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October 5, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-231
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Opinion: nato is ramping up tens of thousands of suicide drones for a massive attack on Russia before RF gets any further out of reach for “diving territory resource conquest.”
Posted by: Ering46z | Oct 5 2025 13:22 utc | 1
Posted by: UNIQUE | Oct 4 2025 20:52 utc | 50
Unique – the figures given for the Russian and Western populations in that Putin speech you quote are off. The population of the combined West is a billion and more. Against them, 150 million Russians, plus some minor and often shaky support from the SCO/BRICS countries many of whom, maybe most, are sitting on the fence waiting to see how the conflict plays out.
That imbalance is not as uneven as it looks. The combined West is disunited and most of its component countries are in decline. And even in combination we do not have the military clout required to cope with the Russians in this theatre, nor the economic clout to destroy the Russian economy.
It’s still a significant imbalance and we are still formidable in information war and in what is now being termed “dirty war”. It won’t do the Russians much good when they win in Ukraine if we leave parts of the region a radioactive wasteland: there are indications that we’re wanting to intensify the attacks on NPP’s. Nor would it do the Russians much good when they win in Ukraine if we manage to set the Caucasus on fire, or some other stretch of that long Russian perimeter. Our military and economic impotence doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of other ways the West can damage Russia.
That explains the very cautious approach the Russians are adopting to the conflict. If the Russians respond to the current provocations that response will be taken as proof of Russian hostile intent. That enabling the Western governments to ramp up war fever. That’s not what the Russians want. They are looking to put this conflict to bed and get on with their business elsewhere. It’s not in their interest to extend or intensify the conflict. So they’ll roll with the punches provided those punches don’t get too damaging.
That doesn’t suit the Russian hard liners. But I’m going to guess Putin has his hard liners well in hand and will stay the course. I hope that guess is the right one. It really is quite astonishing how far our Western governments are going in mounting direct and indirect attacks on Russia, leaving aside the derogatory remarks the Russians are hearing from us. But that makes it all the more important for us that Putin continues to roll with the punches. We in Europe in particular would wake up with a most disagreeable jerk if the Russian hard liners got their hands on the wheel.
So we’d better hope that Putin does stay the course, A sobering thought, that my security and the security of my family is being put at risk by the actions of my own government; and that that security is now, in reality, in the hands of a foreign politician.
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 13:44 utc | 2
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 13:44 utc | 2
You are forgetting that China, Russia’s ally, has around 1.5 billion people making the Russia/China alliance at 1.65 billion against the West’s ‘disunited’ (you got that part right) 1 billion.
Posted by: canuk | Oct 5 2025 14:03 utc | 3
Dima/MS:
Fuel tanks hit in Chernigov.
Rocket and metal works and Nato weapon logistic hub in Lvov.
Several explosions in Odessa, possibly underground fuel tanks.
Rail station and trains hit in Shostka.
Clashes in Poltavka fortified area (East of Gulyapole).
AFU tried to launch counter-attack Sosnivka and Novoselika, no conclusions or proof of success exist for now. The aim is apparently to attempt to prevent the AFU collapse and slow down RUAF advance in Uspenivka and Orestopil, and prevent encirclement of Gulyapole.
AFU attacks in Ivanovka repelled.
RUAF continues dissecting AFU positions in Pokrovsk, especially in western and south-east part of the city. AFU abandoning SE parts.
AFU attacks in Novotoretske/Shaktove pocket were finally repelled and AFU exhausted, they are now falling back in Shaktove. RUAF already cut the northern road from Shaktove, potentially pocketing some AFU forces.
RUAF established position in NE part of Rodynske, NE of Pokrovsk.
Noose around Pokrovsk tightening.
RUAF take fortified area west of Zarichne, NE of Lyman. Apparently this was relatively weakly defended after defeat AFU attack on Zarichne a few days ago.
Losing Lyman will put Slavyansk, main AFU HQ and supply position in the region, in a potential flanked position.
RUAF improved position in west/center/south Kupyansk, pocketing AFU forces in the railway station. AFU unable to stabilize here.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 14:04 utc | 4
The one billion west are only if Japan and SK are added. They are both US possession but do not appear to have supplied much war material for the war on Russia. SK is one country that still has manufacturing power. SK alone could have supplied the artillery shells the west required but refused.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 14:22 utc | 5
Posted by: canuk | Oct 5 2025 14:03 utc | 3
I doubt if he was fogetting them tbh. He probably puts their support in the ‘shaky support from the SCO/BRICS countries’ camp
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 14:32 utc | 6
@Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 14:22 utc | 5
Japan and South Korea will not operate as bases for a US attack on China or Russia, even their oligarchs understand what would happen next. Neither will ASEAN except perhaps the Philippines under vassal Bong Bong. The European oligarchs will also have huge problems corralling their populations in any major attack on Russia.
Time for the US to retrench while sucking up as much financial and production resources from the vassals as possible. China+Russia+Iran+North Korea is just too strong, especially when the rest of the world will remain neutral and ignore any tariffs/sanctions. Russia will take what it needs from Ukraine, and China will one day be quietly and peacefully reunited with its renegade province.
The US will be coming for Brazil and any other South American nation resisting its hemispheric hegemony though. Venezuela may be a demonstration to scare the other children into compliance. Most probably ending in another US disaster.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Oct 5 2025 14:36 utc | 7
Roger Boyd | Oct 5 2025 14:36 utc | 7
Have to see how Japan’s new PM goes, but at the moment, it seems that with her running the show, Japan may well be thrown at China along with the Philippines.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 14:40 utc | 8
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 14:22 utc | 5 “SK alone could have supplied the artillery shells the west required but refused”
South Korea ‘lent’ 155mm shells to the US who then transferred US manufactured shells to Ukraine. And South Korea has been selling like mad to Poland which has then transferred older equipment that has been replaced by new South Korean manufactured equipment to Ukraine.
Posted by: ed4 | Oct 5 2025 14:45 utc | 9
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 13:44 utc | 2
That [population imbalance] explains the very cautious approach the Russians are adopting to the conflict.
No, that’s not it.
The cautious approach is due to current Russian demography. Russia cannot afford to lose too many men at war, which is what the West and ukrop elites want to achieve (“to weaken Russia”), because since 2015 Russian birth rates are below replacement. A stateman like Putin, has a holistic view of the whole set of variables that need to be taken into account when making major decisions.
Russia doesn’t fear the West, as you seem to believe. A nation with the largest nuclear arsenal of the world and advanced delivery tools, does not fear any population imbalance.
And the “information war” by the West that you seem to admire, is not formidable. It may seem to you it is, but for the Russians, is totally irrelevant. What matters to them is facts on the ground. They are ‘based’ (except for Dugin and its followers, which like West are post-modernists), while we in the West live in an informational Rio de Janeiro Carnival.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 5 2025 14:46 utc | 10
As far as I know, SK only supplied the US with the one small batch of shells. Poland replacement of its old soviet military equipment with new SK equipment has been a long term move.
When the main part off the conflict kicked off in Ukraine, Ukraine became a convenient dumping ground for its old Soviet equipment.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 14:50 utc | 11
I found a copy of Taras Bulba by Nikolai Gogol in these “Take a book. Leave a book” boxes that are all around my neighborhood here on the west coast of Pindostan where people put books for others to grab for free. (They’re really cool.)
The book really captures for me what a bunch of dummies Ukrainians are. It seems like it’s a common theme for the people of Ukraine to engage in war with their neighbors and in the process to lay ruin to their land. And they betray each other like the character Andri betrayed his father and his fellow Zaporozhinian Cossacks. And additionally get into debt with the likes of Yankel. Mazepa and Petliura seem like two older examples of this commonality of betrayal in the older history of Ukraine. Now we have Zelenski. Ukrainians are stupid. They do it to themselves. I don’t feel much pity, but it’s a drag that they’re going to drag us into Hot War 3.
I’m thoroughly enjoying the the book, just like I love MoA.
Shout out to Herr b for the new digs. They seem pretty much the same. The only difference I notice is that when I hover over a posted link, I no longer see the name of the link on the lower left hand side of my browser like it was in the past. I use Firefox. Much love to the MoA community!
Now that I want to post, the lack of preview is a drag. I have a sense of pre-gret.
Watch Those Dodgy Contacts – Mad Professor
Posted by: lex talionis | Oct 5 2025 15:07 utc | 12
Posted by: canuk | Oct 5 2025 14:03 utc | 3
“You are forgetting that China, Russia’s ally, has around 1.5 billion people making the Russia/China alliance at 1.65 billion against the West’s ‘disunited’ (you got that part right) 1 billion.”
That’s true, but we don’t know how far China will go in supporting Russia. There is no treaty between them giving hard commitments. Of course it would probably be in the best interests of China to go all the way, but they may think differently. You could certainly add North Korea in though – 26 million or so, and well equipped and determined in contrast to Europeans.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 5 2025 15:10 utc | 13
@ lex talionis | Oct 5 2025 15:07 utc | 12
Well, Gogol certainly knew his Hohols.
Interestingly enough, Gogol was born in what is now Ukraine but was at best only part Ukrainian in terms of ancestry. This doesn’t stop the Wikipedia trogs from identifying him (primarily in the “Hohol” entry and secondarily in the biographical entry) as “Mykola Hohol”, a name form he apparently never used.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 15:17 utc | 14
lex talionis | Oct 5 2025 15:07 utc | 12
I don’t usually use it but I tried hovering over your link and get the popup at lower left screen with web address..
I’m using Yandex. Haven’t tried it on the firefox or google browsers which I also have on this computer.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 15:18 utc | 15
@malenkov | Oct 5 2025 15:17 utc | 14
I suspect there is/was an entire Wiki intelligence operation to covertly turn Russians into Ukrainians against any fact.
I don´t know of a serious investigation about this not unimportant matter so I can´t offer qualitatively sufficiant proof but I bumped into a few cases and was complaining in various locations. Apparently someone in Wiki saw that and rectified a few of those lies.
Posted by: AG | Oct 5 2025 15:26 utc | 16
Thanks Peter. I should switch to Yandex. My Xanax has been wearing off lately.
Malenkov, I’m thinking about getting a hohol. I still have my hair. ; )
I’m going to look at the Wikipedia thing you mentioned. It’s always quite interesting to click on the talk tab and see the discussions about the posts there.
Thanks everyone. Have a nice fall Sunday.
Posted by: lex talionis | Oct 5 2025 15:33 utc | 17
Dear Lex
If you enjoyed Taras Bulba, you might enjoy Gogol’s Dead Souls. It is a fine book. Recently made into a Western!
I suspect there is/was an entire Wiki intelligence operation to covertly turn Russians into Ukrainians against any fact.I don´t know of a serious investigation about this not unimportant matter so I can´t offer qualitatively sufficiant proof but I bumped into a few cases and was complaining in various locations. Apparently someone in Wiki saw that and rectified a few of those lies.
Posted by: AG | Oct 5 2025 15:26 utc | 16
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…as a matter of fact!…
I just amused myself with the Wikipedia article “List of Ukrainian Composers” and laughed myself silly on account of its inclusion of such manifestly NON-Ukrainian composers (as even the relevant biographical entries can’t help but admit the truth) as Glière, Roslavets, Prokofiev (!!!), and Kapustin. Apparently any halfway famous composer with even the most tenuous connection to that part of the world is — hey presto! — Ukrainian.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 15:41 utc | 19
malenkov | Oct 5 2025 15:41 utc | 19
Thanks for the hint!
I wouldn´t be surprised if the same author name would pop up in the timeline of counterfactual alterations of the articles.
I might be making fun of it too, but matter of fact, it´s deeply disgusting…
Posted by: AG | Oct 5 2025 15:47 utc | 20
Biletsky finally promoted
Ukraine Promotes Neo-Nazi to Brigadier General | The Libertarian Institute
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Oct 5 2025 15:51 utc | 21
#13…jams..China/Russia/Iran got military treaty …they know very well UNIPOLAR WORLD(EU/NATO) would “choke” them if they could…..
Posted by: sejmon | Oct 5 2025 15:56 utc | 22
malenkov | Oct 5 2025 15:41 utc | 19
The Galician/Bandera Nazi’s believe they are the true Aryans. After the 2014 coup, school curriculum or at least text books changed. Kids are taught that Ukrainians are the original people and all other peoples originate from them.
I have seen that a couple of times now. But there is quite a bit of idiocy in current Ukraine children’s text books.
Just a week or two back, the Russian ambassador held up a children’s text book in the UN and pointed out what was in it.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 16:22 utc | 23
The Mayor of Lviv — a secret Kremlin operative?
Just a week ago, Lviv’s mayor proudly unveiled a new weapons depot and a massive logistics hub for military transport — all built in record time within the city’s technopark. The channel “Work, brothers!” sends its warmest thanks to Andriy Ivanovych for his unexpected assistance: Comrade Sadovyi, you’ve earned your medal! If the guards at the Kremlin gate don’t recognize you, just whisper the secret code — “Sadovyi is our elephant!”
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1974840898111381635
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 16:36 utc | 24
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 13:44 utc | 2
You’d better replace your ‘we’s’ with ‘I’s’, or are you a multiple personality?
Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 5 2025 16:51 utc | 25
So we’d better hope that Putin does stay the course.
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 13:44 utc | 2
As a #MAGA fan, I can’t understand this. Why is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine good, yet Bibi’s invasion of Gaza bad?
Why is it good that Putin stays the course and bad if Bibi does? Are Ukrainians subhumans? Are those in Gaza saints? Why is killing Ukrainians generally good and killing Palestinians bad?
Regarding MoonofAlabama, cheering death and destruction of your perceived enemy on one thread, and bemoaning death and war on the next, this is classic warmongering. Both Gaza and Ukraine are being attacked by much stronger, nuclear powers.
Both wars started on senile Biden’s watch, and expanded on his watch. Gaza was mostly rubble when Pharaoh Trump took office, Ukraine a bloody stalemate.
Western liberalism has morphed into fascism. But they failed to murder Pharaoh Trump in 2024. He wants to stop both of these wars and will do so soon. Xi will order Putin to stop, once Trump puts the right economic incentives in place for China.
Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 5 2025 16:59 utc | 26
Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 5 2025 16:59 utc | 26
Why is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine good, yet Bibi’s invasion of Gaza bad?
Because one represents the Entity and the other does not.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 17:01 utc | 27
Pharaoh Trump | Oct 5 2025 16:59 utc | 26
Israel is an anglo proxy. Ukraine is and anglo proxy.
The ethnic Russians of Ukraine do have a big brother. The Palestinians do not have a big brother.
The Ukrainians are Russians and Rus.
Israel is a European apartheid state planted in the Levant. Nutty is a Pole. The worst of the worst are mostly east Europeans.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 17:08 utc | 28
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 5 2025 14:46 utc | 10
“And the “information war” by the West that you seem to admire ..”
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Johann – Not really and I regret giving that impression. I loathe the information war stuff. It’s morally corrosive for our military and Intel personnel. Rots them out, those who go with it. Plus it sets your teeth on edge when you see it employed.
I would say it’s morally corrosive for the Western politicians and journalists too but they’re a lost cause anyway.
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 17:10 utc | 29
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 5 2025 14:46 utc | 10
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The demographics of NATOstan is far worse, the east is depopulating massively and the west is depopulating but with numbers propped up via migration.
Also you want to upset NAFO talking about Ukrainian losses & demographics. When they start spouting utter shit about Russian losses.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 5 2025 17:31 utc | 30
The Holocaust industry.
Where is the Holocaust industry for the Australian Aboriginals.
Where is the Holocaust industry for the American Indians?
Post WWI, the millions of communists we killed in the war against communism – starting with the Greek partisans. Korea, Vietnam ect.
A new enemy was needed. the War of Terror beginning with secular Afghanistan in 79 made formal on 9/11.
Now AQ is promoted as democratic Syria. Much of the secular muslim world destroyed. Orthodox Christianity under attack, many ancient churches of the Levant destroyed, Orthodox Ukraine outlawed.
The anglo wars against the world. How many millions have been killed, both directly and indirectly. I am anglo. Where is the holocaust industry for those so many millions we have killed?
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 17:32 utc | 31
My 31 should have gone in the open thread, but whatever. It is all relevant in whatever thread.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 17:37 utc | 32
Posted by: canuk | Oct 5 2025 14:03 utc | 3“I doubt if he was fogetting them tbh. He probably puts their support in the ‘shaky support from the SCO/BRICS countries’ camp”
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 14:32 utc | 6
Well, I disagee,
China knows that if the Empire prevails against Russia they are next on the menu; even if they don’t want to join Russia fighting against the West , they will have to for the existential reasons.
And, don’t forget the 26 Million North Koreans which is allied to Russia as well
Posted by: canuk | Oct 5 2025 18:02 utc | 33
Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 5 2025 16:59 utc | 26
“Why is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine good, yet Bibi’s invasion of Gaza bad?”
The Russian invasion of Ukraine was provoked. We left Putin no choice but to go in.
There was a long discussion on MOA about that. Prompted by Don Firineach. I took the gist of it and submitted it to the Canadian site, “Canadian Dimension”. Underneath a very balanced article by Professor Robinson. “Mayhem” in the search box here gets to the relevant section.
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/squaring-an-impossible-circle-of-peace-and-insecurity-in-ukraine
Hope that explains how we provoked the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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But that’s history. As for what’s happening now, I stated the main consideration in that same comment sequence:-
“Whatever side one is on, and whatever one’s opinion of the conflict, there’s no win for the West in Ukraine so we should stop feeding our proxies into the killing fields.” Trump could have helped there. He didn’t.
As for what’s happening in Gaza, where President Trump does have the say, Trump’s failure to stop that, and sometimes it seems his support and encouragement of it, is the great failure of the Trump Presidency.
“Bring industry back home. Also the troops. Drain the swamp. Ensure an adequate defence.” That was the clarion call of the Trump campaign in 2016 and many of us listened to it eagerly. He failed on all four counts. The atrocities we’re seeing in Gaza and the West Bank bear witness to by far the worst of his failures.
He was supposed to be better than the Bidens and the rest of them. But he’s proved to be much the same.
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 18:05 utc | 34
@ Pharoah Trump:
“Both Gaza and Ukraine are being attacked by much stronger, nuclear powers.”
I am not sure if that quote is tongue in cheek, but Ukrainian nationalists, after overthrowing the democratically elected government of Victor Yanakovich in February 2014, killed approximately 2,200 ethnic Russian civilians in Ukraine from March, 2014 – February, 2014. Those figures are from UN reports that at least used to be on UN’s website. The ethic Russians were the Gazans of this conflict until 2022 (but obviously no comparable scale of Gazan’s v. ethnic Russians suffering.
Posted by: schmoe | Oct 5 2025 18:08 utc | 35
“Bring industry back home. Also the troops. Drain the swamp. Ensure an adequate defence.” That was the clarion call of the Trump campaign in 2016 and many of us listened to it eagerly. He failed on all four counts.
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 5 2025 18:05 utc | 34
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Now, now! Trump *is* bringing the troops home — well, some of them — and putting them on the streets of select Democrat-run cities. This alone will ensure MAGA support.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 18:20 utc | 36
@31. If your interested in the Holocaust Industry, then Norman Finkelstein‘s ´The
Holocaust Industry“ is a must read. Absolutely revelatory.
Posted by: Valerie Swales | Oct 5 2025 18:34 utc | 37
Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 5 2025 16:59 utc | 26Why is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine good, yet Bibi’s invasion of Gaza bad?
If you are not able to see the difference, it means that you are completely stupid beyond any possible recovery.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 18:40 utc | 38
Putin’s Missiles OBLITERATE Ukraine, NATO Jets SCRAMBLE | Scott Ritter
Former UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter explains that Russia’s missile attacks are getting bigger and more destructive as Ukraine’s demise nears. NATO & Trump are not taking it well, and their next move could change everything. Andrei Martyanov and Garland Nixon also join to break it all down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8j4oE_gwg
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 18:44 utc | 39
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 17:32 utc | 31
It looks like everyone forget that the number of Soviet civilian citizens killed during WW2 was at least twice the number of jews. And nobody is speaking of that genocide, the worst one of the 20th century.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 18:44 utc | 40
Naive | Oct 5 2025 18:44 utc | 40
Both Russia and China. Many many millions slaughtered by invading armies. Russia it was the Imperial European capitalists. Japan had taken up European culture and technology and did the same in China. Though I guess the European culture was just a slight addition to the Samurai culture.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 19:00 utc | 41
‘Russian Strikes Hit Lviv. At Least 4 Killed’
https://x.com/bears_with/status/1974849474817347603
“Here is GenStaff’s answer to Putin’s endorsement at Valdai of the ‘core of the MAGA Movement, which supports President Trump’…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 5 2025 19:30 utc | 42
@ 35 (my comment)
“. . . killed approximately 2,200 ethnic Russian civilians in Ukraine from March, 2014 – February, 2014” The latter date should have been February 2022.
Posted by: schmoe | Oct 5 2025 19:40 utc | 43
@ Peter AU1
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I have been away from the bar for a few years, are you the same “Peter AU1” from a few years ago? Sorry if that is a dumb question, but I thought there were a few issues the “original” was dealing with.
Posted by: schmoe | Oct 5 2025 19:56 utc | 44
It looks like everyone forget that the number of Soviet civilian citizens killed during WW2 was at least twice the number of jews. And nobody is speaking of that genocide, the worst one of the 20th century.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 18:44 utc | 40
One could add that a large number of the murdered Jews were also Soviet civilians. Russia does not cultivate a concept of victimhood.
A long time ago, I received a T-shirt. Take a look at Islam and Judaism.
https://www.amazon.de/Jokes-Religions-World-Black-T-Shirt/dp/B08NY979PV/ref=asc_df_B08NY979PV?mcid=d0be2ff070df3765bba647a2a0fbc76f&th=1&psc=1&hvocijid=4711092615271181405-B08NY979PV-&hvexpln=75&tag=googshopde-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696184104678&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4711092615271181405&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9198313&hvtargid=pla-2281435175978&psc=1&gad_source=1
Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 5 2025 20:03 utc | 45
Ukronazis launched Himars on power plant in Belgorod. Response didn’t take long – 15 impacts in Kharkov. Not sure whether it’s Himars hunting or power plants, but apparently Kharkov is also dark now.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 20:12 utc | 46
but obviously no comparable scale
Posted by: schmoe | Oct 5 2025 18:08 utc | 35
The scale in numbers is not comparable but I agree, it’s the same thing. Or worse, if you consider what has happened after referendum, the size of Russia and that it has more nukes than the rest of the planet combined according to nato. Now let’s see if Xi has already bought train tickets to Alaska to avoid his Gaza lifestyle
Posted by: rk | Oct 5 2025 20:29 utc | 47
Russian optics in the center of Kramatorsk. The operator of the fiber-optic FPV drone “KVN,” right among civilian traffic, locked onto and destroyed a brand-new camouflaged Mitsubishi L-200 pickup belonging to the Kiev forces in downtown Kramatorsk. Geotag: https://lostarmour.info/map?coords=48.72384+37.60591 Once again civilians in Donbass towns occupied by the Kiev forces (and across Kiev as a whole) are urged to stay away from places where Kiev troops, vehicles, or equipment gather, since they can become targets of precise Russian strikes.
https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/1974933959613223210
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 20:37 utc | 48
Zelensky now wants “air ceasefire”…
https://tass.com/world/2025389“
MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE
5 OCT, 08:37
Zelensky asks for air truce in wake of explosions in Ukraine
He stated that a unilateral ceasefire in the sky is quite possible”
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“MOSCOW, October 5. /TASS/. Vladimir Zelensky changed tack following multiple explosions across Ukraine and called for a ceasefire on aerial attacks.”
“A unilateral ceasefire in the sky is quite possible,” he wrote on his Telegram channel, without explaining what that could mean. However, Strana news website described the statement as a radical shift in his policy course.
Zelensky may have changed his position amid significant challenges Ukraine is facing with regard to its air defense capabilities.”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2025 20:50 utc | 49
Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2025 20:50 utc | 49
Obviously he would like a ‘break’ from a pretty lopsided exchange.
Zelensky can only send a few drones on refineries (increasingly more protected against pre-planned drones by steel cages) while entire Ukraine’s electricity system gets totaled. I will repost this from a few days ago.
⚠️ Stormy night in enemy skies – another crushing blow to enemy infrastructure.
Last night, the enemy’s rear was hit with a powerful airstrikes: more than 350 Geran-2 UAVs, 10 Kalibr cruise missiles, 26 Iskander OTR missiles, and 8 Kh-35 missiles struck the following targets:
– The “Yuzhnoye Yangel” Design Bureau in Dnepropetrovsk was hit with 30 Geran-2 UAVs and 2 Kh-35 missiles, with numerous fires breaking out at the impact site.
– The Poltava Turbomachinery Plant was hit with 60 Geran-2 UAVs and 4 Kh-35 missiles, causing destruction to several workshops and equipment on the plant’s territory; waiting on the results.
– A storage and assembly site for UAVs, as well as a control point and ammunition depot, were destroyed by 40 Geran-2 UAVs in Novoselovka, 38 km southwest of Kharkov.
– Two Iskander missiles and 20 Geran-2 UAVs struck the Shebelinka-1 booster compressor station in Pyatigorskoye, 65 km southeast of Kharkov.
– Two more booster compressor stations, Shebelinka-2 and Shebelinka-3 in Glazunovka, were hit with 6 Iskanders, 3 Kalibr missiles, and 40 Geran-2 UAVs.
– Soon after that, the Shebelinka-4 booster compressor station in Shebelinka was hit with 2 Iskander missiles and 15 Geran-2 UAVs.
– The Krestyshchenskaya booster compressor station in Pershetravnoye, 70 km southwest of Kharkov, was struck with 2 Iskanders, 2 Kalibr missiles, and 20 Geran-2 UAVs.
– The Grebenka gas compressor station in Poltava region was hit with 2 Iskander missiles, 2 Kalibr missiles, and 20 Geran-2 UAVs.
– The Popovka gas compressor station in Poltava region was visited by 2 Iskander missiles, 20 Geran-2 UAVs, and 1 Kh-35 missile.
– The Semerenky gas compressor station was “decommunized” using 2 Iskanders, 20 Geran-2 UAVs, and 1 Kh-35 missile.
– The Gamalievsky gas processing plant in Poltava region was “made whole again” by 2 Iskander OTR missiles and 20 Geran-2 UAVs.
– The Yablonovsky gas processing plant in Poltava region was properly “illuminated’ with the help of 2 Iskander OTR missiles and 20 Geran-2 UAVs.
– The Yablonovskaya-1 gas complex preparation unit in Poltava region “left the chat” persuaded by 4 Iskander OTR missiles, 3 Kalibr cruise missiles, and 25 Geran-2 UAVs.
There is only one thing we’ll say to the nazi regime continuously threatening our citizens from their podiums: “Winter is coming.”
This is not 2022. We have tens of thousands of weapons of destruction in reserve and tens of thousands more on the way, worthy targets will be found for them.
You wanted to play the energy resource shortage game — let’s play.
https://t.me/NgP_raZVedka/22884
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 20:54 utc | 50
Quoted by Trubind1 @ 49:
“A unilateral ceasefire in the sky is quite possible,” –Rubber Boi
It will be a unilateral ceasefire only if Russia respects it, otherwise no ceasefire. Nazis are like zionists, they always lie.
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 5 2025 20:57 utc | 51
schmoe | Oct 5 2025 19:56 utc | 44
Yeah. When I came back from the dead, b contacted me to confirm that. I tried living for awhile but that did not work so have gone back to drinking like a thirsty fish. I was though able to isolate the last food intolerances, so now living is tolerable. Mineral deficient and vitamin deficient yet tolerable. My only interests now are the grand chessboard and opal.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 21:13 utc | 53
It will be a unilateral ceasefire only if Russia respects it, otherwise no ceasefire. Nazis are like zionists, they always lie.
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 5 2025 20:57 utc | 51
Yes, like Trump. It follows that Trump is a nazi and a zionist. Very good point!
Thanks!
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 21:13 utc | 54
@ lex talionis | Oct 5 2025 15:07 utc | 12
I highly recommend Nikolai Gogol’s 1835 novella Viy, a terrifying horror story based on Ukrainian folklore. The 1967 Russian film of the same name is a superb adaptation and is my favorite horror movie. Special effects are by Russian FX wizard Aleksandr Ptushko.
One of the characters is a tough old Cossack who looks like he could break you in half. You would not want to make fun of his excellent khokhol.
Posted by: Spiny Norman | Oct 5 2025 21:18 utc | 55
You have to wonder how long Putin can play this game of limited territorial gains without taking major cities or apparently preventing the Ukro army from continuously regenerating.
The status quo may even suit the west to some degree as it keeps escalation at bay, but there must come a point when the equation doesnt stack up for Russia if they are continually hit at the border regions, without capturing, lets say, Pokrovsk.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 21:22 utc | 56
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 21:22 utc | 56
Zaporozhye/Pokrovsk-Konstantinovka axis are probably the most important axis of SMO. Believe it or not, Kharkov, Chernigov are side shows.
Seversk and Lyman will lead to the fall of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and Druzhivka. But I think Zaporozhye collapses first for Ukraine before those.
Dnepropetrovsk will eventually end up isolated from rest of Ukraine on the left bank of Dniepr.
The war is decided in the southern axis. Dnepropetrovsk is also the ‘great prize’ for the west with its +$30 trillion worth of minerals, including titanium deposits.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 21:26 utc | 57
The long term goal of the european union is to forcibly conscript all euro men into this war, leaving behind defenseless women and foreigners.
Posted by: JackoBen | Oct 5 2025 21:47 utc | 58
Naive | Oct 5 2025 21:11 utc | 52
*** Guess who is the new French minister of war? **
Brigitte Macron ?
Posted by: Cynic | Oct 5 2025 21:51 utc | 59
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 21:26 utc | 57
agree with all of that, the issue is that none of it appears close to happening. For how long has Pokrovsk been ‘on the menu’? Where are the Ukro front line collapses leading to rapid gains?
Yet the shelling of the Russian border regions continues unabated leaving many to flee or remain without power on an almost continuous basis.
An inflection point will be reached at some point, perhaps much sooner than we think, and I don’t see any possible retreat/withdrawal from the newly acquired territories being an option. And neither do I see the current situation as resolving the issues that are so important to Putin amd Russia itself.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:00 utc | 60
Gogol and stuff. Ukraine folk law.
Hatred https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdwxyBybqg
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 22:04 utc | 61
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:00 utc | 60
If you follow current events, Pokrovsk is on the verge of collapse. Gulyapole will fall after the current fortified areas east and NE of it are taken. Right now AFU is trying to counter-attack/slow down RUAF advance to flank Gulyapole from the north, but after that is defeated they will move to flank Gulyapole and eliminate AFU resistance in it from many directions.
RUAF has a wide axis of advance on the road north out of Konstantinovka. There is no way AFU can prevent Konstantinovka ending up cut off from the north.
Same with Pokrovsk, on verge of cut on its northern road. AFU pushed out of the west/SW part, now SE part. They have the second citadel in central-east part of the city remaining and the industrial zone in NW part, which seems to be changing hand soon. Pokrovsk, it’s just a matter of cleaning up AFU remnants. After that the street is open to the west. The non-manned AFU fortified areas west and SW of Pokrovsk were rolled over, and the ones going along a west-east orientation flanked from behind and side. It has been a hot topic in Ukraine recently, how all those fancy concrete bunkers and trenches were taken without, basically a single shot.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 22:06 utc | 62
*** Guess who is the new French minister of war? ** Brigitte Macron ?
Posted by: Cynic | Oct 5 2025 21:51 utc | 59
Nope! Maybe worse…
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 22:10 utc | 63
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:00 utc | 60
Once more patience is not a western quality.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 22:15 utc | 64
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2025 22:06 utc | 62
Im sorry I am highly sceptical of reports of the imminent fall of Pokrovsk – the Ukros have performed successful counter attacks in the area only in the last few weeks.
if it’s not taken by the end of autumn I’ll be proved correct in my concerns.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:16 utc | 65
Re:
“It will be a unilateral ceasefire only if Russia “respects it, otherwise no ceasefire. Nazis are like zionists, they always lie.”
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 5 2025 20:57 utc | 51
Russia should just respond with:
”Unilateral?”… We’re in agreement. You can ceasefire anytime”….
Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2025 22:22 utc | 66
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 22:15 utc | 64
I think the west have probably pushed Putin into a position he would prefer not to be in, to an extent.
I don’t think he’s as comfortable with the situation as we may think. I suspect he would take some kind of ceasefire if the west wasn’t insistent on things like installing the coalition of the willing or allowing Ukraine an unlimited sized army. As things stand that’s not possible and so Russia must accept constant ‘pin pricks’ (which would be somewhat more than pin pricks if you were forced to flee your home as many have ) in exchange for very little movement in Ukraine
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:23 utc | 67
……..for very little movement in Ukraine
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:23 utc | 67
Russia has taken about 9% of Ukraine since the start of the SMO. Altogether, with the lands controlled by separatists before the SMO, its about 20%.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 5 2025 22:54 utc | 68
@53 Peter AU1
Sorry about the struggles but glad you are persevering. I myself have had odd food intolerances although not particularly severe, but they can be incredibly difficult to isolate.
Posted by: schmoe | Oct 5 2025 22:56 utc | 69
Where are the Ukro front line collapses leading to rapid gains?
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:00 utc | 60
_________
Russia doesn’t seem interested in “rapid gains”. and IMHO rightly so. Unless we’re talking uninhabited fields and forests, “gains” means infrastructure that needs repairing and people who may not be uniformly friendly.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 22:57 utc | 70
Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 5 2025 22:23 utc | 67
Obviously you do not understand the Russian mentality and душа.
And one more who “thinks” he is in the head of Putin. Always the same western propaganda. Go fuck yourself!
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 23:00 utc | 71
Nope! Maybe worse…
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 22:10 utc | 63
————-
Worse for who, the French?
Dude blew a gaping hole in the budget last time and France couldn’t afford that then.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 5 2025 23:00 utc | 72
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 22:57 utc | 70
He is trolling.
The gains are more than 1000 ukrainian servicemen eliminated every day. + foreign ones.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 23:04 utc | 73
Worse for who, the French?Dude blew a gaping hole in the budget last time and France couldn’t afford that then.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 5 2025 23:00 utc | 72
Yep, for the French. He is also famous for his pornographic book. Wondering if he was fired from Lausanne or if he resigned. It is said that he earned for one year 250’000 € for 2 days “teaching” a week, and plenty of holidays.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 23:09 utc | 74
@ Naive | Oct 5 2025 23:04 utc | 73
You’re right. I shouldn’t have fed him/her/it/them.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 23:10 utc | 75
@ Naive | Oct 5 2025 23:09 utc | 74
I’m mildly curious to know whether the sex in that pornographic book was between Horowitz and his beard (Toscanini’s daughter) or some boy. Not curious enough to actually read the thing though.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 23:14 utc | 76
but they can be incredibly difficult to isolate.
Posted by: schmoe | Oct 5 2025 22:56 utc | 69
I had a number and it took me eighteen years. The medical world took many thousands of dollars and was not worth jack shit.
After isolating yours, I hope you have a life worth living.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2025 23:22 utc | 77
@Spiny Norman #55
VIY | HORROR | FULL MOVIE
Mosfilm – English subs
VIY | HORROR | FULL MOVIE – YouTube
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 5 2025 23:29 utc | 78
sign of thetimes
In Konstantinovka, Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers complain about a critical shortage of personnel The commander of the 93rd mechanised brigade, with the call sign Vasiliy, told CNN in a comment that his unit has not received a single reinforcement in 8 months.“There is a catastrophic shortage of personnel. No one wants to fight. For the people, the war is over. Only the old fighters remain, they are tired and want rotation, but it is not given. We are tired. Everyone is tired of this war, and I think other countries are also tired of helping us,” he said.The officer also noted that a significant part of the problems at the front is not reported to either the government or the public:“We do not report much to the state. And the state does not report much to the people.”Communication with the frontline is one of the most serious problems, which, according to the soldier, remains without a proper response.@Slavyangrad
Broken Army: Who will fight tomorrow?Former MP and now active military Yuri Lutsenko openly stated:”A personnel catastrophe is brewing in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the current rate of losses and desertions, in two years there may simply be no one left to fight on the front lines.”The numbers speak for themselves:- Mobilisation of 30 thousand is rare, and even 20 thousand is considered a “good” result.- The number of deserters is understated by several times. In some units, according to Lutsenko, the number of runaways is 5 times higher than in official reports.- The army shrinks by 10-15 thousand people monthly.- Of the “million” on the lists, no more than 400 thousand are actually combat-ready, of which only a small part holds positions on the front line.On paper, a million-strong army. In reality, depleted units, demoralised soldiers, and a critical shortage of manpower at “zero.” The Armed Forces of Ukraine lose tens of thousands monthly, and due to failures in mobilisation efforts, units remain understrength. Mobilisation is stalling, people are fleeing, and the front is held by worn-out remnants. And if nothing changes, very soon there will simply be no one left to fight.@Slavyangrad
people being seized by the recruitment teams are those criticiding the government apparently.
Zero reaction from the world, Russia is laughing!” — Zelensky accused the West of inaction after strikes on UkraineThe illegitimate president of Ukraine lashed out at Western countries after a massive strike by the Russian Armed Forces. According to the overdue one, the world community is not reacting to what is happening, and Russia “laughs at the silence and lack of strong retaliatory actions.”
slavyangrad
its all over???
Posted by: Jo | Oct 5 2025 23:52 utc | 79
Trubind1 @66:
Russia should just respond with: ”Unilateral?”… We’re in agreement. You can ceasefire anytime”….
I laugh, but that is precisely so!
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 6 2025 0:18 utc | 80
its all over???
Posted by: Jo | Oct 5 2025 23:52 utc | 79
I assume the million on paper is mainly 6 feet under.
Otherwise it could be stretched for a couple of years
Posted by: Newbie | Oct 6 2025 0:21 utc | 81
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2025 23:14 utc | 76
Neither I. It was said it is about something being “dilated”. Wondering what it could be.
More interesting, he did not know how many square metres is one hectare.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 0:39 utc | 82
Neither I. It was said it is about something being “dilated”. Wondering what it could be.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 0:39 utc | 82
________
CRINNNNGGGE. I think we both know.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 6 2025 0:46 utc | 83
re: BlindSpot | Oct 5 2025 20:03 utc | 45
heh, heh … I+I smoke the good shit mon!
Posted by: tucenz | Oct 6 2025 1:24 utc | 84
@englishvoutsider 2
Quote ” adopting to the conflict. If the Russians respond to the current provocations that response will be taken as proof of Russian hostile intent. That enabling the Western governments to ramp up war fever. That’s no”
Russia must do opposite of what Anglo controlled west wants her to do
Otherwise this assurance that Russia will sit back while Anglos escalate openly , encourages English pirates to openly attack Russia through proxy(English are a coward race so rely on proxy..)
As long as Putin will act cowardly and never attack English inside or outside England as a main priority, the Russians will be killed and never will get rest from British plots.
Nato and Russia war in next 5 years? So what has been happening since 2014? More so since 2022? Picnic given by pirate English parasites’?
It is deliberate ignoring of NATO war on Russia that Putin has been following and which has encouraged 3rd rate country England to dare attack Russia blatantly .
War would go on escalating till England is stopped better annihilated in its military defeat.
Posted by: sam | Oct 6 2025 1:48 utc | 85
sam | Oct 6 2025 1:48 utc | 85
Russia understands death and destruction. We do not.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2025 1:56 utc | 86
Posted by: sam | Oct 6 2025 1:48 utc | 85
These “Putin is a coward!” trolls have been tiresome and wrong since long before Feb 2022. Their obvious intent is to try to make Russian people and leadership angry enough to act out of character, and to provide another bullshit excuse for further escalation of the conflict. “Nuke them all”, they say. Yeah, wonderful.
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 6 2025 1:57 utc | 87
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 6 2025 1:57 utc | 87
Spot on!
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 2:09 utc | 89
Sorry everyone for the table display. and the scrolling needed
Posted by: watcher | Oct 6 2025 2:20 utc | 90
Spot on!
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 2:09 utc
89
You and I are not always in disagreement even though you have called me a “fucking troll” in the past. Good to see your approval this time!
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 6 2025 3:25 utc | 91
Still the weekend here so posting one more YouTube song I like…
Beach Boys.
https://youtu.be/dDHErN3dOkc?si=2GLZR3Ko9YwaAJQ3
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 6 2025 3:34 utc | 92
wouldnt it be ironic if all the new young recruits were of russian speaking population.most ukies have fled long ago,only russ left to draft.
just a thought.
Posted by: billy | Oct 6 2025 3:37 utc | 93
That Beach Boys song reminds me of my middle school and high school years. There really was a girl who had a fancy T-Bird, paid for by her daddy who was the locally well-known rich goy, complete with a cowboy hat. I remember it well because that girl danced “The Bump” with me in 7th grade at a public school dance. I later worked at their business.
https://youtu.be/5RheYzUWoxU?si=ZLWpxtTkzSxhLb2m
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 6 2025 5:11 utc | 94
That Beach Boys song reminds me of my middle school and high school years.
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 6 2025 5:11 utc | 94
Oh, do fuck off with your puerile reminiscing and your non-stop spamming this forum Observer. fucking troll
No one sane gives a fuck about your musical tastes, get lost up your on orifice.
Their obvious intent is to ………….
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 6 2025 1:57 utc | 87
You would know, you dumb idiot spamming troll
Buy now – Jens Stoltenberg’s (ex Nato secretary) memoirs of the great challenges during his Nato leadership position:
“The book reads like the diary of an anxious eunuch at the imperial palace, obsessing over the emperor’s moods and defining success as keeping favor.”
https://x.com/ewaldeng/status/1975076851870818711
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2025 6:08 utc | 97
It looks like everyone forget that the number of Soviet civilian citizens killed during WW2 was at least twice the number of jews. And nobody is speaking of that genocide, the worst one of the 20th century.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2025 18:44 utc | 40
Slavs are described as sub-human, this opposed to God’s Chosen? How could there be any comparison? The Jews themselves say 1 Jewish life is worth more than any amount of soulless animals. We should all wonder in awe that we are even allowed to walk the same planet as our betters. If anyone invented this absurd fallacy these days they’d be laughed at as delusion nutters. Belief often has little in common with reality.
Posted by: Organic | Oct 6 2025 6:10 utc | 98
Wilfred Owen’s poem “1914” seems eerily relevant to 2025:
https://youtu.be/zKHEQW8vIl8?si=q5XuCa149fpJfYhc
1914
Wilfred Owen, 1893-1918
War broke: and now the Winter of the worldWith perishing great darkness closes in.The foul tornado, centred at Berlin,Is over all the width of Europe whirled,Rending the sails of progress. Rent or furledAre all Art’s ensigns. Verse wails. Now beginFamines of thought and feeling. Love’s wine’s thin.The grain of human Autumn rots, down-hurled.
For after Spring had bloomed in early Greece,And Summer blazed her glory out with Rome,An Autumn softly fell, a harvest home,A slow grand age, and rich with all increase.But now, for us, wild Winter, and the needOf sowings for new Spring, and blood for seed.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Oct 6 2025 7:35 utc | 99
I wish all Europeans could watch this video to understand how pointless the sanctions against Russia have been. This is Eyck Freymann, a Hoover Fellow at Stanford University, specialized in international trade, speaking a few days ago at Harvard university (full video here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xtV8zjOcF4s). He did the research and not only does it show, in his words, that the sanctions were “a failure”, but that in many ways Russia is doing better than before the war. They’re taking in more oil revenue and ordinary Russians are “doing great”, with significantly higher incomes (after inflation) than before the war. Hard not to come to the conclusion that, in effect, Europe is punishing itself first and foremost with its sanctions, all the more because the second-hand effect is that we now need to rely on much more expensive US energy. It really raises the question: who exactly is sanctioning whom here?
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1974851639254434039
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2025 7:59 utc | 100