Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 23, 2025
Trump Fails To End His Proxy War With Russia

It there any politician who is less reliable than U.S. President Donald Trump?

At the August summit in Anchorage with President Vladimir Putin of Russia Trump had aimed at a ceasefire along the frontline in Ukraine. But Putin made clear that the war required a long term solution of the underlying problem, NATO enlargement, and that a preliminary ceasefire would not be helpful in that regard. Russia also demanded full control of the Donbas and other regions.

Trump did agree to that and announced it as the brilliant result of the talks. This was his first turn on the issue.

But Ukraine’s (former) President Zelenski rejected any retreat from the regions Russia intends to acquire. European politicians, who fear losing the war against Russia, chimed in. Republican war hawks in Congress likewise put pressure on Trump.

A month after the talks in Alaska Trump again changed his position. This was his second turn. He criticized Putin and threatened Russia with new sanctions. Talk about sending Tomahawk cruise missiles to Ukraine crept up.

A day before Zelenski was supposed to visit the White House Putin preemptively intervened by holding a phone call with Donald Trump. There followed another, the third, change in mind. Trump announced that there would soon be another summit. The Kremlin was more cautious with that claim. It said that a summit would need extensive preparation.

The Europeans, Zelenski and Republican hawks immediately renewed their campaign against any agreement with Russia.

A phone call between the Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov followed. After the call any further preparations for another summit were called off.

Trump turned again – the fourth time – and again demanded a ceasefire in Ukraine. The Russians said that this constitutes a breach of the agreements reached during the Anchorage talks.

While Trump nixed any talk of Tomahawks for Ukraine he lifted restriction on Ukraine’s use of long-range missiles (archived) to be fired into Russia:

The unannounced U.S. move to enable Kyiv to use the missile in Russia comes after authority for supporting such attacks was recently transferred from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth at the Pentagon to the top U.S. general in Europe, Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, who also serves as NATO commander.

The U.S. also issued sanctions against two major Russian oil companies (archived) and their subsidiaries:

President Trump announced on Wednesday that he was imposing significant new sanctions on Russia for the first time in his second term, underscoring a new degree of frustration with President Vladimir V. Putin after a plan for the two leaders to meet in Budapest fell apart.

The new sanctions were announced just as the president sat down in the Oval Office with NATO’s secretary general, Mark Rutte, who had flown to Washington on behalf of a coalition of European leaders desperate to keep Mr. Trump on the side of Ukraine.

Mr. Trump’s irritation with the Russian leader was evident on Wednesday. “Every time I speak with Vladimir, I have good conversations, and then they don’t go anywhere,” he said. “They just don’t go anywhere.”

He explained his decision to scupper the Budapest summit that had been planned for some time in the coming weeks. “It just it didn’t feel right to me,” Mr. Trump said. “It didn’t feel like we were going to get to the place we have to get. So I canceled it.”

As for the sanctions?

“I just felt it was the right time,” he said.

On the same day Russia’s President Putin felt it was the right time to test Russia’s nuclear tirade:

“Today, we are conducting a planned – I want to emphasize, planned – nuclear forces command and control exercise,” Putin said in a video conference with the top military brass.

Videos shared by the state-owned military TV channel Zvezda showed the launch of a Yars intercontinental ballistic missile from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in Russia’s north and a Sineva ballistic missile fired from the Bryansk nuclear-powered submarine in the Barents Sea. Tu-95MS long-range bombers also fired air-launched cruise missiles, the defense ministry said.

The new sanctions will, like any before them, have little effect on Russia. Global oil prices will increase and Russia will find ways to market its oil at higher prices.

Sanctions don’t work. The U.S. Government Accountability Office recently found that the U.S. is flying blind and even lacks the means to measure the effect of sanctions it imposes:

U.S. agencies primarily responsible for implementing sanctions and export controls on Russia have not established clearly defined objectives linked to measurable outcomes with targets for their activities. As a result, agencies cannot fully assess progress towards achieving their objectives, thus limiting the U.S. government’s ability to determine the effectiveness of its broader sanctions and export controls efforts related to Russia. This information is crucial for improving current efforts and informing the future use of sanctions and export control.

China has already announced that it rejects any secondary sanctions the U.S. will try to impose as China continues to buy Russian oil. India, which pays for Russian oil in Yuan, will likely react in kind.

The EU just issued its 19th round of sanction against Russia. None of these rounds have influenced Russia while all of them have damaged economies in Europe. As a saying, misattributed to Albert Einstein, goes: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

There is simply no way for the U.S. and/or its European vassals to prevent a Russian victory in Ukraine. To insist on a different outcome will not change the facts on the ground.

As Aaron Maté writes:

When it comes to intransigence, the Beltway’s is not in dispute. The prevailing outlook was captured earlier this year by longtime Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell. “It seems to me pretty obvious that America’s reputation is on the line,” McConnell told Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. “We don’t want a headline at the end of this conflict that says Russia wins and America loses. That’s extremely important if we’re going to continue to play the role in the world that the vast majority of members of Congress think we should still play.”

The alternative to McConnell’s refusal to “lose” is compromise. As Fiona Hill, a Russia expert who served in Trump’s first term, recently put it: the Russians are “always want something they can take to the bank, an agreement they can hold the U.S. to.” In other words, the Russians are interested in diplomacy – a concept foreign to veteran lawmakers and bureaucrats in Washington. If Trump is serious about ending the Ukraine proxy war, he will have to move beyond his ritual back and forth with Zelensky and defy a more powerful obstacle to peace in Washington.

Trump seems to know that he can only end the war with a compromise that will largely give Russia whatever it wants. But lacks the support, will and power to achieve it.

Comments

Very much my thoughts.
Medvedev has launched nuclear tirades. A good typo.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 23 2025 15:49 utc | 1

It there any politician who is less reliable than U.S. President Donald Trump?
 
Right on b. There is an actual lineage of this back to at least ray gun times, in the shrinking american sphere of  influence.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 23 2025 15:50 utc | 2

Trump did not fail anything; he is not allowed to even seek real peace. Not a coincidence he was installed again as president; the so called deal maker was installed to buy time for USA & West to reload before going after China/Iran and to keep Russia occupied so they can’t help.  Puppet masters pulling the strings is all this is.

Posted by: Drsmith | Oct 23 2025 15:52 utc | 3

More evidence that the NATO clown car and DC neo cons have DJT’s ear.
Clearly the MAGA non interventionists like MTG and Tucker are not going to be pleased with this switch.
Apparently the Lindsay Graham’s and General Kellogg’s are now driving the Trump policy on the Ukraine.
At this point the RF needs to move the needle even more…….time for an amphibious and airborne assault on Odessa, accelerate the collapse in Dontesk and enlarge the bridgehead across the Dnieper.  Make this new US effort a fait deomplae.
DJT is receiving and believing some really poor advice……..step back from the brink……

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 23 2025 15:55 utc | 4

One might add that any sanctions not issued by the UN security councial are illegal. And that they are acts of war against the civilian population.

Posted by: Marvin | Oct 23 2025 15:56 utc | 5

B: Trump seems to know that he can only end the war with a compromise that will largely give Russia whatever it wants. But lacks the support, will and power to achieve it.
 
 

<= I think its more like Trump will lose the little bit of control he has over the situation if he does not continue some kind of support for the Article 5 seeking NATO countries.  They are gearing up to gang up on and to defeat Russia before 2030 but I think Trump would like to trade with Russia.. and to engage with Russia in that under sea tunnel from Russia to Alaska.. to be named Trump-Putin undersea tunnel.. 
 
 

Posted by: snake | Oct 23 2025 15:56 utc | 6

“They are gearing up to gang up on and to defeat Russia before 2030”
The Euros will get their asses handed to them.

Posted by: Fred777 | Oct 23 2025 16:07 utc | 7

American corporate wisdom says “you cannot manage what you cannot measure.”
 
As India and China now have de-dollarized, there is no way for Washington to measure how much oil is flowing into India and China as it is outside of the US dollar system.
Taco has been officially neutered! 

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 23 2025 16:08 utc | 8

b its not just Republican hawks; its is the neo-cons whom infest both parties.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 16:10 utc | 9

tobias cole | Oct 23 2025 15:55 utc | 4
 
The American nationalists want detente with the Russians so they can attack China. The Europeans and Brits are doing there best to ‘Trump proof” the war against Russia.
 
Russia now has the west by the short and curlies and will not let going.  That movie, the White Tiger – the very ending has taken on a great deal of significance. Russia is going to utterly destroy western power so that never again can the west rise up against Russia. Russia knew what was coming and prepared for it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 23 2025 16:10 utc | 10

“Every time I speak with Vladimir, I have good conversations, and then they don’t go anywhere,” he said. “They just don’t go anywhere.”

 
Learn to listen President Trump 

Posted by: exile | Oct 23 2025 16:10 utc | 11

When VVP opted to stand by Russia’s stated objectives in the SMO, he opted not to agree to DJT’s insistence on freezing the conflict along the current LOC: so the Western media calls this “intransigence.”  The Telegraph in fact threw down the gauntlet, narrative-spin-wise: “Putin wrecks peace talks.”
 
Representing Russia’s fundamental demands, standing resolutely w/ the need to address the “root causes” and ameliorate them, is to the West forbidden.  Russia is not allowed to have aims, objectives or interests.
 
One lives by the narrative and dies by the narrative.
 
The nytimes has an above-the-fold headline right now which admits that these new sanctions will do little to blunt Russia’s war calculations.
 
For narrative-spin purposes, however, the new sanctions are pure gold (or should I say fiat currency-?)  They satisfy the clamoring of U.S. neocons & European warmongers for stiffer financial action against Russia. 
 
Although they won’t alter battlefield realities, in which Russian Forces are mulching the AFU/NATO mercs on the LOC and show no sign of stopping, they will silence (for a time) the cries of ever-greater, ever-more punitive actions against Russia, and that gives DJT some operating space.
 
For a time.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 23 2025 16:12 utc | 12

The time to shit or get off the pot is coming sooner than people think. 
The people of Europe are in for an education regarding the total imbeciles running their lives and countries. 
The Hungarians and Romanians  have had the first examples of the calibre of their close neighbours.
And if people haven’t twigged you don’t want the Ukrainians in the EU. 
Well !
 

Posted by: jpc | Oct 23 2025 16:12 utc | 13

The same friends and acquaintances who never tire of sharing with me their unsolicited views of the US President give me the most incredulous looks and sudden desire to avoid political discussion altogether when I point out that roles are reversed and a Republican President is now the “dove” and the Democrats are the “hawks”. Nothing breaks the surface of the true believer. ha ha. They shut up right away. 
If Trump keeps digging around the roots of the truth then he’s bound to eventually be successful. And that will just infuriate the true believers. 
“Win, win!” as the Chinese say. 

Posted by: NH | Oct 23 2025 16:15 utc | 14

Every time I speak with Vladimir, I have good conversations, and then they don’t go anywhere,” he said. “They just don’t go anywhere.”

 Learn to listen President Trump 
Posted by: exile | Oct 23 2025 16:10 utc | 11
 
That particular cognitive ability seems to be missing since a while!

Posted by: jpc | Oct 23 2025 16:15 utc | 15

US government debt just broke over $38 trillion dollars, growing much faster than the NVIDIA bubble.  Maybe belligerent will keep the headlines from debt, and impending economic declines.
 
trump cannot entertain Russian Federation demands.  He is like all US government officials beholding to a cabal of war profiteers and tech moguls.

Posted by: paddy | Oct 23 2025 16:16 utc | 16

Trump is a loon. One would think that Russia will not make excuses for him anymore.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Oct 23 2025 16:16 utc | 17

As you rightly point out -B-…
 
”Proxy”… as in US proxy… why would DJT end it?
 
Especially now that the EU is wholly handcuffed to pay over 70% of it.
 
Why not stretch Russia to collapse?
Makes sense to me.  
Once Ukraine “finished”… they’ll have another proxy nation waiting in the wings .
 
It’s all on China now,  to economically squeeze the life out of the West.
Russia “militarily”, as done its part.
 
 I don’t see Russia doing any frontal assaults or changing much in strategy of the SMO.
However, asymmetrically, many other nations will now receive drones, arms and intelligence all over the world.  Russia may even open new bases in various places.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 23 2025 16:19 utc | 18

Today’s ‘economic sanctions’ employed against other countries  is the Geopolitical Equivalent of Erectile Dysfunction (TM; GEED]

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 16:22 utc | 19

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 23 2025 16:19 utc | 18
 
One other factor in continuing the SMO that doesn’t get mentioned much-on the West other motivation other than pillaging and pilfering; Slav killing Slav.
 
Quite cynical but apt I think.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 16:25 utc | 20

Thanks for the posting b……quite the shit show civilization war, eh?
 
Trump is a Hollywood unreality show actor with a bully character instead of a negotiator one (his book notwithstanding).
 
The God Of Mammon cult cannot negotiate loss of hegemony and so Trump is their bully face of last resort.  And that last resort is not working so there is desperation.
 
I just read that Modi will attend the ASEAN meeting remotely so he doesn’t have to interact with Trump……and wonder if Trump will back out at the last minute, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 23 2025 16:28 utc | 21

All Moscow has to do is wait until 2027 when the US federal gov’ insolvency crisis hits big time. 
no moar money
no more war
de-dollarization brings peace

Posted by: exile | Oct 23 2025 16:28 utc | 22

Peter AU1 | Oct 23 2025 15:49 utc | 1
I think it’s more likely US and possibly NATO folks letting loose with nuclear tirades as they hear about Russia testing its nuclear triad.

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Oct 23 2025 16:29 utc | 23

Two days ago I said summit was canceled and was told that was “fake news”. So where are we?
 
Trump continues to believe the Russians will compromise on their Ukraine objectives mistaking Russian willingness to discuss compromises and potential cooperation in other areas with flexibility on their security wrt Ukraine. This despite the Russians repeatedly telling him they will not. When this fact became clear there was no reason to meet VVP, as Trump is so far unwilling to concede in a way that will inevitably be portrayed as a US defeat. So, the blood will continue to flow…

Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 23 2025 16:31 utc | 24

That was all just marketing hype for the media from Trump anyway. He obviously still thinks he can pressure Putin into backing down and then announce, “See, you just have to punish the naughty child properly, then it will do what you want,” and stand there as the great peacemaker.As long as he doesn’t understand that this won’t work, but that he himself (and thus the US and the West) must give in, nothing will come of it except a delay of the war that has been inevitable until now.
It now seems to me that this drama is calculated: to drag things out until Russia’s current strength can be neutralized by European rearmament, i.e., NATO’s plan from this spring (NATO needs another three years, according to its own estimates).
I just hope that Putin doesn’t fall for this smokescreen.
Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

Posted by: smartfox | Oct 23 2025 16:33 utc | 25

Trump has indeed failed but make no mistake the Russians are clearly upset by this turn of events. They hoped to utilise dialogue with Trump to avoid being turned into an Iran or North Korea in terms  of geopolitical legitimisation.
The dialogue between Putin and Trump and Rubio and Lavrov simply didn’t have any equivalence with each other.
it looks like missile escalation will be the next step

Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 23 2025 16:38 utc | 26

I long ago stated that Trump has yet to identify the Neocons who sabotage any efforts at peace.   The idiot has such a skewed view of reality he doesn’t see the Neocons undermining him every step of the way.   They flatter him and do what they wish.  
There really isn’t much new about this, he’s not suddenly delusional or suffering dementia, he’s, we’re simply unable to avoid the consequences of his actions any longer.   As a private citizen he’s been able to out run himself, no longer

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 23 2025 16:39 utc | 27

the pessimist | Oct 23 2025 16:31 utc | 24
yes, that is it.
 

Posted by: smartfox | Oct 23 2025 16:42 utc | 28

“All Moscow has to do is wait until 2027 when the US federal gov’ insolvency crisis hits big time. ”
Posted by: exile | Oct 23 2025 16:28 utc | 22
 
The Axis powers know that time is on their side.
 
The US Federal Govt. is insolvent now-it isn’t about math, it  is about confidence.  One of the reasons the world had confidence in the dollar was partly because the US had the biggest military now that myth is shattered when they have had to retreat from Afghanistan, the Houthis et al..
 
The insolvency crisis could happen any day-or if Trump somehow manages to get Venezuelan crude on the Federal Govt. books (as an asset)  or the gas field in the sea around Gaza  he may delay it .
 
PTB in Finance just got their asses handed to them in the gold and silver markets.  One can tell when a short squeeze is occurring-there is one now in the gold and silver markets

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 16:45 utc | 29

Sure Drsmith, its not Trumps fault. That’s the lame excuse you tin foil hat wearing at-right brown shirt loonies keep giving this blowhard reality tv actor for president. He picked the cabinet and stuffed them again with neocons and zionist in his second term, but poor Trump is besieged by the same people he hires a second time. Again MAGA can fuck off by now and just die with the rest of that corpse called the West.

Posted by: Ok | Oct 23 2025 16:49 utc | 30

“For narrative-spin purposes, however, the new sanctions are pure gold (or should I say fiat currency-?)  They satisfy the clamoring of U.S. neocons & European warmongers for stiffer financial action against Russia. 
 Although they won’t alter battlefield realities, in which Russian Forces are mulching the AFU/NATO mercs on the LOC and show no sign of stopping, they will silence (for a time) the cries of ever-greater, ever-more punitive actions against Russia, and that gives DJT some operating space.
 For a time.”
 
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 23 2025 16:12 utc | 12
 
Sound analysis, thanks.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 16:50 utc | 31

Meanwhile, latest exchange of bodies.

And again, the sad statistics:Russia received the remains of 31 soldiers from Ukraine, Shamsail Saraliev, a representative of the parliamentary coordination group on military operations, State Duma deputy, told RBC:”31 were exchanged for 1,000. 31 bodies of the dead have been returned to Russia.”
@ConflictChronicles
https://t.me/ConflictChronicles/18577

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 23 2025 16:52 utc | 32

This is all still flowing as Trump and Putin obviously agreed in Alaska. Putin declined the considerable economic inducements for a ceasefire, and the 2 agreed Trump would talk shit publicly about Russia until they agreed to a deal.
 
I doubt sanctions matter much. No wunderwaffen are forthcoming. The US is at least posturing that the eurocucks must pay the full tab.  The hohols are crumbling.
 
I doubt the Russians will demand they publicly grovel, but that’s what the eurocucks will have to do soon.  

Posted by: seer | Oct 23 2025 16:52 utc | 33

Venezuela crude on the federal assets, thats a load of delusional right wing crap. If necon Trumpy want  easy oil and resources he might as well invade an easy but fake country of Canada, those fagot canuks an armed force smaller then some U.S. metropolitan police forces.

Posted by: Ok | Oct 23 2025 16:53 utc | 34

Don’t worry Ukraine.
 
After you have lost the proxy war your women can get jobs as strippers in Jared Kushner’sGaza casinos.
 
 

Posted by: Otto Penn | Oct 23 2025 16:54 utc | 35

Trump probably agreed with the Eurotards not to meet Putin in exchange for the suicidal and collective Eurotard trade war against China.
This is presented as a major victory in Eurotardland and its media.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 23 2025 16:56 utc | 36

Secondo dati forniti da Putin in persona, i Russi perdono (fra morti e feriti gravi) almeno 200 soldati al giorno, ovvero 264.000 in 44 mesi. Poichè ai meccanismi della propaganda nessuno è immune, possiamo tranquillamente portare questa cifra ad almeno 400.000 (certo, non il milione e mezzo di cui parla Trump… quelli sono i numeri dei morti dei nazisti). Se a questo aggiungiamo i civili russi morti per gli attacchi persino a 1000 km di distanza, i danni a impianti chimici e petroliferi, la vittoria russa ha il sapore di una VITTORIA DI PIRRO.  Vittoria… per liberare cumuli di rovine ? Ma dove hanno studiato la strategia, i Generali dell’Armata Russa ? Il Primo concetto bellico è portare la guerra in casa del Nemico, non combattere  dove e come vuole lui, che si è preparato per 8 anni con bunker e trincee. Le azioni militari sulla linea di contatto dovevano servire solo a bloccarli, ma la guerra vera  doveva portare la distruzione a Kiev e Lvov. Se ai 400.000 uomini “persi” si aggiunge la mobilitazione di altra manodopera nelle industrie della difesa, si spiega l’accordo con l’India per importare UN MILIONE di lavoratori indiani nei prossimi 3 anni (presumo e spero, almeno, non musulmani).  Detto tutto ciò. continuate a pensare che Putin si aun genio ?

Posted by: Paolo | Oct 23 2025 16:56 utc | 37

How are Euros any more suckers and cucks then the Americans, sure the Euros have no money but the Yanks have no weapons and are fast depleting their own fracking carbon based fuel. They are both fucked in equal measure in the long term.

Posted by: Ok | Oct 23 2025 16:56 utc | 38

canuk | Oct 23 2025 16:22 utc | 19
—‐-‐——–‐—————————————
Anyone else want to suggest a word to add to that acronym?  For example, to make it the “Geopolitical Rationalized Equivalent of Erectile Dysfunction” (GREED)?
 
Or maybe better yet, make the added word Ruler-based . . . to emphasize that the purpose is to keep the power in the hands of the current ruler.  (Or rulers, depending on how you’re counting.)

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Oct 23 2025 16:59 utc | 39

Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 23 2025 16:31 utc | 24

 
In other words, empires (have to) double down, they don’t compromise.

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Oct 23 2025 16:59 utc | 40

Trump did not fail anything; he is not allowed to even seek real peace. Not a coincidence he was installed again as president; the so called deal maker was installed to buy time for USA & West to reload before going after China/Iran and to keep Russia occupied so they can’t help.  Puppet masters pulling the strings is all this is.
Posted by: Drsmith | Oct 23 2025 15:52 utc | 3
 
cut to the chase, why dontcha? 
Whatever happened to “SPOILER ALERT!”s?
these kind of posts just make the noise level more apparent.
 
thanks.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Oct 23 2025 17:01 utc | 41

Wolff’s “Empire in decline and desperation” sums up McConnell and the rest. The tariff damage figures published by Goldman Sachs were cited by Wolff–90% are absorbed by American consumers or business, which means they are doing what was predicted by many outside Team Trump. Other excellent discussion during the Hudson/Wolff chat, much by Hudson. The Imperial Ponzi Scheme was well described and the argument in favor of Keynes Bancor system was again made in relation to the current insecurity and destabilization of the international financial system. Oh, those provinces are already Russian. The question is if Russia will take even more between now and the end of 2026. The reports coming from Russia say there’s great resolve to regain more original Russian lands–including Kiev. As I commented elsewhere yesterday, Russia is now conducting armored assaults using interceptor drones as close air support, a tactic I advocated months ago when those new drone types made their appearance. The newest FAB glide bombs now have a range of 200Km, and the Ukies have no way to interdict them, unlike the Russians. What that means is the Russian advance will now move even faster despite the onset of the muck and freeze season. Those following closely will have noted the many successful river crossings Russian troops have accomplished over the past two weeks–movements that were once highly contested. Trump’s “frustrations” with Putin are because Russia is winning and the Outlaw US Empire is clearly losing. Russia has recently closed a new treaty with Venezuela and had talks with its ministers in Moscow, and Russia has good relations with Colombia and almost all Latin American and Caribbean nations. And then there’s the effect of China’s new export controls–tools the Empire once used to maintain its dominance are now used against it and it was caught flatfooted. So, what does Team Trump do? It further destroys what little remains of its international reputation by openly murdering innocents in international waters and abets the Zionist Genocide by throwing up false “peace is at hand” hopes the bloodthirsty Zionists will never obey.       

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 17:02 utc | 42

With the rasputitsa hard upon the battlefield soon, and the mop-up actions taking place in Pokrovsk & Mirograd, it will undoubtedly seem to Western media & their megaphones that the war is in a “stalemate,” so that they can make beaucoup narrative hay out of Russia’s lack of progress on the LOC.
 
Recall, though, that the Avdiivka operation actually began in early November 2023, as rasputitsa had set in, and continued steadily & consistently until Russian Forces liberated Avdiivka in February 2024.  It represented a hinge-point in Russia’s military tactics (first use of the pipe-tunnel, too) and fueled a period of great momentum which has never really abated.
 
The onset of the Avdiivka liberation operation definitively slammed the door on Ukraine/NATO’s Great Summer Offensive(TM)
 
Russia’s advances toward Zaporizhzhia right now, moving from the south to the north, present alluring Winter Campaign possibilities, perhaps even making the encirclement tactic which worked well w/ Pokrovsk a strong strategy.  The Dniepr river to the west of Zaporizhzhia offers a promising clamping point against which the encirclement can happen rather efficiently.
 
At that point, Russia may opt to dig in in Zaporizhzhia, consolidate forces and perform the necessary mop-up actions, before looking northward conceivably, where the city of Dnipro awaits.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 23 2025 17:02 utc | 43

Looks like the Reality Show President wants peace and war at the same time. Sounds like a child who wants dessert at the same time he’s eating supper. 

Posted by: octavian61 | Oct 23 2025 17:04 utc | 44

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 23 2025 16:56 utc | 36
 
Goodmpoint-Trump trading ‘get China’ for continuing the SMO.
 
The Euro leaders remind me of that poor black night n Monty Python who kept crying that he was winning as he lost his limbs one by one.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 17:05 utc | 45

What trump needs to do now is completly turn his back on the sad reality of americas situation.
 
And try and distract the simple minded american sheeple with some  pointless  gesture.
 
I know why not turn the white house into a giant ballroom.
 
Oh wait !

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 23 2025 17:06 utc | 46

The tariff damage figures published by Goldman Sachs
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 17:02 utc | 42

 
Yes, the voice of the Blob, as ever. When will the fascination with neoliberalism end?

Posted by: seer | Oct 23 2025 17:06 utc | 47

I had a dog some time ago, and every time I took him for a walk, he would get so exited that he bumped in the same tree evrytime!

Posted by: padre | Oct 23 2025 17:07 utc | 48

@ Ok | Oct 23 2025 16:53 utc | 34
 
America invade a country it already owns?  I suppose Canada, Europe, Australia or New Zealand are the only countries the US military could successfully invade because the citizens of those countries are as impotent as Americans and would not put up any fight.
 
The problem should be obvious.  America turning on its allies is the Empire eating itself.  Who would have thought Trump would be the political version of a flesh eating disease?

Posted by: EoinW | Oct 23 2025 17:10 utc | 49

Good reading b,
Gave a me warm feeling to see you use ‘nixed’ 😉
 
The Donald should have old crone miss Lindsey arrested and thrown in the cooler for 30 days solitary. Even as he closes in on Bolton.
 
That would send a clear message to the dumb beltway.
 
I doubt if Trumpty Dumpty has any real influence on foreign policy which is set by those who represent the ‘National Interests’ in the tooth and claw rapine of the world and its resources for their PERSONAL interests.
They are the ones who are bargaining with the Chinese, Russians and the new multipolar behind the scenes.
 
The REAL ‘peace’ talks and the agreements that will be signed that will be legal enough for the neo multipolarists to be ‘taken to the bank’, are coming in the next few weeks.
 
@Kanthan2030
7h
4 days of intense US-China trade talks to be held in Malaysia before the Trump-Xi meeting in Korea.
He Lifeng, the Vice Premier of China v. Crazy Man Bessent.
Good luck!
Oct 23, 2025 · 9:21 AM UTC ‘
 
The potus will have to be there to rubber stamp the ‘glory’ of the settlements ‘offered’.  He can sell them to his hearts content as bringing peace to the world by holstering arms and riding off into the sunset to the West, what’s left of it.
 
The gangs of satraps and hundreds of bases being taken with them. They are already prepping with the multitudes from everywhere already being resettled.
 
There is no room for the muppets of Europe, not even (mini me Churchills) starmztrooper, never mind the snotty green goblin – he has zero say in anything, except to perform the daily lines he is given. As long as he also gets the other lines that enable him to sniff his way through each performance. 🤡🤡

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 23 2025 17:10 utc | 50

I don’t know if Russians are the one trolling the egomaniac Trump or it is Trump himself who is trolling the collective Western Establishment. One thing that seems clear is that at the end, the EU will be the ultimate loser. 

Posted by: Steve | Oct 23 2025 17:12 utc | 51

… to Kiev…karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 17:02 utc | 42
For me, a strategy can only be considered successful once the Black Sea coast, including Odessa, is back in Russian hands. Only then will Russia enjoy a certain degree of security.

Posted by: smartfox | Oct 23 2025 17:13 utc | 52

Posted by: smartfox | Oct 23 2025 17:13 utc | 52
 
Agree 100%; the SMO will be a strategic failure unless Odessa is secured.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 17:19 utc | 53

Steve | Oct 23 2025 17:12 utc | 51
 
The EU as an institution will disintegrate and die, so it will certainly be one of several losers. NATO will either precede or immediately follow. It appears a new dynamic is forming in Europe as the EU collapses that will become clearer in 2026.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 17:21 utc | 54

Trump seems to know that he can only end the war with a compromise that will largely give Russia whatever it wants. But lacks the support, will and power to achieve it.

 
Our host is not an American. And it seems many of the American voices he listens to are Trump cultists. Plus much of MoA commentariat (and donors) are also Trump cultists. So that explains I think why he is still getting it wrong. As to what Trump knows, likely enough only Trump and God know. The one doesn’t speak and the other lies. But as to the support and the power? Oh yes, tin God Trump has the support and the power. The Republicans have a majority in the House and the Senate and they have a rubberstamp in the corrupt Supreme Court. [The supreme cesspool is by the way the most notorious example of an unelected group of officeholders steering the nation where it wants regardless of mere election. It’s even worse than the Federal Reserve in that regard. So-called Deep State theorists will never acknowledge this of course.]
 
If that were not enough, Trump already has a pattern of simply ignoring laws he doesn’t like, refusing to spend monies appropriated by Congress. He ignores any regulations regarding independent agencies he wishes to. He purges government bodies, including the officer corps, at whim. It is not clear what kind of support our host could possibly have in mind that Trump would need. He already doesn’t rule by law, why presume he needs it for foreign affairs, the arena in which executive action is constitutionally and customarily his to determine.  The House will not impeach nor will the Senate convict, so the last extreme measures cannot even threaten his power to act to end the war. Also, since the war against Russia is not even officially acknowledged, there are not even any legal obstacles. If anything, the legal obstacles are against such an undeclared war. Plainly any such obstacles are irrelevant, hurdled long ago. 
 
My conclusion is that if Trump wanted to make peace, he would. He doesn’t, so it seems he doesn’t. I presume it’s not because of lack of congressional support, nor because the mass of people want the war with Russia. I presume it’s because the American ruling class, of which he is a legacy member, needs the empire and the war against Russia is part of defending that empire. Trump can’t make a genuine peace with Russia any more than the empire can make a genuine peace with the rest of the world. There are only truces. And of course on a personal level, losing in Ukraine is losing, and Donald Trump doesn’t like to lose. 

 
 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 23 2025 17:24 utc | 55

Yes, the voice of the Blob, as ever. When will the fascination with neoliberalism end?
Posted by: seer | Oct 23 2025 17:06 utc | 47

Yes all countervailing evidence musy be ignored. I mean how could your daddy be wrong?
What is it with Americans and this weird savior complex around politicians? Trump is a bloviating fool and puppet fronting for even more stupid people who remain in the shadows. They will run your country into the ground in pursuit of their unrealizable goals.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 23 2025 17:25 utc | 56

I automatically discount people now as being of mediocre intelligence if they count themselves as informed but still haven’t clued into the fact there is no difference in the foreign policy agenda of Team Red and Team Blue and hasn’t been for decades. Its all theater.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 23 2025 17:26 utc | 57

countervailing evidence
 
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 23 2025 17:25 utc | 56

 
From Goldman Sachs…
 
I chuckle at the self-proclaimed “revolutionary” types who are nothing but  the Blob’s useful idiots,  squealing with glee over neoliberalism.

Posted by: seer | Oct 23 2025 17:30 utc | 58

 karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 17:02 utc | 42
 
Thanks for your summery
Looks like Russia may well go back to the borders of its historical treaties. The treaty with Poland, I think more or less initialed around the mid to late 1600’s then ratified around 1700. Then the treaty with the Ottoman empire which ceded Crimea and the Black Sea coast, I think around 1850. On one side of those two borders is ethnic Russia, the other side, Polish Rus – aka Ukrainians.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 23 2025 17:31 utc | 59

In other words you have no rebuttal of substance, just meaningless jibes. More or less sums up all your contributions here. I dont give a fuck about your politics boyo, I think Americans who are partisans are retarded. If that includes you, well sorry that the shoe fits?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 23 2025 17:32 utc | 60

Sorry ..previoue comment for 58, who calls himself seer and I suppose its true if mendicants count.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 23 2025 17:33 utc | 61

The EU’s plan to steal Russian money and give it to Ukraine is brilliantly worked out – all it needs is for Ukraine to win the war and for Russia to agree to pay for rebuilding in the country. Looks like a sure-fire winner to me!!
 

Posted by: Dave G | Oct 23 2025 17:36 utc | 62

Don’t whine, lad. It’s unseemly. Just wear the mantle of useful idiot, which the Blob is pleased to bestow. 

Posted by: seer | Oct 23 2025 17:37 utc | 63

Posted by: smartfox | Oct 23 2025 17:13 utc | 52
 
RE:  For me, a strategy can only be considered successful once the Black Sea coast, including Odessa, is back in Russian hands.
 
<<
 
MQ Reaper drone might start hallucinating fishing boats off the coast of Odessa.   You know how pervasive the Venezuelan narco-terrorists are w/ their Evinrude-powered cigarette skiffs

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 23 2025 17:37 utc | 64

“Every time I speak with Vladimir, I have good conversations, and then they don’t go anywhere,” he said. “They just don’t go anywhere.”
 
With the military unable to make any progress at the card table, politicians now want to pull the wool over the eyes of Russia one the negotiating table.
 
No one is forcing the US to enable Ukraine to continue the war. Victory was never on the cards against a nuclear power.
They have caused Russia a conventional nuisance that is consuming Ukrainian lives and Western resources.
Opportunities for profit have been established that would not exist without the war. 
Western economies are suffering losses, individuals are making profits, and the war is not paying off for everyone. So the states are not benefiting from it, and victory against Russia is not possible. 
So what to do?
The political brothels known as parliaments interpret the lack of popular uprising as patience that can be further exploited.
 
 

Posted by: BlindSpot | Oct 23 2025 17:38 utc | 65

Time the delusion of belief in the ongoing charade by alleged “leaders” of countries was ended.
In any sane and not entirely corrupt world, a force such as the Russian military would dispose of Putin, execute the Oligarchs, thoroughly nuke Israel and destroy control centres of the Zionist’s puppet regimes in Europe and America. Plus forever, and by whatever means, erasing Kabbalism and Talmuddism.
Only then could there be any possibility of peace or justice. Unfortunately, there is not a sane world and the one that exists is utterly rotten.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 23 2025 17:40 utc | 66

smartfox | Oct 23 2025 17:13 utc | 52
 
Thanks for your reply. Yes, to properly demilitarize Ukraine and NATO Odessa must return to Russia, the Transdniestria region assimilated, Moldova perhaps absorbed over a few more years, and the Romanians and Bulgars reminded where their economic future lies. The Turks are an interesting case. Their turn to the East will take 10-15 more years to solidify. Denazification as many including myself noted from the SMO’s outset will take several generations to accomplish, and then a hardcore 5% or so will still remain similar to the number of people who still admire Hitler and those who take the Old Testament as fact instead of myth.
 
The Great Disruption that will soon occur will be the bursting of the Outlaw US Empire’s Everything Bubble where the world’s resilience will depend on how well it’s decoupled itself from the dollar system. Quite a lot of work on the latter still must be done.    

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 17:44 utc | 67

“US government debt just broke over $38 trillion dollars, growing much faster than the NVIDIA bubble.”Ha, what do you think feeds the bubble in the first place.  2020 was a financial crisis that was covered up with mass hysteria about a virus.  None of the problems from 2008 were ever fixed, because to let true capitalism happen, those who rule us must fail.  And yet most here whine about capitalism.  wankers.

Posted by: Mr. House | Oct 23 2025 17:47 utc | 68

With Pokrovsk and Myrnograd falling, the flood gates are opening to the westen Donetsk and eastern Dnepropetrovsk region.
https://t.me/Anlystintel/27709

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 23 2025 17:50 utc | 69

This is what is so scary about the Ukraine conflict: it is that one intuitively knows that Putin has offered numerous off-ramps and face-saving gestures to the west that, while ending the conflict, would make it appear to western audiences that Russia was retiring out of weakness and that the west had won the day. 
 
These were the compromises that Putin was ready to grant and it would have proven immensely advantageous for the Ukrainians, if only they might have silenced their Russophobic, Nazi-wannabes. 
 
So the scary part of all this is what Mitch McConnell euphemized above, but instead of it merely being about saving-face and not making America look weak, it is, in fact, completely and totally of existential concern. 
 
The west is a hollowed-out simulacrum of its former dream-self as the City on the Hill. Awoken to a startle, it now threatens to drag everyone to hell with it. 
 
Not good.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 23 2025 17:53 utc | 70

Putin says potential American Tomahawks for Zelensky an ‘attempt at ESCALATION’
‘If such weapons are used against Russia, our response will be OVERWHELMING’

https://t.me/rtnews/117553
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 17:58 utc | 71

“You have to hold my feet to the fire,” quoting Obama. same of Trump. You believers must make your Messiah into your fantasy of the Peace and Prosperity POTUS (not the pedo potus) by holding his feet to the fire. how else will anyone hear you all stop whining about how Adam Schiff or the butcher of Libya Hilary or the Deep State are stopping America’s greatest product from succeeding?
 
and if Gog doesn’t defeat Super Mecha Magog, will those Temple Red Heifer ashes even work? if not, how can John Hagee and Franklin Graham and co force the Apocalypse by killing some cows raised in Texas to resanctify the new temple? and after Israel acquires those cows’ essence and super powers, by killing them of course, who will be able to stop them? maybe not even the nation of slaves that brought you the Big Mac, eats cow for breakfast, and worships gold.
 
ugh. “in the mouth of madness.” in the west, people cannot notice that Moscow is being fired upon, not Brussels, not Paris, not London, not DC.

Posted by: duck n cover | Oct 23 2025 18:01 utc | 72

🔘 Colonelcassad publishes interesting statistics on the exchange of fallen soldiers between Russia and Ukraine.

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/49723
 
It amounts to  39:1  (Ukraine:Russia) for the year of 2025

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 18:05 utc | 73

The US Federal Govt. is insolvent now-it isn’t about math, it is about confidence.
 
Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 16:45 utc | 29
 

 
In a nutshell, this.
 
Trump isn’t waffling. He is filibustering.
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 23 2025 18:07 utc | 74

Putins latest comments demand that the dialogue with the USA continues.
A ridiculous position to hold 

Posted by: Night Tripper | Oct 23 2025 18:10 utc | 75

On and off faster and faster is the modus

❗️Putin-Trump Budapest meeting ‘NOT completely off the table’ — White House
‘We want to make sure there’s a tangible, positive outcome out of that meeting’

https://t.me/rtnews/117571
 
These utterings have become meaningless

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 18:13 utc | 76

Trump can’t end the war in Ukraine because there are no levers in reach for him to pull. The US had multiple opportunities to end the war in the first year and probably in the second. But the US neocon-dominated State Dept. blew past every exit ramp until there were none left. 
 
Economic sanctions were supposed to cripple the Russian economy and create social-political unrest. And that did not happen. Military force applied through Ukraine was supposed to demolish the Russian military which supposedly depended on soldiers running into battle with WW2 battle-shovels and the electronic systems supposedly depended on scarce computer chips that required scavenging from old washing machines. And the military collapse also did not happen, nor did the populace rise up against its leaders and protest the war. Instead, large numbers of men volunteered to fight and Putin’s popularity only rose higher. 
 
The US has exactly two tools for foreign policy: (1) Economic Sanctions, and (2) Military Force. Neither of these has produced any positive results against Russia. But, having only those two tools, the US has no option except to keep using them.
 
Now, a reasonable person may ask at this point, “Why doesn’t the US just engage in standard diplomacy with Russia and negotiate a peace that reduces the ongoing damage to the US economy and Ukraine’s existence as a country?”
 
And the simple answer is that the whole conflict can only be understood in terms of global geopolitics and the desire for US empire strategists to maintain unipolar domination of the global economy as long as possible. That strategy requires the US to confront and overcome the challenge of rising China. And the US cannot pivot toward China without first disposing of Russia. There is simply no alternative; the US cannot confront a combined Russia-China alliance, and the US cannot confront China while Russia remains a military peer. This is the bind or, if you will, the corner into which the US has painted itself. And there is no way out other than to yield global dominance, which is a bitter pill to swallow. 
 
As long as that pill is too bitter, the US has no alternative but to escalate. 
 
Will saner minds prevail before thermonuclear armageddon? I deeply hope so. 

Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 23 2025 18:16 utc | 77

@Clever Dog | Oct 23 2025 18:16 utc | 77

Trump can’t end the war in Ukraine because there are no levers in reach for him to pull. 

Nonsense. If he was in control he could say “all intelligence, money and weapons to Ukraine stops now”.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 18:19 utc | 78

“These utterings have become meaningless..”
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 18:13 utc | 76
 
You have insulted the word, ‘meaningless” : it is several rungs higher than this discourse.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 18:20 utc | 79

Global oil prices will increase and Russia will find ways to market its oil at higher prices.
First time poster here. While I appreciate all of your military analysis (and that you’ve been more accurate than most about the course of the SMO) there is no evidence for your statement about future oil prices–just the opposite has occurred over the past couple of years and the reason is that the West has an outsized influence on nearly all the OPEC producers ex Iran. Toppling Iran and Venezuela is the obvious next step towards total domination and, should that occur, the BRICS experiment is over. Few commentators mention the effect of low oil prices as a major contributing factor to the collapse of the USSR–and getting the price down <$10/bbl again appears to be the goal 
 

Posted by: …or it’s ‘Uranus’ | Oct 23 2025 18:22 utc | 80

Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 17:58 utc | 71
 
Just read the presser transcript. Here’s the ending exchange as I read it:
 

In your opinion, is this still an escalation?
Vladimir Putin: This is an attempt at escalation. But if such a weapons will strike at Russian territory, the response will be very serious, if not stunning. Let them think about it.

 
At the outset, Putin displayed some of his humor:
 

Today, the European Union has introduced more anti-Russian sanctions: now toilet bowls, toys with motors, puzzles, tricycles are banned.
How can you do all this comment?
Vladimir Putin: The fact that the purchase of our toilets has been cancelled will cost them dearly; in general, it seems to me that they would be needed in today’s situation, if they continue the same policy towards the Russian Federation. 

 
Continuing to talk is absolutely the correct policy direction. About talking, Putin made two other addresses today: One to the Geography Society and the other for a new policy grouping, Council for the Implementation of the State Demographic and Family Policy.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 18:23 utc | 81

Trumps equvacation is thee problem., and it’s deliberate.
 
When he use’s the word peace he means Russia should surender. He curupts everything even the english language.
 
He rattled on and bragged about makeing the biggest peace deal ever , in Gaza., now look at that situation.
 
Trump could end this war in ukraine today, by just packing up his shit and going home , telling  europe its over. No more weapons from america. Unfreezing russias assits and ending sanctions.
 
What do we think Russia would do  invade europe ?    ha ha ha give me a break.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 23 2025 18:31 utc | 82

…or it’s ‘Uranus’ | Oct 23 2025 18:22 utc | 80
 
Since the SMO began and heavy sanctions on Russian hydrocarbons appeared, oil price has dropped about 50% to the point where WTI went to $58, which is below the breakeven price for fracking, a very dangerous situation. At the presser, Putin mentioned current levels of oil production for the top three–US, Saudi and Russia–while also pointing to the fact that the US consumes far more than it produces despite the fact that it brags about being an oil exporter, the difference being about 6.5 Million bbls/day. Thus, stability of the international price and supply of oil is critical for the Outlaw US Empire’s economy far more so than for Russia which consumes much less than it produces. The new sanctions on Russian energy firms will have the same effect on Russia as the sanctioning of its toilets.   

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 18:33 utc | 83

The Jewish-neoliberal Trojan horse and its Bagage have reached the bottom of the ladder… The missiles have been flying since yesterday (Briansk)… No reaction!!! There will be a nuclear strike by the Americans, in my opinion there can be no doubt about that… But they were INVITED! The Russians are obviously too stupid to understand that they are being led by this horse to total catastrophe… Truly most remarkable!!!

Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Oct 23 2025 18:38 utc | 84

“Few commentators mention the effect of low oil prices as a major contributing factor to the collapse of the USSR–and getting the price down <$10/bbl again appears to be the goal ” 
Posted by: …or it’s ‘Uranus’ | Oct 23 2025 18:22 utc | 80
 
Trump just had the SPR buy 1 MM barrels of oil; if the idea was to bring oil down to $10/bbl they wouldn’t be buying oil at $58/bbl
 
As $10 oil would destroy the American producer much worse than Russias’.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 18:38 utc | 85

Imagine if someone at MoA had predicted this precisely 12 months ago.
 
Crazy, right?
 
Here is another one. The war cannot be ended from the American end. It ends when Russia decides so, and no sooner. Everything the West does until then is like a fish on a hook fighting against being reeled in.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 23 2025 18:39 utc | 86

@karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 18:33 utc | 83
 
Excellent point on oil price/US consumption. Thanks.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 18:39 utc | 87

Continuity of agenda.
Trump completed his primary task which was to reduce the tax liability of the wealthiest Americans and promote austerity for the rest.
Another priority is to cash in on the office of the president before his term expires.

Posted by: Frank | Oct 23 2025 18:48 utc | 88

Russia’s Military Revolution: How Russia Rewired Its Army While NATO Slept

 

Larry Johnson and Stanislav Karpivnik — a former U.S. and Russian Army officer — break down how Russia rebuilt its army while the world wasn’t watching. From hour-long artillery delays to five-minute strikes, from the Kharkov turning point to NATO’s stagnation, this discussion exposes how the future of war is being rewritten on the battlefield — and what it means for the West. Check out the full episode:    • Stanislav Krapivnik: US vs Russian Militar…   00:00 From an HOUR to FIVE Minutes to Fire: Russia’s Battlefield Revolution 00:32 Kharkov: The Battle That Rewired the Russian Army 03:45 The Long Game: Why Russia Learns Faster Than NATO 06:29 Lessons from History: Russia’s Steep Learning Curve 10:00 The Endgame: What Breaks First — Ukraine or the West?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNHtDrlA4U

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 23 2025 18:50 utc | 89

@ Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2025 18:19 utc | 78
 
You really just don’t get it. You the the US President can snap his fingers and make new foreign policyl Try reading/watching/listening to John Mearsheimer. He is a Great Powers/Realist/RealPolitik political scientist since way back, and a US booster to boot, so his bona fides are strong. He would like to see the US drop Ukraine and actually pivot toward China (without war) because he wants the US to remain strong. (I on the other hand do not.) If you will take the time to read his writings and watch a few of his video interviews, I think you will come to agree that there is a trajectory and momentum to US foreign policy and that it is beyond any individual to change that. Global events will indeed change it, and that’s what we are watching now. And the outcome is far from certain.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 23 2025 18:56 utc | 90

War-mongering weapons investors want the war to continue indefinitely because the longer it lasts, the richer they get.

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Oct 23 2025 18:56 utc | 91

Trump is angling for a European war.

Posted by: elmagnostic | Oct 23 2025 18:57 utc | 92

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2025 18:33 utc | 83
 
No doubt you are correct about sanctions unless they can ultimately squeeze India into compliance. But hurting US producers short-term would be a small price to pay for the Empire if Russia is faced with a substantial reduction in oil revenues. DT has said on several occasions (paraphrasing) “We’ve done a good job of keeping oil prices low”

Posted by: …or it’s ‘Uranus’ | Oct 23 2025 19:04 utc | 93

POTUS is a PIRATE
US: Asset price inflation – stocks, bonds, real estate  – Hudson with Wolff on Nima
Warren Buffet said much the same recently – and seniors in US will take a huge hit … homeless
Small investors will be wiped out …
So back to Wolff’s dialectic – Public vs Private or in neo_marxist Franfurther terms – Money vs Power
 
# So back to China & Power(CPC) manages Private(Money)
 
# Europe – obedient Lemmings of the US Empire – heading for the cliff …
 
Richard D. Wolff & Michael Hudson: Trump FUMES as China, India & Russia Unite — The Shift Begins!
 
What a depressing sh1te day to be a European

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 23 2025 19:05 utc | 94

All I see is a war expanding, not contracting, in nature. There is this habit of attributing blame and action to Ukraine even though this country is just the means. Ukraine is a platform, a vehicle through which the US empire that can only sustain itself by feeding on others is attacking Russia proper. This “overwhelming response” that will follow US/UK attacks using long range nuclear capable missiles deep inside Russia… one can hope it will be restrained limiting the “overwhelming response” within the Ukraine theater of war. Logic however would dictate a direct attack on the nation pulling the strings.

Posted by: xor | Oct 23 2025 19:05 utc | 95

But hurting US producers short-term would be a small price to pay for the Empire if Russia is faced with a substantial reduction in oil revenues. DT has said on several occasions (paraphrasing) “We’ve done a good job of keeping oil prices low”
 
Posted by: …or it’s ‘Uranus’ | Oct 23 2025 19:04 utc | 92
 
#######
 
All that is available to the Yanks now are short-term moves.
 
Russia is selling oil through contracts and isn’t as vulnerable to market pricing as your thinking suggests.
 
Sanctions only work if America had the leverage that it imagines that it does.
 
Meanwhile, the ROW has banded together such that Western sanctions are relatively meaningless.
 
Everyone is trading around the US and Europe, opening up and developing new markets.
 
IMO, it’s been BDS against America by China and Russia for 2 years.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 23 2025 19:09 utc | 96

@ Posted by: canuk | Oct 23 2025 18:38 utc | 85
 
That has already happened once, when Obama engineered an oil price collapse back in 2014, from late summer of that year until early winter of 2015. There is practically no discussion in the major media about that event, except to say that ‘there was a glut of oil’. Well, yes, the price dropped because there was a glut, but how did a glut occur so rapidly that the price of crude fell from $98/bbl to $48/bbl in less than 6 months? The answer is that the US convinced/persuaded/bribed Saudi Arabia to open the oil spigot in order to damage the Russian economy (and indeed the Russian economy took a hit). At the same time, the drop in oil price caused a broad collapse in the oil fracking industry in the US and many small operators went under, throwing a lot of folks out of work.
 
There’s no doubt that State Dept. neo-cons are thinking similar ideas now as they flail about looking for a weapon against Russia. But, as in 2014, the self-inflicted domestic damage will be greater than the damage inflicted on the foreign opponent. And other producers, e.g., OPEC, will also feel the pain and may protest.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 23 2025 19:10 utc | 97

If Trump’s fat ass were  to be struck by lightning, the smell of bacon would be everywhere.

Posted by: Space Cowboy | Oct 23 2025 19:12 utc | 98

@Karlof1 
 
Good point about oil at $58 being an existential threat to US fracking-based oil production.  That’s a dot that needed to be connected.  The toothless sanctions are likely aimed at jacking up the price of oil to the point where they can be profitable.
 
Of course, this works at cross-purposes if the other goal is to hurt Russia with lower oil prices.  Another example of the empire flailing around in a chaotic and impotent manner, as there are no longer any good choices, just less bad ones.
 
 

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 23 2025 19:13 utc | 99

🇪🇺🏴‍☠️🇺🇦👉🇷🇺 The EC has exhausted all the resources to finance Kiev from the EU budget for 2021-2027. This is the main reason for the attempts to expropriate Russian assets, a source in Antwerp’s financial circles said.z and v
 
methinks time for Russia to put all its own sanctions against USA and Europe…uranium titanium etc etc and thus will  call EU bluff re their timetable of cutting off russian oil and gas, maybe time for Hungary to cut off that electricity xupply it sends to Ukraine.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 23 2025 19:17 utc | 100