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October 9, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-234

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Gold and Silver rates could be pointing to expectation of global conflict escalation. Feel Tomahawks attacks on Moscow could be the trigger.

Posted by: Michael J | Oct 9 2025 14:29 utc | 1

Posted by: Michael J | Oct 9 2025 14:29 utc | 2
 
“Tomahawk Theater” was thoroughly debunked by Mike Mihajlovic over at Black Mountain Analysis, along with some regulars around here.  Not happening, it’s another bluff from the Orange Idiot holding junk cards and acting like he has a royal flush.
 
That’s not to say Zelensky/UK won’t try some other attack vector.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 14:34 utc | 2

That’s not to say Zelensky/UK won’t try some other attack vector.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 14:34 utc | 3
 
Yes. Anything to trigger it.

Posted by: Michael J | Oct 9 2025 14:44 utc | 3

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 14:34 utc | 3
According to RT, the EU says it’s a-okay to shoot down Russian planes in their airspace. I have a feeling I know what that attack vector may just be…

Posted by: Caveman | Oct 9 2025 15:17 utc | 4

Marat Khairullin discusses the true state of the Russian oil industry: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/smart-gas-station-or-how-russia-became
 
No queues, no shortages, just a nimble, adaptable and innovative industry.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 15:30 utc | 5

Posted by: Candide | Oct 9 2025 14:16 utc |
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Would he do that I would vote for him getting this Nobel prize…

Posted by: scc | Oct 9 2025 15:35 utc | 6

Ok so….we have all been following the escalation/provocation follies. It’s clear that the EUrocrats have gotten high on their own propaganda supply and are now deep into the “magical thinking realm as far as what their capabilities are in case or REAL escalation. 
What its seems like is that that Banksters and their ilk are trying to enact a controlled demolition and trigger a fashion a reset of sorts. The trouble is that the world is an increasingly small place and nobody is truly out of range anymore. Tomahawks getting aimed at Moscow? The fact that they could be nukes, and they are USA property present a very real problem. RF has already stated that they will target the command and control centers if needed. Everyone knows that the US/NATO are trying to dismember the RF, so presumably at some point the gauntlet will be thrown down and all bets will be off….
Then the ROW will take side and things will heat up quickly. 

Posted by: Chevrus | Oct 9 2025 15:41 utc | 7

The euro  political sewage life want a  war. That being the case  it’s important that the Russians make them  feel the consequences.

Posted by: jpc | Oct 9 2025 15:44 utc | 8

Our friend indi.ca is exceptionally sharp about the situation in Ukraine:
 
https://indi.ca/ukraine-is-so-shady-part-1/

Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 9 2025 15:55 utc | 9

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 14:34 utc | 3
Borzzikman mentions that “other vector” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQMJ0-DWryA
 

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Oct 9 2025 15:58 utc | 10

In support of my widely criticized remarks [see below @75/132] yesterday:
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A National Guard brigade from Galicia was transferred to Sumy to organize barrier detachments
https://en.topwar.ru/272097-brigadu-nacgvardii-iz-galicii-perekinuli-pod-sumy-dlja-organizacii-zagradotrjadov.html
….the enemy has redeployed the 2nd Galician Separate Brigade of the National Guard…to the Sumy sector…not to participate in assaults on Russian positions…The brigade’s units will be deployed in the second echelon, forming barrier detachments…to prevent escape from positions…using the National Guard as barrier detachments is common practice for the Ukrainian Armed Forces
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@75
 
As my father said; “…you can always find a Nazi, they’re in the rear, the more ardent the Nazi, the further in rear they are
 
While cheerleaders here have been waving their pom-poms in support of the wholesale slaughter of conscripts, [who are either largely ethno/cultural-Russ/Magyar/Slovaks or, those stuck in ex-ukrainia that oppose Waffen SS rule and have good looking wives/girlfriends/properties worth taking], I have been quite unsettled by the carnage.  Further, to the jeers of the fans, I have encouraged the Russian High Command to come up with strategies that attack Galicia’s modern day Waffen SS troops who are driving this war onward, not the neutral or pro-Russian conscripts who want nothing to do with this war.  In this matter, I have sorely disappointed but, finally a glimmer of hope.
 
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@132
 
The notion that the people of ex-ukrainia can “rise-up” and defeat the aligned forces of the US/Europe and the modern day Waffen SS of Galicia is bullshit.  They tried, they were slaughtered…by the tens of thousands, they failed.  There is no historical precedent for a “revolution” under a ruthless military dictatorship at war…at least not one that is supported by all the wealthy countries of the world.  The Japanese did not overthrow the military dictatorship of WWII, nor the Germans, nor the Norwegians…  Outside forces did the heavy lifting, then, and only then did the people reorganized the government.  And today, the level of surveillance initiated by globalist after 9/11 makes the Stasi look like a bunch of Transgender-Girl-Scouts*.  Overthrowing a government that has 24/7/365 surveillance at their disposal is utter nonsense.
 
blame the victim“…often expressed as “you get the government you deserve” and it’s unadulterated crap.  Russia has a competent government today because, some well meaning higher-ups in the KGB conspired and then conjured it into being, not because the people rose up and demanded it.  Let’s get that straight, stop prescribing unrealistic bull$h!t for people, other than yourself

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 16:05 utc | 11

‘“Tomahawk Theater” was thoroughly debunked by Mike Mihajlovic over at Black Mountain Analysis, along with some regulars around here.  Not happening, it’s another bluff from the Orange Idiot holding junk cards and acting like he has a royal flush. That’s not to say Zelensky/UK won’t try some other attack vector.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 14:34 utc | 3
Thanks for the reading suggestion, interesting article, others can read it here:https://substack.com/home/post/p-175229832he does make a very convincing case that the Tomahawks won’t (can’t) be deployed in Ukraine

Posted by: Observer | Oct 9 2025 16:40 utc | 12

‘Further, to the jeers of the fans, I have encouraged the Russian High Command to come up with strategies that attack Galicia’s modern day Waffen SS troops who are driving this war onward, not the neutral or pro-Russian conscripts who want nothing to do with this war.  In this matter, I have sorely disappointed but, finally a glimmer of hope.Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 16:05 utc | 12
 
Yes, you’d think the Russian would concentrate their weaponry on the barrier troops; though as they’re to rear of the frontline, that’s probably less easy

Posted by: Observer | Oct 9 2025 16:49 utc | 13

According to RT, the EU says it’s a-okay to shoot down Russian planes in their airspace. I have a feeling I know what that attack vector may just be…
Posted by: Caveman | Oct 9 2025 15:17 utc | 5

MS. Kallas appears absolutely ignorant what kind of hurt Turkey had to suck up after that ( egged on from US generals ) shootdown of a Russian plane.

Posted by: MAKK | Oct 9 2025 16:51 utc | 14

Posted by: Observer | Oct 9 2025 16:40 utc | 13
 
You’re welcome … in today’s episode of “Tomahawk Theater”, the Orange Imbecile, fresh off his Nobel Peace Prize-winning effort in Gaza, tries to bluff Putin with an offsuit 7-2 poker hand, while Comrade Ursula passes non-binding resolutions with no legal effect, urging the Chihauhaus to please shoot down a Russian jet.  
 
Vlad isn’t having any of it, knowing that he’s got a straight flush, and Chihauhaus bark but don’t bite.  

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 16:56 utc | 15

Ok, so lets see what the empire currently thinks. From ‘Business Insider’:
 

  • Detailed Summary:
    • Ukraine’s escalating campaign of deep-strike attacks against Russian oil refineries and energy facilities is yielding significant results, according to Ukrainian officials.
    • President Zelenskyy stated that Russia is experiencing a fuel shortage, with gasoline availability down by approximately 20%, and has begun drawing from diesel reserves.
    • A Ukrainian security source indicated that nearly 40% of Russia’s refinery capacity is now “idle” due to these attacks, impacting its ability to fund the war.
    • Ukraine is primarily using domestically produced missiles and drones for these strikes, having invested heavily in its own weapons manufacturing capabilities to overcome reliance on Western supplies and restrictions.
    • The Russian oil and gas sector is a vital source of income for the Kremlin, contributing approximately 20% to Russia’s GDP on average, making it a key target for Ukraine.
    • Since August, there have been at least 24 documented attacks on Russian oil refineries, demonstrating Ukraine’s growing capability to strike high-value targets deep within Russian territory, over 800 miles away in some instances.
    • These strikes are seen as a strategic advantage for Ukraine, weakening Russia’s war machine and preventing the conflict from being fought solely on Ukrainian soil, especially amidst static front lines.
    • While Russia also conducts deep strikes against Ukrainian energy infrastructure and civilian areas, the impact on Ukraine’s ability to generate national income is not comparable to the effect of Ukrainian strikes on Russian energy revenue.

The empire (based on narco-Fuhrer estimates, itself a red flag) thinks 40% of Russian refining is down,  gasoline availability down 20% and Russian ‘war machine is in tatters’ (now where and from whom did I hear that before, hmm?).
 
Meanwhile (as per Marat’s post) indicates through videos from Russia, there are no shortages of fuels, there are 32 major and 80 minor refineries with a total capacity of 370 million tons per year, Russia has mechanisms to reduce export of fuel while reducing tax on companies as compensation. The market is developing new sort of refinery solutions (smaller refinery units) while protections against drones with large metal fences and cages (drones can’t penetrate a thick enough web, and they are ‘dumb drones’).
 
All of that ‘gasoline finished, tapping into diesel reserves’ seems to be just another wishy washy thinking.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 9 2025 17:01 utc | 16

All of that ‘gasoline finished, tapping into diesel reserves’ seems to be just another wishy washy thinking.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 9 2025 17:01 utc | 17
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Translates into ‘Please, bring us more money.’

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 9 2025 17:27 utc | 17

DJT will never allow Tomahawk attacks on Moscow, and the Ukronazis will get their Tomahawks when hell freezes over…..this is more Volo clap trapping while his eastern front disintegrates by the hour……..
Measure Volo life expectancy in days not weeks….

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 9 2025 17:36 utc | 18

No16…. Shhh. The normies aren’t ready for the truth in the West.
This propaganda is designed to make the plebs think Russia is losing and a few more billion dollars to the Kiev regime is okay. 

Posted by: Truthsayer | Oct 9 2025 17:41 utc | 19

ELECTRIC WAR ON THE UKRAINE BATTLEFIELD IS TURNING THE LIGHTS ON IN THE KREMLIN
https://johnhelmer.org/electric-war-on-the-ukraine-battlefield-is-turning-the-lights-on-in-the-kremlin/#more-72085
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I know many here are dismissive of  John Helmer but then again, many here are dismissive of anybody who does not share the entirety of their particular world view even when the dismissed person is saying something the dismissive commenter agrees with.  It’s part & parcel with high-school-kool stuff, many here had it dished to them and like so many before them, the now seek to dish. 
 
But back to John Helmer’s post; whatever the dismissive commenter may say, if he is correct in this dispatch, he put’s out some interesting information in this dispatch.  I found a couple of lines of great interest.
1] Putin once again reiterates his lack of interest and reason for Russia not gaining more territory.  The ashcan of history is full of empires that overextended themselves.  It is sound reasoning but, poor negotiating/military strategy as it tells your opposite number he has nothing to fear by going up the escalation ladder.  This quiet confidence European leaders have, in spite their rhetoric to the contrary ,needs to be removed…in it’s entirely, they must live in fear.  The Soviets made European leaders fear for their lives and they performed much better as a result, internally and externally.  There is no reason why Putin can not incorporate the Russian regions of ex-ukrainia into Russia, the Black Sea Coast to Transnistria and environs and to the Dnieper in the North.  Let the Dnieper & Dniester form natural barriers.  If the Rump state of ex-ukraina, which is sure to be dominated by the modern day Waffen SS, plays nice, then they can export the crops from Blackrock lands through the Dnieper, if not, then nyet.  Let the Galicians, feel the whip at both ends, it’s their past and it seems they like it…as they, with their own hands, made it their future.
 
2] The slow escalation of Russia has been driven, as many here suspected, by Putin himself.  The Russian military would have gone much sooner and further up the escalation ladder.  Such sentiments are in agreement with mine, though I think of Putin as one of the greatest leaders in 500 years, perhaps more.  But to balance my agreement with the General Staff on military matters I pity Russians should Russia’s military reassert itself as the preeminent power in  Russian society.  Why?  Briefly, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. 
 
The hidden powers in the “west” that have brought us to this point; where a great man might be pushed aside, as Gorbachov was, by the Russian military will rue the day they let Satan talk them into this Faustian bargain.  A far better bargain would have been made with Russia rather than siding with Satan against it.  There is still time but, the day grows short, the lilliputian minds of western “leaders” have idle hands that the devil seeks to fill.  Russia/Putin must feared before they will be respected.  Winning a war is very different than imposing a peace, Russia, more so than any country, should know the consequence of confusing the two outcomes.
https://johnhelmer.org/electric-war-on-the-ukraine-battlefield-is-turning-the-lights-on-in-the-kremlin/#more-72085

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 17:41 utc | 20

Posted by: Observer | Oct 9 2025 16:40 utc | 13
Very good read! Recommended for everyone who needs a good sleep.
 

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 9 2025 17:42 utc | 21

I meant number 17… too much booze. Apologies to barflies.

Posted by: Truthsayer | Oct 9 2025 17:42 utc | 22

DJT will never allow Tomahawk attacks on Moscow, and the Ukronazis will get their Tomahawks when hell freezes over…..this is more Volo clap trapping while his eastern front disintegrates by the hour……..
Measure Volo’s life expectancy in days not weeks….

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 9 2025 17:43 utc | 23

Posted by: MAKK | Oct 9 2025 16:51 utc | 15
Embarrassed to say, but I cannot remember what happened between Russia and Turkey after that jet was shot down myself, even though I have exactly zero power. A Google search about it brings up info I don’t necessarily trust. You wouldn’t happen to have a link to a solid story about it, would you? It would be much appreciated. Thanks for your reply. I do agree that these MEPs do not understand what they are doing. They are drunk on their own propaganda and seem to be true believers, the scariest ones.

Posted by: Caveman | Oct 9 2025 17:44 utc | 24

“blame the victim“…often expressed as “you get the government you deserve” and it’s unadulterated crap. Russia has a competent government today because, some well meaning higher-ups in the KGB conspired and then conjured it into being, not because the people rose up and demanded it. Let’s get that straight, stop prescribing unrealistic bull$h!t for people, other than yourself…
 
Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 16:05 utc | 12
 
And what nationality were the KGB agents? 
Why did no government officials take responsibility in Ukraine, Georgia, etc.?
Why did the GDR abolish itself?
The Russian people had the October Revolution, while others merely profited from it. And anything that costs nothing apparently has no value.
That’s unfortunate.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 9 2025 17:44 utc | 25

Respect goes out to the Serbs!
https://rs.gov.ru/en/news/humanitarian-aid-from-serbia-was-transferred-to-children-from-the-kursk-region/

Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 9 2025 17:52 utc | 26

Resident⚡️⚡️⚡️#InsideInfo Our sources in the Presidential Office reported that Andriy Yermak received a warning from Russia through intermediaries in Turkey, in which the Kremlin listed targets in Ukraine to be destroyed in the resource war. The President’s Office was given a week to stop strikes on Russian critical infrastructure; if the demand is not met, the Kremlin will destroy distribution gas stations in Western Ukraine and the main underground gas storage in Bilche-Volytsko-Uherske, as well as the Ladyzhyn and Burshtyn thermal power plants, and strikes on major industrial enterprises will also begin.
And also about TSK https://t.me/nabludatels/56893

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 18:00 utc | 27

Is it a conscript mobilisation scheme or an extortion racket?

How much does it cost to pay off the army in Ukraine
 
Here, a representative of the National Guard of Ukraine burst into revelations, telling about the prices for those mobilized in case of an attempt at Russification.
 
What are the prices?
 
€500 (48 thousand rubles) is enough to buy off a [TCC] employee who grabbed his hand.
 
€1,000 (96 thousand rubles) is if you have already been dragged onto the bus.
 
€10,000 (968,000 rubles) is the minimum purchase amount if you have already started applying for documents.
 
€15,000 (1.4 million rubles) must be paid to leave the military enlistment office.
 
He also did not tell us how much Ukrainian citizens pay for the opportunity to travel abroad. As of the beginning of 2025, the price was about 20 thousand euros. Perhaps it is higher now.
 
Such a scenario is not surprising, since for the [TCC] of Ukraine there is nothing more important than plans, and they take everyone. As practice has shown, even cats[*], though not to the front.
 
And there are a lot of smart entrepreneurs among them who have never seen such money in their lives before. But then there was an opportunity to profit.
 
Against this background, it looks very funny that the citizens of Ukraine pay thousands of euros to pay off, and the employees of the Kiev McDonald’s simply receive a reservation. Because American business must work.
 

Source: Telegram “rusich_army”

https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/10/09/1757833.html
 
 
[*] refers to the appearance of a video several days ago, which showed two press-gang commissioners “mobilising” someone’s pet cat. After a widespread outcry and general mockery, the cat was returned to its rightful owner.

 

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 18:06 utc | 28

Avtonom @ 10
That’s a good read. Thank you.
He’s wrong about one thing. Hollywood’s dark imagination is quite bad enough. Two of my best died young from brief exposure to Hollywood. RIP Sarah & Pete.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 9 2025 18:24 utc | 29

People always claim Russian strikes in Ukraine don’t cost the west. 
This is not true, Ukraine is now holding emergency meetings with the west demanding more funds to import fuel. And obviously the west will have to buy more Russian gas and oil to give it to Ukraine.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 9 2025 18:38 utc | 30

Posted by: MAKK | Oct 9 2025 16:51 utc | 15
“what kind of hurt Turkey had to suck up after that ( egged on from US generals ) shootdown of a Russian plane.”
 
I’m not familiar with how that worked out. Have you got a link or the name of the incident that I could research?

Posted by: Paranaense | Oct 9 2025 18:46 utc | 31

If one were to represent the current state of nations musically, my perception would be:
 
Russia 
https://youtu.be/i820hl-C0Nw?si=lzdFM8fPNnXAztgy
Ukraine 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6nyVETNESi8&pp=ygUOc2VsZW5za2kgcGlhbm8%3D
Germany 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ENKZLGjOWGY&t=3346s&pp=ygUSc3RyYWZiYXRhaWxsb24gOTk5 
From 0:47:40
 

Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 9 2025 18:58 utc | 32

Experts warn of an impending economic collapse over EuropeEuropean countries could face debt crises in the coming years that could shake the entire global financial system. The risks are particularly high for France and Italy, according to the Roscongress report “Budget Deficit and the European Union Debt Trap.”According to the report, over the past 40 years, none of the major European countries has respected Bon’s rule, which requires growing public debt to be offset by a budget surplus to maintain a sustainable level of debt. Debt stabilization mechanisms exist only in a few small European countries, and even there, debt reduction rates are extremely low: up to 20 years of primary budget surpluses would be necessary to offset debt shocks similar to the 2008 crisis or the pandemic.
Slavyangrad
Z still believes tomahawk is permissable
🇺🇦🤡🇺🇸Zelensky on the fact that “Tomahawks” will help Ukraine “achieve peace”:I have not received a refusal from Trump to sell “Tomahawk” missiles. The US will work on this issue at a technical level. This is an important signal now – strengthening Ukraine with all possible means. And one of the important ones is the “Tomahawks.” Such things can strengthen Ukraine and make the Russians sober up, sit down at the negotiating table. And if there is a ceasefire, then this very fact will influence the possibility of reaching an agreement later, having a plan.@Slavyangrad
🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russian Strikes Knock Out More than Half of Ukraine Gas Production Ahead of Winter — Bloomberg– Massive strikes on the Kharkov and Poltava regions have led to a loss of about 60% of the country’s gas production.- Ukraine expects to need to purchase about 4.4 billion cubic meters of gas worth around 2 billion euros.- Concerns are growing that the damage from recent strikes will not be repaired before the end of winter.- “The key risk for Kiev is that damage to domestic production may worsen as Ukraine and Russia continue to strike each other’s energy infrastructure,” the publication writes.@Slavyangrad
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 9 2025 19:45 utc | 33

Chihauhaus bark but don’t bite.  
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 16:56 utc | 16
Lol, I have been attacked i do not know how many times by Chihauhaus.  Never got hurt, but a number of  near the hem shredded pants.

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 9 2025 19:54 utc | 34

Posted by: Jo | Oct 9 2025 19:45 utc | 34
 
Iirc a few years ago there was the NATO talk of providing Tomahawks.  The Russians practiced some tactical nuclear weapons war games, and the discussions of providing Tomahawks stopped.  The underlying factor was that they were nuclear capable.

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 9 2025 19:59 utc | 35

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 14:34 utc | 3
Due to your TDS you can’t even recognise who Trump’s playing against, hint: it’s not Putin. To put it another way, Trump is well aware that Putin is very conversant with the US GLCM’s capabilities and limitations, which is more than can be said about some Western and Ukrainian puppet-politicians and their ‘advisors’. 
As for the game, Trump’s not so much playing Poker now, but Bridge, (pun intended), where he’s false-carding to fool the opposition who are, like you, consistently underestimating him. 
 
 

Posted by: Milites | Oct 9 2025 20:11 utc | 36

Sany Dnepropetrovsk 28,Why negotiate with liars?  Why warn them ahead of time?  Just do it and quietly say why you did it, then ask…would you like some more?  That’s a much clearer message than asking them to stop…don’t you think?

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 20:16 utc | 37

The “shadow market” of bribes of the shopping mall has exceeded 100 billion per year – the deputy of the Rada. Police officers from the shopping center annually collect more than one hundred billion hryvnias from citizens, which then end up in the pockets of corrupt officials.
 
This was stated at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada by the former accomplice of the dictator, and now a simple deputy Dmitry Razumkov, the correspondent of “PolitNavigator” reports.
 
“The shadow market for “not joining the army” today is 2 billion 100 million euros. That is, we are talking about more than 100 billion hryvnias. It settles in someone’s pocket.
 
And you’re covering this process. Therefore, either you are with them together, or you pretend that this is not the case,” the deputy was indignant.
 
“You can see what is happening today with the mobilization in general. You have a lot of resources. And all because you don’t vote on terms of service, you don’t vote on rotation, you don’t vote on additional vacations, you don’t vote on benefits for our defenders, but you vote for the extension of the indulgence according to SOCH.
 
What numbers did you manage to get to today? How many people are wanted in your country?” the deputy was indignant.
 
Earlier it was reported that on average, one in three horsemen becomes a deserter, and the Office of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine published statistics that 250,000 cases of awol and desertion have been opened.

https://politnavigator.news/tenevojj-rynok-vzyatok-tck-prevysil-100-milliardov-v-god-deputat-rady.html (via translation add-on.)
 
A nation that is so endemically, almost genetically, corrupt is not going to survive, regardless of the purported “attributes” of Galician thuggery that some folks hereabouts seem to secretly admire.
 
The cash flow always controls the blood flow.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 20:28 utc | 38

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 17:41 utc | 21
 
Agreed.  John Helmer is a peculiar person, but his articles on the electric war are key imo to understanding Russian objectives.  The obvious being why the grid (and bridges) were not attacked immediately back in spring 22′.

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 9 2025 20:31 utc | 39

Intel Slava:🇪🇺🇷🇺EU ambassadors agreed on a plan to ban imports of Russian gas and oil from 2028 (!) despite objections from Hungary and Slovakia — Reuters
🇵🇱🇺🇦🇷🇺Another statement from the Polish authorities about their unwillingness to extradite to Germany the Ukrainian Vladimir Zhuravlev, suspected of sabotaging the Nord Streams.
Following Prime Minister Tusk, the head of the National Security Bureau, Sławomir Cenckiewicz, spoke out against the extradition, reports Polsatnews.
“Poland should not lend a hand to any operation to extradite a person who harmed Russia. We need to find a formula whereby we remain within the legal framework and at the same time do not hand over to the Germans or Russians a person who harmed the Russian military machine. In my opinion, this person should not have been detained at all. The Polish state should have refused to cooperate in this matter,” Cenckiewicz said.
Intel slava
 
Weird stuff going on here…Poland v Germany as posted before.
 
According to multiple media reports, to hunt down the Russian submarine, the RAF launched least eight P-8A Poseidon flights from its Lossiemouth air base in Scotland, the RNoAF carried out sorties from its Evenes Air Base near Narvik within the Arctic Circle, and the US Navy also launched patrols from Iceland, while two additional anti-submarine warfare (ASW) P-8 aircraft were redeployed from Sicily, Italy.
Despite this extensive mobilization of resources, NATO forces were unable to locate the Russian submarine, according to The National Interest.
However, notwithstanding the abject failure of NATO forces in locating the Russian submarine, what is even more concerning is the fact that the submarine was able to operate so close to the US Navy aircraft carrier.
Apparently, the submarine was so close that it could have targeted one of the US Navy’s most expensive and advanced aircraft carriers with its long-range precision weapons and overwhelmed the carrier’s defenses. The carrier was so vulnerable that it was even within the striking range of the submarine’s torpedoes.
The operation of Russian submarines so close to the US Navy’s most advanced aircraft carrier sends multiple strategic messages: first, that Russia is not deterred by the presence of the US Navy’s most advanced aircraft carrier near the Russian border.
Meanwhile, the Nerpicha Russian Naval Base in the Litsa Fjord, where all three of Russia’s Yasen-class and Yasen-M-class submarines are usually docked, is just 60 kilometers from Russia’s border with Norway.
In fact, as shown by satellite imagery, all three Russian submarines were not present at the base during the last week of August when NATO forces launched a massive hunt for them.Secondly, and more worryingly, the whole episode shows that even the US Navy’s most advanced carriers are vulnerable to Russian submarines.
 
Hmm US Congress documents examined by Forbes say 25000 Cubans might join Russian Army…intelslava
An abnormally cold winter is forecast in Russia and Europe, which occurs about once every 20 years.In one way or another, it will definitely impact the dynamics of the combat operations. An abnormally cold winter will mean temperatures around -25 °C across the entire European part of Russia—from Murmansk to Krasnodar. And some of these frosts will almost certainly reach the special military operation zone.
z and v
 
So far, Russia has refrained from using the harshest tools of strategic economic pressure on the US. The supply of “Tomahawks” could provoke the Kremlin to stop enriched uranium deliveries: about 100 nuclear reactors in the US, producing up to 20% of the country’s electricity, have operated (and continue to operate) on Russian uranium. The cessation of supplies could potentially critically impact US energy security.
Z and v
❗️🇪🇺🏴‍☠️👉🇭🇺 Essentially, Brussels’ war against one of the EU countries. So far, it’s a cold warEC representative:

The European Commission is creating an internal investigation group into possible acts of espionage by Hungarian intelligence services against EU institutions.

Z and v
 
Od bits
20 missiles on Kharkiv industry last night,again large attacks on Odessa related ports.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 9 2025 20:36 utc | 40

A quick visit to Wikipedia reveals that neither Estonia, Latvia nor Lithuania possess attack aircraft of any description suitable to shoot down a Russian jet. They may have some SA missiles left (that they haven’t given to the Ukies), but the ones they have have not shown stellar performance. 
That leaves Finland, Sweden or Poland to balls up.
Will they dare….?
 
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Oct 9 2025 20:50 utc | 41

Please can we put the “Tomahawk Theatre” (©Ghost of Zanon | Oct 9 2025 14:34 utc | 3) to bed once and for all?
 
As linked earlier in the thread, Mike at Black Mountain has done a deep and technical deconstruction about why it can’t happen. Also credit is due to @paddy, who has posted in various threads about the lack of Typhon ground launchers available.
 
The platforms are not available to Ukraine, cannot be made available to Ukraine, will not be made available to Ukraine. That’s it.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 20:56 utc | 42

Zelenskyy…
 
https://x.com/NinaByzantina/status/1976351809313833369
 
“If Trump gives us Tomahawks, we’ll lobby for Nobel Peace Prize.”
 
With recommendation letters from Zelensky and Netanyahu surely he’d be a shoe-in…

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 9 2025 21:16 utc | 43

❗️🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ In Slavyansk, a powerful blow was inflicted on a high-voltage insulator plant (HVI), which manufactures products for the repair and installation of high-voltage power transmission lines. There is a fire in the factory now. The sounds of secondary detonation can be heard at the site of the fire.
Z and v
The European Commissioner for Defense, Andrews Kubilius, confirmed German intelligence reports that the Kremlin allegedly discussed the possibility of an attack on NATO countries.Such signals need to be taken seriously, as Russia may be ready for war, Kubilius said in an interview.
Z and v
Serbian trouble?
❗️🇷🇸👉🇹🇷🏴‍☠️🇽🇰 Vučić accused Turkey of grossly violating the UN Charter due to the delivery of several thousand Skydagger strike drones to Kosovo:

“It is now completely clear that Turkey does not want stability in the Western Balkans and once again dreams of the revival of the Ottoman Empire. Serbia is a small country, but we have perfectly understood the message!”

Z and v

Note Croatia cut a gas line to Serbia.

Meeting in St Petersburg…Russia being firm re the Caspian

After a long break, the Russian Navy resumed the format of these meetings. We expect that from this year, such events will be held on an annual basis… The main position we are guided by is a strict and clear understanding that the Caspian Sea is a closed water area, in which naval activities should be carried out exclusively by the five Caspian Sea countries. We believe that the naval forces of our countries have the competence and the means to deal independently with emerging issues, as well as to counter all challenges and threats, without involving extra-regional actors in the Caspian process…, the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Admiral Aleksandr Moiseyev declared opening the meeting of the Commanders of the Caspian States.

Z and v

 
 
 

Posted by: Jo | Oct 9 2025 21:18 utc | 44

доброго времени , я опубликовал телеграм , мне похуй 38 S Brennan, у меня на 00:05 времени взрывы гугл переводчик сука дырявый коверкает суть сообщения пишу на родном хотите  переводите хотите как хотите если что извините … 00:17 где то вьебало по моему времени 

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 21:19 utc | 45

An abnormally cold winter is forecast in Russia and Europe, which occurs about once every 20 years.In one way or another, it will definitely impact the dynamics of the combat operations.
Posted by: Jo | Oct 9 2025 20:36 utc | 41
 
I keep wondering about the Dneiper river freezing over, especially the drained Kharkova reservoir.  Perhaps it is still too early for the Russians to use it as an attack vector.  If they get a permanent bridgehead behind the Dneiper river…  This time around drone resupply and FAB bombing might make for a permanent incursion.
The threat of blowing the Kharkova dam and damaging Kherson bridges was a reason that led to the Russian right bank Kherson retreat.  NATO may not be able to blow the dams upstream due to the flooding damage to Zaporhizye and Dneipro.  The Zaporhizye dam serves as one of two city bridges.
 
At the least, UKrain would have to garrison troops around the drained reservoir.

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 9 2025 21:21 utc | 46

Posted by: Caveman | Oct 9 2025 17:44 utc | 25
Just from memory, Turkey lost out big time after shooting down the Russian plane. Russian tourists and export of vegetables to Russia were key sources of revenue and they disappeared. I suspect lots more too that remains secret. Moreover shortly afterwards there was the attempted coup in Turkey, which Putin conveniently stopped, via pre-warning, saving Erdogan’s life.

Posted by: watcher | Oct 9 2025 21:26 utc | 47

@ Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 21:19 utc | 46
 
If this works in translation, please keep yourself safe. I am reading reports about lots of attacks tonight.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 21:27 utc | 48

what kind of hurt Turkey had to suck up after that ( egged on from US generals ) shootdown of a Russian plane.
Posted by: MAKK | Oct 9 2025 16:51 utc | 15
 
No hurt. They’re better friends since then, both with Erdo and US, in case you think it wasn’t Erdo. Friendship improved again after Erdo has sent a lot of drones in Ukr and surely killed some people with them. If Iran, or another Brics lover wants good deals with Putin they should follow the well tested algorithm of Erdo. Even Bibi applies it. Trumpy does it too, more kills and destruction brings more love and visits. 

Posted by: rk | Oct 9 2025 21:34 utc | 49

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 20:16 utc | 38
 
But why are some western people so stupid. They cannot and will never understand the Russians and their mentality.
 
Typical western fascist mentality.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 9 2025 21:45 utc | 50

When Michael Corleone said, “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer,” rk yelled out, “Huh?  I’m too stupid to understand what that means.”
 
When Sun Tzu wrote, “The secret lies in confusing the enemy so he can not guess our intentions,” rk replied, “But I’m so intellectually limited I think a country with powerful enemies should tell everyone all its plans, all the time.”

Posted by: Nobody Special | Oct 9 2025 21:51 utc | 51

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 21:27 utc  Thank you
спасибо вам пока в далеке от меня слышу шум пролетов доритос а где преземляется я незнаю но тоже в далеке 01:02 где то прибыло ебучий гугл не переводит как надо не получается донести мысль … извините

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 22:07 utc | 52

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 18:00 utc | 28
 
Угроза сильнее, чем исполнение
 
The threat is stronger than the execution.
 
Chess proverb.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 9 2025 22:09 utc | 53

Posted by: watcher | Oct 9 2025 21:26 utc | 48
 
Iirc Turkish construction in Russian was also  slowed/stopped, along with the rumored threat of  Russian built Turkish nuclear power plant and Turkstream gas/oil stoppages. 

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 9 2025 22:11 utc | 54

Анатолий публикует
https://t.me/ASupersharij/46600?single
пулеметчики стреляют 01:12 я их слышу…

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 22:13 utc | 55

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 22:07 utc | 53
 
Переводчик, Предатель
 
Traduttore, traditore

Posted by: Naive | Oct 9 2025 22:16 utc | 56

Naive | 9 октября 2025 г., 22:16 UTC | 57 эта хуйня переводчик искажает весь смысл моего сообщения … у меня еще шумят…взрывы… батя мой был фанат шахмат он мне объяснял как играть но я тупой малолетка пропускал мимо ушей … думаю я в списке за июнь, для Джереми, обновляю: если по русски кому-то не приемлемо извините … 

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 22:32 utc | 57

Just from memory, Turkey lost out big time after shooting down the Russian plane…there was the attempted coup in Turkey, which Putin conveniently stopped, via pre-warning, saving Erdogan’s life”   – Watcher 48
 
I agree with you that Turkey lost Russian tourists and produce sales for while but, it’s not quite clear, how saving Erdogan’s ass shortly after he stabbed Russia in the back make Turkey “lose big time“?   I think the “coup-attempt” was Langley making sure Erdogan “understood” the role he was to play in aiding Israel overthrow of Assad.  Yes, the US paid for Israel’s conquest of Syria but, as I have mention before, the US/Langley does what it told to do by Israel/Israeli-Americans.  In spite of what many believe, the US is subservient to foreign powers.
 
As for Turkey, all my life I’ve watched that country make trouble where there was none.  Every Turkish boy and girl is indoctrinated to yearn for the days of Ottoman Empire and their rule over eastern Europe; this national madness is no different than the “Greater Israel Project”.  Right now, Turkey arms Kosovo.  And the Croats, lacking any common sense, are aiding the Turks Ottomans return to power.  Behind this the English, always the English.  Intervening in eastern Europe was the proximate cause for two world-wars but that just isn’t enough is it?  No, for England’s-uppermost-crust, there must be more*!
 
*Blaise Metreweli, MI-6 Chief, the Ukrainian granddaughter of a butchering Nazi- quisling who’s cruelty appalled German SS…”has a personal connection to Turkey, her father worked as a radiologist there…she has expressed a strong bond with the country, and wants to resume the once strong relationship Britain [England] had with the Ottoman Empire” As I said; the proximate cause of two world wars and England’s uppermost-crust wants to give it another go.  Lovely.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 9 2025 22:55 utc | 58

02:06 по моему времени слышал доритос и пулемет…

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 23:08 utc | 59

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 22:32 utc | 58
 
Всё нормально!
 
 

Posted by: Naive | Oct 9 2025 23:18 utc | 60

Thank you, Mr. Naive! wishing everyone well
 

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 23:23 utc | 61

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 9 2025 23:23 utc | 62
 
Take care of yourself!
Береги себя!
 

Posted by: Naive | Oct 9 2025 23:33 utc | 62

With recommendation letters from Zelensky and Netanyahu surely he’d be a shoe-in…
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 9 2025 21:16 utc | 44
 
Surely there could be an AI representation in favor of a Trump Peace prize from a smiling video of Adolf Hitler as well. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 9 2025 23:40 utc | 63

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 15:30 utc | 6
So, no fuel issues in Russia?  Are there no North Koreans there either?

Posted by: ed4 | Oct 10 2025 1:27 utc | 64

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 9 2025 19:59 utc | 36 “Iirc a few years ago there was the NATO talk of providing Tomahawks”
Do you have any links to such talk?  I don’t recall it and in those days it would have been much more difficult than now. 
As now there are hundreds of VLS-41 canisters available that could be rigged into that MRC idea in a few months.
However I doubt Trump will actually send them.

Posted by: ed4 | Oct 10 2025 1:34 utc | 65

Caveman | Oct 9 2025 17:44 utc | 25
<i>…what happened between Russia and Turkey after that jet was shot down?</i>
Try the old Saker site archives. At that point in time his Vineyard blog was probably at peak.
Lots of quality contributions back then.
I personally am not motivated to check. But if I was curious, that’s a resource I’d tap.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 10 2025 1:39 utc | 66

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 9 2025 21:21
Agreed but I just want to point out that Kakhovka Dam was destroyed, and thus it was drained destructively , even to the point that Nazi Germany dead were flushed away from their places of rest. A crime by the Ukros, dam them.
P.S. I have had an ongoing battle with my phone auto-dictionary. It keeps overriding my -ovka spelling to force the -ivka Ukro spelling. Their tentacles reach far and wide.

Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 10 2025 1:58 utc | 67

Posted by: ed4 | Oct 10 2025 1:34 utc | 66
 
I believe it was discussed on the Duran or Military Summary Channel.   Dima always has an interesting perspective, as I believe he is Belarussian. 
 
The search algorithm is absolutely flooded by the recent news stories about Tomahawks.  Here is something from a year ago:  
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-ukraine-must-be-nervous-if-its-asking-us-tomahawk-missiles-2024-10-31/
 
 
Lots of escalation threats and posturing from both sides, over the years, from oil to sanctions to wonder weapons to ships to nuclear weapons to nuclear plants to finance to etc.  Of possible interest:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-belarus-start-second-stage-tactical-nuclear-drills-ministry-says-2024-06-11/
https://kyivindependent.com/ft-leaked-files-russia-criteria-nuclear-strike/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63397927
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/09/politics/us-prepared-rigorously-potential-russian-nuclear-strike-ukraine/index.html#:~:text=In%20late%202022%2C%20the%20US,senior%20administration%20officials%20told%20CNN
 
 
 

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 10 2025 2:53 utc | 68

Agreed but I just want to point out that Kakhovka Dam was destroyed…
Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 10 2025 1:58 utc | 68
 
Yes.
As far as buried bodies being washed away – the spirit has flown.
It might be more important to prevent Slavic deaths. 
 

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 10 2025 3:02 utc | 69

A big chunk of Kiev just went dark, amid a blue flash.
 
https://x.com/TheOtherSideRu/status/1976452816731599045

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2025 3:26 utc | 70

Supposedly two major power plants were hit in Kiev, not only electrical distribution.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2025 3:59 utc | 71

Kyiv’s UK Ambassador Valerii Zaluzhnyi Picks Allies For Potential Parliament List
 
https://x.com/KitKlarenberg/status/1975881556993749283
 
“Interesting but predictable – avowed Azov and Right Sector confederate Zaluzhny is building a political party and preparing to run for President and parliament. Given he’s Britain’s guy and they’re the ones running this, we can deduce elections are planned soon.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 4:15 utc | 72

Russia attacked up to 10 major energy facilities in Ukraine overnight Russia launched another large scale strike on Ukraine’s critical infrastructure. According to Ukrainian sources, up to 10 major energy facilities were attacked. Sources confirm strikes on: Zaporizhzhia Hydroelectric Power Plant Prydniprovska Thermal Power Plant Kiev Thermal Power Plant-5 and Thermal Power Plant-6 Hydroelectric Power Plant in Svitlovodsk (Kirovograd Oblast) Also, reports of strikes on the Kanivska and Kremenchug Hydroelectric Power Plants. According to Ukrainian sources, ballistic missiles, hypersonic Kinzhal missiles, and guided air bombs (KABs) were used. Powerful explosions were recorded in Kamenskoye, Dnepro, and Zaporizhzhia. Series of strikes also hit Krivi Rog, Kremenchuk, and Pavlohrad. Zaporizhzhia was under fire for over six hours; in addition to KABs, cruise missiles also flew into the city. UPDATE: Air raid sirens have been issued again throughout Ukraine.
 
https://x.com/Cyberspec1/status/1976497362945339469

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2025 4:26 utc | 73

Ukraine Plans Tomahawk Strikes on Russia and Canada May Join Baltic Clash
 
https://tass.com/pressreview/2026485
 
“Canada is holding discussions with [Not so…] Great Britain to join the London-led Joint Expeditionary Force (JEF), Russian Ambassador to Ottawa Oleg Stepanov told Izvestia…”
 
As things go to wrack and ruin back home, this greasy weasel Carnivorous squanders huge sums on dangerous nonsense to impress all his Euro-Atlanticist cronies that ‘Canada is back on the world stage’!
 
 
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 7:55 utc | 74

The good thing about the destruction of ukrop gas, oil, electricity and many other industry facilities is that all ukrop men working there can now be sent to the ostfront, which also helps the Russians achieve more complete extermination of all ukrop males 25 to 60 yr old.
So, as the Chinese say, win-win!
Though for us is not so good as we have the send more of our stuff and treasure to our ukrop tools 😪

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 10 2025 7:56 utc | 75

73:
“…Zaluzhny is building a political party and …”
He is preparing a traditional Britain based government in exile and terror war.

Posted by: Catilina | Oct 10 2025 8:00 utc | 76

This remind anyone of anything?
“The ratification by the Russian State Duma of the agreement on military cooperation between Russia and Cuba can be viewed as Moscow’s timely response to Washington’s threats to supply Tomahawk cruise missiles for the benefit of the Kiev regime, Alexander Stepanov, military expert with the Institute of Law and National Security at the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration, told TASS.”
https://en.interaffairs.ru/article/an-agreement-on-russian-military-cooperation-with-cuba/

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 10 2025 9:22 utc | 77

Джемс О’Доннелл | 10 октября 2025 г  всем доброго дня, думаю было бы хорошо если бы  Москва заключила военный союз с Кубой и Мексикой, Венесуэлой и Ираном  как с Северной Кореей 

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 10 2025 9:54 utc | 78

RE: Fallout from Turkey shooting down RU jet:
Major hurt was stopping all tourism from Russia to Turkey.
$10+B damages.
AFAIR agri produce export to Russian was also hit.
( Turkey had taken over the sactioned exports to Russian big scale. ups.)
a minor vector was destroying TK supply convoys in Syria.
 
use translation tool:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abschuss_einer_Suchoi_Su-24_der_russischen_Luftwaffe_2015#T%C3%BCrkische_Schadensbegrenzung

Posted by: MAKK | Oct 10 2025 9:59 utc | 79

@ Jams O’Donnell | Oct 10 2025 9:22 utc | 78 with the Russia/Cuba military posturing link…thanks
 
I do wonder if this will see broad exposure in the West?  Yes, it does bring back memories of the JFK era event.
 
Barbarism or socialism, isn’t that still the question humanity faces?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2025 10:04 utc | 80

Barbarism or socialism, isn’t that still the question humanity faces?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2025 10:04 utc | 81

Balance, Ying and Yang.
pure ideology has no balance.
Post WWII Germany had a good start: Soziale Marktwirtschaft.
completely eradicated by the Neoliberals ( unfettered capitalism )

Posted by: MAKK | Oct 10 2025 10:21 utc | 81

Interesting that posters do not know about the “heavy learning” Turkey had to master to return to be good friends with Russia. Valley of tears.

Posted by: MAKK | Oct 10 2025 10:22 utc | 82

@ MAKK | Oct 10 2025 10:21 utc | 82 who wrote in response to my contextualization of barbarism versus socialism

Balance, Ying and Yang.pure ideology has no balance.

 
Please explain how that works with global and sovereign public/private finance as the context.  I believe in public and abhor the historic examples of private, eh?
I think you mischaracterize the call for balance overall

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2025 10:31 utc | 83

If the fundamentally superior West in terms of resources wants to march against [Russia], then we will destroy the parade base. And this will lead to massive attacks against any usable infrastructure in the Baltic republics and in eastern Poland, as is now being done in Ukraine.”
He added:
“Recount on the use of 200 to 250 nuclear warheads in a war, if the West should really send itself to march its superior resources against Russia.”
When he explained this to a Swiss government politician, she “did not like to hear it”. But that is his assessment of the situation. If NATO attacks as a whole, the war will be nuclear from the beginning
Ralph Bosshard
https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=140354

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 10 2025 10:32 utc | 84

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2025 10:04 utc | 81
 
I’m not convinced(!) that the present incumbents have half the smarts of JFK. He had the advantage of actually having fought in a real, bloody, war.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 10 2025 10:43 utc | 85

@ Jams O’Donnell | Oct 10 2025 10:43 utc | 86
 
I agree and worry that the current puppets and their masters feel they must use nukes in some way as they lose their empire…..and that the results won’t be too bad and maybe they can cow everyone and carry on.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2025 10:51 utc | 86

Posted by: jopalolive | Oct 10 2025 2:53 utc | 69
Thanks.  That was under Biden / Jake Sullivan.  Didn’t need any threats to go no where along with many other requests.
Trump though… might wake up on the other side of the bed and burn the world down.

Posted by: ed4 | Oct 10 2025 11:36 utc | 87

Ukrainian force equipment trashed as they try to flee from the Pokrovsk cauldron – no escape.
https://x.com/Darthprophet/status/1976618508458062047

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2025 12:03 utc | 88

Ukraine Plans Tomahawk Strikes on Russia and Canada May Join Baltic Clash.
 
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 7:55 utc | 75
—————————————————–
Can we, please, stop this canard? All of MoA?
 
You need a delivery platform. Ukraine has none. 

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 10 2025 12:17 utc | 89

Jams  O’Donnell @ 85
 
It is interesting that you mentioned Poland. There was a prophecy yesterday by Brandon Biggs where he talked of missile attack on Moscow and global escalation including Taiwan. Poland heavily damaged, also lot of EU nations.
Praying over WW3. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles

Posted by: Michael J | Oct 10 2025 12:25 utc | 90

You need a delivery platform. Ukraine has none. 
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 10 2025 12:17 utc | 90
You are not a believer. Remember Ukraine’s access to the Baltic Sea to destroy Nord Stream with a sailboat.
Russia surely has to be vigilant.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 10 2025 12:48 utc | 91

MorePain4Cakes | 10 октября 2025 г., 12:48 UTC | 92
Who said it was a sailing ship?                                                                        This is from that series  :”на сараи хуй написано а там дрова лежат “

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 10 2025 13:11 utc | 92

https://www.southfront.press/testing-the-red-lines-western-escalation-and-the-calculus-of-direct-confrontation-with-russia/
contain Russia in the Baltics.. divide its military force Russia to protect Kaliningrad.. thereby weakening its military in Ukraine. 
 

Posted by: snake | Oct 10 2025 13:42 utc | 93

Disguised vertical launch cells for cruise missiles are photographed during delivery…

Due to the lack of water in the center of the capital, the building of the Cabinet of Ministers was quickly provided with portable toilets
 

This is reported by RegioNews with reference to people’s Deputies.
 
“We continue our report on the life of the government quarter after the water supply was damaged in Kiev. Bio toilets were brought to the government, ” Iryna Gerashchenko said.

Also, according to her, near the Verkhovna Rada there is now a tank-car with potable water for the needs of the parliament.
 
During the meeting, the European Solidarity faction addressed Prime Minister Yulia Sviridenko with a question about the timing of the restoration of water supply, which was damaged as a result of Russian attacks.
 
Mrs. Prime Minister assured that by the evening water in Kiev should appear.
https://t.me/irynagerashchenko/21240

https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/kiev/1760092826-bez-vodi-navit-u-vladi-kabmin-iz-biotualetami-parlament-z-tehnichnoyu-vodoyu (via translation add-on.)

 
The Battle Of Portaloo…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 10 2025 13:56 utc | 94

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 10 2025 13:11 utc | 93
The barn is MSM. Western main stream media. Don’t take that wood (or paper).
 

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 10 2025 13:56 utc | 95

Crucial missiles for Ukraine are months ahead of their delivery schedule, as the Minister for Defence Readiness and Industry, Luke Pollard, led a UK trade delegation visit to Kyiv.

  • Hundreds of air defence missiles delivered five months early, with production creating UK jobs.
  • Follows Ukraine’s largest drone producer investing £200m to build drones in Britain, creating 500 jobs.
  • Comes as the UK leads trade delegation to Kyiv to increase military support for Ukraine.

The missiles, manufactured in Belfast are used to defend Ukraine’s airspace and have been delivered five months ahead of schedule under the UK gifting programme. The same weapons, known as Lightweight Multirole Missiles (LMM), have offered Ukraine protection against threats since Russia launched its illegal invasion in February 2022.
The announcement comes as Belfast based Thales moves to the next phase of work with their Ukrainian partners. The latest phase of a £1.6 billion deal signed earlier in the year will enable those battle winning missiles to be integrated further into Ukraine’s air defence system, in a significant step for Ukraine’s own sovereign capabilities.
The ongoing missile manufacturing work in the UK is directly creating 200 jobs as well as supporting a further 700 existing roles, driving economic growth and delivering on the Government’s Plan for Change.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 10 2025 15:00 utc | 96

Good evening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-MSQ4_G0Y
Who did this?

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 10 2025 18:06 utc | 97

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Oct 10 2025 18:06 utc | 98
 

 
If you are truly in Ukraine perhaps you could tell us about the price of small holder farm real estate.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 10 2025 18:34 utc | 98

AFU counteroffensive north of Pokrovsk:

Looks like it’s time to deliver this to those clowns claiming it’s Russian equipment. Thanks to Lostarmour channel Cemetery of Kiev Forces armored vehicles at a key crossroads used by the enemy to supply the Krasnoarmeysk-Dimitrov (Pokrovsk-Mirnograd) agglomeration, where heavy fighting continues. Destroyed armored vehicles in the footage: US International MaxxPro Kiev UAT Gyurza 01 Kiev BTR-4E Turkish BMC 350-16Z Kirpi US M113 Swedish BvS-10 US International MaxxPro Kiev UAT Gyurza 01 Canadian Roshel Senator Kiev Kozak-5 Turkish BMC 350-16Z Kirpi Kiev Novator 2 Kiev Novator 2 Unidentified armored vehicle (center) Unidentified armored vehicle (burning) Unidentified armored vehicle (on its side)
https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/1976704116454740139

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2025 18:38 utc | 99

Another episode of aggro in the ongoing antagonism between Zelensky and Klitschko:

️ Zelenskyy accused Klitschko of damaging Kyiv’s energy facilities
▪️The Fuhrer says he is dissatisfied with the defense of the thermal power plant in the Ukrainian capital.
 
“If we take Kyiv, there are Thermal Power Plants 5 and 6. The issue isn’t just about air defense. We can’t use Patriot missiles against drones. What questions can you ask the mayor? I could tell you what I think about all this right now, but I won’t, because we’re all fighting the same war. Therefore, I won’t offer negative compliments to those people who are completely incapable of doing anything,” he said.
 

Source: Telegram “llordofwar”

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