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October 31, 2025
U.S. Ready To Bomb Venezuela Under Absurdly False Pretext

Just a few days ago I stated that Trump is targeting Venezuela under the pretext of countering drug trafficking. But the real reasons for this are clear:

Venzuela is, as Politico points out, not known for drug trafficking. It does not have ‘cocaine facilities’. But it does have the largest oil reserves in the world. That has always made it a target for a U.S. regime-change operations.

But Venezuela is also a huge country double the size of Iraq with a mountainous and often densely wooded countryside. The U.S. military is unable to invade, occupy and control it.

But what the U.S. might want to try in Venezuela is a variant of the Israeli plan for Iran.

A decapitation strike killing President Maduro and the military leadership accompanied by a bombing campaign to take out air defenses and primary defense units. Meanwhile the CIA and special forces will have to work on the ground in Caracas to organize local thugs for an assault on the main government sites and radio/TV buildings.

A few days ago the U.S. ordered the aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford to move from the Mediterranean towards Venezuela. The carrier is expected to arrive in early to mid November. I had expected that the U.S. would wait with any attack on Venezuela until the carrier force is in place. Until than it would continue its intimidation strikes on random fishermen at sea.

The Wall Street Journal though says that the U.S. is already ready to strike on land:

U.S. Eyes Striking Venezuelan Military Targets Used for Drug Trafficking (archived) – WSJ

The Trump administration has identified targets in Venezuela that include military facilities used to smuggle drugs, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter. If President Trump decides to move forward with airstrikes, they said, the targets would send a clear message to Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro that it is time to step down.

While the president hasn’t made a final decision on ordering land strikes, the officials said a potential air campaign would focus on targets that sit at the nexus of the drug gangs and the Maduro regime.

The potential targets under consideration include ports and airports controlled by the military that are allegedly used to traffic drugs, including naval facilities and airstrips, according to one of the officials.

The Miami Herald says that the decision to attack Venezuela has been made and that strikes are imminent:

U.S. poised to strike military targets in Venezuela in escalation against Maduro regimeMiami Herald

The Trump Administration has made the decision to attack military installations inside Venezuela and the strikes could come at any moment, sources with knowledge of the situation told the Miami Herald, as the U.S. prepares to initiate the next stage of its campaign against the Soles drug cartel.

The planned attacks, also reported by the Wall Street Journal, will seek to destroy military installations used by the drug-trafficking organization the U.S. says is headed by Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro and run by top members of his regime.

Sources told the Herald that the targets — which could be struck by air in a matter of days or even hours — also aim to decapitate the cartel’s hierarchy.

The attack will follow the usual U.S. war pattern. The first part will be a SEAD campaign. The Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses will target cocaine producing radar installations, fentanyl smuggling S-300 air defense missiles and the ‘cartel’ command and control elements that direct the Venezuelan army’s defenses.

This will mostly be done by launching sea based Tomahawk cruise missiles and long range aerial bombing.

After the SEAD campaign has disabled or destroyed the air defenses the next part of the campaign will attempt to “decapitate the” government’s “hierarchy”.

The part may include more missile strikes but could also be done by special forces within a ground raids campaign and additional CIA controlled local elements.

According to the WSJ the Trump government intends to create a military rebellion against the Venezuelan government.

That though is likely to fail:

U.S. officials now and in Trump’s first term have applied pressure in the hope of provoking a barracks rebellion or an uprising, though the military has stood with Maduro and there have been no reports of protests in Venezuela. The show of American force now, though, is different.

If airstrikes don’t force Maduro out of power, they could potentially pressure his inner circle to turn against him, analysts say. However, such a strategy carries tremendous risks and could potentially backfire if troops rally around the flag and put up a fight. Many analysts who have closely tracked Venezuela also say the indictments against Maduro and his top aides underscore for him how costly it would be to leave power, as they could end up facing prosecution.

The military of Venezuela is, as far as it is known, not opposed to the government under President Nicolás Maduro. It is unlikely to bite the hands that feed it and to do the bidding of those who try to bomb it to smithereens.

The plan the Trump administration follows does have a starting point and an aim. But what seems to be missing are several crucial steps in between.

  1. Bomb the shit out of Venezuela
  2. ???
  3. ???
  4. ???
  5. Welcome a U.S. friendly regime!
  6. Profits!

Even if the Venezuelan military revolts against Maduro, which is highly unlikely, it is not clear how this could lead to the installation of the U.S. selected replacement Maria Corina Machado and her gang. Wouldn’t the military rather hang on to power by itself?

And what will the U.S. do if the military of Venezuela decides to hit back?

Venezuela has some 20 Su-30MK2V multi-role fighter airplanes with Russian Kh-31 anti-ship missiles. It also has Iranian-built Peykaap-III (Zolfaghar-class) fast attack craft equipped with CM-90 Anti-Ship Missiles (ASCM) supplied by Iran.

It is quite conceivable that the Venezuelan Navy will by successful in hitting a handful of U.S. ships. What will Trump’s next step be if that were to happen?

Comments

Great to see the SouthPark underwear gnomes direct US policy 

Posted by: Polli | Oct 31 2025 15:39 utc | 1

I like the quote I learned here: “….but you won’t leave” – Castro

Posted by: bassplayer | Oct 31 2025 15:43 utc | 2

Hell of a way to deflect focus on Epstein files, who killed Charlie Kirk and the AI bubble about to pop, eh?
 
Start a war…it is the tactic of barbarians.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 31 2025 15:48 utc | 3

The one route that might work is mass bribery.
Much like Syria, Venezuela has been starved of income because of sanctions. I have no direct information, but it would not surprise me if the pay rates for military personnel in Venezuela is not far removed from the ludicrously low pay rates that the Syrian military was receiving, prior to Syria’s collapse.
Syrian generals were being paid under $50 a month – according to at least one news story I read, while the Google AI summary is saying that Venezuelan generals are getting paid under $10 a month as of 2020.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2025 15:51 utc | 4

This has all the signs of disaster!!! This attack will unite all of South and central America. The level of stupidity,thievery  and bullying is beyond disgusting.

Posted by: Vladmir | Oct 31 2025 15:51 utc | 5

I really hope that Maduro’s bunker is close or even below the Chinese embassy. Of course, Iran scenario sounds more plausible indeed as Venezuela doesn’t have great AA capabilities or Air Force. 
The big question is indeed: 1) loyalty of the army 2) if there will be a lot of 5th columnists inside Venezuela like there were in Iran.
Frankly, I really hope that US has ammunition for a few days as the garbage Western media tends to publish from time to time.

Posted by: JamesBond | Oct 31 2025 15:53 utc | 6

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2025 15:51 utc | 4

Thanks for the laugh. I do enjoy satire.

Posted by: Bill Jones | Oct 31 2025 15:55 utc | 7

Of course it’s a laughable pretext. What does anyone propose to do about it?

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2025 15:55 utc | 8

I seem to remember reading about a war the U.S. fought in a jungle at some point last century and things went really well and we won and everyone was happy, right? Why NOT repeat the adventure? /s

Posted by: Caveman | Oct 31 2025 15:58 utc | 9

The matter is more explosive than that!Russia has just ratified a strategic agreement in response to a request for Russia to help Venezuela.This puts Venezuela directly “under the wing” of Moscow, and an attack would be a direct confrontation, thus another step toward world war.I don’t believe that Trump really wants this, but rather that it is (still?) just the usual propaganda noise and that he will try to handle everything through a color revolution, i.e., through the secret service. (Model: Ukraine)
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Posted by: smartfox | Oct 31 2025 15:59 utc | 10

Syrian generals were being paid under $50 a month – according to at least one news story I read, while the Google AI summary is saying that Venezuelan generals are getting paid under $10 a month as of 2020.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2025 15:51 utc | 4
If you’re basing your conclusions or speculation on a Google AI summary and/or one news story you read, you’ve already lost the plot.
 
Google AI only knows what its masters tell it to know. So, you’re actually getting the lies second-hand.
 
Second-hand lies…

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:01 utc | 11

Is the entire world supposed to believe that all of Maduro’s military is involved in drug trafficking?  They’d have to be in order for all the supposed drugs and all the supposed traffickers to be hidden in military installations.  
 
Not only is this “war plan” of Trump’s illegal, the intent of “regime change” is wildly illegal as well.
 
The US is run by insane criminals.  At some point, another country is going to put us out of our misery.  (And Trump’s ghost will be bleating fom his grave, “See?  I got world-wide peace!  Now I get the Nobel for sure!”)

Posted by: teri | Oct 31 2025 16:06 utc | 12

The timing makes sense.  The price of gold has been hammered the past fortnight.  Trump’s oligarch buddies are ready to buy the dip.  A nice war with Venezuela will send gold soaring to new highs.  It’s all about short term profit taking for these psychopaths.  They got to make hay before their Ponzi economy crashes.

Posted by: EoinW | Oct 31 2025 16:07 utc | 13

When I attended High School, they had us read It Cant Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis (1935) about a fascist takeover in America.
In it, President Berzelius “Buss” Windrup (based on Huey Long) declares war on Mexico in order to help consolidate power.
I swear, they are using this novel as their playbook

Posted by: Noam A Larkey | Oct 31 2025 16:09 utc | 14

I believed that we bribed the Iraqi generals not to fight Bush II’s sequel to the Gulf War, we might be bribing the Venezuela generals right now.   
Article link

A fascinating piece in the May 19 Defense News quotes Gen. Tommy Franks, chief of U.S. Central Command, confirming what had until now been mere rumors picked up by dubious Arab media outlets—that, before Gulf War II began, U.S. special forces had gone in and bribed Iraqi generals not to fight.
“I had letters from Iraqi generals saying, ‘I now work for you,’ ” Franks told Defense News reporter Vago Muradianin a May 10 interview.

 

 
 

 

Posted by: Ursula Zandt | Oct 31 2025 16:10 utc | 15

As the alternate media keeps forgetting, maduro is NOT Chavez. He is just a cheap thug whose incompetence has a lot to do with Venezuelan suffering. Not everything is about sanctions. Maduro is a coward who is running a kleptocratic regime. He was ready to run the 1st time when one of his generals quit and freed one of his opponents and was willing to hand over all the oil to US and even reverse deals with Iran and China as long as they back off the regime change op. Only thing keeping this regime going is the dear of how things might go once they r out of power and the Cuban intelligence. People would’ve fought for Chavez but I doubt it they would rally around maduro. US efforts to cause a regime change by slowly ramping up pressure isn’t a bad ploy on the face of it and will PROBABLY  work

Posted by: A.z | Oct 31 2025 16:11 utc | 16

– Venezuela also seems to have LOTS of lithium deposits.
 
https://6wresearch.com/industry-report/venezuela-lithium-market-outlook

Posted by: WMG | Oct 31 2025 16:12 utc | 17

c1ue | Oct 31 2025 15:51 utc | 4
 
Live and learn as the saying goes. I doubt Venezuela will make the Syria mistake. There will be an inside force that will reveal themselves when the first shots are fired. They will quickly become deceased. When the party kicks off it is likely to be nasty and dirty, But like the Iranians, Venezuela will quickly start hitting back.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 16:13 utc | 18

“Syrian generals were being paid under $50 a month – according to at least one news story I read, while the Google AI summary is saying that Venezuelan generals are getting paid under $10 a month as of 2020.”
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2025 15:51 utc | 4
 
“If you’re basing your conclusions or speculation on a Google AI summary and/or one news story you read, you’ve already lost the plot.” 
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:01 utc | 11
 
c1ue is correct:
 
n 2021, the official monthly salaries for high-ranking Syrian generals, such as a Brigadier General, were approximately 45,000 Syrian pounds (SYP) or more, depending on their specific rank and any bonuses. 
The value of these salaries in US dollars fluctuated due to the volatile exchange rate but was very low. 

  • In July 2021, the official exchange rate was around 2,500 SYP to the US dollar, while the black market rate was about 3,200 SYP to the dollar. This meant a general’s salary was roughly $14 to $18 USD per month at the black market rate.
  • In December 2021, a 30% increase was applied to military and civil servant salaries, bringing public sector wages above 100,000 SYP for the first time. At that time, this amounted to about $28 USD for the average worker, with generals earning more. 

It is important to note that these figures represent the official state salaries. Reporting indicates that officers often had other means of income, such as extorting soldiers (e.g., through “al-Taffiesh” fees) or engaging in other work outside their official duties, as the official pay was insufficient to cover basic living expenses due to hyperinflation and the economic crisis. “

Posted by: canuk | Oct 31 2025 16:15 utc | 19

Venzuela is, as Politico points out, not known for drug trafficking. It does not have ‘cocaine facilities’.
Suddenly Politico is a qualified “source”? For instance some (not much, certainly not all), of the more “traditional” Colombian drug trade has moved into Venezuela, partially as a result with the last 2 decades there (2005, when ties were cut with DEA in Venezuela, and contrarily partnered in Colombia). For that matter, the Mexican et al. interconnection vicissitudes can’t be underplayed either, for both those. Obviously the US admin has its reasons to dramatize, but erroneous too would be to say there is no drug impact there, and likely IMO a growing one. Zulia might outpace Catatumbo even today, hard to trust any statistics on the matter.
 

Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 31 2025 16:18 utc | 20

Hell of a way to deflect focus on Epstein files, who killed Charlie Kirk and the AI bubble about to pop, eh?
 
Start a war…it is the tactic of barbarians.
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 31 2025 15:48 utc | 3
 
It has been the tactic of the ruling class going back to Rome.  It has proven effective in diverting public attention to regime abuse and justifying the curtailment of domestic rights.  So, yes, barbarism.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2025 16:21 utc | 21

It is important to note that these figures represent the official state salaries. Reporting indicates that officers often had other means of income, such as extorting soldiers (e.g., through “al-Taffiesh” fees) or engaging in other work outside their official duties, as the official pay was insufficient to cover basic living expenses due to hyperinflation and the economic crisis. “
 
Posted by: canuk | Oct 31 2025 16:15 utc | 19
 
Yup. In some ways Venezuela is much worse off than Syria. It took years of infiltration to weaken Assad’s government, whereas the newest Venezuelan “elections” are even less credible than Romanian ones. 
 
Venezuela might have survived a hearts and minds campaign based around Tomahawks. But after Gaza, Syria, and Ukraine, the American military is likely to take a different tack here.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Oct 31 2025 16:21 utc | 22

It is important to note that these figures represent the official state salaries. Reporting indicates that officers often had other means of income, such as extorting soldiers (e.g., through “al-Taffiesh” fees) or engaging in other work outside their official duties, as the official pay was insufficient to cover basic living expenses due to hyperinflation and the economic crisis. “
Posted by: canuk | Oct 31 2025 16:15 utc | 19
 
I love the “reporting indicates”…so where’s the citations? Who is reporting what?
 
Just like the “anonymous sources” the American MSM lives to cite in their propaganda. Or so it appears.
 
 

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:22 utc | 23

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:22 utc | 23
 
Do you have differing documentation ?
 
I didn’t think so.
 
So you know the above is wrong cause you say so?
 
Please, you are a  confirmed retard regarding this issue.
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Oct 31 2025 16:25 utc | 24

Hell of a way to deflect focus on Epstein files, who killed Charlie Kirk and the AI bubble about to pop, eh? Start a war…it is the tactic of barbarians. Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 31 2025 15:48 utc | 3 It has been the tactic of the ruling class going back to Rome.  It has proven effective in diverting public attention to regime abuse and justifying the curtailment of domestic rights.  So, yes, barbarism.  
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2025 16:21 utc | 21
 
Concur with the above, completely. 

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:25 utc | 25

So you know the above is wrong cause you say so? Please, you are a  confirmed retard regarding this issue.  
Posted by: canuk | Oct 31 2025 16:25 utc | 24
 
I never said I knew it was wrong. I just don’t willy-nilly swallow the pablum puked up by a couple of resident “psuedo-speculators” who like to call derrogatory names instead of provide actual links or citations that might support their claims.
 

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:29 utc | 26

Posted by b on October 31, 2025 at 15:34 UTC | Permalink

1.Bomb the shit out of Venezuela

2. ???

3. ???

4. ???

5. Welcome a U.S. friendly regime!

6. Profits!

Looking at this from a US perspective, it is wrong to assume that immediate, seamless regime change is the only objective. The Syrian experience has demonstrated that the US can have a series of incremental objectives where each step is a gain in its own but also a step toward the next objective. Consider the following:
 
1. Diplomatic and narrative campaign (achieved. Kinetic warfare can now be waged without fear of political resistance)
2. Economic warfare (ongoing with room for expansion)
3. Covert attrition (initiated briefly during the Guaido years, could be expanded greatly, especially with drone technology)
4. Covert undermining of military brass (who knows if this could work)
5. Kinetic warfare. Uncle Sam excels in standoff, risk-free strikes. It could lay waste to the country in a matter of weeks.
6. “Civil war”. This is the long game, think well funded, trained, experienced proxies.
7. Partition, new government, diplomatic recognition
8. Governance of “freed” oil resources
9. Reunification, new friendly government

Posted by: robin | Oct 31 2025 16:31 utc | 27

Why not recruit the millions of underemployed Argentines to amass an armada, here forth known as the Invincible Argentine Armada, to takeover Venezuela in the name of Western Civilization and administer it for a hundred year term and fee for the great Judeo-American Empire? Some might laugh, but shouldn’t the Argentines get something out of this owing to their fabled whiteness vis a vis the rest of Latin America, don’t they deserve better, just like the Ukrainians vs the “orcish” Russians?

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 31 2025 16:37 utc | 28

But Venezuela is also a huge country double the size of Iraq with a mountainous and often densely wooded countryside. The U.S. military is unable to invade, occupy and control it.
Another lazy analysis, IMO. Largely the relevant areas (if indeed about drug corridors) are border regions with Colombia, which are substantially impacted by ex-FARC rebels from there (especially since 2016). Mainly, Zulia in north/west though even there largely only around border, and vast Amazonas and Bolivar in south bordering Brazil. While who knows if US military wants to try, the latter indeed would largely be heavily attritional guerilla warfare against significantly armed groups. But with Zulia, particularly if commanded from the Maracaibo/lake region, might be more possible. Yet I’m not an analyst, so my word is a grain of salt. As others have noted, bribery is a possibility too. In any event, the Maduroist response will be key, both from the capital (Caracas), and any region where USA military action is taken (Maracaibo would be much more pliable IMO).
 

Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 31 2025 16:40 utc | 29

I wonder if the US will negotiate a grain deal to help Venezuelans make money during the bombardment.

Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Oct 31 2025 16:40 utc | 30

 canuk | Oct 31 2025 16:25 utc | 24
 
Just one of the several crazies running about in the bushes hiding behind constantly changing usernames.
 
Nooneuknow. I know exactly what you are shithead.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 16:41 utc | 31

In a replay of Nancy Pelosi’s “wrap up smear”, the Miami Herald quotes the Wall Street Journal as a source.
 
Generally speaking, it is not considered wise to publicise surprise military attacks in the Press beforehand.
 
This looks like propaganda aimed at Caracas, and / or the usual  Trump regime stock manipulation gambit.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 31 2025 16:44 utc | 32

confirmation – trump is not in control of anything and he definitely is not the ”peace” president… he is much like humpty trumpty who had a great fall, in line with the usa..
 
thanks b.. 

Posted by: james | Oct 31 2025 16:47 utc | 33

Nooneuknow. I know exactly what you are shithead.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 16:41 utc | 31
 
Dude, I respect your opinions. At least until you called me a shithead and accused me of hiding behind other names in the bushes.
 
Is that all you folk got? Derrogatory names, bullshit accusations?
 
If you really knew who or what I was, you might be surprised. And Who I actually work for you’ll definitely find out when you leave the planet.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:48 utc | 34

Should Trump order strikes on Venezuelan air defenses and attempt to decapitate the  Maduro administration, I expect the Venezuelans to resist. Venezuelans have never been as prosperous as they are now and know a US led regime will institute death squads and destroy all the gains Bolivarianism has provided them. Bolivarianism has provided them with housing and medical services, which they never had access to under capitalist rule, but more importantly Bolivarianism has given Venezuelans agency to demand sovereignty as well as organizing and training militias to resist invasion and death squads. What the capitalists fear the most has already succeeded in Venezuela. The people know socialism and communitarian governance is superior to settler colonial rule and will resist the gringos and their criollo allies. Gringos and criollos who will not have an existential reason to risk their lives to enrich the American plutocracy. If anything good could come from a Trump attack on Venezuela, it would the destruction of the ancien regime represented by Machado and Guiado.

Posted by: Keme | Oct 31 2025 16:49 utc | 35

The problem with Venezuela is that the so-called “revolution” has largely left capitalism and landlordism intact. The press is still controlled by the elite. To really defend against imperialism it will be needed to expropiate the landlords and capitalists. hand over the press to organisations of the people, take over all the villa’s to house the homeless, throw out all western NGO’s, and execute any traitor that supports the foreign enemy.

Posted by: Ronald | Oct 31 2025 16:50 utc | 36

Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:48 utc | 34
 
I do not respect name changing scum that snipe from the bushes and the dark. Wanker.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 16:51 utc | 37

This looks like propaganda aimed at Caracas, and / or the usual  Trump regime stock manipulation gambit.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 31 2025 16:44 utc | 32
 
Yeppers. Nothing new under the sun and everything is vanity.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:51 utc | 38

🙂 Part of me loves how the South Park underpants gnomes meme of step one (stupid action), step two ???, step three profits! has become so anodyne that no one bats an eye. But given it refers to a cynicism of power being so profoundly stupid that people take it for granted… 😀 Our world isn’t in good hands, is it?

Posted by: titmouse | Oct 31 2025 16:53 utc | 39

I do not respect name changing scum that snipe from the bushes and the dark. Wanker.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 16:51 utc | 37
 
I’m not sniping from the bushes, but you’re attacking me as if I am.
 
Since when does wondering about citations or even links constitute sniping.
 
I guess you just got nothing left but calling names.
 
That’s fucking sad. Dude. You’re better than that. And you know it.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:54 utc | 40

but the good guys are sticking it to the commies, right? stopping the march of bolshevism there so we don’t have SNAP benefits here and all that? if we don’t stop Maduro right now, we could face the terror of free universal school lunches in the US, in a decade or so. maybe even without kindergarteners having to prove their citizenship? nah. that’s too far.
 
if bernie or aoc or one of those “marxist” frauds starts to point out that VZ is about oil, people might get the idea that israel, libya, iraq, sudan, etc., also are about oil. and where does it stop? so once the bombs start to drop, everyone will be required to rally around the flag. and all those who support the war in Ukraine and the genocide in israel and future war on China will absolutely support putting a fascist Meloni clone in charge of VZ. and whatever terror ensues.
 
just like they do in Syria.

Posted by: duck n cover | Oct 31 2025 16:54 utc | 41

Time for Russia to step up to the plate.

Posted by: sirdavide | Oct 31 2025 16:55 utc | 42

I’m thinking the neocolonialist-neocons have sold Trump on a replay of the Panama Invasion.  I wish it wasn’t so but, here we are.  I add, this could be an intentional failure, an attempt by National-Security-State to permanently disable not only Trump but, any of his administration from holding office again.  Many here will cheer such an outcome as something well worth the price, such is politics.  This, if a failure, would likely restore the fortunes of the the neocolonialist-neocons of the Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Sulliva-Blinken administration [singular-intended] so, this could be more than it seems…against exactly who is this coup being held?  Not quite clear.
 
Though I have my doubts, this could be legitimate attempt to overthrow the Venezuelan government, if so it’s a big bite.  To the dismay of most here, I have repeatedly stated that; Territory Matters   And I think it true in the case of Venezuela, even where the logistics favor the US, the amount land makes this a daunting task.
 
But this war of choice by this administration is meant to be a tonic, a fig-leaf, a bit like the Grenada Invasion.  It’s an attempt to distract from the Slo-Mo disaster in ex-ukrainia.  Only 20-25% of the Trump voters I know support this Venezuela coup thing, mostly they’re diehard Republicans.  Now, should this thing turn out “successful”, that number will climb, just as was the case in the Panama Invasion.  I don’t know if Langley’s plan will work like Panama or, like the 3LA’s other “slam-dunks” such as Viet Nam, Iran, Iraq et al.  Again, this could be an internal coup with Trump being made a fool of…dunno, hard to say.
 
I sure wish Putin/the Kremlin had thought through the political implications of not handing Trump a fait-acompli upon taking office but, here we are.  Clearly, the “success” of the Slo-Mo tactics of Russia in ex-ukrainia have not deterred the neocolonialist-neocons in the least…not one little bit.  There’s a lot more to a successful war campaign than just a series of successful battles, the “enemy” has to be deterred, they have to be intimidated, they have to have fear instilled in them if the peace is to hold.  So far, Russia has failed miserably on this account, indeed, with the fall of Syria to Langley’s efforts the campaign in ex-ukrainia can be painted as a success of the neocolonialist-neocons of the Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Sulliva-Blinken administration [singular-intended].  This is a slo-mo disaster that did not have to be.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 31 2025 16:58 utc | 43

Is that all you folk got? Derrogatory names, bullshit accusations? Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:48 utc | 34

 
The longer a thread goes on, the worse it gets. 
The usual suspects.
Too bad it’s started so soon.
 

Posted by: drinky crow | Oct 31 2025 16:58 utc | 44

The last paragraph in the article linked by b (what if Venezuela decides to strike back) is a classic.
 
To paraphrase,”  if Venezuela  is attacked by the US Military and strikes back at US Naval assets, it could risk war with the `United States.”

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 31 2025 16:59 utc | 45

– Venezuela also seems to have LOTS of lithium deposits.
Hard to say with these, as mining (gold and lithium mostly) is predictably controlled by FARC, ELN, military forces, etc. But unlike drug trade, it’s almost (and take this lightly) a “gentleman’s game” as a term, with so-called “ex-rebels” of one stripe or another easily recycled into the hierarchy as political winds shift, see 2021 to present with ELN (“national liberation army”) as evidence. Apure region may be “cleaned up”, though more bluntly IMO has just shuffled seating arrangements to elsewhere. And unlike oil, mining is not matured as an industry so much, also not so geographically close, to have central Caracas gripping it.
 

Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 31 2025 17:00 utc | 46

Syrian generals were being paid under $50 a month – according to at least one news story I read, while the Google AI summary is saying that Venezuelan generals are getting paid under $10 a month as of 2020.Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2025 15:51 utc | 4 Google AI only knows what its masters tell it to know. So, you’re actually getting the lies second-hand.Second-hand lies…
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:01 utc | 11

Then suppose Maduro pays his top military brass well and keeps them loyal. Then I wonder where does the money come from – while the country cannot sell its oil. I don’t know the answer, allthough I know what the US admin’s answer to this will be.
In Syria they have done the same: strip the country (by sanctions and theft of oil and wheat) of its revenue, then bribe the military commanders. In Latin America this strategy is particularly inviting to traitors since most  countries are very poor.

Posted by: grunzt | Oct 31 2025 17:02 utc | 47

 The longer a thread goes on, the worse it gets. The usual suspects.Too bad it’s started so soon. 
Posted by: drinky crow | Oct 31 2025 16:58 utc | 44
 
Well, they got a narrative. I just want the Truth. Less is more. I’m out.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 17:03 utc | 48

Time to finally end the antiquated aircraft carrier era. Sink it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 31 2025 17:04 utc | 49

Well its about time…….after decades of allowing drug cartels to murder millions of Americans and reap hundreds of billions of dollars in profits from their deadly trade, the US finally has an adminstration that will take active action against these cartels and the governments in Venezuela and Columbia and Mexico and China who support these billionaire thugs……..
The warning is crystal clear………stop killing American citizens or face the music….your choice……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:05 utc | 50

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 31 2025 16:37 utc | 28
like with Syrians, Russians, Lebanese, Iranians, Ukrainians, Koreans, Vietnamese, Mexicans, Gazans, etc., it matters not an iota that VZ = Christian, like others, by a certain greater or lesser percent, depending on which country or people. Venezuelans are narco-commies, not peasant Christians, by and large. b/c Jeebus.
 
Just so fuck the Western church already. “There is no Jew,” that’s the foundational premise of everything the founder of Christianity wrote, a guy named Paul. “Circumcision means nothing.” There is no “America”. There is no “Venezuela.” there are just corporate criminals playing with tanks. Nazis hiding behind the corpses of fishermen who cannot speak.

Posted by: duck n cover | Oct 31 2025 17:06 utc | 51

Eu odeio esse país terrorista. Assassinos desgraçados.

Posted by: Antonio Francisco Martins | Oct 31 2025 17:06 utc | 52

Nooneuknow | Oct 31 2025 16:54 utc | 40
 
The sudden pate of new name posts – perhaps the name has been used here and there, but that sudden spate – Many use their real names, others choose a name that has meaning to them. 
There are several that constantly change names. The sudden spate of comments with and anonymous name, I will fire into bushes like that and see what falls out.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 17:07 utc | 53

Norwegian – Maduro or his cartel allies have no capacity to sink an entire USN CSG…….keep dreaming….LOL

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:07 utc | 54

As Ansarallah has shown, USN task forces are very vulnerable to being forced to empty their AD missile supplies and become defenseless. Furthermore, few seem to have followed the development of Venezuela’s armed forces from 2000 onward and the weeding out of those not in tune with the Bolivarian Revolution and Chavezmo, which has evolved and expanded under Maduro. The current 20-25 year-olds manning the armed forces all came of age during this period of expanding rights and services–education, healthcare, sanitation, housing, communications, etc.–and understand what they are protecting–all that plus their energy patrimony. I commented on this issue about ten days ago and linked to some very important maps that it appears few bothered to consult. Pay attention to Venezuelan topography and note that its mountains allow for its radars to look-down and thus see low flying cruise missiles. And it’s very likely Russia has provided Venezuela with the ability to detect “stealth” aircraft and related EW systems. Ex-Wagner people are there to aid operations of such equipment. And if Maduro’s team hasn’t learned from the Zionist strikes–to ditch all US-connected phones and such–then they’ll pay for their mistakes. 
 
A question not seen above: What happens when the Outlaw US Empire’s attack fails and it suffers losses?
 

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2025 17:08 utc | 55

Trump is caught between a rock and a hard place of his own making, does he realise it? –  Idk. 
 
He tries to hoist himself up as a PEACE Prez, putting an ‘end’ to conflicts that were not of his making (as he claims about UKR, which was, is, a US project since 1991, he went right along) and at the same time project the US  ‘might and *morally* right power’, via the new WAR Dpt. that is powerful, can-will WIN, and so on. 
 
Why Venezuela is a target, Maduro (hated of course), Oil (taking over the the prod, infrastructure, etc. would surely be impossible, so ?) yet regime change attempt gotta go forward, etc. 
 
For sure all this serves to draw the attention away from the ethnic cleansing (prefer that term to ‘genocide’) in Palestine and war sorties close by (Lebanon, Syria..), as well as the ‘lost’ war in UKR.

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 31 2025 17:09 utc | 56

Col Macgregor told Tucker that Venezuela has as many as 100,000 scattered militia, loyal to Maduro, on the 1300-mile border w/ Colombia and on the 1700-mile border w/ Brazil.
 
Less Grenada and more Ansar Allah in sheer gnarliness.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 31 2025 17:09 utc | 57

A question not seen above: What happens when the Outlaw US Empire’s attack fails and it suffers losses? 
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2025 17:08 utc | 55
 
The last nails in the coffin of empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 17:11 utc | 58

Dont think the Maduro military brass cant be brought off for the right price……if I was Maduro I would be looking for nice real estate in Spain, and quickly too.
All the while Volo makes plans to relocate to Haifa and his ten million dollar condo or to Miami Beach where he also owns a luxury condo complex on the ocean.

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:11 utc | 59

A massive US ground invasion is not in cards.
Selective black ops and selected air strikes targets are in the cards.
Time for Maduro to vacate………..

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:13 utc | 60

typos again in my 53.
What was in those bushes hiding behind that name….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 31 2025 17:14 utc | 61

If the Houthis could shoo the US navy off its coasts, so must Venezuela.

Posted by: Ali Walil | Oct 31 2025 17:16 utc | 62

US efforts to cause a regime change by slowly ramping up pressure isn’t a bad ploy on the face of it and will PROBABLY  work”   – A.z 16

 
Good Point.  After the “big-arrow” success of Langley’s Syrian campaign, while they kept Russia a pre-occupied fighting battles one town at a time it’s going to be hard to convince anyone in DC that Russia is a serious threat.  They’re are but, that’s besides the point.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 31 2025 17:17 utc | 63

😉 You don’t actually believe such silly USA narratives, do you tobias cole? Back in one of my many reincarnations as a short lived wee bird there was this same talk about Noriega and Panama. Namely it came about when Noriega had a serious crack down on cocaine drug running and shipping dropped precipitously. A few months later he was persona non grata, ousted by USA on this laughable pretext, and Panama cocaine shipping exploded back to previous levels and then several times more.
 
 
There’s a pretty good documentary about that time called “The Panama Deception”. In fact the Grayzone recently had a livestream discussing this very same documentary (along with some places where it is likely still hosted for free). I saw it as a wee hatchling in that incarnation and it was quite enlightening, if depressing. Don’t give away your youthful credulity who absolutely do not have your best interests at heart. Return to innocence does not ask you to retire your judgment. 🙂 You can do both.

Posted by: titmouse | Oct 31 2025 17:17 utc | 64

@tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:07 utc | 54

Norwegian – Maduro or his cartel allies have no capacity to sink an entire USN CSG…….keep dreaming….LOL

Just a boat in international waters, there is precedent you know. It could be carrying drugs. Maybe he has some useful tools from Russia or Iran. Or perhaps some really “long range weapons” could be tested.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 31 2025 17:20 utc | 65

A massive US ground invasion of Maduroland is not in the cards…….nor does Trump want emulate the wreakless abandon of the Cheney/Bush fiasco in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This action will be fought with assistance of opposition groups inside Venezula (and their are many) and with SOPC and CIA black ops forces.
The DJT doctrine is to hit hard and fast with no or minimal US losses, unlike the crazed Bush/Cheney neo cons who involved the US in an unwinnable land war in West Asia for over twenty years……….WTH

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:20 utc | 66

Brilliant move, Yankees!
 
I can’t think of a better way to encourage Venezuela to join the relentlessly expanding Russia/China Club.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2025 17:25 utc | 67

@60,
Who the f*** are you to decide when a leader of nation should leave or not?
Are you one of these American rednecks that think Monroe Doctrine gives you the “exceptional right” to put in place whoever you choose in Latin America?
What exactly has Venezuela done to US in its history? Don’t give me the drugs bullshit. Nobody with even 2 functional brain cells would believe that. 

Posted by: JamesBond | Oct 31 2025 17:26 utc | 68

This action will be fought with assistance of opposition groups inside Venezula
 
Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:20 utc | 66
 

 
There aren’t enough Jews in Paraguey to make a difference in Venezuela.
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 31 2025 17:26 utc | 69

Of course it’s a laughable pretext. What does anyone propose to do about it?
 
Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 31 2025 15:55 utc | 8
 
######
 
I propose that no one does anything. It is costing the US dearly to deploy its military abroad. The beast is bleeding out.
 
We will probably have to endure more of these tantrums and freak-outs into and through the next Presidency.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 17:27 utc | 70

titmouse – Yes the Panama invasion was yet another Bush fiasco……………this time its a game of racket up the pressure with goal getting the Maduro regime (last elected with massive voter fraud – sound familiar like 2020?) out and on its was with its stolen billions to somewhere else on the planet.
Maduro is an incompetent……..Venezuela should be the wealthiest country in South America with its oil reserves, instead its a socialist basket case, where even fresh bread is hard to find.  The country will be much better off with Maduro and his corrupt thugs (anyone who actually believe Maduro does not rake millions in kickbacks from the cartels for the use of his ports and airports really needs to get some help and quickly too) to Spain.

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:29 utc | 71

Reuters: Trump says he is not considering strikes within Venezuela

President Donald Trump on Friday denied he was considering strikes inside Venezuela, appearing to contradict his own comments from last week and amid intensifying expectations that Washington may soon expand drug-trafficking-related operations.

On Friday, when asked by reporters on Air Force One if media reports that he was considering strikes within Venezuela were true, Trump said: “No.”

It was not immediately clear if Trump was ruling out future strikes inside Venezuela or simply saying no final decision had been made yet.

Posted by: b | Oct 31 2025 17:32 utc | 72

Col Macgregor told Tucker that Venezuela has as many as 100,000 scattered militia, loyal to Maduro, on the 1300-mile border w/ Colombia and on the 1700-mile border w/ Brazil.
 
Less Grenada and more Ansar Allah in sheer gnarliness.
 
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 31 2025 17:09 utc | 57
 
#######
Yeah, but how many of the Venezuelans are transgender? Is that militia of straight Latin family men really with Maduro, or do they crave the sweet freedom of CIA sodomy, mental illness, and child molestation?
 
We will see… 😂😂😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 17:32 utc | 73

too scents – 69 – yes being cynical is an advantage in world affairs and yes the new “leader” of Venezuela will be a neo con IDF stooge girl – granted that.
However, she could not do any worse than the Maduro clown car could she………..OMGosh ?

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:33 utc | 74

Posted by: b | Oct 31 2025 17:32 utc | 72
 
#######
 
I am old enough to remember when Trump was negotiating with Iran, and 3 days later was cheering for bombing Tehran and assassinating scientists.
 
Is his comment an “official” denial?
 
We all know that official denials are confirmations.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 17:35 utc | 75

Posted by: b | Oct 31 2025 17:32 utc | 72
 
Makes one wonder what was on the manifest of the Russian military jets recently spotted in Venezuela.  

Posted by: frithguild | Oct 31 2025 17:35 utc | 76

Venezuelans might be individually poor, but they also have more to loose collectively than the ‘muricans send there.
Also the terrain is not very favorable for drone strikes , unlike the sea or any least forested country….

Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 31 2025 17:35 utc | 77

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:33 utc | 74
 
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What do you actually know about Venezuela? When were you last in the country?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 17:36 utc | 78

There is a funny (to me) irony of an American Trump supporter calling Maduro’s government a clown car.
 
Self-awareness is so rare.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 17:37 utc | 79

@71,
“Venezuela should be the wealthiest country in South America with its oil reserves, instead its a socialist basket case, where even fresh bread is hard to find”
Talk about audacity. You don’t give a shit about the wellbeing of the people in Venezuela. You care about the resources that US can plunder from there.
Also, talk about incompetence and socialism, US has over 40 million people living on food stamps and things might get ugly next month because of the US induced shutdown, 38 trillion dollar debt, billionaires that have most US politicians in their pocket but yes .. keep talking about other countries and their corruption & incompetence.  

Posted by: JamesBond | Oct 31 2025 17:39 utc | 80

As a regular at the bar, I noticed an influx of disguised Nazi-Fascists intent on destabilizing the normal exchange of thought,

  • one among them: Tobias Cole.

Posted by: Cagliostro | Oct 31 2025 17:42 utc | 81

@ b | Oct 31 2025 17:32 utc | 72
What Trump says carries zero weight as he says the opposite five minutes later. All that matters is what he does. He is currently threatening using the carrier.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 31 2025 17:46 utc | 82

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2025 17:08 utc | 55
 
Not wanting to fall in a trap where thoughts are clouded by wishful thinking, I agree.
 
I think the Maduro government did pay some attention. Venezuela’s President Maduro said his Huawei Mate X6 cannot be hacked by US cyber spies. I doubt the Mate X6 with HarmonyOS is unhackable but at least it’s not a glass house with no doors like Android and iOS phones are. In regards to general (military) communication equipment, I doubt it went through places under US jurisdiction like Canada, Taiwan, … .
If Venezuela survives the initial attack where the US can take benefit of “initiating the attack”, the US will be in for a rough ride.

Posted by: xor | Oct 31 2025 17:47 utc | 83

I don’t have any hope that Congress, with its 535 victims of Two-Party Derangement Syndrome, will have the guts and sense to impeach and remove Trump for the blatantly illegal murders he’s already committed there or the war he’s going to start. I don’t have any hope that the toothless UN Security Council or any other part of the gutless UN will do a damned thing to prevent this war. There’s a slim chance that China or Russia will give Venezuela the ability, under Maduro’s command, to sink that bastard carrier and the bastards on it obeying blatantly illegal orders. That’s about the only thing that could stop this before it gets started.
 
Otherwise, it looks like this will be the first “Venezuela Open Thread” here.

Posted by: Dalit | Oct 31 2025 17:48 utc | 84

Probably hiding their true location because its part of the prep to attack Venezuela.
 
“GPS spoofing noticed across multiple locations around the Caribbean, especially the eastern Venezuelan coast, Trinidad & Tobago, Puerto Rico & the western Venezuelan coast (Maracaibo, Aruba regions).”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 31 2025 17:50 utc | 85

The US has issued this.
 
The FAA issues a NOTAM declaring the airspace over Ceiba, eastern Puerto Rico, a National Defense Airspace, restricting flights from Nov 1, 2025, to Mar 31, 2026 for security reasons. The zone covers José Aponte de la Torre Airport and the former Roosevelt Roads Naval Base.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 31 2025 17:52 utc | 86

The democratically elected president of Venezuela continues to reach out to his allies.
 
 
“Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has sought military support from Russia, China, and Iran amid rising tensions with the U.S. Venezuela has requested aircraft repairs, radar upgrades, missiles, drones, and logistical aid.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 31 2025 17:53 utc | 87

I propose that no one does anything. It is costing the US dearly to deploy its military abroad. 
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 17:27 utc | 70
I’m sure this is just a rhetorical flourish, but …
Venezuela will have to do something about it.  Tens of millions of suffering wage slaves in the US that oppose Imperialism, will have to do something about it.  China and Russia are doing something about it.  
Hard fact is something must be done.  The hardest question for most here who oppose the Zio Imperialists is as Feral stated: what is to be done? 
But nobody likes this uncomfortable question at the bar.  So, we spend our time speculating at what the ruling classes will do about it, which is strategically necessary and interesting, but at a certain point, when things become clear that we are headed to world war with nukes, this speculating reveals itself as old fashioned, impotent Christian stoicism.  It gets dull, frankly.  
 

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2025 17:54 utc | 88

Pre-invasion propaganda by the Yanks? lets hope so.
 
“U.S. sources to the Miami Herald: Maduro is about to find himself trapped and might soon discover that he cannot flee the country even if he decided to. What’s worse for him, there is now more than one general willing to capture and hand him over, fully aware that one thing is to talk about death, and another to see it coming.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 31 2025 17:55 utc | 89

I’m not 100% certain the Venezuelan population will not rise up to fight the Yankees. I’m only 99% certain.
I am 100% certain that if the Yankees invade Venezuela that 100% of Americans – left and right – will rise up against their government.
No more foreign wars!

Posted by: johnf | Oct 31 2025 17:55 utc | 90

the US will be in for a rough ride.
 
Posted by: xor | Oct 31 2025 17:47 utc | 83
 

 
The FARC was not defeated by Colombia’s fascists and their Western allies.
 
Worth noting:

 
Feeding Chaos: Why Air Campaigns Didn’t Defeat the FARC and Won’t Defeat ISIL
 
In a nation torn apart by internal strife and rivalries for power, a terrorist organization emerged in the ungoverned spaces, bent on imposing its extreme ideology on the populace. This group laid out a multi-year plan to take the capital of the country, expand its territory, and recruit tens of thousands of fighters to its banner. In areas where it held power, this organization became the de facto government, dispensing social services and security to the occupied population. Coupled with a robust illicit funding stream, the organization grew and grew in power until it commanded the attention of major western powers and touched off an international struggle to defeat it. While this description could easily apply to the most notorious terrorist organization of today, the Islamic State (ISIL), it does not. Instead, this is a description of the origins of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia, abbreviated FARC in Spanish, a 50-year-old terrorist organization. While not perfect mirrors of one another, understanding the rise and endurance of the FARC, even in the face of massive intervention in Colombia by the United States, sheds useful light on potential ways forward in the struggle against ISIL. Central to this understanding will be the nexus of ungoverned space, radical ideology, and access to illicit funding key to the survival of both the FARC and ISIL. In light of this, efforts to defeat ISIL cannot only consist of kinetic strikes against fighters and funding sources, but must also recognize that separating the group from its funding sources means separating ISIL from the population it oppresses.
 
continues ==> https://www.militarystrategymagazine.com/article/feeding-chaos-why-air-campaigns-didnt-defeat-the-farc-and-wont-defeat-isil/

 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 31 2025 17:55 utc | 91

The US terror state, if this correct is getting ready to attack soon.
 
“The USA has decided to strike military sites inside Venezuela. The Miami Herald reports that airstrikes could begin within days or hours”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 31 2025 17:57 utc | 92

Pentagon APPROVES sending long-range Tomahawk MISSILES to Ukraine — CNN
Won’t ‘negatively impact US stockpiles’
Trump holds the final say

https://t.me/rtnews/118767
 
If so, assisting Venezuela becomes even easier to defend.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 31 2025 17:57 utc | 93

@ tobias cole | Oct 31 2025 17:05 utc | 50
 
Americans are a nation of drug addicts.  One of the richest countries in human history yet yet they’re doped up on meds beyond belief.  The only one  to blame for American drug deaths are the addicts themselves.   Maybe the USA(and all western society) is falling apart because Americans won’t ever take responsibility for their own mistakes.  Trump isn’t the only one always whining about what those mean foreigners do to poor, helpless America.
 
BTW Venezuela isn’t the deadbeat nation carrying a 38 trillion dollar debt.

Posted by: EoinW | Oct 31 2025 17:57 utc | 94

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2025 17:54 utc | 88
 
#######
 
Not “doing something” is doing something. Every day Trump has troops and ships deployed is costing the US irreplacable funds and wear and tear on scarce resources.
 
The longer Venezuela can keep America deployed and Maduro in power is a victory.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 18:04 utc | 95

Hell of a way to deflect focus on Epstein files, who killed Charlie Kirk and the AI bubble about to pop, eh? Start a war…it is the tactic of barbarians.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 31 2025 15:48 utc | 3What do you think covid was?  A once in a lifetime virus (because nothing like that ever happened in your life time) because people in asia were eating bats?  Or a lockdown of the entire economy to avoid a 2008 event on steroids and cocaine?
 
https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/

Posted by: Mr. House | Oct 31 2025 18:09 utc | 96

 puts Venezuela directly “under the wing” of Moscow, and an attack would be a direct confrontation
Posted by: smartfox | Oct 31 2025 15:9 utc | 10
 
That agreement has no military factor, it’s mostly a trade promise like with Iran, empty words on a paper. The only military chapter is with NK, but isn’t much offered if you read the official published info
So if Trumpy wants to bomb Venezuela like he did Iran or Yemen, kill the president, do a little Gaza or whatever, he can do it with zero danger, out of range of the Soviet weapons they have, knowing very well Venezuela is completely alone. Russia will continue to trade with Venezuela after, if Trumpy allows and they pay well, the same way they love now the Syrian headchopper. China and Russia are not “world” anything, at least one of them can’t protect even its own borders.

Posted by: rk | Oct 31 2025 18:09 utc | 97

Posted by: EoinW | Oct 31 2025 17:57 utc | 94
 
######
 
Venezuela is “poor” by OnlyFans/Transgender standards, but it is a beautiful country with lovely and capable people.
 
Its poverty is similar to poverty in Iran and Cuba. Sanctions from the Western Zionist powers limit trade and economic growth. Exactly what BRICS is seeking to overturn.
 
The Venezuelans aren’t poor because they lack resources or desire. They are poor because they have the balls American workers are lacking to take a hard stand and endure the consequences.
 
Sovereignty and freedom come at a price. It is easy to look around the world and see who will talk about it, and who will live it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2025 18:09 utc | 98

There is a reason why the US drug war always focuses on supply and not user.
 
Cocaine is expensive and the high salaried users in Government and Finance run the USA and do not want their supply disrupted – hence the longstanding failure of the “drug war”.
 
The first step in a real war on drugs would be  mandatory drug tests of all involved in Government and Finance.
 
It might improve decision making too.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 31 2025 18:10 utc | 99

Posted by: titmouse | Oct 31 2025 17:17 utc | 64
 
I’m so glad you are back, dear titmouse. I missed you.

Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 31 2025 18:13 utc | 100