
chatham house
brookings 
soros,klaus schwab the decks 
the fabian society
all rothschild
land pirates name stealers identity thieves rotting  countries out
converting the sovereign man into goyim animal since waterloo 
 
babylonian talmoo dick khazharian talking shops and witchcraft venues
 
 

Posted by: normal wisdom | Nov 11 2025 18:37 utc | 13

The Brit fantasy of the final echo of the Hanseatic League, as the final battle of WW2 plays out in the present day Donbass. Zombies all. 

Posted by: frithguild | Nov 11 2025 18:40 utc | 14

much of russian oil to china goes overland, alluding empire’s detection.  as india shares a border with china & is a brics member india may consider relaxing its distrust of china.   india refines some russian oil,  i suppose after it’s refined india must transport some of it by sea to europe, i can’t see india expecting russia to employ a shadow fleet to do so?  perhaps she may as well transport it from russia.  
this morning sputnik reports that russia is going to employ more indian workers.  russia has an abundance of rupees more than she needs, perhaps she will begin to take build tankers in india seriously. 

Posted by: emersonreturn | Nov 11 2025 18:42 utc | 15

Imo, Russia won’t need to deploy Navy ships to foil a blockade of the Strait of Denmark. Oil tankers are ships so if each tanker is equipped with 2 excellent Russian anti-ship missiles, the crew can deal with any potential acts of Piracy/mischief if push comes to shove-off.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2025 18:43 utc | 16

That RUSI article is the funniest thing I have read in ages.

Posted by: Merkin Scot | Nov 11 2025 18:43 utc | 17

It seems that this [a direct conflict with Russia] is exactly what Waitling is aiming to do.
 
And he’ll probably also be the first to board a plane towards a safe country across the Atlantic when all hell breaks loose. These kind of people should be parachuted to the front with play toy weapons.

Posted by: xor | Nov 11 2025 18:43 utc | 18

 There are more people serving in the Ukrainian military today than at any point during the war,

Well given they started with 600k, have recruited some 2-2.5m more and they reckon only 100k are dead presumably 100k long term wounded and 150k AWOL there must be 2,500,000 of them left.  None have been demobbed.No wonder they mislaid some 11,000 at Pokrovsk.  Nowhere else to put them.
 

Posted by: Michael Droy | Nov 11 2025 18:45 utc | 19

Imo, Russia won’t need to deploy Navy ships to foil a blockade of the Strait of Denmark. Oil tankers are ships so if each tanker is equipped with 2 excellent Russian anti-ship missiles, the crew can deal with any potential acts of Piracy/mischief if push comes to shove-off.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 11 2025 18:43 utc | 16
 
No clue about maritime law

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 11 2025 18:47 utc | 20

ready to fight to the last Ukrainian, the Valor of NATO Warmongers is so impressive 

Posted by: Scottindallas | Nov 11 2025 18:54 utc | 21

Re: tobias cole #6
 
<em>Volo fleeing to Israel (who else would take them) &lt;/em>
 
Jolani from Idlib … a head hunter until recruited by western intelligence post-quake disaster
 
<a href=”https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/two-views-on-the-syrian-presidents-visit-to-the-white-house-and-whats-next/”>Jihadist Syrian president Jolani welcomed in the White House </a>
 
Volodymyr key factor with drone warfare to overthrow Assad in December 2024. Joint operation UK-USA-Israel-Ukraine-Türkiye.

Posted by: Oui | Nov 11 2025 19:01 utc | 22

Posted by: Scottindallas | Nov 11 2025 18:54 utc | 21
 
Yeah. Have you encountered any of the numerous “chicken hawk” war fighter keyboard warriors here in the US? We have a lot of them in congress and think tanks and in the general public. Most of them have never been within 1,000 miles of a war zone. Some are veterans but the only injuries they sustained were paper cuts or bruises in a barracks brawl. I’m just getting old and cranky and less enamored with people every day. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 19:02 utc | 23

As I reported yesterday, a glimpse at Russia’s economic health is indicated by Sberbank’s record year, SberBank Performance as an Economic Indicator, where Gref told Putin 2026 would be even better. If you’re closely following what’s happening on the LOC, you know that a major breakthrough is happening at the southern end of Donetsk as the woven river pattern there gets forded and the small garrisons defeated as the last several days of reports here show in great detail. Once the Gaiychur River line gets crossed, there’re few small cities or other natural defensive possibilities to slow the Russian advance. Even if the Brits could drop their entire Army into that region, they wouldn’t last very long. IMO, the only hope for Ukraine is one that will be refused–an organized withdrawal to behind the Dnieper and negotiations–because Nazis don’t do that. They’ll try to hold Kramatorsk and end up losing the entire garrison there, which is their last concentrated troop area. Soon the assault in the Kherson area will erupt which will cause a marked increase in the actions of Odessa partisans. The green reserves in Western Ukraine will need to be used, but you can be sure Russia’s waiting for them to be moved so they can be Iscandared en-route.   

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 11 2025 19:04 utc | 24

what is truly outrageous is they are publishing this on remembrance day – nov 11th, 2025… instead of acknowledging the futility of war and all the hardship and suffering that goes with it, they want to foment it!! these are sick bastards and are a part of the root cause of the perpetuation of war….
 
i want to honour the draft dodgers and conscientious objectors to war today… kudos to them for having the ability to recognize how living as savages is outdated and that we need to embrace love and empathy for others, as opposed to making war on them.. really, the fear these folks sell to others is truly sickening and disgusting… that they might profit from it, at the cost of other innocent people dying, is also outrageous and unacceptable.. 
 
peace out – james

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:05 utc | 25

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:05 utc | 25
 
‘Armistice Day is sacred. Veterans Day is not.’ – Kurt Vonnegut 
‘Ever cry from the sound of silence?’ – Caveman
 
When The Guns Fell Silent

Posted by: Caveman | Nov 11 2025 19:10 utc | 26

As for Russian Navy escorts, they have many ready to go. I suggest this article by Martyanov that informs one about them.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 11 2025 19:11 utc | 27

related 
 
thomas fazi from today ‘the cold war never ended’…. would be good to read the full compact article.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:12 utc | 28

We need to return to the demographic arguement against Ukraine because, if anything, it is more serious now.
All these apologists and You Tube trash can benefit Russia by supporting a delusional image of Ukraine somehow winning.  So, no big deal, nothing to worry about – while Russia makes the state non-viable.  Young people running away can’t return even if they wanted to because conditions will be primitive, the land mined, the soil poisoned, no jobs and the threat of conscription.  This path is harsh but Russia has no choice because Zelensky will not leave power and his regime will never compromise. This should be obvious by now.

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 11 2025 19:12 utc | 29

This is looking to be the perfect storm.  The fall rainy season, winter, and then the spring rainy season. A flurry of punches that Ukraine can’t absorb.   Hopefully, the Ukrainian army decides  it doesn’t want to die for nothing and  collapses….

Posted by: ctiger | Nov 11 2025 19:13 utc | 30

As for Russian Navy escorts, they have many ready to go. I suggest this article by Martyanov that informs one about them.
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 11 2025 19:11 utc | 27
 
Furthermore, to my knowledge, if the tankers were armed, they would be considered warships.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 11 2025 19:14 utc | 31

@ Caveman | Nov 11 2025 19:10 utc | 26
 
thanks for all of this..  i am listening to bill carrothers ‘armistice 1918’ double cd right now.. unfortunately youtube doesn’t share this recording, but there are some live recordings of the band from that past that are on youtube here… 

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:16 utc | 32

All the output from RUSI, ISW, and RAND (among others) could be gathered together in one volume titled: How To Lose A War With Russia

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 11 2025 19:17 utc | 33

A short video and Two songs and  for Remembrance Day:
Christmas Truce of 1914 video (13mins)
and the Band Played Waltzing Matilda
Nein, meine Söhne geb’ Ich Nicht

Posted by: exile | Nov 11 2025 19:20 utc | 34

james | Nov 11 2025 19:05 utc | 25
 
That post of your reminds me of something from some years ago. Glorious PM Abbott want to be a war PM. Massive promotion of Anzac day. Not on the futility of war, but the glory of war. Sister got all excited about it and was asking about grandfather so did a bit research. Fucking glory of war….. grandfather had his trophies, the buttons, belt buckles and cigarette lighters, but experience of war soon turned him into a peacenik. He never spoke about it, did not let his son go to war.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2025 19:22 utc | 35

“Some European governments—including Denmark—have cited the 1857 Treaty of Copenhagen, an international agreement that established tariff-free transit of commercial shipping through Danish waters, as a legal barrier to action. But this is an excuse rather than a real obstacle.”
 
Treaties are tricky.
Lieutenant Governors of Upper Canada (1791-1841) 

  • John Graves Simcoe: 1791–1796

 
He was a awful drunk and in 1790’s he  signed a number of treaties with  Indigenous tribes “Lord Simcoe” refers to John Graves Simcoe, the first Lieutenant Governor of Upper Canada, who was involved in several significant land agreements with First Nations in the late 18th century. These are generally referred to as Treaties 3, 3½, 4, and 5 in the Crown’s numbering system, or sometimes by their Indigenous nations”
 
Simcoe was certain he had all the Ontario  land but his aides informed him that were hundreds even thousand of other small tribes Simcoe told them to basically, “Fuck Off”
 
Anyways fast forward 200 years or so the first Trudeau -Pierre wanted to not have the British Monarch as the head of state, makes sense.
 
However, if Canada did have a Canadian as President that would mean, that the UK broke the treaty and it’s not transferable so all land titles revert back to the Indigenous.
Some people in British Columbia can’t get mortgages any more as the title is ‘tricky’- fucking banks.

Posted by: canuk | Nov 11 2025 19:26 utc | 36

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:16 utc | 32
 
Thank you for this, James, I’ve never heard it before. ‘Christmas, 1914’ is truly haunting 

Posted by: Caveman | Nov 11 2025 19:28 utc | 37

 smartfox | Nov 11 2025 19:14 utc | 31
 
Thanks for your reply. Several months ago, I opined tankers should be equipped with drones; however, such an addition could be spun into such ships being “armed” and thus not neutral ships. NATO must be very careful with its actions as it’s so very weak and has no defense against potential Russian discipline meted out as a result of such actions.
 
I see Lavrov had another media presser today where he goes into much greater detail in his answers than the ones provided last Sunday with Ria Novosti. I’ll have a translation of the Russian up later today. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 11 2025 19:30 utc | 38

@ Peter AU1 | Nov 11 2025 19:22 utc | 35
 
i spoke with my brother shortly before i wrote that…  he was of a similar mind to you – glory of war – and it really pissed him off this glory of war on remembrance day…  the fact is war is ugly and horrid.. how can we embrace this day and some constructive and positive way, as opposed to listening to chimpanzees ( t Jack Waitling ) ell us how to make more of this?? enough is enough.. lets find a way to get beyond the glory of the past when it involves the incredible horror of it where so many have needlessly died…  i am with your grandfather.. thanks.. 

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:30 utc | 39

I liked it’s earlier edition better…before the last line got edited out;
 
…and pink-ponies with sugar-sprinkles for EVERYBODY!!! 
 
Nice way to pass Armistice-Day…contemplating  an Englishman plotting another world war.  Hey Jack Waitling , don’t forget to tell everybody; “…they’ll be home by Christmas…it’s an English tradition don’t ‘ya know…

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 11 2025 19:31 utc | 40

@ Caveman | Nov 11 2025 19:28 utc | 37
 
the actual album – a double album – is really a wonderful musical presentation of the past in regards this… bill carrothers is a jazz musician, but also a historian.. i admire what he has done… 

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:33 utc | 41

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:33 utc | 41
 
Seems like an interesting guy for sure. Taking on the American Civil War with jazz orchestration sounds like it could be pretty cool. I will definitely check out more of the Armistice record, probably go try to find it in an actual record store today or tomorrow. Thank you James!!

Posted by: Caveman | Nov 11 2025 19:38 utc | 42

Very much related from Brian Berletic:
https://sovereignista.com/2025/11/11/us-plans-for-china-blockade-continue-taking-shape/

Posted by: JB | Nov 11 2025 19:39 utc | 43

Presumably, Waitling will *not* be the first Brit to volunteer for service in Ukraine. 

Posted by: Rob | Nov 11 2025 19:42 utc | 44

NATO must be very careful with its actions as it’s so very weak and has no defense against potential Russian discipline meted out as a result of such actions.Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 11 2025 19:30 utc | 38
 
Russia must also be cautious there. The Europeans are trying to provoke the Baltic states into a response from Russia, which America can then use as grounds for invoking Article 5.
Even though Russia is stronger there, there is great potential for escalation.
remember https://ria.ru/20210623/esminets-1738261770.html
 

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 11 2025 19:45 utc | 45

Medals Zelensky handed to AFU troops are falling apart, just like the country.
https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1988275001947295843

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 11 2025 19:56 utc | 46

Thank you b, for the invaluable work and effort you are putting down.
“With more than 160,000 desertions”.
 
May i suggest that there are not that vast numbers of desertions- but these are numbers of killed and missing in action (buried under rubble). You do not pay the families of deserters!!
 

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 11 2025 19:59 utc | 47

@ Paul from Norway | Nov 11 2025 19:59 utc | 47
The figure of 160,000 is quite old; I read it two months ago. Now it should be 240,000 (two per minute), but I cannot say how many of them are genuine deserters and how many are dead but have not been recovered and are counted as “missing.”

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 11 2025 20:05 utc | 48

What country will be willing to sink the Russian frigate that protects a ‘shadow ship’ convoy from outside intervention? 
The USA could do that.

Posted by: Hypno | Nov 11 2025 20:05 utc | 49

There was a war going on for centuries between Denmark (The tribe of Dan) who 100% controlled Norway for some 600 years, and Sweden (the Kazarians, think wallenbergs) over the Straits of Denmark. The Hanseatic league (the german branch of tribe) was also involved in the early stages.
Norway is militarizing/ building a large air airbase in the south of Norway too controll the Strait from the north and Denmark are controlling the Strait from the south. So… nothing changes. The tribe is still seeking control 

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 11 2025 20:10 utc | 50

What country will be willing to sink the Russian frigate that protects a ‘shadow ship’ convoy from outside intervention? The USA could do that.
Posted by: Hypno | Nov 11 2025 20:05 utc | 49
 
Certainly not. Trump has stated that it is now solely an EU matter and he is out of it.Furthermore, this would naturally provoke a response from Russia. Would Trump be prepared to sacrifice an American ship, or even more? I do not believe so, as that would be just millimeters away from a world war.

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 11 2025 20:22 utc | 51

Posted by: Hypno | Nov 11 2025 20:05 utc | 49
 
It could but it won’t. Americans only directly attack countries that aren’t capable of bombing or invading the US. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 20:25 utc | 52

* closing of the Denmark Strait for Russian oil
 
Closing off international waters can only be achieved by force, which means war.
According to The Guardian, it is also questionable whether this is in Britain’s interests.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/24/uk-helping-russia-pay-for-its-war-on-ukraine-via-loophole-on-refined-oil-imports
 
 
*introduction of western trainers into Ukraine
 
 
“Pre-2022 training (2014-2022)
Operation Orbital (UK): Launched in 2015, the UK provided training to Ukrainian forces until February 2022.
Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine (JMTG-U) (US-led): Operated in western Ukraine at the Yavoriv Combat Training Center, training thousands of Ukrainian personnel until the 2022 invasion.
Operation Unifier (Canada): Began in 2015 and trained over 33,000 personnel before 2022.
Bilateral efforts: Other countries like Poland and Lithuania also made substantial contributions to training efforts.
EU advisory mission: The EU had an advisory and training mission for Ukraine, with a civilian mission operating since 2014. 
Post-2022 training (since February 2022)
Operation Interflex (UK-led): A major training program established by the UK, which has trained over 56,000 Ukrainian troops since June 2022.
Multinational effort: Nine other countries (New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Lithuania, Netherlands, Finland, and Norway) joined Operation Interflex to support training efforts.
Shift in focus: Training has adapted to current warfare, with instructors combining their expertise with Ukrainian experience to teach skills for the large-scale conflict, say officials.
Training in other countries: The U.S. European Command repositioned some training to Germany, and the EU has been training thousands of soldiers across its member states.
Training on foreign equipment: Many specialists have been trained on over 160 different types of foreign military equipment. ”
 
 
*Poland and Romania could request Ukrainian permission to engage air threats over Ukrainian airspace
 
 
Like b said – What would be the benefit?
And Russia can do things without seeking Ukraine’s permission.
 
 

Posted by: BlindSpot | Nov 11 2025 20:25 utc | 53

Not a good look.
 Former Mossad Chief Yossi Cohen, in his new book, writes that he visited the Kremlin and got permission from Russian President Vladimir Putin to strike Iranian arms shipments in Syria and Iraq headed for Hezbollah and various Iran-backed militiasThe Russian and Israeli Deputy Chiefs of Staff decided to set up a direct phone line, coordinating every strike, with Russia explicitly giving the green light for Israeli attacks.Cohen says this Russian cooperation was ‘essential’ in dismantling Iranian supply networks in the region, because Russian-operated S-300 and S-400 systems in Syria would have been a threat to Israeli aviation. ”
 
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/25311

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 20:33 utc | 54

” It could but it won’t. Americans only directly attack countries that aren’t capable of bombing or invading the US. 
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 20:25 utc | 52
 
What about Iran ?

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 20:34 utc | 55

The bit about “superior European training” is the biggest fundamental reason why the UK, and broadly speaking the West, is doomed in this war. They’re blinded by an overriding sense of racial/cultural/ethnic supremacy over those backwards slavs, Russian or Ukrainian or what have you. When Waitling writes about it, there’s no doubt in his mind that British/Western military people are far better and more skilled than Ukrainian or Russian ones, so much so that imparting some of that magical supremacy training upon Kiev’s recruits would easily defeat the Russians.
Same reason is why he is so calmly talking about “projecting airpower” – there is zero doubt in his mind that Western planes and pilots have nothing to fear from backward untermensch Russian technology in air defense or air-to-air combat.
Their entire train of thought rests on this kind of “supremacy ranking” prejudices. Their entire judgement chain is based on assuming own supremacy and Russian (and Ukrainian, in fact) inferiority as an axiom. That’s exactly as stupid as assuming the outcome of a boxing match based on the race of the boxers, but that’s exactly the same kind of thinking that is at work here. Lethally dangerous when it makes one enter into a conflict one has no chance of winning simply because of presuming inherent vast superiority over the hated opponent.

Posted by: Red Outsider | Nov 11 2025 20:38 utc | 56

Posted by: james | Nov 11 2025 19:05 utc
A beautiful and meaningful statement, good man.

Posted by: norecovery | Nov 11 2025 20:39 utc | 57

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 20:34 utc | 55
 
Since when is Iran capable of directly attacking or invading the US? US elites don’t care if a few formerly unemployed morons get killed at some desert base. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 20:39 utc | 58

What about Iran ?
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 20:34 utc | 55
 
As a means of exerting influence in the war in Ukraine? I don’t see the connection.Besides, they are now cautious with Iran because it would then likely attack not only the US but also Israel.
So, all just fantasies of a desk jockey.
 

Posted by: smartfox | Nov 11 2025 20:41 utc | 59

Unless Russia shows determination to punish English thieves these pirate race will never leave a Russia alone. Never understood why Russia does not  punish English thieves and plotters.
 

Posted by: sam | Nov 11 2025 20:42 utc | 60

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 20:33 utc | 54
 
Uh huh…. We’re all stupid enough to trust a former Mossad chief. (eyeroll)

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 20:42 utc | 61

 

Russian expert links MiG-31 hijacking attempt to UK’s supersonic lag

Alexander Stepanov also noted 

only England needs to be taken out/sorted out because it is England only which plots all major war like recently Ukraine war. Iraq war. gulf war, Syrian war , Libyan war etc! 
 
only England needs to be taken out/sorted out because it is England only which plots all major war like recently Ukraine war. Iraq war. gulf war, Syrian war , Libyan war etc!

Posted by: sam | Nov 11 2025 20:45 utc | 62

Sorry for the off-topic… A Turkish military plane crashed while flying over Georgia, apparently returnimg home from Azerbaijan. From Colonel Cassad’s Telegram channel:
“As a result of a plane crash in Georgia, 20 Turkish military personnel who participated in a military parade in Baku died.
The military transport plane was carrying them from Azerbaijan to Turkey.The aircraft crashed in a mountainous area. Everyone on board died.The black boxes are currently being searched for. The search for the bodies of the deceased is also ongoing.
Judging by the video, the aircraft broke apart in the air for unknown reasons.”
 
In Russian: https://t.me/boris_rozhin/186591?single

Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Nov 11 2025 20:46 utc | 63

” Uh huh…. We’re all stupid enough to trust a former Mossad chief. (eyeroll)
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 20:42 utc | 61
 
A Mossad chief is pretty high up and Russia has a track record of letting Israel bomb whomever they wanted in Syria and  of preventing Syrian AA systems from targeting Israeli planes. Not to mention the statements from Syrian and Iranian generals about what happened there. 
You seem to have short term memory lapses. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 21:18 utc | 64

Military escort of commercial ships is not a viable option. If Europe is as desperate and foolish as it sounds, Russia should turn to game theory to respond.
If freedom of navigation is restricted, Russia should pull out of the treaty banning floating sea mines. Apart from oil and gas trade, Russia depends little on sea freight. Russia has the world’s largest stockpile of naval mines which can sink Europe and the UK economically who are already on the cusp of recession and turmoil.
Alternatively Russia should supply seamines to non state actors to deploy them manually and/or using sea drones. Europe depends on sea freight for most of its economic survival. Any disruption will sink it.
During this winter Russia should pressure OPEC partners to reduce supply to boost income and profit. Middle East has a fragile peace and it is disturbed easily.
Submarine internet cables are another Achilles heel of European war mongers. 
Trump said yesterday that USA wastes no resources on Ukraine now and weapons it supplies to Ukraine are bought by Europeans. 
All the more reason to bust European economies.
 
 
 

Posted by: Jason | Nov 11 2025 21:19 utc | 65

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 21:18 utc | 64
 
All israel does is lie. It’s a lie machine. It lies about genocide and killing and raping children. Hahaha…. I just can’t take anything you post seriously after that. Just pathetic. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 21:20 utc | 66

” Since when is Iran capable of directly attacking or invading the US? US elites don’t care if a few formerly unemployed morons get killed at some desert base. 
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 20:39 utc | 58
Why would the elites care if some “useless” US civilians died ? Iran could have savaged the only thing US elites care about. Israel. 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 21:23 utc | 67

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 21:23 utc | 67
 
It did. Israel was hit hard and… drum roll… lied about it. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 21:25 utc | 68

” All israel does is lie. It’s a lie machine. It lies about genocide and killing and raping children. Hahaha…. I just can’t take anything you post seriously after that. Just pathetic. 
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 21:20 utc | 66
 
Actually, your poor attempts at deflection are pathetic. All the clues are starting to add up, something very suspect occurred in Syria, Lebanon, and Gaza. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 21:25 utc | 69

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 21:25 utc | 69
 
Hey everyone…. It’s an AIPAC/ISRAELI troll. Done here. Everyone knows that israel has gone completely insane. Nazi Germa officials were more trustworthy. Have fun throwing sh-t against the wall here.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 21:28 utc | 70

Sam @60
 
True that. UK has been the evil empire for way too long and got to be busted for peace in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America. Colonial UK still has military bases in all these places and have leased some to USA. 
Russian nuclear deterrence doctrine of escalate to de-escalate works well on the UK. On paper entire NATO thing will go to war against Russia if the UK is attacked but in reality none of them will risk becoming another post-nuked UK and they will avoid war.

Posted by: Jason | Nov 11 2025 21:31 utc | 71

*** Russia should supply seamines to non state actors to deploy them manually and/or using sea drones. ***
Posted by: Jason | Nov 11 2025 21:19 utc | 65
 
A “remora” strategy to protect shipping. Why use a big and expensive escort when you can use a semi autonomous platform with defensive capabilities and perhaps a miniature nuclear reactor for propulsion. Attacking something like that – downing a nuclear reactor in your own waters or major adjacent shipping channel  – would be quite a poison pill. 

Posted by: frithguild | Nov 11 2025 21:47 utc | 72

Interesting. This intersects with an article by Hal Turner. He’s reporting on what Russa just announced…
 

Russia says Ukrainian-British plot to hijack hypersonic missile foiled

 

Hal Turner World November 11, 2025 Hits: 9602

 

Russia has thwarted a Ukrainian-British plan to hijack a MiG-31 jet equipped with a hypersonic missile and to use it to carry out a false flag attack on a major NATO airbase, the country’s state security service reported.
The FSB, Russia’s domestic intelligence agency, said in a statement carried by state media on Tuesday that the alleged operation was directed by the main intelligence directorate of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence and “its UK handlers”.
The plot sought to convince a Russian pilot to fly a MiG-31 armed with a Kinzhal air-launched ballistic missile – a key weapon in Moscow’s arsenal – to the Romanian city of Constanta, where NATO is building its largest airbase in Southeastern Europe.
The plane would then be shot down by air defenses, providing a “large-scale provocation”.
Russian state television showed pictures of messages and recordings of a man who they said was working for Ukrainian and British intelligence.
The individual reportedly offered $3m to the pilot to take part in the scheme, as well as citizenship of any European country of his choosing.
An FSB official claimed that British-founded group Bellingcat – which is branded as “undesirable” by the Russian government – was involved in the operation or was used as a cover or intermediary, according to the state-run TASS news agency.
The Russian security service criticized its Ukrainian and British counterparts for showing a “lack of originality in plots”, pointing to a similar allegation it made in 2022, months after the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
At the time, the FSB said the United Kingdom had participated in a Ukrainian operation to hijack an advanced Sukhoi Su-34 fighter by buying off the pilot and offering Western citizenship.
Bellingcat has not immediately responded to the accusation of its involvement in the latest claim. The organization did reject the FSB’s framing in the 2022 allegations.
Russia, Ukraine and its Western allies persist in fighting a vicious information war as the war on the ground shows little sign of easing.
Russian ground forces have been pushing deeper into eastern Ukraine in an attempt to take control of more land and resources, but movement on the front line remains incremental.
The two sides are also engaged in a war of attrition in the skies as they launch hundreds of aerial strikes against each other on a daily basis.
Russian attacks, some of them using Kinzhal missiles, have heavily damaged Ukrainian energy infrastructure over the past week.

 

Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Nov 11 2025 22:00 utc | 73

NATO can go pound sand with its blockade of the Danish straits: Russian LNG and the Arctic Silk Road: China Inherits the Energy Denied to Europe
“The Volkhov-Murmansk pipeline will redefine Beijing’s energy dependence.”
And then, there is the Power of Siberia 2: “How the Power of Siberia 2 Deal Could Reshape Global Energy

Posted by: JohnH | Nov 11 2025 22:03 utc | 74

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 20:33 utc | 54
 
A serious analyst will note that intelligence information rarely becomes public. He will take into account that a former head of Mossad is aware of the consequences of publishing his statements. He will consider Israel’s relationship with Russia, Israel’s relationship with Iran, and Russia’s relationship with Iran.
He will question what the benefit for Russia would be in such an agreement.
Israel has definitely bombed targets in Syria. Syria was targeted by the US, UK, France, Germany… Russia has supported Syria’s elected president with a limited presence and complex logistics.
Now the chosen one from Israel comes to Russia and then announces:
 
‘I visited the Kremlin to explain in detail how and why we had to attack this route, as the weapons were finding their way to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, within Syria, and to Hezbollah in Lebanon,’ he wrote.
 
According to Cohen, Putin accepted the logic of the Israeli position and suggested establishing a direct channel of communication between the armed forces to avoid misunderstandings.
 
‘Putin followed my logic, suggested that our respective deputy chiefs of staff draw a red line every time we planned an attack, and gave his blessing,’ he revealed.

 
Hmm, someone is offering to coordinate the attacks? So to say where and when, in order not to come into conflict with air defences? A few warehouses will probably be destroyed, but the Iranians can be informed, saving on air defence missiles.
Putin thinks: Правда? Договорились!

Posted by: BlindSpot | Nov 11 2025 22:03 utc | 75

Thanks b.
It´s RUSI. Sigh. What´d you expect…

Posted by: AG | Nov 11 2025 22:04 utc | 76

People often overlook the other angles.
 
Who? – Russia.
 
What? – War.
 
Where? – Presumably Russia.
 
When? – When pigs start flying
 
Why? – Nazis gotta Nazi.
 
How? – Obviously terrorism.
 
As always, everyone should get what they want, good and hard.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 11 2025 22:06 utc | 77

Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Nov 11 2025 22:00 utc | 73
 
Article here:
 
https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/1557475-fsb-mig-31-popytka-ugona-ukraina

Posted by: General Factotum | Nov 11 2025 22:08 utc | 78

The west claims to be an international community of laws…until one of those inconvenient laws gets in the way of something it wants to do. Then it argues that you should simply write new laws which say the west is free to do as it pleases. As several; have astutely pointed out, it is illegal for commercial shipping to sail without insurance, and despite the efforts of western bullshitters like The Economist to make ‘not insured in London by British underwriters like Lloyds equivalent to ‘no insurance!!’, there are other underwriters. Moreover, Russia chose other insurers simply because it was a fairly-transparent British plan to control who was allowed to ship commercial goods by sea through controlling who was allowed to get insurance.
There are some commercial vessels sailing under western insurers which are older than most ships in the alleged ‘shadow fleet’, and some have dodgy maintenance records as well. And if you violate the rules, the newness of your vessel and the currency of its insurance might not help you much in avoiding an accident;  I’m sure we all remember the EXXON VALDEZ, which was only three years past its maiden voyage when it grounded and spilled more than 700, 000 barrels of oil into Prince William Sound. The Captain was not on the bridge when the ship ran up on Bligh Reef, and the RAYCAS radar which might have prevented the disaster had been broken for over a year, a fact of which the owner was aware.
Britain wants everyone insured in London so it can deny insurance coverage to those it does not like, all part of the politicization and weaponization of everything which can be used as ‘leverage’. It was not long ago Russia had to get insurance somewhere else because the British refused to cover MV ALAED, which was returning Syrian military helicopters to Syria after they had undergone planned maintenance in Russia. As usual, Britain glowed with self-satisfied pride over behaviour it would have labelled risible and a disgrace had it been carried out by Russia, Syria or Iran.
“In the 19th century Britain practised gunboat diplomacy to confound its enemies. Now the UK has struck at a 21st century scourge by using the weapon of insurance – denying cover to a Russian ship returning refurbished helicopters to Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. “
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/19/syria-arms-shipment-foiled

Posted by: Mark | Nov 11 2025 22:11 utc | 79

Posted by: BlindSpot | Nov 11 2025 22:03 utc | 75
 
I don’t believe a single word coming from israeli or ex-israeli officials. How could anyone look at israel and believe anything they write or say? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so horribly tragic. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 22:32 utc | 80

The author says Ukraine has never had this many troops in the fight. lol Ukraine sources say there are at best 6 Hohol soldiers for every linear kilometer of front.

Posted by: nwwoods | Nov 11 2025 22:33 utc | 81

Waitling will be waiting an eternity for his fantasies to come true. Typical brit elite bullshite thought up over claret, port and Bolivian white followed by an orgy with 7 year old boys rugby team. The creatures we have ruling and ruining our lives is beyond alarming. 

Posted by: Ogre | Nov 11 2025 22:46 utc | 82

If so establish a safety zone of 200 miles in the Russian Arctic unaccessible for vessels flagged in unfriendly countries.

Posted by: Teraspol | Nov 11 2025 22:48 utc | 83

Posted by: Ogre | Nov 11 2025 22:46 utc | 82
 
Only exceeded by israel and possibly “ukraine”. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:02 utc | 84

In the end,  the article referenced all these (not new) tactics of prolonging war through 2026 as pressure for a “ceasefire”…. Because in 2026 Russia “will see the light” and capitulate to a ceasefire.
 
which isn’t going to happen.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 11 2025 23:07 utc | 85

” Hey everyone…. It’s an AIPAC/ISRAELI troll. 
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 21:28 utc | 70
 
Ha, hilarious. You must be new around here as m opinions on the “chosen” are well documented. 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:09 utc | 86

Ha, hilarious. You must be new around here as m opinions on the “chosen” are well documented. 
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:09 utc | 86
 
I’m new but it didn’t take long to see that you are so stupid that you must be a nut or paid to look stupid. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:13 utc | 87

Britain is pathetic.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Nov 11 2025 23:13 utc | 88

Interesting…
 
Ursula von der Leyen is establishing a European CIA that no one wants.
 
“Today I found out Ursula von der Leyen, the unelected President of the European Commission, has found a new hobby to distract from her legacy of being incompetent: espionage. In an audacious move, her Commission has begun establishing a new intelligence body directly under her command.
The thing is though, no one asked for it.
The stated reason? ‘The evolving security environment, including concerns over Russia and potential reductions in US support.’
The real reason? A classic, if not quintessential Brussels power grab that from my position reeks of imperialism and a desperate attempt to centralise control in the hands of the least accountable institution in Europe.”

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:15 utc | 89

As promised: Lavrov’s More Extensive Very Detailed Q&A With Media. Lavrov reveals some of his deadly tongue-in-cheek humor suggesting the Outlaw US Empire attack the Narcostate of Belgium where it already has a sizable military presence within what’s already a known narco entity. The discussion over Robert Kadleck’s testimony during his confirmation hearing is very important–another Neocon nuclear war advocate.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 11 2025 23:16 utc | 90

” Hmm, someone is offering to coordinate the attacks? So to say where and when, in order not to come into conflict with air defences? 
Posted by: BlindSpot | Nov 11 2025 22:03 utc | 75
 
You’re twisting yourself in knots trying to justify and find logic in what occurred.  Russia could have simply told Israel no attacks on Syria or let Syria actually use its AA to defend itself. Instead it sold an S-400 to NATO member Turkey. Boggles the mind. Not to mention, why allow Iranian warehouse to get bombed in the first place ? 

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:20 utc | 91

You know what they say, desperate times call for desperate measures. And by all indications things are getting desperate for Kiev and its most fervent backers.

Posted by: Lex | Nov 11 2025 23:22 utc | 92

Why should any country stick to any agreement after the Western  and particularly US pushers of the “international rules base order” have demonstrated to the world that they are the worst offenders of international law and order?
 
Not only have they been world leaders in breaking such rules but have shown complete rejection for them in supporting Israel’s genocide, planning further invasions of other countries for effecting regime change, inability to adhere to any agreement that has been made, brazen sabotage, destruction, and theft of other countries assets, disrespect for any country’s sovereignty and airspace, and rejection of the very international bodies charged with enforcing such laws.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Nov 11 2025 23:27 utc | 93

Posted by: Lex | Nov 11 2025 23:22 utc | 92
 
Thank God. Then finish israel…. diplomatically and financially.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:28 utc | 94

” I’m new but it didn’t take long to see that you are so stupid that you must be a nut or paid to look stupid. 
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:13 utc | 87
 
Another newbie with an attitude trying to ingratiate themselves with the regulars, with over the top emotional attacks. We’ve seen this play before, but carry on you’ll be slightly amusing for a bit.

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:28 utc | 95

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:28 utc | 95
 
I’m not trying to be one of the popular kids. I don’t care but I DO know what YOU are… a zionist troll. You’re a nut. Own it. I don’t care about “regulars” or some frat boy club. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:31 utc | 96

” I don’t care about “regulars” or some frat boy club. 
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:31 utc | 96
 
Yet, you keep posting here. TSK, TSK

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:36 utc | 97

Posted by b on November 11, 2025 at 18:03 UTC | Permalink
ref.to b as aid: “All three measures Waitling foresees, the closing of the Denmark Strait for Russian oil, the introduction of western trainers into Ukraine and the projection of airpower would massively increase the potential for a direct conflict with Russia.
It seems that this is exactly what Waitling is aiming to do. ..”

Yes, That’s the latest issue today’s “SMO” really to be logged + follows thereto …
 
The West-MSN-Liars (esp. vd.Liars is fighting now militarily in an EU-Uniform) by an ASOW Nazi like formation:
Ms. EU-vd.Liars is now the HEAD of a newly created and officially operating “EU SecretForceAgency”, that would hopefully solve all problems, ie. on Bundeswehr still available men recovery in Germany ..
Now, noone in EU still seems to be in an understanding mind of their own current real-estates plus real awareness what’s going on in UKR, and then targeting Brussels/EU ..
Listen to Lawrov carefully – Miss Leyen …
 

 

 

Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Nov 11 2025 23:39 utc | 98

Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:36 utc | 97
 
How the f-ck did they ever let you loose in society? It’s obvious that you probably can’t make a living doing much of anything. Does your mother know? 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 11 2025 23:39 utc | 99

Ha, hilarious. You must be new around here as m opinions on the “chosen” are well documented. 
Posted by: The Painter | Nov 11 2025 23:09 utc | 86

@Saint Jimmy
 
The Painter is also a newbie, don’t be fooled by him.
He was first “spotted” (called to account) here:
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 12 2025 17:35 utc | 50
 
 

Posted by: hh | Nov 11 2025 23:55 utc | 100