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October 19, 2025
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2025-242

Last week’s posts on Moon of Alabama:


Other issues:

Gaza:

Empire:

Ukraine:

Rare Earth / China:

Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

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Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 20 2025 0:14 utc | 70      After mindlessly repeating BS from Scott Bessent  and so on about antifa terrorism and No Kings this person (loosely speaking) promptly complains about how the protesters were all wearing inflatables. That’s not true either of course. But to falsely charge terrorism  and simultaneously complain because they are contemptibly harmless? Evidently this person is the kind of moral pervert who admires Trumpian/fascist ruthlessness as strength. Trump cultists always make that extra effort to earn contempt.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 20 2025 10:58 utc | 101

Tannenhouser @94: “They [authorities] could just put in the effort and work to identify and arrest those who shouldn’t be there.”
 
That’s not how you defeat a color revolution attempt, which is what we are seeing. The illegals are just a catalyst for the action, not the point of it.
 
You defeat a color revolution by firmly containing the staged events while being careful not to create martyrs (provocateurs will try to make sure there are martyrs and must be guarded against). Where the provocateurs and paid activists are identified, crush them like bugs (but gently, no martyrs, remember?). Make their participation not worth their paychecks from Soros and Omidyar. Go after the money sources and make things expensive for them. If you can get the goods on the top money sources, like the Chinese did in Hong Kong, then bankrupt them. If the money sources are foreign, then seize their assets and kick them out.
 
Be gentle (with a smile!) with the useful idiots caught up in festive atmosphere while dealing harshly with the provocateurs. Worked great for the Chinese and the Russians, didn’t it?

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 20 2025 11:06 utc | 102

@karlof1 | Oct 19 2025 21:24 utc | 54
Your characterisation of the Early US does not give justice to the circles of Alexander Hamilton. His thinking was more like current China than like its mother country Great Britain.Hamilton favoured means to train and practise creativity creating new industries and so forth. At the time Britain was more like the US today.
 
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 20 2025 9:58 utc | 96
 
No, Hamilton showed his treacherous colours when he convinced Washington to develop the first national bank in 1791-which was a cover for the City of London
 
Andrew Jackson closed the Bank in the 1830’s the bank failed in 1841.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 20 2025 11:17 utc | 103

What was the situation with Nexperia’s export of chips to China for “testing” and “packaging”, before the Dutch pirates came in, does somebody know? @C1ue for example (as someone who if I am not mistaken has experience in this field)?
Are we talking about whole wafers of chips before cutting, or wafers after cutting, or chips “packaged” in plastic/ceramic cases with pins (for subsequent outer packaging in China such as tape-and-reel)? As I see it both the last options are massively unrealistic both economically and organisationally, only sending whole wafers to China for subsequent processing makes any sense (in any case the main testing is on the wafer itself, although the packaged product should have some testing as well). 
In that case, China has the pirated company very thoroughly by the goolies, if the pirates really refuse to let go. Squeeze tightly China! China also should have sufficient leverage on Germany to force “reasonable and self-interested” parties to cooperate with China, although Germans these days are neither reasonable nor capable of rational action in their own self interest, so we shall have to see how it turns out.
If they had any sense (in case the suicidal Dutch refuse to let go), the Germans will refuse to recognise Dutch control of headquarters and allow the Hamburg factory to be snipped out from Netherlands and reverted to Chinese control.
Something tells me the Germans will (a) try to pressure Amsterdam to submit to Chinese control under Chinese terms (or go halfway); and (b) after that fails commit full hari-kiri and do a Nord-Stream 2.0. In that case the hari-kiri will apply not only to losing semiconductor jobs and production, but also hari-kiri for the whole German auto industry (including parts manufacture by independent companies which is a huge part of the industry).

Posted by: BM | Oct 20 2025 11:59 utc | 104

I used to read the Sirus Report and would sometimes see something on how much gold various non western central banks were buying monthly. Many thousands of tons have been pulled out of circulation over the last decade or so.
 
India. Indians tend to put spare cash into gold jewelry rather than in a bank. i Think it was in Bangkok, I walked past a gold shop and it was filled with Indians buying gold chains and that sort of thing. Just all gold in that shop. Although not as much as China, India is starting to prosper so I assume they will be buying a huge amount of gold with their spare cash.
 
It would be interesting to know the total tonnage going into just India.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 12:02 utc | 105

It would be interesting to know the total tonnage going into just India.
 
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 12:02 utc | 104
 

 
It would be more interesting to know how much metal has been sold to merchants out of lease, and how the lessors plan to make themselves whole.  Do these lessors think they can buy the metal back?
 
We will only learn the depth of rehypothecation in the monetary metals market after the lease market fails.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 20 2025 12:15 utc | 106

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 19 2025 18:25 utc | 39.
Yep. Although I don’t know anyone here personally, I feel more connected to many of you here than the people I interact with in my daily life…including my so-called friends. Even though I don’t agree with several posters on a fundamental level, I’ll still learn something. I guess it helps round our perspectives on the world…and hopefully creates a consensus of sorts (or maybe at least an acceptance of our differences).
 
Thank you, Bernhard, you provide one of the rare corners of the digital world that are worth participating in. 

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 20 2025 12:16 utc | 107

@too scents
Li Chenggang had been promoted to China’s trade negotiator, This is a minister level job.  As such his previous post as Chinese trade rep at the wto,  which is a vice minister level job, has to be replaced with someone else. The new trade rep had already  showed up in Geneva back in September.  So this announcement is merely a formality.

Posted by: cindy6 | Oct 20 2025 12:26 utc | 108

I don’t watch Joe Rogan but started watched the “Palmer Lucky” episode linked by “C1ue” above and I intentionally didn’t skip anything.
 
I lasted 33 minutes and 31 second and can’t take any more.
 
They’ve gone full “teenage libertarianism” can-do bullshit and they’re eating it up.
 
I made notes up until that point but I won’t bother people with it except say that Robert Bigelow “did it all” and withdrew and backed down.
 
These guys are out in the middle of the pacific clinging to driftwood loudly hallucinating and shouting in delirium. Very appropriate XD
 
One can make some sense of it but it says more about you/me than them. They still seem like nice enough people but that’s sort of irrelevant. However the strong reek of confirmation bias is overwhelming, this is so often the problem with successful/”successful” (take your pick) people and a big part of the core issue.
 
They’re not fixing anything, they are part of the problem.
 
(I have no idea why they would believe that the US DoD/War is one monolithic entity. Size alone belies the notion. The infighting, the four (or more now; six, seven, eight?) “armies”, everything.)
 
(The “legal jeopardy of disclosure” theory/argument for the maintaining of secrecy (about 25 minutes in) is both hilarious and such a secondhand thing to think of even for the more “mundane” stuff. Sovereign dominion renders it moot simply “because we say so”. These guys are clueless about actual power.)
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 20 2025 12:26 utc | 109

“…Soon after its gestation, Christianity became an Exceptionalist Religion where only the correct types of Christians were God’s likeness…” Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 19 2025 23:00 utc | 61 This is false, karlof1!  
Posted by: juliania | Oct 20 2025 5:42 utc | 88
 
________
 
Not sure about the “God’s likeness” part, but “true” Christians began prosecuting “heretics” and of course nonbelievers shortly after they acquired the temporal power to do so.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 20 2025 12:31 utc | 110

Li Chenggang had been promoted to China’s trade negotiator
 
Posted by: cindy6 | Oct 20 2025 12:26 utc | 107
 

 
Thanks for the detail. 
 
Bloomberg reports that Scott Bessent will meet with He Lifeng  for the upcoming trade negotiation.  How does Li Chenggang fit in this picture?
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 20 2025 12:47 utc | 111

Anyone here intimately familiar with SS7? I’ve just had a peek at Q.700 (only 24 pages) and seen the list of documents after “SS No. 7 consists of a number of components or functions which are defined in the Q.7xx-Series Recommendations“.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 20 2025 12:57 utc | 112

Army, Navy, Air force, Marines, Coast guard (?), Military police (?), Special forces command, Space force (?), IRS armed forces, DoE armed forces, “Homeland” armed forces …eleven so far, I think all of those are more or less independent of each other. I’m staying federal and not looking up the specific/correct names but I’m still missing some aren’t I? Who did FEMA use? Was it their own guys or someone else? If so that’s another one.
 
Not counting the ICE ones so far; too small?
 
Right/wrong?
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 20 2025 13:29 utc | 113

Reuters is reporting on the wrench being thrown into the gears of trade
 
Fall in China’s exports of rare earth magnets stokes supply chain fears

China’s exports of rare earth magnets fell in September, reigniting fears that the world’s top supplier could wield its dominance over a component key for U.S. defence firms and makers of items from cars to smartphones as leverage in trade talks.

 
The devil in mw wants Trump to dig down more on this issue and really halt arms manufacturing entirely in the West……..if the military punch bowl goes away, what happens?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 20 2025 13:45 utc | 114

Caitlin Johnstone has a post about the “No Kings” protests.
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/us-politics-is-just-nonstop-fake
 
 
The cover picture to go with her article shows an ‘Ozzie and Harriet’ revolutionary couple holding a sign that says,
“If Kamala had won we’d be at Brunch”
The couple didn’t even originate the cute saying themselves, it can be found throughout.
====
I especially liked this comment posted with her article:[barfly historians can verify the history (or not)]
====
“If Kamala had won we’d be at Brunch”
Seems like there must be something one can create with that.
 
When North Vietnam was being bombed daily by Nixon & Kissingerthe North Vietnamese people knew that they could come out of their shelters during the noon houras the bomber pilots would return to their bases/carriers for lunch <<==== True History !!
 
B is for bomber
R is for Run, as in bombing Run
lunch is, well, lunch
 
Spells ‘BRunch’
 
Perhaps illustrate a picnic scene hosted by Kackling Kamala – brunch, of course – on the front lawn of the White House, with every attendee – men, women, children and they – wearing a Pussyhat. And B-52 bombers in formation overhead — spelling out ‘Brunch Time’ — and on their way back from a bombing run on just about every continent imaginable.
 
 
========================
 
 
“If Kamala had won we’d be at Brunch”, kiss my ass, revolutionaries
 

Posted by: Otto Penn | Oct 20 2025 13:49 utc | 115

really halt arms manufacturing entirely in the West
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 20 2025 13:45 utc | 113
 

 
They’ll confiscate and recycle personal technology to recover critical minerals before arms production stops.
 
The rare earths imbroglio is just a side show for more fundamental supply chain issues.  Industrial silver consumption for example.  
 
Also at about $5500/oz gold will surpass the US $ as the leading central bank reserve asset.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 20 2025 13:57 utc | 116

From ZH in support of too scents above
 
Gold Rises To A Record 30% Of Global Reserve Holdings; Will Overtake USD Above $5,790/oz

 

Gold’s share global reserve holdings has risen from 24% at the end of June to 30% currently taking the spot gold price into account. And once gold tops $5,790, it will become the largest reserve asset in the world

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 20 2025 14:04 utc | 117

@too scents #25
How are cryptocurrencies,a counterpoint?
Because they are also going up? That’s also a function of the excess liquidity sloshing around.
The difference between cryptocurrencies and gold, is that the present prices of cryptocurrencies are 99% speculation while gold is probably 40% to 60% speculation. Let’s not forget that cryptocurrencies – using bitcoin as a proxy – saw bitcoin at $6000 in spring 2020. It is literally 20x that now.
There’s a second bit of evidence: gold dropped $200 last Friday. This should never happen if, in fact, the true primary driver of gold price increases were central bank ramping up gold holdings.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 14:17 utc | 118

@Peter AU1 #29
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but unsupported opinions are nonsense.
Give me some evidence and facts to support why my chain of logic is wrong.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 14:18 utc | 119

@Roger Boyd #53
Explain what I am misusing and what your supposed correct definition is.
I will note that anyone relying on the modern version of reading chicken entrails: “technical analysis”, is extremely low credibility in my view.
The problem with technical analysis is not that nobody can be successful with it – the problem is that literally every single type of technical analysis is extremely subject to interpretation. Changing time scales, changing “important levels”, changing “trigger points” etc etc are precisely the type of unscientific practices used by witch doctors in the past. Which is another way of saying that you can use technical analysis to justify literally anything.
The successful types are the very few ones who use technical analysis to justify their expert grasp of the market; it is well documented that experienced practitioners in any subject have skill that they cannot document or express, but which exists.
But fools who think it is the reverse, well, time wounds all heels.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 14:24 utc | 120

karlof1@62……talk about nit picking, you jump from Genesis to Christianity in a foul swoop……fuck man, what about the thousands of years of degenerate Hebrews that preceded Christianity. In the closet by any chance.
 
Cheers M 

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 20 2025 14:27 utc | 121

@Sunny Runny Burger #30
That is why I said you should skip the beginning part – you missed the actual meat because you were turned off by the fluff.
Note I am not saying that Palmer Luckey is correct in every regard. Certainly I don’t agree with him in much of the large hodgepodge of beliefs he put forward in a free ranging 2+ hour talk.
Nonetheless, here are some important points which I did learn something new (from memory so may not be 100% accurate):

  1. The comparisons of Chinese car stability (ie the filled champagne glass) vs. American cars is stupid and invalid. The reason is that anyone, even of relatively modest means in China, has a driver. Tesla’s best selling car in China is nothing like what they sell in the US – it is 2 very large back bucket seat, tiny front seats vehicle because the people who buy it have drivers.
  2. For Chinese buyers of cars, the drivers’ comfort is irrelevant because they are the “help”, and actual owners in the back seat want a limousine experience in contrast to American wealthy drivers – who want road feel.
  3. Chinese cars are cheap because they have much cheaper costs of materials due to energy and other reasons
    1. [c1ue: It isn’t just that, it is also purchasing power parity, lack of legacy costs like pensions for a century of ex-workers, etc etc]
  4. “Import” cars in the US – most of them are made in the US by foreign companies so don’t get the advantage of purchasing power parity differences.
  5. Chinese cars are cheaper and better. $4000 gets you a great car whereas the cheapest car on the US market is $17000 – Nissan Versa being one and I can’t remember the other – which are crap.
  6. WW2 US production was not just GM switching from cars to tanks, it was John Deere switching from tractors to tanks, it was [?maybe wrong memory]aluminum siding companies making aircraft parts.
    1. US arms designers would design their weapons platforms to fit specific, previously non-MIC factory capabilities as opposed to the other way around.
    2. Anduril is seeking to do the same: create weapons platforms that can be made in GM factories as opposed to custom MIC factories, because you cannot scale up a custom MIC factory but you could scale up if GM can make the platform
    3. He then contradicts this by talking about some fancy coating for drones
      1. [c1ue: why exactly do you need fancy coatings for expendable drones? Not clear to me.]
    4. He talks about a “loyal companion” AI fighter which Anduril won the contract for over LockMar and Boeing[?maybe someone else]
      1. The loyal companion is useful because while the US Air Force has a tactics manual based on its 70 years of experience for optimal combat behavior, there is another manual of tactics which you don’t use because they are low success rate and/or suicidal. An AI loyal companion fighter jet is much cheaper and could do these tactics
      2. That the loyal companions can have greater performance because they are not limited by human body frailty or human limited reaction speeds
        1. The problem is – if the controller is flying with them, you’re still going to be limited by the controller’s capabilities if the controller flies with them. If the controller is far away, then you have huge vulnerability in comms and command/control latency.
      3. [c1ue: there are many problems with this loyal companion idea
        1. the AI companions are going to be reliable to start with
        2. that the “master” pilot cannot be identified and taken out – Palmer showed pic and boasted how the loyal companion doesn’t have a cockpit – well, that’s an easy well to tell which to shoot down first, yo
        3. that comms will not be interfered with/unavailable
        4. that the loyal companions can adapt to changing opposition tactics quickly and consistently
        5. that the Western reliance on aerial attack is even feasible in the era of Oreshniks hitting airfields, of obviously powerful and ubiquitous air defense systems with Mach 14+ interceptor speeds.]
    5. Palmer talks about Barracudas and similar systems being used to defend Taiwan.
      1. The Barracuda is a $100K or so [cheap by US MIC standards], relatively short range ground attack missile.
      2. [c1ue: The problem is that while the Barracuda probably would be effective should China try to invade Taiwan, IMO China doesn’t need to invade Taiwan. All that China needs to do is sink every ship coming near it; Taiwan will starve in 6 months and surrender.
        1. In this context – the Barracuda is basically useless. Chinese oceanic interdiction can be from as far away as 2000 km, but this isn’t necessary since I am sure China has all sorts of mobile and entrench systems on Chinese land that starts a mere 200 km from Taiwan.]

Overall, I think Palmer has a realistic understanding of just how fucked US MIC capability is right now. Not clear to me that his solutions will resolve these core problems given that the real issue is a US nationwide relative paucity of manufacturing, but it is certainly an improvement on the existing US MIC incompetence.
His faith in “new” systems like drones is also clearly amateurish. 
This is a spark gap transmitter.
Before the advent of crystal based radios, spark gap transmitters were used to generate radio signals. They are a terrible way to generate clean, clear radio signals but they are very cheap. You can make a spark gap transmitter for under $100 and you don’t need anything in terms of industrial equipment or fancy materials or whatever. Spark gap transmitters’ problem is noise, but they generate powerful radio signals. Well, if you want a jammer, noisy is not an issue!
The ITU – the International Telecommunication Union, used to be International Telegraph Union – which is the international entity that governs radios and communications via satellite etc, banned spark gap transmitters in 1924 precisely because of the [unintentional] noisy jamming tendency of this tech in favor of vacuum tube transmitters, which in turn gave way to the present day crystal based.
Anyway, a backpack sized spark gap transmitter can shut down all radio comms in a several hundred meter radius over a wide band of frequencies; the frequency band range can be changed by simply switching out antennas.
If you want to take down comms for everybody – that’s how you do it.
Now imagine what a truck sized spark gap transmitter would do. Or a ship sized one.
And this is only one of the obvious low tech ways to attack Western comms dependent Command and Control methodology.
Shooting down satellites – which is what happens in a real war – would be the very first step.
Shooting down AWACS, firing hypersonic and/or Oreshnik missiles at any and all sources of radio commands would be an ongoing military objective.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 15:04 utc | 122

spark gap pic – with shorter link

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 15:08 utc | 123

@ Tannenhouser | Oct 19 2025 22:57 utc | 61
thanks! i see and read the link at this and got the link o@ 94 as well.. i did see your note on the previous thread as well..  i think that is all plausible.. i once travelled to the area where the hopi and zuni people lived and read up on them too…  not sure if that is the oldest dated areas for indigenous peoples on the north american continent or not.. 
 
@ Tannenhouser | Oct 20 2025 9:45 utc | 94
thanks! ICE acting like brownshirts – yes, as i see it too..  here is an article from ken klippenstein which articulates much of this.. 
 
William Gruff | Oct 20 2025 11:06 utc | 101
see the article above from klippenstein… tell me if you think he has it wrong.. 
 
 
 juliania | Oct 20 2025 10:45 utc | 99
 
i think it was leo toltstoy who suggested venerating ikons was much essentially idolatry…  what are your thoughts on this juliania?  as an outsider, it seems that way to me… 
 

Posted by: james | Oct 20 2025 15:16 utc | 124

Here is Putin speaking
 
Everyone has already seen how “the same elites of Western countries suddenly refused to service fuel and energy equipment supplied to Russia, officially declared that they would not fulfill their obligations, only once again demonstrating that they are unreliable partners,” Putin noted.
“Their actions are directly linked to the political climate, and sometimes this political climate is exploited for unfair competition. Clearly the commercial entities were forced to act this way, to be honest, I’m talking about Western commercial entities, <…> under the pressure from their ruling [elites]. But the fact remains,” he stressed.”
 
Now most everyone on this board says that it is the elites and very wealthy that are really running the show but I keep seeing where many large enterprises suffer from government decisions to ban this or that. In many cases now it is actually devastating some industries.
 
 

Posted by: arby | Oct 20 2025 15:19 utc | 125

“I will note that anyone relying on the modern version of reading chicken entrails: “technical analysis”, is extremely low credibility in my view.”
 
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 14:24 utc | 119
 
On a humorous note don’t tell that to Roman consul Claudius Pulcher:
 
“The story of Claudius Pulcher and the sacred chickens is a tale from the First Punic War where the Roman consul threw the chickens overboard when they refused to eat, leading to a disastrous naval defeat at the Battle of Drepana and his subsequent trial for impiety and exile. The act of discarding the sacred birds, which were used to predict battle outcomes, defied Roman religious customs and ultimately resulted in a significant loss for the Roman fleet. 

  • The ritual: Before a battle, Roman commanders would consult sacred chickens by offering them food. If the chickens ate, it was considered a good omen to fight; if they refused, it was a bad omen.
  • The incident: In 249 BC, before the Battle of Drepana, the sacred chickens refused to eat. Pulcher, frustrated and impatient, threw them into the sea, famously saying, “If they won’t eat, let them drink!”.
  • The consequence: The Roman fleet suffered a crushing defeat at Drepana, losing a large number of ships.”

Posted by: canuk | Oct 20 2025 15:28 utc | 126

c1ue | Oct 20 2025 15:04 utc | 121
 
Pepe Escobar has just traveled extensively in China making a documentary. The ordinary person in China is prospering and they drive themselves around same as people in the west. The only difference – they have top quality affordable electric cars.
 
Your former question. Although I don’t read much now, I have read a huge amount over the years. Although I dont have instant recall like some, it always remains in the subconscious and influences thoughts.  
 
You may think that foolish, but those that relied purely on what they thought was solid data are all dead. ‘
When learning to fly, I went and stayed in the clubhouse. the theory lessons were basic and the instructor was hapless in in teaching during the practical flights. But in the afternoons, we would sit on the veranda of the clubhouse having a couple of beers. He would be relaxed and just talk about flying and I just listened. It was those afternoons that kept me alive. It was always there in my subconscious.
In a tight spot, there is no time for analysis and conscious decision making. Its a matter of operating from the subconscious and reacting very fast.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 15:40 utc | 127

Can barflies find a shred of morality in the following from Reuters?
 
In Trump’s drug war, prisoners may be too much of a legal headache, experts say

When two alleged drug traffickers survived a U.S. military strike last week in the Caribbean, they left the Trump administration with a decision to make: send them back home, or find a way to keep them detained.

Where is the discussion about what the international legal responsibility is for all humans?
 
We really are reverting to the barbaric patriarchy that birthed monotheism, IMO.  The fig leaf of international law and acceptable human behavior has been torn off and the God Of Mammon cult of exceptionalism and their jackboot of global private finance and might-makes-right militarism is at the end of its run.  The sausage making process of moving society forward from here is going to be messy.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 20 2025 15:42 utc | 128

psychohistorian | Oct 20 2025 15:42 utc | 127
 
The western UN has now gone the way of the legue of Nations. It ended with the Iran snapback and China and Russia publicly stating they would not abide by those sanctions as it was the west that had pulled out of the nuke deal.
 
In the west, we are now going into a period of total lawlessness and great change. The WWII west is primarily the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 15:50 utc | 129

That should have been – “The post WWII west”….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 15:51 utc | 130

Regarding my 126 And all the information that goes into the subconscious.
 
Putin – I studied him and Russia a lot after MH17 was shot down. Being asked questions by the press was impressive. He must have a mind like a Chinese data bank. He may have slowed a bit in recent years but he has instant recall of all that his mind has absorbed and in great detail.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 16:06 utc | 131

EIJING, Oct. 20 (Xinhua) — The Southern Theater Command of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army on Sunday expelled an Australian P-8A military aircraft that illegally intruded into China’s territorial airspace over the Xisha Qundao, a Chinese military spokesperson said on Monday.
Li Jianjian, spokesperson for the Air Force of the theater command, said that the P-8A had illegally intruded into China’s territorial airspace over the Xisha Qundao without the approval of the Chinese government.
The theater command had organized naval and air forces to conduct tracking and surveillance, take strong countermeasures, and issue warnings to drive the Australian aircraft away in accordance with the relevant laws and regulations, Li said.
The spokesperson emphasized that Australia’s actions had seriously violated China’s sovereignty and posed a high risk of triggering maritime and air incidents.
“We sternly warn Australia to immediately cease its infringements and provocative acts,” Li stressed. “The theater command’s troops remain on high alert at all times and will resolutely safeguard national sovereignty and security, and regional peace and stability.” ■

Posted by: arby | Oct 20 2025 16:24 utc | 132

Pale faced, forked tongue
 
Re
China’s application to relocate its embassy denied
 
Brit to Victor Gao
 

What about the allegation that China want that bldg in order to tap into communication cables going into LOndon ?
 
What about a reader’s view that ‘China is a malicious dictatorship and the stated aim is to bring commie rule worldwide by any means and is prepared to use lying and falsification , is that a fair description ?

 

Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2025 16:51 utc | 133

arby | Oct 20 2025 16:24 utc | 131
 
We now have an American military headquarters here in Australia and I think is is safe to assume the Australian military are now firmly under the command of the American military.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 16:58 utc | 134

Poser
How do western leaders/media get away with all that outrageous lies ?
 
Hell,China bashing is a sure fire way to win votes during election. !——————————
 
Pale faced, forked tongueCNA
MI5 chief
 

China poses ‘daily threat’ to UK,

 
I didnt bother to watch the vid, went straight to the comments hoping to fine some sanity, shouldnt have bothered, total madness.Here’r some samples, you get the drift
————————-
*THIS IS IT. WE NOW KNOW WHO IS BEHIND ALL THIS SHITE WE HAVE BEEN LIVING THROUGH. FOO MAN CHOO. AND HIS SMOKING BAT. AND EXPLODING ELECTRIC GOODS
*China is not interested in diplomacy.
There is no need for them to have an embassy in ANY western country.
Anyone sympathetic to the CCP is suspect until proven otherwise.
*We now know why Starmer gave away Chagos ! How was he allowed to do that ?
*China is highly skilled at placing its agents in positions of power and influence globally.
We should have grave reservations about all our dealings with China.
*There is no requirement for a new chinese embassy. End off
——————–

Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2025 17:39 utc | 135

Over to the Brits gringo cousin…
 
30m of high octane entertainment, especially the part where jp./kooks comment on daddy Trump !
 
We should gang up with our allies to kick the bully in the gut

Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2025 17:56 utc | 136

@BM #103
Nexperia makes its own chips in fabs in Europe as well as various parts of Asia, including China.
The issue, IMO, is that Nexperia chips were found in Russian military equipment – so this is “evidence that China is directly helping Russia in violation of EU/US sanctions” or some such.
The problem is: you can buy these chips all over the place online. Here is one example, you can google search for many more. Nor are they very expensive…

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 18:17 utc | 137

@Peter AU1 #126
What I wrote above is what Palmer Luckey said – not my view. I don’t pretend to know.
However, I will say that I don’t consider Pepe a reliable source for anything.
He is entertaining, but like his younger compatriot Danny Haiphong – China never does anything wrong and everything is perfect there for everyone.
Which is blatantly untrue.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 18:20 utc | 138

“No, Hamilton showed his treacherous colours when he convinced Washington to develop the first national bank in 1791-which was a cover for the City of London Andrew Jackson closed the Bank in the 1830’s the bank failed in 1841.”
Posted by: canuk | Oct 20 2025 11:17 utc | 102
I’m too late to answer since a new thread has opened.
But for the sakes of completeness I comment
You have both the common misconceptions among americans that I was thinking about and that makes it a good idea to read Nancy Spanaus:  Hamilton versus Wall Street
Hamilton was simply practising win-win. The bank board was not foreign controlled. Foreign investors who otherwise might have been involved in undermining the US currency instead would benefit if the US Nation builders succeeded.
Similarwise reading Anton Shaitkins historical work ‘Who we are’ vol I, is a good way to cure your misconceptions about  Britains helper Andrew Jackson. He was the first wholly foreign owned US president.
Americans dont know their own history the angloamerican elites have arranged that ignorance to keep you in the dark.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 20 2025 18:27 utc | 139

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 18:20 utc | 137
 
I agree with your scorecard on the presenters.  Foo is entertaining too but he’s always has the same old theme: US crashing , China ascending.
 
I prefer Mecouris and his Greek buddy, Alex.
 
Sometimes I watch Pierce Morgan as he puts on opposing/conflicting  ideas whereas all of the above  have interviews where they all agree.
 
Methinks one requires a  Hegelian dialectic to bet anywhere in a discussion.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 20 2025 18:29 utc | 140

Thats all folks 

Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2025 18:45 utc | 141

Hello petergrfstrm I have a query concerning things LaRouche and you have mentioned him and his ideas previously so I thought you might have some insight
 
 
In the 90’s EIR the LaRouche magazine put some effort into publicising the Paul Bonacci story. Are you aware of Bonacci’s story and if so might you have any thoughts why this editorial policy was implemented and then sustained for several years?
 
 
ps my keyboard works poorly, so typing is laborious but if you need more context I could  force a  paragraph out of it lol
 
No problem if you feel the question inconsequential  or doesn’t interest you

Posted by: will moon | Oct 20 2025 19:00 utc | 142

 How does Li Chenggang fit in this picture?
Posted by: too scents | Oct 20 2025 12:47 
Scott Bessent is projecting American politics into Chinese.  Li might have his personal flair at the negotiation table. but whatever he did you can rest assure came  with authorization from higher up.  Therefore the new extra territorial export control will stay no matter who Bessent is going to talk to.  After depleting their arms stockpile first in Ukraine and then Gaza, now is the perfect time to cut off arms supply  to the us military  with applause from around the world. The trump administration foolishly fall into a trap.

Posted by: cindy6 | Oct 20 2025 19:06 utc | 143

One more for the road…
 
Recommended…
 
Nathan Rich on China’s crackdown on xtian cult.

Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2025 19:09 utc | 144

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 20 2025 11:06 utc | 101
I can see that for sure WG.. I was giving a response to James question about ICE and its look (depending on how light reflects near you) alike the IDF. Not sure it was in a color revolution vein.  But yes. That would be part of putting in the work. In my mind anyways.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 20 2025 19:27 utc | 145

Good summary on the current state of play regarding Nexperia from smalltownvoice1.
tl;dw the West shot itself in the foot again.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Oct 20 2025 20:13 utc | 146

c1ue | Oct 20 2025 18:20 utc | 137
 
I was in China in 2013 or 14. In Bangkok a year before that. China was no different to any other Asian country. People that had their own cars drove themselves around same as we do. Many just used public transport, many live close enough to work that they ride a bike or walk. China has only prospered since then and many Chinese people go on road trips in their own cars.
 
I don’t do package tours. Just book a plane ticket and head off. In China where we stayed was off the western beaten tourist track.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 21:01 utc | 147

Glenn Greenwald
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mHM_8EIi5A
 
“Marco Rubio’s obsession with Venezuela & Cuba explained.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 20 2025 21:23 utc | 148

Anyway, a backpack sized spark gap transmitter can shut down all radio comms in a several hundred meter radius over a wide band of frequencies; the frequency band range can be changed by simply switching out antennas.If you want to take down comms for everybody – that’s how you do it.Now imagine what a truck sized spark gap transmitter would do. Or a ship sized one.
 
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 15:04 utc | 121
Sure, for AM signals. Less so for FM.
 
I don’t understand how a ‘spark gap transmitter’ can jam digital transmission systems that use advanced DSP capability.
 
Can you help me understand?

Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 20 2025 21:32 utc | 149

He is entertaining, but like his younger compatriot Danny Haiphong – China never does anything wrong and everything is perfect there for everyone.Which is blatantly untrue.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 20 2025 18:20 utc | 137
 
**********
 
You are completely correct. No human institution at any level is completely without fault.
 
My guess is that Pepe and Danny may feel that there are already more than enough commentators focusing on China’s faults without the need for them to add their contribution.  
 
Besides, it seems that they do not have sufficient time to adequately cover China’s good points. It is a real dilemma for them!

Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 20 2025 21:41 utc | 150

On US Treasury Debt:Cayman Island Basis Trade Chaos: Pt 2- What’s the Basis Trade & How is it Already Under Stress? ==> https://youtu.be/FxosOenGm6g17 minutes. Worth watching.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 19 2025 19:57 utc | 50
————-
Very interesting. It sounds like the Fed is contemplating bailing out a 2 trillion dollar derivative trade. 

Posted by: financial matters | Oct 20 2025 22:01 utc | 151

Deep Seek and AliBaba reduce need for GPUs by over 80%. Black swan moment for Nvidia.
https://x.com/merlinscapital/status/1980367641794740456

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 20 2025 22:04 utc | 152

unimperator | Oct 20 2025 22:04 utc | 151
 
I was watching something on youtube a week or two back.
 
The Nivida gaming chips were excellent for data centers and AI.  The work different to standard chips/processors in ordinary PC’s. Hundreds or thousand of cores instead of just a few. XP and so forth were single core processor and then we went to 2 and 4 core and so forth. But gaming processor have many tiny cores and can process many things at the same time. A big part of nvida was the software that made those many cores function. Now China have found their own way – simpler boards but high level software to make them function at a similar level.
 
US has shot itself in both feet.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 22:35 utc | 153

US has shot itself in both feet.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 22:35 utc | 152
 
************
 
They have long since had only stumps left – but they keep blasting away.
 
Maybe force of habit?

Posted by: General Factotum | Oct 20 2025 23:21 utc | 154

@ 152, 153
And soon they won’t have a leg to stand on.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 20 2025 23:37 utc | 155

General Factotum | Oct 20 2025 23:21 utc | 153
John Gilberts | Oct 20 2025 23:37 utc | 154
 
🙂

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 20 2025 23:46 utc | 156

DJT has taken the ball, of democracy so to speak, and advanced it, just as presidents who preceded him have done.  Under Bush-the shrub, this meant inaugurating the Patriot Act and its far-reaching suppressions. 
 
Under Obama, this meant invigorating the surveillance state into domestic spaces and to suspend habeas corpus in detaining suspected terrorists, not to mention drone-assassinating suspected (but not verified) terrorists every Tuesday, even if they were American citizens. 
 
Under Autopen Robinette, this meant pandemic mandates and crackdowns on White Supremacy:  recall that domestic terrorism was Autopen Robinette’s number one stated enemy, an enemy from within, if you like.
 
Additionally under Autopen Robinette, we saw a transfer of 15mn unearned primary votes to Harris/Walz from Biden/Harris without so much as a public debate.  Moreover, we saw Harris replace Autopen Robinette as the ordained presidential candidate in 2024 without holding an open primary once Autopen Robinette stepped down.
 
It is distinctly weird to perseverate over DJT’s moves over the past 9 months, as if somehow they are beyond the norm of what DJT’s most immediate presidential homies have done.  It is especially weird not to call out more explicitly how long the DNC and the legacy media covered up Autopen Robinette’s cognitive decline.  That was no small thing.  What’s strange is that the No Kings-! mind-set people have not qualms about that.
 
A quaint aspect of the No Kings-! day protests involved the type of chants employed—like “Hey-Ho-Donald-Trump-Has-Got-To-Go”—or the focus on singing a la Peter, Paul & Mary in the late 1960s.
 
A majority of the No Kings-! protesters in Harlem (at 125th Street) on Saturday were white Baby Boomers who brought their ukeleles and banjos along so they could rouse the crowd, a hem, to sing.
 
When Gen Zers tried to start a pro-Palestine chant, the Boomers strummed their ukeleles especially hard, trying to drown the young people out.
 
The daylight No Kings-! protest was a made-for-TV-movie version of virtue signalling, led by grandmas & grandpops who were very committed to applying their protest messages to music.  These anti-authoritarian geezers, demonstrating against DJT, drew heavily from the pro-Bush (the shrub) era.
 
When Glenn Greenwald’s producer queried the No Kings-! crowd about their specific beefs w/ DJT, they could really only answer that they were pro-democracy but nothing more detailed than that.  Like Glenn’s producer said, “I I were a troll, this would have been Troll Center.”  She meant specifically the No Kings-! protest in Harlem, which seemed populated by those who were very eager to chant rhythmically such catchy phrases as “What do we want-?  Dem-ock-ruh-see.”
 
Please note that color revolutions in eastern Europe super-emphasize dem-ock-ruh-see.
 
See it at Glenn’s System Update exclusively on Rumble.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 20 2025 23:47 utc | 157

A came to the open thread to write down some thoughts but those two replies had me laughing and I lost my train of thought.
 
Wokism. von der Leyen, Kallas, Baerbock. Totally brain dead bimbos. 
My former wife and daughters all turned woke in the decade after I became ill. I did not realise it at the time, but they went to a place where I could not follow.
 
I have long since realized my sister is woke too, but we still stay in contact and converse. Wokism is a massive dumbing down process and no different to a religious cult. My son, my mates dont seem to be so affected by it. I guess the women have been targeted as men follow their dicks.
 
How the west will break out of this insanity I do not know. It will be like deprograming from a religious cult.
 
The time I spent in the Aboriginal community. Wallace was the manager there. When there was a problem to be discussed a meeting would be called. Wallace would lay out the problem and the young people would all be given an opportunity to speak. The he would turn to the elders sitting in another group and any who had an opinion would speak. After that Wallace would spend quite some time sitting and talking with old Jock, the oldest and most respected elder, then he would make a decision.
 
Putin changed the Russian political scene in 2018. Those that had helped pull Russia up by its bootstraps were put in position of respected elders and younger people were appointed to take domestic Russia into the future.
 
The respected elders, the security council could concentrate solely on the geo-political scene. The protectors of the new Russian federation.
 
My sister, a year older than me has now ceased her working life. We both have grandchildren and so we have become the elders of our families. And so I write to her about this changing world as that should be there to guide our children and grandchildren. My recent email to her I put in the Todd thread, I thing @12.
 
But the western world has dismissed that completely. Marriage is temporary, a passing thing and history is nothing. It is an utterly destructive culture we have entered into.
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 0:21 utc | 158

steel_porcupine | Oct 20 2025 23:47 utc | 156
 
You wrote and posted yours while I was writing mine. Nearly the opposite in some respects

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 0:28 utc | 159

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 0:28 utc | 158
 
RE:  like they say about great minds, eh-?
 
<<
 
Welp

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 21 2025 1:09 utc | 160

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 20 2025 2:33 utc | 83
Duh.
I am disappointed. I have  enjoyed some of your writing in the past. The fact that these subscribers dumped you is obvious
 You bloviated for paragraph after paragraph about how evil America is. But not for a good reason. You weren’t trying to get Americans to figure it out, you were doing nothing but providing cover, excuses and concealment for criminals who are protesting and rioting in support of anarchy.
 
 All while blathering about how important the “rule” of law supposedly is to these degenerates.
 
 You’re a fraud. 
Americans that understand history don’t need you to bloviate about how evil our government has been.
 We already know.
 We also don’t need more obfuscation and bullshit spread to provide support for the truly lawless.
 I’m not stupid enough to pay random people on the internet for their opinions which I can get for free. But I kind of wish I had subscribed so I could dump yours.

Posted by: Archetypex | Oct 21 2025 1:28 utc | 161

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 20 2025 2:33 utc | 83
Duh.
I am disappointed. I have  enjoyed some of your writing in the past. The fact that these subscribers dumped you is obvious
 You bloviated for paragraph after paragraph about how evil America is. But not for a good reason. You weren’t trying to get Americans to figure it out, you were doing nothing but providing cover, excuses and concealment for criminals who are protesting and rioting in support of anarchy.
 
 All while blathering about how important the “rule” of law supposedly is to these degenerates.
 
 You’re a fraud. 
Americans that understand history don’t need you to bloviate about how evil our government has been.
 We already know.
 We also don’t need more obfuscation and bullshit spread to provide support for the truly lawless.
 I’m not stupid enough to pay random people on the internet for their opinions which I can get for free. But I kind of wish I had subscribed so I could dump yours.

Posted by: Archetypex | Oct 21 2025 1:30 utc | 162

steel_porcupine | Oct 21 2025 1:09 utc | 159
 
Such is life….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 1:46 utc | 163

Matt Taibbi explains on Racket News how FEMA workers improperly collected data about the political leanings of hurricane victims, from 2021 through 2024.  The political controversy surrounding FEMA aid grew especially in 2024 out of the vague way in which the agency’s Disaster Survivor Assistance Field Operations Guide was written.
 
The Field Operations Guide instructed FEMA workers to “Remove yourself from the situation if you feel threatened” when dealing with “hostile” individuals, the only problem being, as the new report notes:  “The Disaster Survivor Assistance Field Operations Guide did not define the term ‘hostile.’”
 
“The way the guide was written, FEMA employees had leeway to skip outreach to a house if its yard signs supporting Trump made them feel uncomfortable,” one Washington-based First Amendment lawyer put it last week (this according to Matt Taibbi’s reportage.)   “So it’s basically the same concept of a harm or distress standard we’re seeing in Europe with speech issues, where the emotional response of the observer, threatened by a pro-Trump yard sign, is what matters legally, as opposed to a concrete pragmatic rule.”
 
FEMA’s actions were “not limited to the Hurricane Milton disaster relief efforts in 2024,” and in fact, “FEMA impermissibly collected prohibited information at least dating back to the Hurricane Ida disaster in September 2021.”
 
Federal aid workers felt empowered to withhold relief based on what they consider “hostile” signage.  This fact alone creates an opening for a federalized version of the old “walking-around-money” operation pioneered by ward-heelers in city elections, in which petty cash made it into the hands of one party’s potential voters.   This phenomenon escalated during Autopen Robinette’s administration.
 
The mere fact that FEMA aid can be politicized should worry members of both political parties enough to do something about it.  Citizens distrust the government enough as it is.  If it is known that disaster relief can be politicized and nobody fixes the problem, imagine how mad citizens will be one or two cycles from now.
 
Nobody wants a king unless he is on their side.  The press did not utter a peep about Autopen Robinette’s monarchy, and the politicians who were Autopen Robinette’s loyal subjects stayed mum.
 
Please note, however, that the same press which to this day blasts VVP’s “unprovoked war of brutal aggression” in Ukraine is the same press which uttered not a peep about Autopen Robinette’s monarchic abuses ad refused to report on Autopen Robinette’s cognitive decline while his royal court hustled to hide all evidence but now works itself into high dudgeon over DJT’s actions from the Executive Branch-?
 
They are on the same side.   They are anti-DJT.  Whether he’s hung as a sheep or hung as a wolf matters not at all:  they’re hellbent on hanging him.
 
If DJT were in fact king of America, it would be difficult for the party which is not in power, the Dems in the senate, to shut down the government for 3 weeks, which the Dems have done, without feeling ultimately the wrath of the king.   A vengeful king would shut down their pathetic efforts, their ukelele strumming, their singing, and disappear them to boot.
 
Which is not happening.
 
The No Kings-! protest happened from 1-3pm on Saturday 18 October:  people showed up w/ their ukeleles and their mass-printed No Kings-! signs and then they went home.  Even though the past 4 presidential monarchies—erm administrations—-have exhibited kingly abuses, the protesters, hypnotized into believing that our Constitutional republic has been tainted by one king and one king only, gripped the necks of their ukeleles and wailed away.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 21 2025 1:56 utc | 164

Three key issues Donald Trump has highlighted with China are fentanyl, rare earth minerals, and soybeans.
Fentanyl is a US user problem just like opium was for China back in the day and I would hope China will remind or educate Trump on this century of humiliation that China will not repeat.
 
With rare earth minerals Trump said, “I don’t want them to play the rare earth game with us”.  Trump needs to understand that this is not a game for China and this is hardball.  I notice all the MSM media is not talking about the military nature of China’s position.  I don’t expect China to back down one iota and this issue could lead to war because it threatens empire’s might-makes-right capability.
 
With soybeans Trump will be told that China has signed contracts for soybeans elsewhere because of US actions and they will fulfill those contracts but may be open to purchasing soybeans in the future if the deal works for them.
 
How much bloviating will we be forced to endure from Trump because he refuses to admit empire defeat?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 2:31 utc | 165

Mahmood OD: ‘No Kings!’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/videos
 
“America’s largest protests| Trump’s sinister response.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2025 2:46 utc | 166

OUtrage over Trump’s poop bombing vid
 
But why ?
 
Trump didnt start it.

Posted by: denk | Oct 21 2025 2:48 utc | 167

psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 2:31 utc | 163
 
There was something I wrote some years back which grieved commented on.
 
When I was in Guangzhou, the place I was staying, a couple of traffic cops would come around and sleep the afternoon at the intersection below the hotel where I was camped. They were unarmed.
 
Going into Canton fair was different. To get the pass they checked everyone’s credentials carefully. They were hard and lean and the sort of blokes you simply do not fuck with and they werent dicking about.
 
The building was a couple of stories and over a number of days I looked at every stall. I would go out on the balcony from time to time for a smoke.  It had a view over the car park and their sitting around was the swat squad.
 
One day walking in, A little enclosure had been put up and two soldiers were in it. One held his rifle but to his shoulder ready to swing it up at a moments notice. There must have been some sort of alert and they were watching the vehicle traffic intently. I think it was then, I realised those really hard fuckers would give their lives to protect the international visitors like me.
 
It is something I think few in the west understand.
 
China has pulled its people out of poverty and the government has good approval rating. If the west goes up against China, we will face a great number of really hard fuckers that will be willing to die for their country.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 3:00 utc | 168

Fact is, Pilger coined the five liars
 
The mushroom club
 
Where inmates are kept in the dark and fed BS all day long.

Posted by: denk | Oct 21 2025 3:27 utc | 169

PIlger was called a self hating whites !

Posted by: denk | Oct 21 2025 3:58 utc | 170

When the conscience of the west is snuffed out, there’s no more redeeming values,.
 
What shared values are they talking about ?
 
Thats all folks !

Posted by: denk | Oct 21 2025 4:02 utc | 171

Keep on keeping on Denk.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 4:25 utc | 172

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 4:25 utc | 171
———–
 
One more for the road.
 
YOur encouragement meaNs alot Peter !
 
Signing off
 
PS
Somebody should do an autopsy on PIlger, RIP

Posted by: denk | Oct 21 2025 4:32 utc | 173

Therefore the new extra territorial export control will stay no matter who Bessent is going to talk to. 
 
Posted by: cindy6 | Oct 20 2025 19:06 utc | 142
 

 
Thanks again for your point of view on the negotiations.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 5:19 utc | 174

I am curious what other barflies think of this
 
Bank of China promotes RMB’s global use at London roadshow
 

LONDON, Oct. 20 (Xinhua) — Bank of China on Monday hosted a roadshow in London to promote the global use of the renminbi (RMB), as officials, financiers and policymakers from China and Britain explore new ways to deepen cross-border financial cooperation.
Nearly 100 representatives from the People’s Bank of China, the British government, the City of London, international financial institutions and think tanks attended the event, part of the bank’s 2025 Global RMB Internationalization Promotion Series. Discussions focused on expanding the RMB’s role in international trade, investment and financial markets.
 

James Michael Douglas Thomson, deputy chair of policy and resources at the City of London Corporation, said London’s financial strength and China’s economic influence are becoming increasingly intertwined. Having worked in the financial services sector himself, Thomson said he had witnessed firsthand how pivotal China has become in discussions about global trade and commerce.
Thomson cited the City’s latest data showing that London’s RMB trading volume rose by 43 percent in 2024 to about 172 billion pounds (230.6 billion U.S. dollars), while cross-border RMB transactions increased by more than 20 percent year-on-year.
“These figures highlight the steady progress of RMB internationalization and London’s vital role in supporting this process,” Thomson said, adding that the close partnership with China remains important and will continue to grow stronger.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 5:42 utc | 175

If you want to keep up, watch this 7+ minute video from Xinhuanet
 
Innovate China: Humanoid revolution

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 5:45 utc | 176

Here is a good primer on China 5-year planning
 
What to know about key Party meeting that will shape China’s next five-year plan
 
This is the kind of planning that goes on in the back rooms of the private think tanks in the fascist West

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 5:55 utc | 177

Insanity on stilts!

US army taps private equity groups to help fund $150bn revamp
Apollo, KKR, Carlyle and Cerberus among investors that held talks with federal government
The US army has asked private equity groups including Apollo, Carlyle, KKR and Cerberus to pitch “meaty” strategic projects to help the service fund a $150bn infrastructure overhaul.
US army secretary Daniel Driscoll and Treasury secretary Scott Bessent held a forum with about 15 of Wall Street’s best-known buyout firms last Monday to discuss deals.
Driscoll told the Financial Times he gathered the private investors to say, “‘Hey, here are all the assets we have in our arsenals and our depots that we are underutilising . . . What are those types of deals where we can work with you and invite you in?’”
The army secretary, the service’s top civilian official, said he asked the groups to draw up “clever financing models or unique financing models” to help meet the army’s infrastructure needs.
continues ==> https://www.ft.com/content/0e9228db-9fa5-4f90-ab8a-93aadcb62d57

 
A real fire sale!

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 6:10 utc | 178

re: Bank of China promotes RMB’s global use at London roadshow ?
de-dollarization brings Peace. 
My estimate of some sort of  US Federal Gov’t insolvency crisis in 2027 remains valid.  As long as the US 10 year treasury stays above 4%, the maths are inescapable. Christ, the 3 month is now at 3.9%. Rolling over old Federal Debt means going from paying 1% interest to 4% these days.  This has been the case for almost 3 years now. 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: exile | Oct 21 2025 6:12 utc | 179

re: US army taps private equity groups to help fund $150bn revamp ?
 
Too Scents; thats a significant tell. Thank you. 

Posted by: exile | Oct 21 2025 6:14 utc | 180

Rolling over old Federal Debt
 
Posted by: exile | Oct 21 2025 6:12 utc | 178
 

 
The line goes up and to the right.  $3 Trillions roll every night.
 
Secured Overnight Financing Volume ==> fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SOFRVOL
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 6:21 utc | 181

thats a significant tell. 
 
Posted by: exile | Oct 21 2025 6:14 utc | 179
 

 
The tell is that the USA is being looted.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 6:23 utc | 182

@  too scents | Oct 21 2025 6:10 utc | 177 with the growing fascism in America….sigh
 
Another example in the article

In July, the Pentagon’s announced it would spend $400mn to become the largest shareholder in US rare earths producer MP Materials.

China has government investment in many companies which would be considered similar to this but in China the profits/benefits go to the masses whereas in the West the profits/benefits go the the God Of Mammon cult elite……it is all about who gets to control and drink from the punch bowl.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 6:28 utc | 183

The tell is that the USA is being looted.
 
Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 6:23 utc | 180
 

 
Adding.
 
All these crooks with their hands up to their elbows in the Treasury’s cookie jar are going to be the first to show up in Tuxedos with whores in tow at the White House State Ballroom.
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 6:29 utc | 184

@ too scents | Oct 21 2025 6:29 utc | 182 about the existing/coming looting
 
When the crash happens it will be the bankers with their Superior Position derivatives that will do the most looting, IMO…..maybe that is what will get them swinging from lamp posts.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 6:42 utc | 185

Posted by: Tel | Oct 20 2025 10:40 utc | 98
Re: Glutahione (GSH).
 
That’s a fascinating chemical. I came across it while studying the toxicity of lead (Pb). Lead binds at the sulphur (S-H) site on GSH, and that’s the means by which it hitches a ride across cell-barriers. It’s got me wondering if the Selenide version has a protective effect to lead… A subject I’d like to discuss further sometime.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 21 2025 7:10 utc | 186

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2025 6:28 utc | 184
Yes indeed. My understanding is that MP Minerals  does little producing , and nil refining in the US at all. It went bankrupt in 2015 only to be bought out by JHL Capital owned by a Mr Litinsky . In fact, they just got sent a whole lot of rare-earths from …Pakistan! Now who will refine it? US going to do it? Dirty and toxic  , but hey , maybe they will overturn all Safety Laws for national security?
Only producer of Rare Earths in the US,  a group of critical minerals  , and the USA couldn’t care less about it being allowed to be snapped up by a carpetbagging  speculator. Hmm? Connected to Presidential families?

Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 21 2025 7:43 utc | 187

Utterly delicious: the honesty you’ll never (really) see, to congratulate RT:
 
WATCH Western journalists finally ‘speak’ the truth (AI VIDEO)
https://www.rt.com/news/626744-western-hosts-admit-mistakes/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 21 2025 8:28 utc | 188

The tell is that the USA is being looted.
Posted by: too scents

Indeed – it’s even worse than the LBO frenzy back in the early 1980s.  It’s extraordinary that the shysters are so open about their destruction. . 

Posted by: exile | Oct 21 2025 9:07 utc | 189

China. Scanner the Reuters propaganda headlines this morning, something had changed. Something about the leader of the KMT instead of the American stooge party. I didn’t bother reading the propaganda.
 
I’m not sure what has changed, perhaps it is the American’s own economy, or perhaps its China really sticking it to the Americans in this American instigated trade war.
Whatever it is, something has changed. Time will tell on that one I guess.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 10:04 utc | 190

If DJT were in fact king of America, it would be difficult for the party which is not in power, the Dems in the senate, to shut down the government for 3 weeks, which the Dems have done, without feeling ultimately the wrath of the king.   A vengeful king would shut down their pathetic efforts, their ukelele strumming, their singing, and disappear them to boot. .
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 21 2025 1:56 utc | 164
 
 
Do you have any sources for your assertion that the Democratic Party is responsible for shutting down the Federal Government.?
 
 
I have read Speaker Johnson is responsible for the shutdown. The aim is to prevent a newly elected senator from signing Massie’s bill to release info on Epstein and his clients
 

Posted by: will moon | Oct 21 2025 10:14 utc | 191

I saw there was a lot of fellow Australians on the Todd thread today and that was good to see. I didn’t have much I could add there. I think there was also one or two others from this time zone and that is really good.
 
Just saw my previous pot. Scanner. Scanning….
 
China. Will be good if PRC can prevent US using ROC as Ukroid cannon fodder.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 10:23 utc | 192

I have read Speaker Johnson is responsible for the shutdown. The aim is to prevent a newly elected senator from signing Massie’s bill to release info on Epstein and his clients
 
Posted by: will moon | Oct 21 2025 10:14 utc | 191
 

 
I think you are conflating two different things. 
 
The shutdown is caused by an inability to find a compromise on continuing funding for healthcare.
 
Johnson could swear in Adelita Grijalva while Congress is adjourned.  He as done so before, but now because of the Epstein jeopardy, he refuses to do so.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 10:25 utc | 193

Pot – post. Bloody hell. These typos are driving me nuts.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 10:25 utc | 194

“The MOST DANGEROUS MAGA that NO ONE is talking about”
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrlEqS5PMOs  (length: 4 minutes)

Posted by: WMG | Oct 21 2025 10:31 utc | 195

Aleph_Null | Oct 21 2025 8:28 utc | 188
 
I checked it out. Had to laugh out RT’s takedown of those two, though RT videos don’t seem to play here in Australia anymore.
 
I saw something about Durov in the sidebar and started thinking about him, the stuff with the French and so forth. Russia runs deep.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2025 10:33 utc | 196

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2025 10:25 utc | 193
 
RE:  The shutdown is caused by an inability to find a compromise on continuing funding for healthcare. <<
 
During the pandemic, Autopen Robinette initiated a temporary stop-gap measure related to healthcare which expanded coverage but also included an expiration date.
 
The temporary nature of Autopen Robinette’s stop-gap measure is now at issue, as is that expiration date.  The Dem senate hold-outs want to make the temporary healthcare provision permanent, and the Republican senators are opposed.
 
Keep in mind, though, that Congressional legislators, including Dem representatives, have already passed & agreed-to this selfsame bill, which would allow Autopen Robinette’s temporary stop-gap measure to expire.
 
Naturally the Dens wear this governmental shutdown as the Schumer Shutdown, because a vast majority of Washington from both parties has already come to consensus on the matter.  A handful of Dem senators are holding out.
 

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 21 2025 10:58 utc | 197

“House Arrest: Mike Johnson Locks Out AZ” (representative for the House of Representatives)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eIMKnD9nPI  (length: 40 minutes) (in the 1st few minutes there is a good summary of the story)
 
Quote:
“Arizona’s Adelita Grijalva won her election fair and square, but Speaker Mike Johnson’s government shutdown has become a hostage crisis. Grijalva would have been the 218th vote to release the Epstein Files. Instead of being sworn in, Grijalva’s locked out while Johnson clings to power and uses the House swearing-in delay to feed his MAGA base. Rick Wilson tears into this clown show—how GOP power politics turned a duly elected congresswoman into a political pawn, how the shutdown in Congress hurts Arizona’s families, and why Johnson’s behavior reeks of tiny “D” energy.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YfoGIzp2_k  (length: 5 minutes)
 
“Members from the Democratic Women’s Caucus, along with several members from the Democratic Caucus and Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva, marched through the Capitol to House Speaker Mike Johnson’s office Tuesday night, chanting “swear her in” for Grijalva. Grijalva, an Arizona Democrat who won a special election last month to succeed her late father, has yet to be sworn in for her seat in Congress. Johnson says she’ll be sworn in when the House returns to session and blames the government shutdown for the delay.”
 
(@B: Love the new way one can format a text. Using things like  “/B” on the previous version of MoA was (very) cumbersome).

Posted by: WMG | Oct 21 2025 11:01 utc | 198

@B:  Stil waiting for a “Edit” or “Preview” button.

Posted by: WMG | Oct 21 2025 11:01 utc | 199

too scents
 
Thanks for correction. Didn’t realise  he could swear in members even though Congress is shuttered

Posted by: will moon | Oct 21 2025 11:05 utc | 200