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October 12, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-238

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How a Scottish maritime museum ended up in Israel’s 3D propaganda videos
An analysis of dozens of Israeli army animations, used to justify Gaza strikes and amplified by international outlets, discovered digital assets sourced not from classified intelligence but commercial libraries and content creators
 
 
https://www.972mag.com/israeli-army-3d-propaganda-animations/

Posted by: Exile@gmail.com | Oct 12 2025 12:26 utc | 1

Re-posting from previous thread:
 
From Youessef Faresh:  Israeli Defense Minister Yisrael Katz : The biggest challenge facing Israel after the release of the prisoners is the direct demolition of all tunnels in Gaza by the military and through the US-led international mechanism.  – Aid trucks start coming in through the Kerem Shalom crossing  – The Zionists are continuing raids and arrests in the West Bank– – – – – –  According to reports,  the Zionist media are spewing disgusting lies about Yahya Sinwar, whose body will not be handed over.  – Hamas elected authority in Gaza,  (emphasis on elected) has again demonstrated its ability to immediately  restart communal and other tasks and ensure security amid the almost total destruction.  – An “international summit” has been announced by Egypt for tomorrow in Sharm El Sheik where apparently a grand ceremony will be held by the colonial powers complicit in the genocide, and some Arab and Islamic states, also complicit, plus UN Secretary General, to `seal “the deal” that promises end of the genocide, and the imposition of  of full colonial control over Gaza and the West Bank., about which there is “full consensus”, said DTrump. As reported, no Palestinians will attend the “international summit”.
Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 11:49 utc | 329

Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 12:26 utc | 2

Formatting is a nightmare still. I post this again for ease of reading. b will delete the bad one:
 
From Youessef Faresh:  
 
Israeli Defense Minister Yisrael Katz : The biggest challenge facing Israel after the release of the prisoners is the direct demolition of all tunnels in Gaza by the military and through the US-led international mechanism.  
 
– Aid trucks start coming in through the Kerem Shalom crossing  
 
– The Zionists are continuing raids and arrests in the West Bank
– – – – – –  
– According to reports,  the Zionist media are spewing disgusting lies about Yahya Sinwar, whose body will not be handed over.  
 
– Hamas elected authority in Gaza,  (emphasis on elected) has again demonstrated its ability to immediately  restart communal and other tasks and ensure security amid the almost total destruction.  
 
– An “international summit” has been announced by Egypt for tomorrow in Sharm El Sheik where apparently a grand ceremony will be held by the colonial powers complicit in the genocide, and some Arab and Islamic states, also complicit, plus UN Secretary General, to `seal “the deal” that promises end of the genocide, and the imposition of  of full colonial control over Gaza and the West Bank., about which there is “full consensus”, said DTrump. As reported, no Palestinians will attend the “international summit”.
 

Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 12:29 utc | 3

There’s an old joke about the guy who shows up at an old, run-down circus and promises to restore its prestige by putting on a show featuring tigers and lions simultaneously, along with a lamb. Something never before seen!
The circus owner is enthusiastic and immediately agrees, imagining the applause of the astonished and amazed audience, but is disappointed when he hears the price the new tamer was asking for…
_You have to buy a new lamb for every performance!
Well, that’s how organizations, institutions, and international politics work. They’ve been trying for centuries to make us believe that we can feed all the dogs from the same plate without any bites, that we can put the wolves in charge of the sheep, that we can put on a show where the lambs walk among lions and tigers, that we can enjoy swimming in a sea full of sharks.
That doesn’t make it any less false, that doesn’t make it any less marketing. But that’s not the worst of it! The saddest thing is that we’ll pay to go, once again, as long as it’s still a good show…
By the way, we love marketing!
inconsequential-peace
https://textosandroides.blogspot.com/2024/12/intrascendente-paz.html

Posted by: Santi | Oct 12 2025 12:44 utc | 4

One item that should be discussed in a peace deal is the ownership of the gas and oil field off the coast of Gaza.  I haven’t heard a peep about that and I’m sure that US/Israeli oil interests are already planning on plundering it.

Posted by: Migmaw | Oct 12 2025 13:34 utc | 5

I have not seen anything that states or implies that Israel is responsible for any sort of reparations to the Palestinians.  No talk of them involved in the rebuilding, providing equipment or monies for repairs, etc.  How is this possible?  The US has said it will “help” rebuild, but that is only when they talk about the “Trump plan” to build work camps for the Palestinians who decide to stay in the future US-run techno-cities.  Makes me sick.  All of a sudden it is as though the very idea that a genocide has been happening has been erased.
 
Last night, I saw a portion of a celebration in Israel’s “Hostage square”, which I gather is some place in Tel Aviv that has been renamed to honor the Israeli “hostages”.  The speakers to the Israeli crowd were Witkoff, and Jared and Ivanka Kushner.  Maybe some others.  According to the chyron under the TV pictures (I could not bear to actually listen to this crap), Kushner praised the IDF for its bravery and integrity.  Ivanka said “blah, blah, blah” and frequently pushed a strand of her hair back with one finger (it’s a rich-girl gesture; too, too prescious and cutesey.  Barf.)  
Latest stuff:
 
There is a summit/celebration in Egypt on Monday for the discussion of handling the Gaza Strip going forward and to celebrate the end of  “the war”.  Trump and Sisi will co-chair the event.
 

An Arab source from the mediating countries said that the parties are preparing for the second phase of negotiations, which will focus on who will govern the areas from which the Israeli army will withdraw in the Gaza Strip.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
A bunch of Arab countries, among them are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan, will send representatives to the summit.  I.e.; Arab countries that secretly cooperated with the occupation in the war on Gaza.  Iran was invited, but will not attend.
 
Hamas and the Palestinian Authority are not invited.  No Palestinians are invited.  The reason given for this is as follows:.
 

Authority leadership attempted to contact Sisi to arrange a meeting between him and Mahmoud Abbas, but received no response.
 
The source explained that Egypt did not invite the Palestinian Authority because it “is not included in Trump’s plan for Gaza.”
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
Oddly, there is also this statement:
 

Senior Palestinian officials: The Palestinian Authority has been promised to be a key partner in selecting the technocratic committee that will administer the Gaza Strip, and will also participate in managing the Rafah crossing once it is opened in both directions.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
Another unbelievable event has occurred – at least to me it is simply unbelievable – on the way to Egypt, a “traffic accident” took the lives of 3 Qatari diplomats who were on their way to the celebration/summit in Egypt:
 

The Qatari embassy announces the death of three Qatari diplomats and the serious injury of two others from the negotiating delegation regarding the Gaza war in a traffic accident near Sharm el-Sheikh.
 
The accident occurred 50 kilometers from Sharm el-Sheikh as the delegation was on its way to attend the announcement of the ceasefire agreement on Gaza.
 
The diplomats who were killed are:
 
Abdullah bin Ghanem al-Khayarin,
Hassan al-Jaber,
and Saud bin Thamer Al Thani.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
The GFH aid sites have been dismantled, according to several sources.
 

Good morning..
 
The news of the dismantling of the American GHF aid centers passed without receiving its due, knowing that it was the most horrific form of the crime of genocide. These were not just daily killing and criminal points, but an entire society designed with extreme professionalism to exploit the human survival instinct that fears death by starvation, to abuse human dignity and destroy every sound value on which he was raised and educated, for people to enter a wrestling ring daily, killing each other while competing for provisions, then the occupation snipers select whomever they want and kill them, and the matter is repeated without oversight or attempt to correct and develop, meaning that what was happening in all its horror was the goal that hides behind the curtain of aid.
 
Those centers struck at a time the formation of society, and made from thieves and bandits who had made a profession of banditry and theft, the rich of society and those who control the livelihood at the height of hunger.. 
 
The dismantling of the centers of sadism and criminality is the turning of a harsh page in our lives. It is true that its effects will not be erased quickly, but it is customary that what came.  The wind blows it away, and every passerby in this country will pass away.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
However, note must be made of this statement:
 

Army Radio: 
A source in the GHF (American Death Foundation) said: In the coming days, as part of the transfer/handover of the hostages to Israel, tactical changes will be made to the fund’s activities and temporary closures of some distribution sites may occur. There is no change to the fund’s long-term plan.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
Israel, despite saying that anyone who wanted could leave the Gaza Strip, nonetheless prevented 20 families from leaving so that they could rejoin their family members who were just released from Israeli prisons but deported to Jordan:
 

Follow-up | Occupation forces prevent approximately 20 families of deported prisoners from leaving the Karameh crossing to Jordan.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
The theft of aid trucks seems to have ended, but this also has two differing accounts.  The first source is an Israeli military analyst who admits the Israelis were protecting the gang, and the second is from the Palestinian gang who was stealing aid under the protection of Israel.
 

Follow-up | Israeli military analyst Yossi Yehoshua: 
 
Since the ceasefire was declared, there have been no truck thefts in Gaza, and the gangs have completely disappeared. It has become clear that the army was controlling these individuals, not individual actions. Now, there is no air cover or even ground forces protecting them. The presence of Hamas forces has crushed this phenomenon.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/hossamsshbat?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
 
Kan Channel: 
 
Commander of the Israeli-backed militias in Khan Yunis, Hussam al-Astal: “Israel continues to protect us, and we continue to operate within the yellow line. There are no Hamas forces in our area, and civilians are prohibited from entering, and there are no residents there yet.”
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
Palestine has still not received the names of the prisoners who are supposed to be released by Israel.
 

To reiterate: No lists of prisoners scheduled to be released as part of the deal have been published. What has been published via unofficial WhatsApp groups is inaccurate. We are currently monitoring the situation, including updates on all developments. When we receive any official information, we will inform you. For your information, specialized sources have not published any lists yet.
 
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/madinat_khanyuns?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

 
I have no hope that this mess of a “peace plan” will be carried out to anyone’s benefit except Israel’s and a bunch of very wealthy oligarchs who want the land and the oil off Gaza’s shore.
 

Posted by: teri | Oct 12 2025 13:35 utc | 6

“One item that should be discussed in a peace deal is the ownership of the gas and oil field off the coast of Gaza.  I haven’t heard a peep about that and I’m sure that US/Israeli oil interests are already planning on plundering it.”
 
was there ever any other reason for all of this?
I must be deluded to believe that the real reasons for anything NEVER make the news. or analysis that responds to the phony stories instead of the obvious.
Jews sure come in handy for sleight of hand before a mindless audience. If we live long enough for a historical record to accumulate, I would love to see it.
 
 

Posted by: Not Ewe | Oct 12 2025 13:51 utc | 7

Gaza is to be governed temporarily by a “technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee” under international supervision, with a “Board of Peace” chaired by Trump and including former British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

 “The Technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more CONTROLLED society. Such a society would be dominated by ELITE, unrestrained by traditional values.”
“Today it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people.”
— Zbigniew Brzezinski, Co-Founder of the Trilateral Commission

 

tony blair and obongo obozo stole the foreign reserves of Libya that were deposited in western bank for $ 125 billion usd .. that was the first major sacking of foreign reserves of any country .. Russia got hit with the same piracy .. also under tony blair , the Gold reserves of Venezuela .. about $ 2 billion were stolen, another piracy hit by tony blair ..
 
satanic tel aviv agent larry ellison donates 300 million dollars too tory blairs foundation for what exactly?

Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 12 2025 13:54 utc | 8

Leaked U.S. documents reveal that several Arab states secretly coordinated militarily with Israel during the Gaza war under U.S. Central Command to counter Iran, per The Washington Post. Despite public criticism of Israel, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the UAE held joint planning meetings and even trained on Hamas-style tunnel warfare at Fort Campbell. The alliance endured despite Israel’s September strike in Doha, and under Trump’s Gaza peace plan, these states will help enforce the ceasefire and train a new Palestinian police force with 200 U.S. troops.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 14:00 utc | 9

UN resolution 12626 and the Peking Declaration both from 2024 remain the best hope for Israelis to have a secure and lasting Peace.  period. 
 

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2025 14:05 utc | 10

Leaked U.S. documents reveal that several Arab states secretly coordinated militarily with Israel during the Gaza war under U.S. Central Command to counter Iran, per The Washington Post. Despite public criticism of Israel, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the UAE held joint planning meetings and even trained on Hamas-style tunnel warfare at Fort Campbell. The alliance endured despite Israel’s September strike in Doha, and under Trump’s Gaza peace plan, these states will help enforce the ceasefire and train a new Palestinian police force with 200 U.S. troops.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 14:00 utc | 10
 
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I have two links to stories on the above comment by Republicofscotland.  Neither explains why any countries in the Levant would cooperate this way, but there ya go.
 
https://thecradle.co/articles/leaked-us-files-expose-secret-israeli-arab-military-pact-targeting-iran-during-gaza-genocide-report
and
 
https://qudsnen.co/arab-states-quietly-expanded-ties-with-israel-during-gaza-genocide-report/
 
 
On my own comment at # 6, the “accident” that just killed 3 Qatari diplomats is explained thusly:
 

[…] According to Egypt’s state-run Al-Qahera News channel, the accident was caused by a steering wheel malfunction. […]
 
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20251012-3-qatari-diplomats-killed-in-car-crash-in-egypt/
 

 

Posted by: teri | Oct 12 2025 14:20 utc | 11

***Migmaw@5  “One item that should be discussed in a peace deal is the ownership of the gas and oil field off the coast of Gaza. “…..
It’s going to belong to the USA. It’s the fee charged for peace and reconstruction of Gaza. Moreover, it will be mostly exported to Europee to get them off the Rus oil/gas energy tit. This was the reason for  both  Ukraine and Gaza conflicts.
Watch the next move will be ” Free Chechnya !” and decades of brigand war throughout occupied Ukraie to keep the Rus pinned down.
Maybe even a revolt in Dagistan, they have the best caviar on the Caspian!!
 

Posted by: Jerr | Oct 12 2025 14:21 utc | 12

Israeli Defense Minister Yisrael Katz : The biggest challenge facing Israel after the release of the prisoners is the direct demolition of all tunnels in Gaza by the military and through the US-led international mechanism.  
Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 12:29 utc | 3
It is time to plan  for the next phase. Disarming of Hamas and other forces, and demolition of all tunnels- neither will be acceptable to the Resistance forces. Israel will use these as goals whose non-fulfilment will be used as an excuse to resume the bombing and attacks. In my opinion, the best option to prevent Israel from resuming hostilities is to ensure the presence of troops from outside  Gaza immediately after hostages are released. There should be at least 10,000 troops from Arab and Muslim countries and others ( Egypt, Turkiye, Iraq, and if possible UN troops (from India, Indonesia, Ethiopia maybe)). I am suggesting the names of those countries which have reasonably sized armies. Let these troops disarm the current police forces and then they should issue weapons to policemen chosen by them. There can be “martial law” through these forces to begin with.  In the meantime, a governing body needs to be worked out. The presence of foreign troops will dissuade Israel from bombing or attacking Gaza. Otherwise, it will be a 2 week ceasefire.

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Posted by: india-guy | Oct 12 2025 14:26 utc | 13

Lets see what other journalist say when they reach the land of the genocide.
 
“The first Swiss journalist to reach Gaza under the army of genocide lost his temper at the horror he witnessed, saying: “Humanity was destroyed here.”
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 14:33 utc | 14

Sorry for the trailing garbage. I am still trying to figure out how to post.

Posted by: india-guy | Oct 12 2025 14:33 utc | 15

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 14:33 utc | 14
 
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More arrogance when someone from “the garden” is shocked at what has been done to the ROW by his fellow Eloi.
 
Europeans have never known humanity, let alone contributed positively to it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 14:37 utc | 16

The Africans have a term for it. Ubuntu.
 
It means brotherliness.
 
Europeans rape and destroy.
 
They have no brothers or sisters. Difficult to make a good argument that Europeans (all Westerners) are even human.
 
Again, no humanity.
 
They are beasts.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 14:39 utc | 17

Watch the next move will be ” Free Chechnya !” and decades of brigand war throughout occupied Ukraie to keep the Rus pinned down.Maybe even a revolt in Dagistan, they have the best caviar on the Caspian!! 
Posted by: Jerr | Oct 12 2025 14:21 utc | 12
 
 
Frankly, after watching Russia’s behaviour towards Gaza during this genocide, I would happily say: “Free Chechnya”!
 
 
That Muslims like Kadhyrov and Apti Alyudinov should sacrifice their lives in the service of an Orthodox nation that looks down upon them and treats them with suspicion is a shame. Especially when not a single Jewish platoon fought in service of the Russian Federation … And yet, according to the Russian State “The security of israel must be preserved.”
 
Fuck Russia. Free Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia.
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2025 14:40 utc | 18

Sohaib Masalmeh Channel

“The Israeli Broadcasting Authority
reported that the Palestinian Authority has received assurances that it will be part of the governing authority in the Gaza Strip.

According to Palestinian figures, the Palestinian Authority will play a central role in selecting the technocrats who will govern the Strip.

Those close to Abu Mazen, in closed sessions, say they have received assurances from the parties that conducted the negotiations.

The same sources also received promises that the Palestinian Authority will be part of the management of the Rafah crossing when it is opened in both directions.

In this context, the meeting between Hussein al-Sheikh and Tony Blair in Amman today comes. Blair will be responsible for the committee that will govern the Gaza Strip the day after the war…

An Arab source from the mediating countries said that the parties are preparing for the second phase of negotiations, which will focus on who will govern the areas from which the Israeli army will withdraw in the Gaza Strip.
The Arab countries want to bring in 5,000 Palestinian Authority police officers, recently trained in Egypt, to maintain public order in the Gaza Strip, alongside international and Arab forces.”

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 12 2025 14:53 utc | 19

Riveting accounts of return, from Tareq S. Hajjaj:

Those returning describe a mix of relief and devastation. “We walked eight hours to reach our neighborhood in al-Shuja’iyya,” said Mahmoud Wady, one of the returnees. “When we arrived, we were shocked by the destruction. My home is gone, and the entire area has been flattened. Still, we are grateful to be back and to know that the bombing has stopped, but we are terrified over so many things — our lives, our children, our future. We don’t know whether we will live in a tent again for a long while or not. We have no sense of what the future holds. But we are grateful and happy that the war has ended.”

https://mondoweiss.net/2025/10/gazans-march-north-again-returning-to-homes-made-of-rubble/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 12 2025 15:04 utc | 22

“Europeans rape and destroy. They have no brothers or sisters. Difficult to make a good argument that Europeans (all Westerners) are even human. Again, no humanity. They are beasts.Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 14:39 utc | 17
So true, Africa was a bastion of peace and love before the first Muslim slave traders arrived. There was no rape, theft, murder, torture, slavery or warfare before that. 

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 15:08 utc | 23

Without the prospect of getting at the oil and gas under the Med, including offshore from Gaza, the US would never have blown up Nord Stream.

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 12 2025 15:11 utc | 24

So the Gaza genocide was already being planned, including by the US, when Nord Stream was blown up.

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 12 2025 15:14 utc | 25

painter – slave traders were Jewish. 😋
BTW what do you think of this ?
Bottom of darkness’: Children raped in ritual ceremonies expose the horrors
 
I suffered painful sodomy, truly felt like I was splitting in two. It’s a terrible experience, but there’s something about these things, perhaps in their strangeness, that’s like… maybe the hardest component is that if you tell people about these things, they’ll think you’re crazy. I remember many types of severe sexual abuse, but there’s something about these ritualistic abuses that makes them the bottom of darkness.”
 
In direct words and with a clear voice, Emunah (pseudonym, like all victims’ names in this article) describes the severe abuse she allegedly experienced in her childhood. Organized sexual abuse that included “ceremonies” with supposed religious significance. Horrifying ceremonies in which religious people, some from her own family, sacrificed her as an offering for spiritual transcendence or redemption.
Emunah is not alone. More than ten women between the ages of 20-45 with whom we spoke describe a severe phenomenon raising serious concern that in Israel organized sexual abuse of children is occurring right under everyone’s nose…….
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/04/23/bottom-of-darkness-children-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies-expose-the-horrors/

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2025 15:22 utc | 26

 
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1977385774044618874
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
Israel’s Prime Minister cannot do anything honestly, and he is sabotaging the first article of the deal: the exchange of prisoners. 
 
The deal is clear:
20 Israeli prisoners in exchange for 250 Palestinian prisoners sentenced to several life sentences. Netanyahu is offering 195 even (though) he agreed on 250.
 
Hamas is saying now it is ready. Netanyahu is trying to embarrass Hamas. We need to see what will happen in the following hours.
 
————-
 
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1977380130537234688
Caitlin Johnstone  @caitoz 
 
Israeli defense minister explicitly says the slaughter is going to resume after they get their hostages back.
 
 
https://x.com/Israel_katz/status/1977253298580160601
israel katz 
 
Israel’s great challenge after the phase of returning the hostages will be the destruction of all of Hamas’s terror tunnels in Gaza, directly by the IDF and through the international mechanism to be established under the leadership and supervision of the United States. 
 
This is the primary significance of implementing the agreed-upon principle of demilitarizing Gaza and neutralizing Hamas of its weapons. 
 
I have instructed the IDF to prepare for carrying out the mission.
 
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 12 2025 15:22 utc | 27

@JB

Formatting – if possible turn off javascript for site in settings. Not all browsers allow this but many do. Berry and Stoutner Privacy allow this in Android, Firefox and Fenec also, probably others. On Windows there must be various also, though have not tested. Simplest otherwise is to download a lightweight browser (the first two above for example) and use that just for MoA and non java browsing etc.

With java off on Android presentation is fine, there are not the writing window options of caps, italics etc… but what you write or paste gets posted as written.

b mentioned that formatting was imbeded in various layers of programming that would require a lot of work and knowledge to change to a wanted format.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 12 2025 15:34 utc | 28

reported that the Palestinian Authority has received assurances that it will be part of the governing authority in the Gaza Strip.
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 12 2025 14:53 utc | 19
 
 
 
Assurances from whom, I wonder …?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2025 15:50 utc | 29

American and Israeli assurances are worthless.
 
I pity the muppets who continue to fall for this stuff.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 16:00 utc | 30

The elephant in the room is obviously what will happen after Hamas hands over the last hostages they still hold. The Zionazi regime will gloat over what they achieved (not that there was anything exceptionally difficult to their perpetual lying and deceiving) and reboot the Gaza Holocaust where they left of. The current guarantors of the truce will do nothing to stop it because they are either complicit from the start or have been shielding the Zionazi’s all this time from repercussions.

Posted by: xor | Oct 12 2025 16:27 utc | 31

The international community by a supermajority decided on a fair and just peace plan back in Sept 2024 when it passed UNGA resolution 12626.
https://press.un.org/en/2024/ga12626.doc.htm
 
The Palestinians have offered Israelis a secure and lasting Peace in their Peking Declaration signed in July 2014. this peace plan jives with the decision of the International community.
 
Text of Peking Declaration ( in arabic)https://dflp.org/4411/

Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2025 16:36 utc | 32

“The Africans have a term for it. Ubuntu. “It means brotherliness”
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Oct 12 2025 14:39 utc | 18
Once again you misunderstand the meaning of ‘ubuntnu”;
 
“Consider the African philosophy of “ubuntu” — a concept in which your sense of self is shaped by your relationships with other people. It’s a way of living that begins with the premise that “I am” only because “we are.” The Kenyan literary scholar James Ogude believes ubuntu might serve as a counterweight to the rampant individualism that’s so pervasive in the contemporary world.
 
“Ubuntu is rooted in what I call a relational form of personhood, basically meaning that you are because of the others,” said Ogude, speaking to Steve Paulson and Anne Strainchamps in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. “In other words, as a human being, you—your humanity, your personhood—you are fostered in relation to other people.”
 
In practice, ubuntu means believing the common bonds within a group are more important than any individual arguments and divisions within it. “People will debate, people will disagree; it’s not like there are no tensions,” said Ogude. “It is about coming together and building a consensus around what affects the community. And once you have debated, then it is understood what is best for the community, and then you have to buy into that.”
 
Archbishop Desmond Tutu drew on the concept of ubuntu when he led South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which helped South Africa reckon with its history of apartheid. Ubuntu promotes restorative justice and a community-centric ethos. “We have the ability, as people, to dig into our human values, to go for the best of them, in order to bring about healing and to bridge the gap,” (1)
 
1.https://www.ttbook.org/interview/i-am-because-we-are-african-philosophy-ubuntu
1.

Posted by: canuk | Oct 12 2025 16:39 utc | 33

But that’s not the worst of it! The saddest thing is that we’ll pay to go, once again, as long as it’s still a good show…
By the way, we love marketing!
inconsequential-peace
https://textosandroides.blogspot.com/2024/12/intrascendente-paz.html
 
Posted by: Santi | Oct 12 2025 12:44 utc | 4
 
I hate to break it to you, but nobody likes the show, Santi.  Plus, nobody pays willing to watch it.  They are forced to or they live in a box behind the grocery store.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 12 2025 16:39 utc | 34

” So the Gaza genocide was already being planned, including by the US, when Nord Stream was blown up.
Posted by: Lysias | Oct 12 2025 15:14 utc | 26
Yes, most of these “spontaneous” events are scripted soap opera. When the Gaza situation is off radar expect another event promptly. 

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:39 utc | 35

How ultra Zionist Ellison senior and junior are doing their best to undermine BDS to help the Zio-Monsters. New CBS owner David Ellison met with top Israeli general in scheme to spy on Americans – The Grayzone

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 16:42 utc | 36

” painter – slave traders were Jewish. 
Posted by: Exile | Oct 12 2025 15:22 utc | 27
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Very true, its documented that many of the major slavers supplying the Ottomans and Moors with Africans, Europeans, and others were Jews, just like  later in the West. However, they werent the ones doing the “grunt” work, which was done by Muslim raiding parties. As far as your article, the true Jewish “religion” is not what we think it is. 

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:44 utc | 37

They have no brothers or sisters. Difficult to make a good argument that Europeans (all Westerners) are even human.
 
Again, no humanity.
 
They are beasts.
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 14:39 utc | 18
 
Well, you’ve gone and done it.  Probably the most racist and hateful lie I’ve read at MOA.  You’re better than this, Love.  Take a deep breath and think.  The hate is just blinding you, which is a shame because you know better.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 12 2025 16:44 utc | 38

The f*ckin UN – typical – it cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
 
“Behind closed doors, the noted ‘humanitarian interventionist’ successfully lobbied for Israel’s inclusion on important UN committees even after the Human Rights Council accused it of targeting civilians in Gaza.
The leaked emails also reveal that Israel furnished Power with a dodgy dossier on Syrian chemical weapons as she pushed regime change in Damascus.
Former US ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power secretly coordinated with a top Israeli diplomat to secure Israel’s access to multiple prestigious UN committees, leaked files show.
Several unsolicited emails sent by Power to the then ambassador of Israel to the UN, Ron Prosor, show the diplomat celebrating her role in polishing Israel’s image on the global stage.
The emails between the two diplomats reveal how the US-Israeli special relationship operates at a granular level, and help map out the personal interactions which ensure Israel enjoys constant diplomatic cover at an international level. They are among the latest batch of hacked files belonging to Israeli government officials which were leaked by the Handala hacking collective.”
 
Samantha Power secretly colluded with Israel to enhance UN role, leaked emails show – The Grayzone

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 16:44 utc | 39

” You’re better than this, Love.   
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 12 2025 16:44 utc | 39
 
Actually, she/he/ it have proven many times over that they arent “better then that. ” 

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:47 utc | 40

8200 Unit – Zio-Monsters exposed.
 
“A group of pro-Palestinian hackers has disclosed the identities of 15 Israeli “criminals” active in the regime’s military industry, exposing ongoing security vulnerabilities in the regime.
In a post on X on Sunday, the Handala hacking group listed the names of these individuals, who are linked to the Israeli air force, technology infrastructure, and the infamous Unit 8200, which is known for its roles in electronic espionage, signal intelligence, code decryption, and cyber warfare, among other covert operations.
The hacking group issued a stern warning to these individuals, saying that they are being closely monitored.
The exposed information is as follows:
Matan Shalev
He has a strong educational background with studies in Computer Science, Mechanical Engineering, and Embedded Programming at Amit High School, Ben Gurion University, and Real Time College. He has work experience at Indoor Robotics Ltd and Stratasys Ltd, focusing on real-time systems, Linux, and C++. He also served as a Commander of a combat squad in the Israeli military’s Paratroopers, specifically in the 890th battalion.
Aviv Sidy
He is a Backend Developer for the Israeli Air Force, known for his work on a NodeJS web server and drone command systems using Python. He studied software engineering at Hakfar Hayarok College and received cyber training at Alon High School.
Yana Chen 
She has over 5 years of experience as an electronic engineer, with 4 years at IAF headquarters. Her background is in electrical engineering, focusing on lab and analog circuits. Currently, she works as an Electrical Estimator at Guild Electric Limited and has experience as an instructor at ORT Hermelin. She has dedicated nearly 9 years to the Israeli Air Force in various roles, gaining hands-on experience with complex systems. Yana holds an Engineer’s degree from Holon Institute of Graphic Technology and is fluent in Hebrew and English. 
Maor Eini  
He is a Full Stack Team Leader at Folloze, where he utilizes his expertise in software engineering, particularly in Heroku, PostgreSQL, and Redis. His skills as a Software Engineer have been refined through his work at SkyWatch.AI, VOOM Insurance, HelloGbye, and Algotec. In the past, he served as a Programmer at Unit 8200 – Israeli Intelligence Corps, gaining valuable experience. He holds a Bachelor of Science (BSc) in Computer Science from The College of Management- Academic Studies.  
 
Harel Edrai 
He has a B. Sc. in Electrical and Electronics Engineering from Azrieli College, graduating with a GPA of 85. He has been with Rafael Advanced Defense Systems since 2022, leading projects on embedded systems with CPLD and FPGA devices. His experience includes designing digital and analog boards with tools like Mentor Xpedition, LTspice, and PSpice. Previously, he worked at EPS Tech Ltd as an R&D System Engineer and was involved in vehicle development and autonomous systems at Elta Systems. Harel also served in the Israeli military’s Air Force as an Iron Dome radar technician team leader. He is skilled in programming languages and various software tools. 
Tzach Shurman 
He is an experienced professional with a broad background in management. He excels in decision-making and has successfully led many projects by setting high goals and motivating his team. His expertise includes turning ideas into profitable businesses and developing AI-based technologies. He has also served as a Reserve Officer in the Israel Air Force since 2005 and holds an LL. B with honors. 
Jeryes Danial 
He is pursuing a PhD at Haifa University, focusing on indoor navigation and pose estimation for small drones, under Prof. Yosi Ben Asher. He is developing real-time obstacle detection algorithms and advanced Kalman filter methods. Danial also works at Mobileye in al-Quds as a software and algorithm developer, leading projects on automated parking assist with real-time displays. He previously gained experience in embedded systems at ‘Tracxpoint’, working on navigation and localization systems. His background includes military and volunteer service with the Israel Police and senior leadership as a .NET developer at Epsilon Delta. 
Ben Tubul 
He has greatly contributed to Percepto by building a ground rover platform, creating APIs, and managing complex systems. He designed drone navigation algorithms at Iron Drone and has military experience as a marine electrician. His education at ‘Azrieli’ College of Engineering enhances his technical skills. 
Dvir Sason 
He has a strong background in Electrical Engineering and experience in Autonomous Systems software and hardware. He has worked at Rafael Advanced Defense Systems LTD since 2019, focusing on designing Autonomous Systems software. He previously worked as a Software Engineer in the Israel Defense Forces from 2014 to 2019 and graduated with a BSc in 2014. 
Guy Cohen 
He has a background in Mechanical Engineering and software development. He has worked at Elbit Defense Systems since 2016 on large applications. He graduated from Ben-Gurion University and is skilled in multiple programming languages. He also served in the Israeli military’s Artillery Corps. 
Yelena Samoilvich 
He is an experienced software engineer with over ten years in the field. He has developed UAV flight control systems at Elbit, led projects at Rafael, and worked on cardiac imaging software at EPD Solutions. He currently develops the Drone Dome anti-drone system at CodeValue. Yelena is skilled in various programming languages and technologies and holds a B. Sc. in Information Systems Engineering from the Technion. 
Alex Vilkomir 
He has over ten years of experience in FPGA and hardware design. He shaped embedded digital boards for Israel’s defense forces and led hardware development at ElectReon, creating prototypes with complex FPGA algorithms. His skills include VHDL, Verilog, and Xilinx SoC platforms. At Airobotics, he designed drone communication systems and managed outsourced teams. His experience in the Israeli military’s communication section helped him in embedded VHF system development. He has a degree in electrical and electronics engineering from the Holon Institute of Technology. 
In recent months, a series of cyberattacks carried out by Handala has targeted Israeli regime facilities, resulting in the leak of sensitive military data, diplomatic communications, and other classified information.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 16:50 utc | 41

Could it be arranged for Trump and all his followers to be swallowed up into the Red  Sea. A nice little Moab on  Sharm al Sheikh would do the job nicely.
The world would be a safer place for a few days.
 

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 12 2025 16:51 utc | 42

I find it strange that fate two years of utter destruction, starvation and slaughter. The Jewish hostages looked, clean, healthy, with clean clothes and well fed. While Hamas had nice clean uniforms and guns and also looked fed. All the videos of combat out of Gaza show Palestinian fighters in rag tag, street clothes style “uniforms”. 

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:55 utc | 43

Hopefully just the start of many prosecutions.
 
“Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni says she and two of her ministers have been reported to the International Criminal Court (ICC) for purported complicity in genocide in connection with Israel’s genocidal military campaign against Palestinians in the besieged Gaza Strip.
Speaking in an interview with public television broadcaster RAI on Tuesday, Meloni said Defense Minister Guido Crosetto and Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani had been denounced, and “I think” also Roberto Cingolani, the head of defense group Leonardo.
“I don’t believe there is another case like this in the world or in history,” Meloni said.
She did not elaborate on who had brought the case against her and her ministers.
The complaint, dated October 1, was signed by some 50 people, including law professors, lawyers, and several public figures who accused Meloni and others of complicity by supplying arms to Israel.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 17:00 utc | 44

Why everyone so glum around here? Hamas won (since they survived), and Israel lost (since it didn’t finish the job). 

Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Oct 12 2025 17:02 utc | 45

I’m not surprised at this at all – Uni’s in Scotland are English security services safe houses.
 
“Leaked emails have revealed that UK universities spied on students’ social media and chat groups at the request of arms companies supplying weapons to Israel.
According to internal correspondence obtained by The Guardian and Liberty Investigates, several universities assured these weapons manufacturers that they would keep watch over students’ online activity to detect and preempt potential protests.
Over the past two years, large-scale pro-Palestinian demonstrations have taken place across UK campuses, with students demanding an end to arms sales to the Israeli regime.
In one case, a university responding to a weapon manufacturer’s “security questionnaire” said it would conduct “active monitoring of social media” to detect any planned protests against Rolls-Royce during a careers fair.
Rolls-Royce, the UK’s second-largest arms manufacturer, directly supplies key components for Israeli military vehicles. Its German subsidiary, MTU, also produces engines used in Israel’s battle tanks, armored personnel carriers, and warships.
Loughborough University told a recruitment firm running a “Rolls-Royce roadshow” that its security team was conducting “active monitoring of social media … to provide early intelligence about protests.”
Emails from Heriot-Watt University suggest that Raytheon UK requested the university to “monitor university chat groups” on its behalf before a careers fair — and the university agreed to “implement the measures you have suggested.”
Similarly, Glasgow and Cardiff universities faced pressure from major UK aerospace firms — BAE Systems and Leonardo — to track online activity before career events. Some events were later moved online after potential protests were identified.
The UK also supplies BAE-made components to a global pool of F-35 fighter jets that Israel can access.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 12 2025 17:04 utc | 46

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 12 2025 16:44 utc | 39
 
######
 
You really don’t understand. I am not mad. I am calling a spade a spade.
 
Europeans have committed genocide many times, and they are continuing to do so today.
 
Stop killing, raping, and stealing, and people will stop hating.
 
A “human” who does not hate evil is just another beast IMO. A MAGA that pretends Epstein didn’t exist.
 
You might want to be less tribal when you’re siding with the Zionists.
 
Or maybe you don’t…
 
With enough time and discourse, everyone reveals who they really are.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 17:14 utc | 47

I find it strange that fate two years of utter destruction, starvation and slaughter. The Jewish hostages looked, clean, healthy, with clean clothes and well fed. While Hamas had nice clean uniforms and guns and also looked fed. All the videos of combat out of Gaza show Palestinian fighters in rag tag, street clothes style “uniforms”.
 
Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:55 utc | 44
 
#####
 
That’s the difference between Zionism and Islam.
 
Atheists (don’t know you’re one) will never understand the world because they deny themselves information while they deny the unseen (unsensed).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 17:18 utc | 48

“Atheists (don’t know you’re one) will never understand the world because they deny themselves information while they deny the unseen (unsensed).
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 17:18 utc | 49
 
I wouldnt talk about spiritual things as you are not a good representation. Also, talk about missing my point.

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 17:31 utc | 49

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:55 utc | 44
You most likely find it strange because everything you have viewed is via someone else’s lens with a narrative that they are pushing along with it. Maybe you see things that reinforce your biases. Your insinuation that what you’re seeing is staged may have 1% truth, but sadly the events are very real.
Which painter are you alluding / aspiring to? The shitty, talentless, fascist painter?

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 12 2025 17:35 utc | 50

“Which painter are you alluding / aspiring to? The shitty, talentless, fascist painter?
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 12 2025 17:35 utc | 51
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” everything you have viewed is via someone else’s lens with a narrative that they are pushing along with it. Maybe you see things that reinforce your biases.  ”
 

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 17:47 utc | 51

Mahmood OD: Moves To Lebanon
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD
 
“Israel intensifies strikes and confirms: ‘We’re preparing for a bigger regional war.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 12 2025 17:52 utc | 52

What about Precious Armageddon? Jesus2/Messiah will never show up with this Peace Shit! /s

Posted by: Nobody | Oct 12 2025 18:15 utc | 53

From The Cradle
 
Leaked US files expose secret Israeli–Arab military pact targeting Iran during Gaza genocide: Report

While Arab states condemned Israel’s war on Palestinians in Gaza as a genocide, they were simultaneously secretly expanding military cooperation with the US and Israel to help defend against a war with Iran, leaked documents revealed by the Washington Post on 11 October show.
The documents, written between 2022 and 2025, show that officials from six Arab countries joined their Israeli and US counterparts for a series of meetings in Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, and Qatar over the past three years.
The documents described efforts by the US military to create the “Regional Security Construct,” which would include Israel, Qatar, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.
The documents refer to Kuwait and Oman as “potential partners” in the project.
The participants met to prepare to protect Israel during a possible war with Iran by integrating their forces with US air defense systems.
The documents show that the “centerpiece of the construct” was “an air-defense plan to combat Iran’s missiles and drones,” the Post wrote.

The Arab states seem quite corrupt.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 12 2025 18:24 utc | 54

Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:44 utc | 38
 
a great book a decade in the making is the secret relationship between the blacks and the jews part 1.
only uses kosher khazhar sources an epic tale.

Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 12 2025 18:25 utc | 55

From Middle East Eye
 
Hamas says Tony Blair not welcome in Gaza following ceasefire
 
Just what will evolve as the next steps?  I am reading lack of agreement on what Palestine hostages are released as well as the number of them…..will the ceasefire last until Trump leaves?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 12 2025 18:29 utc | 56

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 12 2025 16:39 UTC | 35
Please! What are you trying to say? Is there no freedom of thought or action for any human being on the planet? That they simply impose a narrative, a war, or a political-economic-social submission on us without our consent?That’s absolutely outside any parameters that fit living, conscious beings!Nothing can be imposed on the rest of living beings without extreme coercion or death.Everything a person accepts is much more about themselves (their own choice and consent) than it is about the crude system or the elite that offers it. We are permanently complicit in our destruction and the destruction of the planet, because it’s more convenient, easier, and more fun, and because no one will ever hold us accountable for it.

Posted by: Santi | Oct 12 2025 18:45 utc | 57

Just to clarify the status of the “Trump plan” : 
ONLY the first phase has been agreed upon: ceasefire, exchange of prisoners, entry of aid.
 
Nothing else contained in the “peace plan” has been discussed or agreed with the Palestinian resistance represented by Hamas, which, Resistance, has plainly stated that all the other issues are a matter of national discussion and decision. They have repeatedly stated that Gaza can only be administered by a Palestinian body chosen by Palestinians, that Resistance will not disarm until there is a Palestinian army of an existing Palestinian state and that  no foreign troops will be tolerated.
 
All statements coming from the genocide-complicit colonialists and their collaborators (for example Egypt) should be read with that in mind.
 
We will see tomorrow what the spectacle  in Sharm el Sheikh will project, no doubt Hollywood style. As the collaborator Abbas appears to have been granted permission to attend  all the collaborators will be present.

Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 18:51 utc | 58

I wouldnt talk about spiritual things as you are not a good representation. Also, talk about missing my point.
 
Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 17:31 utc | 50
 
######
 
Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Your point was irrelevant to me except that I could use it as an opportunity to make my point.
 
Muslims care for their prisoners. Zionists (and Japs) experiment on them and rape them.
 
How they behave tells us everything we need to know about them.
 
One cohort is human, the other is animal. Let’s stop talking about deranged psychopathic animals like they are human, ok?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 18:52 utc | 59

@30 Arch

From Bliar I should imagine, meaning also from the rest of the posse.

It’s not even funny … there are gangs in Gaza headed by ex-Fatah fully integrated with occupation… one I saw didn’t even look to be from the region.

What it seems like though is an attempt at culminating Fatah’s dispute with Hamas, i.e. its original attempt to negate the elections and overthrow Hamas.

Then “Israel” will be nice(r) to them and respect them and hand over west bank, because someone at a seaside resort said so. /

The direction is to erase Hamas , placing all responsibility for genocide onto it, and Fatah will play their part in that for the western audience, because they are ‘legitimate representatives’ of Palestine in the international circuit, while ‘Hamas are terrorists’.

They already blame Hamas.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 12 2025 18:52 utc | 60

The Palestinian irregular forces took a two year beating of unbelievable intensity, and yet continued combat operations against the IDF until the ceasefire, indeed the day before the ceasefire they ambushed an IDF patrol in Gaza City.
Israel will never defeat the Palestinian freedom movement, its an organic movement swimming easily in the Sea of the Palestinian people.
The IDF dropped 100k tons of ordinance on Gaza and still did not win…….amazing………

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 12 2025 18:56 utc | 61

And they will never dump arms either.

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 12 2025 18:57 utc | 62

🔹@enemywatch
The brother of Saleh al-Jaafarawi (r) confirms that he was killed today in clashes against Israeli-backed terrorist militias in the Gaza Strip. According to local journalists, his body was brought to the Baptist Hospital of Gaza.
 
 
Saleh al-Jaafarawi was a journalist from Gaza City, known for his distinctive coverage of the war on Gaza and the occupation’s crimes, as well as for his supportive stance toward the Palestinian resistance. He was also a community initiator and activist in charitable work and a graduate of media from the Islamic University in Gaza. Throughout the war, he was repeatedly targeted and incited against by the spokesperson of the occupation army, amid Israeli calls for his assassination. He was ultimately killed by an outlaw gang in the Sabra neighborhood of Gaza after the gang refused to surrender to resistance and Gaza security agencies.Alongside Saleh, months ago Anas Al-Sharif was also martyred. Both journalists had been repeatedly threatened with assassination by the occupation, and propaganda was continuously circulated against them due to their positions and media coverage of the war. Anas Al-Sharif was killed a few months ago during the occupation’s bombing campaigns, while Saleh was killed recently at the hands of an outlaw gang shortly after the announcement of the cessation of war. In just 48 hours, Israeli media figure Youssef Haddad launched a massive media campaign against Saleh, explicitly calling for his elimination and urging the suspension of his internet accounts, labeling him as one of the people who “attacked the Gaza envelope” on October 7. Interestingly, some American “fake resistance” channels are falsely claiming that Hamas is fighting against Palestinians, while in reality, they are crushing the mercenary militias in large numbers.

Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 18:59 utc | 63

President Trump’s Jewish son-in-law tells Israelis he is proud of them for not ‘replicating the barbarism of the enemy and choosing to be exceptional.’@Middle_East_Spectator
Very sad is the day when a creature like J Kushner decides about the fate of the Palestinian nation. What kind of mankind allows, or accepts something like that ? !

Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 19:06 utc | 64

Israeli Defense Minister Yisrael Katz : The biggest challenge facing Israel after the release of the prisoners is the direct demolition of all tunnels in Gaza by the military and through the US-led international mechanism.  
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And so the goalposts shift again…  a secret annex to the “20-point plan”? 

Posted by: jayc | Oct 12 2025 19:20 utc | 65

Recommended:
Recognition amid genocide seeks to undermine Palestinian anti-colonial resistance, 
by Emile Badarin
 
Main point:  The urgent task is not symbolic recognition but holding Israel accountable, ending its settler-colonial project, stopping the genocide, and securing justice and reparations for the victims.
 
Exc:
Embedded in all western peace overtures is the denial of Palestinian self-determination, which manifests as attempts to subject the Palestinian people to either direct foreign tutelage through the so-called “Board of Peace” headed by Trump and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, or indirectly through conditions imposed by western states in exchange for their recognition.
 
Rather than hold Israel accountable for genocide, this approach rewards it with regional normalisation while denying Palestinians their right to resist a settler-colonial regime and pursue freedom.
 
Today, 157 countries recognise Palestine. Yet decades of international support for the two-state solution have failed to deliver Palestinian statehood. Additional external recognition by more countries cannot create a state.
 
This politics of recognition is detached from reality, a fact most clearly illustrated by its refusal to recognise Gaza’s genocide for what it is, instead reframing it as a mere “war”, “conflict” or an “appalling situation”, as British Prime Minister Keir Starmer has called it – something supposedly solvable through further negotiations, peace talks and plans.
 
As the genocide enters into its third year, diplomatic recognition, peace conferences and invocations of the two-state solution are hollow gestures that serve only to distract.
 
The urgent task is not symbolic recognition but holding Israel accountable, ending its settler-colonial project, stopping the genocide, and securing justice and reparations for the victims.
 
full: https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/recognition-amid-genocide-seeks-undermine-palestinian-anti-colonial-resistance

Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 19:39 utc | 67

Nobody 54
 
Jesus#2 was Trump front face, Nutter back face. Whatever Frontface said, backface did the opposite. Backface said Frontface had inspired him to finish the job, and front face replied ,   fuck you, meaning , thanj you . I could never have done it without you, xxxooo.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 12 2025 19:53 utc | 68

“I wouldn’t talk about spiritual things as you are not a good representation.” Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 17:31 utc | 50
Old Dumbass won’t even disclose if he is a man or a woman [I think is he a, ‘they’, editor] yet he is the spiritual one?
Dumbass is a farce.
 

Posted by: canuk | Oct 12 2025 20:04 utc | 69

You can call me AS if you want. GFY. This chide of cuntishness is a ziofascist piece of work. 
‘President Trump’s Jewish son-in-law tells Israelis he is proud of them for not ‘replicating the barbarism of the enemy and choosing to be exceptional.’
 
Unbelievable! 😔
 
The Mailman 
 
@Slavyangrad‘

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 12 2025 20:11 utc | 70

 
see the 30-second video at the second link 🙂 🙂
 
see the photo at the third link
 
 
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1977356601989226946
Tiberius  @ecomarxi 
 
Zionists are just now realising that ending the slaughter won’t change a damned thing about the whole world despising Israel and calling for an end to the normalisation of this genocidal little regime
 
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https://x.com/blondfighter20/status/1977024271441707082
Emelia @blondfighter20 
 
A Palestinian girl celebrates receiving a plate of pasta after hours of waiting in front of a charity kitchen in the Gaza Strip.
My little soul may Allah bless you and forgive us
 
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https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1977423308821012645
Gaza Notifications  @gazanotice 
 
🚨 BREAKING: Palestinian journalist and activist Saleh al-Ja’frawi has been confirmed killed in Gaza. 
 
Al-Ja’frawi had previously received direct Israeli threats as part of a campaign targeting journalists who exposed the Israeli army’s crimes during the war. 
 
Initial reports indicate he was killed inside Gaza, with suspicions pointing to collaborators working with Israeli forces in carrying out the assassination.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 12 2025 20:17 utc | 71

UK press.    ??????
 
Hamas has created the ‘perfect recipe for civil war’ after the terror group vowed to ‘cleanse Gaza of outlaws and collaborators with Israel’, an expert has warned. 
Some 7,000 gunmen have been called on by Hamas to reassert control over areas of the enclave that were vacated by Israeli forces during the two-year-long war.
It comes as Israel expects all living hostages to be released by Hamas within hours – bringing to an end horrifying ordeals that included starvation, torture and being forced to dig their own graves.
However, Israel and Hamas are said to be locked in last-minute negotiations over the release of Palestinian prisoners.   
Hamas units have been deployed across several districts, while the militant group has already appointed five new governors, all with military backgrounds.
Fearing of a civil war in Gaza, a retired security officer who served for years with the Palestinian Authority said he feared the territory was heading towards another round of internal conflict. 
‘Hamas hasn’t changed. It still believes that weapons and violence are the only means to keep its movement alive,’ he told the BBC.
‘Gaza is flooded with arms. Looters have stolen thousands of weapons and rounds of ammunition from Hamas stores during the war, and some groups have even received supplies from Israel.
 
Disinfo, part truth, twisted truth or whatever?

Posted by: Jo | Oct 12 2025 20:22 utc | 72

They shook the crypto market. My hope it was our side and appears to be. Good job peace loving women and men!

Posted by: dobby | Oct 12 2025 21:01 utc | 73

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 12 2025 18:24 utc | 55
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They (the Arabs) are not corrupt they simply have no choice. 
The Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) i.e. the Persians; are the only country in the region who cares about the Palestinians.

Posted by: pepe | Oct 12 2025 21:16 utc | 74

— 🇳🇴/🇮🇱 NEW: In a shocking antisemitic incident, the Far-Right White Nationalist football team of Norway beat the Jewish state of Israel 5-0 in the world cup qualifiers, after the referee was allegedly bribed by Qatar
 
The manager of the Israeli team, Ben Shimon, expressed his horror: ‘It’s like the 1940s all over again.’

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/24514
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 12 2025 21:19 utc | 75

— 🇮🇷/🇺🇸/🇪🇬 NEW: Iran’s Foreign Minister, Abbas Araqchi, confirms to the media that Iran has officially declined the American-Egyptian invitation to attend the Gaza ceasefire summit in Sharm El-Sheikh

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/24536

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 12 2025 21:21 utc | 76

The delusional ceasefire and the inevitable resumption of fighting by Jasim Al-Azzawi
 
The current ceasefire does not address any of the fundamental realities that drive this conflict, including occupation, statelessness, and the imbalance of power between Israel and the Palestinians. It is a transactional pause designed to gain short-term gains — the return of hostages — while delaying the inevitable confrontation.
 
Without credible international guarantees, without resolving the question of Palestinian sovereignty, and without tempering Israel’s desire for military retribution, this accord will soon shatter. The world may hail this temporary cessation, but those who look closely recognize it for what it is: the calm before the next storm — a truce written in disappearing ink
 
https://english.palinfo.com/opinion_articles/the-delusional-ceasefire-and-the-inevitable-resumption-of-fighting/

Posted by: JB | Oct 12 2025 21:21 utc | 77

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 12 2025 21:19 utc | 76

       Surprised they were even allowed to play given the ongoing Genocide in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon and Syria.
 
       My guess is that the Norwegian gov and people are afraid of the Zionists.
 
       They have much evidence of politicians that’s for sure not to mention military affairs and sabottage.
 

Posted by: pepe | Oct 12 2025 21:24 utc | 78

I would like to make a necessary clarification, so that some understand their own context (and that not understanding it allows them to generate incoherent, absurd, supremacist, etc. topics and opinions): When an American or a European speaks, they are not talking to the rest of the world, but only to themselves, that is why they can invoke the rhetorical figure of “the West” as if tens or hundreds of millions of inhabitants of nations abused, violated, massacred and impoverished for decades, could put themselves in a unified block, and shake hands with a handful of inhuman, useless sadistic imperialists. It’s not like that…Except for a tiny handful of Machiavellian elites around the world, including the families that own the shaky oil monarchies of the Persian Gulf, they may think this way, but the rest of the population knows that the owners of the imperial machine are not their friends, and that they will never invite them to their table, no matter what sacrifices and concessions they make.That’s why China and Russia won the war a long time ago, without firing a shot, and why invading Venezuela would be the most immense stupidity, as well as a tragedy.That’s why little Gaza not only doesn’t surrender, but is increasingly supported by the inhabitants of these countries, who have endured all the echelons of subjugation, interference, and economic vassalage.Whether in the MOA bar, the UN, or any other international forum from which they haven’t yet been expelled, Europeans and Yankees can only see their importance through a worn-out mirror that bears no resemblance to reality. Beyond that, their opinions are recognized as ridiculous and pedantic, and therefore ignored or validated, just as a child who throws stones into the sea and claims the waves obey him is ignored or validated…

Posted by: Santi | Oct 12 2025 21:24 utc | 79

@pepe | Oct 12 2025 21:24 utc | 79
Agreed, it should not have happened.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 12 2025 21:26 utc | 80

In an insane world where any wealth besides physical is not guaranteed, are they going after crypto first?  I’ve been targeted with legal wallets. They got their nose in everything digital. They’re probably watching everyone right now, like Gaza. Another conquest coming.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 12 2025 21:29 utc | 81

@72 michael

Saleh had his reputation attacked and was on occupation hitlist, some controversy was not explained (destination of funding for example), no judgement as until now had not heard of him, have not researched properly either.

Apparently he was kidnapped and executed, possibly tortured also, with one photo purported to show cuff marks and broken hand.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 12 2025 21:31 utc | 82

On X, some people are saying it was mosad, and the three Qataris killed were diplomats who were to represent Palestine in negotiations Monday. One picture of the car looked like the entire front hood had been removed? Also, what of the other two Qatari officials injured? in another incident involving a different car? Is this real news? It is on Reuters.

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 12 2025 21:37 utc | 83

Lavieja | Oct 12 2025 21:37 utc | 84
 
teri @12 reports a “steering wheel malfunction”. A device attached to the steering system that instantly pushes the wheels hard left/right is a favoured tool among intelligence agencies for deniable assassinations. It requires access to the wreck in the aftermath to remove the device but the Egyptian security services are likely heavily penetrated by Mossad.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Oct 12 2025 22:00 utc | 84

I just don’t get it. Why is Hamas agreeing to a “truce, ceasefire, peace agreement”, call it what you will. Wtf have they gained from it? Don’t they see the Izzies wil say ‘Oh look, someone shot at one of our soldiers. They broke the truce. In we go again”. Or are they maybe gunna regroup and hit ZioLand again. Or have they just had enough.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 12 2025 22:02 utc | 85

M’kay, so where are we now vis a vis Netanyahu’s unresolved court cases for corruption and tax dodging?
 
Has there been some fiddle done behind the scenes, to ensure that he no longer is subject to judicial oversight and investigation?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 12 2025 22:08 utc | 86

@73 jo

“The genocidal entity “Israel” is attempting to formulate civil disturbance and rebellion in Gaza by funding and supplying collaborators to further cleanse the territory, an observer has noted.

In reply, the governors of Gaza have deployed several thousand armed personel to maintain order in the areas vacated by “Israeli” genocidal forces after their two years of invasion and atrocity.

This occurs as “Israel” awaits the release of prisoners held in Gaza, an associated ceasefire temporarily suspending the horrifying ordeals visited upon the population of Gaza by the entity.

However, last-minute negotiations over the release of Palestinian prisoners have seen efforts at frustration by “Israel” .

Gazan authorities have deployed personel across several districts, while “Israel” has already appointed several new gang leaders, all with military backgrounds.

Promoting the idea of a civil war in Gaza, a retired security officer who served for years with the Palestinian Authority but now works for “Israel” suggested the territory was heading towards another round of sponsored internal conflict.

‘Gaza hasn’t changed. We still believe that weapons and violence are the only means of overthrow’ he told an international propaganda outlet.

‘We have flooded Gaza with arms. Accomplices have stolen thousands of weapons and rounds of ammunition from government stores during the genocidal attack, and all groups have received supplies from Israel.’ ”

Etc.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 12 2025 22:12 utc | 87

American and Israeli assurances are worthless. I pity the muppets who continue to fall for this stuff.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 16:00 utc | 31
 
Well, aren’t Hamas some of the muppets you allude to.

Posted by: Get Real | Oct 12 2025 22:14 utc | 88

 
From Al Jazeera live (20:30 GMT):
 
(Sorry, it keeps jumping into boldface.)
 
 
“Hamas senior official Ghazi Hamad tells Al Jazeera that Israel is not playing fair with the list of Palestinian prisoners it agreed to free in exchange for captives held in Gaza.
 
“The occupation is manipulating the lists of prisoners and even evading the Americans,” Hamad said.
 
About 250 prisoners serving life sentences are expected to be released on Monday along with 1,500 others detained in Gaza since the war began.
 
Hamas has demanded the release of prominent Palestinian Marwan Barghouti, but it’s unclear if Israel will free him.”

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 12 2025 22:16 utc | 89

“I find it strange that fate two years of utter destruction, starvation and slaughter. The Jewish hostages looked, clean, healthy, with clean clothes and well fed. While Hamas had nice clean uniforms and guns and also looked fed. All the videos of combat out of Gaza show Palestinian fighters in rag tag, street clothes style “uniforms”. ”
Posted by: The painter | Oct 12 2025 16:55 utc | 44
You are naive.
Yes the Jewish hostages are/were taken care off-they are the collateral for 2,000 Israeli jailed Palestinians.
Furher, if you want to fight you better have well nourished soldiers

Posted by: canuk | Oct 12 2025 22:19 utc | 90

Posted by: Get Real | Oct 12 2025 22:14 utc | 89
 
#######
 
I was referring to the muppets at MoA who have been going on about Trump and ceasefires for a year.
 
If people haven’t figured out that Trump and all Western governments cannot be trusted, then…
 
It’s one thing that Trump is a mass murderer and pedophile. It’s another that gullible morons hang on his every pronouncement.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 22:24 utc | 91

This guy is good that relates today
https://odysee.com/@Christendumb2:0/Adam-Weishaupt's-Bavarian-Illuminati-Part-1:e
his other channel that’s so much more interesting especially Hitler.
https://odysee.com/@truthhertzradio:b
 

Posted by: dobby | Oct 12 2025 22:25 utc | 92

Arch Bungle | Oct 12 2025 14:40 utc | 19
*** That Muslims like Kadhyrov and Apti Alyudinov should sacrifice their lives in the service of an Orthodox nation that looks down upon them and treats them with suspicion is a shame. Especially when not a single Jewish platoon fought in service of the Russian Federation … And yet, according to the Russian State “The security of israel must be preserved.” ***
 
The regime in Moscow is effectively Zionist-cult controlled, thus not really Orthodox Christian as its leaders pretend for publicity purposes.
Just as the regime in Washington is Zionist-controlled and a mix of openly Zionist Jews and ludicrously so-called “Judeo-Christian” charadists, instead of being Christian.
Despite being Moslem, Lieutenant-General Alaudinov is far more a good Christian than either of the above.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 12 2025 22:29 utc | 93

Hitler the drug addict. Controlled.
https://odysee.com/@truthhertzradio:b/Hitler-the-Drug-Addict:7

Posted by: dobby | Oct 12 2025 22:36 utc | 94

@84 Lavieja

The reporting is hushed, details I noticed, but should be verified:

They were in convoy to a ‘truce deal’ meeting, the PMs vehicle was ahead.

The vehicle carrying diplomats steered off course.

It is said it collided with another vehicle.

Three diplomats did not survive, two (some say three) others were severely injured (some say none survived).

Though I have not found much detail, those that did not survive were said to be lead negotiators, due to be present at meetings tomorrow. Some appear to be royal family, all appear highly placed.

The vehicle appears to have been a Mercedes estate. Some vehicles are now ‘fly by wire’ , some have computer controlled power assist by electric motor, some have hydraulic mechanical assist , and some vehicles have no power assist. So anyone investigating would have to start off by finding what system the vehicle was equipped with.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 12 2025 22:38 utc | 95

Well, you’ve gone and done it.  Probably the most racist and hateful lie I’ve read at MOA.  You’re better than this, Love.  Take a deep breath and think.  The hate is just blinding you, which is a shame because you know better.  
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 12 2025 16:44 utc | 39
Whoa LD. Dude. Stop staring into the abyss. 

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 12 2025 22:41 utc | 96

I was referring to the muppets at MoA who have been going on about Trump and ceasefires for a year. If people haven’t figured out that Trump and all Western governments cannot be trusted, then… It’s one thing that Trump is a mass murderer and pedophile. It’s another that gullible morons hang on his every pronouncement.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 22:24 utc | 92
 
You are indeed a selective blind man. Of course I knew that you were referring to all those on the opposite side to YOU. But is it not true, as your blanket statement literally infers, that ALL who believe and make deals with “Trump and all Western governments …” are muppets for believing them … and that would now include Hamas. Or are Hamas now playing 5D chess.
 
As @Passerby #86 asked above, please explain, with all your inner wisdom, why Hamas have now come around to this peace deal thingy.

Posted by: Get Real | Oct 12 2025 22:51 utc | 97

Exile | Oct 12 2025 15:22 utc | 27
*** Bottom of darkness’: Children raped in ritual ceremonies expose the horrorshttps://www.israelhayom.com/2025/04/23/bottom-of-darkness-children-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies-expose-the-horrors/……………. serious concern that in Israel organized sexual abuse of children is occurring right under everyone’s nose……. ***
 
The actual religion of Israel might best be descrbed as Talmuddic Kabbalism.
Such abuses are perhaps none too surprising given that whenever there is a potential child-abuse scandal involving Jewish religious officials elsewhere in the world, the perpetrators are quietly re-located to Israel to hush it all up.
So by now there must be rather a lot of them, in addition to those who would be living there anyway.
As for the allegedly “secular” Israelis, the war on Gaza has proven there to be a very high percentage of sadists. 
These two types would inevitably tend to work well together.
 
It is quite probable that the recurrent problems of ritual child-murder associated with Jews in Europe for hundreds of years were the actions of cultist groups (comprised of the above sort of people) moving from area / country to country and repeatedly indulging in such behaviour …. then skipping out when things got too hot, leaving un-involved local Jewish communities to try to cover up or effectively take the blame, which they would do having been trained to think that was some sort of religious obligation.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 12 2025 22:59 utc | 98

Sir Arch #19.  I was just rereading today parts of Red Mafiya by Robert Friedman.    The book gives lots of insight into the Russia behaviors regarding the genocide in Gaza.   Russian Zionist mobsters really enjoy the fact that there is no extradition from Izzyhell.  And there are a bunch of the monsters.   Also one will find the reason why Clinton pardoned Marc Rich.    Finally, it occurs to me that the real reason the Epstein files are not being released is not to protect Trump & Co ™, but to protect significant members of the Izzy regime.    Cheers.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 12 2025 23:00 utc | 99

Why is anyone demanding that I speak for Hamas?
 
Hamas is doing what they think is right. They might be correct, they may be wrong. It doesn’t matter as everything is predestined.
 
It is telling that so many are butthurt about being called out rather than agreeing with me and speaking out about evil.
 
As they say, if one sees evil and doesn’t say evil, then they are evil…
 
And if this is evil and one still worships Trump as canuk, Gruff, and many others do, am I really the problem?
 
With every dissonant post, my argument is made.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 12 2025 23:08 utc | 100