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October 9, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-235
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 9 2025 13:58 utc | 11
Posted by: Sticker | Oct 9 2025 21:34 utc | 101 The Floutist, “Keep the Champagne Corked” Posted by: PassionateProgressiv | Oct 9 2025 21:38 utc | 102 @ PassionateProgressiv | Oct 9 2025 21:38 utc | 99 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 21:53 utc | 103 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 9 2025 14:01 utc | 12 Posted by: Sticker | Oct 9 2025 21:59 utc | 104 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 9 2025 18:40 utc | 7 Do you genuily think or believe that NATOnyahoo listen to DJT? Posted by: pepe | Oct 9 2025 21:59 utc | 105 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 9 2025 14:21 utc | 19 Posted by: Sticker | Oct 9 2025 22:03 utc | 106 Canuk #6 Posted by: krypton | Oct 9 2025 22:16 utc | 107 “Now then, Mr. Netanyahu, about your outstanding and unresolved court cases ”… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 9 2025 22:23 utc | 108 This is OCR of the signed agreement, and just passed by Knesset…auto translated so accuracy might be out: “Implementation Steps for President Trump’s Proposal for a “Comprehensive End to the Gaza War” Implementation Steps: 1. President Trump will announce the end of the war in the Gaza Strip, and that the parties have agreed to implement the necessary steps to that end. 2. The war will end immediately upon approval by the Israeli government. All military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardments and shooting operations, will be suspended. During the 72 hours, aerial surveillance over the areas from which IDF forces have withdrawn will be suspended. 3. Immediate commencement of full entry of humanitarian aid and assistance as stipulated in the proposal, and at least in accordance with the January 19, 2025 agreement regarding humanitarian assistance. Implementation Steps The aid and humanitarian assistance are attached hereto. 4. The IDF will withdraw to the lines agreed upon in accordance with Map X attached hereto, and this action will be completed after President Trump’s announcement and within 24 hours of approval by the Israeli government. The IDF will not return to the areas from which it withdrew, Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 22:24 utc | 109 <STRIKE>Israel</STRIKE> <STRIKE>Jewrael</STRIKE> Scumrael ☆ Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 9 2025 22:28 utc | 110 If there are wider agreements for how to continue after Phase 1 (the above), or written guarantees on assuring no return to hostility, they do not seem to have been published. Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 22:29 utc | 111 RE: Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 22:24 utc | 106 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2025 22:36 utc | 112
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 19:47 utc | 85 Posted by: Sticker | Oct 9 2025 22:37 utc | 113 Sohaib Masalmeh Channel “According to information, the ceasefire begins at 2:00 a.m. and the army will withdraw for [over] 24 hours.” Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 22:37 utc | 114 @111 Ornot Meaning ceasefire starts at top of the hour. Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 22:42 utc | 115 “Agence France-Presse (AFP): The Nobel Prize Committee has excluded Trump from the list of candidates for the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize’ Al-Aqsa Palestine Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 22:48 utc | 116
Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 23:24 utc | 119 Mahmoud Fanana “When I heard the cheering, whistling and clapping in joy at the news, I stood wondering… how thirsty we are for joy that we have begun to embrace any news as if it were a holiday, and to welcome any glimmer of hope as if it were salvation!!” Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 23:24 utc | 120 It appears that the entire point of the Palestine peace process is for Donald Trump to receive a Nobel Peace prize, Jared Kushner his Zionist son-in-in-law to make a fortune out of real estate deals on top of the bodies of massacred children, and Tony Blaire to be given another chance to suck money off the public and gain establishment kudos while stuffing something else up in the Middle East. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 9 2025 23:30 utc | 121 Some shelling still being reported, ‘isolated incidence’ or skirmishes with resistance (i.e. anything that is taken to threaten during withdrawal) possibly… Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 23:34 utc | 122
Agreed Exile, thanks Michealj72 Posted by: Forest | Oct 9 2025 23:37 utc | 123 It’s good to remain skeptical given the track record of israel/netanyahu/trump/witkoff et al. in focking over anyone that makes any agreement with the Western powers or their proxies/allies Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 23:48 utc | 124 From Reuters
Does suspend hostilities in Gaza include the restoration of aid provision? Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 9 2025 23:48 utc | 125 Reuters is also reporting boots on the ground Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 9 2025 23:49 utc | 126 Reality is like a dough that can be molded in a thousand ways, but it will always remain flour, water, and salt. Us sending 200 troops to IZ as peacekeepers Posted by: Sticker | Oct 10 2025 0:26 utc | 128 Addendum to my #125: Posted by: Sticker | Oct 10 2025 0:30 utc | 129 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 0:40 utc | 130 Well then! I would say that the next week in Occupied Palestine should prove to be historical, regardless of how reality plays out. Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2025 0:52 utc | 131 I am now watching the Judge and Col. Wilkerson who is saying that war with Iran is coming soon. Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2025 1:00 utc | 132 So before the war started there was +\- 2 million in Palestine. We know at least 60K or so were killed with the unkunks possibly up to 400K or so. That is roughly 25%. After being starved all this time the current generation of young ones there will have stunted development and a huge portion of the women will no longer be able to procreate. Posted by: Archetypex | Oct 10 2025 1:01 utc | 133 Mahmoud Fanana
Jesus, get a clue. This is insane talk by a nutter not connected to reality. I have been observing the Israel -Palestine situation all of my life and I am now past 70. I have seen countless efforts to broker peace given all sorts of names like “Road Map To Peace”; “Two State Solution”; etc etc., but I have never thought any of these distraction processes were genuine. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 1:25 utc | 136 RE: Posted by: JB | Oct 9 2025 20:40 utc | 95 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 10 2025 1:28 utc | 137 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 1:34 utc | 138 RE: Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 1:34 utc | 135 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 10 2025 1:43 utc | 139 I see we have the usual slandering of Lavrov without having read what he said. The official transcript of his interview with RT is available in full in Russian and is almost completed in English–the Palestinian portion is however.
The problem here is that you’re conversing with Ahenobarbus, who seeks to hide his repugnant fascist tendencies with a coat of Marxism. Ahenobarbus’s duplicity serves the dual purpose of discrediting Marxism as well.
By purposefully conflating the Western proletariat as belonging to the same class as the Global South proletariat, fake “communists” like Ahenobarbus seek to sow confusion and bring about fascism to help capitalists in the imperial core to temporarily resolve the contradictions of capitalism, much like how Hitler latched onto the masses’ instinctive support for socialism by introducing the term “national socialism” to shepherd them into fascism.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Oct 10 2025 2:00 utc | 141 RE: Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 10 2025 2:01 utc | 142 It’s rather telling that the first instinct of Americans, wannabe or otherwise, is to opportunistically use the Palestinian genocide as a jumping off point to promote Taiwan separatism or to provide cover for Japanese WW2 atrocities. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Oct 10 2025 2:21 utc | 143 RE: Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 10 2025 1:54 utc | 137 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 10 2025 2:21 utc | 144 Posted by: All Under Heaven | Oct 10 2025 2:00 utc | 138 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2025 2:32 utc | 145 RE: Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 10 2025 1:54 utc | 137 I went to you ME English link. Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 10 2025 2:36 utc | 146 Putin Conveys Israeli ‘Disinterest’ in War as Iran-Russia Strategic Accord Enters Force Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 2:40 utc | 147 ‘The root cause of the Palestinian genocide is that the World Anti-Fascist War was not fought to it proper conclusion with the dissolution of the United States of America and the de-Nazi-fication of little fascists like MoA posters JB, Dan Kelly and Arch Bungle.’ Maybe we’re all in cahoots. Geez, I’m just a ‘little’ fascist? Is there even such a thing? Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 10 2025 2:44 utc | 148 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 10 2025 2:01 utc | 139 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 2:45 utc | 149 Every day that the Zionist West is involved in West Asia without success is a victory of sorts. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2025 2:47 utc | 150 “USReal is the “cause” of the root problem of extremism … nothing else.” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 2:53 utc | 152 This is a truly awesome discussion, Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes yesterday. It’s very long, and I know that most don’t have the needed attention spans to listen to stuff like this, but it should be made available to the MoA community anyway…. Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 2:59 utc | 153 “Children are born and then go to school, where they are taught that they ….” Blah blah and lies.” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 3:03 utc | 154 That Dave Smith/Nick Fuentes discussion posted above already has a million views after one day. That’s just on YouTube. Nick’s Rumble channel also has a shitload of views. I do sugeest watching it. Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 3:25 utc | 155 The Zionists aren’t the only zealots. If we’re looking for a factor to blame, first UK then US Imperialism is at fault and lies at the root of the problem. michaelj72 135 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 10 2025 3:49 utc | 157 154 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 10 2025 4:01 utc | 158 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 4:05 utc | 159
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 4:07 utc | 160 Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 10 2025 3:29 utc | 153 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 4:12 utc | 161 I see it all across the internet by intellectuals: punch down on bubba. Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 4:19 utc | 162 Punching down is alot easier and is less risky than punching up. Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 4:22 utc | 163 Genocide is a relatively recent term, but there are many examples that could be considered genocides in the past and they are often for different reasons. Imperialism and control of other ethnic groups are perhaps better descriptors than some other motivating factors like zealotry. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 4:24 utc | 164 Everyone in America thinks WWII was fought ONLY to save the Jews. It’s all about Jews in the minds of Americans. See the many museums. But Americans have never been told that Nazis considered slavic peoples to be untermenchen subject to genocide. Nope, it’s only about Jews. Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 4:37 utc | 165 Zero people in the US or Europe are ever informed of Nazi Germany’s race-hate against Slavic people. Nope. The only “hate” they ever hear about is hate against Jews. Reminder that 27 million Russians dies in WWII defeating Nazi Germany. That massive loss of life is never even considered as a “holocaust”. In US media, doesn’t matter. Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 4:48 utc | 166 None of what I am about to say justifies what we do in genocide, but as humans we have a track record of often trying to destroy entire species of other animals if we don’t like them because they are dangerous to us, or they conflict with our interests. Go to Europe and see how many bears walk around in the forests these days for example = approximately zero in many areas. Same for other animals in the world that we seen as dangers to our species like lions, tigers, snakes, sharks, crocodiles etc. etc. We’ve been trying to wipe out some insect species for centuries for health, comfort, and agricultural reasons, same as mammals we call pests like rats and mice. Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 4:48 utc | 167 ‘Not anyone like, oh I don’t know, like maybe Victoria Nuland, Antony Blinken, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, the New York Times editorial staff, yada yada. Nope, punch down at the bubba!’ The punching down is rampant here. Also, putting the generic ‘UKUS imperialism’ before Zionism itself and not mentioning that the countries themselves are thoroughly Zionized is not exactly rigorous scholarship, to say the least. Further, there is no hint at all that Russia itself may be Zionized because that would then force one to consider its ties to Russian malfeasance and it is proven endlessly here that it is utterly impossible for Russian propagandists to even consider that such a thing as Russian malfeasance exists to any serious degree. — Speaking of punching down on the US populace ‘Judge Nap’ and Colonel Wilkerson just did so at the end of their otherwise informative most recent conversation. The fact that most Russians know Engish but most Americans don’t know Russian was something the pair shared a rather hearty laugh over. Let’s all pause to remember that Wilkerson is lucky he’s not before a firing squad for all the wanton warmaking and destruction he’s been involved with in his illustrious government military career. And Andrew Napolitano certainly wouldn’t have settled with his two accusers if he weren’t guilty of sexually molesting both of them. Both these men ought to be very very careful about what they say given their own backgrounds. Most Americans outside the well-to-do have an economic boot on their throat and no time to learn Russian which isn’t taught in schools anyway. It was always Chinese we stupid Americans were supposed to learn, remember? We’ve been told that since around 1980. Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 10 2025 4:51 utc | 168 see the 1:22 video at the second link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 5:12 utc | 169
Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 5:15 utc | 170 Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 10 2025 4:51 utc | 165 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 5:21 utc | 171 Israeli Government Approves Gaza Ceasefire Agreement at 1 am Friday… Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 5:29 utc | 172 Above corrected: Ceasefire Now in Effect Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 5:32 utc | 173 Ceasefire Now in Effect Posted by: ThouShalt | Oct 10 2025 5:41 utc | 174 see the 38-second video at the first/second link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 6:12 utc | 175 Palestine is the front line of the Human liberation struggle. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2025 6:22 utc | 176 Killing 1100 civilians and taking an addition 125 civilian hostages is not resistance. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2025 6:29 utc | 177
Re: The Day After Posted by: Exile | Oct 10 2025 6:36 utc | 179 Ceasefire Settlement: Crushing Victory for the Resistance Posted by: Exile | Oct 10 2025 6:50 utc | 180
Posted by: Exile | Oct 10 2025 6:36 utc | 176 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 6:54 utc | 182
“Everyone knows General Patten on the war! lol ” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 7:03 utc | 184
have you guys got it all figured out for the rest of us slowpokes? lol.. Posted by: james | Oct 10 2025 7:08 utc | 186 have you guys got it all figured out for the rest of us slowpokes? lol.. Posted by: too scents | Oct 10 2025 7:19 utc | 187 mt take.. superficial peace agreement that will be gone and back to the same genocide soon enough.. zionism still fully entrenched and supported by the west, in particular the usa and germany.. money continues to call all of the shots and it favours the zionist freaks with the money.. democracy and the peoples thoughts here don’t enter into it.. they are cast aside.. the un continues to be useless thanks the veto power of the usa to always support israel, right and wrong.. Posted by: james | Oct 10 2025 7:23 utc | 188 “Jared Kushner… flew to Israel from negotiations in Sharm el-Sheikh.”… Posted by: susan mullen | Oct 10 2025 7:26 utc | 189 Israel won. They get their hostages back AND get to keep 53% of the Gaza strip as a security perimeter. The IDF will never withdraw from that area and it will become a defacto Area C, like the West Bank. Hamas is giving away all their cards (hostages), and once that happens Bibi will pound them into submission like Hezbollah in Lebanon. All with the blessing of Qatar, Egypt, and Turkey. Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Oct 10 2025 7:28 utc | 190 GeorgeWendell, Posted by: Exile | Oct 10 2025 7:44 utc | 191 I’d hate to see what a defeat looked like for Hamas/Gaza. Posted by: Exile | Oct 10 2025 7:47 utc | 192 Donald gets Nobel PP Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 7:49 utc | 193 Posted by: Exile | Oct 10 2025 7:44 utc | 192 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 10 2025 7:59 utc | 194 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2025 8:43 utc | 195 Israel has been able to do what it has been doing with impunity for scores of years. Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 10 2025 9:17 utc | 196 can human beings get beyond greed? everyone has to answer that for themselves too.. Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 10 2025 9:19 utc | 197 Who is going to make it happen though?George, Posted by: Exile | Oct 10 2025 9:33 utc | 199 Who is going to make it happen though? Posted by: too scents | Oct 10 2025 9:43 utc | 200 |
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