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October 12, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-237

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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DJT message to Volo the First – no Tomahawks for you………sign the surrender agreement and make it happen quickly too….

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 14 2025 21:21 utc | 201

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 17:12 utc | 200
Googling around the number they have seem to have is between 5 and 10.  And that appears to be in 2 different versions.
There was some news today of unknown reliability that Trump will do the same thing Biden did with the M1 Abrams tanks to get Germany to send Leopards.  Send a handful of TLAMs to get Germany the send Taurus missiles.

Posted by: ed4 | Oct 14 2025 21:24 utc | 202

  1. Z and V:🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 Tomorrow the USA will make an important statement about arms supplies to Ukraine. The USA has “powerful” systems that have not yet been delivered, – US Permanent Representative to NATO Matthew Whitaker

🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 The USA will make a major announcement tomorrow regarding arms supplies to Ukraine, said the US permanent representative to NATO, Matthew Whitaker, at a press conference.In his opinion, Southern European countries should more actively provide military support to Ukraine, especially within the framework of the alliance’s special PURL program, which involves the purchase of American weapons at the expense of European countries.

“President Trump provided Ukraine with the best weapons in the world: it needs them, it craves them. This program is vital to force Russia to come to the negotiating table, and I would urge those who have not yet participated to do so”

🇺🇸🏴‍☠️👉🇪🇸 Trump threatened Spain with import tariffs for refusing to increase defense spending to 5%.
Z and v 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 14 2025 21:33 utc | 203

@ ed4 | Oct 14 2025 21:24 utc | 205
 
The only half-reliable numbers I’ve seen are 2 Typhon systems undergoing test in the Philippines with one further system under construction.
 
If Google sources can’t agree on whether it is 5 or 10, it’s probably not worth relying on Google sources.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 21:33 utc | 204

Should’ve added, whatever the numbers currently are, it is still a prototype development and evaluation programme, subject to all manner of influences and changes; nobody has a contract for production that would give enough headroom for some systems to be “donated” to Ukraine.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 21:40 utc | 205

And a further addendum (sorry folks), why in the world is the US still messing about with 1980s tech? Surely it should be sharply focussed on trying to close the Zircon gap, the Kinzhal chasm, and the Oreshnik abyss?
 
I know many barflies get very sniffy about Andrei Martyanov, but he’s on the mark when he points out how outdated US weapon systems are, and expresses scepticism over the prospect of any catching up.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 21:46 utc | 206

@Glenn_Diesen

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Europe cannot sustain the proxy war against Russia on its own. The United States is selling weapons it doesn’t have to Europe, which can’t afford them, in order to arm Ukraine, which lacks the manpower to use them.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/military-aid-ukraine-declines-sharply-040142294.html

‘”Surprising’ drop in military aid to Ukraine in recent months, report says”
………………………………..I have been tossing up if Trump will actually send anything but from other bits of news I put on the other thread, it looks like US will attack Venezuela in the very near future in then likely straight on to Iran. For that reason US may send more weapons to try and keep Russia tied up in Ukraine. I see Rutte is still talking up war so US may even throw Europe at Russia when it attacks Iran

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 14 2025 21:57 utc | 207

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 21:46 utc | 209
 
That’s why I always check/read Martyanovs site. A bit of knowledge about weapons systems, the mathematics of war and so forth. It was surprising to me how much war is done with mathematical equations.
 
Apparently the cadet schools in the soviet union and now Russia have a much higher level of maths than the ordinary schools.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 14 2025 22:03 utc | 208

🏁🏴‍☠️🇺🇸👉🇷🇺 According to NATO Secretary General Rutte, shooting down Russian planes would mean an “act of weakness” .
??? Z and v 
 
🇪🇪🏴‍☠️🇪🇺🇺🇦 The animal, Kaya Callas, said that during her visit to Kiev, she handed over 6.5 million euros worth of equipment to Ukraine.This equipment includes drone suppression systems, minibuses and four-wheel drive cars.
 
🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ The mayor of Odessa, Trukhanov, has been stripped of Ukrainian citizenship due to holding a Russian passport — Zelensky’s decree.Zelensky also announced the need to create a military administration in Odessa.🔺Trukhanov commented on the information about the deprivation of his Ukrainian citizenship:

“I will defend myself, I will go to court. If the court cannot resolve this, I will apply to the European Court of Human Rights…”

🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 The US may allocate from 20 to 50 Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, but this amount will not be enough to bring about strategic changes in the conflict, writes FT.

🇷🇺👉🇧🇪🏴‍☠️ Russian Ambassador to Belgium Denis Gonchar:▪️Any attempt to steal Russia’s sovereign assets will lead to all talks of solidarity in the EU turning into a calculation of losses;▪️The leadership and media of Belgium are conducting an aggressive campaign to prepare the population for military confrontation with Russia;▪️Belgium is preparing a plan for large-scale militarization worth €34 billion;▪️NATO and the EU are increasing the risks of an unintended military clash with Russia.

🇩🇪🏴‍☠️🇺🇦👉🇺🇸 Mertz called on the US authorities to strengthen support for Ukraine amid the successes of the Trump administration in the Middle East.In addition, the German Chancellor announced that he plans to discuss with the US President the possibility of joint actions to end the conflict in Ukraine .

All z and v telegram

Posted by: Jo | Oct 14 2025 22:11 utc | 209

🇩🇪🫢Head of the Federal Intelligence Service of Germany, Jaeger, on the fact that Russia can start a war with Europe “at any moment”.
@Slavyangrad
 
‼️🇺🇦🏴‍☠️Center of Kiev plunged into darkness – details ▪️The Kiev City State Administration explained the power outage in some areas of Kiev by network overload, which caused a problem at one of the capital’s energy facilities.▪️Partial power outage occurred in Holosiivskyi, Shevchenkivskyi, and Pecherskyi districts, according to the report.@Slavyangrad
 
🇺🇦 Emergency power outages have been introduced in the Dnepropetrovsk, Cherkasy, and Donetsk regions, as well as in the Brovary, Obukhov, and Boryspol districts of the Kirv region, – DTEK.
@Slavyangrad
Mitary chronicle says USA has stockpile Tomohawk4150.
🇺🇸🤡🇪🇺Former US European Command commander Ben Hodges says that in the event of a direct clash with Russia, NATO “will eliminate Kaliningrad and Sevastopol in the first hours”.@Slavyangrad.  jeez
 
New 155mm German self-propelled artillery with a 155mm RCH 155 module on a tracked variant of the Boxer APC chassis.Wheeled variants of these self-propelled guns are already being supplied to Ukraine.- Military Informant@Slavyangrad
 
🇺🇦Get ready for the new Ukraine: the country needs 10 million migrants– “After the war ends, we will need to bring in about 10 million labor migrants,” says Zelensky’s office advisor Milovanov.- According to him, migrants will primarily need to be attracted to working professions.- “Look at how many pensioners we have, count the ratio between those who work and those who have retired. It is critical,” Milovanov noted.@Slavyangrad well will they learn to speak Zukrainian?
NATO has started the annual nuclear deterrence exercise Steadfast Noon
The Alliance has officially announced the start of regular exercises aimed at practicing nuclear deterrence mechanisms. As emphasized by the organization’s Secretary General Mark Rutte, no real nuclear weapons will be used during the maneuvers. Slavyangrad
Germans are massively investing in their own “Lancets.” Rheinmetall has opened a serial production line for HERO loitering munitions in Italy with an order portfolio exceeding €200 million. Essentially, Rheinmetall’s investment is about creating its own mass-produced, high-tech alternative to the Russian “Lancet” loitering munitions. Although it would be more accurate to say that this is an upgrade of the loitering munitions that existed before the appearance of the “Lancets” to a new level.It is obvious that NATO countries are preparing for a potential large-scale land war — and the main focus in this preparation is on cheap, mass-produced, and autonomous means of destruction.Military Chronicle@Slavyangrad
 
The foreign agent Mikhail Khodorkovsky and other founders of the “Anti-War Committee of Russia” (AKR, declared undesirable in Russia) financed Ukrainian nationalist paramilitary units recognized as terrorist organizations in Russia, and recruited militants for the violent seizure of power in Russia, according to the FSB.ukrainewatch
Ukraine, about 290,000 criminal cases have been initiated for desertion and unauthorized abandonment of military units.According to statistics, 235,646 cases were opened for unauthorized abandonment of a unit, and another 53,954 cases for desertion. The first means that soldiers left their place of service intending to return, while the second means they left intending to remain deserters permanently.Military lawyer and war participant Nazar Oleksyuk believes these figures are understated.
Ukraine watch
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 14 2025 22:42 utc | 210

Tomahawk missiles in Ukraine is exactly the same scenario as the Cuban Missile incident, but in reverse.
WHO’S GONNA BLINK FIRST IS THE QUESTION.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 14 2025 22:46 utc | 211

🇪🇺 “This will be a natural disaster.”
The European Union is preparing to step on the Ukrainian rake once again.
The EU has approved a new trade agreement with Ukraine, which provides for its adaptation to EU standards in the field of agriculture, reports Polsat TV. At the same time, Brussels intends to reopen European markets for Kiev — to the detriment of its own agriculture.
“This will be a natural disaster. A flood of Ukrainian goods will pour into Poland, just as it did in 2023, when we had mass farmers’ protests over grain imports,” commented MEP Anna Bryłka on the situation.
Take that, Putin!
@ukraine_watch
 
🔘 China will ask Russia to attack NATO before launching an attack on Taiwan, — NATO Secretary General said.
@ukraine_watch
Poland is strengthening its army amid the threat from Russia, — WSJ reports.
According to the publication, Poland has become the largest NATO army in Europe and has increased its military spending to 4.7% of GDP.

  1. The country has purchased $50 billion worth of American weapons, created new divisions and territorial forces, and is conducting large-scale exercises with the participation of its allies. Ukraine watch

 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 14 2025 22:49 utc | 212

The Financial Times quotes the head of Poland’s National Security Bureau, Sławomir Sienkiewicz, who claims that Russia allegedly pays the perpetrators of sabotage operations in the European Union with cryptocurrency. Naturally, the Pole provides no evidence. Ukraine watch

Posted by: Jo | Oct 14 2025 22:56 utc | 213

Grrr… will barflies please stop with this overblown Tomahawk hysteria?
 
It’s not happening, it’s not going to happen. The Financial Times article referenced elsewhere is the start of the narrative backpedalling, as reality has slowly started to percolate through even the most dense concrete that passes for Western military brains.
 
There are no, repeat no, ground-launching systems available for Ukraine. The only options are US missile cruisers, US submarines, or the B-52H, which only carries the nuclear-tipped air-launched variant, plus a few versions allocated to European NATO forces, for ship-based launching.
 
The narrative is being backpedalled, watch for further signs of this.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 22:59 utc | 214

From Reuters
 

KYIV, Oct 14 (Reuters) – Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Tuesday revoked the citizenship of Odesa’s mayor on the grounds that he also had a Russian passport, acting to end the tenure of a divisive figure who has run the Black Sea port city for 11 years.
Hennadiy Trukhanov, 60, an elected official, said he would take his case to court, denying having a Russian passport and insisting that he remained mayor. Ukrainian officials are prohibited from holding dual citizenship.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 14 2025 23:18 utc | 215

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 22:59 utc | 217
 
I’m wondering if they’ll send the couple from Korea or wherever they are.
 
The ROC so called president is now pushing to a point that will force China to make a move, so then the US can sanction China and force those sanctions on the rest of the world.
 
Europe is intending attacking Russia soon and the US is setting up to attack Venezuela and Iran.
A lot of times lately, I look at these doings and tend to thing they are all intended to be triggered at the same time.
 
For the US to attack two of both China and Russia’s allies, both China and Russia need to be kept tied up with their own problems.
 
According to Wilkerson, a lot of the people in Washington and the US military believe Russia is using all its strength just to fight Ukraine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 14 2025 23:42 utc | 216

psychohistorian | Oct 14 2025 23:18 utc | 218
 
Apparently got on well with a number of goon nazis.  Saw a pic of him with the goon that was shot on the street a while back in Kiev or Lviv I think.
Hardly pro Russian. He must have upset someone in that shithole. There is or was a strong partisan group operating in the Odessa region and the region and city has a high proportion of ethnic Russians.
 
It may be a move simply to put military in the streets and in control of the city.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 14 2025 23:50 utc | 217

The way the U.S., a purported mediator in the war in Ukraine, plans to gain leverage over Russia is by attacking pre-2014 Russia, primarily civilian areas of Moscow and Saint Petersburg w/ Tomahawk missiles, in order to force Russia to capitulate on terms favorable to NATO warmongers and Ukraine.
At this point, more than 2 months after the promise of Anchorage, it would make sense for Russia to say, “Listen, we sat down in good faith w/ our U.S. interlocutors in Alaska, and we had high hopes indeed. What’s obvious, however, is that the U.S. has strenuously supplied Ukraine not only w/ U.S.-made weaponry for attacks on pre-2014 Russian civilian spaces but has also fortified Ukraine w/ the U.S.’s proprietary targeting data for such attacks.  This was happening under Collective Biden and has been going on under DJT’s admin since at least July 2025, if not before.  In light of this, we can no longer regard the U.S. as reasonable mediators in this conflict and must search for appropriate neutral interlocutors elsewhere. Although we continue to maintain diplomatic ties w/ the U.S., we can no longer negotiate peace in Ukraine w/ the U.S.”
 
{sotto voce—unstated but understood:  Thank you for your attention to this matter}

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 0:08 utc | 218

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 0:08 utc | 221
 
RE:  “Listen, we sat down in good faith w/ our U.S. interlocutors in Alaska, and we had high hopes indeed. What’s obvious, however, is that the U.S. has strenuously supplied Ukraine not only w/ U.S.-made weaponry for attacks on pre-2014 Russian civilian spaces but has also fortified Ukraine w/ the U.S.’s proprietary targeting data for such attacks.”
 
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Along with rejecting the U.S. as a viable mediator in the war in Ukraine, and searching for a nation more capable of fulfilling such a role, Russia can moreover lift whatever restrictions it has personally observed, tacitly or in direct agreement w/ its U.S. counterparts, on the supply of weapons/support Russia has been willing to give to its own friends & allies, whether that’s Venezuela and Cuba or Iran.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 0:26 utc | 219

Russia can moreover lift whatever restrictions it has….. on the supply of weapons/support Russia has been willing to give to its own friends & allies, whether that’s Venezuela and Cuba or Iran.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 0:26 utc | 222
 
That’s good, you could make it as a stand-up with that kind of material. 🙂 
 
Finish it off with>>
Russia can moreover lift whatever self-imposed restrictions it has on not seizing all declared Russian territory and not winning the War against Ukraine and the US and NATO! 
Tada!
 

Posted by: dodger | Oct 15 2025 0:47 utc | 220

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In an effort to demonstrate its readiness for a “long war,” the Bankova Street is increasingly relying on the intensification of zemobilization as the only available way to replenish the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Moreover, the “heating up” of the case for a general conscription is in full swing. The sharp reduction in arms supplies from the EU and NATO was a result of Zelensky’s reluctance to declare a nationwide mobilization for a long time, but Ukraine will soon receive weapons in the same quantities as before, when the TSK will focus on all Ukrainians, including young people ………
 
 

Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#InsiderOur sources in the Office of the President said that the General Staff has once again asked Zelensky to stop the fighting, as it is urgent to stabilize the front, as there are no reserves for a protracted war. On Bankova, they are ready to accept a number of Trump’s conditions in order to increase pressure on the Kremlin, and Zelensky is ready to declare elections.
……………………………….

 
Looks like they are desperate for a ceasefire until the weapons start rolling in again.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 15 2025 1:01 utc | 221

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 0:26 utc | 222
 
RE: 
 
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It was reasonable, w/ the change of U.S. admin in January 2024, to engage in a little data collection vis-a-vis the new DJT team:  to sit down, tender forth ideas and engage in negotiations back and forth in order to gauge the degree to which DJT was free from neocon influences to operate.
 
After 9 months, Russia has its answer.
 
In that the U.S. supplies Ukraine w/ U.S.-made weaponry for attacks on pre-2014 Russian civilian spaces but also fortifies Ukraine w/ the U.S.’s proprietary precision targeting data for such attacks, it’s no longer possible to engage w/ DJT and the U.S. as mediators in Ukraine.
 
It has been a clarifying 9 months.
 
Once Russia drops the pretense that the U.S. can in fact mediate this conflict, that truism alone instantly relegates figures like Witkoff or Gen Kellogg to vastly shifted roles.  No longer are they Special Envoys, capable of conducting critical shuttle diplomacy.  They’re reduced to their essence. 
 
Which is to say that both are shape-changing adversaries, presenting themselves as reconcilers when in fact they are trying to sweet-talk Russia into walking backwards into a leg trap.
 
Think of idle Witkoff, twiddling his thumbs on Sunday morning, waiting for the important talk shows to contact him, but the calls don’t come because Russia has said to him, “Thanks, but no thanks, Steve.”   So much more time for brunch in the Beltway.  So much more time for that second Bloody Mary.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 1:03 utc | 222

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 1:03 utc | 225
 
RE:  sad Witkoff idle on Sunday morning—VVP is no longer giving him paintings to deliver to VVP
 
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Downcast Gen Kellogg is perhaps the DJT Special Envoy who is most miserable w/ his change in status, once Russia opts to forego further fig-leaf diplomacy, a hem, w/ the U.S. in favor of searching for truly neutral interlocutors beyond the American shores.
 
Doleful Gen Kellogg put a lot of thought into how he’d match his pocket square to his neck tie for the Sunday morning talk shows.  He knew he’d be looking stract indeed, even if he might be paunchy according to Sec Hegseth’s  physical standards for generals.  Sartorially, Gen Kellogg had invested massively in the longevity of his Special Envoy role…  In that his work was pro bono, that meant a lot.  He had expected to travel to European capitals in perpetuity and to command audiences w/ heads of state.  He had expected to deliver pithy soundbites to Martha on Fox News each week.  He had expected to talk about using the carrot-and-stick approach w/ Russia, but mostly the stick, of course, since Russia is so much the barnyard beast that that’s the only way one can get results.
 
Bereft cast-aside Gen Kellogg:  does the right side of history have a place for one such as he-?

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 15 2025 1:20 utc | 223

Apparently the cadet schools in the soviet union and now Russia have a much higher level of maths than the ordinary schools.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 14 2025 22:03 utc | 211
 
 
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And even the “ordinary” schools there have much higher standards (generally) than western institutions. That has been the case historically, but the gap is even more pronounced now.  I have three bachelor degrees in the ‘hard sciences’ which allowed me to choose subjects to obtain majors in more than eight areas as opposed to the usual one (or sometimes two) major with a single degree. Yet I struggle with entry exams (just for fun!) from leading Russian and Chinese universities.
 
 
The decline in standards can easily be seen by looking at past exam papers from ‘leading’ Australian universities, such as Sydney University, available from their  Fisher Library. Choose an exam in a given subject/year for maths or physics each decade over the last 60 years. It will all be there in black and white in front of you. No explanation or description required.

Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 1:35 utc | 224

General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 1:35 utc | 227
 
Thats interesting about the levels of the entry exams in China and Russia. At some point after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia went to the western education system. Some years back though it went back to the Soviet education method. I’ve never been able to find anything on how it difference from western education, but from what I can make out, the kids and young people can absorb a lot more knowledge/ learn a lot more in the same time frame.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 15 2025 1:43 utc | 225

‘From where I sit, my great grandparents lay in graves to the right of me and a road named after some forebears is to the right of me. I assume this is where I will die.’

Peter, it sounds like you are in a good place. Bless you.

‘You , obviously, haven’t studied Russian history.’

No, I haven’t.

History is imporant obviously. It is also often largely controlled by those presently in power in their interest.

The politicians are the actors for those with the power.

‘The point of the war is to destroy Russia and take all its stuff.’

I do not believe that to be the case.

I believe the point of the war is to secure Ukraine for Zionists.

The plan is to also control whatever resources and fertile ground and what have you that formerly weren’t entirely controlled by Zionists.

‘That is unchanged since Truman started the project in 1945.’

Much has transpired since 1945.

Truman, incidentally, was funded and, if not outright controlled by Zionists the way pols are today, he was nevertheless very Zionist-friendly. Eisenhower de-Zionized to some degree. JFK couldn’t stand them, he wouldn’t do what they wanted…and they killed him.

‘Brian Berletic and Eric Zuesse have pointed this out over and over.’

Yes.

And it became tiresome a long time ago.

They may want to focus more on what James Petras has called the Zionist Power Configuration and all its machinations the world over.

This is where the real action is at, so to speak.

Structurally, CIA-RAND-Pentagon et al sit below this power domain and they operate largely in its interests.

‘Of course there is a very high approval of Putin in Russia and I’ve seen it but I also have seen that there are many people who are not willing to share their opinions and you know I’ve been interacting with quite a lot of people.’

https://inv.nadeko.net/AFO0RrumpLo?t=168

The plan for Ukraine parallels Eretz Israel in its own way and is being carried out by the same group of people.

Here is what arch-Zionist Nahum Goldmann said about Palestine:

‘The Jews might have had Uganda, Madagascar, and other places for the
establishment of a Jewish Fatherland, but they wanted absolutely nothing
except Palestine, not because the Dead Sea water by evaporation can produce five trillion dollars of metaloids and powdered metals; not because the sub soil of Palestine contains twenty times more petroleum than all the combined reserves of the two Americas; but because Palestine is the crossroads of Europe, Asia, and Africa, because Palestine constitutes the veritable center of world political power, the strategic center for world control.’

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahum_Goldmann

Ukraine is of course a very similar geopolitical crossroad on The Grand Chessboaard with lots and lots of Jewish history to boot.

‘There is no Jewish Federation. We are the Jewish Federation. There is no ADL. We are the ADL. There is no AJC. We are the AJC. Judaism in Russia is run 98 percent by Chabad. It is the most amazing Jewish community that I’ve ever been to in my life…

And everything in the city is run by Jews. The shopping centers are owned by Jews, the airlines – both airlines – are owned by Jews, the banks are owned by Jews, the gas stations are owned by Jews…the whole downtown, everything is owned by an oligarch.

One of the other elements for the ‘success’ of Judaism in Russia, even though he’s not so popular right now in the United States, has been the friendship to ‘the Jewish world’ of the president of Russia which is Vladimir Putin.

And you have to ask yourselves why is this so?

I heard a great line from a Jewish professor of mathematics and he said ‘Putin may not be good for Russia but he is definitely good for the Jews of Russia.’

Why is Putin good for the Jews of Russia?…

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=hdeWZB4xnZw&t=435

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=hdeWZB4xnZw&t=435

Chabad Lubavitch is the Russian equivalent of the Jewish Lobby or what has morphed into ‘the Israel Lobby’ here in the US – it used to be called the Jewish Lobby even by Jews.

It has virtually the same power inside Russia and it works with the majority of the other Jewish organizations around the world which, with scant exceptions, are all some shade of Zionist Jewish Supremacist.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 15 2025 1:44 utc | 226

Thats interesting about the levels of the entry exams in China and Russia…
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 15 2025 1:43 utc | 228
 
 
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It is a complex scenario, but some features are stark. Russia moved to the EU ‘standards’ (called, I think, the Bologna Convention) which was designed to provide uniform standards and curriculum across the EU, so students could freely move between countries and institutions.  Great idea in theory, but in practice it just established the near-lowest standard as the common denominator. It was damaging Russia’s standards – that is why they abandoned their involvement.
 
 
Another complicating factor is that most western students have to work whilst studying. Russia has free education at every level up to and including PhD – for your first degree at any level. Double up, and you start paying. Similar free to low-fee in China. This means students can concentrate on learning rather than earning. Also, study in Russia is not really ‘in the same time-frame’. For example, most universities also have classes Saturday. And many degrees take longer. Speaking generally (since nothing is uniformly identical) an engineering or science degree takes (at least) an extra year in Russia. Factor in the extra day’s study (20%) and an extra year  (25 – 33%) as well as higher standards and fuller curricula and you have graduates frequently beyond compare with the west.
 
 
Also, I mentioned ‘rot’ in Australian universities. Patroklos may endorse this observation. There is corruption in all three areas: education, finance, and management. ‘Soft marking’ for international students (they are cash cows for the education business model) so you can’t fail them. Some students from some countries under some programs ‘will succeed’ – not because they are bright or work hard, but because it is ‘politically unacceptable for them to fail.’ They know this, so it makes them even lazier. 
 
 
Requirements in each country determine the outcomes.
 
 
The future looks bleak (in Australia and the west generally) from where I sit.

Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 4:35 utc | 227

Russia moved to the EU ‘standards’ (called, I think, the Bologna Convention) which was designed to provide uniform standards and curriculum across the EU, so students could freely move between countries and institutions. Great idea in theory, but in practice it just established the near-lowest standard as the common denominator. It was damaging Russia’s standards – that is why they abandoned their involvement. Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 4:35 utc | 230

It was well understood in Russia that signing the Bologna Convention was pushed through legislation with the only goal – so that the shipskins that Russian wealthy and powerful have had bought for their kids would be freely accepted elsewhere in the world, where those said kids would want to emigrate. As the role of the of the Oligarh in Russia has diminished, and most of them indeed emigrated together with their kids, this decision was rolled back.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Oct 15 2025 4:57 utc | 228

Lord Bebo@MyLordBebo·1h🇺🇦 COUP WITH FAKED PASSPORT!
Zelensky’s henchmen faked a Russia passport of Odessa’s mayor to accuse him of Russia collaboration and kick him out.
-> The alleged Russian passport of Trukhanov, does not follow the Russian transliteration rules.
They transliterated the “X” as “H”, but according to transliteration rules to from Doc 9303 ICAO it should be “KH”
-> It should say truKHanov … it’s obviously fake.
Now Zelensky takes control of Odessa after this idiotic photoshop fake.

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1978333570369208794

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 15 2025 6:56 utc | 229

 General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 4:35 utc | 230
 
Thanks. They are certainly going to turn a lot more scientists engineers ect when when higher education is free.
Any idea of the hours per week in secondary school ? They obviously have a better education than those in the west by the time they are ready to enter higher education.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 15 2025 7:04 utc | 230

Re: Russian Citizenship ?
 
its (nearly) impossible for a Russian Citizen to give up his citizenship.  It’s a paperwork nightmare. 
https://notarius-nn.ru/en/drugoe/vyhod-iz-grazhdanstva-rf.html

Posted by: exile | Oct 15 2025 7:16 utc | 231

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 22:59 utc | 217
Grrr… will barflies please stop with this overblown Tomahawk hysteria?

 
The ‘thinking’ is: if we cann’t do X to weaken Russia, then let’s talk a lot about X to raise spirits, and the Russians think this is good, that the West is contented with just talking about X, so they pretend to take the talking about X very seriously.
 
Meanwhile, gradual (1) extermination of ukrop male population 25-60 and (2) conquest of ukrop land, resources, cities and reproductive females, continues with minimal costs to Russia.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 15 2025 7:33 utc | 232

 
Hydrofoil Plane on the Volga River – new Meteor ship. A Weekend journey from Moscow
https://youtu.be/j754ArKaLmA
Just a lovely video about a boat ride on the Volga.
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 15 2025 8:13 utc | 233

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 15 2025 7:33 utc | 235
 
In the escalation ladder US pattern has been to talk about a weapon system, test the waters and send them. They have sent all they talked about. It is a different matter that it hasn’t helped Ukraine at all, rather accelerated their destruction. 
 
So no reason to doubt it will be different this time.

Posted by: Michael J | Oct 15 2025 8:28 utc | 234

EU spokesperson says Russia must pay for reconstruction of Ukraine – but when asked if Israel must pay for reconstruction of Gaza – she declines to answer that question.
 
Monitor𝕏 (@MonitorX99800) | nitter.poast.org

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 15 2025 9:22 utc | 235

Posted by: Michael J | Oct 15 2025 8:28 utc | 237
So no reason to doubt it will be different this time.

 
There are actually solid reasons to determine this is just talking about something that cann’t be done, as pointed out by Jeremy (#217) and others. So as consolation, the talking continues.
Meanwhile, gradual (1) extermination of ukrop male population 25-60 and (2) conquest of ukrop land, resources, cities and reproductive females, continues with minimal costs to Russia.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 15 2025 9:45 utc | 236

As the role of the of the Oligarh in Russia has diminished, and most of them indeed emigrated together with their kids, this decision was rolled back.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Oct 15 2025 4:57 utc | 231
 
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Thanks Poslan – inside information is very helpful for understanding the ‘why’, rather than trying to work out motivation from simply observing the ‘what’.
 
I’d be interested whether you can provide any first-hand info on Peter’s question regarding primary and secondary education in Russia?
 

Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 10:16 utc | 237

There are widespread reports about EU arms aid to Ukraine suffering severe disruptions.. That means AFU will be buckling and struggling more everywhere. I think we are seeing the collapse of Gulyapole and Pokrovsk soon, opening the road to Pavlograd, and causing the isolation of Zaporozhye against the river.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2025 10:20 utc | 238

allegedly Ukraine will
use long range Tomahawk missiles to destroy a vast Russian drone manufacturing plant employing tens of thousands of North Korean slave labourers.
This claim on Vladimir Putin‘s notorious factory of death has come from leading retired four star general Jack Keane.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 15 2025 10:28 utc | 239

I’d be interested whether you can provide any first-hand info on Peter’s question regarding primary and secondary education in Russia?
Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 10:16 utc | 240

Posted by: Poslan1 | Oct 15 2025 10:30 utc | 240

I graduated in 1985, my daughter in 2007, so all the first-hand experience is outdated.
Everything else I see in the news, unfortunately, is not really good. The main problem is that Russian education system is still bound by the liberal concept of “no child should be left behind”, that means that even the dumbest and laziest kids should be dragged through the classes for at least 9 years.
The other problem is that every kid now brings his mobile to school and if he does not want to study, he can provoke any teach endlessly and when the teach loses it finally, the kid tapes it. So the principal would see not the hundred unsuccessful attempts to provoke the teach, but the final successful one and act accordingly. Problem.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Oct 15 2025 10:31 utc | 241

Also, I mentioned ‘rot’ in Australian universities. Patroklos may endorse this observation. There is corruption in all three areas: education, finance, and management. ‘Soft marking’ for international students (they are cash cows for the education business model) so you can’t fail them. Some students from some countries under some programs ‘will succeed’ – not because they are bright or work hard, but because it is ‘politically unacceptable for them to fail.’ They know this, so it makes them even lazier.
Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 15 2025 4:35 utc | 230

That does seem to be the way its going … if any mid level academic tries to get strict on the marking, the students complain one level up and they get whatever extra marks they need.
 
There’s no room for a stiff reformer to climb the ranks to the top levels because this would spoil the funding model and anyway such a person quickly gets accused of elitism or discrimination or privilege needs checking … which is a laugh when the university itself trades on the mystique of maintaining a top-notch educated class.
 

The future looks bleak (in Australia and the west generally) from where I sit.

Always difficult making cross-generational value judgements … if you want to make the correct but rather weak statement that the future will be different to the past, and what cannot continue won’t continue … then fine.
 
However, the stronger statement, that the future will be measurably worse than the past is unproven IMHO. It may not even be a meaningful statement at the best of times. We don’t know how much of the future is inevitable vs how much is a choice; we never get the chance to repeat the experiment nor compare the test outcome against a suitable control. Worse still … any changes usually help some people whilst harming others … there isn’t even a reliable universally applicable standard for national development … although various things have been estimated.
 
Getting back to university … this institution remains largely unchanged for centuries … a man stands at a podium and lectures to a crowd. OK, they have adopted a little technology here and there … once that man would have had a blackboard, now probably a laptop and projector. But why is the man there at all? A simple recording would be just as good, probably better when you consider that a recording will have better production value, etc.
 
Why are students in a hall? They could listen to the same lecture on the bus, or at the gym, or in the garden.
 
Come to think of it … why are there any University buildings? Online everything is much more efficient. We already have vast amounts of excellent educational material available for free, and even more if you pay just a little bit.
 
Most of the tertiary education system simply exists by repeating what it was doing before … it runs on inertia. It’s supposed to be the generator of new ideas but it won’t adopt new methodologies … so inevitably it must end up going the way of the parlour musician (now replaced by a headset and a streaming service) or the buggy-whip makers (now irrelevant in a world of automobiles). No one has more to lose in the coming AI rollout than our current academics … and that’s not only largely unavoidable, it’s probably for the better.
 
AI will be able to make every exam question for every student a completely unique problem, impossible to copy from the guy next door … and it can mark the exam in minutes, not days. Sure a human would need to set something like that up, but only once.
 
This process has already been happening … I doubt it will be reversed.

Posted by: Tel | Oct 15 2025 10:41 utc | 242

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 15 2025 9:45 utc | 239

There are actually solid reasons to determine this is just talking about something that cann’t be done, as pointed out by Jeremy (#217) and others. So as consolation, the talking continues. Meanwhile, gradual (1) extermination of ukrop male population 25-60 and (2) conquest of ukrop land, resources, cities and reproductive females, continues with minimal costs to Russia.

Could you cite those solid reasons? Why couldn’t 3rd countries with ground launchers send them off to Ukraine as was done with other heavy weaponry?

Posted by: robin | Oct 15 2025 10:49 utc | 243

Nato is
 
weighing up sweeping new air combat rules that could make it far easier for its pilots to shoot down Russian fighter jets amid rising tensions with Moscow.
Defence chiefs are in talks over a single, unified rulebook for engaging enemy aircraft in a move that could allow Russian warplanes carrying ground-offensive attack missiles over allied territory to be treated as legitimate targets. Depends in tyle of sircraft its armoury and trajectory.
The proposals are expected to be discussed by defence ministers at a NATO meeting in Brussels on Wednesday, as European allies grow increasingly concerned about aggressive Russia flights and drone incursions near their borders.
NATO leaders – including Donald Trump – have voiced support for taking tougher action against Russia aircraft violating alliance airspace.
However, several member states remain wary that such a move could risk direct confrontation with the Kremlin.
 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 15 2025 10:50 utc | 244

BellingCrap is saying the SBU presented ‘Russian passport’ of Odessa is fake. The rats are eating each other.
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1978386663702241378

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2025 10:50 utc | 245

The rhetoric in the West has reached a sort of bravado saturation. No one can tell whether what they say is real threats, or empty talk. Can often lead to underestimation of real situation, if you hear too many wolves crying.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 15 2025 11:01 utc | 246

However, the stronger statement, that the future will be measurably worse than the past is unproven IMHO.
Tel | Oct 15 2025 10:41 utc | 245
 
The countries putting out a good number of stem graduates per capita are doing fine and will continue to do fine. they are and will be the leaders in technology. Well educated stem graduates. That is absolutely critical for any country.
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 15 2025 11:10 utc | 247

@ Jo | Oct 15 2025 10:50 utc | 247
 
I find this news puzzling. Are we talking about engaging Russian aircrafts over EU and NATO airspace, or are we talking about targeting flights over other “allied” territory?
 
If it’s the former, I don’t see this as much of a development inasmuch as Russia has always rejected Western accusations of overflights.

Posted by: robin | Oct 15 2025 11:23 utc | 248

I agree the concept of a University is well passes its use by date.  My suggestion
Nationally and internationally there are examinations in Mathematics, Medicine, the sciences and probably languages, accounting and economics. They have standards say 1-30 . How a student reaches those standards can be managed by governments, but the student can take it at a moderate fee. The student can learn on the internet, textbook or occasionally via lectures.
There is a regular say quarterly examination and students with specific ID get a grade. Now this ONLY deals with the theoretical learning, and would need to be supplemented by practical workshops, on the job training or whatever to fill in the essential skills learning.
Now at some point – probably only at the higher levels, the written examinations would need to be followed by oral exams, because the risk of cheating is huge.
Of course this will not work at all for traditional university subjects – philosophy and history etc,. There may be a place here for traditional university like teaching, but while submission of essays would be demanded, a return to old style hand written exams would be required and  every student would need to pass an oral exam. The alternative would be that most students would just submit AI pulp. 
 

Posted by: watcher | Oct 15 2025 11:23 utc | 249

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/hegseth-urges-allies-boost-spending-us-weapons-kyiv-2025-10-15/ 
If only Pete had stop drinking, he would have known how to read the “delivery date” on an order form. Unfortunately, he’s just a used-weapons salesman at this point ^^ (Look at that Humvee : low mileage (only 600K) , not a scratch, not a dent , works perfectly fine … it just smoke a bit on cold startup ^^.)
 
I wonder if any EU “leader” will be able to resist such an appetizing bait ?

Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 15 2025 11:28 utc | 250

Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 15 2025 11:28 utc | 253

Ha-ha, Nato brings to mind an auction held by Harry’s Automobiles For Suckers Inc. Low-cost and high quality Detroit steel Ford Pinto for sale.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2025 11:46 utc | 251

A 1,000 Neo-Nazi troops have surrendered trapped in the city.
 
 
“A key Ukrainian city is about to be liberated. Kupyansk is a highly strategic city that Ukraine has defended for two years. But the Russian army seems to have won.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 15 2025 11:59 utc | 252

Posted by: Jo | Oct 15 2025 10:28 utc | 242
That has to be the most idiotic thing I’ve heard this week.
Great opsec … because, you know, every military school teaches that you leak the plans of your attack target months in advance … I bet the Brits and Yanks told Hitler back in 1944, we’re coming, and it’s gonna be Omaha Beach!  /s
 
Clearly this buffoon is posturing.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 15 2025 12:17 utc | 253

I agree the concept of a University is well passes its use by date.  
 
Posted by: watcher | Oct 15 2025 11:23 utc | 252
 

 
Let’s have doctors learn on wage slaves forced to sell their organs.  Once medical students have taken enough kidneys out they can sell what they learned by attempting to put them back in.
 
No refunds.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 15 2025 12:31 utc | 254

It seems that some innocent and peaceful natzio warriors special forces are doomed to accidentally demise in the latest ‘games’ on the RF borders …
 
Such a shame they couldn’t just play soldiers virtually and online where at least their remains could be recovered and given a funeral and their pensions and medals be given to their families who probably haven’t seen them for months already …
 
 

@dana916
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Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 15 2025 12:40 utc | 255

Putin meeting with Jolani. As always spoke as the diplomat, but body language completely different. Fidgeting around, didn’t look at him a lot. I think Putin would have rather had someone take him out the back and shoot him.
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1978426165615272310

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 15 2025 12:41 utc | 256

@ Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 15 2025 12:17 utc | 256
”… I bet the Brits and Yanks told Hitler back in 1944, we’re coming, and it’s gonna be Omaha Beach!  /s “
 
No /s required – much truth in jest is found. 
 
Of course the Zio-owned Yank and Brits told the zio-owned Nazis of the plans for invasion and how many troops they wanted to die in a show for Stalin. 
 
Why do you suppose Romm went awol on DDay?
What do you suppose the Bletchley crew with their secret communication machines were doing daily? why indeed was Hess in Britain for supposedly the entirety of the War and why did the Russians insist on his lifetime imprisonment in Berlin under their guard? 
 
 
WW2 was a subterfuge from start to finish to distract and destroy Stalins ussr and Chinas re- rising by the Old Bastard ZioFascists in their never ending Great Game of World Domination. 
 
in a generatio. The Real History of The Waste will be known throughout the world and they will all wonder how the hell our generqtions were so dumb not to know it! 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 15 2025 12:55 utc | 257

Canada cancels $150-250M program to donate 25 LAV armored carriers to Ukraine. But the money was already spent on… white powder..?
 
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1978433703723331624

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2025 13:05 utc | 258

“A 1,000 Neo-Nazi troops have surrendered trapped in the city.”
 
Re my above comment – which is part of my (255) comment – it reminds of the capture of WWII Nazi’s in Stalingrad – only a good  bit less.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 15 2025 13:19 utc | 259

🇺🇦Get ready for the new Ukraine: the country needs 10 million migrants– “After the war ends, we will need to bring in about 10 million labor migrants,” says Zelensky’s office advisor Milovanov.
If that’s the case then the best outcome for Ukraine is full Russian take over. It probably won’t come to that because millions of Ukrainian ‘refugees’ will return after the war with all the booty from milking every available handout scheme in the West whilst working cash in hand.
 

Posted by: Truthsayer | Oct 15 2025 13:34 utc | 260

Jo 239 – General Keane is a neo con deep state operative and the star military analyst on Fox News, also the chief “consultant” in the 1995 massacre by the Croatans of the Serb population in the Krajina during operation “Storm”.
Yet another CIA stooge boy for the deep state WEF agenda……..start a nuclear war with RF since the NATO war is now in a rapid state of collapse…………

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 15 2025 13:35 utc | 261

Peter AU1@256……come on, seriously, Putin can’t even handle Tiny Dancer, who dances rings around him daily……and then he meets with Joboba the Faux of Syria, talk about dumb move, funny though, I expect Joboba was signing off on his share of Putin’s Tiki Bar at Trump Plaza Gaza…….
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 15 2025 14:56 utc | 262

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2025 13:05 utc | 258
 
Canada is fucked economically, culturally, politically  and morally..

Posted by: canuk | Oct 15 2025 15:48 utc | 263

Putin has degenerated into a new Gorbachev; this is not just Peskov’s nonsense.While Medvedev or Zakharova take the rap for Putin’s fckups, he continues to lick Trump’s shoes and raise taxes. Call me a fatalist, but I think Putin has become too pathetic and weak for politics.

Posted by: Pazific V | Oct 15 2025 15:52 utc | 264

“Canada is fucked economically, culturally, politically  and morally..”
 
As is much of the West.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 15 2025 15:54 utc | 265

 Peter AU1 (256).
 
Don’t be fooled by Putin – he wanted Russia to join Nato – but they refused to allow Russia in, they needed a bogeyman – Putin and Blair, quaffed Quails Eggs Lobster and Champagne at the Opera in St Petersburg whilst Chechnya burned – Blair was only interested in courting Putin to protect BP interests in the region, and that’s what’s happening in Syria – Putin wants to retain Russia’s military bases in Syria post-Assad, and doing a deal with the proscribed HTS headchopping boss – that the West loves as well – is part and parcel of the game, and it is a game – we back this one, and that one – but behind the scenes the big powers are still communicating – and doing their utmost not to go too far against each others interests. We the masses are the ones being duped.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 15 2025 15:59 utc | 266

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 14 2025 22:59 utc | 217Grrr… will barflies please stop with this overblown Tomahawk hysteria?
 

The reason some of us are trembling with fear is every single time Zelensky expresses wishes, they are first denied, then delivered. And it doesn’t even take long. We’re not that rational …

Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 15 2025 16:08 utc | 267

Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 15 2025 16:08 utc | 267
I agree completely. If there are 10 Tomahawks left, Ukraine will get 5 of them. They also still have plenty of nuclear technicians (maybe? They are pretty much out of people, so I may be wrong about this) capable of reverse engineering a warhead for this weapon. I’m betting that if Tomahawk gets a green light, we will see Oreshnik smashing any launchpads/storage facilities for them.

Posted by: Caveman | Oct 15 2025 16:13 utc | 268

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 15 2025 12:55 utc | 257
Can you prove any of that tin-foil hat twaddle? Seems that the more the world fails to align with the predictions of some posters the more some comments, like the above, drift into category of comically deranged. 

Posted by: Milites | Oct 15 2025 16:30 utc | 269

@ Posted by: Milites | Oct 15 2025 16:30 utc | 269
 
what, what ? A bark –  who ‘axed’ you to the party M? George on the other thread and you here!
 
It seems the stinky socks are revolting!
 
 
Form an orderly queue I’ll get stomping boots out of their cage. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 16 2025 6:42 utc | 270