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October 12, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-237
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Trump’s shenanigans must upset some Ukrainians. Playing dirty (like how is handling the trade war with China) is what got him into his current position. Then there’s this clear insider trading during the shit coin dip from Friday that got 1 mystery person with foreknowledge raking in 200 million in a couple of minutes with many shit coin holders losing big. Ukrainian Konstantin Galish “investing” dirty money (bribes, NATO handouts, …) of higher echelon Ukrainians thought it would be wiser to kill himself in his Lamborghini than to wait for a horrible death. Posted by: xor | Oct 12 2025 12:46 utc | 1 Ei, Ei, Ei… Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Oct 12 2025 13:04 utc | 2 Edit: Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Oct 12 2025 13:05 utc | 3 You know it is funny that even the most brainwashed start to ask what is going on…I wonder how much longer will the Jewish-Neoliberal Trojan horse will fool the Russians… Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Oct 12 2025 13:11 utc | 4 Trump’s shenanigans must upset some Ukrainians. Playing dirty Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 12 2025 13:47 utc | 5 Explosives factory in Tennessee.. exploded. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/10/us/hickman-county-explosion-tennessee Posted by: Tichy | Oct 12 2025 13:53 utc | 6 Orwellian quote of the day: Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 14:39 utc | 7 “You know it is funny that even the most brainwashed start to ask what is going on…I wonder how much longer will the Jewish-Neoliberal Trojan horse will fool the Russians…” Posted by: Thomas | Oct 12 2025 14:52 utc | 8 Ukraine hit Russian energy sites with US help screams the headlines from today’s Financial Times. Dig a little deeper and you can see the article is the typical British deep state pay-op ‘nudge’ over both the proposed Tomahawk missile deployment & framing the recent strikes on Russian energy infrastructure as a Trump backed escalatory shift in policy while simultaneously admitting “the US has not acknowledged a direct role in Ukraine’s strikes on Russian energy facilities.”
The article ends with (who else) Zelensky’s claim that Russia has lost 20 per cent of fuel production capacity & is reduced to importing petrol from Belarus and China. (How petroleum refining actually works between each country is something I’ll leave to more knowledgeable barflies). Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 12 2025 15:30 utc | 9 Been brooding. As ever (he’s not still on about that!) about the start of the SMO. But I don’t see why not. We know how the SMO’s going to end. We still don’t know exactly how or why it started. Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 12 2025 15:53 utc | 10 Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 12 2025 15:30 utc | 9
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 16:20 utc | 11
Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 12 2025 16:29 utc | 12 New revelation. EU paid a reward of $1000 to mercenaries who killed civilians during Kursk invasion. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 16:48 utc | 13 “Europeans are getting richer but their income and what’s left of their capital are going in the wrong direction.” Posted by: Asian Frog | Oct 12 2025 16:50 utc | 14 The Yanks giving the Russians a good reason to push hard to finally crush the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 16:56 utc | 15 The Europeans took…– English Outsider 10 Posted by: rk | Oct 12 2025 17:03 utc | 16 The full text of the malformed link posted by @rk | Oct 12 2025 17:03 utc | 16:
This was from two days ago, a brief excerpt from a lengthy press conference ; it is not clear what point @ rk is trying to make by referencing it. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 17:18 utc | 17 I’ve come to the conclusion that Kiev’s main objectives for destroying the Kahovka hydro dam were 1) to interfere with normal operation of the Zaporhizhia NPP by disrupting the cooling water supply and 2) to make the use of the re-opened north Crimean irrigation canal impossible and also to de-water a second irrigation canal that provided water to farmland in the Russian portion of Kherson and Zaporhizhia oblasts. I came across this video (turn english subtitles on): Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 12 2025 17:20 utc | 18 And the formatting is temperamental, I thought I’d gone through and manually inserted the necessary paragraph breaks. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 17:21 utc | 19 At 16 ,as usually you are drunk, again. There is no other explanation…. Posted by: voicu | Oct 12 2025 17:31 utc | 20 Nikolai Starikov says Trumps move bringing the Tomahawks is simply a way to bring NATOs infrastructure closer to the border of Russia. Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 12 2025 17:32 utc | 21 @English Outsider | Oct 12 2025 15:53 utc | 10 Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 12 2025 17:50 utc | 22
Exactly this. The plan has always been nuclear. GHW ‘Poppy’ Bush was a failed candidate for POTUS in 1980 – before Reagan was forced by David Rockefeller to take him as VP (shadow president). In large part this was due to a catastrophic LA Times interview in which Poppy said “We could win a nuclear war”. POTUS 47 is no different, he has been tasked with being superficially pacifist while continuing the preparation for the nuclear war to restore western supremacy. Posted by: Drifter | Oct 12 2025 18:07 utc | 23 Latest report says Gulyapole is now being cut-off. Gulyapole is a significant block removed from moving further toward Zaporozhye, and isolating it against the river. Also toward Pavlograd. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 18:13 utc | 24 Posted by: Drifter | Oct 12 2025 18:07 utc | 23 Posted by: Milites | Oct 12 2025 18:20 utc | 25 Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 12 2025 18:22 utc | 26
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 12 2025 17:32 utc | 21 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 18:36 utc | 27 And it all needs to be paid for, somehow:
https://politnavigator.news/deneg-dlya-ukrainy-net-mvf-i-mirovojj-bank-s-razmakhu-seli-v-luzhu.html (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 18:49 utc | 28 Have a look at that one: Posted by: Naive | Oct 12 2025 18:53 utc | 29 From the MoA Week in Review , we have an article on China’s recent counter move in its trade war with the U.S. KT Chong wrote a comment to that article. He began by quoting from the it: “As an extra fillip, China has also announced that all American ships must pay port fees. (This is symbolic, few ships are flagged American.)” Chong then continued with an excellent analysis of China’s motives for mandating American ships pay port fees, “This is not symbolic. This is long-term strategic thinking. The US wants to rebuilding [sic] its shipbuilding industry. By imposing port fees on US ships, China basically prematurely terminates any attempt of the US to rebuild its shipbuilding industry. Trump’s “Restoring America’s Maritime Dominance” Executive Order, SHIPS act, and MARAD initiative are basically DOA. That is brutal.” Posted by: Nobody Special | Oct 12 2025 18:54 utc | 30 A column of 25 vehicles + some 200 ukronazis were sent to Krasnoarmeisk. Posted by: Naive | Oct 12 2025 18:56 utc | 31 Situational overview from Marat Khairullin: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/an-overview-of-the-military-situation Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 19:05 utc | 32
Posted by: Nobody Special | Oct 12 2025 18:54 utc | 30 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 19:31 utc | 33 @Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 18:36 utc | 27 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 12 2025 19:32 utc | 34 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 19:05 utc | 32 Posted by: ChatNPC | Oct 12 2025 19:37 utc | 35
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 12 2025 19:32 utc | 34 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 19:59 utc | 36 Kiev regime starts covering up their massive money laundering network as collapse nears. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 20:05 utc | 37 — GEROMAN — time will tell – 👀 –@GeromanAT·5hAbout paid thugs and scum: Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2025 20:08 utc | 38 Well that came out nothing like the deformatted text I posted. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2025 20:19 utc | 39 For background, the historic Los Angeles Times interview of GHW Bush by Robert Scheer, published on January 24, 1980. For a moment, the veil was pulled back and much of the public was horrified to learn how the elite actually think. From that moment, Bush had no chance at winning enough GOP primaries to be the nominee. The public was not reassured that the elite in their bunkers and a “percentage of citizens” could survive. Even if the percentage of survivors was “more than” 5%.
Posted by: Drifter | Oct 12 2025 20:30 utc | 40 Chinese military transports shuttling back and forth to Moscow. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 20:33 utc | 41
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 20:33 utc | 41 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 20:50 utc | 42 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 20:50 utc | 42 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 12 2025 20:54 utc | 43 The encircled AFU troops in Kupyansk are reportedly getting smoked. RUAF now controls 75% of the city. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 21:02 utc | 44 @ malenkov | Oct 12 2025 20:54 utc | 43 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 21:03 utc | 45 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 19:05 utc | 32 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2025 20:08 utc | 38 Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 12 2025 21:12 utc | 47 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 18:36 utc | 27 Posted by: robjira | Oct 12 2025 22:35 utc | 48 Scott Ritter on Dialogue Works. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 12 2025 22:39 utc | 49 English Outsider | Oct 12 2025 21:12 utc | 47 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2025 22:44 utc | 50 Link to the million dollar man article in the Guardian. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 12 2025 22:51 utc | 51 Translated from Chinese media. Good news. No one survived explosion at a US explosive plant China News Service October 12, 2025, 12:29 PM 12 people On October 11 local time, police in Humphreys County, Tennessee, said “no survivors have been found” in an explosion at a local military explosive plant that killed 16 people, AP reported.Photo credit: AP video report screenshotThe cause of the explosion was reportedly unclear. The investigation is ongoing.The explosion was previously reported at around 7: 45 local time on the 10th at the plant located on the border between Humphreys County and Hickman County in Tennessee, about 100 kilometers from the state capital, Nashville. The plant is part of a company called American Precision Energy Systems. The company manufactures a variety of high explosives and specialty products for the U.S. Department of Defense and the U. S. industrial market.Local media television footage showed thick plumes of smoke at the scene of the explosion and debris of cars strewn around it. People living a few kilometres from the site of the blast said they could feel tremors when the explosion occurred.”No one survived” explosion at an explosives factory in Tennessee killed 16 people》 Posted by: Surferket | Oct 12 2025 22:52 utc | 52 Daniel Davis and Douglas Macgregor. “Trump and Europe playing with fire.” Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 12 2025 23:50 utc | 53 Nowhere else to report this today but it is very important since it also involves US and Russia. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 12 2025 23:57 utc | 54 “Nobel Peace Prize winner supports Israel’s genocide & Trump’s war on Venezuela” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 13 2025 0:18 utc | 55 Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 12 2025 23:50 utc | 53 Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 13 2025 0:32 utc | 56 An article in Reuters Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2025 0:43 utc | 57 English Outsider | Oct 13 2025 0:32 utc | 56 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2025 0:47 utc | 58 “Trumps talk of Tomahawks is likely nothing more than a bone to placate the neo-cons.” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 13 2025 1:14 utc | 59 Apparently a regime change of the type that mimics the Bolshevik revolution is in progress in Madagascar.. Posted by: snake | Oct 13 2025 1:40 utc | 60 Posted by: snake | Oct 13 2025 1:40 utc | 60 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 13 2025 1:58 utc | 61 Posted by: Milites | Oct 12 2025 18:20 utc | 25
I agree with everything you write, especially “Merkel = functionary”, this holds for almost all politicians, more now than ever. I don’t agree with the marked sentence: Merkel was to some extent a tool of German industry capital. She expended much of her political capital on the Northstream pipelines, against the expressed wish of empire central at Washington. This stopped with her successors Scholz and Merz who no longer even try to support German industry capital. The country is broken IMO. Posted by: Konami | Oct 13 2025 2:31 utc | 63 Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 12 2025 23:50 utc | 53 Posted by: Milites | Oct 13 2025 2:57 utc | 64 Posted by: Milites | Oct 13 2025 2:57 utc | 64 Merkel was to some extent a tool of German industry capital. She expended much of her political capital on the Northstream pipelines, against the expressed wish of empire central at Washington. This stopped with her successors Scholz and Merz who no longer even try to support German industry capital. The country is broken IMO. Posted by: Nobody | Oct 13 2025 3:25 utc | 66 GeorgeWendell | Oct 13 2025 1:14 utc | 59 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 13 2025 3:39 utc | 67 Was watching a Chinese academic re whether the US dog wags the Israel tail or vice versa. He commented there is plenty of evidence to support either view, but gathered he went more with the US Zionists calling the shots. Perhaps the US establishment tolerates or encourages AIPAC as it simply feeds people from both political parties into its Middle East war support. His fear was more about religious fanatics pushing for the end of times scenario. Posted by: Organic | Oct 13 2025 3:53 utc | 68 On the subject of Merkel and herjust being a functionary: Posted by: Hamburger | Oct 13 2025 7:23 utc | 69 O/T: has anyone heard an update from Dr. Rob Campbell aka “The Busker”? Hope he’s doing OK. Posted by: The Busker | Oct 13 2025 7:43 utc | 70 Peter Thiel: ‘I defer to Israel’ Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 13 2025 8:37 utc | 71
Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 13 2025 8:42 utc | 72
Thank you so much and wish you a thorough recovery Mr Busker! Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 13 2025 8:54 utc | 73 It is possible in a Ukrainian family of four children to have Javelin and Javelina as the older siblings of newborns Tomahawk and Flamingo. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 13 2025 9:18 utc | 74 Posted by: The Busker | Oct 13 2025 7:43 utc | 70 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 13 2025 9:27 utc | 75 Haven’t watched Military Summary today, but the headline states Tomahawks are exchanged for ‘full mobilization in Ukraine’. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 13 2025 9:32 utc | 76 @76 Posted by: Stark | Oct 13 2025 9:46 utc | 77 Posted by: Stark | Oct 13 2025 9:46 utc | 77 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 13 2025 10:02 utc | 78 Posted by: The Busker | Oct 13 2025 7:43 utc | 70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBrwF9cn6A0 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 13 2025 10:23 utc | 80 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 13 2025 10:23 utc | 80 Zelensky’s narrative is Russia is weak and afraid and Ukraine can win if they just show Ukrainians the use of Tomahawks. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 13 2025 10:27 utc | 81 I’m still not 100% but I’ve started working – that’s why I’m reading the MoA: Busker’s Blues – by Dr. Rob Campbell – The Busker Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 13 2025 10:51 utc | 82 When you say and do Cnuty things it makes you a card carrying stinky poisonous one – the only cure is a cnutcull. Humanity needs to be cleansed of such poison. Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 13 2025 11:12 utc | 83 Well what do you know! Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 13 2025 11:15 utc | 84 GeorgeWendell@78…… Zielinski is still alive? Hmm…….interesting. He has such poise, such control……he must really scare the bejesus out of Russia….tap the fucking twat already…….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 13 2025 12:07 utc | 85 Funny how unrepentant world leaders die here there and everywhere, planes, helicopters, cars, buses…….shit even Uber crashes……and Zielinski, he got his finger up Putin’s s bum, has the strut of the stage….Europe has never seen an unelected politician with such great power, can drag super powers around by the nose ….I think I might be understanding the soft spot the Russians have for the Green Tee….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 13 2025 12:15 utc | 86 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 13 2025 9:32 utc | 76 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 13 2025 12:29 utc | 87 snake | Oct 13 2025 1:40 utc | 60 Posted by: Cynic | Oct 13 2025 12:30 utc | 88 Michael J // 65 Posted by: Nobody Special | Oct 13 2025 12:41 utc | 89 If Nato starts article 5 proceedings, it would need to be public. I doubt Russia would be waiting around to see the end of that proceeding before nuking Europe to oblivion. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 13 2025 12:50 utc | 90 Tomahawks and their launchers are hard to hide. Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Oct 13 2025 13:03 utc | 91 The depopulation of the Russian population in 404 is accelerating… Who will inhabit this beautiful empty space, full of raw materials, in the future? Questions upon questions… It would be a fantastic question to pose to the Jewish-neoliberal Trojan horse on one of these idiotic “forums”… For example, the forum of the United Russian Proctologists. Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Oct 13 2025 13:04 utc | 92 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 13 2025 12:15 utc | 86 Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 13 2025 13:21 utc | 93 Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 13 2025 13:21 utc | 93 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 13 2025 13:27 utc | 94 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 13 2025 10:23 utc | 80 ““We must not allow Putin to break our resistance before winter.” – shelenskiyv Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 13 2025 13:32 utc | 96 NATO Article 5 = NATO war with RussiaThe Russian government has stated NATO is at war with Russia Why do you think Russia is afraid of starting a war with NATO if they are already at war with NATO? Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 13 2025 13:21 utc | 93 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 13 2025 13:41 utc | 98 Comment(s) Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 13 2025 13:43 utc | 99 Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 13 2025 13:43 utc | 99 Posted by: Caveman | Oct 13 2025 14:08 utc | 100 |
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