Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 23, 2025
Trump Fails To End His Proxy War With Russia

It there any politician who is less reliable than U.S. President Donald Trump?

At the August summit in Anchorage with President Vladimir Putin of Russia Trump had aimed at a ceasefire along the frontline in Ukraine. But Putin made clear that the war required a long term solution of the underlying problem, NATO enlargement, and that a preliminary ceasefire would not be helpful in that regard. Russia also demanded full control of the Donbas and other regions.

Trump did agree to that and announced it as the brilliant result of the talks. This was his first turn on the issue.

But Ukraine’s (former) President Zelenski rejected any retreat from the regions Russia intends to acquire. European politicians, who fear losing the war against Russia, chimed in. Republican war hawks in Congress likewise put pressure on Trump.

A month after the talks in Alaska Trump again changed his position. This was his second turn. He criticized Putin and threatened Russia with new sanctions. Talk about sending Tomahawk cruise missiles to Ukraine crept up.

A day before Zelenski was supposed to visit the White House Putin preemptively intervened by holding a phone call with Donald Trump. There followed another, the third, change in mind. Trump announced that there would soon be another summit. The Kremlin was more cautious with that claim. It said that a summit would need extensive preparation.

The Europeans, Zelenski and Republican hawks immediately renewed their campaign against any agreement with Russia.

A phone call between the Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov followed. After the call any further preparations for another summit were called off.

Trump turned again – the fourth time – and again demanded a ceasefire in Ukraine. The Russians said that this constitutes a breach of the agreements reached during the Anchorage talks.

While Trump nixed any talk of Tomahawks for Ukraine he lifted restriction on Ukraine’s use of long-range missiles (archived) to be fired into Russia:

The unannounced U.S. move to enable Kyiv to use the missile in Russia comes after authority for supporting such attacks was recently transferred from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth at the Pentagon to the top U.S. general in Europe, Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, who also serves as NATO commander.

The U.S. also issued sanctions against two major Russian oil companies (archived) and their subsidiaries:

President Trump announced on Wednesday that he was imposing significant new sanctions on Russia for the first time in his second term, underscoring a new degree of frustration with President Vladimir V. Putin after a plan for the two leaders to meet in Budapest fell apart.

The new sanctions were announced just as the president sat down in the Oval Office with NATO’s secretary general, Mark Rutte, who had flown to Washington on behalf of a coalition of European leaders desperate to keep Mr. Trump on the side of Ukraine.

Mr. Trump’s irritation with the Russian leader was evident on Wednesday. “Every time I speak with Vladimir, I have good conversations, and then they don’t go anywhere,” he said. “They just don’t go anywhere.”

He explained his decision to scupper the Budapest summit that had been planned for some time in the coming weeks. “It just it didn’t feel right to me,” Mr. Trump said. “It didn’t feel like we were going to get to the place we have to get. So I canceled it.”

As for the sanctions?

“I just felt it was the right time,” he said.

On the same day Russia’s President Putin felt it was the right time to test Russia’s nuclear tirade:

“Today, we are conducting a planned – I want to emphasize, planned – nuclear forces command and control exercise,” Putin said in a video conference with the top military brass.

Videos shared by the state-owned military TV channel Zvezda showed the launch of a Yars intercontinental ballistic missile from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in Russia’s north and a Sineva ballistic missile fired from the Bryansk nuclear-powered submarine in the Barents Sea. Tu-95MS long-range bombers also fired air-launched cruise missiles, the defense ministry said.

The new sanctions will, like any before them, have little effect on Russia. Global oil prices will increase and Russia will find ways to market its oil at higher prices.

Sanctions don’t work. The U.S. Government Accountability Office recently found that the U.S. is flying blind and even lacks the means to measure the effect of sanctions it imposes:

U.S. agencies primarily responsible for implementing sanctions and export controls on Russia have not established clearly defined objectives linked to measurable outcomes with targets for their activities. As a result, agencies cannot fully assess progress towards achieving their objectives, thus limiting the U.S. government’s ability to determine the effectiveness of its broader sanctions and export controls efforts related to Russia. This information is crucial for improving current efforts and informing the future use of sanctions and export control.

China has already announced that it rejects any secondary sanctions the U.S. will try to impose as China continues to buy Russian oil. India, which pays for Russian oil in Yuan, will likely react in kind.

The EU just issued its 19th round of sanction against Russia. None of these rounds have influenced Russia while all of them have damaged economies in Europe. As a saying, misattributed to Albert Einstein, goes: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

There is simply no way for the U.S. and/or its European vassals to prevent a Russian victory in Ukraine. To insist on a different outcome will not change the facts on the ground.

As Aaron Maté writes:

When it comes to intransigence, the Beltway’s is not in dispute. The prevailing outlook was captured earlier this year by longtime Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell. “It seems to me pretty obvious that America’s reputation is on the line,” McConnell told Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. “We don’t want a headline at the end of this conflict that says Russia wins and America loses. That’s extremely important if we’re going to continue to play the role in the world that the vast majority of members of Congress think we should still play.”

The alternative to McConnell’s refusal to “lose” is compromise. As Fiona Hill, a Russia expert who served in Trump’s first term, recently put it: the Russians are “always want something they can take to the bank, an agreement they can hold the U.S. to.” In other words, the Russians are interested in diplomacy – a concept foreign to veteran lawmakers and bureaucrats in Washington. If Trump is serious about ending the Ukraine proxy war, he will have to move beyond his ritual back and forth with Zelensky and defy a more powerful obstacle to peace in Washington.

Trump seems to know that he can only end the war with a compromise that will largely give Russia whatever it wants. But lacks the support, will and power to achieve it.

Comments

Posted by: Not Ewe | Oct 24 2025 5:13 utc | 233
 
#######
 
Only to Americans would reality TV be great training for leadership.
 
If you can’t lead, you can simulate it…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 24 2025 14:39 utc | 301

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 14:36 utc | 299
 
######
 
Stop posting.
 
Every post you make is embarrassing.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 24 2025 14:43 utc | 302

Canuks a trump supporter.
You know your over the target by the flack.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 14:54 utc | 303

Where as i dont like trump becouse he is jointly responsable with biden and netinyahoo for mass murder in Gaza and 3 million dead in ukraine and Russia.
 
If that offends  anybody thats on them and their selfish agenda, 

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 15:01 utc | 304

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 14:54 utc | 302
 
######
 
Trump fans are pro-genocide and big fans of Jeffrey Epstein. They ignore or apologize for evil.
 
Everyone has a mother. Some have wives, sisters, and daughters. How MAGAs can support Epstein shows how insane humans can be.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 24 2025 15:05 utc | 305

@ Old Microbiologist | Oct 24 2025 8:27 utc | 245
 
really well said thanks… i wish your post was highlighted for everyone to see.. 

Posted by: james | Oct 24 2025 15:05 utc | 306

Interesting how TDS causes otherwise intelligent people to forget basic truths that they otherwise take for granted. The Murdoch’s WSJ is suddenly believable if it is offering analgesics for one’s mental illness, right? Operation Mockingbird never happened and the CIA is so buddy-buddy with Trump they would never stoop to lying to him about novichoked kids and ducks to manipulate his decisions! Perish the thought!”
 
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 11:46 utc | 271
 
Yes, I agree; not only does TDS block rational thought in otherwise ‘intelligent people’ it lowers their IQ so much (see Mark2, LoveDumbass) that they stop making opposing cogent arguments against people with full formed ideas,  but  stoop to childish, irrelevant  ad hominens.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 15:06 utc | 307

Challenge for readers: Who raised the issue of TDS in this discussion thread?
 
If you guessed Naive you’d be right! Five mentions on the first page of comments alone, followed by TDS_Q_Collins. Nobody else mentioned TDS in the first hundred comments. Nobody.
So who here has the unhealthy obsession? Obviously the individuals who are suffering from the object of their obsession. 
Also, TDS is not merely about disagreeing about Trump. I disagree with many people who don’t have TDS about Trump. With that said, if your contribution to the discussion boils down to “Trump is a poopy-pants! I really hate Trump and everyone who voted for him!” then you may have a disorder that is impairing your capacity for rational thought. 
Note: I have never voted for Trump, contributed to his campaigns, or even attended any of his rallies. Likewise I have never advised anyone to vote for Trump. A rather unusual “Trump supporter”, wouldn’t you say? But to a TDS victim anyone who doesn’t also have a pathological hatred/fear/panic response to Trump must be a Trump supporter. TDS is a disease like that. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 15:06 utc | 308

@306 
 
you and gruff are not MAGA!
 
you two are trumpophil neocon zionazi

Posted by: paddy | Oct 24 2025 15:09 utc | 309

Gruff @ 307
See my @ 307

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 15:11 utc | 310

Typo….
See my @ 303

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 15:15 utc | 311

If it were just an empty insult; a meaningless label like calling working class people deplorables”, then why get worked up over it? Wear it like a badge of honor bestowed by your supposed adversaries like the working class “deplorables” do with the label your team coined for them.
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 12:27 utc | 277

You are creating a false dichotomy. Either you see Trump as a person hard at work to change a bad and powerful system that resists change or if you don’t believe that story you have TDS. 
 
There certainly are millions of Americans that have TDS. This gives Trump enormous power over these people. Trump says “don’t jump” and the TDS crowd all immediately jump without giving it a second thought that they might be standing on the edge of a cliff.
 
For example, Trump successfully  got the TDS crowd to support Ukraine in its war against the Russian people. The TDS morons eagerly supported the first impeachment of Trump in 2019.  If you remember, there were two elements to the 2019  charges against Trump:
1) that he had illegally withheld shipment of lethal weapons to Ukraine
2) that he had  used his powers to illegally assault his chief rival Biden. 
It is only because of TDS that the vast majority of Americans completely overlooked the obvious:
1) that Ukraine was intending to use those weapons to kill its own citizens (this was never mentioned)
2) since when was a doddering old man with dementia Trump’s chief rival? ans: Ever since Trump attacked him as if he was. 

In an instant Trump had successfully convinced the TDS fools  without question that Ukraine was a noble cause and that Biden was a viable candidate. 
Not in a million years could anyone else convince so many of such foolish beliefs. 
 
So yes, TDS is very real. It represents the power Trump has over the majority which Trump uses for the benefit of the oligarchy. 
 

 

Posted by: jinn | Oct 24 2025 15:19 utc | 312

Regarding Gilbert Doctorow, first all of his articles are behind a paywall, so can’t read.  Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor because they had no resources of oil, gas, and other critical materials in their own country. Their stored oil and fuels would run out in six months.  The Japanese knew they could not win against the US in a long conflict, so they chose to strike fast and hard, hoping to push the US navies out of the region, and take over the Philippines, Malaysia, and other areas that had the resources they needed.
 
Russia is autarkic in having all the resources they need to sustain their own economy, as well as the technologies and well trained and educated people to thrive, not just survive.  So the shoe is on the other foot, with the US and other countries in the West running out of their critical resource, $$$s that can buy whatever they want or need.  The problem is that other countries don’t want to use their paper anymore, and are starting to trade with each other in their own currencies, avoiding the dollar like the plague.  When the US confiscated Russia’s dollar assets they effectively signed their own death warrant, telling people not to get in the position where the US could say to them, “You F**ked up,  you trusted us”.  
 
It is the US and their allies and vassal states that are panicking, not Russia. All the attacks on Russian soil are only soiling their own reputation, and rapidly vaporizing the mirage of US military invincibility in conventional warfare.  The war in Ukraine IS Russia vs. the USA, make no mistake, and the USA is losing BADLY.  This is intolerable for maintaining the US hegemony over the world, and must be stopped.  Unfortunately, it can only be stopped by the using nuclear weapons, to gazacide Russia. 
 
The USA cannot conduct a first strike against Russia for two reasons.  One, it will fail to destroy Russia, and the counterstrike by Russia will destroy the USA.  Two, it would cause the rest of the world to ostracize the USA, and they would not assist to rebuild or help the USA after a nuclear conflagration.
 
So their only options left is to terrorize Russia and its allies to the point that Russia would attack major military sites in Europe and/or the USA and its allies, thus supporting the “Russia is all  bad, evil, demonic” to enable a nuclear attack on Russia. Then the USA would have support for the rest of the world because, “Russia started it”, or to false flag a nuclear weapons strike somewhere in Europe; then bring all the allies and vassals to a foaming at the mouth war against Russia by conventional means. 
 
Russia is not taking the bait, as Russia is WINNING, and it becomes harder and harder for the USA and it’s allies to keep pitching the opposite.  Turn up the noise level, rant and rave, snort, kick up dirt, whatever.  It’s just the sound of fury without any real fight behind it.
 
If the USA could ever have defeated Russia in war, the 1990’s was the time to do it.  But they were convinced they had the prize in hand after the breakup of the USSR in the 90’s without shedding blood in war. Why and how they blew it, I don’t know.  They also had the chance achieve world peace at that time, and shutting down NATO, because Russia was the main reason for NATO’s existence. (The real reason for NATO was to dominate Europe, and build up forces to defeat Russia).  A colossal failure is in the making, and coming to a conclusion in the not to distant future. 
 
So if this is a Pearl Harbor moment approaching, it is the USA that is the Japan of the 1940-41 who will make a grave mistake by attacking Russia to provoke an all out war.  Instead of oil, the critical element the USA is at risk of losing is the dollar as world reserve currency, which enables it to fund endless wars; not to win victory but to produce profits. Victory means destruction of other countries economies and societies. 
 
One of Trump’s favorite sayings is “Peace through Strength”. 
In reality, the truth is “Submit or be Destroyed. 
 
 

Posted by: Norsk Borscht | Oct 24 2025 15:25 utc | 313

Jinn  @ 311
Gaza ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 15:26 utc | 314

“@306  you and gruff are not MAGA! you two are trumpophil neocon zionazi”
 
Posted by: paddy | Oct 24 2025 15:09 utc | 308
 
Another moron who will not put up well thought out arguments on the subject at hand yet rather slither into barely comprehensible yet  nasty ad  hominens like the simp above.
 
It would make these tedious posts more interesting if the simple minded (see paddy, LoveDumbass and Mark2) could find another more interesting Evil trope than the banal ‘zionazi’-it is so, so ….. “Intellectually White Trashy ‘(‘IWT”,TM)

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 15:28 utc | 315

Gaza ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 15:26 utc | 313
 
What about Gaza?

Posted by: jinn | Oct 24 2025 15:29 utc | 316

jinn @311: “The bad Orange Man made me do bad things!”
 
LMAO! OK, Mini-Me for Louis Proyect lite!

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 15:33 utc | 317

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 15:28 utc | 314
 
#######
 
You’re still posting…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 24 2025 15:33 utc | 318

Now that I’m 70, I’m acutely aware of how little time I have left. Grateful to have survived combat as a conscripted soldier in an African war, I want to spend my remaining days reading interesting and illuminating commentaries by posters who are literate, informed, often witty and always relevant. Such posters include, but are not limited to, karlof1, james, Norwegian, bevin, Republicofscotland and Dungroaning. There are others so apologies if not mentioned.
 
So, what would be really useful, would be to see the poster’s identity at the top of their post rather than to have to trawl through a mass of messages which are frequently irrelevant, often anti-semitic, Modern Monetary Theory fetishists, keyboard soldiers who have never been in anything worse than a playground slap for playtime sweeties calling for nuclear war.
 
You know who you are so I don’t need to name you (and that includes the unfunny little green man)
 
Am I asking for too much? (rhetorical)

Posted by: Vragtes | Oct 24 2025 15:34 utc | 319

@314
 
meh with a most condescending smirk

Posted by: paddy | Oct 24 2025 15:44 utc | 320

“Regarding Gilbert Doctorow, first all of his articles are behind a paywall, so can’t read.  Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor because they had no resources of oil, gas, and other critical materials in their own country. Their stored oil and fuels would run out in six months.  The Japanese knew they could not win against the US in a long conflict, so they chose to strike fast and hard, hoping to push the US navies out of the region, and take over the Philippines, Malaysia, and other areas that had the resources they needed.”
 
Posted by: Norsk Borscht | Oct 24 2025 15:25 utc | 312
 
In fact the 1941  Pearl Harbor strike was actually the 2nd Pearl Harbor done by Japan: Japan surprise attacked the Russians in 1904 and prevailed. 

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 15:49 utc | 321

Jinn @ 315 
See my @ 290

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 15:53 utc | 322

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 14:23 utc | 296 
Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 14:28 utc | 298
 
Thank you, both of you. You are good people, with good arguments & perspectives.

Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 24 2025 16:01 utc | 323

#174 c1ue-thanks  for your comment…good observation do you reside in the USA???

Posted by: sejmon | Oct 24 2025 16:17 utc | 324

Trump is weak, stupid and easily manipulated. 
You may recall his sad attempts to end the War On Afghanistan, when he could have ended the war immediately. Afghanistan ended up Trump’s war.

  1. Russia now is Trump’s war as well.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Oct 24 2025 16:35 utc | 325

@Norsk Borscht | Oct 24 2025 15:25 utc.
 
Thank you, Norsk Borscht for that excellent post. I think you’ve done a great job of setting out the logic of attrition warfare by Russia. As I’ve said on several occasions, up until a few months ago, I’d have agreed with everything you stated.
 
What’s different?
 
a. EU is gearing up for war; they are actively, quickly moving to war-time economy
 
b. War-monger elites control money supply, comm channels (media), and the gov’t, with no apparent means to change those key control points. Control of money supply means they can fund war-making. Print money, austerity, shift spending to “defense” – all eminently possible absent massive bottom-up revolt. Media and gov’t (police, judiciary) control prevents bottom-up revolt
 
c. The provocations are becoming more effective, and left un-answered, may become very damaging. Left unanswered, those “provocations” will surely become crippling. That’s the strategy, and UK-EU-US has the wherewithal to make that happen.
 
d. Russia is winning in Ukraine, but not elsewhere along the UK-EU-US ‘line of contact’. The strategy all along was and still is  to use Ukraine as battering ram. Ukraine was a known “lost cause” from the outset, but it would, and did, bleed Russia. That is an expensive war for Russia.
 
So I see no current reason why EU et. al. can’t continue to bleed Russia. The Ukraine chapter is closing, but neither closed nor does a military victory there address or begin to end the larger conflict.
 
If you are correct, and Russia is winning the economic and political war – e.g. attrition is truly wearing EU down, we’d be seeing a great deal more public outcry, we’d see new political parties and political figures garnering massive support. We’d see protest-strikes, walk-outs, etc. That doesn’t seem to be happening. Instead what we’re seeing is Goering-redux, wherein Russia is _already_ painted as aggressor, “defense” _already_ the selected response. 
 
I emphasize “already”. How does Russia address this reality via more go-slo, Ukraine-focused activity?
 
I am not seeing evidence that the go-slow strategy is actually working. If Doctorow’s reporting is accurate, Russians aren’t seeing it as working either.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 24 2025 16:37 utc | 326

A blast of straight common sense from that Galloway/Macgregor video:-
 
INTERVIEW: The problem is that we continually grossly underestimate Russian military power
 
Galloway needs no explaining.  Lord knows what his politics are but his fiery defence before the Senate sub-committee way back showed what he’s made of.  And he doesn’t mess around when looking at the effects of what must be the most disastrous period of British foreign policy since the 177o’s.  We screwed up then – it would have been far better for the colonists had we not let them try to run before they could walk – and we’re screwing up even worse now.
 
Macgregor is one of the Great Americans.  Proof that even the colonists can produce the goods when they’re put to it.  If you look at the history of the earlier British Empire you’ll see that English foreign policy has seldom been directed at improving the lot of the English, let alone that of the Scots or the Irish or the Welsh.  Close examination of the early period of our Indian empire shows time and time again that our foreign policy was invariably directed at improving the lot of a smallish group of entrepreneurs and monopolists.  Just that they had the ear of the politicians and the Mr and Mrs Average of the time didn’t.
 
Nor do they now.  That’s the point Macgregor hammers home again and again.  We don’t need complicated theories about great xyz conspiracies to explain what the politicians are up to, nor competing abc theories either.  Just that if you can give the politicians vast sums of money to help them get elected, and maybe a little over for the politicians themselves, they’ll do what you want and not what “We the people” want.
 
Not that “We the people” take much interest in foreign policy in any case.  In a fairly  large circle of acquaintances in Germany and England I know none who have the faintest idea of what was happening in the Donbass before ’22.   None.   If that’s a fair sample and I believe it is, then we’re fair game for whatever nonsense the politicians and their press care to feed us about the war with Russia.  And what they care to feed us is determined by who has their ear: the relatively small circle of corporation lobbyists and oligarchs who sway our foreign policy in accordance with their interests and not ours.
 
Worse than that.  These people in that small circle are plain dumb.  I’ve never in my life seen such an incompetent muddle –  economic, political, military –  as the recent assault on Russia.  These are people who are not just vicious.  They’re people who couldn’t put one foot in front of the other without intensive coaching.   The resultant shambles  explored by Galloway and Macgregor in the video.  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we6NrOpyFiM  
 
 
 
   
 

Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 24 2025 16:46 utc | 327

@326 English Outsider
 
I second what you said about how little people know about what happened in Ukraine before the SMO.  Or what is happening in Northwest Africa, or even heard of Burkina Faso.
 
This explains why there are Americans that think that Ukraine is winning.  It’s one thing to theorize and believe that European militarization will produce an army capable of defeating Russia.  I do not think this is possible at this time, but it is not entirely out of the realm of being possible.  But to believe that Ukraine is winning shows a complete detachment from reality.  Both Biden and Trump take full advantage of the willful complete detachment from reality that a huge majority of Americans have.  (well the Biden administration when Biden was in office, the Trump administration now.  Or whoever is making the decisions FOR them.)
 
General Rules:  Bad information tends to lead to bad results.  GIGO.  Believing your own lies is the road to disaster. 
        

Posted by: Woke American | Oct 24 2025 17:21 utc | 328

EU is gearing up for war; they are actively, quickly moving to war-time economy

 
I’ve seen no evidence of this. Of course, I’m not in the EU, so that is not surprising, but if this is really happening I would be grateful for links to any evidence of quick economic development occurring in the EU. Not bombastic bloviating in Brussels, but workers actually bending metal. 
Thanks in advance. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 17:35 utc | 329

I think the real problem with TDS is the D for derangement, it allows those seemingly afflicted with an easy, emotion-based, counter argument. If derangement is however replaced with dissonance I think it’s a more accurate diagnosis of the problem the syndrome causes (though perhaps Trump is just interchangeable and the syndrome is simply classic dissonance).
 
 
Trump is a, b and c, Trump acts in a way that is contrary to a, b or c, so the syndrome both manufacturers a solution, whilst ignoring contrary evidence. Like all those subject to specific  dissonance’s* the longer the fantasy version exists the more convoluted and manipulated the supportive evidence has to be, or is increasingly ignored. 
 
*my wayward predictive text decided to substitute dissonances for disco aces, which is quite accurate really, if we are talking about fragile and strutting egos. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Milites | Oct 24 2025 17:45 utc | 330

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 17:35 utc | 329

The allegation of EU preparing for war is strange. Wherever you look, you see closing/shrinking factories and sacking of skilled workers. The manufacturing knowledge is slowly withering away while tax money is squandered mostly to over priced US MIC enterprises and select few European MIC enterprises who are unable to provide much. 
At this rate it will take 15 years to replace what Nato lost in Ukraine, and as long as Ukraine war continues the time will just increase.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 24 2025 17:45 utc | 331

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 17:35 utc | 329
There’s no evidence, and if the price of the choccie biscuits I bought today is anything to go by then even supplying the tiny standing army, we now field, with ‘Not for civilians’ Yorkie bars would bankrupt the state!
 
Too many lefties are happily buying into the increasingly ridiculous European rhetoric about moves towards a war footing,  that they usually instantly dismiss about other matters, simply because it’s politically convenient. So, no change there. 

Posted by: Milites | Oct 24 2025 17:51 utc | 332

@English Outsider | Oct 24 2025 16:46 utc
@Woke American | Oct 24 2025 17:21 utc
Thank you for those excellent points; you have ID’d exactly what concerns me most about the situation the West’s _people_ are in:
a. We’re thoroughly controlled by psycho- or sociopaths and
b. The vast, vast majority has no idea of their situation. Million miles away from decisive action
c. The sociopathic, Empire echo-chamber is totally drunk on their own stories
 
There’s no off-ramp, unless and until:
a. The elites get their head busted with a 2×4, and concomitantly, 
b. The public (who will take the brunt of it) figures out, and fast, why it actually happened
 
Russia can do a), but the danger we all see is that elites double-down again, and the public gets Goering-ed again. So Russia has to do one hell of a good a) . 
 
I think the “what’s that a)” gonna look like, should look like is a worthy topic of discussion.
 
Lastly, I’d like to point out, EO, that you’re a highly esteemed poster, a person of great emotional and intellectual development. Naturally you’d eschew the “hot-head” alternative, anyone sensible would. 
 
I’m not sure Russia is being left with a whole lot of choice, and this is by design.
 

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 24 2025 17:54 utc | 333

Thanks unimperator @331, Milites @332. I thought perhaps I was missing some very important development, but I guess not.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 17:58 utc | 334

“Only to Americans would reality TV be great training for leadership. If you can’t lead, you can simulate it…
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 24 2025”
 
That distant second being held by Zelensky.
Quit hating murkins, Dumbass.
your routine is well past sell by.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Oct 24 2025 18:24 utc | 335

@William Gruff, Milites who question whether EU economy is shifting to war footing:
 
How EU will pay for defense spending:

FISCAL LEEWAY IN EU SPENDING RULES
The Commission proposed that defence spending be exempt from EU laws that put annual spending limits on governments to protect EU public finances and the value of the euro currency. The exemption will be valid for four years, starting in 2025, with each year allowing 1.5% of GDP of extra spending.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/europes-plans-pay-surge-defence-spending-2025-03-19/
 
EU defense spending increases:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/europes-plans-pay-surge-defence-spending-2025-03-19/
 
Germany ready for war with Russia by 2029:
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-must-be-ready-for-war-by-2029-defense-minister-warns/
 
Russia is ready to attack Germany! (the “Goering-redux” Wurlitzer)
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/germany/2025/germany-250912-presstv01.htm
 
German auto plants repurposed for military production
https://defensemirror.com/news/39056/German_Auto_Companies_Repurposing_Car_Plants_for_Defense_Equipment_Production
https://www.nzz.ch/english/germany-shifts-gears-as-auto-slump-meets-defense-boom-ld.1880315
 
The View from the Empire re: EU can tackle Russia!
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/the-future-of-european-defense
 
EU Defense Readiness 2030 Official Position Paper
https://commission.europa.eu/document/download/e6d5db69-e0ab-4bec-9dc0-3867b4373019_en?filename=White%20paper%20for%20European%20defence%20%E2%80%93%20Readiness%202030.pdf&prefLang=de

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 24 2025 18:32 utc | 336

“That distant second being held by Zelensky.Quit hating murkins, Dumbass.your routine is well past sell by.”
 
Posted by: Not Ewe | Oct 24 2025 18:24 utc | 335
 
I second that motion.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 18:36 utc | 337

So you would rather have a corrupt, deep state, globalist fraud like Hillary Clinton, or Pedofile Bill or an anarchist like Hussein Obama in charge?
No thanks!

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 24 2025 18:40 utc | 338

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 24 2025 17:45 utc | 331
Best post I have read today, thanks.
 
However, in Europe’s defence if you are holding a pair of nines bluffing becomes the only  strategy….

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 18:40 utc | 339

Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 24 2025 16:46 utc | 327
 
Thank you so much for this.
 
I know nobody who has the slightest idea of anything that happened in Ukraine before the SMO. Therefore, they all believe the propaganda about first “unprovoked” and then “full-scaled”. Because the west is undeniably winning the propaganda war (which, luckily, has nothing to do with the real war) they are also immune to any real information.
 
You open your mouth, you’re a “Putin friend”.

Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 24 2025 18:41 utc | 340

Re:
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 24 2025 | 14:22 utc | 295

On Gilbert Doctorow’s piece:
“The Pearl Harbor moment may be approaching”
@ https://gilbertdoctorow.substack.com/p/the-pearl-harbor-moment-may-be-approaching

As the Good Book admonished all:
“He who has ear [all senses] let him hear”.

The inconvenient truth is that all signs of an all-out aggression are everywhere in and around Russia such that the blind can see; the deaf can hear; the dumb can speak; and even a moron can understand well!

Right now the message of “strategic defeat of Russia” is so expressed in words and deeds loudly. Only an ACUTE DELUSION OF GRANDEUR or A MISCHIEVOUS COMPLICITY WITH THE AVOWED RUSSIA ENEMY-COALITION by the Kremlin leadership could explain any continued battlefield-restraint beyond the Ukraine war theatre. If the Kremlin is banking on certain allies to join on Russia’s side when this imminent wider war erupts is clearly poor judgment. I bet , except Belarus & North Korea, no other Russia-friendly country like China or Iran will dare directly join for Russia. National (geopolitical and economic) interests will override their declared support for a multipolar world devoid of hegemony and neocolonialism. The current cases of Hungary-Slovakia compromises for those illegal anti-Russian EU sanctions and Venezuela’s under-pressure-offer to US to almost economically decouple from Russia & China are all lessons that self-interest becomes an overriding consideration when threats turn existential.

Right now, all hostility dark clouds have almost enveloped Russia. It is either the current Kremlin leadership or the Russians themselves (however-they-choose) rise to the occasion now and do the needful. Continued SLOW-ATTRITION STRATEGY automatically operates to aid whatever weak-spot the US-NATO-EU Killer-Coalition may have at the point of executing their devastating siege on Russia. The caveat is: UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY TO YOUR PERIL.

So, I hereby paraphrase that Gilbert Doctorow’s piece as – The Pearl Harbor moment IS NOW.

Thus, a stitch in time saves _ the world an Amargeddon!

Posted by: cegnoveltyesq | Oct 24 2025 18:43 utc | 341

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 24 2025 18:40 utc | 337
 
Thanks for the reality check.
 

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 18:44 utc | 342

The EU and the UK has outsourced all their heavy industries to East Asia – the Brits stupidly closed all their coal mines, coal generating stations and only have one steel mill left in operation.
They have mothballed the H and W shipbuilding works in Belfast, and had RN ship built in Korean.
The EU and the UK are paper tigers now, completely or nearly bankrupt – the RF would make quick work of them, but have no desire to do so.
This war will be over in 90 days and DJT knows it…….he merely saving face now with some useless sanctions easily evaded, and dodging the coming question “Who lost Kieve” ? 

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 24 2025 18:45 utc | 343

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 15:33 utc | 317  Putting quotation marks around statements that aren’t quotations is called, lying. 
 
But let me play the Fake Quote game?  Witless Guff: “Trump had every right to stop the war in Ukraine by freezing weapons deliveries regardless of previous policy or even regardless of congressional appropriation! And he doesn’t do that now because the tiny woke minority in the PMC has TDS!” 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 24 2025 18:46 utc | 344

Sorry for the typo – that reads “and has had RN ships built in South Korea”…..many thanks.

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 24 2025 18:47 utc | 345

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 15:06 utc | 308
Challenge for readers: Who raised the issue of TDS in this discussion thread?If you guessed Naive you’d be right!
 
Outright lie, Mister Liar.
 
The first one who raised the issue was not me.

where are c1ue and william gruff, to come to trumps rescue?? 
Posted by: james | Oct 23 2025 19:24 utc | 101

 
Gruff again:
Five mentions on the first page of comments alone, followed by TDS_Q_Collins. Nobody else mentioned TDS in the first hundred comments. Nobody.
 
On the first page, no comment from me. Nor from Collins.
I will be waiting the excuses of Mister Liar.
 
Gruff again:
I have never voted for Trump, contributed to his campaigns, or even attended any of his rallies. Likewise I have never advised anyone to vote for Trump.
 
Does Gruff want to tell us that he has no life outside the bar? Maybe, it is not my problem, but I also know that Gruff can be lying like the examples above demonstrate.
 
What is sure is that – as everone knows it – Gruff is suppporting Trump at the bar. Time and again. The last sample (#137 above):
I suppose the best outcome is if Trump can keep heading off the neolibcons’ efforts to escalate to Armageddon; “waffling” as some prefer to see it, but in actuality kicking the can down the road and buying time… time in which we remain alive and not reduced to radioactive ash.
 
As if Trump is not a tool of the “neolibcons”…, as if Trump is not owned by Mileikovsky and the judeonazis and the aipac.
 
Gruff again:
But to a TDS victim anyone who doesn’t also have a pathological hatred/fear/panic response to Trump must be a Trump supporter.
 
And now strawman fallacies to be added to Gruff’s lies and other fallacies. And the one being in panic and fear is the one mentionning Armageddon and time in which we remain alive and not reduced to radioactive ash. (#137 above)
Hatred, panic and fear are not useful. Gruff can look himself in the mirror.
 
B wrote:
It there any politician who is less reliable than U.S. President Donald Trump?
So… B is criticising Trump. And I was wondering – following James – if Gruff will dare to criticise B for criticising Trump.
So far, I am still wondering, but less and less.
 
We know that Biden has Alzheimer and Parkinson and now cancer, we know that Trump is a megalomaniac and narcissistic psychopath and a liar. I keep wondering who could admire such personality or give him any credit… Disorder, disorder, disorder, did someone said disorder…?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 18:49 utc | 346

canuk 341 or God help us and save us all ……….Kamyhoe Harris………in the depths of doubt one can not even imagine such a mindless figure as head of the Republic……but of course we did have Joe Boy Biden for four years, a man lost in his own closet !

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 24 2025 18:53 utc | 347

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 15:06 utc | 308
followed by TDS_Q_Collins.
 
For changing Tom_Q_Collins to TDS_Q_Collins it shows who is full of hatred and who is ready to insult everyone not agreeing with him about Trump.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 18:57 utc | 348

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 24 2025 18:53 utc | 346
 
Well, Trump isn’t exactly Pericles but way above Harris, Clinton, Schumer,  Schiff and whomever unelected person whom had the auto-pen, not Biden -was even worse.
 
Realists, like ourselves, realize that Trump is the best bet considering the ‘competition’.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 18:59 utc | 349

“Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 15:06 utc | 308followed by TDS_Q_Collins.
 For changing Tom_Q_Collins to TDS_Q_Collins it shows who is full of hatred and who is ready to insult everyone not agreeing with him about Trump.”
 
Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 18:57 utc | 347
 
I found it playfully humourous; studies indicate that those suffering from TDS lose thier sense of humour.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 19:01 utc | 350

Another moron who will not put up well thought out arguments on the subject at hand yet rather slither into barely comprehensible yet  nasty ad  hominens like the simp above. Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 15:28 utc | 315
 
And another one who does not understand the difference between ad hominem and ad personam. I already know that the education on the other side of the Atlantic is poor, but to this point it is really frightening. It make people very easy to manipulate. Numerous examples.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 19:01 utc | 351

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 19:01 utc | 349
 
Confusing insult and humour is typical of the fascists.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 19:12 utc | 352

studies indicate that those suffering from TDS lose thier sense of humour.
Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 19:01 utc | 349
 
By the way, as you are referencing studies, will you be so kind as to give the links to such studies?
 
For I guess that you are not lying about those studies, aren’t you?

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 19:17 utc | 353

@348
 
trump is carrying zelenski, likee those you list or better.
 
Those you list did not lie about the support for zelenski the unemployed dictator.

Posted by: paddy | Oct 24 2025 19:18 utc | 354

Tragic TDS victim @345: “On the first page, no comment from me. Nor from Collins.”
 
Yep, you’re right. It was the second page of comments before you were the first person in the thread to mention your disease, TDS. You were the first and most prolific poster referencing TDS. 
 
“And the one being in panic and fear is the one mentionning Armageddon”
 
Nope, I’m not afraid of Armageddon. That is just one of the possible ways my existence will end, and I’m close enough to that end anyway to not be afraid of it. I’ve done everything on my bucket list except save the world, so no regrets. Armageddon would actually be a very interesting, if not very pleasant, end, though I hope things don’t go that way. It would make things difficult for my daughters, even though they are in different hemisphere of the planet from where the bulk of the action would go down.
 
“B is criticising Trump. And I was wondering – following James – if Gruff will dare to criticise B for criticising Trump.”
 
I have no problem with criticism of Trump. That you imagine I would have a problem is precisely what I was talking about when I said “But to a TDS victim anyone who doesn’t also have a pathological hatred/fear/panic response to Trump must be a Trump supporter.” To a TDS victim, my lack of concern for our host’s criticism of Trump could only be an act; a lie; clever subterfuge. In your demented mind, I must actually be quietly raging at our host for saying uncomplimentary things about Trump. Back in the real world where I (and our host) exist I am completely unconcerned. 
 
But if it is important to you to imagine that I am a secret Trump super-supporter who is infuriated with our host, then by all means continue believing that. That would only be an insignificant addition to the delusion you live within and your delusions matter not at all to me.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 19:22 utc | 355

That would only be an insignificant addition to the delusion you live within and your delusions matter not at all to me.
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 19:22 utc | 354
 
Fucking liar! Of course, it matters a lot to you, because you go on and on insulting people with this fake “tds” and other fallacies.
 
I have no problem with criticism of Trump.
And anothe lie…
 
But OK, I understand you better, and what I was supposing came true.
 
Sometimes old age is a shipwreck. Thanks for the demonstation.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 19:39 utc | 356

Realists, like ourselves, realize that Trump is the best bet considering the ‘competition’.
Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 18:59 utc | 348
 
Just LOL!
 
As if it is the showman who takes decisions…
 
As if the one elected as President will change anything.
 
Si voter changeait quelque chose, il y a longtemps que ça serait interdit.
Coluche.
 
And now we have a case of VDS. One!
V for vote.
D for delusion.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 19:48 utc | 357

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 19:22 utc | 354  This comment is BS. First, Witless Guff is a demented Trump supporter operating on the assumption that the best defense is offense. He insists on shrieking TDS because TDS means the target is accused of being any number of vile anti-Trumpian things, Democrats first and foremost, woke, Second, Witless Guff is a bully and like many bullies is afraid of confronting someone stronger. In this case, that’s our host, who can ban him. Third, even Witless Guff knows that you take the win. Our host ended this post which started out as a criticism of Trump but ended with the claim that Trump, who routinely ignores all manner of laws and customs, somehow lacks the power and support to end the war against Russia in the Ukrainian theater. Why would Witless Guff, a Trump supporter, refuse to accept a freely proffered apology for Trump’s actions, that blame presumably insufficiently Trumpist politicians? 
 
 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 24 2025 19:58 utc | 358

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 18:59 utc | 348
Cometh the hour, cometh the man. Trump’s exactly what the US needs now because he operates outside the artificial constructs that are ignored by the Left, (plus Uniparty RINO club members), whilst simultaneously exploited by them. Pericles operated in a socio-political framework that benefited the State of Athens, critics of Trump are aghast he’s not following a code that only benefits his enemies. The screaming tantrums, hyperbolic descriptors and hatred all stem from this fear that the Left are facing an opponent who does not get bogged down in their defences, but simply tears through them. 
 
There’s a greater fear though, which sometimes is echoed here, that Trump’s approach is, and will be proven to be, largely correct and that the self-appointed, self-anointed experts and guardians of the narrative (be it UniParty, Leftist etc) will be the ones revealed to have been the ignorant charlatans and their supporter’s the gullible dupes. Which might explain the levels of projection involved in any analysis or criticism directed at him and the MAGA movement. 
 
 

Posted by: Milites | Oct 24 2025 20:28 utc | 359

Naive @355: “Of course, it matters a lot to you, because you go on and on insulting people…”
 
As I said, if it is so important to you to believe the delusion, then by all mean continue. I will say, though it will be impossible for anyone as deeply afflicted as yourself to acknowledge it, that my intention is not to “insult” anyone, but rather to help victims recover. 
 
Yes, I know some traumatic stress disorder victims never recover. Some veterans will always fly into fight/flight mode whenever a car backfires or a firecracker is lit, and some TDS victims may forever lose their minds whenever Trump is mentioned in conversation, but some will recover. OK, probably not Naive, or TDS_Q_Collins, or Louis Proyect lite, but some will recover and at some point in the future be able to discuss Trump rationally and without the fight/flight impulse driving their behavior.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 20:32 utc | 360

The trump supporters seem very upset (flack)
 
It’s Friday night so they will be drinking ,  from experence i tend to leave them to it for the whole weekend.
Dont they have family ?
 
They certaimly have never in the past 12 years shown ‘genuine’  respect for b or his commenters.
 
This last mob  planned todays drone strike here a week ago . saying the “ring leaders of the  left should  be crushed like a bug” i qoute gruff.
 
Niave has unknowingly walked into their digusting premedatated bully trap.
 
They tell us more about the true nature of trump and his fascist supporters.  Thats fine by me.
 
Oh and what about Gaza you fuckers.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 21:00 utc | 361

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 19:48 utc | 356
 
Obviously, you are not of the realist school; you are of the delusional school.
 
In the future may I suggest instead of mocking, insulting the other  side of the argument why not put down your ideas whom should be leading the US at this time?
 
I assume you would prefer Kamala; kindly please explain why?
 

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 21:15 utc | 362

Posted by: lachaussette | Oct 24 2025 13:59 utc | 293
It’s English. Probably for domestic use in the UK. Kinda falls apart after this:

narco-führer in england, the real birthplace of nazism or whatever you want to call this ideology that they use to destabilize continental europe.

Posted by: J | Oct 24 2025 12:37 utc | 280

Posted by: joey_n | Oct 24 2025 21:17 utc | 363

Posted by: Milites | Oct 24 2025 20:28 utc | 358
 
I get your pitch.
 
Trump situation is similar what Leo Tolstoy mused in his preface to, ‘War and Peace (1869?).
 
“If Napoleon hadn’t existed ,France would have to invent him”
 
 
Insert Trump and America.
 
 

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 21:18 utc | 364

Canuk @ 361
Vladimir Putin for president of America or maybe Lavrov.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 21:23 utc | 365

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 24 2025 21:23 utc | 364
 
You have confirmed that you are a steadfast member of the delusional school; thanks for playing.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 21:31 utc | 366

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 20:32 utc | 359
 
OK! Your last comment made me laugh like seldom. You are the kind of people who thinks he is always right.
 
In fact, you are mad. Completely. Thanks for showing so clearly your true nature.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 21:55 utc | 367

“If Napoleon hadn’t existed ,France would have to invent him”Insert Trump and America.Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 21:18 utc | 363
 
Very good comparison indeed!
 
Napoleon was a nightmare for France and for Europe at that time.
So that the comparison with Trump works perfectly. Thanks!
 
Also Nietzsche was an admirer of Napoleon. According to Nietzsche, war is a necessity. As well as a united Europe to destroy Russia.
Hitler read Nietzsche. A cast society mit Uebermenschen.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 22:01 utc | 368

I assume you would prefer Kamala; kindly please explain why? Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 21:15 utc | 361
 
Obviously you did not read my comment #356…
 
Or are you so stupid as to not understand what I wrote?
 
Oh I see, I wrote a quote in French and like most yankees you know only one language…
 
I pity you.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 22:06 utc | 369

Posted by: Moscow Exile | Oct 24 2025 11:04 utc | 265
 
Thanks for reply.
Yes, the name of that movie annoyed me when I first viewed it as well – 
… appreciated the history – keep on posting. D.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 24 2025 22:13 utc | 370

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 22:06 utc | 368
 
I am Irish/Canadian,  not a Yankee.
 
My French is poor and I am ‘so stupid’ as you accurately described;  yet let’s continue,  you don’t vote for anyone as it delusional so are you an anarchist or what system would you, being , coveresly ‘so smart’. what system would you nominate?

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 22:18 utc | 371

I am Irish/Canadian,  not a Yankee. Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 22:18 utc | 370
 
LOL! I know that you are a Canadian. Canuck is also used in French.
 
Do you think that you live in a “democracy”?

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 22:24 utc | 372

Posted by: Naive | Oct 24 2025 22:24 utc | 371
 
You evaded my question: Simply,  ‘what political system would you nominate?”
 
Anyways, I will answer your question; “No, I don’t believe I live in a democracy”.
 
Now do your bit.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 22:43 utc | 373

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 24 2025 17:35 utc | 329
 
William Gruff – on the question of whether Europe’s gearing up for real war with Russia I agree with you.  Not a chance.  As you know the European armed forces aren’t in any condition for that.   And Trump won’t put American boots on the ground any more than Biden would.  That way lies Armageddon, the Russians and the Americans getting themselves into direct armed conflict.
 
But the Europeans are still gearing up for war of a sort.   Cold War II.   Hence the drone scares, the exercises, the warnings in France to prepare for heavy casualties, the Balts preparing to move civilians out of the way.   Plus the torrent of propaganda about the evil Russians.   Plus the happy talk about military Keynesianism.   Plus Merz’s dramatic call for the militarisation of Germany.   And UvdL and Kallas making the appropriate bellicose remarks.  The entirety of Europe – well, the Northern Heartland anyway, not so sure about the weaker brethren  further South –  answering the call to battle.  Just so long as they don’t have to fight one.
 
So it’s the  White Tiger showing its teeth.  And hoping no one will notice it hasn’t got any this time round.  Has to be that way.  Trump, if he manages to get the PR right, can evade blame for the defeat by blaming the mess on Biden.  The Euros don’t have that get-out.  The current European politicians are those who got us into the mess.  OK, Merz isn’t Scholz.  But  I remember Merz’s speech in the Bundestag right after the SMO started and he was as fully committed as Scholz.  Same goes for Starmer.
 
The Europoliticians only chance of saving face and staying in power is to blame the Americans for the defeat (“Trump wimped out”) and to press on preparing  for a war with Russia that’ll never be fought.   All the jumping up and down is just to keep the voters in line.   
 

Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 24 2025 23:04 utc | 374

Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 24 2025 23:04 utc | 373
 
Excellent analysis, thank you.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 24 2025 23:26 utc | 375

English Outsider @373.
 
Thanks for the detailed (and quite reassuring) reply. I am fine with a new Cold War. That will contain the damage to global cultures from the Empire’s demise, and limit the damage to the cultures the Empire controls now as well. It’s not the worst possible outcome at all.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 25 2025 0:01 utc | 376

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be serving on the USS Gerald Ford at the moment.
 

Posted by: Merkin Scot | Oct 25 2025 1:40 utc | 377

Col. Wilkerson said today on a Nima video that Trump and Putin are talking more often than is being reported.  If that is true then it changes the perspective about the kabuki bullying of Russia by Trump.
 
I will wait to see what happens but I like the potential of Putin really having more of Trump’s ear.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2025 2:33 utc | 378

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be serving on the USS Gerald Ford at the moment.
 

Posted by: Merkin Scot | Oct 25 2025 3:00 utc | 379

I wonder if China and Russia are moving any navy equipment into the Venezuela region along with the Ford aircraft carrier fleet?
 
Does this mean that Occupied Palestine will not attack Iran?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2025 3:06 utc | 380

I love her
 
 

Posted by: Freat | Oct 25 2025 4:13 utc | 381

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl0nOv_SF0M

Posted by: Freat | Oct 25 2025 4:14 utc | 382

Posted by: Norsk Borscht | Oct 24 2025 15:25 utc | 313

 
Excellent comment Norsk Borscht (interesting nick btw, borscht is a famous Ukrainian/Russian soup of thick constitution [well, once in Vancouver I was served a very weak borscht in a Ukrainian restaurant; I’ve never forgiven Ukraine for serving me that borscht])
 

The war in Ukraine IS Russia vs. the USA, make no mistake, and the USA is losing BADLY. 

 
This is not correct.
You described below what a true USA-Russia war would look like, it’d be nuclear, with both sides seriously hurt if not killed entirely, plus nearly total destruction of Central and Eastern Europe (the Iberian Peninsula may get just a single strike in Andalucia and then survive and limp on in a state of misery). 
This war is between Russia and fascists and Jewish oligarch forces in Ukraine with funding, procurement and cheerleading from the USA+groupies.
I think it is important not to exaggerate the nature of this war. It is a war between nations that were joined recently and then they separated having some unfinished business which is now being brought to its logical conclusion: the destruction of the weakest nation.
This war is not existential for the USA, NATO and the EU. Russia will win and the USA, NATO and the EU would walk away and suffer the economic and political consequences of a poorly thought, that’s all.
 

So their only options left is to terrorize Russia and its allies to the point that Russia would attack major military sites in Europe and/or the USA and its allies, thus supporting the “Russia is all  bad, evil, demonic” to enable a nuclear attack on Russia. Then the USA would have support for the rest of the world because, “Russia started it”, or to false flag a nuclear weapons strike somewhere in Europe; then bring all the allies and vassals to a foaming at the mouth war against Russia by conventional means.

 
This is not correct either.
USA+groupies goal is to weaken Russia, as they’ve confessed when Biden was Biden (instead of Trump being Biden).
USA+groupies don’t want Russia to attack us.
You are confusing the goals of ukrops with the goals of USA+groupies.
Ukrops urgently need to bring USA+groupies into direct conflict with Russia to avoid or delay their termination but USA+groupies will not do that because (1) for us it is not existential, (2) we are not strong enough and (3) Russia is not weak enough.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 25 2025 8:22 utc | 383

Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 24 2025 23:04 utc | 374
I think the voters are anything like ‘in line, or likely to be before the election. Starmer is following a Biden-lite policy, that many political commentators on the Right predicted, with an accelerated programme of massive, socially engineered change that aims to fundamentally transform the country, leaving a political opponent  little time, or means, to enact their agenda and make any meaningful change to repair the damage. Foreign policy is either simply subsumed into this domestic agenda, or contracted out and I’m doubtful if the puppet Starmer, like Biden, actually knows what is really going on, until he has to read a statement to the House denying that he knew something. 
 
As for keeping the ‘voters in line’ with such policies, anything but, they know they’ve burnt their bridges with the electorate so like good ideologues they simply increase the pace of the programme to compensate The Russian policy then becomes a devilish brew of repayment of debts to those shadowy figures who allowed you and your second tier colleagues to fondle the leavers of power and a shiny object of distraction from the real agenda. Judging by some of the responses here they’ve succeeded with the latter objective. 
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2025 2:33 utc | 378
As I get tired of repeating, what you are seeing publicly and causing some posters to froth and spume, does not reflect the reality  of the nature of the private conversations between the US and Russia. One could even argue that the more the war-mongers churn the water the more it indicates nervousness on their part that the threads of a solution are slowly being knitted together. 
 
 

Posted by: Milites | Oct 25 2025 9:20 utc | 384

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2025 2:33 utc | 378“As I get tired of repeating, what you are seeing publicly and causing some posters to froth and spume, does not reflect the reality  of the nature of the private conversations between the US and Russia. One could even argue that the more the war-mongers churn the water the more it indicates nervousness on their part that the threads of a solution are slowly being knitted together. ”  
Posted by: Milites | Oct 25 2025 9:20 utc | 384
 
Well said!

Posted by: canuk | Oct 25 2025 12:04 utc | 385

Considering that I requested evidence of more than just Brussels bloviation, let’s take a look at the links Tom Pfotzer provided in his response @336:
 

The Commission proposed

 
Bloviation.
 

Europe’s plans to pay for surge…

 
More bloviation.
 

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius has said his country must prepare for war

 
Soo… they’re not currently preparing for war? Yep, that’s bloviation.
 

The dramatic deployment of troops would more than double the current number of active-duty German soldiers

 
Hmm… “would double” and not “has doubled”. I smell bloviating shite.
 
Look at this one! “German auto plants repurposed for military production”! It’s in the past tense, suggesting it has happened! And in the article:
 

Rheinmetall is considering using a Volkswagen automobile plant…

 
Definitely shite! 
 
Goldman Sachs? Ooooh, a heavy! What do they say?
 

The Future of European Defense

 
Not the present? Just more fantasy… bloviation.
 
Get back to me when any of these fantasies get beyond the PowerPoint presentation stage. I specifically asked about workers bending metal, not middle managers masturbating.
 

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 25 2025 12:25 utc | 386

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 25 2025 0:01 utc | 376  The old Cold War included the Korean War and the Vietnam War, for just two. Being fine with a new Cold War is absurd, except it allows someone to pretend Trumpery is an improvement on the old unipolar world….except the Cold War was not about a unipolar world. Trumpery is not about a multipolar world (whatever exactly that is supposed to mean) it’s about America First. The thing the Trump cultists don’t want anyone to understand is, America means Wall Street First. That’s the real swamp. 
 
Re the EU’s buildup of their militaries, of course they aren’t in a rush to institute a true war economy a la WWII. (For that matter, not even Russia has done that!) They don’t need to because Russia is tied down indefinitely (i.e., five days to five years) in Ukraine. Russia can’t overrun Ukraine, they can’t overrun EU. The threat is largely fictitious, about Trump wanting Europe to pay for the Ukraine theater of the war against Russia. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 25 2025 15:58 utc | 387

“They don’t need to because Russia is tied down indefinitely (i.e., five days to five years) in Ukraine.” 
 
Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 25 2025 15:58 utc | 387
 
I would suggest a closer reading of Russian history.  Russia was in a war with Sweden from 1688-1709; Russia eventually prevailed at the Battle of Poltava not far from the current front lines.
 
You have the idea backwards-time is on Russia’s side not the Wests’.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 25 2025 16:47 utc | 388

Using Trumps tweets as indication of intent is like reading NY Times to keep up with world events.

Posted by: jared | Oct 25 2025 18:58 utc | 389

RE:   “the threads of a solution are slowly being knitted together. ”  Posted by: Milites | Oct 25 2025 9:20 utc | 384
 
 
As if the WEF elites were ever un-knitted.
Was a great chaos distraction after the COVID wealth transfer.
 
But appears China will lead the next and new chaos distraction as Ukraine was so 2022… 
 
The shows are only good for 2-4 years,  then the crowds leave and the WEF  dreams up a new chaos plan while Bankers & every thief known steals the wealth from all Global citizens unchallenged.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 26 2025 2:29 utc | 390

Col. Wilkerson said today on a Nima video that Trump and Putin are talking more often than is being reported.  If that is true then it changes the perspective about the kabuki bullying of Russia by Trump.Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2025 2:33 utc | 378
 
Larry Johnson sad the same so definately more than meets eye here. 
 
A lot of different shit going on. US nationalists want detent with Russia and access to Russian resources.  They also want to take down Venezuela, Iran China.
 
Russia wants to take down the western globalists which includes virtually all the Europeans, four of the five-eyes and the globalist faction in the US. 
So Russia supports the US nationalists against the globalists, but Russia’s allies are those the American nationalists wish to attack.
Interesting times. Russia is playing chess on the grand chessboard.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 26 2025 2:51 utc | 391

Posted by: canuk | Oct 25 2025 16:47 utc | 388  I was under the impression that the Great Northern War began in 1700. Poltava decided the ultimate victor in 1709 but a formal peace wasn’t signed till 1721. I don’t see how this strongly suggests that time is always on Russia’s side. I will note that if the Ukraine war lasts 21 years, we are likely to see Putin dead, if only of natural causes. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 26 2025 20:24 utc | 392

Hello,I’m Maira Rakib, reaching out to see if you’d be open to a guest post collaboration with your website moonofalabama.org. I’d love to provide a high-quality article tailored to your readers’ interests while meeting your site’s editorial standards.Guest contributions can be a great way to provide your readers with fresh perspectives and valuable insights. Could you please share your guest post pricing and any posting requirements so I can prepare accordingly?Warm regards,Maira Rakib

Posted by: Maira rakib | Nov 4 2025 10:16 utc | 393