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October 19, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-244
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“Hollywood” continues to play it’s role in supporting the Genocide in Gaza. Posted by: Otto Penn | Oct 19 2025 13:56 utc | 1 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 19 2025 14:02 utc | 2 Poetic justice at work. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 19 2025 14:11 utc | 3 The thing that has appalled me since the Genocide started not one Country in the World has taken military action to end it, only the Houthis have actually attacked the Zionist, and some unarmed civilians like Greta Thunberg and her people had the balls to confront the IDF child killers, History will not be kind to those Countries who did nothing, shameful. Posted by: Englishman | Oct 19 2025 14:16 utc | 4 Israel spent 24 months & close to a $100 billion to reduce Gaza to dust; they lost about 900 soldiers for this mission. Posted by: exile | Oct 19 2025 14:21 utc | 5 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 19 2025 14:26 utc | 6 Posted by: Englishman | Oct 19 2025 14:16 utc | 4 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 19 2025 14:28 utc | 7 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Oct 19 2025 14:28 utc | 7 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 14:45 utc | 8 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 17th October 2025: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update Covers Gaza Posted by: The Busker | Oct 19 2025 14:46 utc | 10 Like I bored of all of the Trump/Ukraine talk, I have bored of much of the online discourse about Palestine. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 14:57 utc | 11 “Victim’s eyes” Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 14:59 utc | 12 The Jewed-up West won’t be democratic until we force politicians who seek ‘Donations’ from undisclosed ‘Donors’ to resign. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 19 2025 15:13 utc | 13 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 19 2025 15:18 utc | 14 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 19 2025 15:13 utc | 15 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 15:22 utc | 15 Remember you wrote that when the Zionists kill everyone you cared about because that is coming. Posted by: malenkov | Oct 19 2025 15:29 utc | 16 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 19 2025 15:29 utc | 18 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 15:35 utc | 17 So the loss of Syria was coordinated with Russia. The Wahhabi death-squads that were besieged in Idlib didn’t have the manpower or capability to occupy the whole country without the intervention of Russia…This is a question that has to be put forward to everybody…” Posted by: india-guy | Oct 19 2025 15:46 utc | 18 Reposting these here because they’re critically important to a fuller understanding of the collapse/demolition of the ME resistance bloc: Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 15:53 utc | 19 india-guy @ 22 Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 15:58 utc | 20 LoveDonbass 11 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 19 2025 15:58 utc | 21 Hostages released and Israel restarts the war. Posted by: MAKK | Oct 19 2025 16:01 utc | 22 Netanyahu Plans To Seek Another Term Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 16:21 utc | 23 Critiques of Russia’s role in the fall of Assad miss the mark. Assumptions that Turkey, Syrian anti Assad militants and other ragtag Takfiri bands overwhelmed the beleaguered Assad are simply wrong. Asserting that Russia somehow betrayed Assad appears a mantra in the western canon. Ignoring crucial facts. The US (under Trump’s first administration and under Biden) shlepped up the oil and the revenue, established a Kurdish statelet under an atrocious warlord and established and maintained a vicious and crippling regime of sanctions. To say nothing of unfounded anti Assad propaganda such as white helmets accusations of chemical warfare. Also, the militias that rapidly crossed to Damascus were a well trained army including equipment, personnel and assistive air and IT support from the usual suspects. Shadow players at the table included US/UK/IS/EU – formidable opponents. Russia, saving Assad, chose to remain neutral, predicting considerable instability in both Syria and Lebanon, which would present its own opportunities. Again, co option is the Russian model, as well as writing the playbook on asymmetrical warfare. By now Jolani realizes how perfidious are his international supporters, how little control he has over his country and that no one is willing to stand up to Israel or the takfiri who are not only taking out large chunks of the country by force, but meddling politically and also having some role in the takfiri assassinations/genocide/kidnapping of Alawites, mirroring of course the fate of the Yazidi’s, accomplished under the umbrella of the Iraqi operation. Inquiring minds would suggest that much is being done under the name of the Syrian regime over which Jolani has little control. The wisdom of Russia’s position is becoming clear – all Russian assets, including their critical naval base at Tartus are supported by the Jolani regime. Jolani has made pilgrimage to Moscow – with virtually no read out of the discussions. While there are international calls for the disarmament of Hezbollah in Syria, the regime appears to have made no real world moves. Also, Israel’s actions have enraged and unified the populace, which heretofore was badly divided. Syria will continue to superficially toe the line with their ostensible benefactors, but wise heads will look to the underlying, deeply buried currents underneath. Finally consider that Russian and Axis of Resistence actions of neutrality preserved Syria as a state, as opposed to spiraling into the failed state chaos of Iraq – an important “win” as regards future actions which are only now becoming clear. Posted by: abierno | Oct 19 2025 16:28 utc | 24 Love Donbass, Posted by: Lysias | Oct 19 2025 16:34 utc | 25 The only “good” Arabs are the Yemeni. Most other Arab nations are disgusting, cowardly, and gay. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 16:35 utc | 26 In Palestine it is not Jew vs Muslim. It is Jew vs Gentile. Posted by: LarryEdward | Oct 19 2025 16:37 utc | 27 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 19 2025 16:45 utc | 28 Bringing this over from the last Palestine thread, re: why US State Dept. claims they have info that Hamas is going to attack civilians:
Posted by: teri | Oct 19 2025 16:57 utc | 29 Posted by: LarryEdward | Oct 19 2025 16:37 utc | 30 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 16:58 utc | 30 Why do I say someone isn’t Muslim? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 17:06 utc | 31 “The only “good” Arabs are the Yemeni. Most other Arab nations are disgusting, cowardly, and gay. Like Judeo-Christians.” Posted by: canuk | Oct 19 2025 17:11 utc | 32 Israel has announced it will stop all aid going into the Gaza Strip, claiming that Hamas violated the cease-fire by killing some of Israel’s paid collaborator gang members. Israel has also conducted 100 targeted bombings since this morning.
Posted by: teri | Oct 19 2025 17:18 utc | 33 Forgot this one:
Posted by: teri | Oct 19 2025 17:21 utc | 34 Posted by: canuk | Oct 19 2025 17:11 utc | 32 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 17:41 utc | 35 “Netanyahu has approved a total blockade on Gaza, cutting off all humanitarian aid after the Israeli army advised suspending deliveries indefinitely.” (link) Posted by: xor | Oct 19 2025 17:47 utc | 36 @teri Thanks, I am just catching up on events now. What occurred in Rafah, in ‘red zones’ is still not clear. Posted by: Ornot | Oct 19 2025 17:52 utc | 37 Wait? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 17:53 utc | 38 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en https://t-me.translate.goog/s/october7_23?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en Posted by: Ornot | Oct 19 2025 17:54 utc | 39 What is Sarah Wilkinson on Trial For? Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 17:55 utc | 40 Martyred: https://t-me.translate.goog/s/hossamsshbat?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Ahaamd1985?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en Reporting from Rafah https://t-me.translate.goog/s/madinat_khanyuns?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en Other… https://t-me.translate.goog/s/P_S_PI?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en Posted by: Ornot | Oct 19 2025 17:55 utc | 41 Amb Craig Murray Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 17:59 utc | 42 • Journalist Sohaib Masalmeh “All the events today were preceded by field and rhetorical preparations for everything. The US State Department issued a statement against Hamas. Two days ago, Israel began talking about returning to war and accusing Hamas of violations. Today, something happened in Rafah. We have not seen any pictures or evidence of what happened. It is as if it were a well-planned Indian movie to return to bombing. Israel took living prisoners, and that is what is important. It did not provide any guarantees to stop the war, except for normal words from Trump. The one who signed it was Trump in order to obtain the Nobel Prize, and he did not obtain it. The word “war” means one thing, and the word “military operation” means it is not a war. Today, the name of the war was changed to the “Renaissance War”, and the Israeli government voted on it. Netanyahu’s courts canceled security sessions that have been ongoing since yesterday until now. The reaction was greatly exaggerated. The crossings were closed to aid that was entering in a trickle as well. Israel is not interested in ending the war. If it wanted to, it would have announced its end and voted on it in the Knesset when it started. The war will not end until Israel bans all weapons directed against it in Lebanon, Yemen, Gaza, the West Bank, and everywhere else, and reassures itself that all countries have submitted to it and made them states subservient to its policy. This is the case and the reality..” • Journalist Youssef Fares “The Israeli army’s statement indicated the end of the wave of raids and reactions to the alleged incident in Rafah. What the Israeli army.did was close the file on the most important cell in Jabalia by assassinating the commander of the elite forces, the senior commander Yahya al-Mabhouh “Abu al-Abd,” his deputy, Hussein al-Sawalihi, and his inner circle. These were rich targets that had been subjected to dozens of assassination attempts during the war and had performed admirably in the three incursions into the camp. It also exploited the “alleged” incident to establish the next phase: “Any breach, no matter how small, will be met with a disproportionate response.” It also attempted to grant greater immunity to groups of collaborators who sensed their end was near. Today’s events will not affect the course of Trump’s plan. They came in the context of clarifying the nature of the agreement to both the Israeli interior and Hamas, and to undermine the sense of relative comfort within the movement’s ranks , which had quickly restored security control over the Gaza Strip. It settled accounts that had been delayed for two years within days, and is attempting to build a fait accompli that transcends the agreement’s red lines. Are we facing a reproduction of the Lebanese security reality in Gaza? Unfortunately, yes, and perhaps in a much worse way. Journalist Youssef Fares” Posted by: Ornot | Oct 19 2025 18:00 utc | 43 The Flutist Against ‘chutzpah’ Thoughts on Zionist Abuses Posted by: PassionateProgressiv | Oct 19 2025 18:09 utc | 45 see the 2:00 video at the second link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 19 2025 18:10 utc | 46 The collaborators aren’t Palestinians, they are Israelis. That’s why the Likud is so miffed. Israelis posing as Arabs has been going on for decades.
In 1950s Mossad spies married Arabs to conceal identity Posted by: exile | Oct 19 2025 18:19 utc | 47 Benzion Mileikowsky polish strong semite not so much Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 19 2025 18:40 utc | 48 People don’t understand how deep the Zionist conspiracy runs, or how long it has been running. The earliest Talmudic Jews killed Christ according to Christianity… Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 18:42 utc | 49
Skeptical of both those estimates. Think it somewhere between the two. Posted by: drinky crow | Oct 19 2025 18:48 utc | 50 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2025 18:42 utc | 48
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 19 2025 19:07 utc | 51 re: Craig Murray @ 42 Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 19:18 utc | 52 Gaza according to lickspittle Reuters Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 19 2025 19:18 utc | 53 drinky crow – some colout for you: Posted by: Exile | Oct 19 2025 19:18 utc | 54 From the river to the sea. Meanwhile plucky middle class British granny’s have taken to protests and guaranteed arrests. “ The experience of watching 2,000 upstanding citizens, most of them elderly and many of them infirm, hustled through this slaughterhouse queue of mass justice and into prison, with little opportunity to defend themselves, will be a defining moment in the UK’s headlong slide into fascism. “ Spread the word crowd funding is required for a high court action to stop the ‘hanging judges’ without jury trials – done in batches giving each prisoner half hour for the whole kangaroo trial debacle – heck if Oz still needed forced settlers they’d be sent there ! It’s their ‘poll tax disaster’ moment – an opportunity to tell the fascist fucks – ‘ not in our name ‘. ps macakabi footbal hooligans planning to come to Britain to support one of their ziofascist club teams next week will be welcomed heartily on every street and inn and establishment and any stadium they attempt to enter. Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 19 2025 19:19 utc | 55 Posted by: exile | Oct 19 2025 14:21 utc | 5 Posted by: xor | Oct 19 2025 19:19 utc | 56 abierno | Oct 19 2025 16:28 utc | 24 Posted by: bevin | Oct 19 2025 19:22 utc | 57 JAMES JACKSON Posted by: Menz | Oct 19 2025 19:26 utc | 58
– Voltaire Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 19 2025 19:35 utc | 59 The top funder of Reform UK is Christopher Harbourne, who also has citizenship in Thailand under the name Chakrit Sakunkrit. He is also the largest single shareholder in arms firm QinetiQ, which exports UAV drones to Israel for use in the Gaza genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 19 2025 19:35 utc | 60 British racist Tommy Robinson receives warm reception in Tel Aviv Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 19 2025 19:38 utc | 61 KAYHAN LIFE Posted by: Menz | Oct 19 2025 19:38 utc | 62 Posted by: abierno | Oct 19 2025 16:28 utc | 24 Posted by: duck n cover | Oct 19 2025 19:38 utc | 63 BARRY MALONE Posted by: Menz | Oct 19 2025 19:45 utc | 64 HOWARD BECKETT Posted by: Menz | Oct 19 2025 19:49 utc | 65 ABIER Posted by: Menz | Oct 19 2025 19:57 utc | 66 John Gilberts @ 19 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 19 2025 20:03 utc | 67 Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 19 2025 19:18 utc | 52 Posted by: Menz | Oct 19 2025 20:08 utc | 68 Re 62 – the most skilled of poker players never reveal their hand until they call. Compare the world prior to Oct 7to two years later and counting: BRICS has so many applicants that BRICS affiliate is also a designation. An organization built not on military prowess (think NATO) but respect for each nations; sovereignty and national goals. 120 countries, representing the majority of the world’s population, signed off on the illegality of the EU Snap back sanctions on Iran. Open dissention at the UN with the world’s ablest attorneys looking for a means of re structuring the Security Council – re expansion and veto power of certain countries. Note UK/US/IS/EU fiscally cratering under eponymous debt owing to untrammeled financial, military and other forms of aide for all of Israel’s illegal, poorly considered and unchecked operations: Gaza, West Bank, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, and Qatar as overt operations, covert – throughout the world. Ukraine a part of the same playbook. While West Asian countries may kiss the ring, they are also busily establishing networks of relationship with China, Russia and covertly with Iran, reading the writing on the wall. Many have extensive holdings in the US and are acutely aware of the powers that be willy-nilly freezing and appropriating assets of those who don’t comply. If you think that the billions of Russian financial assets still exist intact, I have bridge you might wish to purchase. Posted by: abierno | Oct 19 2025 21:05 utc | 70 Like I said, was that no kings protest where they knew they were all going to be in every major city and town. A test for Palantir AI recognition? Posted by: dobby | Oct 19 2025 21:10 utc | 71 Posted by: abierno | Oct 19 2025 16:28 utc | 24 It is not at all clear to me how Tartus is critical to Russia. It’s useless against NATO. Protecting Tartus means Russia has no practical position but neutrality in any dispute in the Middle East. A little finger wagging, maybe? Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 19 2025 21:14 utc | 72 @59 Posted by: AleaJactaEst | Oct 19 2025 21:40 utc | 73 It kind of reminds me of 1917, 1933 and Orwell’s 1984 colliding all at once, very fast. Posted by: dobby | Oct 19 2025 21:45 utc | 74 abierno @ 24: View the two interviews @ 19 and then tell me if you still think the same. If/when, as Craig Murray suggests @ 42 – Russia & China are likely to facilitate UNSC passage of a resolution rendering Trump’s pro-Zionist ‘peace plan’ into settled international law, the the final solution to Israel’s Palestinian ‘problem’, with their help, will have been secured. Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 21:51 utc | 75 see the 8:27 video at the first/second link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 19 2025 21:53 utc | 76 Surely Russia needs access to the sea. Therefore it needs Ports. This is one it depends on. Posted by: Valerie Swales | Oct 19 2025 22:23 utc | 77 74 John Gilberts — “Russia & China are likely to facilitate UNSC passage of a resolution rendering Trump’s pro-Zionist ‘peace plan’ into settled international law, the the final solution to Israel’s Palestinian ‘problem’, with their help, will have been secured.” see the 16-second video at the first link. “israel is a fake state” Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 19 2025 22:48 utc | 79 Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 19 2025 22:50 utc | 80 Laith Marouf is right to be disappointed in Russia Posted by: Giyane | Oct 19 2025 22:53 utc | 81 John Gilberts @ 19 Posted by: john | Oct 19 2025 22:55 utc | 82 Russia’s complicity in betraying Syria was apparent years ago. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 19 2025 23:00 utc | 83 The Israeli Zios are killing Palestinians again so the cease fire was only meant for the Palestinian side. Egypt as predicted was all for show. King Donald achieves nothing again, it was just about glorifying his fat ego and his attempt to get a Nobel Piss prize. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 19 2025 23:10 utc | 85 ‘What Caused The Ceasefire To Collapse?’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 23:17 utc | 86 Palestinians being slaughtered again and King Donald shitting in his own people at the No Kings protests. Apparently if your demonstrate against King Donny now you’re also a supporter of Hamas as the house speaker Mike Johnson declared yesterday. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 19 2025 23:18 utc | 87 Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 19 2025 23:17 utc | 85 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 19 2025 23:24 utc | 88 It is important to “Hollywood” and it’s bankrollers that we all remember just who the Supreme Victims really are, even while those Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 19 2025 23:48 utc | 89 The wounded are not Israeli soldiers, but private contractors settlers hired by the army to demolish homes in Rafah, an operation that has been underway since last week. They were apparently destroying homes when they ran over an IED.” Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 19 2025 23:50 utc | 90 For the umpteenth time, they are inhuman. A similar case can be made for many Westerners. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 19 2025 23:51 utc | 91 The Wag The Dog routine from Reuters Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 19 2025 23:58 utc | 92 In Palestine it is not Jew vs Muslim. It is Jew vs Gentile Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 19 2025 23:58 utc | 93 Elon Musk: ‘Tommy Robinson – You Are The Media Now’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 20 2025 0:20 utc | 94 Mahmood OD: ‘125 Strikes on Gaza: How Did It Happen?’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 20 2025 1:06 utc | 96 Military and Security Affairs Platform “Summary of the Military Situation – Military Affairs Platform What is happening in Gaza cannot be described as an “accidental breach.” Rather, it is a calculated shift in conflict management, keeping the Strip in a cycle of perpetual bleeding under the umbrella of a ceasefire managed with fire and economic pressure. The occupation is implementing a new phase of control through fire and hunger, the goal of which is… Dimensions of the Field Situation – The “Comfortable Hunting” Phase The targeting of prominent field personnel in Jabalia and Tel al-Zaatar falls within what the occupation calls the “comfort hunting” phase, whereby a bank of dormant targets is reactivated under the pretext of any security incident. Political Reading – Netanyahu and the Game of Survival The current escalation cannot be separated from Netanyahu’s internal crisis and the mounting pressure from the extreme right, which is demanding that he prove that the war is not over. 1. Demonstrating that Israel still has the upper hand on the ground. 2. Sending a message to the guarantors, especially Washington, that Netanyahu will not abide by their restrictions. 3. Absorbing right-wing anger by suggesting that the battle against Hamas is ongoing, even if only through the media. In this way, Gaza is once again being exploited as a platform for settling political scores within Israel. The Israeli occupation army’s announcement of a return to implementing the agreement after this extensive bombardment confirms that what happened was not an escalation resulting from a loss of control, but rather a calculated message aimed at: 1. Redefining the rules of engagement in accordance with the new Israeli vision. 2. Testing the resistance’s response and the extent of its commitment to the calm despite the provocations. 3. Measuring the international and mediator position regarding a blatant violation, to determine the limits of permissible silence. The reality on the ground today suggests that Israel is waging a low-intensity war under the guise of a “ceasefire,” https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Military_Security?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en It is not possible to say how long circumstance remains this way. There is still talk of an attack on Iran. Nothing being reported on ‘phase two negotiation’ either. Posted by: Ornot | Oct 20 2025 1:50 utc | 97 Apollyon | Oct 19 2025 19:38 utc | 60 Posted by: Cynic | Oct 20 2025 2:09 utc | 98 Menz | Oct 19 2025 19:38 utc | 61 … Posted by: Cynic | Oct 20 2025 2:33 utc | 99 |
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