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October 4, 2025
Ukraine – Russian Hit On Freight Train, Passengers Hurt

The Telegraph claims that Russian drones hit a civilian passenger train in Ukraine.

Russian drone strikes Ukrainian passenger train

A “savage” Russian drone strike on a passenger train in Ukraine’s Sumy region has injured dozens of people, Volodymyr Zelensky said on Saturday.

The Ukrainian president posted a video of a burning carriage, surrounded by shattered glass and splintered iron, that was hit in the strike.

Emergency services are at the scene in the city of Shostka and have begun tending to the wounded, said Mr Zelensky.

“The Russians could not have been unaware that they were striking civilians,” he added. “We’ve heard resolute statements from Europe and America – and it’s high time to turn them all into reality. Lip service is not enough.”

In the video, a man in an orange hi-vis jacket can be seen walking towards the burning train, while another picks something up from the debris.

The train was heading to Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, and passengers were on board when it was struck at a railway station, Oleh Hryhorov, the governor of Sumy, said.

The status of the casualties was unclear on Saturday morning, with Mr Zelensky saying only that “so far, we know of at least 30 victims”.

Ukrzaliznystia, the Ukrainian state railway company, said there was a second strike on the Shostka train as an evacuation was under way. It said that three children were among the wounded.

The report comes with this picture which is credited to have been posted by the Ukrainian president.


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The picture seems to show a damaged and burning passenger car. But other pictures from the scene show a freight train with its locomotive in flames while a passenger train is standing undamaged on a parallel rail track some twenty meters away.


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It seems that only the freight rain was hit. As the Ukrainian outlet Strana writes (machine translation):

Russia hit a freight-passenger train in Shostka, there are wounded.

There were two strikes on the railway station in Shostka, Sumy region. As a result of the incident, there are injured passengers and employees of Ukrzaliznytsia.

This was announced by the Minister of Communities and Territories Alexey Kuleba.

According to him, the first blow fell on the locomotive of the suburban train Tereshchinskaya-Novgorod-Seversky. The second strike was on the electric locomotive of the Kiev–Shostka train.

Judging by the photos published by Sumy publics, the train that was hit in Shostka was a freight-passenger train.

Behind the passenger cars, you can see the freight cars. They can also be seen on the video of the consequences of the strike, which was published by the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky.


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The picture show a locomotive with a ‘cope cage’ netting against drone strikes followed by one passenger car followed by several freight cars. A fire can be seen between the locomotive and the passenger car. This is not the suburban passenger train.

The Russia drone hit the freight train which for some reason included one passenger car. The civil passenger train standing on the parallel track may have received collateral damage from the blast wave of the strike but it was quite obviously not the intended target.

This is another example of Ukrainian manipulation of facts designed to drag others into its war.

Last week some Russian channel posted a video of Russian drones following and hitting Ukrainian military freight trains while those were moving at speed. It was claimed that the drones had some device on board which allowed them to recognize and aim at moving trains. A Ukrainian channel claimed that a NVIDIA Jetson Orion Nano board had been found on Russia drone that had recently been shut down:

The NVIDIA Jetson Orin Nano, priced at $249, is a compact, energy-efficient AI developer board tailored for edge AI applications. It combines robust hardware capabilities with seamless integration into NVIDIA’s AI ecosystem, offering a practical solution for developers and researchers. Whether you’re working on object detection, real-time video analysis, or deploying large language models, the Orin Nano provides the tools to execute AI models in localized, low-power environments. Its affordability and versatility make it a compelling choice for both professionals and hobbyists.

Though none of this has been confirmed it does make sense. The hand sized Jetson Nano board is sufficient to include a pattern recognition model trained to detect moving trains. It is in such devices, not in Large Language Models, where Artificial Intelligence algorithms will find real use cases. Russian developers seem to be on top of this.

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“Terminator 2 Has Arrived” Russia’s First Hybrid Kamikaze “Unstoppable” Drone
 
https://patricklancasternewstoday.substack.com/p/terminator-2-has-arrived-russias
 
Article with 19-minute video.
 
A little hyperbolic but much technological evolution comes during military conflict.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 15:40 utc | 1

I only just realized today that Patrick Lancaster yells during his reports like an old man hard of hearing.
 
It made me laugh a lot.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 15:41 utc | 2

The sanctions aren’t working terribly well if Russia can obtain nVidia boards en masse. Anyways, this is something Ukraine really doesn’t want drilled down on. Why is a passenger car snuck onto a freight train? Could it be they were trying to get some people transferred quietly, only to now send them to a hospital?

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Oct 4 2025 15:44 utc | 3

Unlikely that those passengers were civilian. Unusual configuration (equipment and its operators) + Sumy.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 4 2025 15:49 utc | 4

Why is a passenger car snuck onto a freight train? 
 
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Oct 4 2025 15:44 utc | 3
 

 
“a troop sleeper was a railroad passenger car which had been constructed to serve as something of a mobile barracks (essentially, a sleeping car) for transporting troops over distances sufficient to require overnight accommodations. This method allowed part of the trip to be made overnight, reducing the amount of transit time required and increasing travel efficiency.”
 
https://dlab.epfl.ch/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/t/Troop_sleeper.htm

Posted by: too scents | Oct 4 2025 15:52 utc | 5

@ They Call Me Mister | Oct 4 2025 15:44 utc | 3 who wrote

Why is a passenger car snuck onto a freight train? Could it be they were trying to get some people transferred quietly, only to now send them to a hospital?

 
My thought exactly….high value targets get the Nvidia treatment
 
Thanks for the posting b…….the shit show continues until it doesn’t

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 4 2025 15:53 utc | 6

high value targets get the Nvidia treatment
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 4 2025 15:53 utc | 6
 

 
Huawei  makes a number of Jetson equivalent products.  Banning nVidea products in Russia just creates more blowback.
 
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Atlas-200I-DK-A2-Ascend-310_1601225785041.html

Posted by: too scents | Oct 4 2025 16:01 utc | 7

b, it’s not just ukrainian manipulation… they are learning from there masters – the brits, which is what the telegraph, boris johnson, tony blair and all the rest of the chatham, belling crap rot represent..
 
but, pay attention..  when the ukee sabotaguers dropped the bridge on the train with school kids nesr belogrood, was the telegrapgh or anyone in the uk saying anything about it?  mi6 probably intiated it!  
 
they can take there brit press and swallow a dose of there own novichok medicine straight from porton down..  it doesn’t matter how much you dress up a royal pig with lipstick, it’s still an incredibly odius and foul cresture, the brit regime 2025..  

Posted by: james | Oct 4 2025 16:01 utc | 8

There is a sizable underground operating in Ukraine now and they will be working with Russian intel agencies. From the stories in the media, the passenger train was headed back to Kiev and the freight train is pointed in the opposite direction so it had just came in from Kiev or wherever.
A train headed to Sumy will most likely be carrying military supplies, the passenger car added in for some freshly snatched Zelensky cannon fodder.
For quite some time, western media has been carrying tales of Ukraine domestic weapons production. But there was also something that occurred early this year, I forget what it was now, but it trigged Russia into opening the scope a bit for ‘collateral damage’ when targeting the weapons assembly plants and transport of military supplies.
With that, there was an uptick in Ukraine civilian casualties, still a long way below American shock and awe though. I also wonder how many of those civilian casualties are the civilian workers in those weapons plants Zelensky boasts about.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 4 2025 16:04 utc | 9

But there was also something that occurred early this year, I forget what it was now, but it trigged Russia into opening the scope 
 
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 4 2025 16:04 utc | 9
 

 
The Crocus Hall terrorist attack?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocus_City_Hall_attack

Posted by: too scents | Oct 4 2025 16:17 utc | 10

Video clip from an aerial reconnaissance drone here: https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/10/04/1745002.html
 
Show the strike, followed a by a bright, secondary spark as the overhead contact wire flashes over. Other channels report the passenger car being accommodation for a military escort crew, intended to guard whatever is in the freight wagons.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 4 2025 16:18 utc | 11

Both sides rejoice when the other is bombed and pearl clutch when they are bombed — how dare they! 
Neoliberal fascism got us into this mess, through the agency of community organizer Obama and senile Burisma Joe and only Trump can extradite us.
Trump is Pharaoh of earth. Putin needs to kiss his ring and then maybe, maybe Vlad can remain viceroy of Russia. Even though his invasion of Ukraine was a monstrous failure and has made Russia much less safe.

Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 4 2025 16:25 utc | 12

too scents | Oct 4 2025 16:17 utc | 10
 
I dont think so. That was early 2024.
james posted just before me and mentioned the bridge bombings timed to bring bridges down on civilian trains. That may have been the incident that was the trigger. 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 4 2025 16:25 utc | 13

it doesn’t matter how much you dress up a royal pig with lipstick, it’s still an incredibly odius and foul cresture, the brit regime 2025..  
Posted by: james | Oct 4 2025 16:01 utc | 8
 
It’s the ToryGraph – descending into the slurry more and more each year …
 
However, a five minute read is widely claimed to cure constipation … 
 
 

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 4 2025 16:31 utc | 14

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 15:41 utc | 2
lol
I had to turn down my volume
Must be cuz of all that time he was on the front line being targeted by NATOs latest explosive devices partially deaf and in a permanent state of anxiety

Posted by: ld | Oct 4 2025 16:38 utc | 15

https://interestingengineering.com/military/russia-drone-nvidia-ai-supercomputer
Russia’s new drone uses Nvidia’s mini supercomputer to make its own kill list
“This is a digital predator. It doesn’t carry coordinates, it thinks.
Updated: Jul 10, 2025 06:11 AM EST

Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 4 2025 16:40 utc | 16

LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 15:40 utc | 1
 
A very interesting video. Those 50k spools look huge compared to the drone. But being able to just remove the spool and switch back to radio when they are not operating in EW is impressive.
 
A number of videos I have seen recently have been a mix of radio and optic fibre. transmission drops out when the radio transmission drops below the tree line but the fibre optic can do a search and destroy thing at ground level.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 4 2025 16:41 utc | 17

@ 14 don
 
lol..  i ain’t gonna read it!
 
jeremy @ 11.   thanks..  the video and link cover all one needs to know….  more bs from the western msm..

Posted by: james | Oct 4 2025 16:44 utc | 18

if anyone thinks making better bombs shouldn’t be the focus of technological development, capitalism always has the Samson Option. for the planet. 

Posted by: duck n cover | Oct 4 2025 16:53 utc | 19

A short bit of video on the train strike.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qAVIkr1KWMTl

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 4 2025 16:54 utc | 20

Looks like the Russians deliberately targeted the troop car and not the freight cars. That tells me whoever was in the passenger car was a more valuable target than the hardware. NATO specialists?

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 4 2025 17:04 utc | 21

Southfront.press has videos panning from the freight train to the passenger train, confirming -b.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 4 2025 17:05 utc | 22

Machine-translated from a Russian Telegram Channel (link at end, with videos):
________________________
 
Regarding the train in Shostka…
 
Here, all Ukrainian media alike, including the country’s president, started posting videos and photos accusing the Russian Armed Forces of strikes on what is officially claimed to be a passenger train Shostka-Kyiv. If anyone is interested in what really happened – read the info below from our 🥷🏽source.
 
1. In the first video, you see the locomotive No. ChME3 1816, which calmly roams the railway expanses of Ukraine in August this year. Remember this guy.
 
2. In the second video, you see the same locomotive No. ChME3 1816, which was suddenly covered with anti-drone nets in September this year. You might say – “so what? there is a war and all that”, BUT… during several years of hostilities, this never happened to the locomotive because it did not carry military cargo, and since the Russian Armed Forces do not strike civilian trains – there was no reason to worry. But in the end, our friend the locomotive did sin, because in this video it is delivering military cargo to Shostka, arriving from the Odessa region, so it is already covered with nets.
 
Why Odessa region?
 
3. The latest containers of this type are used by the forwarding company SVT.Ua, based in Chornomorsk and engaged in all types of cargo delivery, including maritime (unloading, loading, delivery, etc.). Moreover, these guys actively cooperate with European countries, and cargo is also transported from there to Ukraine. Everyone knows well what kind of cargo is actively brought to Ukraine.
 
Probably from this point on, the locomotive allocated for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to be monitored.
 
4. In the third video, you see today’s “Geran” strike on the locomotive standing in Shostka. One passenger car and two freight cars are attached to it. The first strike was definitely on the locomotive, and the second (not shown in the video for technical reasons) hit a car. The car was intended for guard fighters and unidentified officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the freight cars were empty at the time of the strike because there was no time to load military equipment there.
 
5. The last photo puts all the dots on the “i” because we can see the locomotive number, which has been performing tasks in the interests of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a couple of months. This is our old acquaintance – locomotive No. ChME3 1816…
 
p.s. The train nearby is indeed civilian, but the strike on the military echelon was carried out at a time when there were no people nearby, and this is clearly visible in the strike video. Essentially, today’s strike on the locomotive simply disrupted once again the plans for rotation and transportation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine’s cargo, and nothing else.
 
👀 That’s the situation…
 
https://t.me/don_partizan/10244

Posted by: FollowsTheWay | Oct 4 2025 17:05 utc | 23

The new head of the M16 aims to restore Britain’s influence in the middle east whose grandfather was a Nazi war criminal
 
“That’s right, her grandfather was none other than famous Nazi collaborator Constantine Dobrowolski, who has a crime file running in the “hundreds of pages” in the German Federal Military Archive, as per the Wiki. Just take a whiff of his many works, for which he was dubbed ‘the Butcher’:

Having returned to his home district of Sosnytsia, he organised a 300-strong Ukrainian police unit which assisted in rounding up and killing Jews and Ukrainian partisans.He rose to become a local intelligence chief for the Nazis in Chernigov, having first collaborated with the Hiwi, before joining the Wehrmacht‘s secret military police Geheime Feldpolizei in July 1942. He was dubbed “the “Butcher” by partisans, and there are accounts of him sharing in loot taken from Holocaust victims and condoning the rape of women prisoners. The Soviets offered a 50,000-ruble bounty—£200,000 today—on Dobrowolski, calling him “the worst enemy of the Ukrainian people.” The last entry in the file is in August 1943, as the Soviet army advanced on the region.”

Empire loves its powerful Nazi women

 

Simplicius
https://substack.com/home/post/p-175246677
 
 

Posted by: ld | Oct 4 2025 17:06 utc | 24

The train configuration of one passenger car followed by many freight cars implies either equipment and handlers/loaders/operators on train, or media manipulation.
Either way Russians have now night vision drones that can operate hundreds of kilometers behind the line, hitting moving freight trains. Several other trains or locomotive were hit as well a few days ago by night-vision carrying drones. Were they AI or manually operated?
Ukraine is forced to use diesel locomotives, fuel dumps along the rail service stations are hit making refueling harder and limiting operation.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 4 2025 17:08 utc | 25

@LoveDonbass
considering how long Patrick Lancaster has been doing war reporting, he very well may have hearing damage
 
I recall months ago AFU put out pictures of a Geran-2 whose munition had failed to fuse/fire and I matched the board shown to an nVidia Jetson board. I’m pretty sure the Geran platform is being diversified with many different tasks being undertaken by different versions: artillery, decoys to waste anti-air defense, EW/ECW applications, intelligence gathering.
 
I hope this finds you well

Posted by: ockham | Oct 4 2025 17:12 utc | 26

NATO specialists and 3 children boarded a train bound for Kiev…
 
Joking<<
 
In his Valdai Q & A, VVP spoke about targeting railcars which cross from Poland into Ukraine at the switchyards where the trains have to stop to make the change from European gauge chassis to Soviet gauge, which Ukraine still utilizes.  VVP’s remarks about targeting trains making the cross-border shift was notable, especially in that the intent to destroy the materiel at the point of entry is assured.
 
Russia’s Ministry of Defense has been prepping the Sumy area massively for something that might commence this month.  Energy infrastructure near Chernikev has been blasted relentlessly to smithereens.  Beaucoup unfixable black-outs have resulted.  The thought is that Russia wants to make the area northeast of Kiev sufficiently unlivable that civilians will begin an exodus westward.
 
After that, Russia will mount a humongous counteroffensive.
 
Could be in this freight train hit today, which oddly included one passenger car, the Ministry of Defense is preventing NATO/Ukraine’s build-up in the Chernikev/Sumy areas northeast of Kiev:  destroying the materiel (and the NATO mercs aboard) just as they roll into the station.
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 17:16 utc | 27

“Though none of this has been confirmed it does make sense. The hand sized Jetson Nano board is sufficient to include a pattern recognition model trained to detect moving trains. It is in such devices, not in Large Language Models, where Artificial Intelligence algorithms will find real use cases. Russian developers seem to be on top of this.”
Precisely so, and sometime in the near future waves of drones loaded with multiple advanced image classifiers will be roaming 24/7.
It’s fascinating to see war evolve rapidly in wartime.  Defenses will also be equipped with this tech resulting in a good old fashioned sword vs shield arms race.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Oct 4 2025 17:21 utc | 28

We know the drill: 
 
a Palm Sunday outdoor event near Kharkov gets visited by a Geran.  Volodymyr howls & yowls on Telegram and X about “Putin’s brutal savagery.”  Obeisant media boost the narrative relentlessly.  Gen Kellogg goes on a Sunday morning talk show in the U.S.  Eventually DJT has to respond.
 
errant drones breach Poland’s airspace.  Volodymyr howls & yowls on Telegram and X about “Putin’s reckless attack on NATO’s sovereignty.”  Obeisant media boost the narrative relentlessly.  Gen Kellogg goes on a Sunday morning talk show in the U.S. to condemn the breach and claim that Ukraine is winning.  Eventually DJT has to respond.
 
a freight car receives a visit from a Geran.  Volodymyr howls & yowls on Telegram and X about “Putin targeting civilian transportation.”  Obeisant media boost the narrative relentlessly. 
 
This train incident happened on a weekend when the world’s attention is turned toward Gaza and the hoped-for cessation of Israel’s bombardment.
 
In other words, Volodymyr feels neglected, unable to command a news-cycle as West Asia doings grab the headlines.
 
Still, it’s Saturday.  Which means that tomorrow is Sunday.  Sunday is when Gen Kellogg will go on the morning talk shows.   Sunday is when Gen Kellogg will say that “Putin is a savage” and miraculously insist nonetheless that “Ukraine is winning. 
 
I think we all know Gen Kellogg is already laying out the tie he’ll wear on Sunday morning and matching a couple pocket squares to it, to see what works.
 
Gen Kellogg is getting ready for his close-up.
 
 
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 17:35 utc | 29

Shout out to Rob Campbell, aka The Busker.
You are missed.   Get well soon.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 4 2025 17:37 utc | 30

 steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 17:16 utc | 27
 
Putin said nothing about targeting railcars or locomotives at Valdai. I just searched the entire transcript to confirm.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 4 2025 17:39 utc | 31

Trump is Pharaoh of earth. Putin needs to kiss his ring and then maybe, maybe Vlad can remain viceroy of Russia. Even though his invasion of Ukraine was a monstrous failure and has made Russia much less safe.
 
Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 4 2025 16:25 utc | 12
 
Good for a laugh, this.  More like the golem goy of Israel, buddy.  
Seriously though, reviewing the comments I concur these were likely high value targets and Z is just insanely grabbing at anything to ensure a global nuclear war with Russia, as usual.  If he has to go, he’s taking the whole planet with him.  They’re playing with nuclear fire so often I dare say it’s become routine and sort of unremarkable.  Maybe that’s the point of the repeated exercise?  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 4 2025 17:43 utc | 32

I think we all know Gen Kellogg is already laying out the tie he’ll wear on Sunday morning and matching a couple pocket squares to it, to see what works.
Gen Kellogg is getting ready for his close-up.
 
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 17:35 utc | 29
 
Ad nauseum!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 4 2025 17:45 utc | 33

NATO specialists and 3 children boarded a train bound for Kiev… Joking<<
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 17:16 utc | 27
Maybe not so much of a joke.  We know those perverts are kiddie diddlers.   
Remember the pizza parlor strike, I think in Kharkov?   Dozens of NATO mercenaries, and also twin 14 y.o. girls.   The girls’ parents were apparently not there, since they were quoted lamenting their loss.  So why were the girls there? 
I give NATO and its mercenaries no slack in my speculation.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 4 2025 17:46 utc | 34

Reminds me of NATO delibetately bombing a long civilian train headed towards Greece during their War to Destroy Yugoslavia. 60 innocent civilians were murdered by USAF. NATO press lied shamelessly and even manipulated film of the war crime.
 
https://books.google.de/books?id=sXOOnQAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

Posted by: Exile | Oct 4 2025 17:52 utc | 35

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 4 2025 17:46 utc | 34
A reasonable assumption.  These Imperialist elements are subhumans.  Far below animals, really.  With the genocide in mind, I wouldn’t put anything past them.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 4 2025 17:54 utc | 36

It reminds me of the nine books nutty septic wrote, especially the one about the twin towers.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 18:23 utc | 37

IMO expect more even in our own homelands. They can’t escape the debt.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 18:35 utc | 38

It reminds me of the nine books nutty septic wrote, especially the one about the twin towers.
 
Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 18:23 utc | 37
 
#####
 
Why do people do this passive-aggressive name-play?
 
Name names, intelligibly.
 
Even my guy, Giyane, indulges in this pettiness, undermining their opportunity to speak truth to power.
 
Be brave.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 18:41 utc | 39

Posted by: FollowsTheWay | Oct 4 2025 17:05 utc | 23
Thank heaven for the trainspotters.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Oct 4 2025 18:42 utc | 40

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 18:41 utc | 39
Name names, intelligibly. 
I’d bet 99.9 of the world’s population know exactly who I was writing about. We’ve come back to Soviet times especially with AI Palantir. F’k with their algorithm, beat them with their own game.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 18:47 utc | 41

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Oct 4 2025 17:21 utc | 28
 
RE:  the hand-sized Jetson Nano Board
 
<<
 
The high utility of AI-derived capacity in warfare will, as b says, “find real use cases.”
 
Moreover, the nexus formed in the U.S. by the tripartite Big Tech, Big Government & MIC creates alluring prospects for innovations.
 
Obviously Russia has had more existential impetus to innovate more energetically & rapidly than, say, the U.S. MIC has had.
 
For the duration so far of the SMO, the MIC has seemed content to produce its boutique & bespoke weaponry at more or less the same rate that it ever did.   In fall 2024 Collective Biden announced that the Scranton arsenal would begin manufacturing 155mm shells at a greater clip by…2027.  We don’t hear news stories about 155mm shell production any more.
 
NATO is not configured right now for effective boots-on-the-ground conventional warfare of any duration (beyond 12 days, for instance.)
 
Stand-off bombardment from NATO-controlled/NATO-safe no-fly-zones is how NATO can best roll right now but Project Ukraine ain’t that.
 
 
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 18:57 utc | 42

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 4 2025 17:46 utc | 34
 
RE:  remember the pizza parlor strike in Kharkov—dozens of Nato mercs and twin 14-year old girls
 
<<
 
Soon, very soon, Ukraine will begin painting the roofs of  their railcars carrying NATO mercs from Kiev to Sumy  Orphan Train or Maternity Ward On Wheels in order to safeguard civilians.
 
As Nancy Antoinette once observed, “It’s all about the children, the children, the children.”

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 19:05 utc | 43

Exile 35 – so true, NATO committed numerous war crimes in Serbia in the period 1995 to 1999, bombing civilian passenger trains and buses, train stations, chemical plants, auto factories, tv and radio hq, hospitals and aid stations……..yup NATO has a sorid history here………..not to mention the massacre of civilians in the Krajina all completed with NATO “advisors” in the field of operations……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 4 2025 19:26 utc | 44

‼️🇺🇦🏴‍☠️Zelensky complains about a massive strike on the Ukrainian energy system and on air defense problems➖”In just one strike on gas facilities alone, there were 35 missiles, including ballistic ones. It was a combined strike, only half of the missiles were shot down,” Zelensky whines in his evening address.@Slavyangrad
The strikes in recent weeks on Kiev and the Kiev region have mainly targeted railway infrastructure facilities.Apparently, the nodes and branches leading to the northeast — towards the Sumy region (marked in blue) — are being hit.Such concentration in one direction suggests that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are urgently redeploying reserves there. Probably, some forces are also being withdrawn from the Chernigov sector, which explains the increased activity in specific areas of northern Ukraine.
 
NATO countries have started pressuring Greece to resell French Mirage fighter jets to Kyiv. If consent is obtained, Estonia may act as an intermediary in the transfer of the fighters, and then they will end up in Ukraine. Greece previously purchased 24 Mirage 2000-5 aircraft. Earlier, the Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Defense stated that Kyiv expects Gripen fighters from Sweden. Sweden has denied this.
@Slavyangrad
Not only the French tanker but also
AFP:🇫🇮🏴‍☠️👉🇷🇺 On Friday, a Finnish court closed the case against the captain and two senior officers of a vessel allegedly part of the Russian “shadow fleet,” who were suspected of damaging underwater cables in the Baltic Sea.🔺Western media, governments, and politicians always loudly and blatantly accuse Russia of all sins. They print huge headlines on the front pages of newspapers, repeat the accusations every five minutes on the highest-rated TV channels, and then, in small print on the back page, which no one reads, they proclaim Russia’s innocence.
‼️🇷🇺👉🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ Since 2014, 27 thousand civilians have suffered from crimes committed by the Kyiv regime, more than 7 thousand of them have been killed, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation reported.
❗️🇺🇦🇩🇪🏴‍☠️👉🇷🇺 Six children from Russia have been included in the database of the death list of the Ukrainian extremist website “Mirotvorets”.Among them are two boys aged 4 and 12, two girls aged 8, and two more girls aged 6 and 9. It is claimed that all of them are listed in the database for “deliberate violation of the state border” and an attempt on the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine.
 
On slavyangrad and intelslava z etc are usually maps of the Russian strikes against Ukraine but cannot show up here on this system.
🇷🇺🇩🇰Russian military ships aimed weapons at Danish military vessels and helicopters in Danish waters, said the head of Danish intelligence.
🇬🇧🇺🇦🇷🇺Britain is already assisting Ukraine in carrying out some long-range strikes on Russian territory, — Financial Times.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 4 2025 19:52 utc | 45

The last interview with G. Doctorow and Glenn Diesen, Doctorow express serious fear, that Putin can be removed, because of his way to wage the war, too long time for attrition warfare. This was a surprise, to me, I’m not a fearmonger.
It is the first time I´ve heard this from Doctorow, and he fears that the Russian refinery capacity will be destroyed by Ukrainian strikes. This and the threat of taking the Russian, Euroclear billions, the boarding of Russian bound tankers, in France, and  blocking  the Baltic Sea, maybe too much.
Maybe the Russian people had it, we don’t know, but Putin seems in a good mood. Much of it is  EU-declarations “of war”, but if Russia doesn’t answer, what can happens ? Maybe  we will see  the coming weeks ? Will Russia attack nations whom are supplying Ukraine with armaments ? A removal of Putin seems defaitistic, before Zelensky does the same, but what forces are behind Putin, maybe against, we don’t know. Well Doctorow gave me something to think about.
 
 
 

Posted by: Reader | Oct 4 2025 19:59 utc | 46

The last interview with G. Doctorow and Glenn Diesen, Doctorow express serious fear, that Putin can be removed, because of his way to wage the war, too long time for attrition warfare. This was a surprise, to me, I’m not a fearmonger.
It is the first time I´ve heard this from Doctorow, and he fears that the Russian refinery capacity will be destroyed by Ukrainian strikes. This and the threat of taking the Russian, Euroclear billions, the boarding of Russian bound tankers, in France, and  blocking  the Baltic Sea, maybe too much.
Maybe the Russian people had it, we don’t know, but Putin seems in a good mood. Much of it is  EU-declarations “of war”, but if Russia doesn’t answer, what can happens ? Maybe  we will see  the coming weeks ? Will Russia attack nations whom are supplying Ukraine with armaments ? A removal of Putin seems defaitistic, before Zelensky does the same, but what forces are behind Putin, maybe against, we don’t know. Well Doctorow gave me something to think about.
 

Posted by: Reader | Oct 4 2025 19:59 utc | 47

Large Language Models (LLMs) at least for me are a clever toy but mostly useless – I can’t tolerate this level of errors.  Suppose I use one to pay my bills and it gets 9 correct and the tenth it totally screws up, or maybe pays a bill I don’t owe?  Not practical.
But as hinted at here, LLMs (and other approaches to AI) need not be perfect for military uses.  If you launch a bunch of drones into enemy territory, and half strike empty fields or the middle of lakes, and the other half correctly identify and destroy valid targets, well, you win.
Other applications where high levels of error are not a problem include generating massive amounts of propaganda, denying medical claims, and automating customer service so that people just get frustrated and give up.  Current AI approaches could work very well, for that.

Posted by: TG | Oct 4 2025 20:23 utc | 48

 Ld 24,I got that post in this morning’s email flurries, deeply depressing and not just the bit about Nazis on the rise across Europe.  No, this MI-6 chief, granddaughter of a Galician Waffen SS butcher wants Britain to deepen its already substantial ties with Turkey.  The very artifice that created the conditions for WWI, which bequeathed the world WWII is to be employed in full measure once again.
 
My father taught me that certain individual Turks can be trusted in non-state-affairs, you can not trust a Turk when the affair involves remnants of the Ottoman empire.  Like the English and their empire, the Turks yearn for the time that the Ottomans enslaved eastern Europe with the encouragement and consent of western Europe. This memory still burns brightly in the Turkic mind, the English wish kindle that fire into a destructive maelstrom .  All that said, no Turk in history can match the duplicity of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan…and that’s saying something.  It will be macabre spectacle watching the two Scorpionoidea vying to stab each other in the back.  The remnant empires of the English and Ottoman’s are match made in hell and brought to this mortal plain by the Satin himself….together they are responsible for three major wars.  God help us all.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 4 2025 20:30 utc | 49

Just helping out karlof1 who missed this message from Putin.
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http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/77208
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Search down to Понятно, что сегодняшний кризис отношений
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On June 19, 2025 the Russian President held a meeting with the heads of leading global news agencies.
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At that meeting Vladimir Putin said;
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It’s clear that the current crisis in relations between Russia and Western Europe began in 2014. But the problem isn’t that Russia annexed Crimea, but that Western countries facilitated the coup d’état in Ukraine.
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You see, we’ve always heard before: we must live by the rules. What rules? What kind of rule is this when three countries – France, Germany, and Poland – came to Kyiv and, as guarantors, signed a document of agreement between the opposition and the (democratically elected) authorities led by President Yanukovych. Three countries, their foreign ministers, signed it, right? My colleague from Germany is looking at me. Mr. Steinmeier—he was Foreign Minister at the time—signed it, and a few days later the opposition staged a coup, and no one even batted an eye, as if nothing had happened, you understand. And then we hear: we have to live by the rules. What rules? What are you making up? You write rules for others, but you don’t intend to abide by them yourself? Who would live by such rules?
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That’s where the crisis began. But not because Russia acted from a position of strength. No, those people whom we, until recently, called partners, began to act from a position of strength. And the former Deputy Secretary of State, Ms. Nuland, I believe, said outright: “We spent five billion dollars. Well, we’re not going to leave now.” They spent five billion dollars on a coup. Wow, what revelations!
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Our Western partners have always acted from a position of strength since the collapse of the Soviet Union. It’s clear why; I wrote about it, and that’s all. Because the world order after World War II was based on a balance of power between the victors. And now one of the victors is gone—the Soviet Union has collapsed. And that’s it, the Westerners have begun rewriting all those rules to suit themselves. What rules?
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After Crimea, events began in southeastern Ukraine. What did they do? In the southeast, the people didn’t recognize the coup. Instead of negotiating with them, they started using the army against them. We watched and watched, trying to reach an agreement—eight years, do you understand? That’s not five days. For eight years, we tried to reach an agreement between the Kyiv authorities, whose primary source of power is the coup d’état, and what was then southeastern Ukraine, that is, the Donbas. But in the end, the current (illegitimate) authorities declared: “We are not satisfied with anything in the Minsk agreements, meaning we will not implement them.” We tolerated it for eight years, do you understand?
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But I feel sorry for the people there; they were bullied for eight years. Ultimately, they’re still bullying the Russian Orthodox Church, and they’re bullying the Russian-speaking population. Everyone’s pretending not to notice.
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Ultimately, we decided to end this conflict—yes, using our Armed Forces. What does that mean? Are we planning to attack Eastern Europe, or what?
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A famous Nazi propagandist once said, “The more incredible the lie, the more likely it will be believed.” This myth that Russia is planning to attack Europe, NATO countries—that’s the same incredible lie they’re trying to force the people of Western European countries to believe. We understand that it’s nonsense, you know? Those who say it don’t believe it themselves. Well, and you yourselves, I suppose. Does any of you believe that Russia is preparing to attack NATO? What is that?
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Did you know that NATO countries currently spend $1.4 trillion on military spending? That’s more than all the countries in the world combined, including Russia and the People’s Republic of China. And the population there, in NATO countries—how many is there?—is over 300 billion, 340 billion. Russia, as we know, has 145, almost 150 billion now. And we’re spending an incomparable amount of money, simply an incomparable amount of money, on military spending. And we’re planning to attack NATO, right? What kind of nonsense is this?
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And everyone knows it’s nonsense. And they’re deceiving their own populations in order to squeeze money out of budgets—five percent, three and a half percent, plus one and a half percent—and to use this to explain the economic and social failures. Well, of course, Germany—the leading economy in the European Union—is teetering on the brink of recession. Incidentally, I still can’t understand why the Federal Republic has refused to use Russian energy resources. We supplied other European countries through Ukraine, Ukraine received 400 million in transit money from us annually, and yet Germany, for some reason, refused to receive Russian gas. Why? No, there’s simply no rational explanation. What for?
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Volkswagen is dying, Porsche is dying, the glass industry is dying, the fertilizer industry is dying. For what? I’ll buy a ticket to spite the conductor and not go. Is that it? What nonsense.
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So if NATO countries want to increase their budgets even more, that’s their business. But it won’t benefit anyone. They will, of course, create additional risks, yes, they will. Well, that’s not our decision; it’s the decision of the NATO countries. I believe this is completely irrational and senseless, and there are certainly no threats from Russia; it’s just nonsense. Dr. Goebbels said, and I repeat: the more incredible the lie, the more likely it will be believed. And some people in Europe probably believe that.
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They’d be better off saving their auto industry and raising wages.

Posted by: UNIQUE | Oct 4 2025 20:52 utc | 50

Some refinery in the L.A area (el segundo) went boom last night.
Hopefully Sanford and Son are OK.

Posted by: ScreamingMonk | Oct 4 2025 20:57 utc | 51

Posted by: Reader | Oct 4 2025 19:59 utc | 46
 
Fuck doctorow!
 
Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 4 2025 16:25 utc | 12
 
Fuck off liar!

Posted by: Naive | Oct 4 2025 20:58 utc | 52

EU funded and organized color revolution ongoing in Georgia. Looks a lot like Hong Kong, Portland and Kiev.
 
They need to raid all EU embassies, turn them upside down and look for evidence that will be surely inside.
 
https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1974582019805126748
 

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 4 2025 21:12 utc | 53

Thanks for that. I read it on jabhat al-nusra TV (al jazeera) and new it was the usual MSM bs taking globalist orders.

Posted by: Sal | Oct 4 2025 21:15 utc | 54

Over the next few days if not weeks, MoA barflies should look out for news about senior NATO personnel suddenly disappearing while on afternoon hikes in the Swiss Alps, or some other recreation, when these individuals’  last known activity was in Kiev, bound for Sumy. 

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 4 2025 21:21 utc | 55

Good night, here’s another video about the train cars.https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/10/04/1745002.html       I want to add regarding the flashes in Dnipro=Dnipropetrovsk: around the same time my computer rebooted and the time on my microwave was reset. I don’t have any UPS.

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 4 2025 21:22 utc | 56

Though none of this has been confirmed it does make sense. The hand sized Jetson Nano board is sufficient to include a pattern recognition model trained to detect moving trains. It is in such devices, not in Large Language Models, where Artificial Intelligence algorithms will find real use cases. Russian developers seem to be on top of this.Posted by b on October 4, 2025 at 15:34 UTC | Permalink

LLM and so-called “AI” have significant limitations, but they still have their uses. Rather than being dismissive of the tech because of the AI bubble—in other words, being dismissive of the tech because it’s linked to a situation that’s unique to capitalism—maybe take the time to learn more about it, even if it’s just reading simplified Wikipedia articles. Think of the dot-com bubble: the bubble popped, but the tech behind the bubble remained useful and was further developed to become even more useful.
 
The LLM that you so casually dismissed is built upon the foundation of a deep learning architecture named the transformer that was first introduced in 2017, and this exact same architecture was applied to visual tasks (like the one you described, “detect moving trains”) in 2019. By 2022, there was so much research on vision transformers that there was sufficient material for survey papers. The transformer is capable of multimodality, meaning that it can do LLM and visual tasks (and even voice recognition) simultaneously—you may be familiar with people giving textual descriptions to “AI” like Sora 2 to generate fake videos. One doesn’t have to be terribly creative to see how it can be applied to war (a topic I know that this blog’s audience is infatuated with). Instead of having a specialist (a programmer) adapt code for changing battlefield conditions, a soldier can verbally instruct an “AI” to adapt its pattern matching algorithm. The soldier can ask the AI to overlay “cope cages” to existing patterns for IFVs or tanks in the database, the soldier can instruct the AI to only target vehicles traveling at a certain speed etc.
 
The problem was never with the tech. It was always with capitalism exploiting the tech to bring misery upon humanity—capitalism that America brutally enforces upon the world, from Ukraine to Palestine.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Oct 4 2025 21:37 utc | 57

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Oct 4 2025 21:37 utc | 57
Their plan they wrote for all Abrahamic religions is what’s happening today.
Have we seen this movie before?

Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 21:46 utc | 58

All Under Heaven | Oct 4 2025 21:37 utc | 57

Don’t you see? When you want, you can.

A bunch of inconsequential blah, blah which have a marvelous conclusion: “death to the bad murica”

Hey, lucid! Are you unable to understand that wishing bad to your so called enemy is not only a childish fantasy, but an inconsequential solipsim?

Hypocrite. Keep your virtue signaling for your own.

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 4 2025 21:52 utc | 59

Larry Johnson has published a short article that suggests Russia has just tested their new Plasma Burst EMP weapon in Dnipro in the night from October 1st to 2nd.

Posted by: Perimetr | Oct 4 2025 22:00 utc | 60

It is in such devices, not in Large Language Models, where Artificial Intelligence algorithms will find real use cases. Russian developers seem to be on top of this.
Posted by B

True, AI has a main line of applications in war machines. While it is comparatively easy to have a machine recognize a train or a car or a tank or an aircraft, it is far more demanding to have a drone recognize humans on sight. There is foreground, background, different lighting, different uniforms, people walking or resting, friendly people or enemies.
But this type of drone is being developed, and they will be used on all sides, maybe with the Chinese or Russians having the most effective ones, if you will. Such drones will be trusted with autonomously navigating and autonomously deciding which humans to kill. Such drones may even be lieing in ambush for humans passing by. For the soldiers anywhere near the front, there will be no such thing any more as “going for a walk”. We’re halfway there already.  

Posted by: grunzt | Oct 4 2025 22:09 utc | 61

To #57, you say: “maybe take the time to learn more about it, even if it’s just reading simplified Wikipedia articles.”…
Why would I want to read a “simplified Wikipedia article” when I know it’s likely that key information has been omitted–for whatever reason?

Posted by: susan mullen | Oct 4 2025 22:22 utc | 62

Video clip from an aerial reconnaissance drone here: https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/10/04/1745002.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 4 2025 16:18 utc | 11
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Posted by: George the Zeroth | Oct 4 2025 22:34 utc | 63

Posted by: Reader | Oct 4 2025 19:59 utc | 46
 
RE:  Doctorow’s remarks
 
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I am doubting both Doctorow and Helmer as accurate curators of Kremlin-thought/Moscow-thought/Russian-thought concerning the SMO and matters involving VVP tenure as President of the Russian Federation.
 
Both boost narratives about discontent, to the point of alleged palace coups, against VVP at the drop of a hat.  Helmer did this during a post in April (it coincided w/ DJT’s intensely photogenic sit-down w/ Volodymyr in St. Peter’s Cathedral) in which he stated that “his sources” had told him that VVP was on the cusp of making a bad peace in order to move the SMO to a conclusion, because *the oligarchs* were restless.
 
Naturally, nothing could have been further from the truth.
 
Ditto now w/ Doctorow.  It’s as if he is trying to fill a void with his own hoped-for relevance.  He has contacts.  He hears things.  He knows.
 
VVP’s reception @ Valdai speaks volumes.  The consistency, moreover, of Russia’s military intent, as we glean it, from continual battlefield gains reinforce the stature of Russia’s win in the SMO.
 
The MoD keeps everybody on tenterhooks, anticipating next incursions, but even over one year ago today right now the Russian Forces are taking care of business w/ confidence & aplomb.
 
Everybody has their fave commentators.   Both Helmer & Doctorow have proven themselves unreliable in my eyes.  I don’t mind at all that others listen to them, but I’m certainly glad Gerasimov does not.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 22:39 utc | 64

I only just realized today that Patrick Lancaster yells during his reports like an old man hard of hearing. It made me laugh a lot.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 15:41 utc | 2
 
Underlying Patrick Lancaster’s valuable first person LOC reportage, the guy is a congenital doofus. On first watching, years ago, with his WWII helmet and ruddy cheeks, I thought it was comedic parody. He’s clearly a little boy who wanted to be a war correspondent for CNN when he grew up. He’s had melodramatic volume and urgency since day 1. Yes, he makes me laugh too.

Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Oct 4 2025 22:48 utc | 65

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 4 2025 20:30 utc | 49
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Re: Turkey & the Ottoman Empire:
I’ve been to Bulgaria twice. Both times we were strongly and continuously reminded of the Ottoman’s 500-year occupation of that country, and their cruel treatment of the populace.
500 years.
 
The Bulgarians, like everyone else in the Balkans, have very, very long memories.
 
(In Hungary it was only about 200 years …)

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Oct 4 2025 22:54 utc | 66

Everybody has their fave commentators.   Both Helmer & Doctorow have proven themselves unreliable in my eyes.  I don’t mind at all that others listen to them, but I’m certainly glad Gerasimov does not.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 22:39 utc | 64
 
Exactamente.
Ditto for the Duran, Ritter, all the mappers, 90% of the other Alt-Ukraine talking heads, and 99% of the bedroom generals here in MoA.

Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Oct 4 2025 22:54 utc | 67

Good night, here’s another video about the train cars.
https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/10/04/1745002.html
Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 4 2025 21:22 utc | 56
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Posted by: George the Zeroth | Oct 4 2025 22:58 utc | 68

@61 
US military and associated “police/intel” agencies have been developing image recognition since at least the mid 1980’s.  They have done this with R&D money at levels of spending only the $37 trillion in debt US can endure!  Nothing in AI whether military/surveillance agencies is ever going to be paid for by people who demand efficiency and effectiveness.
For example the seeker on SMD II can determine whether a vehicle it targets is high value or not…. despite the fact it glides and has a penalty for not choosing a tarfet while it can maneuver.
IOW only the US government can buy AI at scale!  Because it has low standards!
 

Posted by: paddy | Oct 4 2025 23:01 utc | 69

Really?

If you make a single review of the comments, you don’t need an algorithm to perfile the commenters.

As Bernard does, or his server, there’s a people who interprets the collected data. No, no, no. It’s the Bundentag. Sorry.

You are providing us all the data. Your beliefs, your so called education, your left or right perfile, your passionarity, your age, gender, sexuality, drugs, vaccination or not, age, depression, beliefs in god, anti-all…, where do you live.

All. That’s what means to be a fucking nobody that needs that yelling on line is good idea.

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 4 2025 23:01 utc | 70

Even my guy, Giyane, indulges in this pettiness, undermining their opportunity to speak truth to power. Be brave.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2025 18:41 utc | 39
 
Ah ha. So you’re now admitting to conjugal relations with Giyane. And you still maintain you’re a man?  Makes sense. A pair of gay, Western-hating Muslim Brothers. Come on out of the closet LD. As you say, be brave. You may not be liked any more here,  but you’ll be better “understood”.

Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Oct 4 2025 23:05 utc | 71

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 4 2025 23:01 utc | 70
 
What do we get from arguing from ones trying to find the answer? It’s self defeating and only hurting yourself who wants to know too. Relax brother or sister, it’s not the end of the world yet.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 23:13 utc | 72

Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Oct 4 2025 23:05 utc | 71
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I take it you’re German?
Just so’s you know, in English, saying someone is “my guy” does not necessarily mean that the writer/speaker is involved in a romantic or sexual relationship with them; it can simply mean that they admire, read or follow them.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Oct 4 2025 23:13 utc | 73

This is another example of Ukrainian manipulation of facts designed to drag others into its war.

 
OMG surely not! For the 5,483rd time the Ukr Govt spreads lies, distortions, manipulations, fake news and propaganda during War time. I’m shocked truly shocked. /s But this is not genuine news, least not worthy of a whole article about it. B, you’ve been really busy setting up the new server system. Take a break. Go for a picnic or something. Don’t waste your time on insignificant items like this. 
 
Save your powder for when it really counts.

Posted by: dodger | Oct 4 2025 23:18 utc | 74

Gerhardt G. | Oct 4 2025 23:05 utc | 71

Sorry I can’t have human relationship because my principal doesn’t allow me to engage with white Christian colonialist mutherfuchers.

My Islamic Book has done the fact forever: we are good and you, son of a white Christian mother, are a demon, mother fucking white idiotic alien troll.

Take my luminous dick, and enjoy my strong eye

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 4 2025 23:19 utc | 75

George the Zeroth | Oct 4 2025 22:58 utc | 68
Follow the link and delete the last 6 (%C2%A0) characters in the search bar; a new link will be highlighted, I don’t know why this happens.

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 4 2025 23:20 utc | 76

‘Good night, here’s another video about the train cars.
https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/10/04/1745002.html
Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 4 2025 21:22 utc | 56
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The link that appears as ‘https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/10/04/1745002.html’ in Sany Dnepropetrovsk’s comment actually links to ‘https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/10/04/1745002.html%C2%A0’ as you will see in your browser when you click it.

If you remove the ‘%C2%A0’ so that the link ends in ‘1745002.html’ it will then open the same page that Jeremy Rhymings-Lang linked to because it’s the same link.

Jeremy’s link worked for me.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 4 2025 23:23 utc | 77

Breitbart is not MoA.  The comment section is strong, however, even if the contributors have not sat on the SMO and Project Ukraine as barflies like us have.
 
Nonetheless, here are some unvarnished responses to “Putin’s savage attack on the passenger train” <<
 
Commenter 1:  “On the eve of Russia / Ukr talks, ZelenSSky conducted terror drone strikes inside Russia: bombing civilian trains in Bryansk on May 31 and then Kursk the following day: Seven dead, 30 injured, including two children.  The nazi dictator of Kiev has adopted ISIS terror tactics on Russian civilians.”
 
Commenter 2:  “Russians destroyed a NATO night train convoy, a special convoy of trains with special military stuff, refueling, hub, railway junction.  NATO deposited supplies in Lviv and Lutsk, towards the front lines. They used trucks, the Ukr postal service, and civilian buses to transport war materials.  After the bombing of Lviv, they no longer unloaded in Lutsk, but by train, where they unloaded at various warehouses along the logistics route, in Romania, Baltic States, Poland, in logistic hubs along the railway.”
 
Commenter 3:  “Lil Z loves his human shields.  It’s in orphanages and maternity hospitals that Lil Z hides his troops and weapons.”
 
Commenter 4:  “In real news as seen on multiple Telegram Channels this military cargo train stopped at a rail station was struck by Russian drones. Ukraine’s narrative warriors showed a picture of the lone passenger car attached to the train, probably the Guards car, and claimed an attack on a passenger train at a train station. Western outlets, BB included, run with this spin without checking both sides of the story or even thinking it through. Reasons? Overton windows group think, maybe. Or downright information warfare to help Ukraine score more weapons from the Trump WH.”
 
Commenter 5:  “And one dead from multiple 90kg warhead strikes on a passenger train at the station? Ah, no. Try maybe 100, if it were true. The whole “story” is B.S.”
 
So Breitbart, a normie-leaning concervative media site nonetheless exhibits some astute chat participants.  Suffice to say, it’s not as if many in the U.S. are bamboozled by Volodymyr’s crocodile tears.  As long in the tooth as this war now is, conservatives in the U.S. have caught wise to Volodymyr’s tactics & schtick.  It’s not working on them.
 
The narrative is dying even as Volodymyr, unable to read the room, keeps spinning it forward.
 
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 23:27 utc | 78

And, when Nietzsche was talking about the humans to be better humans and transform this bad tempered solipsitic humanity in a self conscious men and women?

Nah. Fascism.

Do not recognize who you are, never.

Your identity, never.

Try to be the same

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 4 2025 23:27 utc | 79

See what I mean about algorithms, I couldn’t even slow a bot on MOA.
Take note.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 23:28 utc | 80

‘Take my luminous dick, and enjoy my strong eye’

I love that part of the Koran. The Upanishads really need to up their game here.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 4 2025 23:30 utc | 81

Large Language Models (LLMs) at least for me are a clever toy but mostly useless – I can’t tolerate this level of errors.  Suppose I use one to pay my bills and it gets 9 correct and the tenth it totally screws up, or maybe pays a bill I don’t owe?  Not practical.
Posted by: TG | Oct 4 2025 20:23 utc | 48
 
You’ve convinced me you know nothing about LLMs. You sound like a person who would believe the Indian voice claiming to be working for the Microsoft Help Desk and they have noticed some errors on your computer. A fool and his money are soon separated–the foundation of Capitalism rests upon this bedrock truism. 🙂

Posted by: dodger | Oct 4 2025 23:32 utc | 82

Yes, I missed the link Jeremy Rhymings-Lang, sorry, here is another one from Anatoly https://t.me/ASupersharij/46367   So far, it’s quiet for me. 02:33 October 5

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 4 2025 23:33 utc | 83

Unless he’s really drunk and po’d, nah, my first instincts always kept me alive.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 4 2025 23:33 utc | 84

this message from Putin. … http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/77208Posted by: UNIQUE | Oct 4 2025 20:52 utc | 50

I don’t understand folks expecting news of any sort out of this, anticipating yet another big speech of the same. There is no real news at all, despite trying to bold some parts into relevancy.
Perhaps because Putin is the sheer embodiment of continuity and credibility; saying something and sticking to it, even 10 years on. Like a good solo comedian who only needs to slightly tweak minor parts of the script to reflect recent developments (or the lack thereof). The audience loves it or hates it.
However, saying one thing and actually walking the talk could use a major firmware upgrade on Putin’s part (western leader sockpuppets are no benchmark here). Hence Alastair Crooke’s recent assessment could deserve more attention.
But to Putin’s credit, he never said when decision making centers or Ukrainian logistics hubs on NATO territory would actually be eliminated, and in this long game, patience is a quality in itself, especially when absolute craziness befalls the enemy before its implosion.  There could be no more visible public pants sh*tting than the drone scare across the EU, bringing down CO2 emissions even more than the failing EU economies involuntarily do themselves anyways while all prices just keep on going up (faster than in more-and-more self-reliant Russia), accelerating the process. 
Orbán Viktor:

“Considering that we Europeans are going through a serious economic crisis, we need every penny. We have already spent 175–180 billion euros, and every year we will have to spend 40, 50, 60 billion again and again. We simply do not have this money… We are not able to finance this war and at the same time want to defeat such an enemy, only to continue existing with the same money and economic power afterwards. All of this is an illusion. It will collapse, and the consequences will be serious,” said the Hungarian prime minister [on TV, presumably this Saturday, via SLG].

Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 4 2025 23:51 utc | 85

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this message from Putin. … http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/77208Posted by: UNIQUE | Oct 4 2025 20:52 utc | 50
 

I don’t understand folks expecting news of any sort out of this, anticipating yet another big speech of the same. There is no real news at all, despite trying to bold some parts into relevancy.
 
Perhaps because Putin is the sheer embodiment of continuity and credibility; saying something and sticking to it, even 10 years on. Like a good solo comedian who only needs to slightly tweak minor parts of the script to reflect recent developments (or the lack thereof). The audience loves it or hates it.
 
However, saying one thing and actually walking the talk could use a major firmware upgrade on Putin’s part (western leader sockpuppets are no benchmark here). Hence Alastair Crooke’s recent assessment could deserve more attention.
 
But to Putin’s credit, he never said when decision making centers or Ukrainian logistics hubs on NATO territory would actually be eliminated, and in this long game, patience is a quality in itself, especially when absolute craziness befalls the enemy before its implosion.  There could be no more visible public pants sh*tting than the drone scare across the EU, bringing down CO2 emissions even more than the failing EU economies involuntarily do themselves anyways while all prices just keep on going up (faster than in more-and-more self-reliant Russia), accelerating the process. 
 
Orbán Viktor:

“Considering that we Europeans are going through a serious economic crisis, we need every penny. We have already spent 175–180 billion euros, and every year we will have to spend 40, 50, 60 billion again and again. We simply do not have this money… We are not able to finance this war and at the same time want to defeat such an enemy, only to continue existing with the same money and economic power afterwards. All of this is an illusion. It will collapse, and the consequences will be serious,” said the Hungarian prime minister [on TV, presumably this Saturday, via SLG].

Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 4 2025 23:53 utc | 86

Well of course you can’t believe a word of anything published by The Telegraph.  I mean c’mon.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 4 2025 23:56 utc | 87

Witch part of the sacred Koran don’t you understand? God is here to judge all of the infidels.

Those atheists who don’t repent to the most high DMT, will suffer the most. Those white, colonialist, European, American, Australian, Netherlands, New Zealanders, will suffer the most.

Because, Israel is the son of God.

And all of the humanity, except us, is trash.

Jehová is with us. Our God is better than yours.

Take it easy, inhuman gazari.

Must ask an ape.

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 4 2025 23:56 utc | 88

Opposition forces storm the presidential palace in Tbilisi. 
 
It’s a reminder of how Continuity of Agenda, like rust, never sleeps.
 
No nation targeted for regime change has ever fended off, free & clear, the hegemon’s efforts to accomplish its mission.   Matters simmer on the back burner for a while, a detente so to speak, and everything seems quiet, but…
 
Looking at you, Venezuela.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 4 2025 23:59 utc | 89

Sadly they’re going to take it like in 1933. I’m sorry brother it’s happening in the USA too even faster. 
Algorithm disaster, theirs.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 5 2025 0:07 utc | 90

Venezuela doesn’t have but poorest and drug deelers

They trafick whith thounsends of tons of fentanilo.

Trust me bro. I work for the anti-drugs movie show.

Trust me, in 4chan ha been called that this communist are the worst.

Trust me, they are insectoids who control our lives. And the PTB kowns and nothing

Yes, i took my meds, but you dont.

Narcisists

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 5 2025 0:14 utc | 91

Nah, really.

Those who are destroying the future of this childs, gonna Pay, in this or another reality. When we die, all of us will confront our hell to recognize our bad acts. The Universe is inevitable, all of we do must be balanced.

Good look with your ouw desires.

Bye

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 5 2025 0:25 utc | 92

Those atheists who don’t repent to the most high DMT, will suffer the most. 
Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 4 2025 23:56 utc | 88
 
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Unlike you, I’m not inclined to worship psychedelic drugs. But it explains a lot that you do. 

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 0:27 utc | 93

I don’t understand folks expecting news of any sort out of this, anticipating yet another big speech of the same. There is no real news at all, despite trying to bold some parts into relevancy.
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Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 4 2025 23:51 utc | 85
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Then why were there howls “You can’t post that” when I posted this similar article:
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I think the following makes a very important point.
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That needs to be more widely known.
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And, it would be interesting to know the legal situation.
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IN 2014 THE UNITED STATES (JEWS) CONDUCTED THE 2014 COUP IN UKRAINE
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In 2014 the United States (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the democratically elected Yanukovich government which was considered insufficiently pro-Europe).
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Many in Eastern Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
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A civil war began.
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The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
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and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
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The coup-government sent in the military to deal with the eastern rebels.
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The media claimed, and still claims, that the U.S. backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and they champion (vigorously support) a march to the Russian border.
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WHAT IF THE RUSSIANS HAD CONDUCTED THE COUP IN 2014?
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Imagine that in 2014 Russia (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the Yanukovich government which was considered too pro-Europe).
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Many in Western Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
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A civil war began.
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The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
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and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
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The coup-government called in the Russian military to deal with the western rebels.
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Of course, to be consistent, the media would have to claim that the Russian backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and that they championed a march of the Russian military to the Polish border.
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The important point is that statements such as “Ukraine will not give up any of its land,” and “Zelenski Rejects Giving Land” make no sense.
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This is because the coup-government, and its successors, never established authority over all of Ukraine.
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ANOTHER SCENARIO
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What if the Chinese (aligned with a leftist/communist faction in the Ukrainian government) had conducted a coup in Kiev. Would this give them authority over all of Ukraine?
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What is the legal situation?

Posted by: UNIQUE | Oct 5 2025 0:29 utc | 94

IN 2014 THE UNITED STATES (JEWS) CONDUCTED THE 2014 COUP IN UKRAINE
Posted by: UNIQUE | Oct 5 2025 0:29 utc | 94
Stop with “the Jews” already.
Just fucking stop.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Oct 5 2025 0:36 utc | 95

Let’s change it up to ours. I see computer geniuses out there, the algorithm is simple, bad man made it, let simple men with brains and dignity defeat who love humanism no matter what color or preprogrammed septic religion. they want us to hate.
we can do this, let’s change the algorithm. Peace.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 5 2025 0:38 utc | 96

If you read, It a sarcasm, dude.

Do not take all so strict.

Do no loose your good sense of music.

I have one for you. For me is the best and nobody has able to sing like this guy:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cKClQ-Kevjg&list=RDcKClQ-Kevjg&start_radio=1&pp=ygUNQWxmcmVkIGRlbGxlcqAHAQ%3D%3D

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 5 2025 0:51 utc | 97

Then why were there howls “You can’t post that” when I posted this similar article:
 
UNIQUE [sic!] | Oct 5 2025 0:29 utc | 94
 
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It isn’t so much your inane comment with its useless what-ifs that’s so objectionable; it’s that you’ve posted it (1) repeatedly and (2) under several different usernames — both of which were bannable offenses back when the site owner was enforcing his own rules.
 

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 0:54 utc | 98

That needs to be more widely known.Posted by: UNIQUE | Oct 5 2025 0:29 utc | 94

No. If my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle.
 
You repeatedly come here to run a series of hypotheticals nobody could care about, because Russia nor China wouldn’t (and couldn’t) pull off such operations; concluded by asking about a legality nobody could care about, because might makes right — as far as NATO is concerned, and NATO members call the shots in the UNSC, other international bodies and global media. (Interspersed anti-Jewish agit in your post won’t help you either.)

 
 
 

Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 5 2025 0:58 utc | 99

ya I know the truth hurts,

Posted by: dobby | Oct 5 2025 1:13 utc | 100