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October 22, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-246
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 22 2025 16:24 utc | 259 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 22 2025 17:00 utc | 1 Hello, here is the “hero” Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 22 2025 17:05 utc | 2 Storm Shadow deets:
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 22 2025 17:12 utc | 3 No regime change in Kieve, no ceasefire and no summit either. Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 22 2025 17:19 utc | 4 The remnant Ukraine and Sweden signed a contract for Ukraine to purchase 150 (!) JAS-Grippen fighters. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 22 2025 17:28 utc | 5 Perfidious Albion not only hosts Neo-Nazi ships but Neo-Nazi’s as well – never ever trust Perfidious Albion. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 22 2025 17:32 utc | 6 Never mind I’m sure those evil b&stards the EU bigwigs – will steal billions more from the public purse to keep the nasty Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine afloat – when will EU citizens wake the f*ck up and drag these b&stards out of office. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 22 2025 17:35 utc | 7 Perfidious Albion looking out for the thieving Germans – who have stolen from Russia. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 22 2025 17:38 utc | 8 They’ll be a kick-up from the Ukrainians who are loving in Canada over this – Chrystia Freeland will be pulling her hair out over this one. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 22 2025 17:41 utc | 9 Yahoo News this morning declared that Russia is bmobing children AGAIN! Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Oct 22 2025 17:45 utc | 10 “Hungary & Romania Burn, Not from Russia Attack” Posted by: WMG | Oct 22 2025 18:08 utc | 11 99 Luftballon…
The main airport in Lithuania was disrupted and several flights diverted after several balloons full of contraband cigarettes were detected floating over the Belarusian border. What’s worse, it’s the second time this has happened, a full-scale security alert because of balloons full of cigarettes. Posted by: Altai | Oct 22 2025 18:18 utc | 12
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/49676 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 22 2025 18:31 utc | 13 “Romanian and Hungarian Oil Refineries Hit by Explosions” Posted by: WMG | Oct 22 2025 18:37 utc | 14 @12 Norwegian Posted by: Ali | Oct 22 2025 18:39 utc | 15 Ukraine apparently attacked another refinery in Hungary. Ukrainian media is celebrating. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 22 2025 19:09 utc | 16
Posted by: Peter | Oct 22 2025 19:13 utc | 17 Yahoo News this morning declared that Russia is bmobing children AGAIN!They never tire of this propaganda. Posted by: Original Newbie | Oct 22 2025 19:19 utc | 18 EU’s Leaders & Zelensky: Posted by: Blind Bridge Troll | Oct 22 2025 19:24 utc | 19 The Trump is a friend scenario is once again preventing Russia from declaring war on the EU before the EU can rebuild its MIC and prepare its people to defeat Russia. IMO, if Russia does not declare war on NATO soon,and aggressively attack and defeat the EU there will be no Russia after 2030. Posted by: snake | Oct 22 2025 19:28 utc | 20 trump has allegedly lifted restrictions on long range missiles of other countries for ukraine. Posted by: J | Oct 22 2025 19:39 utc | 21 trump has allegedly lifted restrictions on long range missiles of other countries for ukraine. Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 22 2025 19:43 utc | 22 The top-down Oligarch controlled nation state system is the problem.. There is no bottom up counter to that top down force. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Oct 22 2025 19:43 utc | 23 @Ali | Oct 22 2025 18:39 utc | 14 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 22 2025 19:47 utc | 24 Some small minded people in this forum called me a troll or worse an AI bot. Posted by: Louis | Oct 22 2025 19:53 utc | 25 Unfortunately, I must state, if need be, that Russian strategy increasingly resembles a blind, lame rhinoceros with a tiny brain. Posted by: Cagliostro | Oct 22 2025 19:53 utc | 26 GPS precision navigation is accessed by a top secret (US military) “key”. The key is distributed to highly classified machines, which provide the long range fires the key to access navigation. Posted by: paddy | Oct 22 2025 19:56 utc | 27 So are the bloody missiles on of the dam menu or of the menu. Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 22 2025 20:15 utc | 28 James Carden, ex US state department advisor tells Sky News his sources say RUAF:AFU casualty ratio is 1:36. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 22 2025 20:15 utc | 29 DJT hates Volo and his buddies the Vindman Brothers with a passion……….Volo is not going get those Tomahawks….bank on it…….. Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 22 2025 20:16 utc | 30 Typo Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 22 2025 20:17 utc | 31 What a mess, sorry. Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 22 2025 20:22 utc | 32 DJT hates Volo and his buddies the Vindman Brothers with a passion……….Volo is not going get those Tomahawks….bank on it…….. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 22 2025 20:22 utc | 33 ” Posted by: Louis | Oct 22 2025 20:25 utc | 34 Louis@24 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Oct 22 2025 20:26 utc | 35 Hhhmmm Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 20:34 utc | 36 Z says the now not given but have to be purchased Gripen arrivals start next year, but Sweden says delivery commences in 3 years as factory is being set up. But how is z going to pay…we know an Ukraine insider has said cannot pay back loans for 35 years…next year Ukraine has a shortfall of 60b , half their proposed budget….it’s like UK loaned 19.5 billion couple months ago to the bloodsucker parasite. IMF is trying to work out figures for past and future loans???? Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 20:40 utc | 37 Louis @ 33 Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 22 2025 20:40 utc | 38 🇺🇦🇸🇪Zelensky and the Prime Minister of Sweden signed an agreement to purchase up to 150 Swedish Gripen fighter jets, which Kiev previously wanted to receive for free.– This was announced by the Prime Minister of Sweden, Ulf Kristersson, at their joint press conference. Specific delivery dates are not indicated.- “This agreement is not aimed at any specific new deliveries at this moment, it is about long-term cooperation and the possibility of reaching a large agreement between our countries. Something around 100–150 Gripen E fighters. This will allow building very serious air forces in Ukraine,” Kristersson noted.- Zelensky stated that these aircraft will begin to be used next year.In reality the first jets of this type are not available because thay are still in development. They can be received by Ukraine in no less than three years priced at a whooping 120mil eu per jet. But what’s important is to sign a mumbojumbo contract and send payment😁.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 20:41 utc | 39 Posted by: snake | Oct 22 2025 19:28 utc | 19
While the EU and UK oligarchs certainly would like a return to militarism it won’t work in the near or medium term. First, they do not have the industrial capacity nor the people trained to be workers for those industries. Second, the populations used to a life of ease are not going to put up with the discomfort of military training–these people are trained to value comfort and security above all things. Thirdly, we see the beginning of alternate information outlets in Europe that are increasingly attracting attention despite the extraordinary mendacity of the official media which will be, by 2030, be seen as what they actually are which is that they are controlled by CIA/MI6/Mossad–that reality is so painfully obvious that there is no way that will fly. Besides, it will be hard to actually finance the industry required and Europe is already behind technologically to Russia/China in critical areas–in fact, Ukraine has itself the best military industry and military in Europe and it is failing to stop the Russian army despite incredible amounts of money that has been thrown at this war. We have to remember that this war is a civilizational war of the Western (new) Roman Empire against the rest of the world and it has also been weakened by a kind of barbarian invasion that resulted from the Empire’s imperial wars in West Asia and elsewhere. While I see the oligarchs push for fascism in Europe I don’t see most people falling for it–Europeans are probably a bit more stupid than people in the USA (who are gradually getting him to where things are at) they are not stupid enough to swallow the obvious fascism their “leaders” want. Their war-project is doomed before it even gets off the ground. I don’t think, at this point, people are going to follow a false-flag event like Americans did after 9/11. Too many people are aware of these things. There’s one more thing I want to emphasize–the leaders that are playing with fire are mediocre at best–this is not just by accident–if you want reach the level of being given official positions you have to, by the logic of the current System, be souless and meidocre at best. While some of the top Nazis were silly martinets, there were enough capable people to make Germany powerful enough to come close to capturing all of Europe. Those people don’t exist in Europe. Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 22 2025 20:42 utc | 40 Ukraine demands freedom to use $163 billion of frozen Russian assets, Reuters reports.According to the agency, Kiev insists that the EU loan funds of $163 billion, formed based on frozen Russian assets, should not be restricted and used only for European weapons.The money, the publication notes, is needed to purchase weapons from any countries, to restore damages from Russian attacks, and to pay compensation to victims.Part of the loan will be directed to cooperation with European defense companies, but Ukraine demands autonomy in spending the funds.The majority of the loan will also go to restoring critical infrastructure, and a smaller part to compensating citizens.Earlier, the Spanish El Pais already wrote that Ukraine will have enough funds to exist only until April 2026.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 20:43 utc | 41 @Snake 19 Posted by: sam | Oct 22 2025 20:43 utc | 42 EU leaders are expected to approve the 19th package of sanctions tomorrow, which moves the ban on imports of Russian LNG one year earlier – from January 2027, Bloomberg reports.Austria, Hungary, and Slovakia have already withdrawn their objections and promised not to block the sanctions. Recall, Vienna tried to ease current sanctions so that its Raiffeisen Bank could unfreeze its 2 billion euros in Russia, but abandoned this demand after failing to gain EU support.The new restrictions also target Russian banks; creditors in Central Asia; several cryptocurrency exchanges; Chinese and Indian companies that helped Russia circumvent sanctions; impose a ban on the export of goods worth more than 40 billion euros used in Moscow’s military industry, including minerals, ceramics, and rubber; and blacklist more than 100 additional oil tankers.More EU sanctions… oh no 😂@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 20:44 utc | 43
Posted by: sam | Oct 22 2025 20:44 utc | 44 That needs to be more widely known. Posted by: UNI | Oct 22 2025 20:44 utc | 45 In war. Speed is of essence Rather than dithering to give time to the end y to prepare better than present situation. Posted by: sam | Oct 22 2025 20:48 utc | 46 Even if Trump was Putin’s best friend ever, he cannot deliver the long-term security that Russia requires. Posted by: sam | Oct 22 2025 20:49 utc | 47 Early sign of Putin’s stupidity. Posted by: sam | Oct 22 2025 20:50 utc | 48 Dec 2024 Posted by: sam | Oct 22 2025 20:52 utc | 49 Right now england is impotent, it cant even defend it selve never mind attack Russia.
Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 22 2025 20:53 utc | 50 The Neocons really ramped up their propaganda campaign over the last few days. It seems hydraulic. The worse things are on the front lines, the more they double down on asymmetric strategies. Bombing Hungary’s oil refineries really shows a level of desperation I did not foresee. Posted by: Northern Observer | Oct 22 2025 20:59 utc | 51 Bulgari and Croatia told Nato go to hell amid Nato attempt to start war with Russia. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 22 2025 21:05 utc | 52 Ukraine apparently attacked another refinery in Hungary. Ukrainian media is celebrating. Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 22 2025 21:11 utc | 53 trump now says the report about us lifting restrictions in the media is fake. Posted by: J | Oct 22 2025 21:12 utc | 54 Yup, really worth the wait…considering the rate of inflation in never never land
That means NEVER. Moreover, this only concerns those officially recognized as deceased. And in Ukraine, that is an absolute minority of the fallen soldiers. So, it is precisely they who (maybe) will receive something… in EIGHT years (if Ukraine still exists by then and has the money).The rest can even forget about it.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 21:14 utc | 55 As long as the EU don’t need steel for their ships and tanks, and cutting edge chips for their software to run on, they will probably succeed in defeating Russia. Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 22 2025 21:17 utc | 56
No summit in Budapest? Hungary’s foreign minister Szijjarto calls it an act of disinformation instigated by those (Europeens) who fear nothing more than peace in Ukraine. Posted by: grunzt | Oct 22 2025 21:23 utc | 57 Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 22 2025 21:17 utc | 55 I doubt EU will ever be able to establish an efficient MIC industry. There are simply too many things – every prerequisite for it is broken. The German consumer firms are all dead, as are autos, Airbus could go soon, the Nexperia fiasco, green energy to which hundreds of billions and trillions of euros were invested and misallocated. Taxation, regulation, EU bureaucracy expansion consuming everything, billionaires and scientists and professionals leaving EU core countries etc. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 22 2025 21:25 utc | 58 @Posted by: Blind Bridge Troll | Oct 22 2025 19:24 utc | 18 Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 22 2025 21:47 utc | 60 @ Posted by: snake | Oct 22 2025 19:28 utc | 19 Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 22 2025 21:49 utc | 61 I read a piece this morning ( which I can no longer find) which described that the RF has deployed a drone capable of flight for long periods of time and which monitors for “micro” rf transmissions associated with the location of drone operators. Posted by: frithguild | Oct 22 2025 21:52 utc | 62
———- Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Oct 22 2025 21:54 utc | 63 While britain has been wageing a proxy war against Russia (fact). No one seems to notice that england got sucsessfully invaded by israel in the form of a coup., installing it’s own puppet govenment and oposition partys in the uk. Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 22 2025 21:54 utc | 64 @ Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 22 2025 16:24 utc | 259 Miss Spooky Great Gamer ‘Modesty’ Blaise, (a ww2 newspaper cartoon heroine who couldn’t keep her clothes on) is just another in a long line of the Collective waster, deadlier than the male, shapeshifter fascists. Like Nudelmann and many a Freeklands and any number of shrieking ziofascist harridans that have clicked their fingers as dynastic shapeshifter Queens. Like the current Lynne de Rothschild and ‘stand up Miriam’ who calls the potus when she likes … Yup that’s it’s their enduring delusion and they are sticking to it! Unfortunately for them the other 85% of humanity – a super majority – The dragon bear, SCO, Global South and their new POLYCENTRIC, world order says NO! Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 22 2025 21:55 utc | 65 Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 20:41 utc | 38 Posted by: Mike R | Oct 22 2025 22:00 utc | 66 Btw for the trolly bus full of stinking socks that has rolled into the bar I left you a bone to chew and gag on in the previous thread. Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 22 2025 22:03 utc | 67 Btw 2 – The Donald seems to have found his trousers! Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 22 2025 22:12 utc | 68 Posted by: Mike R | Oct 22 2025 22:00 utc | 65 Posted by: duck n cover | Oct 22 2025 22:13 utc | 69 Dance w/ the one who brought ya Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 22 2025 22:15 utc | 70 Imigration ? Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 22 2025 22:18 utc | 71
It’s only logical that the big devil and the two small devils (UK, Israel) should work together. But probably we need to change the naming and call Israel the big one and USA, UK the two subordinate ones (inspired by former Iranian leader Ahmadinedschad). Posted by: grunzt | Oct 22 2025 22:21 utc | 72 Today Brjansk…Tomorrow whatever. It is really astonishing to see how the people of the Russian Federation allow the Jewish Neoliberal Trojan horse to destroy their country bit by bit until nothing is left…Then the final Nuclear strike will come. I don’t know what to say at this point any more…Maybe the Russians are really that fucking dumb not to see the obvious that their country is ruined by a little bunch of traitors of a specific origin…Then they deserve not better…But if even very loyal workhorses like that woman on youtube are starting to wake up there are not many excuses left no? Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Oct 22 2025 22:23 utc | 73 “Ебать! нахуй! блядь! ёбаный в рот!”https://x.com/UkranaziAndriy/status/1980882725629489427Whenever Ukies are under stress they suddenly remember that they can speak Russian after all! Posted by: tucenz | Oct 22 2025 22:24 utc | 74 About payments for the deceased: The promised
That means NEVER. Moreover, this only concerns those officially recognized as deceased. And in Ukraine, that is an absolute minority of the fallen soldiers. So, it is precisely they who (maybe) will receive something… in EIGHT years (if Ukraine still exists by then and has the money).The rest can even forget about it.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 22:24 utc | 76 ‼️🇺🇦😂 The promised production of 3000 cruise missiles by Zelensky a year ago did not happen, – stated in the Rada➖”I doubted it even then, making statements is easier than fulfilling them. We will not have 3000 cruise missiles, and in fact, they do not exist. I think we need to count how many there are and ask the president. Why was this task not completed and who is to blame. But it was unrealistic from the very beginning – you just need to calculate how much good missiles cost,” said MP Kostenko.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Oct 22 2025 22:26 utc | 77 If Putin gets fed up with constant British participation in attacks within Russia itself he could easily retaliate. He may be able to get away with a nuclear attack, or any type he wants. The UK has no general bomb shelters and hardly any air defences. It is essentially helpless and whether the Russians would strike at many places – air bases, missile launchers, intelligence hubs, command centres, military depots etc – or just micro-target ones like the MI6 building – it is entirely up to them. I can’t see America coming in to a 100% nuclear war with Russia for sticking up for England after it has already been attacked. They would have to put up with it to survive. Posted by: Ray | Oct 22 2025 22:31 utc | 78 *** Dreaming the impossible dream. Posted by: frithguild | Oct 22 2025 22:32 utc | 79 @76 Posted by: paddy | Oct 22 2025 22:46 utc | 80 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 22 2025 22:15 utc | 69 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 22 2025 22:52 utc | 81 Why doesn’t Hungary invoke NATO Article 5 against Ukraine? (my sarcasm, I guess) Posted by: malenkov | Oct 22 2025 23:24 utc | 82 Posted by: snake | Oct 22 2025 23:48 utc | 83 Night strike vaporizes NATO bunker near Kiev: https://sputnikglobe.com/20251022/nato-officers-headquarters-bunker-near-kiev-destroyed-in-night-strike–underground-1122999625.html Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Oct 22 2025 23:55 utc | 84 @Fool Me Twice 62 Posted by: rumpelpumbel | Oct 23 2025 0:16 utc | 85 Putin and the RF Duma have frequently stated that they want: Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 23 2025 1:13 utc | 87 Mark2@63……it’s not complicated, they just want their country back…….well on their way, only 98 years to go…… Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 23 2025 1:18 utc | 88 ‘Hence israel is running the british running the ukraine conflict againat Russia.’ Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 23 2025 1:29 utc | 89 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 23 2025 1:13 utc | 86 Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 23 2025 1:38 utc | 90 Posted by: frithguild | Oct 22 2025 21:52 utc | 61 Posted by: Milites | Oct 23 2025 2:20 utc | 91 Re: Posted by: Cagliostro | Oct 22 2025 19:53 utc | 25
Posted by: Julian | Oct 23 2025 2:25 utc | 92 Re: Posted by: UNI | Oct 22 2025 20:44 utc | 44
No, you have this wrong – the media would do no such thing.
Posted by: Julian | Oct 23 2025 2:40 utc | 93 From ZH
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 23 2025 3:16 utc | 94 GPS precision navigation is accessed by a top secret (US military) “key”. The key is distributed to highly classified machines, which provide the long range fires the key to access navigation. Posted by: averros | Oct 23 2025 3:26 utc | 95 Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 22 2025 21:55 utc | 64 Posted by: Spiny Norman | Oct 23 2025 3:29 utc | 96 *** So we’re back to the Battle of the Atlantic again, as a comparison. Posted by: frithguild | Oct 23 2025 3:45 utc | 97 osted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 23 2025 1:13 utc | 86Mr Hengst, Ive thought all along and said on MoA, Russia will take the four oblasts fully and then, stop and wait and see. They haven’t a plan after the taking of the four oblasts. IMO Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 23 2025 3:57 utc | 98 Perché mai la sconfitta di un avversario più debole e indebolito dovrebbe essere un obiettivo russo? Posted by: Cagliostro | Oct 23 2025 4:08 utc | 99
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