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October 5, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-232
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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RE: Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 0:03 utc | 297 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2025 0:37 utc | 301 Decent Timeline of LAST ceasefire and activities: A timeline of the fragile Gaza ceasefire Despite initial optimism a number of blocks and disputes have put the truce in doubt Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2025 0:42 utc | 302 I am a rabbid anti-Zionist. But …Is anyone here yet willing to concede that Hamas has suffered a political, strategic, operational, tactical, on-ground loss against the evil Israel? It takes only a child’s assessment to see that their bold Oct 7th 2024 incursion has failed in every possible way. Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 0:45 utc | 303 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 0:46 utc | 304 @302 Trubind1 That came to mind…I don’t know what they are up to this time… Without prisoners being held, “Israel” will have lost a main pretext for attacking Gaza. Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 0:56 utc | 305 RE: Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2025 1:18 utc | 306 RE: Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 0:45 utc | 304 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2025 1:25 utc | 307 Dear Iran, Yemen, Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 9 2025 1:26 utc | 308 Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 0:45 utc | 304 Posted by: Jules | Oct 9 2025 1:33 utc | 309 @ Get Real | Oct 9 2025 0:45 utc | 304 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2025 1:34 utc | 310 @307 Trubind That as well, but can they justify losing troops who aren’t ‘out to rescue compatriots’ ? The actual main point now appears to be ‘who rules Palestine’, i.e. whether the attempt to eliminate Hamas continues. Equally they need troops elsewhere, cannot secure backing needed for full take-over, have settled at claiming west-bank and dumping reparations on UN or Arabs…etc. Hydrocarbon deposits, Ukraine (…where is Russia in this ?) , a whole lot more…not possible to guess. Will post another reply to michaelj I didn’t post before, just adds more questions…. I don’t know. Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 1:37 utc | 311 see the three short videos at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 1:39 utc | 312 @281 michaelj Europe (basically courtesy EU) is bad enough with regard to spending on unproductive features, with gov. spending to gdp a few notches higher than the US also. How USians accept funding “Israel” to such a degree for such destructive endeavour just defies me though. Come legal reparations and you know where the money would come from also… short of being handed Gaza in return i.e. current plan and Arab states, or straight annexation. These people are all on the hook, meaning their negotiation is not driven by traditional politics so much as loss of standing and financial failure. So actions due to those incentives are very unpredictable. UN reconstruction project also just asked for 52 bn to make Gaza habitable again…which US/”Israel” I guess would not pay until dragged before court by r.o.w. which is not on any near horizon: But it could be found presented with the bill. All of this sets the stage or is backdrop to future rearrangement of balance of power in the world, the result of which is not a given either. Looking at the EU funding going on 1 tr in arms makes under 100 bn total look small however, similar US military spending…it is hard to gain a normal perspective on these realities, but that populations don’t bother to equate these levels of spending to their own circumstance says something very important… apathy, disempowerment, futility, submission, stupidity, greed…not really sure, but there is such a major disconnect at so many levels that people should be getting just a little nervous about it all… few seem to though…maybe just too busy staying out of the way to bother more… Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 1:48 utc | 313 Mahmood OD: Gaza Ceasefire Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 9 2025 1:49 utc | 314 RE: Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 1:37 utc | 312 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2025 1:49 utc | 315 @316 Trubind Sohaib Masalmeh Channel “By concluding a ceasefire agreement, Israel did not achieve any of its declared objectives through military operations other than killing and destruction.” Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2025 1:58 utc | 316 In my opinion, and according to the players on both sides of the battlefield, two major objectives can be identified:On the one hand, beyond the usurpations and plunder, the sadism and lies, one side fervently desired that everyone, absolutely everyone on the other side, die as slaves.On the other hand, regardless of age or gender, the unwavering desire was to live freely in their own land (something they have not been allowed to do for many, many years) or, failing that, to die free, either fighting or resisting, to the point of starvation, the immense broom that sought to sweep them into nothingness, into oblivion, into the non-place of a fabricated and falsified history.For every person who remains alive, in their territory, even if they die today, victory is infinite and eternal, and happiness accompanies the unspeakable horror of tragedy. Hamas Announces Reaching Deal Based on Trump’s Proposal Aimed At Ending US-Backed Israeli Genocide Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 9 2025 2:26 utc | 318 If you’re not a Hasbara… then you’re daft. State of Palestine will be established, it is guaranteed. Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 2:45 utc | 319 Respite welcome for the suffering people of Gaza. The silence of the night … Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 9 2025 3:02 utc | 320 “By concluding a ceasefire agreement, Israel did not achieve any of its declared objectives through military operations other than killing and destruction.” Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 3:03 utc | 321 On Carney after Gaza Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 9 2025 3:21 utc | 322 Get Real passim Posted by: Giyane | Oct 9 2025 3:54 utc | 323 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 4:00 utc | 324 Get Real Posted by: Giyane | Oct 9 2025 4:11 utc | 325 Just a few more on the JCIT and the origins of the worldwide ‘war on terror’ and its apparati and appendages: Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 9 2025 4:18 utc | 326 Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 2:45 utc | 320 Posted by: Jules | Oct 9 2025 4:19 utc | 327 Ornot Posted by: Tom | Oct 9 2025 4:24 utc | 328
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 9 2025 3:54 utc | 324 Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 5:20 utc | 330 Posted by: Jules | Oct 9 2025 4:19 utc | 328 Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 5:38 utc | 331 It’s absurd to pretend it’s the natives’ fault for defending their homeland from occupation, or somehow it could’ve been avoided if they simply did not resist. Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 5:49 utc | 332 “Dear Iran, Yemen, … Please undertake… Posted by: Dalit | Oct 9 2025 6:29 utc | 333 see the 44-second video at the first link. These are some of the psychopaths and sociopathic extremist freaks who will some day soon flee or be sent packing back to where they or their ancestors came from – the USA , Russia, the EU, Canada, the UK, etc etc Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 6:47 utc | 334 repost: Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2025 6:48 utc | 335 Jews!!! Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 9 2025 6:48 utc | 336 Re: what has Al-Qassem et.al. achieved ? Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2025 6:52 utc | 337 Posted by: dodger | Oct 9 2025 4:52 utc | 331 Posted by: Jules | Oct 9 2025 7:05 utc | 338 Posted by: Get Real | Oct 9 2025 5:49 utc | 334 Posted by: Jules | Oct 9 2025 7:07 utc | 339 The Likud has destroyed Israel….. Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2025 7:17 utc | 340 Re: 1000 Israelis killed on 7.October? Posted by: exile | Oct 9 2025 7:53 utc | 341 338 Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 9 2025 8:19 utc | 342
Posted by: dodger | Oct 9 2025 8:53 utc | 343 see the 2:13 video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 8:54 utc | 344 Must read:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/palestine-any-peace-plan-must-respect-international-law-beginning-self Posted by: JB | Oct 9 2025 9:11 utc | 345 getting close now can you feel it yes sir a new blair piss Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 9 2025 9:24 utc | 346 Must read:
Posted by: JB | Oct 9 2025 9:35 utc | 347
Posted by: xor | Oct 9 2025 9:37 utc | 348 Get ready for yet unseen Trump triumphalism, Western accolades and self- praise with cheers by the rest of the this thoroughly rotten world. A revision of history will start right before our eyes, a revision by the entire “international community”. Posted by: JB | Oct 9 2025 10:00 utc | 349 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 10:24 utc | 350 I read the language of the first phase ceasefire agreement in keeping with the language of the Peking Declaration. Posted by: exile | Oct 9 2025 10:44 utc | 351 🔹@enemywatch Posted by: JB | Oct 9 2025 10:48 utc | 352 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2025 10:58 utc | 353 michaelj72, Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2025 11:28 utc | 354 The colonialist/imperialist criminals and their Arab clients are continuing with their intentions inaugurated in the “Trump plan”. Rubio is supposed to attend. It is THEY who will decide and be in charge of everything “the day after”, not the Palestinians. France to host Arab, Europen foreign ministers to discuss Gaza’s “day after” Peacekeeping troops, a legal framework and a no-longer-dangerous Hamas are all necessary in the future as part of a plan for the Gaza Strip and will be discussed among international partners in Paris, says German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul.
Posted by: JB | Oct 9 2025 11:37 utc | 355 They die every day:
That’s the real reason for this so called ‘ceasefire deal’. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2025 11:54 utc | 356 Rinse and repeat Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2025 11:56 utc | 357 They die every day:
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2025 12:08 utc | 358 tory blairs favorite song was gaydar anthem things can only get better and look goyim. Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 9 2025 12:09 utc | 359 Hamas leader Mahmoud Mardawi:It appears that Netanyahu is trying to undermine the ceasefire agreement even before its implementation, by retracting the prisoner lists in an attempt to sabotage the understandings. This move reveals his intentions regarding other critical issues, including withdrawal, reconstruction, and the reopening of crossings.🔹@enemywatch Posted by: JB | Oct 9 2025 12:19 utc | 360 As predicted:
Those who betray their own to the occupier will be crushed by both sides in the end. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2025 12:44 utc | 361 Below post found here : JungianINTP Alexandra, Posted by: JungianINTP | Oct 18 2025 19:58 utc | 362 |
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